HAIM

confusing for Hiem

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYlfGOai310

refuse to believe this group werent named and pronounced after corey haim before some mortified label intern stumbled upon creatively bankrupt newish chillwave/post-AnCo bands whose names are just '80s ephemera

r1 playlist discussion is interesting, mdc makes a persuasive perhaps inarguable case for same as it ever was but when you're beaming a vibe into people's heads, which is what radio is, then smoke & mirrors shifts in tone actually do have conferring value. a few years ago the feeling was very much the moylesy you like this, we don't get it but w/e it's only music, now it's all rah rah in new music we trust yoof enthusiasm

you do also get little things tbf, 'aaliyah' didnt have to be c-listed for example

mdc otm re haim themselves, ithappens otm re the utterly pathetic and mindless "r&b" marketing

Pretty sure everything that isn't straight-out rock music or Mumford & Sons now has to marketed as "R&B-influenced" by law.

Corey Haim should be pronounced hi-yem too you know

i know i'm blowing some minds here

IT'S NOT PRONOUNCED HI-YEM, GAWDDDDD

has the new Dan Lissvik remix been posted anywhere? http://www.thelineofbestfit.com/new-music/blog/listen-haim-x-dan-lissvik-send-me-down-115804 p nice

i don't know but props to piscesx for anticipating their name change to all-caps

I can't let go of this absurd, meritocratic, utopian ideal - which never existed - of radio programmers hearing a really good catchy song and playlisting it without worrying about where it fits in. It's the poptimist Brigadoon.

― Deafening silence (DL), Friday, January 4, 2013 10:04 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i think if ILM will have made one important contribution to the world, it will prove to be the phrase "poptimist Brigadoon"

creatively bankrupt nJewish chillwave/post-AnCo bands whose names are just '80s ephemera

(correction)

also isn't it pronounced hy-em as in "l'chaim!"

also also, in re. dan's point about siblings harmonizing beautifully, exhibit A:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70NTMplUlfw

also chairlift is a good point of comparison but i feel caroline has some kind of art-school visionary thing going on that's absent from haim.

i'm relieved at the total absence of art-school visionariness going on w/HAIM, it's one of the things i like best about them

We have 6music on the office and both 'I Belong In Your Arms' and 'Don't Save Me' were both playlisted and consequently played like six times a day. The Haim song definitely made people prick up their ears here in a way the Chairlift song didn't.

I quite like 'I Belong In Your Arms' but it's one of those 'great pop songs' that's filtered through an 90s indie disco prism, and yeah the art-school thing, whereas the Haim song bypasses all of that.

I am totally onboard with this lot now by the way, I think it was hearing 'Slow Me Down' that did it.

That's a really good point - the old dichotomy of "perfect pop" vs actually popular pop. I love both so I sometimes have problems realising which is which.

guys this is fresh

https://soundcloud.com/haimtime/haim-send-me-down-dan-lissvik/s-c7OL8

Not mad about that remix, which reminds me too much of 80s Euro summer holiday disco hits for comfort. I kept expecting them to burst into La Dolce Vita.

that is pretty poppy for lissvik! love it.

Lissvik has definitely been out raving more of late, his Mungolian Jet Set remix is really upbeat as well.

i didn't mean to set up a competition b/t haim and chairlift, much less some kind of "perfect pop" vs. actual pop debate. there's room for both. caroline from chairlift is whip-smart in a way that codes, i think, as precocious and a bit arch and that persona/sensibility is something you can sense even in "i belong in your arms" and probably keeps it from being genuinely as opposed to semi-popular.

ah the old "whip-smart"

???

does that read as sexist or something?

would you prefer "smart as a whip"?

i mean i'd describe, i dunno, hal hartley the same way.

Is the Guardian worse than it used to be?

Don't Save Me feels like its coming from a similar place to Francis and the Lights, of whom I am a stan.

although emotionally more flat and less unhinged

more hinged?

I'm not sure I need much beyond Don't Save Me, but that new Lissvik mix is pretty cool imo.

Don't Save Me feels like its coming from a similar place to Francis and the Lights, of whom I am a stan.

― space phwoar (Hurting 2), Thursday, January 17, 2013 9:45 AM (40 minutes ago)

hurting i cant remember if ive ever seen a wdyll of you or not but whenever you post i picture you as a dude who looks like francis, albeit one w/ less dramatic hair

that's not a far fetched description of me

maybe slightly less dramatically svelte also

xp I referred to a man as whip-smart in a piece the other day. I've never thought of it as gendered in the way that "sassy" is.

I sort of do. cf "Sharp as a tack".

I basically only hear it used about women, and usually attractive women. I always detect a slight "you'll never guess, she's intelligent as well, I'm so proud of her!" in the term.

fit as a butcher's dog

I've never read any gender association into either "whip-smart" or "sharp as a tack", though the term "whip-smart" now always makes me immediately think of Liz Phair.

likewise

yup.

i just thought "whip-smart" was a cliché rather than a specifically gendered cliché

pre-Liz Phair examples of the phrase "whip smart" from lexis nexis:

1. Comic relief saves July cable lineup
St. Petersburg Times (Florida), July 4, 1989, Tuesday, City Edition, FLORIDIAN; Cable;, 375 words, Thomas B. Harrison
... director Ron Shelton. Whip-smart and funny, with a solid ...


2. Critics recommend 'Jones' for fun-seekers
Orange County Register (California), May 26, 1989 Friday, 647 words
... In his third adventure, whip-smart archeologist Indiana Joneshas to ...


3. A BLESSING IN REPRISE // 'Eleemosynary' explores familiar women's themes
St. Petersburg Times (Florida), May 26, 1989, Friday, City Edition, WEEKEND; Pg. 24, 1133 words, THOMAS B. HARRISON
... fear of intimacy. Artie's whip-smart daughter, Echo (actually ...


4. CONNECTICUT OPINION; Thank You, Mark Twain
The New York Times, April 30, 1989, Sunday, Late City Final Edition, Section 12CN; Page 30, Column 3; Connecticut Weekly Desk, 667 words, By Ed McNamara; Ed McNamara lives in Stamford.
... infallible memory of some whip-smart computer in the publisher's ...


5. All this sex can mean just one thing: it's sweeps time
The San Diego Union-Tribune, February 4, 1989 Saturday, ENTERTAINMENT; Pg. B-13, 959 words, GREG JOSEPH
... Starletta DuPois); Lena's whip-smart daughter Beneatha (Kim ...


6. 'Silent Night': a quiet baring of souls
St. Petersburg Times (Florida), October 19, 1988, Wednesday, City Edition, FLORIDIAN; Theater Review; Pg. 1D, THOMAS B. HARRISON
... Peter Joseph, as Katherine's whip-smart son. Director Sanders (To ...


7. 'Fourth Protocol' is first choice on cable
St. Petersburg Times (Florida), July 2, 1988, Saturday, City Edition, FLORIDIAN; ON CABLE; Pg. 3D, THOMAS B. HARRISON
... efficiency expert (Tracy) and the whip-smart researcher (Hepburn) he woos and ...


8. Perretti's; Win, place or just show, N.J. spot is good grazing
Crain's New York Business, October 27, 1986, RESTAURANT REVIEW; Pg. 48, 622 words, By BOB LAPE, SPECIAL TO CRAINS' NEW YORK BUSINESS
... 22), and Oscar, a whip-smart young captain, filets the ...


9. Nino's Grill; Bruno's upstairs annex triumphs with light Italian
Crain's New York Business, October 20, 1986, RESTAURANT REVIEW; Pg. 28, 634 words, By BOB LAPE, SPECIAL TO CRAINS' NEW YORK BUSINESS
... at Nino's Grill is the whip-smart young Ted Anderson ( ...


10. WHEN EMPIRES COLLIDE: Fierce battle threatened when the Reichmanns' expansion drive bumped into the Bronfmans
The Financial Post (Toronto, Canada), October 4, 1986, Saturday,, 2186 words, Peter Foster
... Jack Cockwell, a whip-smart South African-born ...


11. Slow Going in 'Beverly Hills'
The Washington Post, December 7, 1984, Friday, Final Edition, Weekend; Weekend at the Movies; Pg. 39, 330 words, Rita Kempley
... puts Foley, a whip-smart, Motor City Dirty ...


12. Comedy With Class; The Creative Spark Behind CBS' 'Kate & Allie'
The Washington Post, March 19, 1984, Monday, Final Edition, Style; TV Preview; C1, 1168 words, By Tom Shales
... for a classy, whip-smart sitcom, and she brings her special ...


13. The managers; a gallery of notable and quotable newsmaking executives.
Dun's Business Month, January 1, 1984, Pg. p113(2), 1355 words
... more than $300,000, whip-smart Vanderslice--who holds ...


14. The Duke's Downfall
Newsweek, October 2, 1978, UNITED STATES EDITION, NATIONAL AFFAIRS; Pg. 50, 1040 words, DON HOLT with PHYLLIS MALAMUD in Boston and bureau reports
... Massachusetts defeated a whip-smart, attractive and moderately liberal ...

any adjective applied to indiana jones has got to be a compliment

even if it is a pun

Kind of wish I hadn't watched that interview with them. I mostly like their songs, but find their personalities pretty annoying.

OK so

http://stereogum.com/1258291/haim-falling/mp3s/

Like it. (I also found them personally okay when watching a short documentary about them, so maybe they just get into some sort of annoying mode in some interviews.)

they are super charming imo, wkiw