OK, is this the worst piece of music writing ever?

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if this was c.jan '13 there'd be a joke about tescos and turduckens in there

sktsh, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 22:06 (ten years ago) link

I feel kind of blessed that Britpop was just never a significant or noteworthy force in my life. It just kind of passed over me like a cloud. Small good things.

Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 30 April 2014 01:54 (ten years ago) link

Girls & Boys by Blur is a jam. Good job England

dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 30 April 2014 02:46 (ten years ago) link

Girls & Boys the only blur i really need. love it so much. still probably my fave 80's homage of the last 25 years.

scott seward, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 02:57 (ten years ago) link

when "Girls & Boys" was briefly Blur's big song in America i thought "they're huge in England, they must have good songs that are hits over there and then they just sent something uncharacteristically dumb over to break America." not only was i totally wrong but basically predicting "Song 2."

some dude, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 03:53 (ten years ago) link

When Song 2 came out I remember thinking "this is weird, it seems like it should rock really, really hard, and yet somehow it doesn't quite"

Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 30 April 2014 04:05 (ten years ago) link

this is why we can't have nice things

whatchutola khomeini (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 30 April 2014 04:32 (ten years ago) link

I'm confused as to whose side I'm on.

Herbie Handcock (Murgatroid), Wednesday, 30 April 2014 04:48 (ten years ago) link

“You’re not allowed to sit on these things for half a century, not when the culture has decided they matter,” Mr. Sullivan writes in the article, referring to the transcript.

how's life, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 09:15 (ten years ago) link

~~someone~~ is gunning for a job w/ the salinger estate

j., Wednesday, 30 April 2014 09:26 (ten years ago) link

This part is kinda unsettling:

Mr. Sullivan, for his part, defended his actions to the Observer in a telephone conversation shortly after the article was published.

“I won’t try to make it sound like I didn’t struggle with it,” he said of the ethical blurriness of the situation. “It’s not the kind of thing you want to do with every story.”

He added, however, that he was legally in the clear, as one cannot own somebody else’s speech, and Mr. McCormick’s transcript features the words of Elvie Thomas. (“You’re not allowed to sit on these things for half a century, not when the culture has decided they matter,” Mr. Sullivan writes in the article, referring to the transcript.)

Ms. McCormick called Mr. Sullivan’s comments “glib.”

“There is reason to believe this theft of my father’s research was their intention all along,” she said, “and that they have stolen far more from him than just the items Sullivan has publicly admitted.”

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 12:02 (ten years ago) link

i feel like nobody comes out of this well, which might be a cop-out but hey

you poll a lot, but you're not saying anything (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 30 April 2014 12:09 (ten years ago) link

i guess it's hard for me to feel too much for either party, it's just two people from the same culture of eggheads that have made a cottage industry of fetishizing and collecting and hoarding precious facts and recordings about old blues singers. i guess if geechie or elvie were alive or if their families were complaining about how they never wanted to be found out or revealed i would have a problem, but honestly i feel for mccormick who seems like a real character and obviously is going through a lot of stuff, and who knows? maybe the sullivan is shady, but i kind of feel like none of this stuff really BELONGS to either of them

it was a hell of an article i will say that

dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 30 April 2014 13:37 (ten years ago) link

He added, however, that he was legally in the clear, as one cannot own somebody else’s speech

But Sullivan published someone else's research without consent or (presumably) compensation. As a journalist, he should fucking understand that.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 30 April 2014 14:59 (ten years ago) link

i think the phrase "legally in the clear" draws an obvious distinction from "behaved ethically"

you poll a lot, but you're not saying anything (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 30 April 2014 15:02 (ten years ago) link

Yeah seems like a dick move

idontknowanythingabouttechnlolgeez (waterface), Wednesday, 30 April 2014 15:02 (ten years ago) link

i'm glad he did it. who knows, that old coot could burn his house down in the middle of the night. i support this theft. it was iphone pictures of documentation, right? i don't know the rules of consent when someone invites you into their home. can you get sued if you take a picture of someone's cat without their knowledge and post it on the internet?

scott seward, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 16:10 (ten years ago) link

i am also in favor of frivolous lawsuits against the new york times for reasons of mental anguish though. i've wanted to sue them for this many times over the years.

scott seward, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 16:11 (ten years ago) link

i mean i definitely did think about what that old coot was gonna think when he read the thing or if he was gonna have a heart attack or possibly burn his collection out of anger. but i think overall the thing was worth it. it's love and theft. that's the blues, baby. truman capote isn't really your friend. and neither are the hell's angels.

scott seward, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 16:20 (ten years ago) link

'every journalist who is not too stupid or full of himself to notice what is going on knows that what he does is morally indefensible. he is a kind of confidence man, preying on people's vanity, ignorance, or loneliness, gaining their trust and betraying them without remorse.' - janet malcolm

balls, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 16:27 (ten years ago) link

fair points

idontknowanythingabouttechnlolgeez (waterface), Wednesday, 30 April 2014 16:34 (ten years ago) link

i don't think that family is comparable to a biker gang or a convicted murderer?

sitting on a claud all day gotta make your butt numb (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 30 April 2014 17:32 (ten years ago) link

truman capote didn't just write about murderers. mentioned the hell's angels merely to point out that if you write stuff like the NYT piece you are gonna get heat. not beat up, probably, but heat nonetheless.

scott seward, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 17:46 (ten years ago) link

A guy told me one time, "Don't let yourself get attached to any blues memorabilia you are not willing to walk out on in 30 seconds flat if you feel the heat around the corner."

the glimmer man (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 30 April 2014 19:31 (ten years ago) link

scott, it felt like a fair assumption you were doing an in cold blood / hst comparison there

sitting on a claud all day gotta make your butt numb (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 30 April 2014 21:35 (ten years ago) link

answered prayers is where capote drew the charges of betrayal and was ostracized by his friends

balls, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 22:28 (ten years ago) link

Throughout their hour-plus set, the three sisters shook their luxurious manes and showed emotion by running fingers through their perfectly conditioned hair. If the music thing does not work out, they can count on a lucrative contract endorsing Neutrogena or Herbal Essences.

Remember when they said this about the Screaming Trees?

how's life, Thursday, 1 May 2014 18:36 (ten years ago) link

and they can play!

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 May 2014 18:40 (ten years ago) link

what a fucking douche. Just when I start to think rockism is an irrelevant concept now.

Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Thursday, 1 May 2014 18:46 (ten years ago) link

look at those bitches with their hair

sitting on a claud all day gotta make your butt numb (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 1 May 2014 18:49 (ten years ago) link

Because, at the moment, not only do their lyrics and stage presence not only lack sophistication, but none of their songs contain the timeless stupidity of a catchy hook like "MMMbop" had, though their "Wire" comes the closest.

diagram THAT monstrosity

sitting on a claud all day gotta make your butt numb (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 1 May 2014 18:52 (ten years ago) link

lol at hurting going HAIM in the comments

sitting on a claud all day gotta make your butt numb (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 1 May 2014 18:53 (ten years ago) link

yeah didn't mean to triple post that, hope that's fixed now

Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Thursday, 1 May 2014 18:56 (ten years ago) link

girls aren't sophisticated see

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 May 2014 18:59 (ten years ago) link

If you scroll back far enough in his reviews you find out he like Cat Power though so

Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Thursday, 1 May 2014 18:59 (ten years ago) link

fortunately every Bryan Ferry review I've ever written mentions his hair

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 May 2014 18:59 (ten years ago) link

A poll on that telegraph article up thread
Worst Thing In This Daily Telegraph "10 ways Britpop changed modern manhood" Article

۩, Thursday, 1 May 2014 19:03 (ten years ago) link

Possibly the most notes I ever got on a Tumblr post was that time I went to an Interpol gig and reviewed their haircuts!

(granted, it may have been semi-parodic)

Bramble Bluebell (Branwell Bell), Thursday, 1 May 2014 19:18 (ten years ago) link

Pretty sure most reviews of Hanson mentioned their hair too.

▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 1 May 2014 19:19 (ten years ago) link

and Nelson, remember them? "The Timotei Twins"

۩, Thursday, 1 May 2014 20:00 (ten years ago) link

And the Beatles.

▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 1 May 2014 20:04 (ten years ago) link

Yeah but that was because they looked like girls with girl hair and as such were unworthy of anything more complex in terms of criticism than "lol ur hair"

sitting on a claud all day gotta make your butt numb (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 1 May 2014 20:05 (ten years ago) link

to be fair who didn't lol at Nelson's hair?

۩, Thursday, 1 May 2014 20:18 (ten years ago) link

not damaged/depressed = "not sophisticated" is an annoying trope in its own right, and one that probably overlaps with the gender stuff at issue here but is not exclusive to it

Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Thursday, 1 May 2014 20:22 (ten years ago) link

vmg's overall music-bloggage quality was pretty awful with a few exceptions (hi reed, thanks for being awesome) but miami's was always the most consistently embarrassing. good to see they're keeping it up

maura, Thursday, 1 May 2014 21:19 (ten years ago) link

I've thought about pitching stories but

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 May 2014 21:20 (ten years ago) link


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