ILM Artist Poll No. 80 · Iggy & The Stooges · Voting Thread [Ends 10/01/16]

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Songs: Top 20. Ranked. Solo and collaborations allowed. Non-optional.
Normal Scoring: 1:40, 2:36, 3:33, 4:30, 5:28, 6:26, 7:25, 8:24, 9:23, 10:22, 11:21, 12:20, 13:19, 14:18, 15:17, 16:16, 17:15, 18:14, 19:13, 20:12
Albums: Top 5. Ranked. Solo albums and Collabs allowed. Optional.
Ballots: ilmstoogespoll (at) gmail dot com
Ends: 1st of August of the year 2016

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 24 September 2016 00:28 (seven months ago) Permalink

It should say 1st of November of the year 2016 haha

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 24 September 2016 00:29 (seven months ago) Permalink

I'm voting exclusively for material from Préliminaires and Après.

j/k

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 24 September 2016 00:34 (seven months ago) Permalink

yeah, i have recently bought all the Stooges albums but still don't know them. time to rectify that.

Bee OK, Saturday, 24 September 2016 01:15 (seven months ago) Permalink

I wrote this back in March. So my albums ballot, at any rate, is already in place.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Saturday, 24 September 2016 01:21 (seven months ago) Permalink

ends 1 october or 1 november?

mookieproof, Saturday, 24 September 2016 01:29 (seven months ago) Permalink

Just to clarify: this is voting on both Stooges and Iggy Pop records, right?

new noise, Saturday, 24 September 2016 01:32 (seven months ago) Permalink

ends 1 october or 1 november?

― mookieproof,

shit october not november, sorry my mind is playin tricks on me

Just to clarify: this is voting on both Stooges and Iggy Pop records, right?

― new noise

yes

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 24 September 2016 01:42 (seven months ago) Permalink

Oh dear. Really wish there were separate ballots for Stooges & solo... I love a lot of the Iggy & Bowie albums and New Values, but not more than most of the Stooges output.

lingereffect (Kent Burt), Saturday, 24 September 2016 01:51 (seven months ago) Permalink

we have just over a week, i really wouldn't mind an extension. i know what i'm exclusively playing next week.

Bee OK, Saturday, 24 September 2016 02:10 (seven months ago) Permalink

Iggy/etc is a semi-regular part of my musical diet, so I should be able to put a ballot together in short order.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 24 September 2016 02:12 (seven months ago) Permalink

New Values and BBB will feature heavily in my ballot.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 24 September 2016 02:18 (seven months ago) Permalink

Yeah, I'll be voting for some Blah-Blah-Blah tracks too.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Saturday, 24 September 2016 02:30 (seven months ago) Permalink

"Shades" is my favorite Bowie-composed song during those dark years.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 24 September 2016 02:32 (seven months ago) Permalink

^precisely otm.

Superb poll, very short timeframe!

the european nikon is here (grauschleier), Saturday, 24 September 2016 07:38 (seven months ago) Permalink

Fun House seems to have overtaken it in coolness in the past couple decades but Raw Power will always be THE rock n roll album to me

punksishippies, Saturday, 24 September 2016 08:50 (seven months ago) Permalink

Oh I was just following the timeframe of previous polls, let me ask for an extension on the poll thread.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 24 September 2016 17:58 (seven months ago) Permalink

here's my ballot:

songs:


1969
I Wanna Be Your Dog
We Will Fall
No Fun
Real Cool Time
Ann
Not Right
Little Doll
Down On The Street
Loose
T.V. Eye
Dirt
1970
Fun House
L.A. Blues
Search And Destroy
Gimme Danger
Your Pretty Face Is Going To Hell
Penetration
Raw Power
I Need Somebody
Shake Appeal
Death Trip

albums:

the stooges
fun house
raw power

scott seward, Saturday, 24 September 2016 18:10 (seven months ago) Permalink

NEW DEADLINE (until further notice): 08 oct 16

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 24 September 2016 18:45 (seven months ago) Permalink

Listening to Iggy Pop and James Williamson 'Kill City'. I don't know how Stooges fans fell about it but I love that album, Kill City, Sell Your Love, I Got Nothing.... I think it might be my favorite of his post-stooges work, hell I think this might even be my favorite Rolling Stones album that isn't actually by the Rolling Stones.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 24 September 2016 18:50 (seven months ago) Permalink

Shit listening to New Values now and I take that back... Iggy's solo work is amazing. AMAZING! Johnny Fever jokes but I actually even like a couple of tracks from Preliminares and Apres, but yeah those are not good.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 24 September 2016 19:25 (seven months ago) Permalink

Kill City benefited more from remastering than any other album I can think of. Maybe the 1990s Virgin Records reissue of Exile on Main St. And yeah, you're right, it sounds like a Stones album.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Saturday, 24 September 2016 20:24 (seven months ago) Permalink

kill city yea some days i think this is my favourite thing of his at least after gorging on the stooges first three for so long it has got more play than them in last few years

peanutbuttereverysingleday, Saturday, 24 September 2016 22:58 (seven months ago) Permalink

i guess also there have also been a few scattered singles which are not on iggy albums which i suppose are eligible

peanutbuttereverysingleday, Saturday, 24 September 2016 22:59 (seven months ago) Permalink

I've been promoting the Kill City tracks for a bazillion years, and yes it is one of the best Stones Albums ever. Lucky Monkeys also worthy of mention. The official Kill City version goes a little longer than an earlier bootleg version, and this is being ultra picky, but the older version that fades during the outro is better. Trying to find a version on youtube...

dlp9001, Saturday, 24 September 2016 23:13 (seven months ago) Permalink

Ok, yeah: this is the one I'd call the definitive version. My favorite Iggy related album period. Sequencing is amazing, and a bunch of the versions are better than any others that I've heard.

https://www.discogs.com/Iggy-Pop-I-Got-A-Right/master/50902

dlp9001, Saturday, 24 September 2016 23:16 (seven months ago) Permalink

I guess the version of Kill City in spotify is the remasterized one? I'm digging back the iggy pop albums due to this poll but I can't get past this album, I''m floored at how good it is, I don't understand the naysayers. I know I'm wrong but right now it sounds even better than fun house or raw power. There's a certain charm to it, the lyrics are some of Iggy's best nut the whole thing has a very effortless and cynical 'fuck you' vibe. It's really addictive.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 25 September 2016 06:06 (seven months ago) Permalink

But not nut ha

✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 25 September 2016 06:06 (seven months ago) Permalink

I like basically everything from the original Stooges record up through Blah Blah Blah, then I get more discerning.

Always thought it was funny how the guitars on "Wild America" from American Caesar sound like Thurston & Lee, but neither of them are involved in any way.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 25 September 2016 06:32 (seven months ago) Permalink

Ok, of the two versions on Spotify, the OOP version is better. I usually hate hair-splitting about releases, but the I Got A Right/Kill City tracks are some of the best songs by one of the best rock artists in the history of the medium, so it's worth making the effort. The Kill City remaster cleans things up too much, has a worse ending (the fade out for Lucky Monkeys on I Got A Right is still the best), etc. One of the really rare cases where seeking out a particular version of the album is worth the trouble. I'm still going with the Invasion/Revenge version, which isn't on youtube as best I can tell. Unfortunately that means spending $20+ on a used vinyl copy. It's worth it.

dlp9001, Monday, 26 September 2016 02:07 (seven months ago) Permalink

Only two ballots so far but they're wildly different. 30 different tracks have votes, which means they only agreed on 10 out of 40. I like how this is shaping up.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 27 September 2016 06:33 (seven months ago) Permalink

The Kill City remaster cleans things up too much, has a worse ending (the fade out for Lucky Monkeys on I Got A Right is still the best), etc. One of the really rare cases where seeking out a particular version of the album is worth the trouble.

I agree with that. Obviously nothing wrong in providing an alternative version as long as you can choose, but "Now you can finally listen to how it was intended to sound all the time" is a wonky approach in general, especially when it's not just cleaning up but adding several gimmicks and restructuring like here.
The dude was basically in closed rehab and generally the worst period of his life at the time, if it shows in the raggedness (I'd say fierceness) of the album, then let it be.

the european nikon is here (grauschleier), Tuesday, 27 September 2016 09:06 (seven months ago) Permalink

embarrassingly i only know two Iggy Pop solo songs, "Lust for Life" and Nightclubbing any other songs i should check out for this poll?

Bee OK, Thursday, 29 September 2016 00:56 (seven months ago) Permalink

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 September 2016 01:16 (seven months ago) Permalink

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 September 2016 01:19 (seven months ago) Permalink

"New Values" is awesome.

Bee OK, Thursday, 29 September 2016 01:21 (seven months ago) Permalink

i also know "The Passenger"

Bee OK, Thursday, 29 September 2016 01:22 (seven months ago) Permalink

not so impressed with "Subtitulada."

Bee OK, Thursday, 29 September 2016 01:25 (seven months ago) Permalink

good stuff like always Alfred.

Bee OK, Thursday, 29 September 2016 01:25 (seven months ago) Permalink

you should hear dum dum gurls at least

dynamicinterface, Thursday, 29 September 2016 01:31 (seven months ago) Permalink

also kill city

dynamicinterface, Thursday, 29 September 2016 01:32 (seven months ago) Permalink

good stuff like always Alfred.

― Bee OK,

the message that I got is Bee a wild one!

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 September 2016 01:41 (seven months ago) Permalink

:-)

Bee OK, Thursday, 29 September 2016 01:54 (seven months ago) Permalink

There's a great live clip of "Five Foot One" (off the horribly produced but still fuckin awesome New Values) where Iggy clocks himself in the mouth with his mic and then does the interview afterwards smiling and bleeding. My #1 Iggy moment.

hardcore dilettante, Thursday, 29 September 2016 02:26 (seven months ago) Permalink

embarrassingly i only know two Iggy Pop solo songs, "Lust for Life" and Nightclubbing any other songs i should check out for this poll?

― Bee OK, Thursday, September 29, 2016 12:56 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The Idiot and Lust For Life are essential albums and I recommend you listen to both in full. New Values has its moments - 'I'm Bored' in particular is a classic.

I won't be voting for anything beyond 1979.

pen pineapple apple pen (Turrican), Thursday, 29 September 2016 02:31 (seven months ago) Permalink

and 'L.A. Blues' for the win.

pen pineapple apple pen (Turrican), Thursday, 29 September 2016 02:32 (seven months ago) Permalink

Spinning New Values for the first time in memory. Still mostly fuckin awesome, but ... I wonder if Iggy, when the subject of "African Man" comes up, just grins sheepishly & says "cocaine's a hell of a drug."

hardcore dilettante, Thursday, 29 September 2016 02:54 (seven months ago) Permalink

Oha, just discovered, wasn't aware of this at all.

the european nikon is here (grauschleier), Friday, 30 September 2016 09:54 (six months ago) Permalink

Lobbying for this:

a full playlist of presidential sex jams (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 30 September 2016 17:43 (six months ago) Permalink

Hey, I'll be away for most of the next week but keep the ballots coming in. We're only at 7 ballots so far, keep them coming!

✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 2 October 2016 21:30 (six months ago) Permalink

Repo Man is so good. Also very fond of "Dog Food" and "Endless Sea" (both on regular albums) for their use on the soundtrack of Dogs In Space.

I'd forgotten that I had a very, very brief fling with the actress in this video (I didn't forget the fling, I forgot the video). I won't be voting for the song. I hope she got to actually meet Iggy, as it's hard to tell from the video.

dlp9001, Monday, 3 October 2016 01:13 (six months ago) Permalink

Voted!

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Monday, 3 October 2016 01:46 (six months ago) Permalink

that vid reminds me of seeing a song Iggy was working on when we were hanging out with him (ca. ~ 1984, when Bowie's "china girl" was in the charts). he was working on a tune that had working title "stars and stripes". i've always wondered if that ever turned into anything concrete.

Bandol soleil for the St. Tropez tan (outdoor_miner), Monday, 3 October 2016 03:21 (six months ago) Permalink

Voted!

earlnash, Monday, 3 October 2016 03:44 (six months ago) Permalink

Xpost: Endless Sea is in my ballot, thought I'd be the lone vote.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 3 October 2016 06:01 (six months ago) Permalink

Endless Sea is in my ballot, thought I'd be the lone vote.

Hell no. One of the best songs on New Values. I voted for it.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Monday, 3 October 2016 12:16 (six months ago) Permalink

Very slightly OT, but I've always been impressed by the way Momus stole the idea of the ending of "Here Comes Success" for this song. Good example of productive stealing.

dlp9001, Monday, 3 October 2016 13:46 (six months ago) Permalink

Last week to vote! 11 ballots in.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 5 October 2016 20:41 (six months ago) Permalink

I'll definitely be getting a ballot in, don't worry!

pen pineapple apple pen (Turrican), Wednesday, 5 October 2016 21:18 (six months ago) Permalink

Last weekend to vote!

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 7 October 2016 23:10 (six months ago) Permalink

Just voted

kornrulez6969, Saturday, 8 October 2016 01:10 (six months ago) Permalink

went to a pub yesterday and there is was: "blah blah blah" on tap. true story, but trying to sow seeds

Bandol soleil for the St. Tropez tan (outdoor_miner), Saturday, 8 October 2016 02:59 (six months ago) Permalink

got my shortlist down to 29 loco mosquito is a weird one

peanutbuttereverysingleday, Saturday, 8 October 2016 04:22 (six months ago) Permalink

got kill city at number 3 albums

peanutbuttereverysingleday, Saturday, 8 October 2016 04:23 (six months ago) Permalink

the song ambition is very bowiiie i guess soldier is one i hadnt listened to much

peanutbuttereverysingleday, Saturday, 8 October 2016 04:24 (six months ago) Permalink

Only 14 ballots so far.

Of the previous polls I've run Stereolab got 40 ballots and Can 36. What is happening ILM? do not let Iggy down.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 8 October 2016 18:56 (six months ago) Permalink

voted.

got kill city at number 3 albums

my go-to iggy album these days.

new noise, Sunday, 9 October 2016 00:29 (six months ago) Permalink

voted

sleeve, Sunday, 9 October 2016 01:54 (six months ago) Permalink

Downloaded the non-remastered version of Kill City and now I understand why it got such bad reviews back then, Iggy's voice is buried and the whole thing sounds like crap.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 9 October 2016 02:03 (six months ago) Permalink

I've never listened to it cuz thats what i always heard about it. Praise here is befuddling.

Οὖτις, Sunday, 9 October 2016 02:04 (six months ago) Permalink

it's a good album!

new noise, Sunday, 9 October 2016 02:44 (six months ago) Permalink

the remaster is a top 3 iggy album, the original is a bottom 3.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 9 October 2016 04:01 (six months ago) Permalink

Respectfully disagree. Original is a sludgy lo fi Stones Album (I think the sludgy lo-fi Stones Album "Exile" is considered one of their best). The remaster just sounds fake, vocals too forward, some bad edits, etc. I suppose it probably comes down to taste and what you heard first.

dlp9001, Sunday, 9 October 2016 17:14 (six months ago) Permalink

Also, looking at songs left off of the "official" version, Gimme Some Skin, Tight Pants, Sick of You all add a lot to the sequence, and the replacements don't really thrill me.

dlp9001, Sunday, 9 October 2016 17:21 (six months ago) Permalink

Last day to vote!

✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 9 October 2016 22:07 (six months ago) Permalink

Only 17 ballots it seems... hope we get interesting results. I'll start counting them tomorrow so if any of you still want to send a ballot you can do it until I post in here that voting is closed.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 10 October 2016 04:35 (six months ago) Permalink

kinda amazed not more interest or ballots in this - compared to other polls woulda thought this would be more popular - maybe too many people are sucked into trumpland to care

peanutbuttereverysingleday, Monday, 10 October 2016 06:19 (six months ago) Permalink

will probably be able to put together a ballot by this evening

willem, Monday, 10 October 2016 07:07 (six months ago) Permalink

Ballot sent!

lingereffect (Kent Burt), Monday, 10 October 2016 10:02 (six months ago) Permalink

19 ballots now! Can we get a 20 before I close it?

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 10 October 2016 16:30 (six months ago) Permalink

SENT!

a full playlist of presidential sex jams (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 10 October 2016 18:47 (six months ago) Permalink

& sent

willem, Monday, 10 October 2016 20:35 (six months ago) Permalink

SCENT

Sushi and the Banchan (Spectrist), Monday, 10 October 2016 21:50 (six months ago) Permalink

We're at 22 ballots! I'm almost done counting if you want to send a ballot now's the time!

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 11 October 2016 00:41 (six months ago) Permalink

Ok voting is over! Very happy to say there's no ties in the top 50 songs.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 11 October 2016 01:17 (six months ago) Permalink

aw man... i've been very inactive lately due to work and life and stuff and completely missed the voting. looking forward to results and playlist!

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 12 October 2016 00:02 (six months ago) Permalink

five months pass...

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