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1. It made us patriotic

Pre-Britpop, we looked across the Atlantic for cool, exciting new stuff: be it grunge or hip-hop, action blockbusters or cult Tarantino films, Friends or The X-Files. But for five halcyon years in the mid-90s, Blighty was where it was at: Blur vs Oasis, Cool Britannia, Euro ’96, TFI Friday, Lock Stock, Spice Girls, Young British Artists, Trainspotting… We were reminded of the greatness on our own doorstep. That feeling of renewed national pride has never left us. We might again be in thrall to American tech, Italian food or Scandi design, but we’ve learnt to love our country again too. Look at London 2012 – it was well Britpop.

2. It improved our dress sense

There wasn’t just a Britpop band called Menswe@r (doesn’t that “@“ date them?): it was a glorious time for actual menswear too. Designer terrace threads by Stone Island, GioGoi, Paul Smith and Duffer of St George. Fila and Adidas trackie tops. Cords, desert boots, vintage Ts and Harrington jackets. We dressed like a cross between 60s bands, 70s teachers and 80s hooligans. It helped revive homegrown heritage labels like Clarks, Aquascutum, Doc Marten, Fred Perry and Burberry. Brit menswear has since gone from strength to strength.

3. It wasn’t to be sniffed at

“All your dreams are made / When you're chained to the mirror and the razorblade.” Ecstasy had been the drug of choice since Madchester and acid house but when Oasis arrived, it was riding on a huge snow-drift of cocaine. It suited Britpop’s cocky, beery swagger. As rock’n’roll poet Murray Lachlan Young titled his 1996 poem: “Simply Everyone’s Taking Cocaine”. It made a generation feel beautiful and invincible. Coke’s never really fallen out of fashion since.

4. It made football cool again

From Three Lions to the Gallaghers' Man City shirts, the beautiful game became linked with the music scene for the first time since George Best.

5. It revived live music

Sweaty Suede and Elastica tours. Bouncing around to Supergrass. Blur live at Mile End Stadium. Glastonbury 95, headlined by Oasis and Pulp. Britpop made us fall in love with gigs again. By 1996, the Gallagher brothers marked their imperious peak with two nights at Knebworth and there were a mad-fer-it 2.6m applications for tickets (still a record today). It kickstarted the festival boom and two decades of live music making a mint.

6. It was central to the radio revolution

In 1993, new Radio 1 controller Matthew Bannister exiled the old guard of Smashy ’n' Nicey-style DJs and replaced them with young talent like Steve Lamacq, Jo Whiley and Chris Evans — all of whom wanted to play new British music. The trickle-down is still being felt on Radios 1 and 2, 6Music, Absolute and Xfm today.

7. It made boys be boys

Sure, there were Britpop girls - Elastica’s Justine Frischmnn, say, or Louise Wener off of Sleeper - but it was mainly about lads being lads. I don’t mean that tedious “wahey, boobz and bantz!” kind of laddishess. I mean an old-fashioned, faintly roguish joy in just being a cheeky tearaway who likes football, beer, rock music and male bonding. Let’s have it! Mad fer it! Parklife! Etc.

8. It made us cook

Without Britpop there would have been no Jamie Oliver: the mop-topped, bish-bash-boshing Naked Chef, riding his scooter and listening to (eek!) Toploader. And without Jamie Oliver, a generation of fellas wouldn’t be dedicated foodies. “Look at this bad boy! Wallop! Pukka!” *"Blood Sausage!" Etc.

9. It made us culturally cleverer

Britpop is often stereotyped as lumpenly thuggish but it made young men smarter too. We were inspired to explore its musical influences: not just the Beatles but The Who, The Kinks, Bowie, The Byrds, The Jam, Sex Pistols and Small Faces. In their lyrics and interviews, Damon Albarn, Brett Anderson and Jarvis Cocker were our literate, art-schoolish big brothers in the way Morrissey was a decade earlier.

10. It made us go down the pub

All we needed were cigarettes and alcohol. And if it had a jukebox too, all the better. In the late 80s and early 90s, we had our heads turned by posh bars serving poncey bottled beers and cocktails. Britpop put paid to such pretensions. After all, its spiritual epicentre was the north London neighbourhood of Camden, particularly a grotty old man’s boozer on Inverness Street called The Good Mixer. The ubiquitous, artfully distressed gastropubs of today owe a debt to “The Mixer”.

*may not have been said in the real article.

Poll Results

OptionVotes
7. It made boys be boys 19
5. It revived live music 12
8. It made us cook 11
9. It made us culturally cleverer 10
3. It wasn’t to be sniffed at 7
1. It made us patriotic 4
10. It made us go down the pub 3
2. It improved our dress sense 2
4. It made football cool again 1
6. It was central to the radio revolution 0


۩, Thursday, 1 May 2014 17:32 (nine years ago) link

3 or 7 in the running for second place but #1 has to be

8. It made us cook

Without Britpop there would have been no Jamie Oliver: the mop-topped, bish-bash-boshing Naked Chef, riding his scooter and listening to (eek!) Toploader. And without Jamie Oliver, a generation of fellas wouldn’t be dedicated foodies. “Look at this bad boy! Wallop! Pukka!” *"Blood Sausage!" Etc.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Thursday, 1 May 2014 17:34 (nine years ago) link

As good candidates they all are, and as daft as some are, it has to be 9. It made us culturally cleverer.
This was the era of Oasis talking about never having read a book.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ce7t_NyPkmo

۩, Thursday, 1 May 2014 17:41 (nine years ago) link

Michael Hogan

Michael Hogan is a Telegraph writer specialising in TV and radio. He regularly live blogs The Voice, Strictly Come Dancing, The X Factor and The Apprentice.

Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln (nakhchivan), Thursday, 1 May 2014 17:44 (nine years ago) link

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Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln (nakhchivan), Thursday, 1 May 2014 17:45 (nine years ago) link

"3. It wasn’t to be sniffed at" for wretched coke-punnery, although lol at this fool thinking that the Doc Marten revival had anything to do with Britpop.

how's life, Thursday, 1 May 2014 17:46 (nine years ago) link

This makes me feel completely fucking stabby.

Most of the time I don't see what you guys are getting outraged about in the whole "bad music journalism" stakes but this really makes me want to kill someone.

Bramble Bluebell (Branwell Bell), Thursday, 1 May 2014 17:56 (nine years ago) link

Britpop was unadulterated waste and still I feel this cunt is doing it down

wins, Thursday, 1 May 2014 18:02 (nine years ago) link

i can't get past 9; the idea that being aware of bowie and the who 'made young men smarter' is just...

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 1 May 2014 18:04 (nine years ago) link

smart ppl know about stuff so knowing that some stuff exists makes u smart

wins, Thursday, 1 May 2014 18:06 (nine years ago) link

duh

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 1 May 2014 18:07 (nine years ago) link

my favorite phrase here is "poncey bottled beers"

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 1 May 2014 18:07 (nine years ago) link

It's basic science xp

wins, Thursday, 1 May 2014 18:07 (nine years ago) link

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marcos, Thursday, 1 May 2014 18:13 (nine years ago) link

Coke’s never really fallen out of fashion since!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

marcos, Thursday, 1 May 2014 18:14 (nine years ago) link

“Look at this bad boy! Wallop! Pukka!” *"Blood Sausage!" Etc."J Oliver's severed cock injected with molten soap"

xelab, Thursday, 1 May 2014 18:26 (nine years ago) link

Literally all these thing are terrible except for live music, which I'm pretty sure Nirvana at Reading would have some quibbles about

whatchutola khomeini (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 1 May 2014 18:28 (nine years ago) link

xp severed manhood & shriveled listicles itt

wins, Thursday, 1 May 2014 18:33 (nine years ago) link

Literally all these thing are terrible except for live music, which I'm pretty sure Nirvana at Reading would have some quibbles about

Many would complain that britpop and its after effects ruined festivals like Glastonbury and it attracted laddish beer monsters to gigs and how it was all better in ye olde days

۩, Thursday, 1 May 2014 19:02 (nine years ago) link

that cokepun doesn't even make any sense. apparently it WAS to be sniffed at.

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 1 May 2014 19:04 (nine years ago) link

Hardest poll ever

paolo, Thursday, 1 May 2014 19:39 (nine years ago) link

Dress-sense one is very wrong. Football terrace fashion had been in full swing for a at least a decade by this point. Whether or not you prefer a pastel-shade Pringle sweater over an "Adidas trackie top", burgundy sta-press over cords or desert boots over patent leather slip-ons with a gilt buckle is pretty much down to individual taste.

everything, Thursday, 1 May 2014 19:46 (nine years ago) link

Voting "it made football cool again" because as a US citizen, I'm not sure football has ever been uncool in the UK.

▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 1 May 2014 20:06 (nine years ago) link

It actually was "uncool" with the non-working classes for a long time but the new stadiums and big signings due to tv money had a bigger effect. Now its too expensive to go to for most people.

۩, Thursday, 1 May 2014 20:17 (nine years ago) link

10. Easy

Mark G, Thursday, 1 May 2014 20:23 (nine years ago) link

Yes mother, Friday night, it's all gonna kick off

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pajpJKznF9A

out comes stanley, Thursday, 1 May 2014 20:44 (nine years ago) link

This article is just so fucking cunting stupid.

Toni Braxton-Hicks (Turrican), Thursday, 1 May 2014 21:45 (nine years ago) link

As rock’n’roll poet Murray Lachlan Young titled his 1996 poem As rock’n’roll poet Murray Lachlan Young titled his 1996 poem As rock’n’roll poet Murray Lachlan Young titled his 1996 poem As rock’n’roll poet Murray Lachlan Young titled his 1996 poem As rock’n’roll poet Murray Lachlan Young titled his 1996 poem As rock’n’roll poet Murray Lachlan Young titled his 1996 poem As rock’n’roll poet Murray Lachlan Young titled his 1996 poem As rock’n’roll poet Murray Lachlan Young titled his 1996 poem

Prostitute Farm Online (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 1 May 2014 22:51 (nine years ago) link

Michael Hogan ‏@michaelhogan Apr 30

Long bad Wednesday :( #RIPBobHoskins

Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln (nakhchivan), Thursday, 1 May 2014 23:24 (nine years ago) link

that article has a lot of meme which must be kept alive IMO

dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 1 May 2014 23:30 (nine years ago) link

“wahey, boobz and bantz!” kind of laddishess.

what is wahey and bantz?

dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 1 May 2014 23:31 (nine years ago) link

Britpop is often stereotyped as lumpenly thuggish but it made young men smarter too. We were inspired to explore its musical influences: not just the Beatles but The Who, The Kinks, Bowie, The Byrds, The Jam, Sex Pistols and Small Faces.

the 'not just' here is probably the best bit of the whole thing

Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln (nakhchivan), Thursday, 1 May 2014 23:35 (nine years ago) link

LOL yeah digging deep there.

▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 1 May 2014 23:37 (nine years ago) link

Sex Pistols were a side project of the bass player for Rich Kids iirc

dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 1 May 2014 23:39 (nine years ago) link

7. It made boys be boys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ADgCeYJMN4

Frontier Psychiatrist, Friday, 2 May 2014 00:02 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukA8ocBJu2M

how's life, Friday, 2 May 2014 00:12 (nine years ago) link

This article was one of the worst I've read. Cant believe someone got paid for writing it.

۩, Friday, 2 May 2014 01:20 (nine years ago) link

And I don't know WHY it even got written. If it had been a lads mag or something I'd understand, but the torygraph?

۩, Friday, 2 May 2014 01:30 (nine years ago) link

I don’t mean that tedious “wahey, boobz and bantz!” kind of laddishess oh wait that's exactly what I mean never mind.

olly, Friday, 2 May 2014 12:26 (nine years ago) link

It's just a bit of bantz.

Mark G, Friday, 2 May 2014 12:30 (nine years ago) link

i'm actually in a state of shock this is so terrible

the same author wrote an execrable "why beards are the new penises" piece in shortlist yesterday. gotta be a contender for worst writer in britain right now

lex pretend, Friday, 2 May 2014 12:32 (nine years ago) link

really, what is "wahey"?

how's life, Friday, 2 May 2014 12:34 (nine years ago) link

It's a kind of all-purpose rousing cheer, roughly equivalent to "Here we go!"

goth colouring book (anagram), Friday, 2 May 2014 12:37 (nine years ago) link

It's a Chris Evans thing, I think.

Mark G, Friday, 2 May 2014 12:44 (nine years ago) link

"Wahey" is way, way older than Chris Evans. We were reading it in the Beano back in the 70s.

Bramble Bluebell (Branwell Bell), Friday, 2 May 2014 12:46 (nine years ago) link

the same author wrote an execrable "why beards are the new penises" piece in shortlist yesterday. gotta be a contender for worst writer in britain right now

― lex pretend,

wait a min, what??? Link please?

۩, Friday, 2 May 2014 12:57 (nine years ago) link

same guy wrote this: http://www.shortlist.com/grooming/why-beards-are-the-new-penises

:(((((((

xp

lex pretend, Friday, 2 May 2014 12:58 (nine years ago) link

It's a kind of all-purpose rousing cheer, roughly equivalent to "Here we go!"

it has overtones of leering crepeyness in an on the buses way too though

john wahey (NickB), Friday, 2 May 2014 12:58 (nine years ago) link

really, what is "wahey"?

Man flashes Queen, shouts "wahey!"

Diddley Hollyberry (Phil D.), Friday, 2 May 2014 12:59 (nine years ago) link

Facial foliage isn’t the sole preserve of hipsters any more. The beard revival might have started in Brooklyn and east London – where social-media strategists, web designers, barmen and baristas like to pretend they’re alt-folk musicians or artisan lumberjacks, teaming a well-groomed beard with tweed, tattoos and a fixie – but now beards are mainstream. Beards have gone commercial. They’re playing arenas and doing dodgy ads.

Everyone’s got one. Even some of the women.

۩, Friday, 2 May 2014 13:03 (nine years ago) link

pukka!

marcos, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 21:12 (nine years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Thursday, 15 May 2014 00:01 (nine years ago) link

this wastemans twitter feed is the most abject shit imaginable, nexus of aging landfill media cunts retweeting each others tryhand bantz about the worthless british culture of their youth, every single one of them is human faeces

Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln (nakhchivan), Thursday, 15 May 2014 00:26 (nine years ago) link

^^^^^^

nothing but contempt and immense disapproval of everyone i know who tacitly approves of that shit

lex pretend, Thursday, 15 May 2014 06:40 (nine years ago) link

On the 'ead!

now I'm the grandfather (dog latin), Thursday, 15 May 2014 09:16 (nine years ago) link

Fancy a ruby? Man on!

now I'm the grandfather (dog latin), Thursday, 15 May 2014 09:17 (nine years ago) link

Are we gannin down the pub or wot?

Mark G, Thursday, 15 May 2014 10:15 (nine years ago) link

jfc stfu with this

lex pretend, Thursday, 15 May 2014 10:16 (nine years ago) link

kmt

james lipton and his francs (darraghmac), Thursday, 15 May 2014 10:18 (nine years ago) link

Hang on, I've only just realised this is a Daily Telegraph article which tacitly endorses cocaine.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 15 May 2014 12:33 (nine years ago) link

John Niven is the worst of these cocks, there's this poisonous mix of casual racism and sub-Frankie Boyle shit whenever he's called out on it.

Matt DC, Thursday, 15 May 2014 13:07 (nine years ago) link

wallop! etc.

marcos, Thursday, 15 May 2014 13:12 (nine years ago) link

ReferEEE!

now I'm the grandfather (dog latin), Thursday, 15 May 2014 13:23 (nine years ago) link

'Avin it LARRRGE

now I'm the grandfather (dog latin), Thursday, 15 May 2014 13:25 (nine years ago) link

SHUT THE FUCK UP EVERYONE

lex pretend, Thursday, 15 May 2014 13:36 (nine years ago) link

fuckinell you're literally as bad as the cunt who wrote this

lex pretend, Thursday, 15 May 2014 13:37 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, shut up with the top bantz everyone.

now I'm the grandfather (dog latin), Thursday, 15 May 2014 13:43 (nine years ago) link

lol lex if you don't want to deal with people having some fun ripping on this loser why the FUCK did you click on this thread?

marcos, Thursday, 15 May 2014 13:56 (nine years ago) link

lex's intriguing ILX style strikes again

online hardman, Thursday, 15 May 2014 13:58 (nine years ago) link

i'm all for seeing everyone rip on him but this isn't that

lex pretend, Thursday, 15 May 2014 13:58 (nine years ago) link

IMITATION IS NOT SATIRE

lex pretend, Thursday, 15 May 2014 13:58 (nine years ago) link

He Wants to "deal with" etc.

Mark G, Thursday, 15 May 2014 13:59 (nine years ago) link

xpost in some cases it is.

now I'm the grandfather (dog latin), Thursday, 15 May 2014 14:07 (nine years ago) link

actually in quite a few cases, it is.

now I'm the grandfather (dog latin), Thursday, 15 May 2014 14:07 (nine years ago) link

in fact i'd like to see an example of satire which has no grounding in imitation what so ever.

now I'm the grandfather (dog latin), Thursday, 15 May 2014 14:08 (nine years ago) link

double bubble!

Prostitute Farm Online (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 15 May 2014 14:11 (nine years ago) link

lex in terms of people sarcastically talking like this guy ITT thread would it be fair you say that you are NOT, in fact, mad fer it, parklife etc?

dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 15 May 2014 14:14 (nine years ago) link

I'm gonna whack my ol' man right up 'is alley. Oi oi!

now I'm the grandfather (dog latin), Thursday, 15 May 2014 14:22 (nine years ago) link

pretending to hate the bants = classic m8

Prostitute Farm Online (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 15 May 2014 14:27 (nine years ago) link

Gertcha!

Prostitute Farm Online (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 15 May 2014 14:28 (nine years ago) link

Fackin love Chas n Dave, fackin legends

Prostitute Farm Online (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 15 May 2014 14:28 (nine years ago) link

i literally have no idea what the fuck you ppl are talking about

and

i'm mad fer it tbh

dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 15 May 2014 14:55 (nine years ago) link

i'm listening to sleaford mods now and i love it but i understand less than 50 percent of what this tosser is on about

dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 15 May 2014 14:56 (nine years ago) link

Cool it mat, we're only havin a laugh mate. It's just a laugh mate.

now I'm the grandfather (dog latin), Thursday, 15 May 2014 15:10 (nine years ago) link

Sleaford Mods are kind of the antithesis of this crap.

Matt DC, Thursday, 15 May 2014 15:34 (nine years ago) link

yes

now I'm the grandfather (dog latin), Thursday, 15 May 2014 15:37 (nine years ago) link

Earl Brutus, the ghosts at the Britpop feast

Angkor Waht (Neil S), Thursday, 15 May 2014 15:51 (nine years ago) link

Sleaford Mods are kind of the antithesis of this crap.

― Matt DC, Thursday, May 15, 2014 10:34 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh i know! they rule!

just they drop a lot of references and slang i don't know.

dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 15 May 2014 18:29 (nine years ago) link

is not understanding references and slang such a big deal for you? when i hear US slang in rap songs i get over it or perhaps learn something, rather than going OH LOL AMERICANS ARE SO WACKY AND WEIRD

lex pretend, Thursday, 15 May 2014 23:07 (nine years ago) link

no. it's not actually, lex, and i resent your use of "LOL" and all caps.

dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 15 May 2014 23:32 (nine years ago) link

I don't understand most lyrics tbf

now I'm the grandfather (dog latin), Friday, 16 May 2014 00:48 (nine years ago) link

fair dinkum

dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 16 May 2014 01:20 (nine years ago) link

American tech, Italian food, and Scandi design

Could be anyone in the world yes?

calstars, Friday, 16 May 2014 01:31 (nine years ago) link

dog latin appears to be auditioning for Republica on this thread

۩, Friday, 16 May 2014 23:27 (nine years ago) link

he seems to be ready to go!

Toni Braxton-Hicks (Turrican), Friday, 16 May 2014 23:38 (nine years ago) link

two years pass...

Michael Hogan ‏@michaelhogan 39m

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― Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln (nakhchivan), Thursday, May 1, 2014 6:45 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh, amazonaws (wins), Saturday, 25 June 2016 09:14 (seven years ago) link

trump is such a twatting prannet!

oh, amazonaws (wins), Saturday, 25 June 2016 09:15 (seven years ago) link

two months pass...

Michael Hogan ‏@michaelhogan 2h2 hours ago

Bought my usual Geordie comedy monthly but it's full of rent boys, coke and poppers. Turns out I picked up Vaz Comic by mistake

soref, Saturday, 10 September 2016 16:11 (seven years ago) link

more like Shitpop

you can't drowned a duck (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 September 2016 16:28 (seven years ago) link

\o/

mark s, Saturday, 10 September 2016 16:31 (seven years ago) link


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