But Is It on Netflix? - Streaming Video Service Thread: Hulu, Amazon Prime, Apple TV+, Disney+, Peacock, YouTube TV, AT+T Watch, Philo, Playstation Vue, HBO Max, HBO Now, Facebook Live and many more

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A thread to discuss the ongoing balkanization of streaming, cord-cutting, new options, lament and laud the coming and going of new competitors and so on.

Sound off with your obsessive subscriptions!

I'm using Netflix, Hulu, Amazon, Mubi, Criterion, HBO Max, Showtime; might very well find myself doing Apple+ if I upgrade my phone/ipad at some point but can't imagine getting Disney.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 15:29 (ten months ago) link

thanking u for having a long enough subcription list to make my own look reasonable

mh, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 15:30 (ten months ago) link

subscription, yikes

mh, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 15:31 (ten months ago) link

Here's the projected pile of noteworthy streaming channels purported to have unique programming to choose from in 2020... surely this will need to contract at some point in the near future?

Netflix
Hulu
Amazon Prime
Apple TV+
Disney+
NBC Peacock
YouTube TV
AT+T Watch
HBO Max
HBO Now
Showtime
Starz
Facebook Live
CBS Interactive
Discovery/BBC
Criterion
Mubi
Shudder
Acorn
Crunchyroll
DC Universe
Kanopy
AMC Premiere
Pluto

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 15:35 (ten months ago) link

I have netflix. That is all.

Yerac, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 15:36 (ten months ago) link

Plus a space to talk about delivery services! Roku, Playstation Vue and the like.

Give thanks and praise to PLEX, which is free, has virtually no ads and mostly just magically works.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 15:38 (ten months ago) link

We use a Roku and currently pay for Netflix, Amazon Prime, Hulu and we have HBO Go since we currently have it in our cable package. We've been considering ditching cable completely, but when we talk to our provider (Xfinity) they want so much $$ for our internet service alone without a bundle that it still doesn't make sense. Since my wife works from home as a consultant and does a lot of video editing, we need a dependable connection. They really still push the bundles so dropping the cable alone doesn't seem to be the cost savings we hope for.

I know for sure we'll add Disney+ and I'm pushing for the Criterion one too, unsuccessfully thus far.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 15:46 (ten months ago) link

I am curious, how much of a difference is it just for internet, vs internet+cable where you are?

Yerac, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 15:49 (ten months ago) link

i cord cut earlier this year with the Hulu/No Ads cable package and i have not missed cable at all. I think it's $60 for that package and another $65 for high speed internet.
Supplementing occasionally with tt0rre3ntz helps keep FOMO at bay.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 15:50 (ten months ago) link

I have Hulu and Amazon Prime. I had a Showtime add-on through Hulu while Billions was airing, but dropped it after that; I had HBO for a while through Amazon to watch Insecure and Big Little Lies, but dropped that too.

If a show is on a particular streaming platform, it'll often be available for rent/purchase through Amazon, so if it looks really good I'll do that sometimes. I barely ever watch movies anymore - maybe one a month, so none of the movie-oriented services are at all appealing. And since there are no kids in my house, I don't have to worry about Disney, Marvel, etc.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 15:51 (ten months ago) link

xp I'd be curious to hear more about Plex's video features, I have a server installed but only use it for music.

Currently we've got Netflix, Amazon Prime, and Shudder ... at some point I want to shut down my Uverse TV service and switch to Hulu or YouTube or some other way to stream live sports and Turner Classic Movies.

Brad C., Wednesday, 2 October 2019 15:51 (ten months ago) link

I'm not sure offhand, my wife is the biggest push for cutting the cord in our house and she's been the one talking to them directly. Iirc, we pay around $140 for both right now, but I think she said they'd still want nearly $100 for just internet.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 15:52 (ten months ago) link

i pay for netflix (though i should really stop, i watch almost nothing on it), hulu (through spotify which is practically like not paying for it), shudder (the greatest), and criterion. i've never had cable as an adult

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 15:52 (ten months ago) link

Hulu's live TV option is ridiculously expensive, to me.

I should add that I also have a digital antenna that pulls in network TV and some other channels like ION (lots of cop-show reruns) and Grit (old Western shows).

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 15:53 (ten months ago) link

yeah, I haven't had cable for a very, very long time (15 years?) and I was wondering how much of a difference it is these days to not have them bundled.

Yerac, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 15:53 (ten months ago) link

I recently saw a meme about how all these subscription services with unique programming is basically reinventing into a more tedious cable tv.

Yerac, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 15:55 (ten months ago) link

Yep. Thanks capitalism for taking an legitimately game-changing technology and just turning it back into the old overpriced thing we all hated 20 years ago.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 16:04 (ten months ago) link

Remember back in the 1990s when they kept promising truly ala carte cable packages? "Only pay for the channels you actually watch!". Well it's here now, finally, except you have to pay $9.99 to $12.99 for each of the channels.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 16:05 (ten months ago) link

2019 US pricing chart for now and future reference:

Netflix (standard plan, 2 HD screens) - $13 monthly
Hulu - $6 a month
Hulu/No Ads - $12 a month
Hulu/No Ads/Cable/enhanced cloud DVR - $61 a month <- recommend this for cord cutters as it is pretty solid for sports
Amazon Prime - $13 a month, $120 a year; comes with amazon's other stuff
Apple TV+ - $5 a month; free with purchase of new apple hardware
Disney+ - $7 a month or $70 a year; pre-order starts today
NBC Peacock - As yet unannounced
YouTube TV - $50 a month cable package
YouTube Premium - $12 a month
AT+T Watch - $15 a month cable package, free if you're on their network
HBO Max -Currently reported at $15 a month, presumably will offer a package deal with HBO Now
HBO Now - $15 a month
Showtime - $11 a month
Starz - $9 a month
Facebook Watch - Free at the moment
CBS Interactive - $6 a month
Discovery/BBC - As yet unanounced
Criterion - $11 per month, $99 per year
Mubi - $11 pre month
Fandor - $10 per month, $99 per year
Shudder - $5 per month, $48 per year
Acorn - $6 per month, $60 per year
Crunchyroll - Free option or $7 per moth with hi-def and better programming
DC Universe - $8 a month or $75 per year
AMC Premiere - $5 a month
Pluto - Currently Free
Crackle - Currently Free
Kanopy - Currently Free

On the sports tip:
NFL Sunday Ticket is $74 a month or $294 a year
NBA League Pass is $120 a year for one team or $200 to $250 a year for all teams
NHL Season Pass is $140 a year
MLB Season pass is $25 a month via Amazon, $90 a year for one team or $120 for all teams

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 16:13 (ten months ago) link

We currently pay for Netflix (incl. dvds!), get Hulu through a friend's account, and HBO Go through a family account that was supposedly canceled but still magically works! All through PS4. Have never rented/bought a digital show or movie a la carte.

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 16:14 (ten months ago) link

if you were to buy all the above with hulu as a basic cable delivery option, that plus hi-speed internet would run you around $275 a month for television.

I highly recommend just downloading PLEX as it's free. Basically, if you have any kind of smart tv option, you can stream whatever you download directly to your television.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 16:28 (ten months ago) link

That netflix standard plan for me is $8usd a month but it's another country's pay structure I guess.

Yerac, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 16:37 (ten months ago) link

yeah there's a "standard definition" single screen plan for $8

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 16:37 (ten months ago) link

No, this is for 2 screens HD.

Yerac, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 16:39 (ten months ago) link

I just looked up the basic one screen it's about 6.50 USD.

Yerac, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 16:41 (ten months ago) link

torrent everything, $0

van dyke parks generator (anagram), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 16:41 (ten months ago) link

a given.

Yerac, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 16:44 (ten months ago) link

well ya gotta pay for internet and hard drives! plus not everybody is ethically down with / has the technical expertise / willingness to take the time to learn how to join better groups / etc

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 16:44 (ten months ago) link

although do people really torrent tv shows and movies that much anymore when you can find a free stream of almost anything?

Yerac, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 16:46 (ten months ago) link

for me it's most helpful when the tv show in question just isn't commercially available in my region

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 16:46 (ten months ago) link

Worth noting that YouTube Premium also includes YouTube Music (and formerly Google Play Music).

Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 16:54 (ten months ago) link

a recent streaming experience with hulu, trying to start an episode in the middle:

click episode, cannot seek to middle, 90 seconds of commercials
seek to middle, 90 seconds of commercials
accidentally clicked on another episode while trying to close the app on my fone, 90 seconds of commercials starts
click original episode again, 90 seconds of commercials
close hulu, torrent entire season of show, cancel hulu

diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 16:58 (ten months ago) link

i won't front: all video streaming services are flawed in a dozen ways that piracy frankly is not.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 17:01 (ten months ago) link

My friends who are subletting my place have like 6 subscriptions and when I stay there I have to leave the room when they are trying to find something to watch (which always ends up taking a minimum of 20 minutes). A lot of the user interfaces are completely horrid.

Yerac, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 17:04 (ten months ago) link

wish the cinema was cheaper

imago, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 17:05 (ten months ago) link

xp -- ha - i have netflix, amazon, hbo (through amazon), britbox, acorn (which i should cancel because it's pretty much the same as britbox -- i had acorn first), and MhZ --

omg the user interfaces -- yeah some are really bad -- some are not awful, but are crap when it comes to subtitle options

i watch stuff via roku -- my roku is about 6 yrs old at this point and seems to be "dying" -- is this just standard planned obsolescence?

sarahell, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 17:11 (ten months ago) link

among the most frustrating things is that depending on your device, the interface and remote controls are totally different! You can't even play Criterion on an Amazon Fire and you can't play Mubi on a Playstation. Prime is easy to explore on a Fire but nearly impossible on a Roku. Everything's fucked!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 17:15 (ten months ago) link

I do Netflix and will do Disney+. More often than not, if I want to see a movie badly enough I buy a physical copy or, if that isn't an option, just watch that shit on YouTube or whatever. I watched a shitty, washed-out '30s movie on Internet Archive this weekend because it appears to have never been released via any legit home video format. Does that count as a streaming service?

Furter-Bursting Tater Squirter (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 17:28 (ten months ago) link

youtube and archive.org certainly remain the people's netflix if netflix isn't already the people's netflix

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 17:32 (ten months ago) link

I still pay for cable (and the Criterion Channel) but need to talk to people who get TCM through other services.

Anne Hedonia (j.lu), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 19:54 (ten months ago) link

i'm dumping cable as soon as we get fiber internet installed at the end of the month, and signed up for Hulu Live. This looks like it'll save me about $80 a month for basically the same channels and faster internet than the shitty Comcast service I have. Still have netflix, amazon prime, and hbo through hulu. I'll pick up disney as well.

akm, Thursday, 3 October 2019 01:45 (ten months ago) link

oh yeah, and we use the latest generation Apple TVs. I had a Roku that was a few years old and yes, it crapped out. The apps developed by the providers become too resource intensive for the devices.

akm, Thursday, 3 October 2019 01:46 (ten months ago) link

"That netflix standard plan for me is $8usd a month but it's another country's pay structure I guess." how is this possible?

akm, Thursday, 3 October 2019 02:01 (ten months ago) link

i use vrv sometimes for anime and amazon until my last ill-advised prime resub runs out next year, and that's it.

ciderpress, Thursday, 3 October 2019 02:12 (ten months ago) link

Moving to the Los Angeles area with its video stores and cinemas means not having to really care about any of this shit and it rocks.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 3 October 2019 02:16 (ten months ago) link

We cut the cable 2-3 years ago and had Vue for about a year until a price hike, then Sling. The current fight between Fox and Dish/Sling has cramped my baseball watching, so I'm going to drop all channel-package delivery in the next few weeks and not worry about it until the next season of Better Call Saul starts. Dropping Sling and not renewing MLB.tv next season will free up more than enough $$ for Disney, which my wife wants to get. Otherwise, we have Netflix, Hulu, Amazon, CBS (for my wife) and Criterion (for me). Our donation to our PBS affiliate is just big enough to give us access to everything on the PBS channel.

When Filmstruck shut down, Fandor offered subscribers a special deal -- I think it was $25 for a year? Anyway, I got that but probably won't renew it.

WmC, Thursday, 3 October 2019 02:20 (ten months ago) link

Netflix & Prime, but in Australia we can also access iView and SBS On Demand, which are half-decent public broadcaster options.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Thursday, 3 October 2019 06:21 (ten months ago) link

I signed up for Youtube TV so I could talk my mom into ditching her cable bill (you can share accounts with 2-3 people) and it's been the best cable replacement I've experienced. No buffering, standard TV Guide style menu, good enough channel selection. I'm so used to going straight to Netflix or Prime I rarely think of opening the app unless I want to watch sports, though.

Netflix and mlb.tv are free w/ my cell phone, I keep forgetting to cancel HBO Now, keep Prime out of habit, pay for the Criterion Channel so I can feel guilty when I'm too numb at the end of the day to watch something with subtitles and just turn on a CW sci-fi show on Netflix instead.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Thursday, 3 October 2019 07:04 (ten months ago) link

I have Netflix, Hulu, Amazon Prime. I watch all of these via roku as well as a fair amount of free YouTube and Twitch. I also use roku to play music via Spotify, as the TV plugs straight into my stereo.

The quality of film selections on Netflix seems to have really plummeted lately. Amazon has the best selections of those three.

I'm strongly considering Disney+ because I'm a sucker and want to watch the Star Wars shows.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 3 October 2019 11:36 (ten months ago) link

akm xpost. I set up my netflix in Chile so the fees are 4,990; 5,990; and 8,990clp for the 3 tiers. There is currency fluctuation of course but it's been in the $8 range at least for the last year (I just checked) regardless if I am using it in the US or Europe.

Yerac, Thursday, 3 October 2019 12:25 (ten months ago) link

I'm sure they're going to do alright at $30 aimed at people with families.

The trick, I imagine, is not to let your kids know it exists at all. "Moo what? Never heard of it. Is that about cows or something? Cows are boring. You don't want to watch that."

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 5 August 2020 22:18 (one week ago) link

this is studio behaviour that dates back to the early days of home rental

studios want to charge the most per unit, so they can rrrrrrraaaake in the dough

SRP on dvds was still $29.99 as of a couple of years ago - they cant control people selling for less but in their heart of hearts man do they want people to pay that

Same with VOD. They want to charge the max because they want a bigger chunk of profit — their home entertainment divisions are still run by old dudes who refuse to grasp the “sell more at a low price” model — not just now, but like, FOREVER since vhs rental

i used to work in home entertainment media distribution so this is all VERY triggering lol

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 5 August 2020 23:36 (one week ago) link

Wait, what? My mind is completely blown that a private company would want to maximize its profits. Holy shit, I need a minute to let this soak in.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 6 August 2020 03:15 (one week ago) link

also the only parts available are people who get killed, everybody else will be played by Ned Raggett.

Can do.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 6 August 2020 03:18 (one week ago) link

Trading margin for volume doesn't always work out well, they're probably smart to leech as much as they can from non-pirates with whiny children begging to see it.

(Haven't all these live action remakes been hot garbage anyway?)

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Thursday, 6 August 2020 04:07 (one week ago) link

Yeah but that's because they haven't starred me, as established.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 6 August 2020 04:08 (one week ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYS6ifV9IN0

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 6 August 2020 05:37 (one week ago) link

i've heard Pete's Dragon is pretty good. the Lion King is the only one i've seen and it was godawful. but Mulan has the angle of being a more radical reinvention of the material - seemingly no songs, no sidekick dragon, trailer playing up "historical epic adventure" vibes. like potentially it could actually be its own movie.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 6 August 2020 12:17 (one week ago) link

And again, like Pete's Dragon, a real director.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 6 August 2020 12:38 (one week ago) link

Yeah I was surprised by how much I liked that Pete's Dragon, it was surprisingly good.

Josh, who/what distinction are you making about not a "real director? Favreau? He's made some clunkers and I get why people don't like him, but I'd consider him a real direction. I never saw his Jungle Book remake and while, yes, the new Lion King was awful, I think that's less his fault than Disney's for insisting on a near shot-for-shot remake that was so faithful to the original cartoon.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 6 August 2020 13:29 (one week ago) link

guys just get a VPN and torrent this shit. that's 30 bucks in your kids' college funds, or your booze budget, up to you. disney does not deserve your money.

the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Thursday, 6 August 2020 13:31 (one week ago) link

do I need to remind you about disney world

the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Thursday, 6 August 2020 13:34 (one week ago) link

Yeah, Favreau. He's just a nothing. I would never see a movie because he directed it, but I would see a movie by Caro, Coogler, Taika, etc. Even Shane Black (and that Predator movie suuuuuuucked).

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 6 August 2020 13:36 (one week ago) link

Xpost bruh i live a half hour from it, i regularly go there to whizz

popeye's arse (Neanderthal), Thursday, 6 August 2020 13:43 (one week ago) link

fwiw the Predator movie was apparently taken away from Black & Dekker

Steppin' RZA (sic), Thursday, 6 August 2020 20:35 (one week ago) link

I like Shane Black's other films, so I can believe it. At the same time, I recall just about everything about it being bad, from the acting to the directing to the script. It didn't seem like the usual 20 minutes missing or whatever.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 6 August 2020 21:08 (one week ago) link

Yikes - I'd just read rumblings of editors being stuck on it for months, recutting and recutting to studio demands, but there were many months of Black and the cast being sent back to reshoot half the movie, in new scenes that don't connect with the original film.

Steppin' RZA (sic), Thursday, 6 August 2020 21:37 (one week ago) link

Wow. Still, I made it halfway through that and don't believe any version of that movie would have been any good.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 6 August 2020 22:21 (one week ago) link

A lot of the things in it sound like bad ideas when written down third-hand as examples of stuff that a studio wanted removed, but so would almost everything in Monster Squad or Kiss Kiss Bang Bang.

Steppin' RZA (sic), Thursday, 6 August 2020 23:06 (one week ago) link

Since our household doesn’t subscribe to Simon’s paradigm-obliterating views on criminal enterprise, we finally got Disney+. Mainly for The Cat From Outer Space and The Three Caballeros, of course.

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Saturday, 8 August 2020 03:14 (five days ago) link

Jumping into the Mulan debate, I doubt we’ll be especially interested in the new Mulan but $30 for a brand new movie isn’t going to kill my wallet any more than going to a theater with wife + kid and getting popcorn, candy and a beer or two. Plus at home we can refill our empty calories at any time without missing stuff and avoid deadly viruses. If they do the same thing for Black Widow I can almost certainly guarantee we’ll pony up and make a big movie night out of it.

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Saturday, 8 August 2020 03:45 (five days ago) link

Thinking about signing up for a Shudder account and getting really into horror movies.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Sunday, 9 August 2020 09:15 (four days ago) link

shudder rules

the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Sunday, 9 August 2020 09:37 (four days ago) link

The Howard Ashman documentary on Disney+ is, obviously, not as full-on as could be, but it's still a moving testimonial about a creative life cut way too short.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 9 August 2020 18:11 (four days ago) link

yeah, i watched it last night with my partner. very much sugar coated and managed a fair amount of innocent revisionism to the AIDS era but he comes through as somewhat overdriven.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 9 August 2020 21:43 (four days ago) link

I figure it's just about what a 'family' channel as such could get away with. It's not Paris is Burning or How to Survive a Plague (say) but even showing one clip of Larry Kramer in the early 80s -- mentioned by name! -- is kinda surprising.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 9 August 2020 21:56 (four days ago) link

i suppose? one gets the impression of disney as being allies through the ACT UP era and i don't really buy that...

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 9 August 2020 22:48 (four days ago) link

Ha, quite. Cryptosupport at best.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 10 August 2020 03:51 (three days ago) link

https://hyperallergic.com/581091/howard-ashman-documentary-disney

The approach to queerness (more specifically, gayness) that Hahn takes is about as surface-level as the likes of Bohemian Rhapsody or Rocketman. It’s open about Ashman’s sexuality without ever interrogating how it influenced his art. It doesn’t give the viewer much of a chance to get to know him as a human being outside of his career, in particular neglecting Lauch’s point of view. As pleasant as it is to see a mainstream film premiering on Disney+ not shy away from highlighting a gay man, it isn’t surprising that it would not be interested in diving deeper. After all, Disney has a penchant for whitewashing its history, from its longtime denial of Song of the South to its self-congratulatory depiction of Walt Disney and author P.L. Travers’s toxic work relationship in Saving Mr. Banks. If the documentary felt more focused, I might even accuse it of being outright revisionist; as it is, it simply haphazardly depoliticizes Ashman’s work.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 10 August 2020 18:00 (three days ago) link

(though tbh the comments on that piece are also illuminating)

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 10 August 2020 18:01 (three days ago) link

Some specific HBO Max numbers in this story about huge layoffs at Warner: they hoped to convert many of HBO's 30 million cable subscribers, but only brought over 1.1 million, and 3 million new customers.

People are still watching TV, it seems.

Steppin' RZA (sic), Monday, 10 August 2020 22:49 (three days ago) link

they hoped to convert many of HBO's 30 million cable subscribers, but only brought over 1.1 million, and 3 million new customers

As the story points out, fucking up the Amazon connect has a lot to do with this. I had HBO through Amazon starting in January of this year and would have 100% flipped over to HBO Max had it been available.

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 10 August 2020 23:34 (three days ago) link

Yes, as also discussed passim. My household has a native Roku TV and the non-Max HBO app.

Steppin' RZA (sic), Monday, 10 August 2020 23:36 (three days ago) link

i need to remember to unsubscribe

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 10 August 2020 23:37 (three days ago) link

Roku household here, same issue. Would probably gladly have switched if they had negotiated such a possibility for us.

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Monday, 10 August 2020 23:39 (three days ago) link

It's pretty insane that Comcast gives me a free sub to HBO Max with my cable sub, but I cannot access HBO Max on their DVR (or my Roku or FireTV devices).

DJI, Tuesday, 11 August 2020 00:08 (two days ago) link

Imagine back in the day of three channels if some corporation had gone all-in on a fourth channel that you couldn't watch on the tv you use to watch all of the other channels on. Maybe you could build your own special set, though? From a kit or something?

Shitty analogy, I know, but...just imagine it.

Ask yoreself: are you're standards too high? (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 00:16 (two days ago) link

It would be more like RCA demanding a cut from the new channel in order to send a code to your TV to receive it, though?

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 00:22 (two days ago) link

God knows! These cross-payment deals suck, and reek of customer data sharing.

DJI, Tuesday, 11 August 2020 00:49 (two days ago) link

Yeah, can't think of anyone as the good guy in this morass. Sad thing is normally I would support Roku as the most open device, but they'll put the knives in when it suits them.

Nhex, Tuesday, 11 August 2020 01:16 (two days ago) link

Still seems like a straight-up Android TV device might be the best option. Wonder if there is some off-brand thing that works fine.

DJI, Tuesday, 11 August 2020 01:35 (two days ago) link

Yes it's called your imagination

Ask yoreself: are you're standards too high? (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 01:36 (two days ago) link

Given the world we live in, I support Roku’s right to stick the knives in in this situation. The Roku does like seventy things we really need during lockdown and HBO does maybe one. Eliminating HBO GO on our Roku was a dumb move and I’m still confused about why it was necessary.

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 01:40 (two days ago) link

I think it's that Roku was extorting them for more subscription revenue (as is Amazon) but it's hard to know without leaks

It gets even more convoluted because I think get HBO Max through Hulu and Amazon Prime, and it'll work through those apps. But in those cases the cut has been distributed

Nhex, Tuesday, 11 August 2020 01:52 (two days ago) link

Imagine back in the day of three channels if some corporation had gone all-in on a fourth channel that you couldn't watch on the tv you use to watch all of the other channels on.

In the UK that actually happened with the launch of our 5th terrestrial channel (imaginatively titled Channel 5) where it used a frequency already occupied by most of the country's VCRs. We ended up with around 5000 people employed around the country retuning videos so we could get the new channel, which was shit.

オニモ (onimo), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 13:43 (two days ago) link

This new Ridley Scott series on HBO Max looks promising:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZMeRoGw6uo

Darin, Tuesday, 11 August 2020 19:00 (two days ago) link

Wait wrong trailer. Meant to post this:

https://youtu.be/0hBFGTCjK3g

Darin, Tuesday, 11 August 2020 19:01 (two days ago) link

i could be into that! also appreciate the lack of superfluous IP for the punters.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 19:28 (two days ago) link

I tried a chinese Android tv device with a pretty vanilla interface and it was terrible. Couldn’t decide if it wanted to be a set top box or a phone without a touch screen and you had to keep using the incredibly slow joystick as a mouse.

Makes the Apple TV trackpad on the remote seem like a welcome relief.

American Fear of Scampos (Ed), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 21:28 (two days ago) link

Raised by Wolves def looks interesting

Nhex, Wednesday, 12 August 2020 01:22 (yesterday) link


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