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The film streaming service from TCM & Criterion Collection goes live in 13 days — October 19th.
$6.99/month for the basic service, $10.99/month (or $99/year) for Filmstruck + Criterion Channel

Who's in?

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Thursday, 6 October 2016 13:03 (three years ago) link

looks good that they have the commentaries, extras etc of Criterion discs, or at least some of that kind of content. i hope this won't mean the end of the Criterion blu rays. i'm expecting 'that market' will always want the 36 page books and fancy packaging and such. i know i will.

http://www.filmstruck.com/

piscesx, Thursday, 6 October 2016 13:27 (three years ago) link

I'm in.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 6 October 2016 13:29 (three years ago) link

i wonder why the TCM lot and the Criterion gang decided to get into bed together. i mean Criterion doesn't seem like an obvious match for Ted 'Colourization' Turner.

piscesx, Thursday, 6 October 2016 13:30 (three years ago) link

Turner hasn't been involved in years...? TCM is a pretty good channel. Have they ever shown a colorized film?

Cons: US only, no Roku support at launch, extreme vagueness (how many films? "HUNDREDS of films!")

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Thursday, 6 October 2016 13:37 (three years ago) link

But I'll sign up, at least for a few months.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Thursday, 6 October 2016 13:37 (three years ago) link

I'll wait to start until Criterion joins up in November. I'll drop the $99 for their catalog alone.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:44 (three years ago) link

Criterion won't be available from day 1? I hadn't heard that part.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:49 (three years ago) link

Yet no one posts on my Fandor thread

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 6 October 2016 15:13 (three years ago) link

November 11th for Criterion. They have to wait for the Hulu deal to expire.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 6 October 2016 15:15 (three years ago) link

Not bad, if you do the $99 once-a-year payment, it's about $20 cheaper than a year of Netflix. Is there any way to browse the TCM catalog at the moment?

erry red flag (f. hazel), Thursday, 6 October 2016 15:25 (three years ago) link

On their FB page they said Criterion will be available at launch.

I want to sign up but my two devices (Nvidia Shield TV and XB1) aren't supported.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 6 October 2016 16:35 (three years ago) link

I went by this press release that says the 1th of November.

https://thefilmstage.com/news/filmstruck-and-the-criterion-channel-reveal-subscription-pricing-plans/

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 6 October 2016 18:13 (three years ago) link

Been reading a lot of information on the website and elsewhere, but haven't seen anything that says the TCM movies will also be part of the package. I have a nagging feeling that they're not. Also wonder if the Criterion movies will be available in 1080, instead of the 720 now on Hulu.

Jazzbo, Thursday, 6 October 2016 18:17 (three years ago) link

I don't think everything on nightly at TCM will be on there but a selection of TCM-sequel films.

I'm going to guess it will be like Mubi with a larger rotating library plus Criterion.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 6 October 2016 18:45 (three years ago) link

TCM-esque

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 6 October 2016 18:46 (three years ago) link

yeah, TCM's tweet that filmstruck "will focus on indie, foreign & cult titles, not Old Hollywood. Some limited titles, not many" considerably dampened my enthusiasm.

https://twitter.com/tcm/status/777661149911347200

intheblanks, Friday, 7 October 2016 04:41 (three years ago) link

my guess is milo z otm re: criterion plus larger mubi. Which is cool, but not the turner library plus janus library nearly nonstop excellence that i had prematurely imagined

intheblanks, Friday, 7 October 2016 04:46 (three years ago) link

I have a Hulu subscription and honestly never watched a single Criterion title. The ones I want, I just buy.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Friday, 7 October 2016 11:00 (three years ago) link

I was excited when I thought this was gonna be criterion + old Hollywood tcm stuff. The latter element was critical for me. If it's criterion + buffet of other stuff then no.

look at the morning people (Jon not Jon), Friday, 7 October 2016 11:18 (three years ago) link

Yeah, that's a bummer. I figured $99 was a no brainer but if it's Criterion plus some random rotating films I don't know.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 7 October 2016 13:53 (three years ago) link

basically i would pay... let's see... $15 a month for some reasonable fascimile of access to TCM's programming without having to have fucking cable tv

look at the morning people (Jon not Jon), Friday, 7 October 2016 13:55 (three years ago) link

aw man. I too was pretty stoked for the TCM+Criterion version of this.

DOCTOR CAISNO, BYCREATIVELABBUS (Doctor Casino), Friday, 7 October 2016 13:59 (three years ago) link

This weird in-between time where the biggest events still happen on old-fashioned cable TV, the "prestige" TEH DISCOURSE TV shows are on Netflix, film is either exploded across multiple competing streaming services or iTunes rental downloads that disappear after 24 hours or totally unavailable, video stores are rare — is totally excruciating.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 7 October 2016 14:04 (three years ago) link

whiney otm, i feel a deep nostalgia for, like, 2008-2010, when a full decade of DVD production had led to lot of foreign/classic/arthouse stuff to be available, and Netflix was still in the business of providing just about any DVD that got produced.

intheblanks, Friday, 7 October 2016 16:00 (three years ago) link

Like, the fact that we let this happen is ridiculous: http://ww2.kqed.org/arts/2014/09/12/netflix_streaming_dvds/

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 7 October 2016 16:04 (three years ago) link

maybe i just wasn't reading the early filmstruck announcements carefully, but it seems like everyone i know was expecting it to have a major focus on classic hollywood, given tcm's involvement. My guess is that getting streaming rights to that old hollywood stuff is probably just insanely complicated and, from a business perspective, not worth the investment of time and resources. Still disappointing though.

intheblanks, Friday, 7 October 2016 16:06 (three years ago) link

I've never watched any Criterions on Hulu but that's because their interface is such a disaster - you don't know what's streaming in HD, there's no easy way to sort the entire Criterion list, etc. Higher hopes for this, though I'm a lot less inclined toward a burning need to watch Truffaut than when I was 23.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Friday, 7 October 2016 16:30 (three years ago) link

Their interface/searching/tagging/credits is all pretty awful in comparison to Netflix and even Amazon Prime. That said, damn I'm gonna have to rush out some screenings before they leave. Better get Lady Snowblood queued up.

Nhex, Friday, 7 October 2016 17:17 (three years ago) link

The FAQ has changed to specify that only 4th-gen Apple TV will support this, so me and my 3rd-gen box are out of luck. I'll have to load a film on my iMac and push it to the tv with Airplay.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Friday, 7 October 2016 20:25 (three years ago) link

With airplay/casting, does it make a difference if you're casting from a phone vs. a computer?

Nhex, Friday, 7 October 2016 20:34 (three years ago) link

(I think my Apple TV is second generation...)

Nhex, Friday, 7 October 2016 20:34 (three years ago) link

I honestly don't know. That time David Lynch cussed traumatized me so bad I've never tried watching film or video on my phone.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Friday, 7 October 2016 20:39 (three years ago) link

sad trombone

Hello film fans:

We want to share some news that the launch of FilmStruck is delayed until November as we work to complete a seamless and easy registration process for subscribers.

Just like the final stages of completing a film, this additional time will allow us to put the finishing touches on FilmStruck in order to bring you a premium service with beautifully curated content and the largest streaming library of world-renowned arthouse, indie, cult and foreign films. Rest assured, we're working hard to bring you the high-quality streaming movie service you've been waiting for.

Thank you for both your patience and your enthusiastic interest in FilmStruck.

The FilmStruck Team

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Tuesday, 18 October 2016 18:47 (three years ago) link

At this point they should wait until the Hulu contract for the Criterions expires.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 18:51 (three years ago) link

Yep. I wasn't planning on starting any free trial until everything was available.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Tuesday, 18 October 2016 18:58 (three years ago) link

Launched.
Looks like the Criterions are up with an 11-day overlap with Hulu. Seeing a lot of fussing on the Facebook page about errors while setting up payment.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Tuesday, 1 November 2016 16:34 (three years ago) link

Anyone start using this yet? Any thoughts (apart from the still unavailable (?) Criterions?

Federico Boswarlos, Wednesday, 2 November 2016 00:29 (three years ago) link

I'm in, just getting the apps installed now. I need a tivo app! Apple and Amazon will do for now.

the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Wednesday, 2 November 2016 01:21 (three years ago) link

Sound like it's worth waiting a few weeks for them to get all the bugs worked out

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 2 November 2016 01:24 (three years ago) link

Not available on Roku til Jan so nope for a while. Also copy on their site suggested that virtually all Criterions wd be available but several that I've searched for are not (incl All That Jazz, ugh)

Fluffy Saint-Bernard (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 2 November 2016 01:27 (three years ago) link

They have someone responding to comments on Facebook, putting on the shiny happy face but being really vague with specific questions.

Some Guy Named Dave: Your Criterion selection seems to be quite limited. Are you ever going to offer the same number of Criterion titles as Hulu - over 900?

FilmStruck: Hi Dave, on the #CriterionChannel side you will find the largest selection of Criterion releases available to stream

Me: That doesn't really answer the question that was asked...

FilmStruck: #CriterionChannel has the largest Criterion selection available streaming, more than was ever available elsewhere.

Me: Ozu on Hulu: 30 features, 2 shorts and a trailer
Ozu on Filmstruck: looks like 18 features

Filmstruck: (crickets)

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Wednesday, 2 November 2016 01:41 (three years ago) link

Huh, why would it have less than Hulu does? That doesn't make any sense to me. I did notice through a cursory search that they had at least two titles not on Hulu (Godard's Every Man for Himself and Yang's A Brighter Summer Day), so I was hopeful that maybe it had more than Hulu.

intheblanks, Wednesday, 2 November 2016 02:14 (three years ago) link

It doesn't have all the Oshima titles that are currently on Hulu either

intheblanks, Wednesday, 2 November 2016 02:15 (three years ago) link

I'm hoping they're still loading up the buffet table. They have quite a few things that aren't on Hulu -- Blood Simple, that JFK documentary stuff. They got The Killing of a Chinese Bookie back, which disappeared from Hulu a year or more ago.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Wednesday, 2 November 2016 02:19 (three years ago) link

I'm hopeful too, though the way filmstruck has been marketed and rolled out has dampened my expectations all around

intheblanks, Wednesday, 2 November 2016 02:22 (three years ago) link

Even Criterion doesn't have the rights to all the Criterions anymore

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 2 November 2016 03:05 (three years ago) link

yeah, otm, and i'm sure there are a number of criterions that got dvd release, but where they never had streaming rights. the more i search around on filmstruck the more i think that WilliamC is probably right that they're still adding movies to the service.

intheblanks, Wednesday, 2 November 2016 03:10 (three years ago) link

hm. no amazon app even!

the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Wednesday, 2 November 2016 16:49 (three years ago) link

TBF, this is the day where they're going nuts with the press.

the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Wednesday, 2 November 2016 17:38 (three years ago) link

They managed to go with all the devices that I don't own. Not sure it's worth picking up a new AppleTV just for this.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 2 November 2016 17:41 (three years ago) link

seems lame that it's not on xbone/ps4; that's what a very significant chunk of the population use to stream stuff, no?

the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Wednesday, 2 November 2016 17:43 (three years ago) link

Oh wait, I do have an Amazon Fire TV in my office, guess I can watch Kurosawa while filling out payroll forms and stuff.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 2 November 2016 17:43 (three years ago) link

filling empty space with the greatest cinema ever made is kinda why i'm willing to give up a c-note for even the dream of that actually happening.

the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Wednesday, 2 November 2016 17:45 (three years ago) link

They managed to go with all the devices that I don't own. Not sure it's worth picking up a new AppleTV just for this.

― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, November 2, 2016 1:41 PM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

A Chromecast is $35

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 2 November 2016 17:47 (three years ago) link

for me, it's about having a tv with limited HD inputs... one for the ps4, one for the tivo and switching stuff out means a painful boot up period and extra hassle so i find i just don't do it

the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Wednesday, 2 November 2016 17:57 (three years ago) link

It's not available for the Chromecast, according to them That means I can screen mirror if I got one but have to leave my laptop up and running the entire time.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 2 November 2016 18:02 (three years ago) link

Screen mirroring quality is pretty meh, IME, but it's been a while since I used a Chromecast.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 2 November 2016 18:02 (three years ago) link

It's available for Chromecast in December, you won't die if you have to wait 30 days before you can see Andrei Rublev

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 2 November 2016 18:11 (three years ago) link

It will be available for XBox One and Roku in six months, pretty sure I could find plenty to watch on Netflix and Amazon Video until then. We're talking about now, though.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 2 November 2016 18:15 (three years ago) link


It's available for Chromecast in December, you won't die if you have to wait 30 days before you can see Andrei Rublev

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, November 2, 2016 11:11 AM (fifty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

also as a public service announcement the criterion print of andrei rublev is shitty and you can watch a much better transfer on youtube right now

intheblanks, Wednesday, 2 November 2016 19:02 (three years ago) link

They said PS4 "first half" of the coming year, so most likely I'd wait a while. No Chromecast/Roku support at launch seems pretty weak, though.

Nhex, Wednesday, 2 November 2016 19:13 (three years ago) link

Roku support was slated for January 2017 acc to some infographic I saw on their website but now cannot find (because their website seems to be three completely different websites cobbled together and filled with contradicting info).

Fluffy Saint-Bernard (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 2 November 2016 20:15 (three years ago) link

I just want to stream All That Jazz why is this so damn hard

Fluffy Saint-Bernard (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 2 November 2016 20:15 (three years ago) link

The latest from their Facebook flack to commenters is "early 2017" for Roku.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Wednesday, 2 November 2016 20:23 (three years ago) link

I didn't do an exact count, but it looks like roughly 900 films on the Criterion side. Since there are a lot that haven't migrated over from Hulu (yet), that means there are a lot of additions. Browsing around just a little bit I saw Blood Simple, the other 2 films in Wim Wenders' Road Trilogy to go with Alice in the Cities, some Harold Lloyd that hadn't been on Hulu, some New Wave.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Thursday, 3 November 2016 01:14 (three years ago) link

*British New Wave

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Thursday, 3 November 2016 01:16 (three years ago) link

When is this up for AppleTV?

Gukbe, Thursday, 3 November 2016 01:36 (three years ago) link

December, allegedly. (4th-gen only, nothing earlier)

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Thursday, 3 November 2016 01:41 (three years ago) link

Signed up last night; Hulu account expires tomorrow. Started with No Home Movie and Ornette: Made in America.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Sunday, 6 November 2016 19:26 (three years ago) link

cool, any glitches? I'll sign up soon but may wait a little bit if they're still working stuff out.

intheblanks, Sunday, 6 November 2016 21:33 (three years ago) link

I pushed the film last night to my 3rd-gen Apple TV using AirPlay and my iMac completely froze about 20 minutes into the movie; had to do a hard shutdown and restart. Everything has worked fine today, watching directly on the Mac. I'll try AirPlaying again tonight.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Sunday, 6 November 2016 22:17 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

D.A. Pennebaker's first film, Daybreak Express, is just the sort of wonderful tidbit that makes this site worth the money to me. I never would have seen it if they hadn't paired it with the feature it ran with in 1958 (Neame's The Horse's Mouth). Filmstruck isn't perfect (all the hosted intros I've seen so far are horrible), but it's got a lot going for it.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Monday, 21 November 2016 04:01 (three years ago) link

Hosted intros? Don't like the sound of that.

Anyone know if FilmStruck is 1080p, as opposed to Hulu's 720p?

Jazzbo, Monday, 21 November 2016 17:53 (three years ago) link

people on the Reddit Criterion/Filmstruck forums have complained about quality but Criterion-people seem borderline audiophilic in their craze for picture quality

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 21 November 2016 17:55 (three years ago) link

If they're concerned about picture quality they shouldn't be streaming

slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Monday, 21 November 2016 18:54 (three years ago) link

^^^^^

Fluffy Saint-Bernard (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 21 November 2016 19:53 (three years ago) link

AppleTV app is live

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Sunday, 4 December 2016 00:48 (three years ago) link

people on the Reddit Criterion/Filmstruck forums have complained about quality but Criterion-people seem borderline audiophilic in their craze for picture quality

They are basically the Steve Hoffman folk of the film world. BluRay era has been a golden age for system setup/region coding online dick-size contests.

a full playlist of presidential apocalypse jams (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 4 December 2016 05:56 (three years ago) link

A FB friend (who may be an ILXor, though I can't remember his screen name) who knows how to wrangle databases heard my plea last night and extracted the data from Filmstruck's "Browse All" source code that allowed me to make this:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TWx8-b5fbqenVr6r64hf3GktufPAgc61akPIvKoV2XA/edit?usp=sharing

A spreadsheet with Filmstruck's current offerings, sortable by title, director, year, runtime, country. Note 2 sheets, Basic Filmstruck and Criterion Channel. It may be less useful than the one I made of Criterion on Hulu, because films are being added and dropped much more frequently.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Sunday, 4 December 2016 16:24 (three years ago) link

Thanks for that!

A big shout out goes to the lamb chops, thos lamb chops (ulysses), Sunday, 4 December 2016 19:39 (three years ago) link

some surprising omissions: very little Minelli, only one Lubitsch, no Tod Browning, no Sturges, no Sirk, only a handful of Fellini, only one Cukor... plenty of oddball curation clearly swung by copyright ownership instead of best options too: four Robert Downey Sr. films but no Putney Swope?

A big shout out goes to the lamb chops, thos lamb chops (ulysses), Sunday, 4 December 2016 19:55 (three years ago) link

xpost
You're welcome! I'm going to try to keep up with arrivals and departures to keep the spreadsheet up to date, but they are being VERY stupid about announcing that sort of stuff (I found out Mulholland Dr. is leaving the site at the end of January, but not from Filmstruck itself) so if anyone wants to mention comings and goings on this thread, that'd be great.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Sunday, 4 December 2016 19:58 (three years ago) link

Nice list! Wow, that's a strong sales pitch...ugh. I'm really disappointed because the little Roku TV I bought this year for the living room has no option to turn off its (subtle, not always dstractingly present) soap-opera effect and by the time I was sure it wasn't my imagination, it was too late to return the thing. So now I'm sort of hesitant to plunk down for Filmstruck when it goes Roku since it'll be sabotaging the entire ''get myself educated in great film'' thing.

walk back to the halftime long, billy lynn, billy lynn (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 4 December 2016 22:28 (three years ago) link

You might want to double check your TV settings re: soap opera effect. A friend had this issue, I had to go in and change her TV's settings on every input.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Sunday, 4 December 2016 22:36 (three years ago) link

Oh believe me I've looked, through every menu and submenu. AFAICT it does not have any kind of off switch. It's definitely more pronounced on certain content but I suspect this may reflect arcane details of what framerate/medium the content provided to Netflix was inteded for. Robotech (the DVD version from the early 2000s) looked fine the entire way through. From Dusk Till Dawn made the actors look like plastic cutouts sliding wildly around the screen somehow moving a little faster than they should, especally any time the camera moved.

I keep praying for a firmware upgrade that fixes this but I doubt many folks are clamoring for it. Just pissed that the online reviews suggesting this was really the best option for this size TV never thought this was worth mentioning. Maybe earlier models didn't do this, or something.

walk back to the halftime long, billy lynn, billy lynn (Doctor Casino), Monday, 5 December 2016 00:21 (three years ago) link

It's classic that a thing happens and ILX's first reaction is to make a spreadsheet

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 5 December 2016 16:41 (three years ago) link

::shrug::
for me, it's an easier way to browse

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Monday, 5 December 2016 17:18 (three years ago) link

The in-app browsing system is not good! A spreadsheet is very helpful for this thing!

A big shout out goes to the lamb chops, thos lamb chops (ulysses), Monday, 5 December 2016 19:14 (three years ago) link

So the non-Criterion content is pretty meh, right? I was actually more interested in TCM-style films than Criterions.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 5 December 2016 19:34 (three years ago) link

Downhill Racer is only available this month, I see.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Thursday, 8 December 2016 21:39 (three years ago) link

There was never going to be a lot of content that people would think of as "TCM-like" on this, and it seemed like they let a lot of people think otherwise.

Chris L, Thursday, 8 December 2016 21:54 (three years ago) link

makes you wonder what TCM even has to do with it? Why not just Criterion: the App?

dan selzer, Thursday, 8 December 2016 21:57 (three years ago) link

Yeah, they've been unnecessarily vague about everything but the price.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Thursday, 8 December 2016 22:33 (three years ago) link

A friend recommended the Warner Movie Archive for classic American stuff but the library looks pretty shallow even for a one-studio service and reviews were bad.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Friday, 9 December 2016 03:03 (three years ago) link

FS has legit shit quality streaming and they told me they wont have chromecast support until sometime next year

kurt schwitterz, Friday, 9 December 2016 03:31 (three years ago) link

Shit quality like they're actually streaming in SD? Lots of compression artifacts? Stuff like that?

Fluffy Saint-Bernard (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 14:17 (two years ago) link

Lots added in the last few days.

Filmstruck:
Cairo Station
The Return of the Prodigal Son
The Sixth Day
The Sparrow
Saladin
Alexandria, Again and Forever
An Egyptian Story
The Land
Cairo As Told By Youssef Chahine

The Tall Blond Man With One Black Shoe
La Moutarde Me Monte au Nez
Paris 36

Criterion:
Koko: A Talking Gorilla
My Crasy Life
An Innocent Witch
A Story from Chikamatsu
Eternal Return, The
Endless Desire
Heat Wave; Oil-Hell Murder (both Hideo Gosha)
Poil de Carotte (Duvivier)
Lonely Passion of Judith Hearne, The
Ask Father (Harold Lloyd short)
Boudu Saved from Drowning
Oliver Twist (Lean)
Courage for Every Day
Uncle Yanco (Varda)
Fear of Fear
Mother Kusters Goes to Heaven
American Soldier, The
Junkopia (Chris Marker)

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 16:25 (two years ago) link

good stuff!

A big shout out goes to the lamb chops, thos lamb chops (ulysses), Monday, 26 December 2016 01:55 (two years ago) link

When they go Roku I think I'm totally in.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 26 December 2016 22:11 (two years ago) link

They said "early December" for the Apple TV and it was available on Dec. 1st. They're saying "early 2017" for Roku so I unrealistically have my hopes up for Jan. 1st.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Monday, 26 December 2016 22:52 (two years ago) link

Looking at that aforementioned list, it seemed like a million titles were leaving the service. Does that mean the Criterion Collection, assuming you pay for it, is a constant, but everything else comes and goes?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 December 2016 17:07 (two years ago) link

I think that's mostly true -- Downhill Racer and Mulholland Dr. are on short engagements on Criterion and I think they'll be gone from the site entirely.

I guess I should watch that huge collection of Chaplin Keystone/Essanay/Mutual shorts before they're gone on 4/21, because they're not on the Criterion side.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Tuesday, 27 December 2016 17:35 (two years ago) link

Even if you’re paying for the Criterion Collection, not all of the titles are available at once. I’m assuming they’re rotating that stuff, too.

Jazzbo, Thursday, 29 December 2016 15:21 (two years ago) link

I actually don't mind when streaming selections rotate, it helps me focus a bit better. The choice paralysis of the entire Criterion Collection, which would take how many years to watch their entirety, is overwhelming. Basically as it is with Netflix and Amazon not keep adding stuff to my watch list, and if it happens to be unavailable when I want to actually watch it, that's when I resort to downloading.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 29 December 2016 17:03 (two years ago) link

Yeah I can't imagine being in a situation on Filmstruck where it feels like there was nothing to watch. Rotate away.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 29 December 2016 17:09 (two years ago) link

23 films under 4 banners added on the Filmstruck side --

Alain Resnais
Errol Morris
Cinematography by Rudolph Maté
Behind the Iron Curtain

Withnail and I added on Criterion

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Saturday, 31 December 2016 03:52 (two years ago) link

Todd Haynes' Safe available until the end of this month, plus the supplemental bits (incl. Haynes' 1978 short "The Suicide") and the commentary track from the home release.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 14:03 (two years ago) link

Come on, Roku ...

Haven't read the thread, but I skimmed this piece from a while back, which was not hopeful: http://www.thestreamingadvisor.com/2016/04/26/another-film-buff-service-really-turner-is-getting-streaming-wrong/

I dunno. I hope it sticks around. But I've got to admit, from a so-called "cord-cutter" perspective, I'm not a fan of the slow creep of services. Netflix, plus Amazon (which, granted, comes with many other benefits), plus Filmstruck, plus internet, plus phone, plus satellite radio, etc. Something has to give, eventually.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 14:36 (two years ago) link

Putting a lot of energy into being a service for film buffs is like starting an athletic shoe company that specializes in turquoise equestrian gear.

This guy is full of shit. That analogy shows he is way outside Filmstruck's target demo and can't relate to anyone who's in it.

We just cancelled DirecTV on Sunday, freeing up $$$ to get what we actually want minus the home shopping and religious channels. I think that's a pretty common situation for cord- and dish-cutters.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 14:52 (two years ago) link

That's how I feel, basically. I'll spend, as least to some extent, just not on the 90% of sports and reality shows and other bullshit I don't want. But I do agree Filmstruck's target demo is somewhat limited. Not a growth model.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 14:55 (two years ago) link

really enjoying this service. agree it's not the biggest target demo, but every time i look for a movie on amazon or netflix it's just wall to wall shit so something like Filmstruck feels like an embarrassment of riches by comparison.

ryan, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 15:01 (two years ago) link

I had a brief Roku daydream that maybe Filmstruck's channel would be integrated with the Watch TCM channel, which according to TCM's device-activation page is "coming soon." But that's not really possible so I woke up.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 15:04 (two years ago) link

Yeah people who CUT DA CORD to live on Netflix is like throwing out all your records to listen to Pandora

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 15:06 (two years ago) link

My wife is always trying to get me to listen to Pandora "if you like x, then ..." channels or whatever, and I keep telling her, I have the music I like and if I want to hear music I like I'm going to put on music I like, not hope that the algorithm driving the Dolly Parton channel or whatever will stick to classic country and not follow "Coat of Many Colors" with, like, something from Florida Georgia Line's Christmas album.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 15:39 (two years ago) link

IDK cable TV seems to me to be at least 90% garbage or stuff totally outside my interests, at least whenever I'm at my relatives' for Christmas and spend any time surfing through it. So if I had that cord, cutting it would be more like getting rid of Pandora than getting rid of my record collection. I'm still interested in Filmstruck when it hits Roku and will almost certainly give it a try for a month or two, I mean it's cheaper than a single movie ticket or a few rentals so I don't have to watch THAT much for it to be worth it.

Might finally punt Netflix tbh - that's kept me looped in mostly because the person I share it with watches a fuckton of old TV shows on it while she's working, and because there's always at least ONE thing floating around in current rotation that I'm into, like my recent ill-advised Robotech binge. But my actual queue has had some of the same stuff in it for YEARS and if I've never felt compelled to finally sit down and watch it that's probably a sign. The overwhelming majority of new arrival stuff is about as interesting to me as what might be found clicking through the cable movie channels, nope, nope, nope, nope, ehhh maybe if I'm in the right mood, nope.....

mega pegasus for reindeer (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 16:15 (two years ago) link

DiretctTV/ATT app might be the best solution. Cut the cable cord (or just pay for internet), subscribe to DirectTV app for 30 bucks/mo and get all the live TV you want more or less? Just no DVR recording ability.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 16:25 (two years ago) link

At this point I'm basically paying $8 a month for the Internet and $10 a month for Netflix, but I guess I should also count going to the movies in my budget for these things...

mega pegasus for reindeer (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 17:24 (two years ago) link

$8 for internet? How do you do that?

My wife last night, when we were going through these things, was asking if I was getting enough value out of Netflix, and I was like, what do you mean, like how many things do I have to watch for it to be worth it? And she said, yeah, I don't know, maybe three to make it make more sense than a la carte purchases? And I said whether I watched enough or not was moot, because I've downloaded a shit ton of stuff over the years for nada, and if paying a few streaming services makes me feel better then dammit, I'd say they're a bargain.

And then she asked to watch The Crown, and I restrained myself from saying "see, you need Netflix!"

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 17:39 (two years ago) link

Ha, it's an unusual situation - it's a big house, so we're splitting reasonably fast broadband twelve ways. Generally haven't had any speed issues or anything.

mega pegasus for reindeer (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 18:02 (two years ago) link

I pay for Hulu, Netflix, Filmstruck and Fandor.

Because I like throwing away money.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 18:14 (two years ago) link

i am finally paring down but i had been doing hulu, netflix, filmstruck, amazon prime, hbo/showtime/cinemax/starz, cable, mubi

A big shout out goes to the lamb chops, thos lamb chops (ulysses), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 18:46 (two years ago) link

oh yeah I have amazon prime as well. My mom's HBO GO. And trying out seeso right now.

My biggest problem is I have Time Warner Cable which is now owned by Spectrum, and certain TV apps require a spectrium login but I don't have one.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 18:53 (two years ago) link

6 months ago: Amazon Prime, Netflix, Hulu, DirecTV - $125/month
Now: Amazon, Netflix, HBO, Filmstruck, Vue - $78/month

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 19:35 (two years ago) link

i pay for hulu and netflix

cancelled prime

if you want to penny pinch you can create new email addresses and sign up for free trials every so often

i opened a free trial acct on filmstruck and just cancelled

F♯ A♯ (∞), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 19:42 (two years ago) link

just cancelled this and Nightflight due to the terrible buffering problems on both platforms.

kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 19:51 (two years ago) link

my issue is i have a kingsize tivo and options like vue that don't allow me to timeshift aren't of much use.

A big shout out goes to the lamb chops, thos lamb chops (ulysses), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 19:58 (two years ago) link

Yeah, losing the ability to record from TCM is a big downside for me.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 20:09 (two years ago) link

I briefly borrowed a friend's dwindling Hulu subscription, since he didn't use it and was about to cancel, and I was shocked to find not just mandatory commercials, but mandatory shit commercials. It drove us nuts.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 20:49 (two years ago) link

That's only if you're cheap. If you pay the extra few bucks you don't get commercials, or maybe only a few commercials on certain big shows, but I never see commercials.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 20:53 (two years ago) link

ugh just gimme a damn roku or chromecast app ffs

Fluffy Saint-Bernard (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 21:23 (two years ago) link

I wish Criterion was still on Hulu so I could just, you know, watch this stuff on my TV.

spastic heritage, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 21:26 (two years ago) link

Why can I not just stream TCM's catalog? Even just their on demand movies

Heez, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 21:28 (two years ago) link

If you have Fire TV, you can.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 21:50 (two years ago) link

tbh, you can't so much. TCM's on demand program is pretty shitty.

A big shout out goes to the lamb chops, thos lamb chops (ulysses), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 22:14 (two years ago) link

yeah it's a shame. missing HD stuff too

Nhex, Thursday, 5 January 2017 03:05 (two years ago) link

Well this is a sucky development (from someone else's post at criterionforum.org):

http://i.imgur.com/dK6I3gZ.png

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Thursday, 5 January 2017 03:35 (two years ago) link

What's the hold up?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 5 January 2017 03:41 (two years ago) link

welp that's another six months I can spend ignoring this

Nhex, Thursday, 5 January 2017 03:45 (two years ago) link

oh fughaghdfhgkajrheruigh

does TCM at least have a Roku app I can use w/ a cable login?

Fluffy Saint-Bernard (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 5 January 2017 19:45 (two years ago) link

Nope -- it's "coming soon"

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Thursday, 5 January 2017 19:47 (two years ago) link

we have Vue, Amazon & Netflix, and a hd antenna for local tv. we just did a free trial on hulu to see how it compared to vue but even though hulu has tons of channels, they are very patchworky on what *shows* they offer which is annoying. idk, i'm not sold on it. for my own viewing choices, i think i prefer vue.

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 5 January 2017 19:55 (two years ago) link

fire tv is like 90 bucks if you really really want filmstruck now.

A big shout out goes to the lamb chops, thos lamb chops (ulysses), Friday, 6 January 2017 21:00 (two years ago) link

I mean, Ex0dus + access to a university library will tide me over until it's out, but I STILL WANT IT RN

Fluffy Saint-Bernard (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 7 January 2017 18:15 (two years ago) link

I just ordered a Fire TV box (not only for FilmStruck, but it was a motivator), so now I'm getting ready to sign up for FS. What's the verdict from people who are on it, in terms of the different plans? I'm inclined to just go ahead and do the year subscription, which comes out to a little more than $8/month, but is there any reason to do a monthly plan in terms of waiting for them to work out technical issues or anything else?

Also, how good is the picture quality of their stream? Comparable to Netflix?

i just put on 8 1/2 on mute while listening to music and i was just thinking it looks great.

ryan, Sunday, 8 January 2017 17:47 (two years ago) link

(im running ethernet into an apple tv)

ryan, Sunday, 8 January 2017 17:48 (two years ago) link

Also, how good is the picture quality of their stream? Comparable to Netflix?

Yeah, though some of the transfers of minor films that don't rate a restoration are horrible. I watched Big Deal on Madonna Street last night and it looked bad, but not because of the stream. I should go ahead and bump my subscription from monthly to the annual price.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Sunday, 8 January 2017 17:53 (two years ago) link

BTW, 25 films added Friday on the Filmstruck side under 5 banners:
— Paris, City of Love (including Billy Wilder's Irma La Douce and Martin Ritt's Paris Blues, for the people who want more TCM-type stuff)
— Directed by Terry Gilliam
— Directed by Dušan Makavjev
— the Qatsi trilogy
— The Yugoslav Wars and their Aftermath

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Sunday, 8 January 2017 17:59 (two years ago) link

Cool, thx. Guess I'll do the annual and see how it goes! I figured there would be variations in picture quality depending on the prints.

Logorama, the short added for today's short + feature, is one of the funniest things I've seen in a while.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Tuesday, 10 January 2017 23:13 (two years ago) link

Very excited that Ingmar Bergman's "The Magic Flute" (1975) was added to the Criterion section this week. Always wanted to see that.

Jazzbo, Wednesday, 11 January 2017 13:19 (two years ago) link

Kiarostami's Certified Copy added on the Criterion side. Supplements include his 1977 feature The Report.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Wednesday, 11 January 2017 13:35 (two years ago) link

All the Kurosawas are leaving the Filmstruck side after this coming Friday, but Ran is the only one not on the Criterion side as well.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Monday, 16 January 2017 03:46 (two years ago) link

I worry by the time this thing is actually available on Roku or Chromecast it will have completely lost momentum and be on the brink of folding

Fluffy Saint-Bernard (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 16 January 2017 15:10 (two years ago) link

I was going to watch Ran tonight but it's already gone — all the Kurosawas were taken down from the Filmstruck side sometime during the day today.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Friday, 20 January 2017 00:36 (two years ago) link

Somebody on criterionforum.org figured out that the URL of Filmstruck's bundles/banners ended with steadily increasing numbers, so they counted ahead and found this for the next Tuesday Short + Feature:
https://watch.filmstruck.com/#!/bundle/1520000290

So I kept going and found what looks like the next Friday Double Feature, two Dirk Bogarde films:
https://watch.filmstruck.com/#!/bundle/1520000292

And the next Observations on Film Art, Kristin Thompson on landscape in Kiarostami:
https://watch.filmstruck.com/#!/bundle/1520000293

I tried posting about those last two at the Criterion Forum, but as a noob, my first five posts have to be approved by a moderator, and this one was disapproved because it "does not make a contribution to the ongoing discussion."

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Saturday, 21 January 2017 12:29 (two years ago) link

The bundle placeholders are there for the next month's worth of Tuesday, Wednesday and Friday specials, but I won't spoil anything unless y'all want me to.

One intriguing thing was something called the "C.R. Barker Collection." The only thing google brought up for that name was co-author of a biography of Erich Maria Remarque.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Friday, 27 January 2017 14:13 (two years ago) link

oh hey chromecast

Fluffy Saint-Bernard (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 3 February 2017 04:02 (two years ago) link

Contemporary Israeli Cinema, John Ford in the 30s, and Chantal Akerman are leaving the Filmstruck side later this week. Which films in those are must-not-miss?

scattered, smothered, covered, diced and chunked (WilliamC), Tuesday, 14 February 2017 14:03 (two years ago) link

Akerman's News From Home is pretty fascinating.

Chris L, Tuesday, 14 February 2017 14:11 (two years ago) link

Fortunately that one's staying on the Criterion side.

scattered, smothered, covered, diced and chunked (WilliamC), Tuesday, 14 February 2017 14:32 (two years ago) link

Neo-noir, Animation for Adults, Made for the U.N., Seventeen Moments of Spring banners leaving this week. Ace in the Hole leaves early next week. BTW, films leave at midnight GMT of the date listed, which means 7 p.m. EST on the day before. Sneaky fuckers.

scattered, smothered, covered, diced and chunked (WilliamC), Monday, 20 February 2017 13:34 (two years ago) link

Roku?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 20 February 2017 14:26 (two years ago) link

"spring"

scattered, smothered, covered, diced and chunked (WilliamC), Monday, 20 February 2017 14:29 (two years ago) link

are they still having massive buffering issues?

Fluffy Saint-Bernard (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 20 February 2017 15:13 (two years ago) link

I haven't had any myself, but I've been reading about them. I get a lot of hangups at the login process, but if I open a new tab and retry it, I always get in the 2nd time.

scattered, smothered, covered, diced and chunked (WilliamC), Monday, 20 February 2017 15:36 (two years ago) link

I have HBO, PBS, Sundance, etc., and FilmStruck streams better than any of them on Apple TV.

Jazzbo, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 00:58 (two years ago) link

added Putney Swope which is a lot of fun

removed from the rain drops and drop tops of experience (ulysses), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 17:58 (two years ago) link

Watched it tonight -- great.

Spoiler: tomorrow's Criterion Collection Edition is going to be Guy Maddin's My Winnipeg.

scattered, smothered, covered, diced and chunked (WilliamC), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 03:31 (two years ago) link

+ 15 supplements, holy shit

https://watch.filmstruck.com/#!/bundle/1520000315

scattered, smothered, covered, diced and chunked (WilliamC), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 03:33 (two years ago) link

Roku pushed back to May.

scattered, smothered, covered, diced and chunked (WilliamC), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 13:41 (two years ago) link

Interest in this service pushed back even further. Why the delay?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 13:44 (two years ago) link

Isn't Roku just a delivery vector?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 13:44 (two years ago) link

I have no idea why, and good luck prying any info out of them. Fuckers. I bought a Roku instead of Apple TV because I thought "oh a couple of months delay between device rollouts won't be too big a deal."

scattered, smothered, covered, diced and chunked (WilliamC), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 14:04 (two years ago) link

you still made the right choice

Nhex, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 17:10 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Finally watched Come and See. Caring for a newborn it took me about two weeks of watching it in 5 to 20 minute chunks. Not ideal, but wow, what a movie.

dan selzer, Saturday, 1 April 2017 14:24 (two years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Per help desk chat a few minutes ago, Roku availability is now "late May to mid-June."

20-lol pileup (WilliamC), Tuesday, 25 April 2017 19:06 (two years ago) link

four weeks pass...

I was irritated that Happy Together disappeared from Amazon before I had a chance to see it, but Filmstruck is starting a program of LGBTQ films on June 2nd that includes it.

A JIHAD FOR LOVE
PARTING GLANCES
WORD IS OUT
THE TIMES OF HARVEY MILK
BORN IN FLAMES
THE WATERMELON WOMAN
JEFFREY
ANOTHER COUNTRY
STEAM: THE TURKISH BATH
QUERELLE
WILD REEDS
VICTIM
HAPPY TOGETHER

20-lol pileup (WilliamC), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 18:29 (two years ago) link

The Roku channel is live.

a warm bowl of soap (WilliamC), Monday, 5 June 2017 20:09 (two years ago) link

lmao it's amazing how little I've grown to care about this. I still never even signed up for a free trial. Have the buffering issues improved? I wonder how they're doing business-wise.

he not like the banana (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 13:55 (two years ago) link

i signed up a couple weeks ago, and I'm really enjoying it. I haven't had any issues with buffering at all.

intheblanks, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 14:03 (two years ago) link

No buffering problems for me. Once a week or so it'll hang up on me moving from one part of the service to another, like from Criterion main screen to my watchlist, but overall it's pretty smooth. I wish their color scheme wasn't so black/white/gray – they could use the red from their logo to indicate selection and it would be a lot easier to navigate.

The biggest problem with this service is that there's too damn much to choose from. Between the Filmstruck side and Criterion side, they have about 1700 films, enough choice to be paralyzing. Which is great, but coming up with navigation strategies other than just looking at their featured banners is on the viewer – they don't make things any easier.

a warm bowl of soap (WilliamC), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 14:13 (two years ago) link

Of all the apps I use on Apple TV, FilmStruck streams the best; rarely have I had any buffering issues. The interface is also gorgeous and well-organized.

Jazzbo, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 14:25 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trap_music

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 25 June 2017 02:17 (two years ago) link

Ha, whoops. So it's finally available for Roku. Is it still hemorrhaging content beyond the Criterion Collection?

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 25 June 2017 02:17 (two years ago) link

I'm not sure what you mean. On the Filmstruck side, every Thursday a 2-3 banners are dropped, and every Friday 2-3 banners are added. They said from the beginning that films would be rotated in and out; they stay steady at ~500 films, and the Criterion channel is up to ~1200.

Mr. Crackpots (WilliamC), Sunday, 25 June 2017 03:03 (two years ago) link

Gotcha. Just wanted to make sure that was the strategy rather than a struggled to show there's value in Filmstruck beyond the CC. When I looked at the site yesterday (since it just became available for Roku and I'm out of the country I haven't signed up yet) I saw this long list of movies leaving Filmstruck, and I was bummed, because as great as the CC is (and honestly there's little more a film fan needs), there was all sorts of good stuff leaving. So as long as new good stuff comes in and not, say, a bunch of shit, I'm cool with rotation.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 25 June 2017 12:18 (two years ago) link

There is a huge amount leaving in the next month, it's true – Resnais, Sayles and Errol Morris alone in one week.

Mr. Crackpots (WilliamC), Sunday, 25 June 2017 12:54 (two years ago) link

Guess I should buy a subscription!

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 25 June 2017 12:58 (two years ago) link

Better hurry, those three banners (plus the "Behind the Iron Curtain" banner that includes Petzold's Barbara and the Cinematography by Rudolph Mate banner) are leaving this Thursday evening; 26 films total, 8 of which will stay on the Criterion side.
https://help.filmstruck.com/hc/en-us/articles/115000301047-Movies-Leaving-FilmStruck

Mr. Crackpots (WilliamC), Sunday, 25 June 2017 13:07 (two years ago) link

I'm loving this. Cancelled cable (which I mostly had for TCM). Various bugs exist but they are obvious & will be ironed out. After dealing with the screaming red hell of Netflix it's so nice to have a soothing gray-colored adulty service, a fairly curated list where nearly everything is good.

The Thnig, Sunday, 25 June 2017 17:44 (two years ago) link

OK, signed up. Confused, though - it's not the complete Criterion Collection? They have pretty much everything from Kieslowski, for example, but not Dekalog, which is a bummer.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 26 June 2017 05:25 (two years ago) link

Yeah things cycle in and out. I thought that would bum me out -- how incredible it would be to have all 800 of those. But the curation has worked out really well; I don't go scrolling for choices for 2 hours. The key might be bookmarking this link:

https://www.filmstruck.com/coming-soon

The Thnig, Monday, 26 June 2017 18:28 (two years ago) link

Pretty good July coming on the Criterion side. http://criterioncast.com/news/all-of-the-films-joining-filmstrucks-criterion-channel-this-july

Mr. Crackpots (WilliamC), Monday, 26 June 2017 19:19 (two years ago) link

I think we may have answered this before but does anything ever *leave* the Criterion Channel?

he not like the banana (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 26 June 2017 20:32 (two years ago) link

Not unless they lose the rights.

Chris L, Monday, 26 June 2017 20:43 (two years ago) link

Some stuff is added for very short streaming engagements. Sometimes they make note of it on the film's banner (Downhill Racer, Ace in the Hole, Heaven's Gate, Safe, the 1961 Something Wild) and sometimes they don't (Bitter Victory, the 1986 Something Wild). Flight of the Red Balloon and Blow Out came and went but I can't remember if they had a "limited engagement" note.

Tourneur's Cat People is leaving Friday but there's no note on the banner. 12 Angry Men is leaving on 7/31 but there's no note. I think the trick is to look for things that are leaving on the last day of the month no matter what day of the week that is -- those tend to be the few films leaving the Criterion channel.

Mr. Crackpots (WilliamC), Monday, 26 June 2017 21:22 (two years ago) link

Yeah, the quick cycling in and out has forced me to forgo the whole "100 movies in my queue om nom nom" aspirational viewing habit that streaming has helped create in me, and just enjoy something they have at the moment. It was annoying at first but now ultimately feels a little liberating?

Sutcliffe Juugin' (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 26 June 2017 21:29 (two years ago) link

And you can always lie about watching it!

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 June 2017 21:29 (two years ago) link

xpost Though all I've really watched recently is 'Blood Simple' :/

Sutcliffe Juugin' (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 26 June 2017 21:31 (two years ago) link

i'm into this! last night i watched Peter Weir's THE PLUMBER and it was great

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 26 June 2017 21:32 (two years ago) link

It was annoying at first but now ultimately feels a little liberating?

Yeah, with 1500+ movies to choose from I'm def glad to have a little push in any direction. I might have half-assed around and never seen A Separation if it hadn't had an expiration date. -- xp

Mr. Crackpots (WilliamC), Monday, 26 June 2017 21:36 (two years ago) link

Yeah, there must be some sort of psychological explanation for it - choice paralysis? - but I do know that when Netflix started hiding when its movies were leaving I started watching less on Netflix.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 26 June 2017 21:50 (two years ago) link

imho all services of this type should default to a view of six movies picked at random from your list, with nothing else to click down to or scroll past unless you enter a special code or beat a minigame or something. really focus on those six, to simulate your friend meeting back up with you after you've both been walking around the video store for half an hour: it's gonna be one of these. pick one!

﴿→ ☺ (Doctor Casino), Monday, 26 June 2017 23:39 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

One of Kenji Mizoguchi's only 2 color films, Princess Yang Kwei-Fei, is added on the Criterion side.

Cannibal Adderley (WilliamC), Friday, 14 July 2017 16:29 (two years ago) link

three weeks pass...

A "Directed by Terry Zwigoff" banner's going up this evening, including Crumb, my #1 in the documentary poll Clemenza ran.

I can see by the look on your face, you've got ring worm. (WilliamC), Friday, 4 August 2017 17:40 (two years ago) link

I was about to finally pull the trigger on this the other day before realizing that my laptop is the only device I can use to watch it. Which is pretty effing lame. So no-go, I guess.

I'm Calling My Loyer! (Old Lunch), Friday, 4 August 2017 17:44 (two years ago) link

i recently have been enjoying the "actuality dramas" of Allan King -- Come On, Children and Warrenville so far -- and the short Asparagus, which was super weird and enjoyable.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Saturday, 5 August 2017 00:20 (two years ago) link

Was thinking of pulling the trigger until I learned that, as of today, my NYPL card entitles me to ten Criterions per calendar month.

Barkis Garvey (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 5 August 2017 00:25 (two years ago) link

We just added this the other day so haven't actually watched a ton on it. I watched In A Lonely Place and On The Bowery earlier this week as well as a Les Blank short I hadn't seen before.

ian, Saturday, 5 August 2017 00:31 (two years ago) link

I'm interested in the Italian crime TV drama that is on there - has anyone watched it?

ian, Saturday, 5 August 2017 00:33 (two years ago) link

Alex Lifeson is one of the teens in Come On, Children!
Not that this would make you want to watch it but it's pretty good regardless

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Saturday, 5 August 2017 00:34 (two years ago) link

i should say "the teen who become known as Alex Lifeson"
he had a different name back then
there's even a scene with his parents about his lack of prospects as a guitar player

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Saturday, 5 August 2017 00:35 (two years ago) link

Ian, It sounded like Some More Sopranos, so I passed.

LL, I loved Warrendale and A Married Couple -- I'll add Come On Children and Dying at Grace to my queue (which is already too long).

I can see by the look on your face, you've got ring worm. (WilliamC), Saturday, 5 August 2017 00:37 (two years ago) link

The bad writing and editing on their editorial side drives me nuts -- "Alice Kominsky Crumb," "Christopher Plumber" guuuhhhh

I can see by the look on your face, you've got ring worm. (WilliamC), Saturday, 5 August 2017 00:40 (two years ago) link

Yeah, some of the copy is pretty dire.

Decided to watch "Sapphire" this evening.

ian, Saturday, 5 August 2017 00:44 (two years ago) link

i was afraid to watch A Married Couple!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Saturday, 5 August 2017 00:52 (two years ago) link

I approached it as sort of a...hysterically funny horror movie.

I can see by the look on your face, you've got ring worm. (WilliamC), Saturday, 5 August 2017 01:00 (two years ago) link

I haven't had too much time to dive in, watched one of the Apu films, but I'm glad I signed up. I wanted to pick a movie to watch with my older daughter, and I was going to give her the choice of Oliver Twist or Grand Illusion or Seven Samurai. I pressured her into the last, and while she seemed to enjoy it the enthusiasm was limited and relative, since I think we only saw 30 minutes of it (ha). But it's a start! Grand Illusion (for subtitles) and Oliver Twist (for craft) might be more her speed.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 5 August 2017 01:07 (two years ago) link

Watched Visions (the movie about Hildegard) and Koko: A Talking Gorilla (1978, pre-kitten) would recommend both.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 16:49 (two years ago) link

Vision, seconded. Not a Criterion, I don't think, but would also recommend a somewhat similar film, I, The Worst of All/Yo, la peor de todas, which is about Sor Juana Inés de la Cruz.

Barkis Garvey (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 16:57 (two years ago) link

ooh that sounds good. i'm kind of nunned out after that one but i'm sure my appetite will come back ;)

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 16:58 (two years ago) link

Best to steer clear of Black Narcissus for the time being as well then

Barkis Garvey (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 17:07 (two years ago) link

I should join.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 17:08 (two years ago) link

Black Narcissus is second to nun.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 17:08 (two years ago) link

^^^ lol

I should join.

― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, August 8, 2017 12:08 PM

Its only real drawback is a paralyzing surfeit of choices.

WilliamC, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 17:29 (two years ago) link

for me it is the creeping feeling that i am hiding from reality in an artsy hole, but if i have to hide in a hole it's not a bad one to steal away to

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 17:31 (two years ago) link

oh also we started watching Bigger Than Life, which I am totally enjoying as well

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 17:32 (two years ago) link

would buy a "yay for the artsy hole" t-shirt

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 17:50 (two years ago) link

three weeks pass...

I may only get to watch a few things on here a month, but I love having the channel and its choices.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 30 August 2017 03:40 (two years ago) link

started watching ROMANZO CRIMINALE, the Italian crime series I mentioned upthread. I like it a lot. I never watched the Sopranos so I can't say much in that regard, but the vibe is good, there's a lot going on, and it's nice to see all the footage of Italy, where I have never been. Certainly my interest in this show is DEFINITELY in its basis on a Giancarlo di Cataldo novel -- the novel hasn't been published in the US (yet?) but there's a UK edition. I'm reading right now a translation of another di Cataldo novel, Suburra, which I'm loving. So I'm kind of on the hardboiled Italian crime vibe right now. And over the last few years I've read tons of Massimo carlotto.. anyhoo, rambling here, but I'm definitely "on board" with this show for now. I wish I knew more about the history of communism v fascism in italy..

ian, Thursday, 7 September 2017 03:34 (two years ago) link

I know not many series are on Filmstruck, but it's really atrocious trying to navigate these episodes. They aren't in order no matter how you look at them, when you finish an episode it seems you just have to search for the episodes or browse for them. Sigh.

ian, Thursday, 7 September 2017 03:35 (two years ago) link

hooked on RC btw.

ian, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 19:11 (two years ago) link

Excited for all the Godards I've never found streaming before, added today.

WilliamC, Friday, 15 September 2017 17:37 (two years ago) link

One month engagements of Crit collected editions for October will include On the Waterfront and Harold and Maude.

WilliamC, Monday, 25 September 2017 23:58 (two years ago) link

All Night Long -- British-made take on Othello, set in London jazz world, real-time during a party -- is quite good, and I'd never heard of it.

The Thnig, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 16:36 (two years ago) link

i want to get this for the t.v. in the bedroom but i would have to hook my computer up to the t.v. and i hate doing stuff like that.

my t.v. gets netflix (which we subscribe to) and youtube. so i watch netflix. and every film noir movie on youtube.

maybe i will go full roku someday.

scott seward, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 16:43 (two years ago) link

( i do still miss criterion on hulu...which we have downstairs on the PS4...)

scott seward, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 16:44 (two years ago) link

can you get a chromecast and stream it to your tv?

wmlynch, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 17:33 (two years ago) link

I've been enjoying Kanopy with my LA library card. It has most Criterion films streaming, although not as many as Filmstruck. That said, it's free.

Spencer Chow, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 17:43 (two years ago) link

For a few weeks, the Filmstruck channel on Roku had a massive bug — going from the app to the Roku home screen caused the device to do a hard restart. It was still doing it as late as last Friday but it looks like they've fixed it.

WilliamC, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 18:33 (two years ago) link

scott - chromecast. get it. no computer necessary.

kurt schwitterz, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 18:38 (two years ago) link

i find their practice of using b/w photos for color movies really distracting
idk why they would do this

we watched Norma Rae recently and it was great

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 26 September 2017 18:38 (two years ago) link

Scott, a roku box is really cheap... like, one wall record cheap.

ian, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 22:26 (two years ago) link

We got kanopy like a month after we subscribe to filmstruck. There are some hoops to jump through for the former though. I think you can only watch 10 movies a month, and you have to watch them within 3 days.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 22:29 (two years ago) link

Yes, it's not straightforward, but again, free.

Sadly, it's been a very long time since a 10 movie/month limit would be a problem for me!

Spencer Chow, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 22:44 (two years ago) link

i've got kanopy through the university, but it requires a vpn which then makes chromecasting impossible.

wmlynch, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 22:44 (two years ago) link

Kanopy is great tho how many plays you get depends on the deal struck by your library/institution. However the Roku app, at least on my Roku TV, is complete garbage - buggy as hell, awkward to navigate (tho not as bad as nu-Hulu) and the subtitle tracks are like 15 seconds in advance of the film, rendering all foreign films unwatchable. They've told me by email they're working on it. :-/

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 23:40 (two years ago) link

Romanzo Criminale is leaving on Sept 29, FYI. I check this page periodically: https://www.filmstruck.com/us/coming-soon

Chris L, Wednesday, 27 September 2017 07:26 (two years ago) link

The Ross McElwee docs are leaving in a week, you don't want to miss those. They are unique.

The Thnig, Wednesday, 27 September 2017 07:27 (two years ago) link

"(tho not as bad as nu-Hulu)"

OMG, this is one of those cases where i really think a company is doing something to fuck with me personally. like they know it will drive me insane.

scott seward, Wednesday, 27 September 2017 14:16 (two years ago) link

i will look into chrome/roku. i probably don't need more ways to watch hours of t.v. but i do miss having criterion at my fingertips even if i often ended up watching more episodes of Nikita when i meant to watch some chantal akerman movie i hadn't seen.

scott seward, Wednesday, 27 September 2017 14:19 (two years ago) link

xpost yeah what in the fuck is wrong with them? i had only recently gotten oldHulu installed cause spotify just declared I had a free subscription (tho with such an obscene quantity of commercials that watching TV shows isn't worth fucking with), had fun loading up my watchlist with MOR blockbuster rental quality stuff, and then like three days later it morphed into this unbrowsable monstrosity

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 27 September 2017 14:20 (two years ago) link

was wondering about the TCM content and looking at the website i can't help but notice that there are only five westerns listed. which is kinda sad.

scott seward, Wednesday, 27 September 2017 14:24 (two years ago) link

i don't know why companies feel the need to do that. hulu wasn't perfect but jesus there wasn't anything really wrong with how it looked and it was easy to use. i'm guessing they made it more phone-friendly in some way that escapes me? i don't watch stuff on phones.

scott seward, Wednesday, 27 September 2017 14:26 (two years ago) link

i think everyone i know had the same reaction to nu-hulu. i think it's an result of people needing to keep their jobs and ABC (always be creating) -- sometimes a thing just needs maintenance, not innovation. this is the world we live in i guess.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 27 September 2017 14:39 (two years ago) link

I've been having trouble with streaming on my Roku TV recently. Tried to watch "Tabloid" but the sound wouldn't synch and the picture kept breaking up. Everything streams fine on my AppleTV.

Jazzbo, Thursday, 28 September 2017 13:03 (two years ago) link

crikey...

https://www.britbox.com/

scott seward, Friday, 29 September 2017 14:06 (two years ago) link

oh.. i guess i should have read this thread a couple days ago.
now how do i see the end of romanzo criminale??

hulu SUCKS i want to cancel it honestly.

also anytime i try to go to the homescreen from filmstruck i'm still getting a reset..

ian, Saturday, 30 September 2017 04:07 (two years ago) link

I had that problem on my Roku but it seems to have been fixed in the last 2-3 days.

WilliamC, Saturday, 30 September 2017 12:13 (two years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Also in the "classy" movie-streaming market: has anyone tried Fandor? They're doing some promotion through MoviePass to try and hook me on $2/month... that's pretty cheap so I probably should just say what the heck, but I already feel like with Kanopy I do have a reasonable number of "good movies" on easy tap...

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 26 October 2017 18:27 (two years ago) link

I have fandor and filmstruck but never watch either because I'm busy.

however, fandor is great, more cult and avant garde type stuff. midnight movies, experimental film etc.

dan selzer, Thursday, 26 October 2017 18:42 (two years ago) link

Some great stuff on filmstruck right now. I had totally forgotten about A Boy and His Dog, which I have somehow never seen. Boy, George Miller sure borrowed a lot from this. Unless it's all in the novella.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 26 October 2017 19:03 (two years ago) link

couldn't get more than a few minutes into that one when my friend and I tried it a while back :-/ liked the setting and stuff but the sexual violence was very jarring and jarringly handled, for us.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 26 October 2017 19:35 (two years ago) link

FilmStruck & Shudder -- I need nothing else to subsist!

The Thnig, Thursday, 26 October 2017 20:49 (two years ago) link

xpost The sexual violence is one of the things George Miller took.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 26 October 2017 20:52 (two years ago) link

They're adding Twin Peaks: FWWM on Nov. 16th as a CC Edition, and it will include The Missing Pieces.

http://onvideo.org/criterion-channel-announces-nov-programming/

WilliamC, Friday, 27 October 2017 13:33 (two years ago) link

Imamura's The Pornographers is one I was just checking for the other day; nice to see it will be available soon.

bernard snowy, Friday, 27 October 2017 20:10 (two years ago) link

I couldn't get my Filmstruck Roku app to load today ...

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 27 October 2017 20:17 (two years ago) link

Even though the more canonical arthouse films tend to be on Filmstruck, I've watched more things on Fandor more for some reason. Maybe its eclecticism is more inviting. It probably helps that I've never had issues with Fandor on the Roku, where Filmstruck wasn't on it for quite a while; just a few days ago I needed to log in to the Filmstruck app again.

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Saturday, 28 October 2017 01:36 (two years ago) link

cool, thanks y'all! I'll mull it. though tbh the moviepass itself keeps me busy enough so maybe this shd just be a year of hitting the theater as much as possible

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 28 October 2017 01:40 (two years ago) link

filmstruck takes fucking forever to load lol

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Saturday, 28 October 2017 10:07 (two years ago) link

FilmStruck & Shudder -- I need nothing else to subsist!

My man

"the fgti incident?" (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 30 October 2017 13:59 (two years ago) link

FilmStruck and Shudder exist and are totally affordable but the media elite is tweeting about spending their weekends watching 8 hours of "Guys, E.T. Rubiks Cube Toto"

"the fgti incident?" (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 30 October 2017 14:01 (two years ago) link

shudder is such an incredible deal

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 30 October 2017 15:39 (two years ago) link

I'm in. Just watched only my second Naruse.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 4 November 2017 21:36 (two years ago) link

filmstruck takes fucking forever to load lol

― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40)

this is a problem yeah

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 4 November 2017 21:37 (two years ago) link

Sympathies to everyone who's had that problem, but it zips along for me. Even when it crashed my Roku whenever I used the app, it loaded fine and let me finish watching something first.

WilliamC, Saturday, 4 November 2017 22:14 (two years ago) link

the Henson shorts are super enjoyable
Drum West especially, but all the ones I watched were good.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Saturday, 4 November 2017 22:15 (two years ago) link

I just finished a work production deadline and am looking forward to diving in to a lot of Henson. And Haneke, but probably not at the same time.

Alfred, if you find the idea of browsing 1500 titles to be just too much, here's a thing I maintain: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TWx8-b5fbqenVr6r64hf3GktufPAgc61akPIvKoV2XA/edit#gid=556920267

WilliamC, Saturday, 4 November 2017 22:17 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Ian, it looks like Romanzo Criminale is back for about five weeks.
https://www.filmstruck.com/us/watch/bundle/1520000202

WilliamC, Friday, 24 November 2017 14:05 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

18 Bill Morrison films yessss

WilliamC, Friday, 8 December 2017 17:28 (two years ago) link

thanks for the spreadsheet william ... this is nice!

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, 8 December 2017 19:03 (two years ago) link

My pleasure! It was a case of "if you want Filmstruck to do something right, you've got to do it yourself." Probably obvious, but red = expired and blue/yellow = I've seen. Light green = started it, hated it, bailed early.

WilliamC, Friday, 8 December 2017 19:43 (two years ago) link

haha now I want to see what you light greened

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, 8 December 2017 19:47 (two years ago) link

Not too many. Track 29, Desert Hearts and Rendez-vous were real cases of 'ugh, crap." With Sweet Movie it was a case of "ok, interesting hammer but could you stop hitting me with it?" and I just didn't have the stomach to stay with Benny's Video last week, the USA has my nerves on edge.

WilliamC, Friday, 8 December 2017 20:23 (two years ago) link

You didn't like Desert Hearts? I enjoyed that one.

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, 8 December 2017 20:34 (two years ago) link

When I saw Sweet Movie i was in a class called The Films of Dusan Mackavejev being taught by an expert on eastern european cinema, and his giving us a thorough background and understanding of yugoslavian history made Sweet Movie a lot more enjoyable.

dan selzer, Friday, 8 December 2017 21:08 (two years ago) link

Mainly I thought the acting was terrible -- kind of baffled at the praise for Shaver in the lead. xp

I think I would have enjoyed Sweet Movie with added history/context.

WilliamC, Friday, 8 December 2017 21:11 (two years ago) link

Have really been enjoying the Bill Morrison collection!! Who By Water especially because 1) Vuh-y score and 2) people basically nonstop staring in the camera https://vimeo.com/48669901

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 11 December 2017 23:05 (one year ago) link

Yes, I'm loving the Morrison. Were you at Big Ears the year they showed The Great Flood with Bill Frisell and band doing the score live? I don't remember if that was this year or 2015 or earlier.

WilliamC, Tuesday, 12 December 2017 01:19 (one year ago) link

That's a shame WilliamC, I thought Desert Hearts was really nice. Loved Shaver especially, but both leads were quite brave and sweet IMO

Nhex, Tuesday, 12 December 2017 02:16 (one year ago) link

WMC - No! I didn't see that!! Dang

We have watched 3-4 of them so far, and Porch is the only one I was unmoved by. It was fine but not essential.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 14:08 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

The UK version, Filmstruck Curzon, is up and running.
https://www.filmstruck.com/uk/#

WilliamC, Thursday, 8 February 2018 19:40 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

FilmStruck, Turner’s streaming service for movies, is partnering with Warner Bros. Digital Networks (WBDN) and adding some new features that will expand its film library to some Hollywood classics. As part of the venture, Warner Archive will sunset its service effective immediately, with current subscribers being transitioned to a FilmStruck subscription.

Beginning today, FilmStruck subscribers in the US will get hundreds of new movies and streaming access to films from the Warner Bros. classic film library, including Casablanca, Rebel Without a Cause, Singin’ In the Rain, Citizen Kane, The Music Man, Bringing Up Baby, The Thin Man, Cat People, A Night At The Opera, An American In Paris, and Who’s Afraid Of Virginia Woolf?

http://deadline.com/2018/02/filmstruck-adds-warner-bros-films-as-warner-archive-sunsets-1202301824/

WilliamC, Monday, 26 February 2018 17:14 (one year ago) link

Awesome, how about Leone?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 26 February 2018 18:48 (one year ago) link

no results found

WilliamC, Monday, 26 February 2018 18:58 (one year ago) link

"Beginning today, FilmStruck subscribers in the US will get hundreds of new movies" is an error in Deadline's story. Filmstruck's Tumblr has this: "We’re also adding hundreds of classic films over the next few months."

Today's additions are a 22-film TCM Select bundle, a 23-film Bette Davis bundle, and the complete Astaire-Rogers (10 films).

WilliamC, Monday, 26 February 2018 19:04 (one year ago) link

When the TCM Select stuff rolled out this week, I decided it was too much to keep updating my spreadsheet, which I was adding to line by line. Providence (and Reddit) sent along some guy who knows his web-scraping shit and created this a couple of days ago: hxxp://www.disobey.com/wiki/FilmStruck

WilliamC, Friday, 2 March 2018 22:54 (one year ago) link

bookmarked, thanks!

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, 2 March 2018 23:11 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

Again and again lately I'm thwarted by Filmstruck. Decalogue's not there, and there's no Spinal Tap; both are ostensibly Criterion, both currently AWOL. Then they get the big WB collection, but no Treasure of the Sierra Madre, no Sergio Leone, no etc. Obviously there are tons of other options there, but still bummed.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 15 April 2018 01:40 (one year ago) link

There are plenty of Criterion movies that aren't there, but they get rotated in and out. Same for WB.

Jazzbo, Monday, 16 April 2018 17:54 (one year ago) link

Yeah, I know. I just haven't seen them rotated in for a long, long while.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 16 April 2018 17:55 (one year ago) link

Spinal Tap Criterion is out of print, which might mean they don't have the rights anymore

like æ duce says, smell my anvil vapre (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 16 April 2018 17:59 (one year ago) link

Criterion Spinal Tap is literally why I bought a DVD player way back when.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 16 April 2018 18:01 (one year ago) link

Why don't you watch your DVD then?

like æ duce says, smell my anvil vapre (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 16 April 2018 18:09 (one year ago) link

No longer own a DVD player. Well, it's somewhere, but I don't know where it is. I think So: laziness/convenience. And not wanting or needing DVDs is why I subscribe to Filmstruck/Netflix in the first place.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 16 April 2018 18:13 (one year ago) link

You can currently rent it from Apple, Microsoft, Vudu or the PlayStation Store

like æ duce says, smell my anvil vapre (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 16 April 2018 18:21 (one year ago) link

Or you can get some nerds to act out all the scenes for you

President Keyes, Monday, 16 April 2018 18:25 (one year ago) link

It's really not that complicated. I know it's not gone forever from every place. The reason I pay for Filmstruck and Netflix is to watch movies on Filmstruck and Netflix.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 16 April 2018 18:28 (one year ago) link

The reason you pay for Filmstruck and Netflix is that culture started priding convenience over quality

like æ duce says, smell my anvil vapre (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 16 April 2018 18:32 (one year ago) link

Not your fault, obviously, but we should all temper our expectations to this new reality if we're going to help fund it

like æ duce says, smell my anvil vapre (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 16 April 2018 18:34 (one year ago) link

Netflix= Stuff you probably wouldn't have paid for back in the video store days but hey there it is

Filmstruck= This is easier than riding a bike to the library all the time

President Keyes, Monday, 16 April 2018 18:43 (one year ago) link

whiney otm in last 2 posts

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 16 April 2018 20:22 (one year ago) link

Kanopy -- which is free if you have a library card -- just added most (or maybe all?) of Fred Wiseman's documentaries.

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Monday, 16 April 2018 21:20 (one year ago) link

Anybody got Filmstruck UK? Been thinking of ditching Mubi for it and wondered what selection was like.

Dan Worsley, Monday, 16 April 2018 21:33 (one year ago) link

i get kanopy through my employer (public university), but it requires vpn so i can't chromecast it. it's a bummer.

wmlynch, Monday, 16 April 2018 22:28 (one year ago) link

FWIW I don't use VPN and I do use Chromecast.

Watched "Hospital" last night. Some haunting stuff in there.

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 20:51 (one year ago) link

yah my employer requires the vpn to access it, not kanopy.

wmlynch, Wednesday, 18 April 2018 00:06 (one year ago) link

wait which library did you use to access it? maybe i'm not trying hard enough.

wmlynch, Wednesday, 18 April 2018 00:07 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

Alfred, if you find the idea of browsing 1500 titles to be just too much, here's a thing I maintain: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TWx8-b5fbqenVr6r64hf3GktufPAgc61akPIvKoV2XA/edit#gid=556920267

― WilliamC, Saturday, November 4, 2017 5:17 PM (six months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is great but what does the color coding mean?

na (NA), Friday, 18 May 2018 21:16 (one year ago) link

The yellow and blue fields were for films I've seen. Red was for films that had expired and weren't available anymore. Every now and then there's a bit of green for films that I started, really hated, and quit watching before the end. I haven't updated that spreadsheet in more than 2 months -- when the huge amount of TCM Select stuff went live I gave up. I thought that spreadsheet at disobey.com (linked upthread) would be a good replacement, but it hasn't been updated in over a month. :(

WilliamC, Friday, 18 May 2018 21:30 (one year ago) link

if You Gotta Move is still on there, i think everyone should watch it
i visited the school after seeing the movie -- that's how good it was

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 18 May 2018 21:36 (one year ago) link

sorry it is GOT TO

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You_Got_to_Move

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 18 May 2018 21:36 (one year ago) link

Filmstruck added The Night of Truth, Kabala, Hyenas, Guelwaar, Dreams of Dust, Sembene, Xala, and Yeelen today

— &rew (@hedgetheater) May 18, 2018

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, 18 May 2018 23:21 (one year ago) link

The Other Side of Hope coming June 29th

WilliamC, Wednesday, 30 May 2018 21:29 (one year ago) link

Bill Morrison docs are leaving soon I hear -- and I was wondering if anyone else has trouble with them? Like staggering video?

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 30 May 2018 22:19 (one year ago) link

I've been blessedly free of playback problems since the service started. I see loads of frustrations on places like Criterionforum.org and their Facebook page, but I've had pretty smooth sailing. Maybe one or two glitches.

WilliamC, Wednesday, 30 May 2018 23:31 (one year ago) link

so nothing on the morrison films? someone else i asked said that she did have issues. i wonder what the problem is?

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 30 May 2018 23:41 (one year ago) link

maybe it's like only for roku users or something
god i hate companies so much

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 30 May 2018 23:42 (one year ago) link

so to watch in browser you need to enable adobe flash?

omgneto and ittanium mayne (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 3 June 2018 02:26 (one year ago) link

fraid so

WilliamC, Sunday, 3 June 2018 03:28 (one year ago) link

Okay, since Criterions mostly dried up from Kanopy, finally going to have to give this a try.

omgneto and ittanium mayne (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 3 June 2018 14:56 (one year ago) link

four months pass...

I had high hopes for the King Kong audio commentary, but there's not much to it really. Harryhausen and Ralston chat while watching the film but don't have much to say beyond "ahh, that's a terrific matte painting there." Merian Cooper and Fay Wray's contributions are cut in from other talks, and almost an hour into it, Wray's only contribution so far is "One nice thing about the picture is that we all remained friends."

WmC, Saturday, 13 October 2018 19:48 (one year ago) link

I love the long overture or original music that's included at the beginning of "Kong." I wish more prints of vintage movies would include those if available.

Jazzbo, Monday, 15 October 2018 14:32 (one year ago) link

Filmstruck now launching in the UK. Free 14 day trial, approx. £6 a month depending on whether you pay monthly or annually. Looking at the UK website so far, the Criterion titles are restricted to those that have been issued on blu ray in the UK, and even then it's not every title. They've also got a deal w/ Curzon/Artificial Eye to include some of their titles too. All in all, a much bigger selection than on MUBI, but MUBI often has films that are otherwise unavailable to view in the UK, whereas there don't seem to be anything that out of the ordinary on Filmstruck so far (plus I get a free subscription to MUBI as part of my Glasgow Film Theatre membership).

Ward Fowler, Friday, 19 October 2018 09:56 (one year ago) link

Was going to dump Mubi for Filmstruck earlier this month when my annual sub ran out, however they offered a year for £22.99 so am sticking with them, at least for another year. Will probably get Filmstruck soon. but hoping their library gets a bit deeper.

Dan Worsley, Friday, 19 October 2018 11:13 (one year ago) link

RIP: https://variety.com/2018/digital/news/filmstruck-shutdown-warnermedia-turner-1202998364/

shutting down at the end of november

pretty pissed about this

na (NA), Friday, 26 October 2018 14:55 (one year ago) link

Well, shit.

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Friday, 26 October 2018 14:56 (one year ago) link

what the fuck

maura, Friday, 26 October 2018 14:57 (one year ago) link

Aww. Well, I guess that saves me a few bucks each month. I wish I had more time to watch stuff while it lasted.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 October 2018 15:00 (one year ago) link

farewell to the films truck

ciderpress, Friday, 26 October 2018 15:01 (one year ago) link

fuuuuuuuck

WmC, Friday, 26 October 2018 15:02 (one year ago) link

goddammit

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 26 October 2018 15:03 (one year ago) link

at least i have shudder the only other good streaming service? this fucking sucks

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 26 October 2018 15:03 (one year ago) link

this makes me very sad

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Friday, 26 October 2018 15:04 (one year ago) link

it never came to canada AFAIK but I'd have checked it out. feeling better and better about stockpiling physical media tbh

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Friday, 26 October 2018 15:06 (one year ago) link

put everyone who talks like this out on ice floes for the sake of humanity pic.twitter.com/44BFCSYSSg

— Brandy Jensen (@BrandyLJensen) October 26, 2018

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Friday, 26 October 2018 15:08 (one year ago) link

@ brad - depending on your needs, fandor is like $7/month or something, not a filmstruck-level library but if you watch a few things a month you can think of it like having a video rental place w a reasonably fun indie/foreign/cult section.

kanopy, if your local library has a contract with them, if free and has great collections (difft lineups for different libraries, kind of confusing) but absolutely garbage software/interface.

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Friday, 26 October 2018 15:11 (one year ago) link

I love Mubi, but that's obviously not an extensive library

President Keyes, Friday, 26 October 2018 15:16 (one year ago) link

physical media forevah

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 26 October 2018 15:17 (one year ago) link

Ugh. Where will the Criterions play?

Buckaroo Can't Fail (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 26 October 2018 15:21 (one year ago) link

Nowhere, for the moment.

WmC, Friday, 26 October 2018 15:22 (one year ago) link

@ brad - depending on your needs, fandor is like $7/month or something, not a filmstruck-level library but if you watch a few things a month you can think of it like having a video rental place w a reasonably fun indie/foreign/cult section.

this is great to know, thank you!

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 26 October 2018 15:23 (one year ago) link

Don’t dig Fandor that much, sorry

Buckaroo Can't Fail (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 26 October 2018 15:24 (one year ago) link

I don't see the Hulu deal restarting or Netflix shelling money for this library, and Criterion doesn't have the pockets to do a standalone service. They need a big partner and the big partners are drying up.

WmC, Friday, 26 October 2018 15:25 (one year ago) link

seems a bad situation-- art film streaming service is not profitable enough for a huge corporation, and a smaller company doesn't have the money to license all these art films

President Keyes, Friday, 26 October 2018 15:34 (one year ago) link

physical media forevah

flappy bird, Friday, 26 October 2018 15:34 (one year ago) link

piracy forevah

vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 26 October 2018 15:39 (one year ago) link

This is sad, I was also waiting for it to launch in Canada. Before Filmstruck, Criterion had licensed a big chunk of its library to other streaming services that had a big institutional subscriber bases - libraries, universities - and maybe it'll return to that in the meantime?

Kanopy and AlexanderStreet are two of these which, independently of Criterion/Filmstruck, I'd recommend anyone to check out if they haven't heard of them. If your municipal library is signed up, all you need is an active library card to login and have access on your computer/device.

Federico Boswarlos, Friday, 26 October 2018 15:41 (one year ago) link

ymmv on fandor obv - i def haven't used it as much as i might cause it came free with moviepass for some reason, and at the time, moviepass was still usable so obviously i instead went and saw fandor-type movies at the theater, like velvet goldmine. and now it's competing with sinemia and kanopy time i guess. but i've watched some of yr bof-standard silent-film canon (caligari, the general) and some fun cult classic type stuff on it like Death Race 2000 and Dark Star and a bunch of jim henson stop motion shorts from the 60s. not sure where else i would have streamed The Point!. etc.. and sooner or later i'll sit down and take in the careers of bava and argento, some of the herzog classics, etc.

that's just to sketch it out (you can browse the whole catalog on the web w/o subscribing) and by no means does it occupy the same niche as filmstruck. in terms of lineup, kanopy is way closer. but depending on your tastes it might be nice to have.

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Friday, 26 October 2018 15:43 (one year ago) link

I've been using Kanopy cuz it's free through my university.

You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 26 October 2018 15:43 (one year ago) link

hope criterion comes back to hulu

Greta Van Fleek (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 26 October 2018 15:43 (one year ago) link

my household is super bummed about this
even the dogs

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 26 October 2018 15:45 (one year ago) link

so much streaming garbage out there, i will miss u filmstruck
goddamn companies

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 26 October 2018 15:46 (one year ago) link

Mmmmmmmaybe they'll make a deal to be a part of the HBO/Warner/Turner streaming service coming next year, but I'm not holding my breath.

WmC, Friday, 26 October 2018 15:46 (one year ago) link

I haven't seen this much collective mourning on my twitter feed since ... well, ever.

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Friday, 26 October 2018 15:47 (one year ago) link

a bunch of criterion/janus never left kanopy but it can be elusive, and hard to even really take a head count because there are many titles (not criterion specific) that i can watch through my public library membership but NOT my university one. depending which membership you have toggled to "active," the other titles just don't appear when browsing, but DO still sit in your watchlist, BUT can't be actually played if it turns out they're gone from all your memberships. this is only one of a dozen needlessly clunky features, the worst tho are the consistent roku bugs that mean watching with subtitles on my TV has remained a complete crapshoot for more than a year. you get what you pay for i guess but it'd be cool if libraries would demand these people maintain an easier-to-use product. don't get me started on the pagination woes.

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Friday, 26 October 2018 15:48 (one year ago) link

interface on Kanopy has been fine for me on phone, except for clicking to see why a single film was listed as a collection of two, and it starting to play & thus using one of my five-films-a-month (restriction of the Seattle Public Library)

Eight-Tenths Bigamy (sic), Friday, 26 October 2018 15:56 (one year ago) link

i cringe to imagine clicking page by tedious page through my 17-page watchlist on a phone. also iirc you can't search by terms like "kurosawa" though perhaps that's been fixed

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Friday, 26 October 2018 16:05 (one year ago) link

haven't tried to use Kanopy on my phone, but the search function on it's webpage allows a search by director, which is really nice (that is one of my gripes with Netflix). It doesn't feel to me that the interface there is much different from other streaming services. You can add films to your watchlist so they are available when you go in to the app on your tv screen.

I didn't realize that individual libraries make different content available. SFPL I know has the complete Janus Criterion collection as well as many others

Dan S, Friday, 26 October 2018 16:25 (one year ago) link

17-page watchlist

with only 5 films per month, I have not been that profligate with my watchlisting, admittedly

Eight-Tenths Bigamy (sic), Friday, 26 October 2018 16:28 (one year ago) link

oh, it's definitely annoying that a 2-minute cartoon counts as as much as a 5.5-hour documentary toward that limit.

Eight-Tenths Bigamy (sic), Friday, 26 October 2018 16:29 (one year ago) link

I know we have Criterion excluded on our school's Kanopy service because it costs $150 to activate a film for a year, and we only want to pay for films used in classes etc.

President Keyes, Friday, 26 October 2018 16:31 (one year ago) link

sic get a job at the UW, exploit some library privileges

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Friday, 26 October 2018 16:32 (one year ago) link

yeah i imagine kanopy must offer a few standard packages to customers, university one maybe heavier on canonical classics for the learning youth, city library one heavier on contemporary foreign/indie/docs for the NPR set? just guessing tho.

ymmv obv but the pagination killlls the browsing for me. like netflix and co have figured this out more or less, just let me scroll thru everything i've put in my queue and see what i'm in the mood for (and if you really wanna blow my mind, let me sort that list by year/name/genre instead of always being most-recently-added). having to click "next page" a dozen times is wack. it's lots of little stuff like that - removing a movie from your watchlist on page 15 bumps you back up to page one. if you're browsing through a genre and click into a movie to get the full details, clicking back out dumps you at the top of the genre. there's no simple "recently added" page so you have to check individual genres and overlapping ad-hoc categories. etc. etc. sorry to rant, it's just a design bummer cause the catalog's amazing and there is never going to be any organized pressure from their customers to refine any of this.

obv the watchlist is longer than whatever i'll get to in a month or a year but i tend to load up lists with whatever on a service looks interesting so that when i sit down to pick something out i can just look at my watchlist.

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Friday, 26 October 2018 16:36 (one year ago) link

if Apple's smart they'll grab this up for their new service next year

Nhex, Friday, 26 October 2018 16:37 (one year ago) link

wish npr or pbs or somesuch had the resources to step into this space, sigh.

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Friday, 26 October 2018 16:38 (one year ago) link

Well, guess I won't be signing up to Filmstruck after all :-( I like Mubi but really could do with an alternative.

Dan Worsley, Friday, 26 October 2018 16:43 (one year ago) link

there's a "recently added" strip right at the top of the Kanopy mobile app, that scrolls and scrolls :)

Eight-Tenths Bigamy (sic), Friday, 26 October 2018 16:43 (one year ago) link

(and a recently added docos underneath The Criterion Collection)

Eight-Tenths Bigamy (sic), Friday, 26 October 2018 16:44 (one year ago) link

For all but the very obsessive, the whole "this is why you should own a vast and expensive personal library of movies you'll probably only watch once or twice" line is just bonkers to me.

ryan, Friday, 26 October 2018 16:47 (one year ago) link

For all but the very obsessive,

exactly

flappy bird, Friday, 26 October 2018 16:48 (one year ago) link

yeah the real thing to lament is the death of physical-media video stores (or even o.g. DVD-by-mail netflix) which were actually the right medium between owning-forever and never-seeing.

didn't realize that abt the app, might have to install it just to spare myself the clicking around on the web.

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Friday, 26 October 2018 16:48 (one year ago) link

Kanopy is awesome, but I agree the interface sucks

Nhex, Friday, 26 October 2018 16:49 (one year ago) link

not sure what the o.g. version of netflix was but the current dvd-by-mail selection is amazing!

Dan S, Friday, 26 October 2018 16:52 (one year ago) link

ha i didn't even realize it still existed. i remember an article a couple years ago on how limited and unreliable it'd actually become since they weren't replacing lost/destroyed discs so tons of bog-standard stuff had quietly become not-actually-gettable. but i'm probably fogging up the details.

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Friday, 26 October 2018 16:56 (one year ago) link

Netflix DVD-by-mail has more films available than Netflix streaming

For all but the very obsessive, the whole "this is why you should own a vast and expensive personal library of movies you'll probably only watch once or twice" line is just bonkers to me.

think of the question as being "do you want to watch them once"

Eight-Tenths Bigamy (sic), Friday, 26 October 2018 16:57 (one year ago) link

Criterions have good resell value anyway

flappy bird, Friday, 26 October 2018 16:58 (one year ago) link

xp yes, if you're into classic cinema or world cinema, there's no comparison between netflix DVD and streaming services

Dan S, Friday, 26 October 2018 17:00 (one year ago) link

I think it was after they did the “directed by Raoul Walsh” collection I thought how dies this exist? This is too good to be true

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Friday, 26 October 2018 17:03 (one year ago) link

For the hundred bucks I'll save for not having a year of Filmstruck and its 1000-1200 options, I'll be able to buy 4-5 Criterion home releases (during half-off sales), or half of next month's Bergman box.

WmC, Friday, 26 October 2018 17:07 (one year ago) link

losing disc-by-mail maybe the worst thing about moving to Canada tbrr

rob, Friday, 26 October 2018 17:09 (one year ago) link

honestly, cost-proposition wise Netflix and Amazon Prime are still insane for what you get. but they'll never have everything, all the time, hence physical media worth buying and supporting for sure. also, the way history has been, whatever supplants Blu-ray will still publish less titles in the end, the way there were more DVDs than BR, more VHS than DVD..

Nhex, Friday, 26 October 2018 17:22 (one year ago) link

lame, I was just thinking of signing up for this

Οὖτις, Friday, 26 October 2018 17:28 (one year ago) link

Stupid:

Streaming is a scam that conditions consumers to forget the importance and necessity of ownership, to instead subscribe to the profit-maximizing whims of a megacorporation. Continued unabated, it will mutilate the history of film and music. Tech isn’t going to save us.

— Scary Kaleb Horton (@kalebhorton) October 26, 2018

Streaming has stymied piracy better than any other digital model. The mechanism is in place to finally properly pay artists (even if they aren't doing it now) & more accurately track ears/eyeballs.

flappy bird, Friday, 26 October 2018 17:40 (one year ago) link

flappy is a BigTech sock

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 26 October 2018 17:42 (one year ago) link

I doubt there will be a successor optical medium to Blu-ray that gets any kind of home market penetration, though considering the sorry state of America's crumbling infrastructure/broadband capacity maybe it'll wind up that we all just start buying movies on flash memory (NB this is way too expensive)

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Friday, 26 October 2018 17:44 (one year ago) link

lol I don't even have Netflix! Not into streaming video because the quality is so shit (in my area at least - Comcast is the only option). But I have Apple Music and I love it, and still buy records.

flappy bird, Friday, 26 October 2018 17:45 (one year ago) link

i've grumbled at flappy before for Big Tech sanguinity but i believe their positions are sincerely-held and non-sock

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Friday, 26 October 2018 17:47 (one year ago) link

fortunately everyone will be drownded before the Blurays degrade

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 26 October 2018 17:47 (one year ago) link

I generally hate streaming services of all music/film/TV because they often can't provide what I actually want to watch/hear.

Οὖτις, Friday, 26 October 2018 17:47 (one year ago) link

lol wait i think i just got flappy mixed up with flopson again

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Friday, 26 October 2018 17:47 (one year ago) link

"the importance and necessity of ownership" pretty sure there's a fugazi song about this

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 26 October 2018 17:48 (one year ago) link

fortunately we have the NY liberries, Brad

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 26 October 2018 17:48 (one year ago) link

anyway libraries are really important imo xp

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 26 October 2018 17:49 (one year ago) link

i only buy important shit like Rossellini and Sternberg boxes

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 26 October 2018 17:49 (one year ago) link

the importance and necessity of ownership

such weird icky ethical bullshit surrounding owning/collecting movies, something almost no one did before the 1980s.

President Keyes, Friday, 26 October 2018 17:49 (one year ago) link

Yeah theres flopson flappy and flopsy

F# A# (∞), Friday, 26 October 2018 17:50 (one year ago) link

if they could've they would've

xp

flappy bird, Friday, 26 October 2018 17:51 (one year ago) link

flopson, flappy, and floppentail, surely

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Friday, 26 October 2018 17:51 (one year ago) link

streaming is generally fine (individual companies maybe not of course) as long as you don't think of it as an archive--it's really just the new iteration of broadcast TV

rob, Friday, 26 October 2018 17:53 (one year ago) link

a key difference though: it's not regulated nearly as much

rob, Friday, 26 October 2018 17:54 (one year ago) link

so nothing good is ever on when you want it to be?
i am not a fan of streaming because you have to purchase access to the service AND have reliable internet in order to use the service. even people in major metropolitan areas don't have access to reliable streaming. AND the catalog is never full of what i want to see so it's just like a crapshoot where all you get is crap...maybe.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 26 October 2018 17:55 (one year ago) link

that's another reason I can't get on board (yet) - shit disappearing and cycling in and out = DUD

flappy bird, Friday, 26 October 2018 17:56 (one year ago) link

so you need three things -- electricity (fine, we all need this), high speed internet service (not everyone has this) and purchased access to the service providing the media. it relies on three levels of access and even then you have to like what they are serving up. which...when it comes to netflix, no.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 26 October 2018 17:57 (one year ago) link

i try to avoid owning movies (and books), i have enough

i borrow

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 26 October 2018 17:57 (one year ago) link

xp
yes very good points about worse access than broadcast, I was thinking more just in terms of quality and the arbitrariness of what's discoverable

rob, Friday, 26 October 2018 17:58 (one year ago) link

my students look startled whenever I slip out that I still get Netflix DVDs.

They're doing a project requiring an analysis of M and four other good films made in subsequent decades (most recent: BPM). I sent them to Kanopy because, as I wrote earlier, it's free through the uni library, but I almost listed Filmstruck as an option. With the email volume I get, it was a rare smart move on my part.

You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 26 October 2018 17:59 (one year ago) link

the importance and necessity of ownership would make more sense in the context of iTunes purchased movies disappearing when rights change

louise ck (milo z), Friday, 26 October 2018 18:00 (one year ago) link

everytime the viewing medium changes, we lose more films.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 26 October 2018 18:02 (one year ago) link

i love explaining to students why we are watching a DVD instead of streaming. in addition to the unreliable internet service at my school, usually their favorite reason for doing it is that no one can see you watching a DVD -- like when we watched The Murder of Fred Hampton. they could see the value of privacy.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 26 October 2018 18:03 (one year ago) link

I've heard great things about Kanopy, don't know about their lousy interface but seems like the best option now.

flappy bird, Friday, 26 October 2018 18:05 (one year ago) link

re:disappearing titles. reminds me a bit of the ebook publishers I deal at work. Even though it's not my money it appalls me that they sell these expensive electronic titles and then drop them from their platform without notice, and you have to figure it out yourself. And then when you complain you just get some tech speak about purging content to upgrade for a better user experience!

President Keyes, Friday, 26 October 2018 18:06 (one year ago) link

my library's Kanopy catalogue is easily fewer than 100 items, and probably 90% are contemporary documentaries

LL: that's genuinely good to hear that your students care about data privacy

rob, Friday, 26 October 2018 18:07 (one year ago) link

everytime the viewing medium changes, we lose more films.

I really wish people understood this, it drives me crazy how cavalier (or just ignorant) people are about it

Οὖτις, Friday, 26 October 2018 18:08 (one year ago) link

yeah it's awful. do yall know Rite Aid sells blu rays for like $4 new? not a bad selection tbh

xxp ah didn't know Kanopy's library was regional

flappy bird, Friday, 26 October 2018 18:08 (one year ago) link

Kanopy is good but definitely limited compared to Filmstruck. You can only watch a certain number of things per month, for example.

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, 26 October 2018 18:08 (one year ago) link

there's a video store opening up here v soon & the line I've heard the most and the line that KILLS me is "can't you find every movie ever made online?" No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

flappy bird, Friday, 26 October 2018 18:09 (one year ago) link

the store is also functioning as a physical media archive, registered as a nonprofit, will have a membership model instead of individual rental charges, etc. wish every city could have this - and lord knows it was hard enough here, they've been "coming soon" for months but they've finally painted the storefront & will open next week I think

flappy bird, Friday, 26 October 2018 18:11 (one year ago) link

is that an Alamo thing?

Alamo just took over the library of the last major video store in SF and I'm curious what their going to do with it

Οὖτις, Friday, 26 October 2018 18:12 (one year ago) link

nah, co-owned & run by Eric Hatch, I think most of you have seen him on twitter. but here's the facade:

Our facade design is up at @BeyondVideo_!!! So pumped for them to open soon! pic.twitter.com/hvP5t1AeRb

— Post Typography (@posttypography) October 26, 2018

flappy bird, Friday, 26 October 2018 18:15 (one year ago) link

haha that's dope

Οὖτις, Friday, 26 October 2018 18:16 (one year ago) link

Alamo recently took over the library of the last major video store in downtown Brooklyn. Haven't gone yet.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 26 October 2018 18:17 (one year ago) link

there was a small party a couple months ago for people in the film community in town to come check out the store and good lord it's paradise. everyone working there has great taste and are really dedicated to building an archive. whole second floor is directors shelves, so much OOP and hard to find Altman, Godard, Akerman, Denis, Fassbinder, and on and on and on... I haven't even checked out the other rooms yet. so pumped.

flappy bird, Friday, 26 October 2018 18:19 (one year ago) link

anyway, where is Criterion going to go once Filmstruck shutters?

flappy bird, Friday, 26 October 2018 18:22 (one year ago) link

a farm

President Keyes, Friday, 26 October 2018 18:26 (one year ago) link

that Beyond Video building facade looks great!

the selection of films available on Netflix DVD beats any streaming service imo, Kanopy and Filmstruck included

Dan S, Friday, 26 October 2018 18:30 (one year ago) link

I bailed on Netflix DVD because they skipped too much for me, is this not a problem for you guys?

5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 26 October 2018 18:38 (one year ago) link

It has gaps, yeah, but it's still my first choice.

You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 26 October 2018 18:42 (one year ago) link

xp
my brother said the same thing about bad netflix discs

rob, Friday, 26 October 2018 18:44 (one year ago) link

the selection of films available on Netflix DVD beats any streaming service imo, Kanopy and Filmstruck included

Currently they offer 63 total films from 1900-1980, and zero of them offer special features, so, no.

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, 26 October 2018 18:44 (one year ago) link

on streaming I mean. The discs usually have the features locked.

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, 26 October 2018 18:45 (one year ago) link

Currently they offer 63 total films from 1900-1980, and zero of them offer special features, so, no.

― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, October 26, 2018 11:44 AM

then I'm not sure you and I have the same service. I've been working my way through filmographies by director, using the ilx directors poll list as a starting point, to give myself an education, and the number of films available on netflix dvd is astonishing. There are gaps (e.g. the 80s and 90s works of Godard) but for the most part the supply of classic/world stuff is almost endless. I keep a queue of 500 going, and I haven't worked my way even a fraction of it

Dan S, Friday, 26 October 2018 18:47 (one year ago) link

as I said above though, the search function isn't great, you have to type the film's title in to find most of them

Dan S, Friday, 26 October 2018 18:48 (one year ago) link

Sorry, I initially missed that you were talking about the DVD service. It's quite comprehensive but I still never use it.

I think you have to be a pretty disciplined viewer to actually remember to update your disc queue, and avoid skipping issues, AND still want to watch the same films from whenever it was that you queued them up. Especially when I can just load up Kanopy (or YouTube) and choose something that fits my mood.

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, 26 October 2018 18:55 (one year ago) link

I bailed on Netflix DVD because they skipped too much for me, is this not a problem for you guys?

― 5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, October 26, 2018 2:38 PM (forty-six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It has gaps, yeah, but it's still my first choice.

― You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, October 26, 2018 2:42 PM (forty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I mean the DVDs skip

5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 26 October 2018 19:24 (one year ago) link

Yup, about once every three rentals for me.

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Friday, 26 October 2018 19:55 (one year ago) link

More frequently than usual.

Also, perhaps they've closed local receiving plants, for it takes longer for them to process a return. Until a couple years it'd be a 24/48-hour turnaround at most (and I return DVDs at a post office).

You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 26 October 2018 20:00 (one year ago) link

Agree about the turnaround, it's worth getting a subscription for at least a few at a time. As far as skipping, it must be partly player-dependent. dvds skip frequently on my friend's player, almost never on mine

Dan S, Friday, 26 October 2018 20:06 (one year ago) link

lol my friend designed that Beyond Video storefont and just posted it on his fb earlier

vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 26 October 2018 20:18 (one year ago) link

👀 small world!

flappy bird, Friday, 26 October 2018 20:22 (one year ago) link

Joanna Scutts: The Death of FilmStruck Is a Dark Day in the History of Movies

When the cultural playing field is restricted to behemoths like Disney and AT&T, there’s less and less chance of anything human-scaled surviving. The indiscriminate sprawl of Netflix, Hulu, and Amazon’s vast libraries is part of their allure; you get lost in the figurative stacks, and you can unearth gems and surprises. But for the most part these services are self-reinforcing, telling you what you like based on what you’ve watched before, making inferences about you as a member of a certain demographic. If the only art you see is the kind of art you’ve already heard of, then you’re missing the challenge and the thrill of true discovery.

flappy bird, Sunday, 28 October 2018 00:41 (one year ago) link

as the NY public library system is a magnet for the mentally ill, a lot of the discs are quite intentionally scratched up. (i've also twice taken out a Criterion to find some enterprising shitbird has replaced it with a previous iteration of the film.)

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 28 October 2018 14:44 (one year ago) link

While I sense that this meme is meant to make me feel smug about my significant investment in physical media, somehow it is having the opposite effect? pic.twitter.com/jrqhySKJjB

— 𝕿𝖗𝖔𝖚𝖇𝖑𝖊 𝕰𝖛𝖊𝖗𝖞 𝕯𝖆𝖞 (@NickPinkerton) October 27, 2018

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 28 October 2018 14:44 (one year ago) link

yup.

Kanopy Criterion Collection looks like it is down to about two dozen titles. Okay, sorry, 50.

Buckaroo Can't Fail (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 28 October 2018 18:09 (one year ago) link

Okay, warming up to Fandor.

Buckaroo Can't Fail (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 29 October 2018 01:08 (one year ago) link

While I sense that this meme is meant to make me feel smug about my significant investment in physical media, somehow it is having the opposite effect? pic.twitter.com/jrqhySKJjB
— 𝕿𝖗𝖔𝖚𝖇𝖑𝖊 𝕰𝖛𝖊𝖗𝖞 𝕯𝖆𝖞 (@NickPinkerton) October 27, 2018

― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, October 28, 2018 2:44 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you know the guy in that photo has like twelve different limited editions of "boondock saints" in embossed tin cases.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Monday, 29 October 2018 01:31 (one year ago) link

things to watch before Filmstruck disappears: the short nature films of Jean Painlevé. They're like 6-15 min long, span the 1920s (sea urchins, among others) to 1980s (pigeons iirc), have super sweet titles like Shrimp Stories, and are completely delightful.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 5 November 2018 15:24 (one year ago) link

i guess i should buy a copy of sans soleil if it's that important to me, but it was kinda nice having a streaming service where i could put it on whenever

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 5 November 2018 15:27 (one year ago) link

oh also there is a really cool one about crystals! i am glad to have the chance to watch them before they are absorbed back into the earth or wherever nature films go to rest

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 5 November 2018 15:28 (one year ago) link

I only recently learned this was going away. I would've loved to have taken advantage while it existed but, as far as I could tell, there was no convenient way for me to watch Filmstruck stuff on my actual TV. Which was a pretty serious demerit.

Things like the death of Filmstruck quell my occasional doubts re: the wisdom/sanity of having a 1000+ physical film collection. Relying on digital services is like doing all of your shopping at TJ Maxx, just kinda shrugging your shoulders and taking whatever happens to be on offer that day. There's only so much unpredictability and ephemerality I can come to terms with in this fragile world, knowhutimsayin.

Sizzlean Dion (Old Lunch), Monday, 5 November 2018 15:48 (one year ago) link

Unsubstantiated gossip from the Criterion Forum message board --

Also, thought I'd add a bit of info that I found out from a friend who works in thebTurner building in Atlanta (they work for primarily with TCM, but also assisted FilmStruck at times).

I asked them when the employees working there found out about the shutdown, because it seemed to come out of nowhere — no rumors or anything. They told me that everyone was notified at work about one-hour before the customer announcement e-mails got sent out that Friday... Yikes :(

Edit: Sent my friend the Bill Hader clip and we talked more. They said that Scorsese apparently tried calling AT&T executives about it (keyphrase: "tried calling"), and other networks are currently offering to purchase the service. So that's hopeful news.

Also, FS already tried merging with Amazon (I assumed as a Prime Channel), but Amazon only wanted them to put up a bulk batch of films — no curation, weekly themes, or supplements/FS extras — so the deal didn't happen.

WmC, Monday, 5 November 2018 15:51 (one year ago) link

there was no convenient way for me to watch Filmstruck stuff on my actual TV

the roku app's been around for a while. i guess that requires buying a roku

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 5 November 2018 15:53 (one year ago) link

I wonder if the ATT/Warner/TCM mega service coming next year might try to do a new Criterion deal -- cancel Filmstruck, make Criterion flail for a while, then re-sign them at better-for-ATT terms.

WmC, Monday, 5 November 2018 16:04 (one year ago) link

LL, I agree, those Painlevé films are great. A couple of "RIP Filmstruck" articles have mentioned Lubitsch's Cluny Brown and the fact that it's not available in any physical format so I watched it last night and it is terrific.

WmC, Monday, 5 November 2018 16:12 (one year ago) link

the short nature films of Jean Painlevé.

I just bought the Criterion DVD collection of these this weekend! I admit I am like the streaming skeptic big guy with the wall of discs upthread. Although I have zero copies of Boondock Saints and three different editions of the Wicker Man.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 5 November 2018 16:19 (one year ago) link

<3 my friend

maybe i should buy the dvd too. speaking of antiquated nature films, when will criterion discover ken middleham?! i want to see his stuff collected ASAP, before the filmstrips deteriorate!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 5 November 2018 16:25 (one year ago) link

Hm. Looking through Kanopy I see a bunch of good stuff that comes via the Cohen Collection as well, which collection I had been unaware of

Buckaroo Can't Fail (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 11 November 2018 22:41 (one year ago) link

The best news and the scariest news at once.

I hear you've been having trouble with pigs and ponies. (WmC), Friday, 16 November 2018 20:23 (one year ago) link

Well, trying to sign up as a charter member didn't go well, and doesn't bode well.

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Friday, 16 November 2018 20:25 (one year ago) link

Huh. Went easy for me, then again I might have snuck in before the crush.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 16 November 2018 20:30 (one year ago) link

Worked for me. It'd be nice to think they got such a deluge of signups it broke the site for a few minutes.

This is a little worrisome, though:

Our library will also be available through WarnerMedia’s new consumer platform when it launches late next year, so once both services are live, Criterion fans will have even more ways to find the films they love.

After the Warner site launches, will people leave the CChannel to maximize their dollar? Presumably the CChannel will be the only place to get supplements and curated programming and the Bordwell/Thompson/Smith stuff, but will that be enough? The exclusive content will have to be very enticing.

I hear you've been having trouble with pigs and ponies. (WmC), Friday, 16 November 2018 20:32 (one year ago) link

Guess we'll have to see. Unless Warner offers a full streaming TCM at last, can't say I'm immediately interested in what they have to offer.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 16 November 2018 20:35 (one year ago) link

Yay!

EZ Snappin, Friday, 16 November 2018 20:36 (one year ago) link

forgot to add
Criss Cross

Recnac and my 📛 is Yrral (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 16 November 2018 21:29 (one year ago) link

are they still gonna be on kanopy

flopson, Friday, 16 November 2018 21:29 (one year ago) link

I wasn't a Filmstruck subscriber but reading about it in the wake of the cancellation announcement made me want to sign up. Glad they're continuing this kind of programming.

flappy bird, Friday, 16 November 2018 21:31 (one year ago) link

Signed up!

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 November 2018 21:58 (one year ago) link

Me too. This, along with the new video store in town, will keep me very busy in 2019. I do still buy a lot of physical media, but as Morbius said upthread, I've gotta scale it back to the essentials: certain boxes, movies I know I'll watch multiple times, will go thru the supplements and essays. Does Filmstruck provide any of the essays/liner notes for the CC films they put up?

flappy bird, Friday, 16 November 2018 22:02 (one year ago) link

No, but aren't the essays usually available on the product pages at the Criterion website?

I hear you've been having trouble with pigs and ponies. (WmC), Friday, 16 November 2018 22:12 (one year ago) link

The liners for Bad Timing are not here: https://www.criterion.com/films/744-bad-timing

Not sure about more recent releases/movies that have been upgraded. I just wanted to read the booklet again because I lent out my copy of Bad Timing and like always have had a very hard time getting it back!

flappy bird, Friday, 16 November 2018 22:23 (one year ago) link

The Painleve shorts were a big discovery for me as well. “Daphnia“ was my favorite of those, the microscopic views functioned almost as hyonoticslly beautiful abstract imagery.

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Friday, 23 November 2018 05:32 (one year ago) link

Didn’t dig the Farewell Video that much

Gottseidank, es ist Blecch Freitag (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 29 November 2018 21:49 (one year ago) link

it is missing the garfunkel interview though

princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 29 November 2018 21:54 (one year ago) link

right

flappy bird, Thursday, 29 November 2018 23:12 (one year ago) link

It’s still there.

My Ital Rival (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 30 November 2018 10:41 (one year ago) link

Time of death, 8:12 a.m. I was about 15 minutes into The Awful Truth.

WmC, Friday, 30 November 2018 14:14 (one year ago) link

:( I watched a few minutes of Still Walking to see if I could just now, must have stopped right before they pulled the plug

My Ital Rival (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 30 November 2018 14:21 (one year ago) link

Gonna miss this. Went out with an accidental double feature of The Last Seduction and Body Heat (both first time--had no idea it was basically the same movie!) last night.

ryan, Friday, 30 November 2018 16:14 (one year ago) link

Only signed up very recently, maybe two months ago (I suppose I could look up thread but tl;dr!) and never got fully into the swing of watching things from beginning to end although I did revisit the beginnings of many old favorites. The last thing I watched to completion, on Wednesday, was Naked for some reason.

My Ital Rival (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 30 November 2018 16:36 (one year ago) link

And today I heard somebody accidentally quote the security guard from that so I guess it was worth it.

My Ital Rival (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 30 November 2018 16:37 (one year ago) link

Without the beginning cut off
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXgpoLhEBa0

My Ital Rival (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 30 November 2018 19:23 (one year ago) link

Prior version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJfP6G0LSEA

My Ital Rival (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 30 November 2018 19:26 (one year ago) link

three weeks pass...

We got kanopy like a month after we subscribe to filmstruck. There are some hoops to jump through for the former though. I think you can only watch 10 movies a month, and you have to watch them within 3 days.

i took at look at this via one of my (MANY) university employers' library websites, maybe the local public library too, and was discouraged, but going in straight through the kanopy site i was delighted to find that it offered to find my university and offered an immediate authentication using my university login. so, that was cool.

can't find anything definite about a watch limit, maybe i don't have one.

j., Tuesday, 25 December 2018 03:40 (eleven months ago) link

Watch limits are set by the library, not by Kanopy - so if you don’t see one (eg top right in the phone app), you’re probably unlimited.

sans lep (sic), Tuesday, 25 December 2018 03:47 (eleven months ago) link

yeah that's what i figured - there's nothing like a number in any prominent location at all - just hard to believe my cheapass state university system would ever cover such a thing : )

j., Tuesday, 25 December 2018 03:49 (eleven months ago) link

Want to say I am jealous. But it is possible if you have multiple libraries attached that you could be in a state of being “between” libraries in which no watch limit is shown

Spirit of the Voice of the Beehive (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 25 December 2018 03:58 (eleven months ago) link

Feel like we should have a Kanopy watching thread so we can synchronize our three days if we choose or at least exchange suggestions of what we are watching and discuss.

Spirit of the Voice of the Beehive (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 25 December 2018 04:04 (eleven months ago) link

I might just start one myself

Spirit of the Voice of the Beehive (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 25 December 2018 04:05 (eleven months ago) link

I have unlimited Criterion and 4/month non-Criterion through my public library, and so far I haven't had a month where I ran out of credits. It's so nice.

jmm, Tuesday, 25 December 2018 04:16 (eleven months ago) link

Done. kanopy: thoughtful entertainment. what are you watching now?
(Almost jealous of your unlimited subscriptions, but I can’t really watch that much anyway)

Spirit of the Voice of the Beehive (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 25 December 2018 20:35 (eleven months ago) link

A new year's email:

All of us at the Criterion Collection wanted to start the year off by thanking you for signing up to become a Charter Subscriber of the Criterion Channel.

We’re excited to report that we are still on track for a spring launch in the U.S. and Canada, on the web and Amazon Fire, Roku, Android, and Apple devices. In the next few weeks we’ll be announcing our launch date and sending along instructions for making your subscription official.

Hopefully "Apple devices" means Apple TV as well as iOS.

Juul Haalmeyer Dancers washout (WmC), Wednesday, 2 January 2019 13:35 (eleven months ago) link

three weeks pass...

https://hyperallergic.com/481111/in-march-a-much-needed-streaming-service-for-arthouse-films-will-launch/

Enter OVID, a recently announced partnership between academic documentary service Docuseek and six independent film distribution companies. Together, these partners — Bullfrog Films, Distrib Films US, Grasshopper Film, Icarus Films, KimStim, and First Run Features — control the rights to thousands of different documentary, arthouse, independent, and international titles. OVID will be an on-demand subscription service offering selections from these various catalogues.
OVID is planned to launch in March, at which point its slate will consist of hundreds of documentary titles. Fiction titles will be added in the summer, and further curated selections will be made available on a monthly basis. The site stresses that many of these films will be unavailable to see anywhere else. It promises to feature filmmakers Chantal Akerman, Chris Marker, Bill Morrison, Jean Rouch, Wang Bing, Bi Gan, Pedro Costa, Claire Denis, Bruno Dumont, Cheryl Dunye, Eric Rohmer, Raul Ruiz, and Jean-Marie Straub and Danièle Huillet.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 28 January 2019 13:00 (ten months ago) link

Word is out, if you signed up as a charter subscriber:

The Criterion Channel, our new streaming service for movie lovers, will launch April 8 in the U.S. and Canada.

As a Charter Subscriber, you can start watching right now with our Movie of the Week series, featuring a new surprise every Wednesday from now until the official site launch.

We are so grateful to all of you who have signed up to be Charter Subscribers. Now it’s time to make it official and lock in your benefits, including an extended 30-day free trial (starting April 8) and reduced pricing for as long as your account stays active.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 19:38 (ten months ago) link

$90 a year, $10 a month btw

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 30 January 2019 19:44 (ten months ago) link



The Criterion Channel will launch April 8 in the US and Canada and will be available on desktop, iPhone, iPad, AppleTV, Roku, and Android devices.

so apparently (at launch at least) no tivo, no ps4, no amazon? how do u miss all my devices criterion?

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 30 January 2019 19:46 (ten months ago) link

Charter film appears to be Mikey and Nicky

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 30 January 2019 19:46 (ten months ago) link

cool, gonna try this out and see if I can deal with the inevitably shitty streaming quality. does anyone else live in a city with shit internet?

flappy bird, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 19:48 (ten months ago) link

xpost -- that it is.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 19:49 (ten months ago) link

Part of the reason I originally got an Amazon Fire TV was that Filmstruck was on there, now Criterion Channel won't be.

Chris L, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 19:51 (ten months ago) link

^me too

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 30 January 2019 20:22 (ten months ago) link

okay, seems like they worked it out because Amazon Fire is listed in supported tech now

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 4 February 2019 20:39 (ten months ago) link

Happy to learn today from the Bordwell blog that VHX is a temporary platform and that the Channel will have dedicated apps for the streaming devices at the April launch.

ILX Moderator: It's Like a Pressure Wash for Your Insides (WmC), Monday, 4 February 2019 20:54 (ten months ago) link

That does make much more sense. I'm fine with VHX for my own setup but it seemed kinda weird.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 4 February 2019 21:08 (ten months ago) link

Criterion's next preview movie is Chungking Express, oh darn.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 18:21 (ten months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Stalker is up

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Thursday, 21 February 2019 17:15 (nine months ago) link

A very good choice, that.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 February 2019 17:21 (nine months ago) link

Is the Roku app active yet? I searched for it but didn't see it.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 February 2019 17:32 (nine months ago) link

none of the apps are up until the official launch on april 8, per their messaging

na (NA), Thursday, 21 February 2019 17:34 (nine months ago) link

Yeah pretty much you have to use the VHX workaround until then.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 February 2019 17:36 (nine months ago) link

Should this thread title get changed?

zama roma ding dong (Eric H.), Thursday, 21 February 2019 17:58 (nine months ago) link

i'm trying to figure out if this will be basically the same criterion movies that were in filmstruck or if it'll be more complete. their website says "access to Criterion’s entire streaming library of more than 1,000 important classic and contemporary films from around the world" but what is their "streaming library"? presumably excludes some movies they don't hold streaming rights for?

na (NA), Thursday, 21 February 2019 18:00 (nine months ago) link

sparked by me wondering if i'll be able to rewatch Head on this thing

na (NA), Thursday, 21 February 2019 18:00 (nine months ago) link

xp yeah they have just under 1,000 titles in the collection but that includes OOP stuff like Citizen Kane, Do the Right Thing, Third Man, etc. I'd be surprised if they have their entire in print collection available to stream tbh.

flappy bird, Thursday, 21 February 2019 21:49 (nine months ago) link

The streaming library includes a fair amount of non-disc stuff like Bulldog Drummond movies and minor films by directors who have better-known films on CC disc. (Basil Dean, Anthony Asquith, Masahiro Shinoda, Keisuke Kinoshita, et al)

ILX Moderator: It's Like a Pressure Wash for Your Insides (WmC), Thursday, 21 February 2019 22:06 (nine months ago) link

> Masahiro Shinoda

Silence and Assassination turned up in the post today. what else is on CC?

koogs, Thursday, 21 February 2019 22:13 (nine months ago) link

The Channel had (and presumably will have) A Flame At the Pier, Assassin, Ballad of Orin, Double Suicide, Gonza the Spearman, Himiko, Killers On Parade, Love Old and New, Moonlight Serenade, One Way Ticket to Love, Our Marriage, Pale Flower, The Petrified Forest, Samurai Spy, The Scandalous Adventures of Buraikan, Silence, Under the Blossoming Cherry Trees, With Beauty and Sorrow, and Youth In Fury. I think they had his Sapporo Winter Olympics segment from the Olympic Films box. Only 4 of those are available on disc iirc.

ILX Moderator: It's Like a Pressure Wash for Your Insides (WmC), Thursday, 21 February 2019 22:52 (nine months ago) link

Woah!

koogs, Friday, 22 February 2019 04:16 (nine months ago) link

very nice

flappy bird, Friday, 22 February 2019 04:47 (nine months ago) link

Charles Burnett's To Sleep With Anger is this week's freebie.

ILX Moderator: It's Like a Pressure Wash for Your Insides (WmC), Wednesday, 27 February 2019 18:05 (nine months ago) link

I'm impressed with their commitment to bringing new disc releases to streaming! This week it's Barbara Loden's Wanda.

27 Discounts ILXors Get Only If They Know (WmC), Wednesday, 6 March 2019 18:15 (nine months ago) link

They may have had the newer titles' streaming rights all wrapped up, unlike older titles.

zama roma ding dong (Eric H.), Wednesday, 6 March 2019 18:22 (nine months ago) link

Maybe they'll have 4 Months, 3 Weeks and 2 Days up when the channel starts for real. Less than 5 weeks!

27 Discounts ILXors Get Only If They Know (WmC), Wednesday, 6 March 2019 18:51 (nine months ago) link

wanda is so so good and ahead of its era btw, see it if you haven't

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 6 March 2019 19:14 (nine months ago) link

yeah it's a hell of a movie. a tough watch too. CW for abusive relationships and sexual assault.

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 6 March 2019 19:44 (nine months ago) link

Wanda is phenomenal, saw it at a theater last fall. that final shot makes it

flappy bird, Wednesday, 6 March 2019 23:32 (nine months ago) link

two weeks pass...

April lineup announced: https://www.criterion.com/current/posts/6253-the-criterion-channel-announces-launch-lineup

WmC, Friday, 22 March 2019 15:16 (eight months ago) link

Damn, if you sign up as a charter subscriber w the annual subscription it's only $7.50 a month. Now that Hulu is free w/ Spotify I might actually jump on this

vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 22 March 2019 15:49 (eight months ago) link

I am seriously tempted. And then if Disney+ programming includes the 20th Century Fox films they just acquired, I am going to die seriously broke but happy.

Anne Hedonia (j.lu), Friday, 22 March 2019 15:52 (eight months ago) link

Fuck Disney.

zama roma ding dong (Eric H.), Friday, 22 March 2019 15:53 (eight months ago) link

I'm just going for the yearly subscription option -- prefer those one-shot setups over a monthly drip in combination with a lower overall price.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 March 2019 16:22 (eight months ago) link

xp IF Disney makes available the Fox films from the 1920s and 1930s that have been lingering in the vaults, I will forgive them a great many sins. Unfortunately I fear it's going to be a case of moving those films from the Fox archives into the vault where Song of the South is sequestered.

Anne Hedonia (j.lu), Friday, 22 March 2019 16:26 (eight months ago) link

A few have pointed out that Disney has been notoriously bad about letting stuff out of their vaults for repertory screenings. So there's that to maybe look forward to, as well.

zama roma ding dong (Eric H.), Friday, 22 March 2019 16:50 (eight months ago) link

the more mergers, the fewer films we see: fact

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 22 March 2019 16:51 (eight months ago) link

Well, for sure the fewer (new) films I see.

zama roma ding dong (Eric H.), Friday, 22 March 2019 16:59 (eight months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Goes live today!

(I downloaded the iOS app though it appears to be only partially working so far.)

zama roma ding dong (Eric H.), Monday, 8 April 2019 12:44 (eight months ago) link

Looks like content just showed up, hooray

Jared Kushner's Blows Against the Empire — C/D (WmC), Monday, 8 April 2019 12:51 (eight months ago) link

Hmm, the app and the site don't seem to be communicating well yet. I'm logged in on the app but it wants me to pick a plan and set up billing, something I did weeks ago on the site. Also the full streaming library isn't showing yet.

Jared Kushner's Blows Against the Empire — C/D (WmC), Monday, 8 April 2019 13:02 (eight months ago) link

Yeah, I don't think all the parts are fully connected yet. On the app, I see everything but it doesn't think I have a plan even after logging in. On the desktop, it shows I've signed up for the plan but it's not showing anything other than a dozen "coming attractions."

zama roma ding dong (Eric H.), Monday, 8 April 2019 13:07 (eight months ago) link

Yeah. I’ve got a similar situation.

Theorbo Goes Wild (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 8 April 2019 13:07 (eight months ago) link

Success! The lock icons have all suddenly disappeared and I'm streaming like a Russian racehorse.

Jared Kushner's Blows Against the Empire — C/D (WmC), Monday, 8 April 2019 13:30 (eight months ago) link

Lol, if not The Turin Horse.

Theorbo Goes Wild (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 8 April 2019 13:38 (eight months ago) link

Oh wow, they have Kiarostami's 24 Frames -- I didn't catch that when they announced April titles.

Jared Kushner's Blows Against the Empire — C/D (WmC), Monday, 8 April 2019 13:40 (eight months ago) link

what did you have to do?

Theorbo Goes Wild (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 8 April 2019 13:40 (eight months ago) link

From the Recently Added tab, go to View All and it's in there. Also, it looks like the entire streaming library is available if you know what you're looking for and get there via a search. They just don't have a way to browse it yet.

Jared Kushner's Blows Against the Empire — C/D (WmC), Monday, 8 April 2019 13:46 (eight months ago) link

I mean to get rid of the locks?

Theorbo Goes Wild (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 8 April 2019 13:48 (eight months ago) link

Oh, they just disappeared at some point. I did log out of the app and back in at one point, give that a shot.

Jared Kushner's Blows Against the Empire — C/D (WmC), Monday, 8 April 2019 13:49 (eight months ago) link

Still there. Maybe I never really signed up property. Did you ever get a “Start Watching” email? I didn’t.

Theorbo Goes Wild (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 8 April 2019 13:51 (eight months ago) link

I didn't either.

ILX Halftime Shows Ranked — Which Was the Best? (WmC), Monday, 8 April 2019 13:53 (eight months ago) link

Okay, I did find Thanks for Subscribing To Criterion Charter Channel email.

Theorbo Goes Wild (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 8 April 2019 13:55 (eight months ago) link

Ah, I think it will work if you quit and restart the app, not log out and log in.

ILX Halftime Shows Ranked — Which Was the Best? (WmC), Monday, 8 April 2019 14:05 (eight months ago) link

App's fully functional for me too.

Haven't tried to download anything just yet, but I'm thrilled that's an option for me too, what with a plane trip coming up next week!

zama roma ding dong (Eric H.), Monday, 8 April 2019 14:26 (eight months ago) link

Or maybe not. Not entirely sure how sync works yet, or if it works yet.

zama roma ding dong (Eric H.), Monday, 8 April 2019 14:31 (eight months ago) link

On iPhones?

Theorbo Goes Wild (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 8 April 2019 14:33 (eight months ago) link

So here's a question -- on Roku, looks like you're still supposed to use the VHX app. But I'm getting the same problem I had with a lot of the preview showings -- I can select the film, but I can't actually PLAY one. It just loops me back around to the film's selection screen. Any guesses?

Ned Raggett, Monday, 8 April 2019 14:54 (eight months ago) link

Okay, just kept pushing buttons and then all of a sudden “It is Alive!” Downloading something short to watch a bit during lunch.

Theorbo Goes Wild (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 8 April 2019 15:00 (eight months ago) link

I think there's supposed to be a CC app for Roku coming sometime during the day. I just checked our Roku in the living room and it's not available yet. xp

ILX Halftime Shows Ranked — Which Was the Best? (WmC), Monday, 8 April 2019 15:01 (eight months ago) link

That would follow. (Searching for Roku help on the site shows answers for a flicker of a second, so yeah, must not be live properly yet.)

Ned Raggett, Monday, 8 April 2019 15:09 (eight months ago) link

not working on ios (asking me to resubscribe again) and not available on Amazon just yet... looks like there are bugs to work out.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 8 April 2019 15:20 (eight months ago) link

yep, thanks!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 8 April 2019 16:05 (eight months ago) link

now live in Canada

Simon H., Monday, 8 April 2019 17:20 (eight months ago) link

Does the downloading actually work? It finally finished and now says

Could not play video

Sorry we encountered an issue when
playing this video. Code -11800
_______________________
OK

Theorbo Goes Wild (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 8 April 2019 17:41 (eight months ago) link

Yeah, no app via Roku for us yet ...

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 8 April 2019 17:54 (eight months ago) link

Posted on a forum:

"Update at 12:15 EST: I can get to the Roku app through the link on their website, but it says "The channel can not be added due to an unexpected error" when I try to install it. Anyone else getting it to work?
https://channelstore.roku.com/details/276871/the-criterion-channel";

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 8 April 2019 17:57 (eight months ago) link

Awesome, successfully added!!!!

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 8 April 2019 17:59 (eight months ago) link

Wait, not successful. Not only that, it says it can't find my email in its system ... despite me receiving emails from them. Hmm.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 8 April 2019 18:02 (eight months ago) link

And now ... working? Weirdness going on.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 8 April 2019 18:04 (eight months ago) link

Yeah convoluted but I'm good to go with Roku now, thanks!

Ned Raggett, Monday, 8 April 2019 18:26 (eight months ago) link

Meantime currently syncing up a film on my phone because I've got a flight later today and this'll help it pass brilliantly.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 8 April 2019 18:27 (eight months ago) link

*fingers crossed* that it will work properly for you

Theorbo Goes Wild (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 8 April 2019 18:30 (eight months ago) link

Successfully downloaded Chris Marker's Junktopia to my phone.

zama roma ding dong (Eric H.), Monday, 8 April 2019 18:39 (eight months ago) link

so is phone the only way to use it? I still haven't evolved toward watching moves on it.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 April 2019 18:40 (eight months ago) link

No, I've tested it and it currently works on both Roku and my desktop just fine, as well as my phone. It's good to go.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 8 April 2019 18:45 (eight months ago) link

Is there anywhere in the app or desktop version that lists a simple A-Z of all the films on there?

Position Position, Monday, 8 April 2019 18:54 (eight months ago) link

yeah, that was vexing me too

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 8 April 2019 18:55 (eight months ago) link

Nope

EZ Snappin, Monday, 8 April 2019 18:58 (eight months ago) link

I was getting an error message "Sorry, this video cannot be played while your device is connected to this external monitor" on Chrome (mac desktop), and a Reddit person has already done the helpdesk work. It's an HDCP issue -- the content plays fine on Safari.

ILX Halftime Shows Ranked — Which Was the Best? (WmC), Monday, 8 April 2019 19:20 (eight months ago) link

Don't think you can search by, say, genre yet, either.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 8 April 2019 19:47 (eight months ago) link

i'm getting the following error on Aazon Fire: "this device does not support secure video playback"

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 8 April 2019 22:26 (eight months ago) link

The channel is up and functional on my TV.

Anne Hedonia (j.lu), Monday, 8 April 2019 23:11 (eight months ago) link

So can one actually watch La Jetée if one has the desire to, or only some videos about La Jetée ?

Theorbo Goes Wild (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 8 April 2019 23:54 (eight months ago) link

La Jetée - It's not under its own name but it is available if you choose the double feature "Chris Marker meets 2 Live Crew". Just a mistake I guess.

Anyone else having this issue - When watching on my desktop, I get about 20-30 seconds of low quality pixelated movie before better quality kicks in. Happens at the start of films or when I move the time slider. Wish it would just spend longer buffering and start up with a good picture.

Roku app is up in Canada, though I haven't signed in yet to see how it works.

Hans Holbein (Chinchilla Volapük), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 00:07 (eight months ago) link

Desktop buffering has been the slowest for me too. iPhone and Apple TV it snaps almost immediately into full HD.

zama roma ding dong (Eric H.), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 00:30 (eight months ago) link

Does the downloading actually work? It finally finished and now says

*Could not play video*

Sorry we encountered an issue when
playing this video. Code -11800
_______________________
OK

Still getting this.

Theorbo Goes Wild (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 00:55 (eight months ago) link

Okay, sorry for posting that twice, just sent my complaint to them. Will see what they say.

Theorbo Goes Wild (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 01:21 (eight months ago) link

Tried their troubleshooting checklist now don’t To the last item and just reinstalled the app. Here goes nothing.

Theorbo Goes Wild (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 01:56 (eight months ago) link

Aargh. Nothing.

Theorbo Goes Wild (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 02:54 (eight months ago) link

It's the first day, folks.

Simon H., Tuesday, 9 April 2019 03:00 (eight months ago) link

Not a great first day

i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 07:23 (eight months ago) link

Worked on my Apple TV w/ no buffering, but I only watched Sofia Coppola's short film (which was really good + had Kim Deal on the soundtrack)

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 08:33 (eight months ago) link

> It's the first day, folks.

are they doing refunds for people who had gremlins?

koogs, Tuesday, 9 April 2019 08:53 (eight months ago) link

They’re not charging people yet, I believe

zama roma ding dong (Eric H.), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 12:15 (eight months ago) link

Anyone got a recommendation on where (or whether) to start with Aurismaki? I've seen nothing by him

rob, Tuesday, 9 April 2019 12:39 (eight months ago) link

Long filmography, but I would perhaps just start at the end. Le Havre and The Other Side of Hope. Then work backwards trilogy by trilogy.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 9 April 2019 12:55 (eight months ago) link

Shadows in Paradise xp

Chris L, Tuesday, 9 April 2019 13:23 (eight months ago) link

ha, thanks guys. Maybe I'll switch back and forth from start to end

rob, Tuesday, 9 April 2019 13:35 (eight months ago) link

Download playback problem has been reproduced by customer support and bug report has been filed!

Theorbo Goes Wild (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 13:44 (eight months ago) link

I mean, it's not like they've had months to work out any bugs. Glad they're on it now, at least.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 9 April 2019 14:41 (eight months ago) link

i couldn't find it in the roku channel store on my tv but got it installed on my tv via the web. watched part of hollywood shuffle and part of experiment in terror, the picture quality was great. navigation/organization seems similarly wonky to filmstruck. i wonder how frequently they'll add/swap out movies?

na (NA), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 14:46 (eight months ago) link

i had no "bugs" other than it not being in the channel store.

na (NA), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 14:46 (eight months ago) link

I thought this trailer was excellent

https://www.facebook.com/CriterionCollection/videos/2131081733833606/

piscesx, Tuesday, 9 April 2019 14:49 (eight months ago) link

I found it in the “just added” section of Roku’s streaming channels tab.

Chris L, Tuesday, 9 April 2019 14:50 (eight months ago) link

Sharing in case anyone else is getting "device does not support secure video playback" or similar HDCP errors:

The reason you’re having trouble right now is because Criterion is using DRM (Digital Rights Management) and HDCP (High-Bandwidth Digital Content Protection) in order to comply with the technical requirements, anti-piracy provisions, and territorial restrictions of their agreements with major studios and independent rights holders around the world. These technologies help prevent unauthorized playback and copying, but unfortunately they aren’t compatible with all viewing setups.

In order for a protected video to play back on your setup, your Fire TV and the TV it’s linked to need to be compatible with DRM and HDCP. You can check out this article for more information about DRM and HDCP.

While Fire TVs are generally supported, some models (especially older units) are not compatible with the way DRM is implemented on the app. I know it never goes over well to recommend upgrading your device, but this is likely the only way to access Criterion’s content on Fire TV (assuming the incompatibility isn’t related your TV).

Sorry I don't have better news for you right now :(

I think we have an old apple tv box somewhere around here that i'm gonna try, otherwise there's some likelihood this may work:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0089DSLMY/

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 15:31 (eight months ago) link

Apple TV requires v4 or later.

ILX Halftime Shows Ranked — Which Was the Best? (WmC), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 15:39 (eight months ago) link

having a weird thing where when I try to stream in Chrome it gives me an "external monitor is not supported" error but then it works fine in IE

Simon H., Tuesday, 9 April 2019 15:42 (eight months ago) link

I was getting an error message "Sorry, this video cannot be played while your device is connected to this external monitor" on Chrome (mac desktop), and a Reddit person has already done the helpdesk work. It's an HDCP issue -- the content plays fine on Safari.

― ILX Halftime Shows Ranked — Which Was the Best? (WmC), Monday, April 8, 2019 3:20 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

rob, Tuesday, 9 April 2019 16:17 (eight months ago) link

ah, durr. anyway it's only a mild irritant,.

Simon H., Tuesday, 9 April 2019 16:19 (eight months ago) link

I know their tech support must be slammed with a thousand versions of "how do I shot web," but I sent them my main request, which I made to Filmstruck constantly -- a page with a flat text-only table of everything available, sortable by title, director, year, country, runtime, genre and expiration date.

ILX Halftime Shows Ranked — Which Was the Best? (WmC), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 16:25 (eight months ago) link

It's the first day, folks.

― Simon H., Monday, April 8, 2019 11:00 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Not a great first day

― i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, April 9, 2019 3:23 AM (nine hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lmao

flappy bird, Tuesday, 9 April 2019 16:28 (eight months ago) link

doesn't this happen during every first day of a tech launch

flappy bird, Tuesday, 9 April 2019 16:29 (eight months ago) link

literally every single one

Simon H., Tuesday, 9 April 2019 16:29 (eight months ago) link

those aren't great first days either
all first days are bad
second days aren't much better
when do the good days start

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 16:37 (eight months ago) link

The technical bugs I can forgive. The only real bummer of the day for me was seeing Taste of Cherry's ruddy transfer hadn't been updated (yet, presumably).

zama roma ding dong (Eric H.), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 16:43 (eight months ago) link

a page with a flat text-only table of everything available, sortable by title, director, year, country, runtime, genre and expiration date.

i think ppl like this probably believe kind of like the streamer-service's analogue of the IT belief that secrecy about your systems is the best security - if they let people just KNOW what they have then they won't be able to lure people in by stimulating the instinct to browse and be fortuitously pleased to find something that wasn't the thing they were looking for which isn't actually there anyway and would cause disappointment if it were positively missed

j., Tuesday, 9 April 2019 23:34 (eight months ago) link

I had a quick look at scraping this from their web pages but they don't make it easy. There's no complete list but if you search for 'a' it lists 3000+ results and then proceeds to show them to you 8 to a page, meaning 400 page requests to get the whole thing (although that's not guaranteed to be complete)

And within the first couple of pages you start to see anomalies - things called "American version - prelude" which is actually a DVD extra for A Canterbury Tale but which doesn't list a director or year or country. No expiry date anywhere either, or running time, not as part of the search results page anyway.

koogs, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 00:36 (eight months ago) link

https://letterboxd.com/natethecyborg/list/every-film-available-on-the-criterion-channel/

This list is a start at compiling all the features and shorts currently available.

Anne Hedonia (j.lu), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 00:57 (eight months ago) link

Looks like a number of clever people on reddit have been busy. Here's one spreadsheet, which includes everything -- films, trailers, supplements, commentaries, etc. -- https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-ctl5IGVUqfkCH48DFUbLx0iQai9r6BLG9NStMwxPSw/edit#gid=210791698 (4176 items)

Here's a page with just the films, not the supplements, 1579 items -- https://tcclibrary.com/

ILX Halftime Shows Ranked — Which Was the Best? (WmC), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 01:54 (eight months ago) link

nice

Simon H., Wednesday, 10 April 2019 02:05 (eight months ago) link

i think this might be the push i need to buy a smart tv.
any recommendations?

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 04:15 (eight months ago) link

The list which is pictures of everything is just as unsearchable as the original, albeit in 9 pages rather than 400.

The spreadsheet has things called "audio commentary" in it. But saved me a job. Criterion is probably wondering why all these people are ddosing their webpages when they could offer their own list in a machine readable format, probably 1mb of data, tops.

koogs, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 06:24 (eight months ago) link

Anyway, they do seem to have Japanese things that aren't for sale anywhere and that I'd like to see again. Ozu's Tenement Gentleman for one. Yotsuya Ghost story as well (don't know if that's the classic version though). Pitfall.

Do they not do search by country?

koogs, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 06:33 (eight months ago) link

Have tried every combination of streaming devices, TVs, browsers, and cables in my house and still haven't been able to watch anything due to HDCP/external monitor errors. Finding it hard to justify buying a new TV(!) or other equipment in order to access one particular streaming service, so guessing I'll end up pulling the plug on this after the free trial, super disappointing, stupid DRM.

One Eye Open, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 13:00 (eight months ago) link

One Eye Open: apparently this fixes the problem? Not yet personally tested: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0089DSLMY/
https://www.lifewire.com/hdcp-error-3276299

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 13:06 (eight months ago) link

Thanks, yeah I ordered one up yesterday (not that exact one but a similar deal), got my fingers crossed, we'll see! Even if it works, it's annoying that buying it basically cancels out the cost savings of signing up early. Like I'm glad they're able to protect Jubal and the special features of Tanner '88 from the sinister threat of rapacious digital bootleggers, but still.

One Eye Open, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 13:17 (eight months ago) link

please report back; curious to hear if that does it.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 10 April 2019 14:01 (eight months ago) link

Doing a lot of random searching and clicking on that tcclibrary site. Finding that some films are not available in Canada. All the Olympic films and all of the John Ford, for instance. White material by Claire Denis. Presumably many others. Hopefully not too many!

Hans Holbein (Chinchilla Volapük), Thursday, 11 April 2019 03:55 (seven months ago) link

and i guess i finally decided to try a "smart tv"

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 11 April 2019 04:11 (seven months ago) link

The discs most likely to not be on CC are classic Hollywood. Well. And modern Hollywood.

Which, totally fine.

zama roma ding dong (Eric H.), Thursday, 11 April 2019 05:18 (seven months ago) link

At the top of the TCC Library site, notice that there's a flag next to the number of films. If it's on the US flag, click it and it'll change to the Canadian flag and the Canada-only films.

ILX Halftime Shows Ranked — Which Was the Best? (WmC), Thursday, 11 April 2019 11:59 (seven months ago) link

oooh, handy. thankfully not a huge discrepancy between the two

Simon H., Thursday, 11 April 2019 12:22 (seven months ago) link

What are known incompatibilities?
DRM-protected content will not work on the following:

Chromecast devices
Chromebooks
XBox One
Older models of Amazon Fire TV that are not Widevine L1 certified. However Fire TV Cube, Fire TV Gen 3, and Fire TV Stick 4K should work
All non-branded VHX apps
Linux systems

holy shit so a bulk of the library just... won't work on Chromecast?

vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 11 April 2019 16:00 (seven months ago) link

that blows. why do other streaming services not have the DRM compatibility issue?

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Thursday, 11 April 2019 16:43 (seven months ago) link

well...

But why can I watch content on other sites and apps?
Many sites and apps have different content protection requirements, and implement DRM solutions in a variety of different ways. Because of this, it’s likely that behaviors will be different across our content and theirs. However, if you’re using a supported browser or a dedicated app, and still having trouble, it might be due to HDCP protection.

vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 11 April 2019 17:08 (seven months ago) link

another update via Reddit

I sent an email to customer service asking about the Chromecast streaming problems. This is their reply:

I’m sorry you’re having trouble playing Criterion’s content on your Chromecast.

While we have plans to build Chromecast support in the coming months, right now the technology used for our DRM implementation is not compliant with Chromecast. I’m very sorry for the frustration and disappointment I know this must bring. In case you have other options, Criterion has an app for Apple TV, Amazon Fire, Roku, and Android TV. If you have a Smart TV, you can see if it’s a TV partner with Android apps here: https://www.android.com/tv/

vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 11 April 2019 17:10 (seven months ago) link

Yeah, this is all why i figured that a smart tv was worth a shot. I've had the same tube for about ten years and it has some weird buggy thing where it overheats occasionally and won't turn off unless you unplug it. Curious to see what this 4k shit is all about and it would be nice to be able to dial up mubi and criterion without any hassles... i might likely watch them more often

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 11 April 2019 17:39 (seven months ago) link

I wouldn't trust a smart TV for apps, get an AppleTV.

dan selzer, Thursday, 11 April 2019 18:36 (seven months ago) link

I actually just got a big "smart TV" yesterday. Runs on Roku, works great so far.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 April 2019 18:41 (seven months ago) link

Our last TV was 1080p, worked/works great, but the new one is huuuuuge and cost maybe half as much as that one did 7 years ago. I got a discounted floor model of a TV that was already on sale at Costco, and no joke, the person helping me politely asked for a second, walked off, then came back and offered it for another $50 off before I even said anything.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 April 2019 18:43 (seven months ago) link

yeah, i'm getting a TCL/Roku 43" for under $300. This shit got MUCH cheaper than the last time I bought a set... i think i paid 800 a decade ago for the one i currently have.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 11 April 2019 20:15 (seven months ago) link

Roku runs Android right? Really looking forward to having some flexibility with apps; my tivo is locked into Plex/YouTube/Hulu/HBO/Netflix/Amazon and that's about it.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 11 April 2019 20:16 (seven months ago) link

Tried one of the HDMI splitters for removing HDCP and no dice. Might could be I got the "wrong" one since I guess different ones work with different setups? But not interested in pursuing it further, just gonna pull the plug on this. Can't believe it can be so complicated to watch movies on TV in 2019.

After Filmstruck died I rebooted the DVD-thru-mail element of my Netflix subscription and honestly cant believe I ever stopped, they have like 98% of what was in my old queue, still lots of OOP Criterion stuff floating around in the system, think I'm just gonna keep riding that horse till they decide to put it down for good.

One Eye Open, Thursday, 11 April 2019 21:56 (seven months ago) link

xpost I don't think Roku is Android, I think it's its own thing? I only use it for Netflix/Amazon/Plex/Hulu and now Criterion, but they all seem to work.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 April 2019 22:03 (seven months ago) link

Honestly I fully don’t get the appeal of smart TVs when you can get a Roku for like $50 that will be way speedier, more stable, have way more channels, etc

vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 12 April 2019 00:43 (seven months ago) link

My smart tv is a top of the line Vizio from 2017 and it CRASHES!! Like it will freeze and I have to turn it off and back on and it takes like 30-60 sec!

vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 12 April 2019 00:44 (seven months ago) link

30-60 sec!

Sacre bleu!

Like my dedicated Roku was ever particularly reliable.

I didn't get a smart TV because it was a smart TV, I got a new TV that happened to be a smart TV (see also: 4K, HDR, etc, features that will have next to no bearing on what and how I watch but which are pretty much the default as of late). We'll see how it goes with crashes and stuff, but so far Plex at the least seems to work faster than it did via dedicated Roku.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 April 2019 01:03 (seven months ago) link

AppleTV is great, just fyi.

dan selzer, Friday, 12 April 2019 02:47 (seven months ago) link

I'm gonna plug an ethernet cable directly into this sucker; hope i'm not seeing the issues y'all are describing.
will keep apple tv in mind but i tried it years ago and was sorta meh. Then again i'm a devoted tivo guy so don't trust me.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 12 April 2019 05:17 (seven months ago) link

okay, so I got one of these:
https://www.tclusa.com/products/home-theater/4-series/tcl-43-class-4-series-4k-uhd-hdr-roku-smart-tv-43s425
and on day one, it's great! set up netflix, hulu, prime, plex, mubi, criterion, youtube, pbs, spotify for streaming easily and without a hiccup; tivo/switch/ps4 are more quickly accessible than they've ever been.picture quality seems fine, but i'm going to have to tinker. all in all, fixed the problems with a reasonably cheap entry point... presuming it don't bust shortly.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 12 April 2019 17:39 (seven months ago) link

asked and answered

https://films.criterionchannel.com

don't mock my smock or i'll clean your clock (silby), Friday, 12 April 2019 21:52 (seven months ago) link

Very nice.

The Carjackers Quickly Dumped ILX Once They Saw What Was Inside (WmC), Friday, 12 April 2019 22:02 (seven months ago) link

Sacre bleu!

American TV shows are 19 minutes long: if your TV just decides to turn itself off and takes 60 seconds to turn back on, you've missed over 5% of the programme.

blokes you can't rust (sic), Friday, 12 April 2019 22:06 (seven months ago) link

not missing much

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 April 2019 22:07 (seven months ago) link

xp, full film list not yet on the app tho'

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 12 April 2019 22:07 (seven months ago) link

Nope. And in the filter function, they created a button for the 1900s (0 results) but forgot the button for the 1910s. You can do that manually in the URL and get yr 13 results.

The Carjackers Quickly Dumped ILX Once They Saw What Was Inside (WmC), Friday, 12 April 2019 22:14 (seven months ago) link

Looks like the full film list won't come to the app or iOS. From the email they sent out this afternoon --

The number one request was for an “all films” list, and just in time for your viewing pleasure here it is! This desktop-only feature will allow you to see all the films on the Criterion Channel and organize them by title, director, year, and country. We hope this helps you navigate the more than 1,500 titles available now on the service!

The Carjackers Quickly Dumped ILX Once They Saw What Was Inside (WmC), Saturday, 13 April 2019 03:25 (seven months ago) link

i imagine the app will improve over the upcoming month. Even so, they've rolled out kinda haphazardly tbh.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 13 April 2019 14:47 (seven months ago) link

I mean, this is a boutique proposition, and for clearing the rights on this library alone, it’s cool. I was able to send off my Friday with Querelle and I was very happy.

zama roma ding dong (Eric H.), Saturday, 13 April 2019 15:57 (seven months ago) link

Is there a reason why some Criterion titles are apparently not available to stream? I subscribed to Filmstruck from the start and never saw The Harder They Come pop up, and it's not listed on the new channel, either.

Jazzbo, Saturday, 13 April 2019 17:13 (seven months ago) link

Prickly rightsholder one presumes.

don't mock my smock or i'll clean your clock (silby), Saturday, 13 April 2019 18:21 (seven months ago) link

Same reason Netflix or Prime don't have things, they don't own the streaming rights.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Saturday, 13 April 2019 18:38 (seven months ago) link

The All Films list is nice, but its usefulness is limited in that there is no way to use it to add films to one's own list, even by clicking through to the film.

Hans Holbein (Chinchilla Volapük), Saturday, 13 April 2019 21:12 (seven months ago) link

I noticed that, very frustrating.

The Carjackers Quickly Dumped ILX Once They Saw What Was Inside (WmC), Saturday, 13 April 2019 21:58 (seven months ago) link

enjoyed the bonus features for Wanda today
the documentary was kinda boring (all about acting!) but i enjoyed the interviews and hearing a little more from Barbara Loden herself

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Sunday, 14 April 2019 05:50 (seven months ago) link

HOLY SHIT THAT CUKOR LINEUP!!!

"Our Betters" is WONDERFUL and iirc never even made it to VHS (let alone DVD or Blu)

vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 30 April 2019 21:10 (seven months ago) link

yeah really excited for that--I've only seen Gaslight out of that whole list

rob, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 21:33 (seven months ago) link

B-b-but have you see the original Gaslight?

Theory of Every Zing (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 30 April 2019 21:35 (seven months ago) link

I have not! I didn't even know it existed until you posted that, but I do love Walbrook

rob, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 21:38 (seven months ago) link

screening on VHS at my house next week

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 30 April 2019 21:45 (seven months ago) link

two weeks pass...

"Our Betters" was pretty delightful--thanks for repping it Stevie. It's basically a filmed play but Constance Bennett and, especially, Violet Kemble-Cooper are such fun. And I don't know what to say about the last five minutes.

Also, I'm not one to swoon over women's fashion, but Bennett looks phenomenal in every scene:

https://pre-code.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/OurBetters26-650x493.jpg

I have to say, having spent the last five years in Canada at a loss for how to see classic/arty/etc cinema, this service has been a godsend. If only they'd put a My List link in the top nav.

rob, Friday, 17 May 2019 14:20 (six months ago) link

oh, ERNEST

vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 04:47 (six months ago) link

Had no idea Criterion was currently hosting a ton of Godzilla!

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 22:49 (six months ago) link

yeah filmstruck was too, seemed like part of their marketing strategy

j., Tuesday, 28 May 2019 23:07 (six months ago) link

So the Channel will have the full edition of Hedwig and the Angry Inch, supplements and such, three and a half weeks before the disc release, as in tomorrow. That's a pretty nice trick.

The Bite Game with Jim Lamprey (WmC), Saturday, 1 June 2019 02:26 (six months ago) link

two weeks pass...

July titles. Sorry it's an image, that's how I found them and I don't want to retype it.

https://i.imgur.com/8FrbOE1.jpg

I am curious (george) (slight return) (WmC), Friday, 21 June 2019 15:47 (five months ago) link

* = not available in Canada
** = limited engagement, leaves end of July

I am curious (george) (slight return) (WmC), Friday, 21 June 2019 15:50 (five months ago) link

Nice, re: Diary of a Chambermaid

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Friday, 21 June 2019 15:58 (five months ago) link

CC expirations, July through November, via some Facebook group person who saw it on reddit.

Leaving end of July 2019:

A Woman's Face (George Cukor, 1941)
Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice (Paul Mazursky, 1969)
Bottle Rocket (Wes Anderson, 1996)
Camille (George Cukor, 1936)
Dinner at Eight (George Cukor, 1933)
Easy Rider (Dennis Hopper, 1969)
Gaslight (George Cukor, 1944)
Girlfriends (Claudia Weill, 1978)
Little Women (George Cukor, 1933)
Midnight Cowboy (John Schlesinger, 1969)
Moonrise (Frank Borzage, 1948)
Mother (Albert Brooks, 1996)
Our Betters (George Cukor, 1933)
Robin and Marion (Richard Lester, 1976)
Sylvia Scarlett (George Cukor, 1935)
The Last Emperor (Bernardo Bertolucci, 1987)
The Night of the Hunter (Charles Laughton, 1955)
The Women (George Cukor, 1939)
Two-Faced Woman (George Cukor, 1941)
Uptight (Jules Dassin, 1968)
What Price Hollywood? (George Cukor, 1932)
White Heat (Raoul Walsh, 1949)

Leaving at end of August 2019:

Akira Kurosawa's Dreams (Akira Kurosawa, 1990)
Christopher Strong (Dorothy Arzner, 1933)
Craig's Wife (Dorothy Arzner, 1936)
Damn the Defiant! (Lewis Gilbert, 1962)
Dance, Girl, Dance (Dorothy Arzner, 1940)
Don't Look Now (Nicholas Roeg, 1973)
My Beautiful Laundrette (Stephen Frears, 1985)
Our Man in Havana (Carol Reed, 1959)
Performance (Donald Cammell & Nicholas Roeg, 1970)
Ran (Akira Kurosawa, 1985)
Scanners (David Cronenberg, 1981)
Something Wild (Jack Garfein, 1961)
The Card (Ronald Neame, 1952)
The Man Who Fell to Earth (Nicholas Roeg, 1976)
The Prisoner (Peter Glenville, 1955)
The Scapegoat (Robert Hamer, 1959)

Leaving at end of September 2019:

A Room with a View (James Ivory, 1985)
Adua and Her Friends (Antonio Pietrangeli, 1960)
After the Wedding (Susanne Bier, 2006)
Hoop Dreams (Steve James, 1994)
Kaili Blues (Bi Gan, 2015)
Nights of Cabiria (Federico Fellini, 1957)
Othello (Orson Welles, 1952)
Quiet as Kept (Charles Burnett, 2007)
Rocco and His Brothers (Luchino Visconti, 1960)
Room at the Top (Jack Clayton, 1959)
Several Friends (Charles Burnett, 1969)
Sightseers (Ben Wheatley, 2012)
The Final Insult (Charles Burnett, 1997)
The Horse (Charles Burnett, 1973)
The Widow Couderc (Pierre Granier-Deferre, 1971)
When it Rains (Charles Burnett, 1995)

Leaving at end of October 2019:

Archipelago (Joanna Hogg, 2010)
Claire's Camera (Hong Sang-soo, 2017)
Daddy Longlegs (Safdie Brothers, 2009)
Exhibition (Joanna Hogg, 2013)
I Killed My Mother (Xavier Doland, 2009)
Kaos (Tavania Brothers, 1984)
Meek's Cutoff (Kelly Reichardt, 2010)
On the Beach at Night Alone (Hong Sang-soo, 2017)
Padre Padrone (Tavania Brothers, 1977)
River of Grass (Kelly Reichardt, 1994)
The Day He Arrives (Hong Sang-soo, 2011)
The Fallen Idol (Carol Reed, 1948)
The Night of Shooting Stars (Tavania Brothers, 1982)
The Pleasure of Being Robbed (Josh Safdie, 2008)
The Shooting (Monte Hellman, 1966)
The Third Man (Carol Reed, 1949)
Time Bandits (Terry Gilliam, 1981)
Unrelated (Joanna Hogg, 2007)
Wendy and Lucy (Kelly Reichardt, 2008)

Leaving at end of November 2019:

The Love Witch (Anna Biller, 2016) (LEAVES NOVEMBER 7TH)
Viva (Anna Biller, 2007) (LEAVE NOVEMBER 7TH)
Battle in Heaven (Carles Reygadas, 2005)
Cemetary of Splendor (Apichatpong Weerasethakul, 2015)
Kind Hearts and Coronets (Robert Hamer, 1949)
Marwencol (Jeff Malmberg, 2010)
Silent Light (Carlos Reygadas, 2007)
Suburbia (Penelope Spheeris, 1983)
Syndromes and a Century (Apichatpong Weerasethakul, 2006)
The Captain's Paradise (Anthony Kimmins, 1953)
The Decline of Western Civilization (Penelope Spheeris, 1981)
The Decline of Western Civilization Part II: The Metal Years (Penelope Spheeris, 1988)
The Decline of Western Civilization Part III (Penelope Spheeris, 1998)
The Hours and Times (Christopher Munch, 1991)
The Lavender Hill Mob (Charles Crichton, 1951)
The Life and Adventures of Nicholas Nickleby (Alberto Cavalcanti, 1947)
The Maids (Christopher Miles, 1975)
The Man in the White Suit (Alexander Mackendrick, 1951)
The Plague Dogs (Martin Rosen, 1982)
The Tales of Beatrix Potter (Reginald Mills, 1971)
The Wicker Man (Robin Hardy, 1973)
Tropical Malady (Apichatpong Weerasethakul, 2004)
Uncle Boonmee Who Can Recall His Past Lives (Apichatpong Weerasethakul, 2010)
Yeelen (Souleymane Cissé, 1987)

I am curious (george) (slight return) (WmC), Sunday, 23 June 2019 15:16 (five months ago) link

Ugh. Too much pressure.

If I were a POLL I’d be Zinging (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 23 June 2019 15:30 (five months ago) link

watched girlfriends, elevator to the gallows, and the wicker man (rewatch) this weekend, all great

na (NA), Monday, 24 June 2019 15:52 (five months ago) link

> elevator to the gallows

in england we call this 'Lift To The Scaffold'.

koogs, Monday, 24 June 2019 15:59 (five months ago) link

i really enjoyed that one (no matter what you call it), a noir subverted by french irony

na (NA), Monday, 24 June 2019 16:02 (five months ago) link

yes. cool and tense.

koogs, Monday, 24 June 2019 16:07 (five months ago) link

Most of the July titles added today (Bondarchuk War & Peace to come later) and I'm in hog heaven. Gonna pingpong between Fred & Ginger and Bruno Dumont.

Manfred Hemming-Hawing (WmC), Monday, 1 July 2019 18:44 (five months ago) link

Correction, War & Peace is up as well. https://www.criterionchannel.com/war-and-peace-1

Manfred Hemming-Hawing (WmC), Monday, 1 July 2019 20:09 (five months ago) link

three weeks pass...

Complete list of films premiering on the Criterion Channel in August:

24 Frames Per Century, Athina Rachel Tsangari, 2013
Aguirre, the Wrath of God, Werner Herzog, 1972
America America, Elia Kazan, 1963
American Gigolo, Paul Schrader, 1980
And You Act Like One Too, Susan Seidelman, 1976
Angst Isst Seele Auf, Shahbaz Noshir, 2002
Aria Diva, Agnieszka Smoczyńska, 2007
Ars, Jacques Demy, 1959
Attenberg, Athina Rachel Tsangari, 2010
Baby, D. A. Pennebaker, 1954
Baby Face, Alfred E. Green, 1933
Ballad of the Little Soldier, Werner Herzog, 1984
Beauty and the Devil, René Clair, 1950
Best Offer, Lisa Krueger, 1993
Bezhin Meadow, Sergei Eisenstein, 1937
Black Jack, Ken Loach, 1979
Blackmail, Alfred Hitchcock, 1929
Blancanieves, Pablo Berger, 2012
The Capsule, Athina Rachel Tsangari, 2012
Cassis, Jonas Mekas, 1966
A Chairy Tale, Claude Jutra and Norman McLaren, 1957
Champagne, Alfred Hitchcock, 1928
Chevalier, Athina Rachel Tsangari, 2015
Chiefs, Richard Leacock and Noel E. Parmentel Jr., 1968
Close to Home, Erik Skjoldbjærg, 1994
Cobra Verde, Werner Herzog, 1987
Creative Nonfiction, Lena Dunham, 2009
Crisis, Ingmar Bergman, 1946
Diary of a Country Priest, Robert Bresson, 1951
Diary of Yunbogi, Nagisa Oshima, 1965
Dog, Andrea Arnold, 2001
The Emigrants, Jan Troell, 1971
The Enigma of Kasper Hauser, Werner Herzog, 1974
Entr’acte, René Clair, 1924
Europa—The Faecal Location, Thomas Gislason, 2005
Even Dwarfs Started Small, Werner Herzog, 1970
Ever in My Heart, Archie Mayo, 1933
The Face, Piotr Studzinski, 1966
A Farewell to Arms, Frank Borzage, 1932
The Fat and the Lean, Roman Polanski, 1961
Fata Morgana, Werner Herzog, 1971
Fatherland, George Sikharulidze, 2017
Female Trouble, John Waters, 1974
Fit, Athina Rachel Tsangari, 1994
Fitzcarraldo, Werner Herzog, 1982
For Me and My Gal, Busby Berkely, 1942
Forbidden, Frank Capra, 1932
The Fountain, Lena Dunham, 2007
Gambling Lady, Archie Mayo, 1934
Geometria, Guillermo del Toro, 1987
A Girl’s Own Story, Jane Campion, 1983
Godard 1980, Jon Jost, Donald Ranvaud, and Peter Wollen, 1980
The Hall Runner, Guy Maddin, 2014
Hare Krishna, Jonas Mekas, 1966
Heart of Glass, Werner Herzog, 1976
Hooker on Campus, Lena Dunham, 2007
Illicit, Archie Mayo, 1931
The Immigrant, Charlie Chaplin, 1917
Interlude in the Marshland, Jan Troell, 1965
Jamaica Inn, Alfred Hitchcock, 1939
Jonas Mekas in Kodachrome Days, Ken Jacobs, 2009
L’amour existe, Maurice Pialat, 1960
La luxure, Jacques Demy, 1962
La villa Santo-Sospir, Jean Cocteau, 1951
Ladies of Leisure, Frank Capra, 1930
Ladies They Talk About, Howard Bretherton, 1933
Land of Silence and Darkness, Werner Herzog, 1971
Le coup du berger, Jacques Rivette, 1956
Le sabotier du Val de Loire, Jacques Demy, 1956
Les escargots, Rene Laloux and Roland Topor, 1966
Les horizons morts, Jacques Demy, 1951
Les temps morts, Rene Laloux and Roland Topor, 1965
Lessons of Darkness, Werner Herzog, 1992
Letter to Jane, Jean-Luc Godard, 1972
Little Dieter Needs to Fly, Werner Herzog, 1997
Lost Lost Lost, Jonas Mekas, 1976
Louis Riel for Dinner, Guy Maddin, 2014
M le maudit, Claude Chabrol, 1982
Mammals, Roman Polanski, 1962
The Manchurian Candidate, John Frankenheimer, 1962
Man’s Castle, Frank Borzage, 1933
Manny & Lo, Lisa Krueger, 1996
Marseille, Marcel Pagnol, 1935
Max by Marcel, Marcel Ophuls, 2009
Milk, Andrea Arnold, 1998
The Miracle Woman, Frank Capra, 1931
Murder, Roman Polanski, 1957
Murder!, Alfred Hitchcock, 1930
The Musicians, Kazimierz Karabasz, 1960
My Best Fiend, Werner Herzog
Near Winter, Erik Skjoldbjærg, 1993
The New Land, Jan Troell, 1972
Nice and Friendly, Charlie Chaplin, 1922
A Night in the Show, Charles Chaplin, 1915
Night Nurse, William A. Wellman, 1931
No C4 for Daniel-Daniel, Rémy Belvaux, André Bonzel, and Benoit Poelvoorde, 1989
No Greater Glory, Frank Borzage, 1934
Nosferatu the Vampyre, Werner Herzog, 1979
Notes on the Circus, Jonas Mekas 1966
On purge bébé, Jean Renoir, 1931
Only Dream Things, Guy Maddin, 2012
Open the Door, Lena Dunham, 2007
Paradise: Faith, Ulrich Seidl, 2012**
Paradise: Hope, Ulrich Seidl, 2013**
Paradise: Love, Ulrich Seidl, 2012**
Physical Pinball, David Gordon Green, 1998
Pleasant Grove, David Gordon Green, 1996
Police Story 1, Jackie Chan, 1985
Police Story 2, Jackie Chan, 1988
Pressure, Lena Dunham, 2006
The Purchase Price, William Wellman, 1932
Report from Millbrook, Jonas Mekas, 1966
Rich and Strange, Alfred Hitchcock, 1931
The Rink, Charles Chaplin, 1916
Sacrilège, Christophe M. Saber
Sculptures by Sofu—Vita, Hiroshi Teshigahara, 1963
Shall We Go to Your or My, Place or Each Go Home Alone?, Lasse Hallström, 1973
Sinclair, Guy Maddin, 2010
The Skin Game, Alfred Hitchcock, 1931
The Slow Business of Going, Athina Rachel Tsangari, 2000
So Big!, William A. Wellman, 1932
Spanky: To the Pier and Back, Guy Maddin, 2008
Stereo, David Cronenberg, 1969
Stroszek, Werner Herzog, 1977
Teeth Smile, Roman Polanski, 1957
Time and Fortune Vietnam Newsreel, Jonas Mekas, 1969
Trainspotting, Danny Boyle, 1996
Travel Songs, Jonas Mekas, 1981
The Triplets of Belleville, Sylvain Chomet, 2003**
True Stories, David Byrne, 1986
Two Men and a Wardrobe, Roman Polanski, 1958
Viva Maria!, Agnieszka Smoczyńska, 2010
Waiting Women, Ingmar Bergman, 1952
Walden, Jonas Mekas, 1968
When Angels Fall, Roman Polanski, 1959
Where the Green Ants Dream, Werner Herzog, 1984
Wild Reeds, André Téchiné, 1994
Williamsburg, Brooklyn, Jonas Mekas, 2003
The Witnesses, André Téchiné, 2007**
Women of the Resistance, Liliana Cavani, 1965
Woyzeck, Werner Herzog, 1979
You Can’t Do Everything at Once, But You Can Leave Everything at Once, Marie-Elsa Sgualdo, 2013
Yours Truly, Andrea G. Stern, Susan Seidelman, 1979
Zorgon: The H-Bomb Beast from Hell, Kevin Feman, 1972

**Not available in Canada

Manfred Hemming-Hawing (WmC), Monday, 22 July 2019 19:00 (four months ago) link

Well of course they put up all the Herzog AFTER my free trial ended...

My nephew accidentally swalled five quarters and thee dimes. (Old Lunch), Monday, 22 July 2019 19:07 (four months ago) link

The Herzog movies are on various film streaming sites.

Chris L, Monday, 22 July 2019 19:32 (four months ago) link

finally the pent-up demand for Lena Dunham's juvenilia will be sated

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Monday, 22 July 2019 19:48 (four months ago) link

I hate to be that guy, but I was thinking about getting the Jackie Chan set before the end of the B&N sale and now I won't.

Manfred Hemming-Hawing (WmC), Monday, 22 July 2019 20:24 (four months ago) link

Why just those two Chan films? I demand Supercop!

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 22 July 2019 20:57 (four months ago) link

It just occurred to me that the boy in The Night of the Hunter, which I am rewatching for the first time in a while since it is about to expire, reminds me a little of Buck Owens.

U or Astro-U? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 29 July 2019 01:51 (four months ago) link

Seems like there is a band named after the old uncle who lives on the river.

U or Astro-U? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 29 July 2019 02:11 (four months ago) link

Why just those two Chan films? I demand Supercop

the Police Stories had 4K restorations and US theatrical re-releases this year - they ran at at least three different theatres across six months in Seattle

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Monday, 29 July 2019 02:15 (four months ago) link

three weeks pass...

Complete list of films premiering on the Criterion Channel in September:

35 Shots of Rum, Claire Denis, 2008**
A Dry White Season, Euzhan Palcy, 1989
A Kind of Loving, John Schlesinger, 1962
All Screwed Up, Lina Wertmüller, 1974
Barbara, Christian Petzold, 2012
Behind the White Glasses, Valerio Ruiz, 2015
Billy Liar, John Schlesinger, 1963
Bob le flambeur, Jean-Pierre Melville, 1956
The Chicken, Una Gunjak, 2014
Darling, John Schlesinger, 1965
David Lynch: The Art Life, Jon Nguyen, Rick Barnes, and Olivia Neergaard-Holm, 2016
Escape from New York, John Carpenter, 1981
The Falcon and the Snowman, John Schlesinger, 1985
Ferdinando and Carolina, Lina Wertmüller, 1999
Fishing with John, John Lurie, 1992
Fire over England, William K. Howard, 1937
Grand Illusion, Jean Renoir, 1937
Honky Tonk Freeway, John Schlesinger, 1981**
Jerichow, Christian Petzold, 2008**
Le cercle rouge, Jean-Pierre Melville, 1970
Le doulos, Jean-Pierre Melville, 1962
Le trou, Jacques Becker, 1960
Leon Morin, Priest, Jean-Pierre Melville, 1961
Les misérables, Raymond Bernard, 1934
Love and Anarchy, Lina Wertmüller, 1973
Marathon Man, John Schlesinger, 1976
Midnight Cowboy, John Schlesinger, 1969
Mobilize, Caroline Monnet, 2015**
Of Mice and Men, Lewis Milestone, 1939
Oh! What a Lovely War, Richard Attenborough, 1969
On the Border, Wei Shujun, 2018
Perfect Understanding, Cyril Gardner, 1933
Phantom India, Louis Malle, 1969
The Seduction of Mimi, Lina Wertmüller, 1972
Seven Beauties, Lina Wertmüller, 1975
Sparrows Can't Sing, Joan Littlewood, 1963
Stalag 17, Billy Wilder, 1953
Summer Night, Lina Wertmüller, 1986
Sunday Bloody Sunday, John Schlesinger, 1971
Swept Away, Lina Wertmüller, 1974
Two Men in Manhattan, Jean-Pierre Melville, 1959
Un flic, Jean-Pierre Melville, 1972
Upstream Color, Shane Carruth, 2013
War Requiem, Derek Jarman, 1989
When You Read This Letter, Jean-Pierre Melville, 1953**
Wuthering Heights, William Wyler, 1939
Yella, Christian Petzold, 2007**

The Chronicles of Ermagerd (WmC), Tuesday, 20 August 2019 23:28 (three months ago) link

hell yeah Upstream Color + Seven Beauties

Simon H., Wednesday, 21 August 2019 05:25 (three months ago) link

The 'Directed by Ida Lupino' series is great, all the movies are GREAT, some of them have been easily available before, but not really all of these collected. The great shame is that OUTRAGE is not included.

abcfsk, Wednesday, 21 August 2019 07:52 (three months ago) link

I could have sworn that a bunch of early Kiarostami shorts were coming to the channel, but I can't remember where I read it now. Maybe I was thinking about that IFC retrospective.

The Chronicles of Ermagerd (WmC), Sunday, 25 August 2019 20:10 (three months ago) link

three weeks pass...

Complete list of films premiering on the Criterion Channel in October:

24 Frames Per Second, Shirley Clarke, 1977
The Adventures of Prince Achmed, Lotte Reiniger, 1926
Arsenic and Old Lace, Frank Capra, 1944
Bad at Dancing, Joanna Arnow, 2015
The Beaning, Sean McCoy, 2017
Bedlam, Mark Robson, 1946
Blood Feast, Herschell Gordon Lewis, 1963
The Body Snatcher, Robert Wise, 1945
Bridges-Go-Round 1, Shirley Clarke, 1958
Bridges-Go-Round 2, Shirley Clarke, 1958
Brussels Film Loops/Gestures/World Kitchen, D. A. Pennebaker and Shirley Clarke, 1957
Bullfight, Shirley Clarke, 1955
Burn!, Gillo Pontecorvo, 1969
Butterfly, Shirley Clarke, 1967
Carving Magic, Herschell Gordon Lewis, 1959
Cat People, Jacques Tourneur, 1942
Christopher and Me, Richard Leacock, 1960
Color Me Blood Red, Herschell Gordon Lewis, 1965
The Connection, Shirley Clarke, 1961
The Curse of the Cat People, Robert Wise, Gunther von Fritsch, 1944
Dance in the Sun, Shirley Clarke, 1953
The Devils, Ken Russell, 1971
The Devil’s Backbone, Guillermo del Toro, 2001**
Fast, Cheap & Out of Control, Errol Morris, 1997
The Fog of War, Errol Morris, 2003
Four Journeys into Mystic Time: Initiation, Shirley Clarke, 1978
Four Journeys into Mystic Time: Mysterium, Shirley Clarke, 1978
Four Journeys into Mystic Time: One-Two-Three, Shirley Clarke, 1978
Four Journeys into Mystic Time: Trans, Shirley Clarke, 1978
Freaks, Tod Browning, 1932
Frida, Julie Taymor, 2002
The Ghost Ship, Mark Robson, 1943
A Girl Walks Home Alone at Night, Ana Lily Amirpour, 2014
The Gore Gore Girls, Herschell Gordon Lewis, 1972
The Gruesome Twosome, Herschell Gordon Lewis, 1967
Herschell Gordon Lewis: The Godfather of Gore, Frank Henenlotter and Jimmy Maslon, 2010
I Walk Alone, Byron Haskin, 1947
I Walked with a Zombie, Jacques Tourneur, 1943
In Paris Parks, Shirley Clarke, 1954
Invasion of the Body Snatchers, Don Siegel, 1956
Isle of the Dead, Mark Robson, 1945
A Japanese Tragedy, Keisuke Kinoshita, 1953
The Leopard Man, Jacques Tourneur, 1943
The Living Idol, Albert Lewin and René Cardona, 1957
A Moment in Love, Shirley Clarke, 1956
The Old Dark House, James Whale, 1932
Ornette: Made in America, Shirley Clarke, 1985
Out of the Past, Jacques Tourneur, 1947
Persepolis, Marjane Satrapi and Vincent Paronnaud, 2007
Portrait of Jason, Shirley Clarke, 1967
Robert Frost: A Lover’s Quarrel with the World, Shirley Clarke, 1963
Robinson Crusoe on Mars, Byron Haskin, 1964
Savage/Love, Shirley Clarke, 1981
A Scary Time, Shirley Clarke and Robert Hughes, 1960
The Seventh Victim, Mark Robson, 1943
Skyscraper, Shirley Clarke and Willard Van Dyke, 1959
Stars in My Crown, Jacques Tourneur, 1950
Tabloid, Errol Morris, 2010
Tongues, Shirley Clarke, 1982
Two Thousand Maniacs!, Herschell Gordon Lewis, 1964
Val Lewton: The Man in the Shadows, Kent Jones, 2007
Vernon, Florida, Errol Morris, 1981
The War of the Worlds, Byron Haskin, 1953
Weekends, Trevor Jimenez, 2017
The Wizard of Gore, Herschell Gordon Lewis, 1970

**Available in the US only

WmC, Friday, 20 September 2019 17:35 (two months ago) link

Val Lewton AND Herschell Gordon Lewis? Nice.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Friday, 20 September 2019 17:46 (two months ago) link

The Devils, Ken Russell, 1971

HIOH!

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 20 September 2019 17:46 (two months ago) link

The Beaning, Sean McCoy, 2017
An experimental documentary exploring a sinister theory surrounding the death of Cleveland baseball player Ray Chapman in 1920 and the subsequent rise of the Yankee dynasty.

Sold. I wonder if a Morbius has seen this.

WmC, Friday, 20 September 2019 18:11 (two months ago) link

Need to see some Criterion editions of those Herschell Gordon Lewis films!

Josefa, Friday, 20 September 2019 18:15 (two months ago) link

Wish I could check these out!

Now on the Channel, we're celebrating the films of Lina Wertmüller! Provocative, outrageous, and larger-than-life, the films of the Italian fimmaker thrilled & shocked audiences with their heady blend of sex, politics, and satire. https://t.co/crr5DwfYX8

— Criterion Channel (@criterionchannl) September 25, 2019

flappy bird, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 17:17 (two months ago) link

i have never heard of The Beaning, WmC.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 27 September 2019 19:53 (two months ago) link

Watching Naruse on this channel has been my #1 pleasure of 2019. Watch his final film Scattered Clouds, plz.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 27 September 2019 20:14 (two months ago) link

xp -- sub-sub-Guy Maddin, meh. Oh well.

WmC, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 02:29 (two months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Complete list of films premiering on the Criterion Channel during November:

12 Angry Men, Sidney Lumet, 1957
An American in Paris, Vincente Minnelli, 1951
And Life Goes On, Abbas Kiarostami, 1992
The Arbor, Clio Barnard, 2010**
The Band Wagon, Vincente Minnelli, 1953
The Barkleys of Broadway, Charles Walters, 1949
Big Night, Campbell Scott and Stanley Tucci, 1996
Blow Out, Brian De Palma, 1981
Brigadoon, Vincente Minnelli, 1954**
Broadway Melody of 1940, Norman Taurog, 1940
Cabin in the Sky, Vincente Minnelli, 1943
Caché, Michael Haneke, 2005
The Conversation, Francis Ford Coppola, 1974
The Cook, the Thief, His Wife & Her Lover, Peter Greenaway, 1989
Corpo celeste, Alice Rohrwacher, 2011
Crocus, Suzan Pitt, 1971
Dear Phone, Peter Greenaway, 1976
Death of the Soundman, Sorayos Prapapan, 2017
Delicatessen, Jean-Pierre Jeunet and Marc Caro, 1991
Diva, Jean-Jacques Beineix, 1981
El doctor, Suzan Pitt, 2006
The Draughtsman’s Contract, Peter Greenaway, 1982
Easter Parade, Charles Walters, 1948
Eat Drink Man Woman, Ang Lee, 1994
An Elephant Sitting Still, Hu Bo, 2018
A Face in the Crowd, Elia Kazan, 1957
The Falls, Peter Greenaway, 1980
Five Easy Pieces, Bob Rafelson, 1970
Give a Girl a Break, Stanley Donen, 1953
H Is for House, Peter Greenaway, 1976
Hacked Circuit, Deborah Stratman, 2014
The Harder They Come, Perry Henzell, 1972
The Harvey Girls, George Sidney, 1946
Homework, Abbas Kiarostami, 1989
I Don’t Want to Sleep Alone, Tsai Ming-liang, 2006
I Love Melvin, Don Weis, 1953
In the Good Old Summertime, Robert Z. Leonard, 1949
The Inland Sea, Lucille Carra, 1991
Intervals, Peter Greenaway, 1969
It’s Always Fair Weather, Stanley Donen and Gene Kelly, 1955
Jefferson Circus Songs, Suzan Pitt, 1973
Joy Street, Suzan Pitt, 1995
Just Another Girl on the I.R.T., Leslie Harris, 1992
Kes, Ken Loach, 1969
The King of Marvin Gardens, Bob Rafelson, 1972
Klute, Alan J. Pakula, 1971
The Last Detail, Hal Ashby, 1973
Lili, Charles Walters, 1953
The Lives of Others, Florian Henckel von Donnersmarck, 2006**
Meet Me in St Louis, Vincente Minnelli, 1944
Mulholland Dr., David Lynch, 2001
Near Dark, Kathryn Bigelow, 1987
No Place Like Home, Perry Henzell, 2006
On the Town, Stanley Donen and Gene Kelly, 1949
Oslo, August 31st, Joachim Trier, 2011**
The Pillow Book, Peter Greenaway, 1996**
Pinball, Suzan Pitt, 2013
The Pirate, Vincente Minnelli, 1948
Prospero’s Books, Peter Greenaway, 1991
Raging Sun, Raging Sky, Julián Hernández, 2009
Reprise, Joachim Trier, 2006
Seven Brides for Seven Brothers, Stanley Donen, 1954
Stranger by the Lake, Alain Guiraudie, 2013**
Summer Stock, Charles Walters, 1950
That’s Entertainment!, Jack Haley Jr., 1974
They Live By Night, Nicholas Ray, 1948
Through the Olive Trees, Abbas Kiarostami, 1994
Vertical Features Remake, Peter Greenaway, 1978
Visitation, Suzan Pitt, 2011
A Walk Through H, Peter Greenaway, 1978
Water Wrackets, Peter Greenaway, 1990
Windows, Peter Greenaway, 1975
The Wonders, Alice Rohrwacher, 2014
Yentl, Barbra Streisand, 1983
A Zed & Two Noughts, Peter Greenaway, 1985

**Available in the U.S. only

Galangal Baker (WmC), Monday, 21 October 2019 20:46 (one month ago) link

Near Dark!!!!

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 21 October 2019 21:06 (one month ago) link

Excited for the Kiarostamis, Greenaways (the ones I haven't seen already), Kes, Near Dark, tons of others.

Galangal Baker (WmC), Monday, 21 October 2019 21:16 (one month ago) link

Oh, and finally a rewatch or two of Caché.

Galangal Baker (WmC), Monday, 21 October 2019 21:21 (one month ago) link

Nice to see a Tsai film, hope they'll do more.

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Monday, 21 October 2019 21:26 (one month ago) link

It's Greenaway month.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 21 October 2019 22:00 (one month ago) link

one month passes...

Complete list of films premiering on the Criterion Channel in December:

Alfie, Lewis Gilbert, 1966
Aves, Nietzchka Keene, 1994
The Best Years of Our Lives, William Wyler, 1946
Black Legion, Archie Mayo, 1937
The Black Stallion, Carroll Ballard, 1979
The Breaking Point, Michael Curtiz, 1950
The Cabin in the Cotton, Michael Curtiz, 1932
Dark Victory, Edmund Goulding, 1939
Dead End, William Wyler, 1937
Diamantino, Gabriel Abrantes and Daniel Schmidt, 2019
Dodsworth, William Wyler, 1936
Elles, Małgorzata Szumowska, 2011
Everyone Else, Maren Ade, 2009**
The Forest for the Trees, Maren Ade, 2003**
The Friends of Eddie Coyle, Peter Yates, 1973
Front Page Woman, Michael Curtiz, 1935
Get Carter, Mike Hodges, 1971
Girlhood, Céline Sciamma, 2014
Gold Diggers of 1933, Mervyn LeRoy, 1933
He Ran All the Way, John Berry, 1951
Hell’s House, Howard Higgin, 1932
Hinterland, Nietzchka Keene, 1983
In This Our Life, John Huston, 1942
The Italian Job, Peter Collinson, 1969
Jezebel, William Wyler, 1938
The Juniper Tree, Nietzchka Keene, 1990
Kid Galahad, Michael Curtiz, 1937
Killer’s Kiss, Stanley Kubrick, 1955
The Killing, Stanley Kubrick, 1956
The Letter, William Wyler, 1940
The Little Foxes, William Wyler, 1941
The Lovers on the Bridge, Leos Carax, 1991
The Man Who Came to Dinner, William Keighley, 1942
Marked Woman, Lloyd Bacon, 1937
Mauvais sang, Leos Carax, 1986
The Miracle of Morgan’s Creek, Preston Sturges, 1944
Mr. Skeffington, Vincent Sherman, 1944
Murder on the Orient Express, Sidney Lumet, 1974
Now, Voyager, Irving Rapper, 1942
Of Human Bondage, John Cromwell, 1934
The Old Maid, Edmund Goulding, 1939
Oliver!, Carol Reed, 1968
The Petrified Forest, Archie Mayo, 1936
The Private Lives of Elizabeth and Essex, Michael Curtiz, 1939
Red Road, Andrea Arnold, 2006
Rififi, Jules Dassin, 1955**
Scarlet Street, Fritz Lang, 1945
Something Wild, Jonathan Demme, 1986
The Shop Around the Corner, Ernst Lubitsch, 1940
Still, Nietzchka Keene, 1978
These Three, William Wyler, 1936
Three on a Match, Mervyn LeRoy, 1932
Terms of Endearment, James L. Brooks, 1983**
Tomboy, Céline Sciamma, 2011
The Unbearable Lightness of Being, Philip Kaufman, 1988
Water Lilies, Céline Sciamma, 2007
The Westerner, William Wyler, 1940
The Woman in the Window, Fritz Lang, 1944
Wren Boys, Harry Lighton, 2017
Wuthering Heights, Andrea Arnold, 2011

**Available in the U.S. only

WmC, Monday, 25 November 2019 19:46 (two weeks ago) link

The Juniper Tree is the one starring a very young Björk and it's pretty great, bleak and silent and witchy.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 25 November 2019 20:53 (two weeks ago) link

Yeah, I recall seeing that on VHS as a youngster. It stays with you, or at least it stayed with me.

Simon H., Monday, 25 November 2019 20:55 (two weeks ago) link

Oh wow, they've also got Aves, Keene's short film she made after the Juniper Tree... not sure there's been any way to easily see that until now.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 25 November 2019 21:19 (two weeks ago) link

The Juniper Tree is the one starring a very young Björk and it's pretty great, bleak and silent and witchy.

not VERY young! her first album was recorded when she was 11, and she had another five out as an adult by the time she made the movie (at 25)

insecurity bear (sic), Monday, 25 November 2019 21:41 (two weeks ago) link

(it had a minor theatrical re-release in the US this year, definitely haunting)

insecurity bear (sic), Monday, 25 November 2019 21:42 (two weeks ago) link

some solid Teresa Wright movies in there (esp. The Best Years of Our Lives)

flappy bird, Monday, 25 November 2019 23:14 (two weeks ago) link

I was trying to figure out the bundles from that list -- directed by Wyler, directed by Curtiz, starring Bette Davis -- I guess maybe a Starring Teresa Wright bundle as well?

WmC, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 00:20 (two weeks ago) link

Shadow of a Doubt? Pride of the Yankees?

Irae Louvin (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 00:38 (two weeks ago) link

not VERY young! her first album was recorded when she was 11, and she had another five out as an adult by the time she made the movie (at 25)
It was filmed in 1986 (came out in 1990), so she would have been 20 or 21 at the time.

Jazzbo, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 15:03 (two weeks ago) link

I think we can all agree it is the Icelandic equivalent of watching Baby Yoda

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 15:48 (two weeks ago) link


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