But Is It on Netflix? - Streaming Video Service Thread: Hulu, Amazon Prime, Apple TV+, Disney+, Peacock, YouTube TV, AT+T Watch, Philo, Playstation Vue, HBO Max, HBO Now, Facebook Live and many more

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A thread to discuss the ongoing balkanization of streaming, cord-cutting, new options, lament and laud the coming and going of new competitors and so on.

Sound off with your obsessive subscriptions!

I'm using Netflix, Hulu, Amazon, Mubi, Criterion, HBO Max, Showtime; might very well find myself doing Apple+ if I upgrade my phone/ipad at some point but can't imagine getting Disney.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 15:29 (two weeks ago) link

thanking u for having a long enough subcription list to make my own look reasonable

mh, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 15:30 (two weeks ago) link

subscription, yikes

mh, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 15:31 (two weeks ago) link

Here's the projected pile of noteworthy streaming channels purported to have unique programming to choose from in 2020... surely this will need to contract at some point in the near future?

Netflix
Hulu
Amazon Prime
Apple TV+
Disney+
NBC Peacock
YouTube TV
AT+T Watch
HBO Max
HBO Now
Showtime
Starz
Facebook Live
CBS Interactive
Discovery/BBC
Criterion
Mubi
Shudder
Acorn
Crunchyroll
DC Universe
Kanopy
AMC Premiere
Pluto

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 15:35 (two weeks ago) link

I have netflix. That is all.

Yerac, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 15:36 (two weeks ago) link

Plus a space to talk about delivery services! Roku, Playstation Vue and the like.

Give thanks and praise to PLEX, which is free, has virtually no ads and mostly just magically works.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 15:38 (two weeks ago) link

We use a Roku and currently pay for Netflix, Amazon Prime, Hulu and we have HBO Go since we currently have it in our cable package. We've been considering ditching cable completely, but when we talk to our provider (Xfinity) they want so much $$ for our internet service alone without a bundle that it still doesn't make sense. Since my wife works from home as a consultant and does a lot of video editing, we need a dependable connection. They really still push the bundles so dropping the cable alone doesn't seem to be the cost savings we hope for.

I know for sure we'll add Disney+ and I'm pushing for the Criterion one too, unsuccessfully thus far.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 15:46 (two weeks ago) link

I am curious, how much of a difference is it just for internet, vs internet+cable where you are?

Yerac, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 15:49 (two weeks ago) link

i cord cut earlier this year with the Hulu/No Ads cable package and i have not missed cable at all. I think it's $60 for that package and another $65 for high speed internet.
Supplementing occasionally with tt0rre3ntz helps keep FOMO at bay.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 15:50 (two weeks ago) link

I have Hulu and Amazon Prime. I had a Showtime add-on through Hulu while Billions was airing, but dropped it after that; I had HBO for a while through Amazon to watch Insecure and Big Little Lies, but dropped that too.

If a show is on a particular streaming platform, it'll often be available for rent/purchase through Amazon, so if it looks really good I'll do that sometimes. I barely ever watch movies anymore - maybe one a month, so none of the movie-oriented services are at all appealing. And since there are no kids in my house, I don't have to worry about Disney, Marvel, etc.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 15:51 (two weeks ago) link

xp I'd be curious to hear more about Plex's video features, I have a server installed but only use it for music.

Currently we've got Netflix, Amazon Prime, and Shudder ... at some point I want to shut down my Uverse TV service and switch to Hulu or YouTube or some other way to stream live sports and Turner Classic Movies.

Brad C., Wednesday, 2 October 2019 15:51 (two weeks ago) link

I'm not sure offhand, my wife is the biggest push for cutting the cord in our house and she's been the one talking to them directly. Iirc, we pay around $140 for both right now, but I think she said they'd still want nearly $100 for just internet.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 15:52 (two weeks ago) link

i pay for netflix (though i should really stop, i watch almost nothing on it), hulu (through spotify which is practically like not paying for it), shudder (the greatest), and criterion. i've never had cable as an adult

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 15:52 (two weeks ago) link

Hulu's live TV option is ridiculously expensive, to me.

I should add that I also have a digital antenna that pulls in network TV and some other channels like ION (lots of cop-show reruns) and Grit (old Western shows).

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 15:53 (two weeks ago) link

yeah, I haven't had cable for a very, very long time (15 years?) and I was wondering how much of a difference it is these days to not have them bundled.

Yerac, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 15:53 (two weeks ago) link

I recently saw a meme about how all these subscription services with unique programming is basically reinventing into a more tedious cable tv.

Yerac, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 15:55 (two weeks ago) link

Yep. Thanks capitalism for taking an legitimately game-changing technology and just turning it back into the old overpriced thing we all hated 20 years ago.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 16:04 (two weeks ago) link

Remember back in the 1990s when they kept promising truly ala carte cable packages? "Only pay for the channels you actually watch!". Well it's here now, finally, except you have to pay $9.99 to $12.99 for each of the channels.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 16:05 (two weeks ago) link

2019 US pricing chart for now and future reference:

Netflix (standard plan, 2 HD screens) - $13 monthly
Hulu - $6 a month
Hulu/No Ads - $12 a month
Hulu/No Ads/Cable/enhanced cloud DVR - $61 a month <- recommend this for cord cutters as it is pretty solid for sports
Amazon Prime - $13 a month, $120 a year; comes with amazon's other stuff
Apple TV+ - $5 a month; free with purchase of new apple hardware
Disney+ - $7 a month or $70 a year; pre-order starts today
NBC Peacock - As yet unannounced
YouTube TV - $50 a month cable package
YouTube Premium - $12 a month
AT+T Watch - $15 a month cable package, free if you're on their network
HBO Max -Currently reported at $15 a month, presumably will offer a package deal with HBO Now
HBO Now - $15 a month
Showtime - $11 a month
Starz - $9 a month
Facebook Watch - Free at the moment
CBS Interactive - $6 a month
Discovery/BBC - As yet unanounced
Criterion - $11 per month, $99 per year
Mubi - $11 pre month
Fandor - $10 per month, $99 per year
Shudder - $5 per month, $48 per year
Acorn - $6 per month, $60 per year
Crunchyroll - Free option or $7 per moth with hi-def and better programming
DC Universe - $8 a month or $75 per year
AMC Premiere - $5 a month
Pluto - Currently Free
Crackle - Currently Free
Kanopy - Currently Free

On the sports tip:
NFL Sunday Ticket is $74 a month or $294 a year
NBA League Pass is $120 a year for one team or $200 to $250 a year for all teams
NHL Season Pass is $140 a year
MLB Season pass is $25 a month via Amazon, $90 a year for one team or $120 for all teams

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 16:13 (two weeks ago) link

We currently pay for Netflix (incl. dvds!), get Hulu through a friend's account, and HBO Go through a family account that was supposedly canceled but still magically works! All through PS4. Have never rented/bought a digital show or movie a la carte.

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 16:14 (two weeks ago) link

if you were to buy all the above with hulu as a basic cable delivery option, that plus hi-speed internet would run you around $275 a month for television.

I highly recommend just downloading PLEX as it's free. Basically, if you have any kind of smart tv option, you can stream whatever you download directly to your television.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 16:28 (two weeks ago) link

That netflix standard plan for me is $8usd a month but it's another country's pay structure I guess.

Yerac, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 16:37 (two weeks ago) link

yeah there's a "standard definition" single screen plan for $8

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 16:37 (two weeks ago) link

No, this is for 2 screens HD.

Yerac, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 16:39 (two weeks ago) link

I just looked up the basic one screen it's about 6.50 USD.

Yerac, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 16:41 (two weeks ago) link

torrent everything, $0

van dyke parks generator (anagram), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 16:41 (two weeks ago) link

a given.

Yerac, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 16:44 (two weeks ago) link

well ya gotta pay for internet and hard drives! plus not everybody is ethically down with / has the technical expertise / willingness to take the time to learn how to join better groups / etc

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 16:44 (two weeks ago) link

although do people really torrent tv shows and movies that much anymore when you can find a free stream of almost anything?

Yerac, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 16:46 (two weeks ago) link

for me it's most helpful when the tv show in question just isn't commercially available in my region

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 16:46 (two weeks ago) link

Worth noting that YouTube Premium also includes YouTube Music (and formerly Google Play Music).

Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 16:54 (two weeks ago) link

a recent streaming experience with hulu, trying to start an episode in the middle:

click episode, cannot seek to middle, 90 seconds of commercials
seek to middle, 90 seconds of commercials
accidentally clicked on another episode while trying to close the app on my fone, 90 seconds of commercials starts
click original episode again, 90 seconds of commercials
close hulu, torrent entire season of show, cancel hulu

diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 16:58 (two weeks ago) link

i won't front: all video streaming services are flawed in a dozen ways that piracy frankly is not.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 17:01 (two weeks ago) link

My friends who are subletting my place have like 6 subscriptions and when I stay there I have to leave the room when they are trying to find something to watch (which always ends up taking a minimum of 20 minutes). A lot of the user interfaces are completely horrid.

Yerac, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 17:04 (two weeks ago) link

wish the cinema was cheaper

imago, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 17:05 (two weeks ago) link

xp -- ha - i have netflix, amazon, hbo (through amazon), britbox, acorn (which i should cancel because it's pretty much the same as britbox -- i had acorn first), and MhZ --

omg the user interfaces -- yeah some are really bad -- some are not awful, but are crap when it comes to subtitle options

i watch stuff via roku -- my roku is about 6 yrs old at this point and seems to be "dying" -- is this just standard planned obsolescence?

sarahell, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 17:11 (two weeks ago) link

among the most frustrating things is that depending on your device, the interface and remote controls are totally different! You can't even play Criterion on an Amazon Fire and you can't play Mubi on a Playstation. Prime is easy to explore on a Fire but nearly impossible on a Roku. Everything's fucked!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 17:15 (two weeks ago) link

I do Netflix and will do Disney+. More often than not, if I want to see a movie badly enough I buy a physical copy or, if that isn't an option, just watch that shit on YouTube or whatever. I watched a shitty, washed-out '30s movie on Internet Archive this weekend because it appears to have never been released via any legit home video format. Does that count as a streaming service?

Furter-Bursting Tater Squirter (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 17:28 (two weeks ago) link

youtube and archive.org certainly remain the people's netflix if netflix isn't already the people's netflix

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 17:32 (two weeks ago) link

I still pay for cable (and the Criterion Channel) but need to talk to people who get TCM through other services.

Anne Hedonia (j.lu), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 19:54 (two weeks ago) link

i'm dumping cable as soon as we get fiber internet installed at the end of the month, and signed up for Hulu Live. This looks like it'll save me about $80 a month for basically the same channels and faster internet than the shitty Comcast service I have. Still have netflix, amazon prime, and hbo through hulu. I'll pick up disney as well.

akm, Thursday, 3 October 2019 01:45 (two weeks ago) link

oh yeah, and we use the latest generation Apple TVs. I had a Roku that was a few years old and yes, it crapped out. The apps developed by the providers become too resource intensive for the devices.

akm, Thursday, 3 October 2019 01:46 (two weeks ago) link

"That netflix standard plan for me is $8usd a month but it's another country's pay structure I guess." how is this possible?

akm, Thursday, 3 October 2019 02:01 (two weeks ago) link

i use vrv sometimes for anime and amazon until my last ill-advised prime resub runs out next year, and that's it.

ciderpress, Thursday, 3 October 2019 02:12 (two weeks ago) link

Moving to the Los Angeles area with its video stores and cinemas means not having to really care about any of this shit and it rocks.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 3 October 2019 02:16 (two weeks ago) link

We cut the cable 2-3 years ago and had Vue for about a year until a price hike, then Sling. The current fight between Fox and Dish/Sling has cramped my baseball watching, so I'm going to drop all channel-package delivery in the next few weeks and not worry about it until the next season of Better Call Saul starts. Dropping Sling and not renewing MLB.tv next season will free up more than enough $$ for Disney, which my wife wants to get. Otherwise, we have Netflix, Hulu, Amazon, CBS (for my wife) and Criterion (for me). Our donation to our PBS affiliate is just big enough to give us access to everything on the PBS channel.

When Filmstruck shut down, Fandor offered subscribers a special deal -- I think it was $25 for a year? Anyway, I got that but probably won't renew it.

WmC, Thursday, 3 October 2019 02:20 (two weeks ago) link

Netflix & Prime, but in Australia we can also access iView and SBS On Demand, which are half-decent public broadcaster options.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Thursday, 3 October 2019 06:21 (two weeks ago) link

I signed up for Youtube TV so I could talk my mom into ditching her cable bill (you can share accounts with 2-3 people) and it's been the best cable replacement I've experienced. No buffering, standard TV Guide style menu, good enough channel selection. I'm so used to going straight to Netflix or Prime I rarely think of opening the app unless I want to watch sports, though.

Netflix and mlb.tv are free w/ my cell phone, I keep forgetting to cancel HBO Now, keep Prime out of habit, pay for the Criterion Channel so I can feel guilty when I'm too numb at the end of the day to watch something with subtitles and just turn on a CW sci-fi show on Netflix instead.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Thursday, 3 October 2019 07:04 (two weeks ago) link

I have Netflix, Hulu, Amazon Prime. I watch all of these via roku as well as a fair amount of free YouTube and Twitch. I also use roku to play music via Spotify, as the TV plugs straight into my stereo.

The quality of film selections on Netflix seems to have really plummeted lately. Amazon has the best selections of those three.

I'm strongly considering Disney+ because I'm a sucker and want to watch the Star Wars shows.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 3 October 2019 11:36 (two weeks ago) link

akm xpost. I set up my netflix in Chile so the fees are 4,990; 5,990; and 8,990clp for the 3 tiers. There is currency fluctuation of course but it's been in the $8 range at least for the last year (I just checked) regardless if I am using it in the US or Europe.

Yerac, Thursday, 3 October 2019 12:25 (two weeks ago) link

going to have to tidy up my library if we do that

mh, Wednesday, 9 October 2019 00:52 (one week ago) link

i would maybe like to have this conversation. 77 perhaps?

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 00:53 (one week ago) link

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/apple-launches-house-studio-band-brothers-pacific-follow-up-1246746

Apple is ready for takeoff. The tech giant has handed out a nine-episode order for Masters of the Air, the follow-up drama to HBO's limited series Band of Brothers and The Pacific. Additionally, Apple is officially launching its own internal studio, making the series the first that it will own in-house. Apple's Worldwide Video heads Zack Van Amburg and Jamie Erlicht will also oversee the unnamed studio in a move that brings them back to their roots as head of Sony Pictures TV.

Sources say HBO released the series — focused on historian Donald L. Miller's nonfiction book Masters of the Air: America’s Bomber Boys Who Fought the Air War Against Nazi Germany — ages ago and before WarnerMedia became its new corporate parent. The decision, sources say, was based on the price tag for the series, which is said to clock in at an estimated $250 million

Number None, Saturday, 12 October 2019 01:38 (one week ago) link

Scrolled through the gigantic twitter thread of all the content Disney + is going to have. So much shite, it's kinda unbelievable. And correct me if I'm wrong, but the only new exclusives ready for launch will be a Lady and the Tramp remake and the Star Wars show The Mandalorian, right?

I'd probably pay a monthly fee just for Frozen if I had kids, have to be cheaper than a babysitter, but I'm surprised at how bad it seemed. I mean, it has Star Wars and Marvel, it has popular 'adult' stuff, but hasn't everyone already seen those? It seemed really sparse apart from that.

Frederik B, Monday, 14 October 2019 17:41 (six days ago) link

p sure this is mostly aimed at parents

weird ilx but sb (Doctor Casino), Monday, 14 October 2019 17:44 (six days ago) link

esp w/ all the old TV shows. price of this plus another streaming service for grownups is wayyyyy cheaper than getting cable just to have nickelodeon and/or the disney channel, in terms of things the kids might beg and scream for.

weird ilx but sb (Doctor Casino), Monday, 14 October 2019 17:47 (six days ago) link

Yeah. it's probably a bargain for parents, really. Also, once I got to the early nineties I got so many Proustian flashbacks. So many films I remember from ads in the Donald Duck magazine.

Frederik B, Monday, 14 October 2019 18:05 (six days ago) link

Everyone has seen all the Star Wars and Marvel movies but people also watch that shit over and over and over.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Monday, 14 October 2019 21:44 (six days ago) link

the latter part is more accurate than the first

now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Monday, 14 October 2019 21:54 (six days ago) link

XP ^^Yeah, and as new viewers come along it'll be handy to have all of it in one place in the post-physical media world.

I saw somewhere that Adult Swim's syndication deal for Bob's Burgers is ending soon so Disney can have the exclusive on it, and maybe all the MacFarlane shows too. Simpsons I believe has already been announced to be part of the service.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 14 October 2019 21:58 (six days ago) link

adults who watch the same movie 10 times are like an alien species to me

ciderpress, Monday, 14 October 2019 22:02 (six days ago) link

You can watch all Star Wars and Marvel movies 10 times, and that's still just half a year of movie watching. Then what do you do? I just have to say, scrolling through all of it, it looked a lot less impressive than I'd thought.

Frederik B, Monday, 14 October 2019 22:17 (six days ago) link

30 Seasons of The Simpsons. (Only maybe 1/3rd of which is watchable, but still...)

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 14 October 2019 22:44 (six days ago) link

Watch one Marvel/SW movie a week and you've covered half the year. Not a ton of people who are going to have D+ as their only streaming service.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Monday, 14 October 2019 22:48 (six days ago) link

Also don't underestimate millennial nostalgia for not just Disney animation, but also live action stuff like Blank Check, Mighty Ducks, and the Lohan movies--not to mention all those Disney TV shows.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 14 October 2019 23:15 (six days ago) link

If a family member signs up I will 100% borrow their login to watch Darkwing Duck & Duck Tales.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Monday, 14 October 2019 23:16 (six days ago) link

Those shows were such a big part of my childhood! Just seeing them on the twitter thread made me flash back to being six years old and watching tv friday night after soccer practice. But I made it through four episodes of the new version of Ducktails, and I kinda can't imagine going back to watch the old stuff. I'm not sure it works the same way 'Friends' does. I could very well be wrong.

Frederik B, Monday, 14 October 2019 23:23 (six days ago) link

In a few years this thread is going to be like when I asked what 'GPRS connectivity' was, in our old mobile phone thread

In the UK I have:

- Freeview HD (over-the-air broadcasting, comparable to basic cable, approx 50 channels, all the main ones) - £0
- iPlayer (BBC on-demand, comparable to Netflix but just for BBC content) - £0, no ads
- All4 (Channel 4) - £0, zillions of ads
- My5 (Channel 5) - £0, zillions of ads
- iTVPlayer (iTV) - £0, zillions of ads
- Plex

All thru the PS4.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 14 October 2019 23:59 (six days ago) link

Technically you need a tv licence for iplayer and freeview which would be £150 a year (I know people flout this, I would too in the days of “detection vans” but I get more paranoid the more snoopy and authoritarian-leaning everything is)

Speaking of, if we’re going on that direction it maybe couldn’t hurt to put every non-parent who’s psyched to get this Disney thing on some kind of watchlist

YouGov to see it (wins), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 06:12 (five days ago) link

ah wins yes that’s true! i pay the license fee. so about £12/month for all that.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 06:59 (five days ago) link

Same as Tracer (dumb TV w/Freeview, smart Blu-ray player w/apps, £13/month UK TV licence) plus:

NowTV (£8.99/mo for Entertainment Pass; got this summer '17 for Twin Peaks, had plans to watch all the Sky Atlantic/Arts content, never did... kept paying for nothing until Chernobyl; worse than that, they sent me a free HD dongle for the TV (laptop streaming is 1280x720) and it never turned up)
Netflix (£8.99/mo for two-screen HD)
Amazon Prime (£6.58/mo, paid yearly; hopelessly underused, aside from Mr Robot and the shopping benefits, until this year's ATP tennis coverage)
Curzon Home Cinema (on demand; haven't actually rented anything in months)

My 5yo Samsung box has scads of apps I've never opened, all of which would need subscriptions. I'm guessing this hardware just won't support some of the newer services, even if I wanted them.

I share the above logins with my ex, and I think she gets a bit more out of it.

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 09:36 (five days ago) link

disney + is going to have a ton of original content. yes, a lot of it is Marvel, but that's the draw for many.

akm, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 13:12 (five days ago) link

yeah i think for a lot of these kind of fans the calculation actually will be as simple as "less than $10 to watch The Mandalorian, sure" and then once that's done there'll be something else to keep them on.

weird ilx but sb (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 14:42 (five days ago) link

I think I can't rewatch a movie until at least 10 years pass. I also don't know how adult people do it.

Yerac, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 14:49 (five days ago) link

D+ will pay for itself if somehow the original Star Wars trilogy was the theatrical cuts, but I'm imagining we'd have heard that by now if it was to be the case.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 14:50 (five days ago) link

Re: The Mandalorian: That is probably true, that a lot of subscribers will be satisfied by that, but it's something I find really interesting. Because we've already seen a bunch of these kind of brand-extension tv shows, from 'Clone Wars' to the Defender-verse, and they haven't really been that succesful. It's a really big bet on what is an unknown strategy. If The Mandalorian turns out to be another Inhumans, what then? Tv shows go wrong all the time, they are really hard to make.

I'm not betting against Disney. I'm just saying I'm really interested in seeing how this shakes out.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 15:01 (five days ago) link

The Star Wars cartoons are pretty well received among fans and after an initial misstep on Disney’s part they seem to get what people want out of them now.

Well, two out of three of the cartoons, at least. The currently running one is aimed at younger viewers and I haven’t polled friends to see if their smaller kids are into it

mh, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 15:05 (five days ago) link

I'm not saying they're not succesful at all, but they aren't the phenomenon The Mandalorian kinda needs to be.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 15:08 (five days ago) link

it depends what it 'needs to be.' with a streaming service all you want is for people to not cancel their subscriptions, and hopefully buy Mandalorian DVDs, t-shirts, and toys down the line.

weird ilx but sb (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 15:09 (five days ago) link

That's an interesting facet of these services, the less you actually use it the more profitable it becomes. Creates some weird incentives.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 15:11 (five days ago) link

Why would anyone buy a dvd of a show that is available on streaming?

Frederik B, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 15:11 (five days ago) link

I don't think that's true, Moodles, from what I read it seems that streaming services depend on content content content to make you watch as much as possible, to again give them more and more information about your viewing habits, which they can then turn into content content content. What you are describing is kinda the old cable paradigm, where you really only needed one Mad Men to get viewers into pressuring cable companies into keeping your channel in the bundle

Frederik B, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 15:13 (five days ago) link

Is that really true though? If I pay every month and watch nothing, that's less bandwidth cost for them.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 15:15 (five days ago) link

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/08/business/media/hbo-att-merger.html

“We need hours a day,” Mr. Stankey said, referring to the time viewers spend watching HBO programs. “It’s not hours a week, and it’s not hours a month. We need hours a day. You are competing with devices that sit in people’s hands that capture their attention every 15 minutes.”
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Continuing the theme, he added: “I want more hours of engagement. Why are more hours of engagement important? Because you get more data and information about a customer that then allows you to do things like monetize through alternate models of advertising as well as subscriptions, which I think is very important to play in tomorrow’s world.”

Frederik B, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 15:20 (five days ago) link

gooble gobble one of us

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 15:21 (five days ago) link

Disney plus will be operating on a different model I assume. I mean I will probably have to subscribe because my son is nearly as old as I was the first time I saw Star Wars, and then the need for rewatching and the other Disney/Marvel content will keep us around. New stuff is a perk, but not really the selling point.

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 15:21 (five days ago) link

Why would anyone buy a dvd of a show that is available on streaming?

Extras, better picture quality, collectablity, viewable when internet is down.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 15:25 (five days ago) link

Also viewable when the service shutters, corporate conglomerations shift alliances, etc etc etc

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 15:30 (five days ago) link

there are still a bunch of people with horrible or metered internet bandwidth in the US

also, buying a series when it completes, especially if you’re planning on rewatching it over time, might be cheaper than paying for a streaming service for years

mh, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 16:34 (five days ago) link

Some shows, like The Office, Friends, Mad Men, and Sopranos are dirt cheap used too.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 16:37 (five days ago) link

corporations obviously hate the used disc market, but from a consumer standpoint it’s excellent

mh, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 16:38 (five days ago) link

I don't know why anyone would keep a continuous subscription to any of these, unless they were a parent using Disney to babysit. I have a list of all the Netflix shows that piqued my interest in the last 3 years, I think I could binge them all in 2 months.

Inherent Contempt (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 16:56 (five days ago) link

also i mean we're talking about star wars fans, can anyone be MORE relied upon to buy the thing just for the sake of gazing at it on the shelf next to the other matching things?

weird ilx but sb (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 19:05 (five days ago) link

Yeah, it's kind of like hearing the Dylan Bootleg Series people saying they're worried about how much longer physical media viability will last without considering folks willing to buy Dylan on CD are among the last sure things in the business.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 19:23 (five days ago) link

now picturing what the fancy metal box of the mandalorian would look like on my shelf

mh, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 00:52 (four days ago) link

Theres also just a lot of good shows that are not available on streaming and likely never will be

“Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 01:41 (four days ago) link

you'll get your metalorian soon enough no doubt

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 02:20 (four days ago) link

I don't know why anyone would keep a continuous subscription to any of these, unless they were a parent using Disney to babysit. I have a list of all the Netflix shows that piqued my interest in the last 3 years, I think I could binge them all in 2 months.

Try being a parent and thus never having any time to binge anything. One or two episodes every day or so is an achievement.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 02:38 (four days ago) link

^^ otm and so true. I mean, even the two seasons of Barry is taking us two weeks to get through in what little time we have left at the end of the day.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 13:47 (four days ago) link

My basic broadband package is *just* good enough to stream one thing in HD; if the kids upstairs are YouTubing or my gf is trying to watch something on her tablet, forget it. The collapse into pixel hell of sub-SD during movies is a pain; I'd rather it just sat there for five minutes after you hit PLAY and before the opening credits and just built up a solid buffer. Snack gathering time.

Michael Jones, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 15:16 (four days ago) link


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