Hey guys I'm sorry but I won't be able to run the Extreme Metal poll, school is just to intense right now. Maybe lex wants to run it? ;)
― Frobisher, Sunday, 15 February 2015 16:51 (nine years ago) link
Of course, pfunkboy and scik mouthy are free to take my spot and do their all-time poll if they want! If that works with everyone...
― Frobisher, Sunday, 15 February 2015 17:00 (nine years ago) link
Who decides what metal is "Extreme"? Does Ozzy count? How about Slayer? We are going to need to discuss this at length.
― kornrulez6969, Sunday, 15 February 2015 18:01 (nine years ago) link
we need to poll whether we should discuss that at length
― droit au butt (Euler), Sunday, 15 February 2015 18:03 (nine years ago) link
Epic Extreme Metal
― Dinsdale, Sunday, 15 February 2015 18:17 (nine years ago) link
THIS IS NOT AN EPICS POLL: The 10+ minute long nominations thread, ILM Ballot Poll #58
― Godsleee You Black Emperor (Leee), Sunday, 1 March 2015 03:15 (nine years ago) link
Somewhere in our hearts, results won't be the same (Spacemen 3 & etc. ballot results - ILM poll #57)
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 11:30 (nine years ago) link
THIS IS NOT AN EPICS POLL -- classical nomination supplemental thread (ILM Ballot Poll #58)^^ Accepting classical ("classical") nominations now.
― Romo... ROMO! Bring Back Sergio Romo! (Leee), Thursday, 5 March 2015 19:17 (nine years ago) link
so you guys had a whole thread to argue about what was being polled and that turned out so badly you had to make a second one?
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 5 March 2015 19:18 (nine years ago) link
It was fine mostly, I just want to get rid of one sticking point and don't have mod privileges to change the top most and this was the most visible way to let people know.
― Romo... ROMO! Bring Back Sergio Romo! (Leee), Thursday, 5 March 2015 19:27 (nine years ago) link
The no classical rule was there mostly because I didn't want to listen or deal with Xenakis. Sigh.
― Romo... ROMO! Bring Back Sergio Romo! (Leee), Thursday, 5 March 2015 21:14 (nine years ago) link
Have we ever had a ballot with more than 20 entries? How are the points distributed for, say, a 50-item ballot?
― Romo... ROMO! Bring Back Sergio Romo! (Leee), Wednesday, 11 March 2015 17:54 (nine years ago) link
it's not complicated you just adjust the points scale (no. 1 gets 50 points, no. 50 gets 1 point, etc.)
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 March 2015 17:55 (nine years ago) link
this is why you lay out how you're going to assign points at the outset, and how long a ballot you will accept
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 March 2015 17:56 (nine years ago) link
here's a dropbox link to the spreadsheet template I use.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/wtyvbozifqfrtvn/ballot%20poll.xlsx?dl=0
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 March 2015 17:58 (nine years ago) link
SORRY, DAD.
― Romo... ROMO! Bring Back Sergio Romo! (Leee), Wednesday, 11 March 2015 18:14 (nine years ago) link
To answer your first question - yes we have, though not often. Justified in this case IMO. Epics poll => epic length ballots. I'd also welcome a stupidly epic points assignment, e.g. 999 points for your #1, 500 for #2, 250, 200, 150, 145, 140 etc. (or something)
― Jeff W, Wednesday, 11 March 2015 19:50 (nine years ago) link
yr welcome. now go to your room
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 March 2015 20:06 (nine years ago) link
I used a floating Pazz & Jop-type point system for Neil Young--how many points you had to work with depended upon how large your ballot was--with ballots of up to 50 songs. It was quite needlessly complicated.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 11 March 2015 22:47 (nine years ago) link
It was my Blur poll that resulted in this never-ending list being drawn up a few years ago. That poll had 22 spots on the ballot and some of the subsequent ones did too, but it's been tidied up to 20 in most of them.
― (Meme From) Essex Press (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 11 March 2015 22:50 (nine years ago) link
More than a month later and the "epics" poll hasn't even started and the s3 results rollout is proceeding at the rate of one a day. Lol @ this being preceded by the discussion about keeping things moving along at the rate of one poll every couple of weeks.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 12 March 2015 16:38 (nine years ago) link
Right? The plot is entirely lost.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 12 March 2015 16:53 (nine years ago) link
The no classical rule was there mostly because I didn't want to listen or deal with Xenakis. Sigh.― Romo... ROMO! Bring Back Sergio Romo! (Leee), Thursday, 5 March 2015 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Romo... ROMO! Bring Back Sergio Romo! (Leee), Thursday, 5 March 2015 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
The truth comes out ;-)
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 12 March 2015 17:05 (nine years ago) link
someone could just start the next poll then!
― droit au butt (Euler), Thursday, 12 March 2015 17:17 (nine years ago) link
bring on CCR
― droit au butt (Euler), Thursday, 12 March 2015 17:19 (nine years ago) link
the next poll on the list is actually Yo La Tengo/Dump (Clemenza). I would happily tell him to get started if I didn't think people would complain about too many polls going on at once. The "epics" thing has turned into a clusterfuck (just as I predicted) and yet people seem to be enjoying arguing about it and it's not like I can shut it down (much as I would like to), nor can I make Elvis Telecom roll out his results any faster. But at this rate things are gonna be bogged down for awhile.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 12 March 2015 17:21 (nine years ago) link
Oh yes! (xp)
― Walking Close to Melton Mowbray (Tom D.), Thursday, 12 March 2015 17:24 (nine years ago) link
eh I say let's start another. ILM seems very low on chat lately; polls at least present a reason to talk. and I'm not into the current polls for one reason or another
― droit au butt (Euler), Thursday, 12 March 2015 17:24 (nine years ago) link
also dunno where Leee's getting his poll numbering from - the epics poll is no. 64 (Spacemen 3 is no. 63).
current list:63. Spacemen 3 and related acts - Elvis Telecom (link: Everybody I know can be POLLED here: The Spacemen 3, Spectrum, Spiritualized, and descendants poll thread (ILM Artist Poll Thread #57))64. “Epics” - Leee (link: THIS IS NOT AN EPICS POLL: The 10+ minute long nominations thread, ILM Ballot Poll #58)65. Yo La Tengo/Dump - Clemenza66. The Boo Radleys - Bee OK67. Emo/Screamo/Mallcore/(post)Hardcore - Mordy68. Creedence Clearwater Revival - crüt69. Hard Rock/Hair Metal - how’s life70. Extreme Metal - Viceroy71. Stephin Merritt - Gukbe72. Metallica - Pleasant Plains73. Spoon - Bee OK74. Nirvana - Gavin, Leeds75. Fairport Convention et al (R Thompson, S Denny) - Billy Dods76. Queen - charlie h77. Can - Z S78. Tom Petty - rogermexico79. Ramones - tipsy mothra (finished)80. Jimi Hendrix - some dude81. Stereolab - Moka82. Bauhaus/Tones on Tail-Love and Rockets/Peter Murphy - Bee OK83. Genesis + solo - NickB84. The Smiths - nate woolls85. Pearl Jam - VegemiteGrrl86. The Burt Bacharach songbook - C. Grisso/McCain87. Dead C - Raymond Cummings88. Royal Trux + side projects - sleeve89. John Fahey - Naive Teen Idol?90. Rush - Matt #291. Oasis - pollrunner needed for this one92. George Michael - Ismael Klata93. Talking Heads - Bee OK94. Gamble & Huff/Philly International Records - jetfan95. Van Halen - Johnny Fever96. Billy Joel - Doctor Casino97. Low - aldo98. Nine Inch Nails - chap99. REM - rogermexico.100. Bjork - Eric H.101. Wu-Tang Clan - Spottie102. Shoegaze/Dream Pop/Post-rock (Albums and EPs) - Bee OK103. Covers - kornrulez6969104. New Pornographers/AC Newman - staggerlee105. They Might Be Giants - Johnny Fever106. No Wave - sarahell107. DFA - Van Horn Street108. Misfits/Samhain/Danzig - gr8080109. Beatles solo careers - Οὖτις110. Erykah Badu - Eric H.111. Nick Cave/Bad Seeds/Birthday Party/et al - charlie h112. Herbie Hancock - crüt113. Aphex Twin - Stevie D114. Blondie - Bee OK115. Electroclash - soref116. Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis - Spottie117. Siouxsie & the Banshees/The Creatures - LeRooLeRoo118. AM Radio Gold - Jeff W119. Eurovision - nxd120. Steve Albini - nate woolls121. Yellow Magic Orchestra - frogbs122. Elvis Presley - Euler123. Byrds + offshoots - kornrulez6969124. Cardiacs + affiliated - imago125. Tropicalia/MPB - Frederik B126. Chic Organization - 127. Stooges/Iggy Pop -
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 12 March 2015 17:24 (nine years ago) link
The "epics" thing has turned into a clusterfuck
Not even close.
I have no problem with the next poll going, as I'm going to give an extended amount of time for people to figure out their ballots.
― Romo... ROMO! Bring Back Sergio Romo! (Leee), Thursday, 12 March 2015 17:32 (nine years ago) link
the audiences for the ones up through CCR are probably tiny enough that they could all run simultaneously without threatening ILM's attention spam imo
― droit au butt (Euler), Thursday, 12 March 2015 17:37 (nine years ago) link
I realise that it's years until it would happen anyway, but I want to withdraw myself from the electroclash poll, I don't think I'd be able to deliver the desirable level of finesse and sparkle. If anyone else was interested enough to take over I wouldn't mind adding up ballots if they handle images/MCing threads etc
― soref, Tuesday, December 16, 2014 8:08 PM (2 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― I took part in a race last week and Jenny was the name of my horse (soref), Thursday, 12 March 2015 19:42 (nine years ago) link
Sorry i missed that, i'll remove that one
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 12 March 2015 19:44 (nine years ago) link
thanks!
― I took part in a race last week and Jenny was the name of my horse (soref), Thursday, 12 March 2015 19:45 (nine years ago) link
altho I don't want to question yr decision I want to state for the record thay I wld love a soref-helmed electroclash poll
― ogmor, Thursday, 12 March 2015 23:06 (nine years ago) link
i was going to stay out of this but since i use to manage this thread and there seems to be some confusion on the numbering (it actually makes sense). completed and in progress:
A. Pavement - Johnny Fever (finished) B. Manic Street Preachers - Jamie_ATP (finished)C. Blur - Nasty, Brutish & Short (finished)1. Pet Shop Boys - Billy Dods (finished)2. Beatles - Mark G (finished)3. Prince - Jamie_ATP (finished)4. U2 - Ismael Klata (finished)5. Beach Boys - iatee (finished)6. Led Zeppelin - WmC (finished)7. Timbaland - some dude (finished)8. Guided By Voices - Johnny Fever (finished)9. Stevie Wonder - Eric H. (finished)10. “Producers” - Shakey Mo Collier (finished)11. Pulp - Finefinemusic (finished)12. James Brown - strongo/Shakey Mo Collier (finished)13. Jacksons - Jamie_ATP (finished)14. David Bowie - WmC (finished)15. Paul Simon - Lamp (finished)16. Rolling Stones - rogermexico (finished)17. The Kinks - C. Grisso/McCain (finished)18. Depeche Mode - crüt (finished)19. Beastie Boys - Johnny Fever (finished)20. ABBA - donna rouge (finished)20B. Bee Gees - Shakey Mo Collier (finished)21. Neil Young - clemenza (finished)22. Fleetwood Mac - Clarke B. (finished)23. The Cure - nate woolls (finished)24. Kate Bush - Ismael Klata (finished)25. The Who - Tarfumes the Escape Goat (finished)26. Joni Mitchell - Mordy (finished)27. The Neptunes - V79/some dude (finished)28. Saint Etienne - Billy Dods (finished)29. Hüsker Dü - Pleasant Plains (finished)30. Bruce Springsteen - Jamie_ATP (finished)31. Madonna - Johnny Fever (finished)32. Miles Davis - WmC (finished)33. The Fall - Mark G (finished)34. PJ Harvey - Nasty, Brutish & Short (finished)35. Cocteau Twins - Le Bateau Ivre/LeRooLeRoo (finished)36. Sonic Youth - ArchCarrier (finished)37. New Order - Bee OK (finished)37B. The Doors - Ismael Klata (finished)38. The Clash - Gukbe (finished)39. Motown Singles - a hoy hoy (finished)40. Jay-Z - some dude (finished)41. Elton John - Johnny Fever (finished)42. Stax - seandalai (finished)43. Disco - Tuomas (finished)44. R. Kelly - Spottie_Ottie_Dope (finished)45. Tom Waits - chap (finished)45B. Velvet Underground and Solo Careers - Shakey Mo Collier (finished)46. The “Classic Rock” Canon - some dude (finished)47. Elvis Costello - kornrulez (finished)48. Roxy Music/Bryan Ferry - charlie h (finished)49. Pink Floyd - Elvis Telecom (finished)50. Steely Dan - Bee OK (finished)51. Bob Dylan - tipsy mothra (finished)52. Sleater-Kinney + offshoots - C.Grisso/McCain (finished)53. Outkast - Spottie (finished)54. Autechre - Leee (finished)55. Brian Eno - WmC (finished)56. Radiohead - nate woolls57. Spaceman 3 (& descendants) - Elvis Telecom Somewhere in our hearts, results won't be the same (Spacemen 3 & etc. ballot results - ILM poll #57)58. "Epics" - Leee THIS IS NOT AN EPICS POLL: The 10+ minute long nominations thread, ILM Ballot Poll #5859. XTC - Οὖτις (finished)60. Yo La Tengo/Dump - clemenza61. The Boo Radleys - Bee OK62. Italo - daavid (finished)
69. Pixies - Johnny Fever (finished)
79. Ramones - tipsy mothra (finished)
― Bee OK, Friday, 13 March 2015 07:07 (nine years ago) link
sorry56. Radiohead - nate woolls (finished) also:
61. The Boo Radleys... 61. P-Funk - Οὖτις (finished)
― Bee OK, Friday, 13 March 2015 07:46 (nine years ago) link
well if you sequentially number the 7 that were completed out of order (or without a number at all) seems to me that makes more sense. and is how i have it in the list.
― Οὖτις, Friday, 13 March 2015 16:07 (nine years ago) link
eh I say let's start another. ILM seems very low on chat lately; polls at least present a reason to talk.
Yes, let's get to the next poll!! I can't take anymore Christgau and Kim Gordon bashing, and the epics poll is taking way too long.
― kornrulez6969, Friday, 13 March 2015 17:53 (nine years ago) link
I feel like it should be: 2/3 days for noms, 5 to 7 days for listening, then voting starts.
― Dinsdale, Friday, 13 March 2015 18:05 (nine years ago) link
91. Oasis - pollrunner needed for this one
put this one out of our misery imo
― nashwan, Friday, 13 March 2015 18:20 (nine years ago) link
I would take an Oasis poll over nothing, "Columbia" is a jam
― droit au butt (Euler), Friday, 13 March 2015 19:05 (nine years ago) link
that's basically it but that's an easy poll to run
― droit au butt (Euler), Friday, 13 March 2015 19:07 (nine years ago) link
As I've mentioned a couple of times, I (and mookieproof, and van horn street, I think) can begin Yo La Tengo the day school ends. I was hoping one or two people would go first: Radiohead, maybe someone else, too.
― clemenza, Saturday, 14 March 2015 00:16 (nine years ago) link
I can start Yo La Tengo in a month if you guys want! Before that it might be difficult.
― Van Horn Street, Saturday, 14 March 2015 00:18 (nine years ago) link
Actually, since I'm only doing images, a month from now would be fine for me. I could get a bunch of images ready ahead of time and just add text later.
― clemenza, Saturday, 14 March 2015 00:21 (nine years ago) link
ok, i will open The Boo Radleys if no one objects.
― Bee OK, Saturday, 14 March 2015 02:13 (nine years ago) link
Fine w me. Will move you up the list
― Οὖτις, Saturday, 14 March 2015 02:20 (nine years ago) link
can you take me off the list? my work commitments are too much now, there's no way i can commit to running a poll sorry :(
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 14 March 2015 02:49 (nine years ago) link
Veg, that poll is like 2-3 years away.
― Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 14 March 2015 03:28 (nine years ago) link