ILM Ballot Polls for 2014 and beyond -- order, timing, "I would have voted if I'd known about it," etc

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Also the 'timbaland' signature sound started in 1996. Assuming you were 20 in 1996 you're 40 now so Timbaland is also old, dad music.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 9 September 2016 19:40 (seven years ago) link

We need a Wire poll. I will be more than happy to run that.

kornrulez6969, Saturday, 10 September 2016 17:31 (seven years ago) link

Who'd be in, who'd be out though? Are we including the Third Eye Foundation/Crescent/Flying Saucer Attack/Amp/Movietone Bristol scene? I think you have to.

― Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 9 September 2016 16:02 (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Not sure I see those bands necessarily being connected to Massive Attack other than geographically, could make a stronger argument for including Neneh, Smith & Mighty, Fresh Four, Krust, Roni Size, Kosheen etc

― Rae Kwoniff (NickB)

I dunno, if I were to do it I might keep it simple and limited to Portishead, Massive Attack and Tricky if that sounds at all justifiable? Maybe Wild Bunch as well?

chap, Saturday, 10 September 2016 18:51 (seven years ago) link

i agree, i was just joking. An Elvis poll would be good so I could learn about all the early elvis on Sun Records. I only really know the big hits

This is the reason an Elvis poll should be of the whole catalogue not just "the hits". Lots of gems tucked away.

For bodies we are ready to build pyramids (wtev), Wednesday, 14 September 2016 05:55 (seven years ago) link

I dunno, if I were to do it I might keep it simple and limited to Portishead, Massive Attack and Tricky if that sounds at all justifiable? Maybe Wild Bunch as well?

3 P albums, 3 MA albums, 2-3 Tricky (counting Nearly God), over which there are about 100 songs? Sounds doable.

write sed fread (Leee), Thursday, 15 September 2016 17:47 (seven years ago) link

There are 5 MA albums!

chap, Thursday, 15 September 2016 18:33 (seven years ago) link

far more than 2-3 tricky albums, too

a simba man (Will M.), Thursday, 15 September 2016 19:02 (seven years ago) link

Yeah I mean ones that would realistically get a significant number of votes!

write sed fread (Leee), Thursday, 15 September 2016 21:43 (seven years ago) link

I think a few songs off Heligoland could do alright.

chap, Thursday, 15 September 2016 21:52 (seven years ago) link

Hey, I like the Hope Sandoval song! I was taking a very conservatively estimating the minimum of songs we'd have in the pool.

write sed fread (Leee), Thursday, 15 September 2016 21:59 (seven years ago) link

Which one? I could conceivably vote for both Paradise Circus and The Spoils (even though the latter is only a few weeks old).

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 15 September 2016 22:02 (seven years ago) link

Oh is there a new one?? "Paradise Circus" obviously is the one I like.

write sed fread (Leee), Thursday, 15 September 2016 22:15 (seven years ago) link

You're missing out, I think the EP and couple of songs from the upcoming album that they've released so far are my favorite ones since Mezzanine.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 16 September 2016 14:30 (seven years ago) link

I think they're also a proper band again and Daddy G and Mushroom are back, don't quote me on that.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 16 September 2016 14:33 (seven years ago) link

Daddy G has been back since Heligoland hasn't he?

I just looked at credits for this year's releases and it turns out Ritual Spirit is only 3D and The Spoils is only Daddy G, i hadn't realised.

a bit of a tangent though

ufo, Friday, 16 September 2016 15:03 (seven years ago) link

Yeah just checked that's dissapointing. But well at least Tricky's back as a collaborator in two songs?

Herbie Hancock also credited? Is it a sample?

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 16 September 2016 18:32 (seven years ago) link

Anyhoo back to this thread; I agree a Bristol trip hop poll would be great but only including Tricky, Portishead and MA. A full genre poll would take too much time to listen. Tricky's catalogue alone is actually extensive and you have to do digging to find the actual gems, there's many crap, but there's at least an interesting track per album.

I like Nearly God better than Maxinquaye... maybe I overplayed it too much so I prefer the former when I'm in Tricky mood.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 16 September 2016 18:37 (seven years ago) link

Looking at his albums and my my, Tricky has some terrible album covers. I think only MA are interesting media-wise, cool videos, cool artwork. Portishead are also very dull in their imagery but Tricky just has bad taste.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 16 September 2016 18:47 (seven years ago) link

I uh like PMT's artwork.

write sed fread (Leee), Friday, 16 September 2016 21:35 (seven years ago) link

I'm down for running a NIN poll soon, but at this point I'd be much more excited to run a Bristol trip-hop one as described. Would it be incredibly poor form to switch subjects?

chap, Saturday, 17 September 2016 14:16 (seven years ago) link

NB: Tomorrow is the deadline for Dedication to Polls and Voters: Notated Music Since 1890 - Voting and Discussion Thread

Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Saturday, 17 September 2016 16:43 (seven years ago) link

I'd vastly prefer a trip-hop to a NIN poll. Go for it, chap!

it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Saturday, 17 September 2016 17:55 (seven years ago) link

Ditto!

rm -rf / (Leee), Saturday, 17 September 2016 18:26 (seven years ago) link

Meantime, feel free to check out

LET'S GET IT ON! It's the ~~~ 1970s SOUL ALBUMS POLL ~~~ NOMINATIONS AND CAMPAIGNING THREAD

ArchCarrier, Saturday, 17 September 2016 19:55 (seven years ago) link

I'd really, really like to do a jungle/drum 'n bass poll. Any interest in that?

Le Bateau Ivre, Saturday, 17 September 2016 20:16 (seven years ago) link

I'd really, really like to do a jungle/drum 'n bass poll. Any interest in that?

― Le Bateau Ivre,

YES. Especially if some hardcore was allowed as well.

chap, Sunday, 18 September 2016 02:15 (seven years ago) link

I'd totally vote in that! And yeah hardcore/jungle/drum'n'bass (but not later variations like dubstep) would be a proper way to poll it.

Tuomas, Monday, 19 September 2016 06:49 (seven years ago) link

I agree. There's no denying things were crossing over like that. Dubstep though, nah.

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 19 September 2016 10:11 (seven years ago) link

A dubstep and emergent genres could be cool too, maybe a bit tricky to define though.

chap, Monday, 19 September 2016 11:47 (seven years ago) link

*dubstep and emergent genres poll

chap, Monday, 19 September 2016 11:47 (seven years ago) link

Voting deadline extended until Friday: Dedication to Polls and Voters: Notated Music Since 1890 - Voting and Discussion Thread

Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Tuesday, 20 September 2016 19:00 (seven years ago) link

So are we just ignoring the list now? Is that how it's going to be? You people are iconoclasts! Mockers of institutions. It's not right goddamnit. I've been waiting for years...YEARS to run my covers poll.

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 02:50 (seven years ago) link

no and no. you will have your day...

Bee OK, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 03:53 (seven years ago) link

I have tried to update as best that I could:

A. Pavement - Johnny Fever (finished)
B. Manic Street Preachers - Jamie_ATP (finished)
C. Blur - Nasty, Brutish & Short (finished)
1. Pet Shop Boys - Billy Dods (finished)
2. Beatles - Mark G (finished)
3. Prince - Jamie_ATP (finished)
4. U2 - Ismael Klata (finished)
5. Beach Boys - iatee (finished)
6. Led Zeppelin - WmC (finished)
7. Timbaland - some dude (finished)
8. Guided By Voices - Johnny Fever (finished)
9. Stevie Wonder - Eric H. (finished)
10. “Producers” - Shakey Mo Collier (finished)
11. Pulp - Finefinemusic (finished)
12. James Brown - strongo/Shakey Mo Collier (finished)
13. Jacksons - Jamie_ATP (finished)
14. David Bowie - WmC (finished)
15. Paul Simon - Lamp (finished)
16. Rolling Stones - rogermexico (finished)
17. The Kinks - C. Grisso/McCain (finished)
18. Depeche Mode - crüt (finished)
19. Beastie Boys - Johnny Fever (finished)
20. ABBA - donna rouge (finished)
20B. Bee Gees - Shakey Mo Collier (finished)
21. Neil Young - clemenza (finished)
22. Fleetwood Mac - Clarke B. (finished)
23. The Cure - nate woolls (finished)
24. Kate Bush - Ismael Klata (finished)
25. The Who - Tarfumes the Escape Goat (finished)
26. Joni Mitchell - Mordy (finished)
27. The Neptunes - V79/some dude (finished)
28. Saint Etienne - Billy Dods (finished)
29. Hüsker Dü - Pleasant Plains (finished)
30. Bruce Springsteen - Jamie_ATP (finished)
31. Madonna - Johnny Fever (finished)
32. Miles Davis - WmC (finished)
33. The Fall - Mark G (finished)
34. PJ Harvey - Nasty, Brutish & Short (finished)
35. Cocteau Twins - Le Bateau Ivre/LeRooLeRoo (finished)
36. Sonic Youth - ArchCarrier (finished)
37. New Order - Bee OK (finished)
37B. The Doors - Ismael Klata (finished)
38. The Clash - Gukbe (finished)
39. Motown Singles - a hoy hoy (finished)
40. Jay-Z - some dude (finished)
41. Elton John - Johnny Fever (finished)
42. Stax - seandalai (finished)
43. Disco - Tuomas (finished)
44. R. Kelly - Spottie_Ottie_Dope (finished)
45. Tom Waits - chap (finished)
45B. Velvet Underground and Solo Careers - Shakey Mo Collier (finished)
46. The “Classic Rock” Canon - some dude (finished)
47. Elvis Costello - kornrulez (finished)
48. Roxy Music/Bryan Ferry - charlie h (finished)
49. Pink Floyd - Elvis Telecom (finished)
50. Steely Dan - Bee OK (finished)
51. Bob Dylan - tipsy mothra (finished)
52. Sleater-Kinney + offshoots - C.Grisso/McCain (finished)
53. Outkast - Spottie (finished)
54. Autechre - Leee (finished)
55. Brian Eno - WmC (finished)
56. Radiohead - nate woolls (finished)
57. Spaceman 3 (& descendants) - Elvis Telecom (finished)
58. "Epics" - Leee (finished)
59. XTC - Οὖτις (finished)
60. The Boo Radleys - Bee OK (finished)
61. Yo La Tengo - Van Horn Street/clemenza (finished)
62. Creedence Clearwater Revival - crüt (finished)
63. Ramones - tipsy mothra (finished)
64. Italo - daavid (finished)
65. P-Funk - Οὖτις (finished)
66. Metallica - pplains (finished)
67. Spoon - Bee OK (finished)
68. Queen - charlie h (finished)
69B. Pixies - Johnny Fever (finished)
69. Nirvana - Gavin, Leeds (finished)
70. Extreme Metal - Viceroy (finished)
71. Tom Petty - rogermexico. (finished)
72. The Smiths - nate woolls (finished0
73. Bauhaus/Tones on Tail-Love and Rockets/Peter Murphy - Bee OK (finished)
74. Stereolab - Moka (finished)
75. Van Halen - Johnny Fever (finished)
76. Devo - soref (finished)
77. Can - Z S Moka (finished)
78. Oasis - pollrunner needed for this one Bee OK (finished)
79. George Michael - Ismael Klata

The Stooges/Iggy Pop - pollrunner needed for this one Moka
Hard Rock/Hair Metal - gr8080
Stephin Merritt - Gukbe
Fairport Convention et al (R Thompson, S Denny) - Billy Dods
Jimi Hendrix - some dude
Genesis + solo - NickB
The Burt Bacharach songbook - C. Grisso/McCain
Dead C - Raymond Cummings
Royal Trux + side projects - sleeve
John Fahey - Naive Teen Idol?
Rush - Matt #2
Talking Heads - Bee OK
Gamble & Huff/Philly International Records - jetfan
Billy Joel - Doctor Casino
Low - aldo
Nine Inch Nails - chap
REM - rogermexico.
Bjork - Eric H.
Wu-Tang Clan - Spottie
Shoegaze/Dream Pop/Post-rock (Albums and EPs) - Bee OK
Covers - kornrulez6969
New Pornographers/AC Newman - staggerlee
They Might Be Giants - Johnny Fever
No Wave - sarahell
DFA - Van Horn Street
Misfits/Samhain/Danzig - gr8080
Beatles solo careers - Οὖτις
Erykah Badu - Eric H.
Nick Cave/Bad Seeds/Birthday Party/et al - charlie h
Herbie Hancock - crüt
Aphex Twin - Stevie D
**The Jesus and Mary Chain - Bee OK (instead of Blondie)
Blondie - Bee OK pollrunner needed for this one
Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis - Spottie
Siouxsie & the Banshees/The Creatures - LeRooLeRoo
AM Radio Gold - Jeff W
Eurovision - nxd
Steve Albini - nate woolls
Yellow Magic Orchestra - frogbs
Elvis Presley - Euler
Byrds + offshoots - kornrulez6969
Cardiacs + affiliated - imago
Tropicalia/MPB - Frederik B
Chic Organization - pollrunner needed for this one
French/Francophone - Van Horn Street
Smashing Pumpkins - Bee OK

*Added:

The Cars/Ric Ocasek - crüt
Tim Buckley - Naive Teen Idol
Van Morrison - kornrulez6969
Animal Collective - flappy bird
The Cramps - Moka
Bristol trip-hop - chap
Wire - kornrulez6969
jungle/drum 'n bass - Le Bateau Ivre
Suede - Bee OK

Bee OK, Thursday, 22 September 2016 01:15 (seven years ago) link

yes, i added The Jesus and Mary Chain and Suede to my name but dropped Blondie.

Bee OK, Thursday, 22 September 2016 01:44 (seven years ago) link

Run your covers poll, man!

rm -rf / (Leee), Thursday, 22 September 2016 17:07 (seven years ago) link

yes!

simmel, Thursday, 22 September 2016 18:02 (seven years ago) link

Bravo to Bee OK for reconsolidating the list - things were getting a little floppy and confusing there.

So, first-ish call for the following folks: Moka, gr8080, Gukbe, Billy Dods, some dude, NickB, C. Grisso/McCain, Raymond Cummings and sleeve - think you'll be in a good spot to tackle your upcoming polls? Any of you in a good spot in the next few weeks, in case the first couple people can't do theirs just yet?

Silence, followed by unintelligible stammering. (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 22 September 2016 18:22 (seven years ago) link

I can do it. when do you need me?

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 22 September 2016 18:28 (seven years ago) link

Looks like Ismael Klata just wrapped George Michael results yesterday, so the pitcher's mound is open if you're ready to play ball...!

Silence, followed by unintelligible stammering. (Doctor Casino), Friday, 23 September 2016 23:42 (seven years ago) link

Considering the spirit of ilm is less participatory now than a few years ago, and TMBG was always going to be a niche poll anyway, you may as well drop me off the list for that one next time you revise it.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 24 September 2016 00:23 (seven years ago) link

it didn't link right for me: http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=41&threadid=104615#unread

Bee OK, Saturday, 24 September 2016 01:17 (seven years ago) link

i will do it this way, so it's here: ILM Artist Poll No. 80 · Iggy & The Stooges · Voting Thread-End 11/01/16

Bee OK, Saturday, 24 September 2016 01:19 (seven years ago) link

i would not say things are slowing down, the Smiths tied for the most ballots ever and that was this year. i just think it depends on the poll or artist so i hope you end up not bailing on They Might Be Giants. i'm pretty sure my Talking Heads poll will be really, really popular.

xpost to Johnny Fever

Bee OK, Saturday, 24 September 2016 01:21 (seven years ago) link

could I request Robyn Hitchcock?

campreverb, Saturday, 24 September 2016 15:27 (seven years ago) link

JF, sorry to hear you feel that way! I don't think of ILM as less participatory, though maybe a little less...frantic? Idk. I was looking forward to your TMBG poll, so naturally I hope you reconsider.

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 24 September 2016 15:56 (seven years ago) link

Requesting a voting extension for the Stooges poll so it's two weeks instead of one. Yay or nay?

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 24 September 2016 17:59 (seven years ago) link


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