OK, is this the worst piece of music writing ever?

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Posting that, though, it occurs to me that not only have I written similar posts on ILX before, but I think I've had exchanges about this very topic with DJP on ilx before. I guess I'm a broken record.

Mordy , Thursday, 3 October 2013 16:20 (ten years ago) link

next time I'm in the same city with any of y'all, I'm buying a round

smang culture (DJP), Thursday, 3 October 2013 16:59 (ten years ago) link

philly yo i think we're already fb friends. i'll take u to my favorite bar.

Mordy , Thursday, 3 October 2013 17:04 (ten years ago) link

nsbm tbf is pretty easy to ignore. You dont really come across it as its a very tiny scene who acts dont sell much but It is a bugger however when you hear a track you like thats been posted on ILM aka Nokturnal Mortum and it turns out its nsbm.

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 3 October 2013 17:28 (ten years ago) link

Oh cool this again

smangerz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 3 October 2013 18:04 (ten years ago) link

Oh cool you saying 'Oh cool this again' again

Pingu Unchained (dog latin), Thursday, 3 October 2013 19:26 (ten years ago) link

Sorry he mistook you for me DL. And there'll always be room for you on the Quietus if you ever get the time or the inclination to write for us.

Doran, Thursday, 3 October 2013 19:30 (ten years ago) link

Thanks Doran. I wasn't saying I don't write for Quietus as a big "fuck no", just a statement of fact at the moment. I didn't twig that he'd confused Dorian with Doran so I was just baffled.

Anyway, what do you have to say about misogyny in heavy metal you big hypocrite? j/k

Deafening silence (DL), Thursday, 3 October 2013 19:47 (ten years ago) link

What's wrong with being sexy? is my initial response.

I had a piece on dubstep submitted to me once by a very well respected scribe who claimed that any misogyny in dubstep and grime was caused solely by the influence of one scene DJ who used to be a metalhead and that it had to be "that whole Beavis and Butthead thing" that he'd brought over with him, like the shipbound rat who brought the black plague to Norway in 1349. So there you have it 'Bell Dem Slags' by The Newham Generals - obviously the fault of Manowar and/or Tankard.

Doran, Thursday, 3 October 2013 21:16 (ten years ago) link

"the black plague" being the "black death"... my true white supremacist black metal nature shining through unfortunately for a second there.

Doran, Thursday, 3 October 2013 21:18 (ten years ago) link

wait, Manowar are gay shurely?

lusty thoughts of big, strong, powerful hipsters (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 3 October 2013 21:25 (ten years ago) link

I believe they're very happy at what they do, yes.

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 3 October 2013 21:39 (ten years ago) link

All rock and roll is homosexual. Apart from Cold Chisel.

Doran, Thursday, 3 October 2013 21:40 (ten years ago) link

I had a piece on dubstep submitted to me once by a very well respected scribe who claimed that any misogyny in dubstep and grime was caused solely by the influence of one scene DJ who used to be a metalhead and that it had to be "that whole Beavis and Butthead thing"

Kevin Martin getting the blame?

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 3 October 2013 21:40 (ten years ago) link

*Everybody* knows Haim are terrible. And they’re Tories to boot.

What

polyphonic, Thursday, 3 October 2013 21:45 (ten years ago) link

Scuba? (xpost)

My god. Pure ideology. (ey), Thursday, 3 October 2013 21:49 (ten years ago) link

Apparently people are taking the fact that they posed with Cameron because they were booked on a show together after dedicating a fairly meanspirited song to him as deeply indicative of their politics.

The Reverend, Thursday, 3 October 2013 21:57 (ten years ago) link

XP: It wasn't Scuba but you're along the right kind of lines. I can't even remember the guy's name but he used to be in some Kerrang! style band for five minutes "back in the day".

Doran, Thursday, 3 October 2013 22:08 (ten years ago) link

for those not reading the Haim thread
http://www.collapseboard.com/everett-true/haim-an-open-letter-to-christopher-r-weingarten/

whiney has now replied

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 4 October 2013 23:42 (ten years ago) link

And you're the kind of girl I like / Because you're empty and I'm empty / And you can never quarantine the past..
And if I go there, I won't stay there / Because I'm sitting here too long

^^ the haim debate imho

Saul Goodberg (by Musket and Pup Tent) (s.clover), Sunday, 6 October 2013 06:38 (ten years ago) link

All rock and roll is homosexual. Apart from Cold Chisel.

m8, "when the war is over" is a bit of a poofta song

hipster racist (King Boy Pato), Monday, 7 October 2013 12:37 (ten years ago) link

also, while I'm here, just gonna point out that Everett True *chose* to live in Brisbane

this means he *chose* to live in an almost culture-less city because anything more would distract from furiously typing out pissweak troll blogs

hipster racist (King Boy Pato), Monday, 7 October 2013 12:44 (ten years ago) link

@jordansarge 8h
if you're a white hipster who denies miley cyrus it is because you have a superiority complex about your own appropriation

@jordansarge 8h
if you go to cool brooklyn dance parties you will see much sloppier racial appropriation than what miley cyrus has done

@jordansarge 8h
there is institutionalized racism in miley cyrus' visuals but at least as a pop star she is forced to reconcile with her decisions

Bitch Fantastic (DJP), Monday, 7 October 2013 12:50 (ten years ago) link

twitter was the worst thing to happen to music journalism since the internet

Defund Phil Collins (stevie), Monday, 7 October 2013 12:52 (ten years ago) link

"cool brooklyn dance parties"

Saul Goodberg (by Musket and Pup Tent) (s.clover), Monday, 7 October 2013 12:58 (ten years ago) link

but what if you're a white non hipster who doesnt like it?

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 7 October 2013 13:36 (ten years ago) link

i had an answer to that in the other thread

Bap & Ounge (Noodle Vague), Monday, 7 October 2013 13:37 (ten years ago) link

white tweeter

velko, Monday, 7 October 2013 15:21 (ten years ago) link

when did you stop tweeting you're white

Saul Goodberg (by Musket and Pup Tent) (s.clover), Monday, 7 October 2013 15:28 (ten years ago) link

twitter was the worst thing to happen to music journalism since the internet

― Defund Phil Collins (stevie), Monday, October 7, 2013 7:52 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yes

rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, 7 October 2013 15:37 (ten years ago) link

that was not music writing (or else i would have wrote something!)

J0rdan S., Monday, 7 October 2013 15:42 (ten years ago) link

Using "cool Brooklyn dance parties" as a counter-weight to your argument is gonna allow you to reach all kinds of places

REDACTED got your back (flamboyant goon tie included), Monday, 7 October 2013 16:51 (ten years ago) link

Cool Brooklyn Georgetown cocktail dance parties

Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 October 2013 16:54 (ten years ago) link

having lived in brooklyn for 8 months i can confirm that nothing here is cool

rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, 7 October 2013 18:37 (ten years ago) link

literally nothing

rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, 7 October 2013 18:37 (ten years ago) link

your Mexican food is cool

the weird old stationery and technical office supply store down by the fulton st. mall is pretty cool

pervilege as a meme (contenderizer), Monday, 7 October 2013 19:49 (ten years ago) link

white hipsters move to brooklyn, complain about white hipsters in brooklyn

The Reverend, Monday, 7 October 2013 20:15 (ten years ago) link

yup

J0rdan S., Monday, 7 October 2013 20:16 (ten years ago) link

the first of those tweets is maybe a bit sloppy but the last two seem otm to me?

flopson, Monday, 7 October 2013 20:19 (ten years ago) link

where brookyln at?

(a cool dance party)

lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 7 October 2013 20:23 (ten years ago) link

This sounds like the worst thing

maura, Monday, 7 October 2013 20:30 (ten years ago) link

i swear to god all this shit about riff raff and miley cyrus is just like going through that entire cycle of history all over again

rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, 7 October 2013 21:41 (ten years ago) link

the script is already written, but everyone under the age of 27 has cultural amnesia

rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, 7 October 2013 21:42 (ten years ago) link

besides the fact that jordan's argument paradoxically sets him falling exactly into the trap he decries (and honestly I thought he was smarter than that -- white people decrying white people doesn't become any better when you add a layer to it, no it gets even worse), I'm not sure how it's helpful to a) bring up an extreme example from almost ten years ago as if that's any sort of norm or excuses anything else (I mean, come on, you can't take issue with miley because tha pumpsta?) and more importantly, b) ignore people of color in those scenes?

The Reverend, Monday, 7 October 2013 21:51 (ten years ago) link

I mean, I'm sure if there are black people in Brooklyn, and that's a big if, none of them ever go to cool dance parties.

The Reverend, Monday, 7 October 2013 21:52 (ten years ago) link

I just posted a link! I didn't editorialize! It was more a "circle of life" type comment than anything else.

maura, Monday, 7 October 2013 22:08 (ten years ago) link

yeah jordan's argument is funny as an observation of the narc of sd required to be a hipster who loves rap / wears vaguely hip hop clothing & who really really hates miley cyrus

but as a defense of miley cyrus it doesnt work b/c godwin's law

rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, 7 October 2013 22:16 (ten years ago) link

jordan's argument works bc it's obv satirizing how identity issues in pop culture are always subordinate to taste + preference. appropriation is only a problem when it's aesthetically unappealing.

Mordy , Monday, 7 October 2013 22:19 (ten years ago) link

you cant separate aesthetics/taste from identity issues tho (although white ppl are more likely to pretend you can ime)

rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, 7 October 2013 22:22 (ten years ago) link


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