ILM Ballot Polls for 2014 and beyond -- order, timing, "I would have voted if I'd known about it," etc

Side poll for Spoon: "Aw, yeah" vs "c'mon" vs "well alright!"

Ha! I might cast a ballot if this is an actual side poll.

Right now I know no other time, Right now I know no other poll - SPOON (ILM artist poll #67) --- Voting open until Friday July 24, 2015

Poll Poll Poll Poll Poll - SPOON (ILM artist poll #67) --- The results thread

Who's up?

Gukbe w stephen merritt

someone needs to start a new Poll.

looking i see i'm doing Bauhaus/Love and Rockets next before the Big one for me, Talking Heads.

Just curious, is the ILM 2010-2014 Albums thread scheduled to happen this year?

I need to talk to seandalai and gr80 and see what we're gonna do. It's supposed to get underway this month.

Cool. I'm really looking forward to revisiting a lot of old favorites if this happens.

remember polls, they were fun.

can someone please step up and open up poll number 68? i would email people but i'm not running this thread any longer. i could open up the Bauhaus/Love and Rockets poll. not really, way too busy at work at the moment.

calling Gavin, Leeds

here are the next seven:

Extreme Metal - Viceroy
Stephin Merritt - Gukbe - "hey guys if we can push the Merritt thing back (if there's any interest) a month or two that'd be great. ~work stuff~"
Nirvana - Gavin, Leeds
Fairport Convention et al (R Thompson, S Denny) - Billy Dods
Queen - charlie h
Can - Z S
Tom Petty - rogermexico

Just curious, is the ILM 2010-2014 Albums thread scheduled to happen this year?

― Rod Steel (musicfanatic), Saturday, August 8, 2015 5:15 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I need to talk to seandalai and gr80 and see what we're gonna do. It's supposed to get underway this month.

― Johnny Fever, Saturday, August 8, 2015 5:24 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

After some sorting of schedules and whatnot, it looks like the nominating process for this is going to get underway a week from tomorrow (Friday). Three weeks for that. Two weeks for voting. Then the rollouts will start at the beginning of October. In the meantime, you all can bicker about whether or not it should be a 2000-15 poll to celebrate ILM's 15th anniversary or just a 2010-14 poll which would be less interesting and more redundant. ;)

2010-2014 imo, I think it'd be MORE interesting. 15 yr span is nicely symbolic and all but obv way tougher to assemble a meaningful ballot and just functionally much more unwieldy in several ways

Bump. What's the latest news with dese pollz?

everybody that's up next is awol, basically

summer's ending, seems like a good time for Fairport?

Let's do it. Is that solo careers too?

if one of you wants to run that one it's fine with me, I'll move it up the list

seems so

Fairport Convention et al (R Thompson, S Denny) - Billy Dods

yeah I can't run it right now (skool's in)

I'd be all for whoever wants to run one right now, wherever on the list, getting moved up

Covers is my next poll, 30+ away. That'll be sometime under President Trump. I'm more than happy to move that up and do it now, or I can take over an abandoned one.

take yr pick, it's a buyers' market

Covers sounds more fun to me than Fairport.

agreed on that point

covers seems like a complicated nomination process which might not run well alongside the big 2000-2014 poll? but I dunno. obv maximizing fun is the point

I'm not into the 2000-2014 poll idea but that's just me

I'm into whatever will generate fun and/or interesting discussion & I think a retrospective poll will do that

I mean, we can talk about pitchfork's polls, or our own. the latter seems way more fun to me

I'll wait untill the 15 year poll is done.

Covers will be relatively simple: any version of a song that's been previously released on record. So Elvis Presely singing Lieber and Stoller's Jailhouse Rock doesn't count, but Hound Dog would because that had been previously done by Big Mama Thornton.

I'd probably eliminate jazz and classical because that would get really complex, especially since technically classical recording is a cover.

also the demo version of Beethoven's 5th is unfuckwithable

obv maximizing fun is the point

That's the main reason I left it to debate as to whether or not we do 2010-14 or 2000-14, because if nobody wants to do a 15 year retrospective then it won't be much fun. We (me, seandalai and gr80) are cool with going either way.

I'd vote for the 21st century poll instead of the last 5 years, which have kinda sucked for rockists like me

15 years makes more sense to me as a sort of 'faves of the century so far' sort of deal. I think it would have more scope and possibly more variety. I reckon putting the focus on too narrow and recent a time span would mean that the poll would be dominated by stuff that people absolutely love right now that they will have forgotten in a year or two. There's always the EOY polls for that kind for thing.

ILM Top 100 2000-2004: ALBUMS
ILM Top 100 2000-2004: TRACKS
ILM Top 100 2005-2009: ALBUMS
ILM Top 100 2005-2009: TRACKS

I figure there's pushback on a retrospective poll since we already have an established practice of doing 5-year polls, and also because people don't want to slog through 15 years of music to put together a ballot. I'm split on it myself, even. But whichever way we end up going, it will probably look different than the results of the EOY polls.

we need to poll it

my ballot
1. 2000-14
2. 2010-14

I'd probably eliminate jazz and classical because that would get really complex, especially since technically classical recording is a cover.

You'll probably end up including them anyway. >_>

Happy for Fairport Convention to jump ahead - it's probably going to be a month or so before I've got the time free for the Nirvana poll.

I don't really believe we'll get much out of a last-five-year poll that isn't already in the EOY polls for those years. I'd even prefer a 2000-2009 poll over that.

The "event" cache the EOY polls in the last five years have taken on is, I think, greater and more of a gathering for discussion than they were all through the 00s (that's no shade on how musically ran them, but I think we just like to talk a lot more at length about the results now than in the past). That's the reason I don't think a 2010-14 poll would offer as much as the 2000-04 and 2005-09 polls did, because we've talked the results of the last five years to death.

At the same time, I get how combing through 15 years of music is overwhelming. I have my own mixed feelings about taking that on, partly because it's just a lot of time and effort, but partly because I might realize I don't like something as much as I did eleven years ago and that'll be a disappointment. But whatever. There's probably at least as much that I'd like now that I didn't really get or appreciate at the time it was new.

Even though it would be harder to vote in, I'd still throw my hat in with people who want to do the 2000-14 retrospective poll. If the 2010-14 poll is what more people want to do, I'd get behind that too. I'd rather it be a good experience for everyone who votes than any kind of formal obligation.

I'm rooting for C Grisso to jump in and say "hey let's do Bacharach"

I just want something. The polls are always a good time so let's get going.

I'd happily participate in either a 2000-2014 or 2010-2014 poll, but I'd prefer the latter.

I can't wait for the Queen poll, so many deep cuts that I want to rep for.

I'm not into the 2000-2014 poll idea but that's just me

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, August 25, 2015

not just you fwiw

everybody that's up next is awol, basically

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, August 25, 2015

hey i just figured Petty wouldn't start till like the new year but if we want to get rolling i'm game

pls 10-14

id prob participate in 00-14 but otoh maybe not

I'm rooting for C Grisso to jump in and say "hey let's do Bacharach"

― Gett Off, Eileen (WilliamC), Tuesday, August 25, 2015 8:54 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Not yet! Having a rough month at the moment, a byproduct of which is me not getting started on my research (I know stuff, but want to know more...) before getting this one off the blocks. I'm excited to dive in!

Fairport Convention next?

i'd be happy to get Queen underway soon, given that the results might actually coincide with me having a stretch of free time.

do it now!

poll first, ask for forgiveness later

should i just open up Bauhaus/Love and Rockets already?

yes