I thought the point of that discog link wasn't the number of appearances but who Basic Channel actually were
― THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 16:22 (1 year ago) Permalink
actually IIRC air liquide / rising high did have a big impact on german techno, esp in terms of germans adopting breakbeats and giving rise to stuff like khan and walker, etc
also i realize things are different in finland and america but over there is 15 the same as 30?
― the late great, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 16:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
also tuomas yr question was about "back then"
"back then" emmanuel top was getting 5/5 reviews in mixmag
but here's the thing: those basic channel appearances are much higher profile than those emmanuel top appearances
― the late great, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 16:24 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah I was gonna say Air Liquide was huge at the time IIRC but got lazy
― THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 16:26 (1 year ago) Permalink
No idea what anyone is on about or what that list of random artists at the top is all about but Basic Channel is the answer
― coal, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 16:27 (1 year ago) Permalink
emmanuel top *was* high-profile then, for example it was kinda the centrepiece of one of the chem brothers big mixes
― the late great, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 16:28 (1 year ago) Permalink
Haha, you realize Walker is one half of Air Liquide?
I count 14 mix appearance for Maurizio in the 1990s (plus 3 for Basic Channel). Did I miscount?
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 16:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
Who else was getting remixes like this from UR?
― elan, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 16:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
oh duh, walker was in liquid, you're totally right. anyway, they were a big influence on that
xpost you didn't miscount, i think you just didn't count stuff like phylyps and rhythm & sound, they had a ton of aliases, right?
― the late great, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 16:55 (1 year ago) Permalink
tuomas have you ever analyzed your overweening desire to always be right?
― tanuki, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 17:28 (1 year ago) Permalink
speaking of maurizio ploy remixes,
though i am tempted by MAW, my vote has to go the Orb.
― dsb, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 17:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
Basic Channel belongs with the knob twiddlers, but clearly is the most important of these. I voted Lamb for sentimental reasons.
― Sanpaku, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 19:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
still not choosing between Lamb and Moloko (but if pressed, would pick Lamb)
― God, Music and Romeo and Juliet (DJP), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 19:44 (1 year ago) Permalink
gotta say dubby minimal is sounding kind of boring to me these days
― Chris S, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 19:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
4 Hero
― Jessie Fer Ark (Mobbed Up Ping Pong Psychos), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 20:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
I just wanted to say, I'm not denying Basic Channel were influential from the turn of the millennium onwards, when the German minimal techno scene became popular, it's just that I don't remember them being very infuential before that. In my recollection, the minimal scene in the 90s was less about dubby, "deep" tracks and more about harsh, dry tunes, like Emmanuel Top or Richie Hawtin or Panasonic, or German Schranz, or what was known as "monotrack" here in Finland. But of course it might've been different elsewhere in the world.
― Tuomas, Thursday, 5 April 2012 06:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
no pre-95 it was exactly as you describe but it's tricky because one bleeds into the other when you look at people like hawtin and dan bell
― the late great, Thursday, 5 April 2012 07:10 (1 year ago) Permalink
or baby ford or force inc etc etc
― the late great, Thursday, 5 April 2012 07:11 (1 year ago) Permalink
tuomas reads very well in eeyore voice
― preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Thursday, 5 April 2012 07:27 (1 year ago) Permalink
Yeah, but that was the exact reason I asked whether the Basic Channel tracks were influential when they originally came out, since that was in the early 90s.
― Tuomas, Thursday, 5 April 2012 07:35 (1 year ago) Permalink
My introduction to Basic Channel, Chain Reaction, Maurizio etc. was with their feature in The Wire which I think was Aug '96. It was at that point I saw them as superior in terms of sound design to a lot of German and European techno that preceded that time. They release the iconic metal boxed CDs around that time also I think. I remember people who I admired like Carl Craig were bigging them up in interviews. This was obviously a few years after they had released the first 12"s.
― mmmm, Thursday, 5 April 2012 12:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Sunday, 8 April 2012 00:01 (1 year ago) Permalink
the very first promo pile that arrived @ ireallylovemusic hq happened to be the back catalogue of eat static.while the odd track was fun for 10 minutes, have to admit i never got to the end of an album.same goes for the secret knowledge album to be honest .. /
my vote may be boring, but it has to be the orb.
― mark e, Sunday, 8 April 2012 00:13 (1 year ago) Permalink
Lamb without any hesitation.
― EZ Snappin, Sunday, 8 April 2012 03:12 (1 year ago) Permalink
basic channel v. lfo v. mouse on mars for me
mouse on mars fell off pretty hard, but god, i love their glam/instrumentals period so much.
basic channel 'radiance' also extremely beautiful.
all the lfo lps are quite good too. even have a lot of love for 'sheath'.
tough call.
― (⊙_⊙?) (Alan N), Sunday, 8 April 2012 05:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
Where's 2 Bad Mice?
― gawagai, Sunday, 8 April 2012 15:19 (1 year ago) Permalink
Whether to vote Burger/Ink for one perfect album or Mouse on Mars for at least five near-perfect ones...
― instant coffee happening between us (a passing spacecadet), Sunday, 8 April 2012 20:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
Alter EgoBasic ChannelBurger/InkMasters At WorkMouse On MarsShut Up & Dance
I think I'll go for Shut Up & Dance... never fails to get me going...
― mmmm, Sunday, 8 April 2012 20:19 (1 year ago) Permalink
Burger/Ink are restyled as Mohn with a new album out very soon..!!
― mmmm, Sunday, 8 April 2012 20:20 (1 year ago) Permalink
4hero, for Parallel Universe alone.
― ablaeser, Sunday, 8 April 2012 23:16 (1 year ago) Permalink
Finally got around to voting, decided on MAW just shading Basic Channel and Drexciya.
― Chewshabadoo, Sunday, 8 April 2012 23:20 (1 year ago) Permalink
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Monday, 9 April 2012 00:01 (1 year ago) Permalink
photo finish.
― Boo-Yaa Too Rough International Boo-Yaa Empire (Merdeyeux), Monday, 9 April 2012 00:07 (1 year ago) Permalink
LOLLLL
― the late great, Monday, 9 April 2012 02:22 (1 year ago) Permalink
basic channel records were massive on the underground when they came out, those 12"s had a huge mystique iirc in terms of sound design and even the pressings themselves. dave clarke would routinely award them five dancing men in his Mixmag Update reviews.
― second only to popcorn (or something), Monday, 9 April 2012 04:01 (1 year ago) Permalink
i would have voted for MAW tho, tbh.
"The slammer" ices the rest of this boring egghead shit
― neutral sequence for flute (blank), Monday, 9 April 2012 04:15 (1 year ago) Permalink
I thought of including them, but apparently they had three members, despite the name.
Interesting that Moloko got only one vote, I thought they might win. I guess people don't listen tho them that much anymore, especially since Roisin Murphy has had such a strong solo career?
― Tuomas, Monday, 9 April 2012 09:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
i like Moloko fine but vote for them over BC or Drexciya??? fucking mentalism
― red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Monday, 9 April 2012 09:09 (1 year ago) Permalink
Non, non, non, non-non-non, knob!Non non, non-non-non, knob!Du-o...
― beachville, Monday, 9 April 2012 13:52 (1 year ago) Permalink
Best 90 electronic music duo: THE FINAL BATTLE
― Tuomas, Monday, 9 April 2012 17:51 (1 year ago) Permalink