𝓈 𝒽 𝒾 𝓉
― am0n, Monday, 21 March 2016 20:39 (eight years ago) link
𝔽𝕌𝔾
― am0n, Monday, 21 March 2016 20:40 (eight years ago) link
The Simon Shaheen interview from 2003 is still available (on Web Archive) and still a fascinating read - http://web.archive.org/web/20030818015403/http://www.afropop.org/multi/interview/ID/39/Simon%20Shaheen%20on%20the%20oud
My first oudist was Waed Bouhassoun from Syria, and her live concert for Radio France Musique from September 2015 - http://www.francemusique.fr/player/resource/106453-118451 - concert starts at 3:00 mins and is available online until Jun 2018
Not sure how Bouhassoun compares to anyone else, but it's a really hypnotic sound, just oud and voice. (More info on the program page.)
― sbahnhof, Thursday, 24 March 2016 09:56 (eight years ago) link
http://web.archive.org/web/20101228042512/http://www.afropop.org/multi/interview/ID/39/Simon+Shaheen+on+t
― sbahnhof, Thursday, 24 March 2016 10:04 (eight years ago) link
*Shaheen
UK number 1, U.S. #3
Say Anything
the Funny Girls comedy rapping "Work from Home" their previous album?
― sbahnhof, Saturday, 26 March 2016 21:02 (eight years ago) link
"Soft Offering (For the Oft Suffering)"
The parentheses of embarrassment. That's the opposite of the ellipsis of anticipation. It just depends how proud you are of the pun.
Less punny threads include.Funniest song titlesWhat makes a "good" song title?Songtitles referring to major news eventsWhat is the greatest song with a comma in it's title?The Megadeth one
― sbahnhof, Friday, 1 April 2016 23:01 (eight years ago) link
^ Track possibly a joke about what Drake sounds like in ILMers' heads. Okay I'll do it, "in ILMers' heads"
― sbahnhof, Saturday, 2 April 2016 07:47 (eight years ago) link
QUOTH THE GATE-VEN
Since all of Hensel’s works were created for presentation at her Sunday musicales, it is important to remember that her choice of genres was largely dictated by the performing forces at her disposal. It was also probably determined to some extent by the fact that her brother discouraged her from writing large-scale works. However, on the evidence of such beautifully crafted, extended compositions as the Op. 11 Piano Trio, the E flat major String Quartet, and the G minor Piano Sonata, one is led to speculate that, given the same encouragement and professional opportunities as her brother, she might well have become his rival as a symphonist.
Fanny Mendelssohn Hensel was both a victim and a survivor. In light of her upbringing, it must have taken enormous courage for her to defy convention by making the leap from the private sphere of the salon – her allotted place as a female creator – to the public sphere of the published composer. To borrow the words of a recent critic, "Although no one may have danced to her 'piping' during her lifetime, to ignore her now would be a very large loss indeed." (James Parsons, 1986)
Since all of Hensel’s works were created for presentation at her Sunday musicales, it is important to remember that her choice of genres was largely dictated by the performing forces at her disposal. It was also probably determined to some extent by the fact that her brother discouraged her from writing large-scale works. However, on the evidence of such beautifully crafted, extended compositions as the Op. 11 Piano Trio, the E flat major String Quartet, and the G minor Piano Sonata, one is led to speculate that, given the same encouragement and professional opportunities as her brother, she might well have become his rival as a symphonist.Fanny Mendelssohn Hensel was both a victim and a survivor. In light of her upbringing, it must have taken enormous courage for her to defy convention by making the leap from the private sphere of the salon – her allotted place as a female creator – to the public sphere of the published composer. To borrow the words of a recent critic, "Although no one may have danced to her 'piping' during her lifetime, to ignore her now would be a very large loss indeed." (James Parsons, 1986)
― sbahnhof, Sunday, 10 April 2016 01:31 (eight years ago) link
A couple of pieces by Mendelssohn-Hensel to start with:
One of her largest-scale ones, "Oratorio on Scenes from the Bible" No it's not "Bachian", f*** you <- Note to self
And the Four Songs for Piano, op 8, from 1850 (her third collection with that title). Sounds like a vinyl rip, tho I dunno if it can be
Obscurity and reputation
Yes, I am being obscurist. I'm not sorry, U can all eat it ;)
Got to be done... With regard to female composers, it's surely inevitable that there'll be more historical revisionism in future, just like in any field that was so male-dominated for so long. From Fanny's story, it's shocking how this state of affairs was maintained through 'politeness' and presumptions, rather than outright threat. It was Berlin high society, with its ingrained idea that a woman couldn't and wouldn't become a composer, and certainly not one of any merit. Even Fanny herself is quoted doing down the 'femininity' and inferiority of her works. Some news reports on her piano recitals didn't name her, to protect her modesty. She still won many supporters, and she was having her work published for a short time before she passed away.
On a related topic, thinking about shifts in reputation over time: have many obscure older composers gained traction in the past 30-50 years? Which ones do you think? (Obv inspired by that thread, "Vanilla Ice went from hero to zero".)
Fanny's music was performed in a 2010 Juilliard concert series in New York City:http://www.juilliard.edu/journal/out-shadows-showcase-works-fanny-mendelssohn-hensel
At the moment it looks like she gets played a lot in Germany, Switzerland and Austria, and not so much elsewhere:http://www.fannyhensel.de/hensel_eng/konzf_frame.htm
― sbahnhof, Sunday, 10 April 2016 03:02 (eight years ago) link
Spring and All 2k16 / what are you reading now?
(strip the hostname from the url and it'll work for both www.ilxor.com and ilxor.com)
(in theory...)
― koogs, Tuesday, 19 April 2016 12:37 (eight years ago) link
Putney Swope (1969)
― los blue jeans, Wednesday, 20 April 2016 03:20 (eight years ago) link
Cheers Jon. With the Fanny Hensel book, I was lucky to stumble across it in the city library among the rock biogs. Which just proves she 'rocks', or "she's the dope", or however the young people are expressing admiration nowadays.
Leafing through to try and find the bit where Todd writes the academic equivalent of "Fanny > Felix lol"... uh, I couldn't find it. Instead here's some sibling squabbling, which is also quite enlightening:
"Writing to Felix, Fanny observed that her brother had successfully worked his way through Beethoven's late style and 'progressed beyond it [...] my lengthy things die in their youth of decrepitude; I lack the ability to sustain ideas properly and give them the needed consistency.'
[...] Matters indeed came to a head in the fall of 1834 when she completed between August 23 and October 23 one of her most ambitious works, the String Quartet in E-Flat Major (H-U 277). This was the composition, as we shall see, that prompted Felix to write a critique in January 1835, to which Fanny replied with the self-deprecating comments cited above.
[...] [The first three movements] use tonality in an expressive way that further separates her from the eighteenth-century traditions in which [Carl Friedrich] Zelter had trained her and Felix. She deemphasizes the keys of the three movements so that the tonal hierarchy rests more on harmonic associations and implications than on conventional, dominant-to-tonic cadential gestures.
[...] Felix praised the tonal swaying ('Wanken' lol) between E-flat major and C minor at the outset of the quartet as 'schön', but the subsequent persistent appearance of F minor in the first movement and some tonal ambiguities in the second and third convinced him that Fanny had mistakenly embraced a mannerism ('Mannier'). For Felix, tonal clarity was an imperative, and form enhanced that clarity. 'Don't consider me a Philistine,' he insisted; 'I am not, and believe I am right in having more respect than before for form and proper craft, or however one calls the trade terms. Just send me soon something nice, for otherwise I'll think you have struck me dead as a critic.'
What Fanny sent in her next letter was a healthy dose of her own criticism, though not, she assured him, 'a tit-for-tat action'."
(from pp178-186 of Fanny Hensel. Full disclosure, I dunno what all the words mean, but quoted for truthiness)
The quartet, in all its controversy(!), is at https://youtu.be/biWrI7O0s1U
On a related topic, thinking about shifts in reputation over time: have many obscure older composers gained traction in the past 30-50 years? Which ones do you think?
Don't make me challops this thread in order to create a semblance of "debate". Well, you leave me no choice. Here are some Comp-Rep Facts which are literally undebateable:
1. Nobody had heard of Haydn, Telemann, Vivaldi, Scarlatti, Rameau, or Mozart until the 1985 Britannica encyclopedia came out (see table on page 8 of the PDF)2. The Three B's are all no longer alive. Also Beethoven wrote Peanuts3. Elizabeth Lutyens, Arthur Bliss, William Walton and Humphrey Searle have totally sold out4. Nicolai Yakovlevich Myaskovsky and Josquin des Prez used to be bigger than Jesus[/challops]
― sbahnhof, Saturday, 23 April 2016 01:42 (eight years ago) link
Wow, "Lost Boy" is really boring. And it's so long. I guess she was praying we would all get younger while listening to it. Billboard has wrongly called it "The Strangest Hit Song On The Please Click This".
HOWEVER, there are mitigating factors:1. At least there's no ukuleles2. I had just listened to "Fucked Over", which is some true no 1 contender shit
Is it a kind of "Hotline Bling" rip-off, or is there an entire genre that just sounds like "Fucked Over"?
Nice as it is to hear an inferior version of "HighClass Bling" mixed with Baby Dic, but what you get is actually very annoying, sadly. (Oh wait, there may be a bit of Eamon's "Fuck It" in the mix too.)
― sbahnhof, Sunday, 24 April 2016 08:18 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOv_Zf7I2EA
― early rejecter, Thursday, 28 April 2016 13:34 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrPLAH04ILY
― sbahnhof, Saturday, 2 July 2016 05:25 (seven years ago) link
http://imgc.allpostersimages.com/images/P-473-488-90/93/9315/Q697500Z/posters/laurence-cottrell-devo-1981.jpg
― soref, Thursday, 14 July 2016 18:22 (seven years ago) link
http://www.lipsum.com/
― sbahnhof, Sunday, 17 July 2016 07:47 (seven years ago) link
http://a1.files.prettymuchamazing.com/image/upload/c_fit,cs_srgb,dpr_1.0,q_80,w_620/MTQwMTk1NTE5MzE3MTU3MDk3.jpg
― EvR, Wednesday, 20 July 2016 12:11 (seven years ago) link
https://soundcloud.com/thes/007-pleaed-ref-09-21-2015 (video)
― sbahnhof, Friday, 22 July 2016 22:07 (seven years ago) link
https://play.spotify.com/albik5P8OqK
― sbahnhof, Friday, 22 July 2016 22:17 (seven years ago) link
Come Alivehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoLWLsO-ApQ
Pleasure Drive https://soundcloud.com/thejezabels/007-pleasure-drive-revised-ref-09-21-2015 (video)
My Love Is My Disease https://youtu.be/atSmcn0nflo (video)
andSmile https://youtu.be/EuiOg-lr_AI (video)
― sbahnhof, Saturday, 23 July 2016 05:57 (seven years ago) link
https://www.levelostar.fr/fr/stations/liste-des-stations.html
― 0 / 0 (lukas), Monday, 1 August 2016 16:37 (seven years ago) link
http://www.theblackdogma.com/tbd/2016/07/one-hour-with-the-stars-of-the-lid/
― 0 / 0 (lukas), Tuesday, 2 August 2016 13:46 (seven years ago) link
https://www.google.com/search?site=&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1440&bih=812&q=psychedelic+office+supplies&oq=psychedelic+office+supplies&gs_l=img.3...19904.23166.0.23310.27.10.0.17.17.0.291.942.9j0j1.10.0....0...1ac.1.64.img..0.15.950...0j0i8i30j0i24.J9HCGNaViC4
― 0 / 0 (lukas), Tuesday, 2 August 2016 13:49 (seven years ago) link
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e6/Ring17.jpg
― 0 / 0 (lukas), Tuesday, 2 August 2016 13:53 (seven years ago) link
business, numbers, entertainment
http://www.lunaetenendrinken.nl
― 0 / 0 (lukas), Tuesday, 2 August 2016 13:57 (seven years ago) link
circle, square, cross, wave
reckless
― 0 / 0 (lukas), Tuesday, 2 August 2016 13:59 (seven years ago) link
and again
!
― 0 / 0 (lukas), Tuesday, 2 August 2016 14:03 (seven years ago) link
last?
― 0 / 0 (lukas), Tuesday, 2 August 2016 14:08 (seven years ago) link
looks like it
― 0 / 0 (lukas), Tuesday, 2 August 2016 14:09 (seven years ago) link
I Love HTML Tests
― 0 / 0 (lukas), Wednesday, 3 August 2016 16:36 (seven years ago) link
― 0 / 0 (lukas), Wednesday, 3 August 2016 18:29 (seven years ago) link
― 0 / 0 (lukas), Wednesday, 3 August 2016 22:00 (seven years ago) link
http://tawkify.combut noooooo
― 0 / 0 (lukas), Wednesday, 3 August 2016 22:27 (seven years ago) link
https://s0.2mdn.net/1384245/1470077781140/16P00415_CREPossessed_300x250_DCM/index.html
― johnny crunch, Thursday, 4 August 2016 11:40 (seven years ago) link
House
― sbahnhof, Friday, 5 August 2016 22:52 (seven years ago) link
youtube crap :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHh9bPnvm4Y
― mark e, Thursday, 11 August 2016 18:54 (seven years ago) link
Tell me about... The Staple Singers
― sbahnhof, Sunday, 28 August 2016 05:10 (seven years ago) link
Al Green - Al Green Gets Next to You (1971)Al Green - I'm Still in Love With You (1972)Al Green - Let's Stay Together (1972)Al Green - Call Me (1973)Al Green - Livin' for You (1973)Al Green - Al Green Explores Your Mind (1974)Al Green - Al Green Is Love (1975)Al Green - Full of Fire (1976)
― ArchCarrier, Saturday, 17 September 2016 12:15 (seven years ago) link
TEST
test
― ArchCarrier, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 11:56 (seven years ago) link
http://illconradio.info/illconradio-5-9-16-david-icke.mp3
― kurt schwitterz, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 22:58 (seven years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/J8r5coH.jpg
― I look forward to hearing from you shortly, (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 27 September 2016 20:06 (seven years ago) link
You can't otvechai a good Kedr down.
"Livanskiy...described the song to i-D as 'the stupidest one on the album' in terms of lyrics. The video starts out with some synchronised group dancing by the Leningrad Optical Mechanical Association factory in the St Petersburg suburbs and continues to cult rock club Griboedov before moving to a party on a speedboat. Kedrina says that the video was shot on the money that she made while playing a gig at the same club, and that the capitain of the rented boat was most definitely freaked out by her tying up a naked guy and hitting him with roses"(Calvert Journal)
― sbahnhof, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 08:20 (seven years ago) link
https://img.discogs.com/VRuG2B_SMorwjtwesqifV_wA0z8=/fit-in/500x500/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-2046649-1264443779.jpeg.jpgTIE. Ruby Andrews - Black Ruby (1972)28 points • 1 votes
― ArchCarrier, Monday, 17 October 2016 10:39 (seven years ago) link
You mean I've been dancin' on the floor darlin'
― ArchCarrier, Monday, 17 October 2016 11:25 (seven years ago) link