HAIM

this idea that R1 daytime has some kind of unfulfilled potential as the place to spring totally unplayed, unknown bands on the wider public, breaking them "from scratch" is bizarre to me. has it ever worked like that? why would it? why should it? there are all sorts of minor leagues that new acts can get some attention in. R1 specialist shows, 6, uh... i mean people like to talk about the glory days of john peel, hey anybody could send in a tape and it might get played, but that was 10pm-midnight. today there's an entire franchise of BBC regional programming that filters those tapes up to six national shows that air them every week.

here's a Moyles show from September 2012 the first 7 tracks are 'his' show the rest is the Golden Hour.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01m348b

that's purely at random.

Wed 7th October 2009 - A List

Biffy Clyro - The Captain

Alexandra Burke featuring Flo Rida - Bad Boys

Chipmunk - Oopsy Daisy

Cobra Starship featuring Leighton Meester - Good Girls Go Bad

Cheryl Cole - Fight For This Love

Taio Cruz - Break Your Heart

Editors - Papillon

Green Day - East Jesus Nowhere

Jay-Z featuring Alicia Keys - Empire State Of Mind

Lostprophets - It’s Not The End Of The World But I Can See It From Here

Medina - You And I

Muse - Uprising

Paramore - Ignorance

The Saturdays - Forever Is Over

Jay Sean featuring Lil Wayne - Down

Jordin Sparks - S.O.S (Let The Music Play)

Tinchy Stryder - You’re Not Alone

The Temper Trap - Sweet Disposition

Robbie Williams - Bodies

i dunno whether daytime R1 could or should be anything other than what it is, i'm just saying that what it is right now, since as long as i can remember and probably in the foreseeable future, has been absolutely dire and god help me if i ever put myself through it again

guess you don't like "the hits", lex

at least not the ones aimed for a younger audience

it's okay, it happens to everyone

by the way it's too bad you weren't listening this week - the playlist has been banished since new year's day! normal services to resume, though

8th September 2010 - A List

Katy B - Katy On A Mission
Biffy Clyro - God and Satan
Danny Byrd - Ill Behaviour
Taio Cruz - Dynamite
Example - Last Ones Standing
Brandon Flowers - Crossfire
Alex Gaudino - I'm In Love (I Wanna Do It)
Ke$ha - Take It Off
Labrinth - Let The Sun Shine
Linkin Park - The Catalyst
McFly - Party Girl
Pendulum - The Island
Katy Perry - Teenage Dream
Mark Ronson and The Business Intl - The Bike Song
The Script - For The First Time
Tinie Tempah - Written In The Stars (feat. Eric Turner)
The Wombats - Tokyo (Vampires and Wolves)
The xx - Islands
You Me At Six - Stay With Me

I mean the balance looks pretty much the same to me.

I think the Moyles/Grimshaw transition is the main reason to be optimistic. Unlike Moyles he actually likes music.

This is probably true though - how much freedom do R1 Breakfast Show hosts get in playing personal faves these days? Never got the sense that Moyles was ever particularly interested in championing music of any kind, in the way that even someone like Chris Evans was (NB the music he was championing was mostly terrible but hey).

how much freedom do R1 Breakfast Show hosts get in playing personal faves these days?

very little, but they and their producers do have a choice in how MUCH music to play vs just gabbing around - grimshaw currently plays almost twice the number of tracks that moyles did - and they have a choice in what they talk about (could be about reality shows, could be about music), and they have a choice about what guests to book (i.e. reality show contestants vs musicians)

those are the only two categories of subject matter in the entire world, by the way, i'm pretty sure

xp Of course it's not exactly a revolution but the pendulum swings back and forth, especially when there are big staff changes. A while back, possibly in an understandable spirit of post-landfill detox, Everything Everything or their equivalent wouldn't have been on the A-list, and Nick Grimshaw is clearly a pro-new music choice. It seems daft to pretend that it's the same as it ever was - every sector of the music industry goes through different phases.

Tracer, if you think I'm saying daytime Radio 1 should be breaking completely unknown bands then sorry, I haven't explained myself very clearly. Obviously the specialist shows are the conduit.

(NB the music he was championing was mostly terrible but hey)

Well you can say what you want but it won't change my mind...

haha dorian i think i got so worked up that i missed that part where you admitted that idea was the poptimist brigadoon

surprised to find that its pronounced 'Hyem' and not 'Hame' courtesy of this interview

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKHwDHaVv9w

it's "hime"

although on front row yesterday the presenter did repeatedly say it as "HI-yem" and was audibly uncomfortable every time she did

confusing for Hiem

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYlfGOai310

refuse to believe this group werent named and pronounced after corey haim before some mortified label intern stumbled upon creatively bankrupt newish chillwave/post-AnCo bands whose names are just '80s ephemera

r1 playlist discussion is interesting, mdc makes a persuasive perhaps inarguable case for same as it ever was but when you're beaming a vibe into people's heads, which is what radio is, then smoke & mirrors shifts in tone actually do have conferring value. a few years ago the feeling was very much the moylesy you like this, we don't get it but w/e it's only music, now it's all rah rah in new music we trust yoof enthusiasm

you do also get little things tbf, 'aaliyah' didnt have to be c-listed for example

mdc otm re haim themselves, ithappens otm re the utterly pathetic and mindless "r&b" marketing

Pretty sure everything that isn't straight-out rock music or Mumford & Sons now has to marketed as "R&B-influenced" by law.

Corey Haim should be pronounced hi-yem too you know

i know i'm blowing some minds here

IT'S NOT PRONOUNCED HI-YEM, GAWDDDDD

has the new Dan Lissvik remix been posted anywhere? http://www.thelineofbestfit.com/new-music/blog/listen-haim-x-dan-lissvik-send-me-down-115804 p nice

i don't know but props to piscesx for anticipating their name change to all-caps

I can't let go of this absurd, meritocratic, utopian ideal - which never existed - of radio programmers hearing a really good catchy song and playlisting it without worrying about where it fits in. It's the poptimist Brigadoon.

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i think if ILM will have made one important contribution to the world, it will prove to be the phrase "poptimist Brigadoon"

creatively bankrupt nJewish chillwave/post-AnCo bands whose names are just '80s ephemera

(correction)

also isn't it pronounced hy-em as in "l'chaim!"

also also, in re. dan's point about siblings harmonizing beautifully, exhibit A:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70NTMplUlfw

also chairlift is a good point of comparison but i feel caroline has some kind of art-school visionary thing going on that's absent from haim.

i'm relieved at the total absence of art-school visionariness going on w/HAIM, it's one of the things i like best about them

We have 6music on the office and both 'I Belong In Your Arms' and 'Don't Save Me' were both playlisted and consequently played like six times a day. The Haim song definitely made people prick up their ears here in a way the Chairlift song didn't.

I quite like 'I Belong In Your Arms' but it's one of those 'great pop songs' that's filtered through an 90s indie disco prism, and yeah the art-school thing, whereas the Haim song bypasses all of that.

I am totally onboard with this lot now by the way, I think it was hearing 'Slow Me Down' that did it.

That's a really good point - the old dichotomy of "perfect pop" vs actually popular pop. I love both so I sometimes have problems realising which is which.

guys this is fresh

https://soundcloud.com/haimtime/haim-send-me-down-dan-lissvik/s-c7OL8

Not mad about that remix, which reminds me too much of 80s Euro summer holiday disco hits for comfort. I kept expecting them to burst into La Dolce Vita.

that is pretty poppy for lissvik! love it.

Lissvik has definitely been out raving more of late, his Mungolian Jet Set remix is really upbeat as well.

i didn't mean to set up a competition b/t haim and chairlift, much less some kind of "perfect pop" vs. actual pop debate. there's room for both. caroline from chairlift is whip-smart in a way that codes, i think, as precocious and a bit arch and that persona/sensibility is something you can sense even in "i belong in your arms" and probably keeps it from being genuinely as opposed to semi-popular.

ah the old "whip-smart"

???

does that read as sexist or something?

would you prefer "smart as a whip"?

i mean i'd describe, i dunno, hal hartley the same way.

Is the Guardian worse than it used to be?

Don't Save Me feels like its coming from a similar place to Francis and the Lights, of whom I am a stan.

although emotionally more flat and less unhinged

more hinged?

I'm not sure I need much beyond Don't Save Me, but that new Lissvik mix is pretty cool imo.