ILM Ballot Polls for 2014 and beyond -- order, timing, "I would have voted if I'd known about it," etc

At this rate the only qualified track will be "And you and I" Yes!

Is there a limit to number of Fela songs we can vote for?

*the number

I agree that 10 minutes should be the absolute minimum length for the epic poll, otherwise you could just nominate a whole bunch of normal, not-particularly-epic techno/jazz/prog/etc tunes. Though I'm fine with a 15 minute minimum too.

― Tuomas,

you could always allow epic rock tracks under 10 mins but make techno/jazz etc be over 15 I suppose. Obviously jazz and techno has a huge advantage otherwise.

lol

more eligible tracks != an advantage

20

also we don't really need to have an argument about what constitutes rock/techno/jazz on top of everything else

How about making the limit after the best known longest rock track so no rock gets in?
Tuomas otm

Just make it 60 mins and we can declare Boris - Absolutego and Corrupted - El Mundo Frio the winners now.

big ups to my mans Morton Feldman

with BT in 3rd place

oh wait nm no classical

jfc just let everyone vote for whatever they want and see what happens. that will make for the most interesting set of results anyway.

does terry riley count as 'classical'?

of course

if its just a poll on unusually long tracks then perhaps it should be 20+ mins

Is there a top limit? (asked The Flaming Lips...)

the minimum & maximum is 4:20

Uh, do live versions count?

the higher the maximum the more chance jam bands will be the dominant rock form! Phish and Grateful Dead are finally taking over ilx!

You bastards, I'm just going to poll 4'33" now.

first ten to fifteen seconds >>> middle four minutes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> last ten to fifteen seconds

you guys aren't still discussing epics poll, are you

discussion of epics poll must be limited to 15 minutes

the length of an epic should be polled first

FYI, the Italo poll is officially done.

So, this is kinda gay but has ILM ever done a divas poll?

which poster is the biggest diva on ilm poll? Can just imagine the fun on that nomination thread.

lex

Hey guys I'm sorry but I won't be able to run the Extreme Metal poll, school is just to intense right now. Maybe lex wants to run it? ;)

Of course, pfunkboy and scik mouthy are free to take my spot and do their all-time poll if they want! If that works with everyone...

Who decides what metal is "Extreme"? Does Ozzy count? How about Slayer? We are going to need to discuss this at length.

we need to poll whether we should discuss that at length

Epic Extreme Metal

THIS IS NOT AN EPICS POLL: The 10+ minute long nominations thread, ILM Ballot Poll #58

Somewhere in our hearts, results won't be the same (Spacemen 3 & etc. ballot results - ILM poll #57)

THIS IS NOT AN EPICS POLL -- classical nomination supplemental thread (ILM Ballot Poll #58)
^^ Accepting classical ("classical") nominations now.

so you guys had a whole thread to argue about what was being polled and that turned out so badly you had to make a second one?

It was fine mostly, I just want to get rid of one sticking point and don't have mod privileges to change the top most and this was the most visible way to let people know.

The no classical rule was there mostly because I didn't want to listen or deal with Xenakis. Sigh.

Have we ever had a ballot with more than 20 entries? How are the points distributed for, say, a 50-item ballot?

it's not complicated you just adjust the points scale (no. 1 gets 50 points, no. 50 gets 1 point, etc.)

this is why you lay out how you're going to assign points at the outset, and how long a ballot you will accept

here's a dropbox link to the spreadsheet template I use.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/wtyvbozifqfrtvn/ballot%20poll.xlsx?dl=0

SORRY, DAD.

To answer your first question - yes we have, though not often. Justified in this case IMO. Epics poll => epic length ballots. I'd also welcome a stupidly epic points assignment, e.g. 999 points for your #1, 500 for #2, 250, 200, 150, 145, 140 etc. (or something)

SORRY, DAD.

yr welcome. now go to your room

I used a floating Pazz & Jop-type point system for Neil Young--how many points you had to work with depended upon how large your ballot was--with ballots of up to 50 songs. It was quite needlessly complicated.

It was my Blur poll that resulted in this never-ending list being drawn up a few years ago. That poll had 22 spots on the ballot and some of the subsequent ones did too, but it's been tidied up to 20 in most of them.