But Is It on Netflix? - Streaming Video Service Thread: Hulu, Amazon Prime, Apple TV+, Disney+, Peacock, YouTube TV, AT+T Watch, Philo, Playstation Vue, HBO Max, HBO Now, Facebook Live and many more

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A thread to discuss the ongoing balkanization of streaming, cord-cutting, new options, lament and laud the coming and going of new competitors and so on.

Sound off with your obsessive subscriptions!

I'm using Netflix, Hulu, Amazon, Mubi, Criterion, HBO Max, Showtime; might very well find myself doing Apple+ if I upgrade my phone/ipad at some point but can't imagine getting Disney.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 15:29 (two years ago) link

thanking u for having a long enough subcription list to make my own look reasonable

mh, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 15:30 (two years ago) link

subscription, yikes

mh, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 15:31 (two years ago) link

Here's the projected pile of noteworthy streaming channels purported to have unique programming to choose from in 2020... surely this will need to contract at some point in the near future?

Netflix
Hulu
Amazon Prime
Apple TV+
Disney+
NBC Peacock
YouTube TV
AT+T Watch
HBO Max
HBO Now
Showtime
Starz
Facebook Live
CBS Interactive
Discovery/BBC
Criterion
Mubi
Shudder
Acorn
Crunchyroll
DC Universe
Kanopy
AMC Premiere
Pluto

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 15:35 (two years ago) link

I have netflix. That is all.

Yerac, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 15:36 (two years ago) link

Plus a space to talk about delivery services! Roku, Playstation Vue and the like.

Give thanks and praise to PLEX, which is free, has virtually no ads and mostly just magically works.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 15:38 (two years ago) link

We use a Roku and currently pay for Netflix, Amazon Prime, Hulu and we have HBO Go since we currently have it in our cable package. We've been considering ditching cable completely, but when we talk to our provider (Xfinity) they want so much $$ for our internet service alone without a bundle that it still doesn't make sense. Since my wife works from home as a consultant and does a lot of video editing, we need a dependable connection. They really still push the bundles so dropping the cable alone doesn't seem to be the cost savings we hope for.

I know for sure we'll add Disney+ and I'm pushing for the Criterion one too, unsuccessfully thus far.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 15:46 (two years ago) link

I am curious, how much of a difference is it just for internet, vs internet+cable where you are?

Yerac, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 15:49 (two years ago) link

i cord cut earlier this year with the Hulu/No Ads cable package and i have not missed cable at all. I think it's $60 for that package and another $65 for high speed internet.
Supplementing occasionally with tt0rre3ntz helps keep FOMO at bay.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 15:50 (two years ago) link

I have Hulu and Amazon Prime. I had a Showtime add-on through Hulu while Billions was airing, but dropped it after that; I had HBO for a while through Amazon to watch Insecure and Big Little Lies, but dropped that too.

If a show is on a particular streaming platform, it'll often be available for rent/purchase through Amazon, so if it looks really good I'll do that sometimes. I barely ever watch movies anymore - maybe one a month, so none of the movie-oriented services are at all appealing. And since there are no kids in my house, I don't have to worry about Disney, Marvel, etc.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 15:51 (two years ago) link

xp I'd be curious to hear more about Plex's video features, I have a server installed but only use it for music.

Currently we've got Netflix, Amazon Prime, and Shudder ... at some point I want to shut down my Uverse TV service and switch to Hulu or YouTube or some other way to stream live sports and Turner Classic Movies.

Brad C., Wednesday, 2 October 2019 15:51 (two years ago) link

I'm not sure offhand, my wife is the biggest push for cutting the cord in our house and she's been the one talking to them directly. Iirc, we pay around $140 for both right now, but I think she said they'd still want nearly $100 for just internet.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 15:52 (two years ago) link

i pay for netflix (though i should really stop, i watch almost nothing on it), hulu (through spotify which is practically like not paying for it), shudder (the greatest), and criterion. i've never had cable as an adult

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 15:52 (two years ago) link

Hulu's live TV option is ridiculously expensive, to me.

I should add that I also have a digital antenna that pulls in network TV and some other channels like ION (lots of cop-show reruns) and Grit (old Western shows).

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 15:53 (two years ago) link

yeah, I haven't had cable for a very, very long time (15 years?) and I was wondering how much of a difference it is these days to not have them bundled.

Yerac, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 15:53 (two years ago) link

I recently saw a meme about how all these subscription services with unique programming is basically reinventing into a more tedious cable tv.

Yerac, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 15:55 (two years ago) link

Yep. Thanks capitalism for taking an legitimately game-changing technology and just turning it back into the old overpriced thing we all hated 20 years ago.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 16:04 (two years ago) link

Remember back in the 1990s when they kept promising truly ala carte cable packages? "Only pay for the channels you actually watch!". Well it's here now, finally, except you have to pay $9.99 to $12.99 for each of the channels.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 16:05 (two years ago) link

2019 US pricing chart for now and future reference:

Netflix (standard plan, 2 HD screens) - $13 monthly
Hulu - $6 a month
Hulu/No Ads - $12 a month
Hulu/No Ads/Cable/enhanced cloud DVR - $61 a month <- recommend this for cord cutters as it is pretty solid for sports
Amazon Prime - $13 a month, $120 a year; comes with amazon's other stuff
Apple TV+ - $5 a month; free with purchase of new apple hardware
Disney+ - $7 a month or $70 a year; pre-order starts today
NBC Peacock - As yet unannounced
YouTube TV - $50 a month cable package
YouTube Premium - $12 a month
AT+T Watch - $15 a month cable package, free if you're on their network
HBO Max -Currently reported at $15 a month, presumably will offer a package deal with HBO Now
HBO Now - $15 a month
Showtime - $11 a month
Starz - $9 a month
Facebook Watch - Free at the moment
CBS Interactive - $6 a month
Discovery/BBC - As yet unanounced
Criterion - $11 per month, $99 per year
Mubi - $11 pre month
Fandor - $10 per month, $99 per year
Shudder - $5 per month, $48 per year
Acorn - $6 per month, $60 per year
Crunchyroll - Free option or $7 per moth with hi-def and better programming
DC Universe - $8 a month or $75 per year
AMC Premiere - $5 a month
Pluto - Currently Free
Crackle - Currently Free
Kanopy - Currently Free

On the sports tip:
NFL Sunday Ticket is $74 a month or $294 a year
NBA League Pass is $120 a year for one team or $200 to $250 a year for all teams
NHL Season Pass is $140 a year
MLB Season pass is $25 a month via Amazon, $90 a year for one team or $120 for all teams

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 16:13 (two years ago) link

We currently pay for Netflix (incl. dvds!), get Hulu through a friend's account, and HBO Go through a family account that was supposedly canceled but still magically works! All through PS4. Have never rented/bought a digital show or movie a la carte.

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 16:14 (two years ago) link

if you were to buy all the above with hulu as a basic cable delivery option, that plus hi-speed internet would run you around $275 a month for television.

I highly recommend just downloading PLEX as it's free. Basically, if you have any kind of smart tv option, you can stream whatever you download directly to your television.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 16:28 (two years ago) link

That netflix standard plan for me is $8usd a month but it's another country's pay structure I guess.

Yerac, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 16:37 (two years ago) link

yeah there's a "standard definition" single screen plan for $8

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 16:37 (two years ago) link

No, this is for 2 screens HD.

Yerac, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 16:39 (two years ago) link

I just looked up the basic one screen it's about 6.50 USD.

Yerac, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 16:41 (two years ago) link

torrent everything, $0

van dyke parks generator (anagram), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 16:41 (two years ago) link

a given.

Yerac, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 16:44 (two years ago) link

well ya gotta pay for internet and hard drives! plus not everybody is ethically down with / has the technical expertise / willingness to take the time to learn how to join better groups / etc

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 16:44 (two years ago) link

although do people really torrent tv shows and movies that much anymore when you can find a free stream of almost anything?

Yerac, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 16:46 (two years ago) link

for me it's most helpful when the tv show in question just isn't commercially available in my region

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 16:46 (two years ago) link

Worth noting that YouTube Premium also includes YouTube Music (and formerly Google Play Music).

Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 16:54 (two years ago) link

a recent streaming experience with hulu, trying to start an episode in the middle:

click episode, cannot seek to middle, 90 seconds of commercials
seek to middle, 90 seconds of commercials
accidentally clicked on another episode while trying to close the app on my fone, 90 seconds of commercials starts
click original episode again, 90 seconds of commercials
close hulu, torrent entire season of show, cancel hulu

diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 16:58 (two years ago) link

i won't front: all video streaming services are flawed in a dozen ways that piracy frankly is not.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 17:01 (two years ago) link

My friends who are subletting my place have like 6 subscriptions and when I stay there I have to leave the room when they are trying to find something to watch (which always ends up taking a minimum of 20 minutes). A lot of the user interfaces are completely horrid.

Yerac, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 17:04 (two years ago) link

wish the cinema was cheaper

imago, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 17:05 (two years ago) link

xp -- ha - i have netflix, amazon, hbo (through amazon), britbox, acorn (which i should cancel because it's pretty much the same as britbox -- i had acorn first), and MhZ --

omg the user interfaces -- yeah some are really bad -- some are not awful, but are crap when it comes to subtitle options

i watch stuff via roku -- my roku is about 6 yrs old at this point and seems to be "dying" -- is this just standard planned obsolescence?

sarahell, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 17:11 (two years ago) link

among the most frustrating things is that depending on your device, the interface and remote controls are totally different! You can't even play Criterion on an Amazon Fire and you can't play Mubi on a Playstation. Prime is easy to explore on a Fire but nearly impossible on a Roku. Everything's fucked!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 17:15 (two years ago) link

I do Netflix and will do Disney+. More often than not, if I want to see a movie badly enough I buy a physical copy or, if that isn't an option, just watch that shit on YouTube or whatever. I watched a shitty, washed-out '30s movie on Internet Archive this weekend because it appears to have never been released via any legit home video format. Does that count as a streaming service?

Furter-Bursting Tater Squirter (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 17:28 (two years ago) link

youtube and archive.org certainly remain the people's netflix if netflix isn't already the people's netflix

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 17:32 (two years ago) link

I still pay for cable (and the Criterion Channel) but need to talk to people who get TCM through other services.

Anne Hedonia (j.lu), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 19:54 (two years ago) link

i'm dumping cable as soon as we get fiber internet installed at the end of the month, and signed up for Hulu Live. This looks like it'll save me about $80 a month for basically the same channels and faster internet than the shitty Comcast service I have. Still have netflix, amazon prime, and hbo through hulu. I'll pick up disney as well.

akm, Thursday, 3 October 2019 01:45 (two years ago) link

oh yeah, and we use the latest generation Apple TVs. I had a Roku that was a few years old and yes, it crapped out. The apps developed by the providers become too resource intensive for the devices.

akm, Thursday, 3 October 2019 01:46 (two years ago) link

"That netflix standard plan for me is $8usd a month but it's another country's pay structure I guess." how is this possible?

akm, Thursday, 3 October 2019 02:01 (two years ago) link

i use vrv sometimes for anime and amazon until my last ill-advised prime resub runs out next year, and that's it.

ciderpress, Thursday, 3 October 2019 02:12 (two years ago) link

Moving to the Los Angeles area with its video stores and cinemas means not having to really care about any of this shit and it rocks.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 3 October 2019 02:16 (two years ago) link

We cut the cable 2-3 years ago and had Vue for about a year until a price hike, then Sling. The current fight between Fox and Dish/Sling has cramped my baseball watching, so I'm going to drop all channel-package delivery in the next few weeks and not worry about it until the next season of Better Call Saul starts. Dropping Sling and not renewing MLB.tv next season will free up more than enough $$ for Disney, which my wife wants to get. Otherwise, we have Netflix, Hulu, Amazon, CBS (for my wife) and Criterion (for me). Our donation to our PBS affiliate is just big enough to give us access to everything on the PBS channel.

When Filmstruck shut down, Fandor offered subscribers a special deal -- I think it was $25 for a year? Anyway, I got that but probably won't renew it.

WmC, Thursday, 3 October 2019 02:20 (two years ago) link

Netflix & Prime, but in Australia we can also access iView and SBS On Demand, which are half-decent public broadcaster options.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Thursday, 3 October 2019 06:21 (two years ago) link

I signed up for Youtube TV so I could talk my mom into ditching her cable bill (you can share accounts with 2-3 people) and it's been the best cable replacement I've experienced. No buffering, standard TV Guide style menu, good enough channel selection. I'm so used to going straight to Netflix or Prime I rarely think of opening the app unless I want to watch sports, though.

Netflix and mlb.tv are free w/ my cell phone, I keep forgetting to cancel HBO Now, keep Prime out of habit, pay for the Criterion Channel so I can feel guilty when I'm too numb at the end of the day to watch something with subtitles and just turn on a CW sci-fi show on Netflix instead.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Thursday, 3 October 2019 07:04 (two years ago) link

I have Netflix, Hulu, Amazon Prime. I watch all of these via roku as well as a fair amount of free YouTube and Twitch. I also use roku to play music via Spotify, as the TV plugs straight into my stereo.

The quality of film selections on Netflix seems to have really plummeted lately. Amazon has the best selections of those three.

I'm strongly considering Disney+ because I'm a sucker and want to watch the Star Wars shows.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 3 October 2019 11:36 (two years ago) link

akm xpost. I set up my netflix in Chile so the fees are 4,990; 5,990; and 8,990clp for the 3 tiers. There is currency fluctuation of course but it's been in the $8 range at least for the last year (I just checked) regardless if I am using it in the US or Europe.

Yerac, Thursday, 3 October 2019 12:25 (two years ago) link

I watched the latest episode of Only Murders the night after seeing the dialogue-less episode of Mr. Robot, pretty cool coincidence.

― Leee Tigre (Leee), Monday, 4 October 2021 15:32 (one week ago)


This was a great episode, makes the whole season worth watching, reminded me of the best Inside No.9 episode - "A Quiet Night In", except with dirty scrabble.

danzig, Wednesday, 13 October 2021 14:40 (one week ago) link

Were people expecting cinema verite with Ted Lasso or something

talkin' about his flat tire (DJP), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 15:33 (one week ago) link

Yes, nothing less will do.

Spiral Scratchiti (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 15:34 (one week ago) link

Once I realized they weren't going to punish Sam for standing against their sponsor, following it up with Higgins' kid seeing Santa Claus, I went "oh I get it, this is an alternate dimension where being kind always pays off" and that made me watch the show very differently

talkin' about his flat tire (DJP), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 15:34 (one week ago) link

But does it pay off for Ted himself? I guess we will see.

Spiral Scratchiti (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 15:46 (one week ago) link

i saw there was some midnight mass discussion here. i am not really watching much "prestige tv" these days but that was one thing that broke through for me. it is very good and i recommend it if you're into horror (it isn't too extreme) and/or discussions of faith/death/forgiveness, and don't mind a slower pace. i found its twist on the ******* horror genre pretty interesting - it's not a huge or unprecedented twist but it's effective. i need to watch more mike flanagan stuff, i've only seen doctor sleep (as good as it could be based on the source material) and a few episodes of haunting of hill house (seemed good but i didn't have the time to keep up with it)

na (NA), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 15:54 (one week ago) link

That has gotten really good reviews around here. I am intrigued.

Spiral Scratchiti (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 16:14 (one week ago) link

"That British-flavored "Home Alone" movie with Pete Holmes in it is... something"

I love Aisling Bea and am disappointed she is in this but maybe she got a bunch of money and maybe this will help greenlight another season of This Way Up

Flanagan: Midnight Mass is the best thing he's done that I've seen, it succeeded on pretty much every level. Both Haunting series are good, but go awry at some point and I don't even remember how Bly Manor ended. I thought Doctor Sleep was ok and the things wrong with it were wrong with the source material. And I forgot that he made Oculus, which in fact I think is very very good.

akm, Wednesday, 13 October 2021 16:33 (one week ago) link

yeah, I'm not sure I've seen anything of his since that. or maybe hush? anyway, I've generally liked everything I've seen of his, but he's since turned into Mr Stephen King, so I've lost a little bit of interest. I did see the one with what's her name handcuffed the entire time, actually thought that was pretty good.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 13 October 2021 16:42 (one week ago) link

The end of Bly Manor was wild, just from the standpoint of "I see you were going for an allegory on the acceptance of mortality but you accidentally ended up on 'life is made of dread and then one day you abandon your loved ones before you murder them'"

talkin' about his flat tire (DJP), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 19:22 (one week ago) link

i wonder if I even watched bly manor, now that I think of it.

akm, Wednesday, 13 October 2021 20:38 (one week ago) link

I think I'm going to pause my watching of Y: The Last Man, the pace of which is incredibly slower than it is in the comics, and I think that if I had them ready to watch every day it might go down better. Although the relative lack of humor in the show is not a good sign IMO.

Leee Tigre (Leee), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 23:08 (one week ago) link

got a couple of months of Now TV for £1, so binge watched that Lotus thing.
watchable escapism.
though the kidman pantomime russian accent thing was somewhat offputting.

however, as i have a few weeks left on the cheap deal, i decided to try out something else and plumped for Brassic.
f&ck me i enjoyed it.
laughs aplenty amongst the excess swearing and cliches overload.
i reckon i could watch joe gilgun in just about anything.

mark e, Saturday, 16 October 2021 18:09 (four days ago) link

and yes, even when he is a vampire.
he is by far the best thing in Preacher.

mark e, Saturday, 16 October 2021 18:14 (four days ago) link

oh i didnt know abt Brassic! its on hulu here, i’ll check it out. love Joe Gilgun so much

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 16 October 2021 18:15 (four days ago) link

he is genuinely one of the best actors at the moment.
in Brassic his character has bipolar as he does IRL.
apparently a lot of his experiences were incorportated into the Vinnie character.
hope you enjoy it VG.
it has totally made the last couple of weeks fly by.
and weirdly i think i swear a lot more now.

mark e, Saturday, 16 October 2021 18:22 (four days ago) link

“Sam and Rebecca,” huh? Where have we heard that before

(I still haven’t watched TL.)

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 16 October 2021 18:38 (four days ago) link

but his criticism of Ted’s treatment of him was valid

Was it?? Because he was a literal towel boy before Ted gave him a chance and Ted was pretty much unflaggingly nice to him aside from apparently not constantly taking enough time out to treat him like mommy's special boy. Then had the fucking gall to lecture Ted after he had disgustingly betrayed him about his mental health issues to the press. Maybe Nate should look at himself and what a little Smeageol ass prick he turned into

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 16 October 2021 19:02 (four days ago) link

Not to mention his shitty bullying behavior towards the new towel boy

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 16 October 2021 19:03 (four days ago) link

ok

it’s reached a point where it is not enjoyable to talk abt Ted Lasso itt anymore so i will refrain

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 16 October 2021 21:07 (four days ago) link

Sorry vg :(

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 16 October 2021 21:25 (four days ago) link

<3 s’alright. you’re not wrong.

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 16 October 2021 22:33 (four days ago) link

Some kind of sitcom gravity thing, wherein the characters end up becoming too likeable or unlikeable in a formulaic way.

Double Chocula (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 16 October 2021 23:59 (four days ago) link

“Sam and Rebecca,” huh? Where have we heard that before

They make a joke about it on the show too

Vinnie, Sunday, 17 October 2021 00:12 (three days ago) link

Midnight Mass - “where do we go when we die” convo is a drag. I came for creepy priests not bad Christian movie.

papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 17 October 2021 03:37 (three days ago) link

_but his criticism of Ted’s treatment of him was valid_

Was it?? Because he was a literal towel boy before Ted gave him a chance and Ted was pretty much unflaggingly nice to him aside from apparently not constantly taking enough time out to treat him like mommy's special boy. Then had the fucking gall to lecture Ted after he had disgustingly betrayed him about his mental health issues to the press. Maybe Nate should look at himself and what a little Smeageol ass prick he turned into


Yeah totally. Terrible charachter. But in general the development of the story and charachters is not well written and the show became a bit annoying. I still enjoyed parts of it but I agree with all the aspects already mentioned in other posts. The bad breath moment had me in tears laughing though !

AlXTC from Paris, Sunday, 17 October 2021 07:32 (three days ago) link

I'm bailing on that after last week - the Washington-based arc is awful and especially the Meghan McCain/Ivanka Trump character.

papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 17 October 2021 21:45 (three days ago) link

I'll ride it all the way to the ground. It had enough interesting ideas to keep me on board.

but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 17 October 2021 21:48 (three days ago) link

Just read the trade paperbacks IMO.

papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 17 October 2021 21:58 (three days ago) link

I hate 99% of comics.

but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 17 October 2021 22:42 (three days ago) link

So do I but the Y GNs are good.

papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 17 October 2021 23:04 (three days ago) link

Oh shit, so after all those delays and false starts, they finally got the show going and fucked it up badly enough that it's one season?

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 17 October 2021 23:41 (three days ago) link

looks like it

When Young Sheldon began to rap (forksclovetofu), Monday, 18 October 2021 01:42 (two days ago) link

Cancelled before it even finished airing! I guess I won't bother with it after all

Vinnie, Monday, 18 October 2021 02:03 (two days ago) link

I honestly didn't expect this to be the one that crashed/burned of the 'long delayed they say they're working on it' series that finally appeared around now in comparison to Foundation, but here we are. (And as we've been saying on the thread about it, Foundation is doing pretty well so far!)

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 October 2021 02:05 (two days ago) link

I read the comics a long time ago andseem to remember they were fairly humourous but the show has been pretty much relentlessly grim

groovypanda, Monday, 18 October 2021 09:50 (two days ago) link

Watched the first episode of Squid Game and liked it okay enough, then I decided to start re-watching episodes of The Genius instead.

Sorry, but that is how I feel (Ste), Monday, 18 October 2021 10:10 (two days ago) link

It feels overwhelming how many movies and TV shows are "out there" right now... I suppose the pandemic halted production/delayed release on a number of things, and now there's a deluge

I like any director/showrunner who uses a recurring stable of actors, it always feels really comforting and fun to me, whether it's the AHS franchise or Mike Flanagan's stuff. I watched up to (and including) the penultimate episode of Midnight Mass, and was texting a friend about it yesterday before watching the finale. He said, "the only word Midnight Mass hates more than "Catholic" is "Cut!"" and I agreed. I said, "I haven't seen the finale, but if this was Stephen King, there'd be an appearance of a hand of god at the end, or the kids would fight evil by fucking". Flanagan's ending was less insulting and yet more insulting, like a figure skater who is building up to a big finish and then just elects to not make the jump.

I'm told I should watch Evil next.

I'm scoring a Netflix series atm myself, it is interesting to kinda get a sense of the relationship between studio-and-showrunners, it feels very hands-off in terms of content, but "go go go" in terms of deadlines.

flamboyant goon tie included, Monday, 18 October 2021 10:48 (two days ago) link

I'd love to hear some reports back for sure. If there's anything that's struck me about the current era of prestige TV it's that the scores have often actually been pretty distinctive and effective, much more than mere cues and filler. I do see lots of the same names (Bear McCreary, Jeff Russo ... ).

Having seen a lot of Flanagan's stuff, and just rewatched "Oculus" again last night, his shtick really seems to be "Stephen King but slower." Which usually works, tbh. Lots of crying, too, and family trauma drama.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 October 2021 12:34 (two days ago) link

Bf said yesterday: "'Hill House' was a horror movie masquerading as a show about grief, and 'Midnight Mass' was a show about grief masquerading as a horror movie"

All the current prestige TV scores are extremely Kontakt-based in a very entry-level way. I hear them with an appreciation for their economy and efficiency. It's kind of pleasing to watch Flanagan, for example, and be able to identify which out-of-the-box sample bank the composer was using... same with "White Lotus". It makes me feel like I have a license to cut corners. "Oh, literally you can just press 'go' on some Mysteria samples and call it a score? good to remember ;)"

flamboyant goon tie included, Monday, 18 October 2021 14:48 (two days ago) link

just gonna revive the Ted Lasso discourse for a hot second to say the transformation of Nate was 100% believable and, in some way, inevitable once you saw the way his dad treated him

talkin' about his flat tire (DJP), Monday, 18 October 2021 15:07 (two days ago) link

I find that the TV scores that have been catching my ear lately aren't terribly ambitious but they are very effective in their simplicity. Like "For All Mankind," I think the composer of that one is Russo (who used to be in Tonic!), and it's really a lot of variations on a theme. But that theme is lovely, and the music works so well. Reminds me of the approach of someone like Carter Burwell in a lot of the Coen Bros. stuff.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 October 2021 15:29 (two days ago) link

All the current prestige TV scores are extremely Kontakt-based in a very entry-level way.

It's been that way for a while now, hasn't it? Or at least happens so much I don't even notice it anymore. I still think there's levels to how well these sampled instruments are used - I kinda liked the White Lotus score, which didn't try or need to shoot for realism, but thought Vigil's score was very fake and anonymous for a thriller show, like something I would make! (That whole show felt like it was made quickly.)

Vinnie, Monday, 18 October 2021 23:52 (two days ago) link

I feel like I've seen or read or heard the story being told by Hulu's "Dopesick" 100 times (hell, one of my best friends is a lead lawyer in the Ohio trial in progress), but damn, this cast makes it tempting: Kaitlyn Dever, Michael Keaton, Peter Sarsgard, Rosario Dawson, Will Poulter, Michael Stuhlbarg, Mare Winningham, Ray McKinnon ...

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 October 2021 14:59 (yesterday) link

We watched the first episode and it felt pretty on-the-nose.

DJI, Tuesday, 19 October 2021 15:08 (yesterday) link

the (nonfiction) book is excellent but even w such a good cast i feel like there’s no way to avoid corniness by dramatizing it
it feels like a bad idea to me

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 19 October 2021 17:55 (yesterday) link

They had the family literally sitting at a big long table in the wing of a gallery they donated, with a lawyer at either end and a big gap in the middle, talking past each other using the lawyers. That felt really freaking clumsy.

I must admit some of what was revealed I did not know - particularly that they invented the concept of "breakthrough pain".

Keaton's good in this though, if a little "shucks I'm just a simple cornball mining town GP".

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 20 October 2021 01:21 (eighteen hours ago) link

It’s kind of strange to watch these shows filmed in the past year, and which take place in an alternate, non-Covid universe (or maybe “2019?).

Just finished The Other Two... LMAO at the final joke (esp. in relation to my comment above)!

juristic person (morrisp), Wednesday, 20 October 2021 05:12 (fourteen hours ago) link

it's a great punchline

When Young Sheldon began to rap (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 20 October 2021 12:04 (seven hours ago) link


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