i think miranda lambert might be the one whose voice jjusten hates :(
― horseshoe, Thursday, 2 February 2012 16:57 (twelve years ago) link
Jim reeves is popular in nigeria
― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 2 February 2012 16:58 (twelve years ago) link
i don't think i am an actual metalhead either, but i don't know where i fit in ever
imo:lana - dislike, strongpistol annies - dislike, with caveatsgucci gucci - love in moderationmarty robbins - love immoderately
make of that what you will
NKOTB was really popular in Colombia in the mid 90s.
― La Lechera, Thursday, 2 February 2012 16:59 (twelve years ago) link
Well, maybe not "really popular" but I knew a few people who genuinely thought they were good. New Kids.
I like "Gunpowder & Lead" more than any Pistol Annies song I've heard.
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:00 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, jim reeves was huge in jamaica too. lots of great jim reeves reggae covers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeNzhpX2vGI
― scott seward, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:01 (twelve years ago) link
When I was on Grand Cayman, it seemed like every other song on the radio was Kenny Rogers. And "Members Only" by Bobby Bland. It was not what I was expecting at all.
― Hawaiian mime montage (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:12 (twelve years ago) link
ok i just listened to gunpowder and lead and now i am wondering why they watered this lady down so much on the pistol annies album.
― Thu'um gang (jjjusten), Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:19 (twelve years ago) link
well she was a willing participant! i think they were going for a specific sound for the personae they were presentin on the pistol annies album.
― horseshoe, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:20 (twelve years ago) link
the title of this thread reminds me of this:
http://youtu.be/uLAJ0v_5THQ
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:21 (twelve years ago) link
oh wait is this pistol annies some sorta country concept album because ugh then
― Thu'um gang (jjjusten), Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:22 (twelve years ago) link
idk I was under the impression that Miranda wanted to do a country girl-group?
― Drugs A. Money, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:23 (twelve years ago) link
Longtime friends, Monroe, Miranda Lambert and newcomer Angaleena Presley debuted their trio girl band Pistol Annies, with their song "Hell on Heels," on April 22, 2011 on CBS' airing of ACM Girls Night Out. The trio surprised the audience in place of Miranda singing with now husband Blake Shelton. The girls, who all met through working in the industry, have dubbed nicknames for themselves via their band name. Lambert serves as "Lonestar Annie," Monroe "Hippie Annie," and Angaleena as "Holler Annie," as she is from the hills of Kentucky. Per Lambert, whether or not the Annies would release an album will "be up to the fans." The single "Hell on Heels" was released for purchase via the Pistol Annies' website on June 12, 2011. The Pistol Annies' album Hell on Heels was released on August 23, 2011.
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:24 (twelve years ago) link
Lonestar AnnieHippie AnnieHoller Annie
^^^ poll
Hippie Annie all the way
― Drugs A. Money, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:25 (twelve years ago) link
None of these Annies
― La Lechera, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:25 (twelve years ago) link
which yeah makes some sense because country stepford wives is pretty much my exact reaction, so if you are saying theres sort of an intent behind the sorta plasticated neutered vocals and the slogging tempos then huh. i mean i still dont like it but if its intentional then i think it worked i guess? thats weird tho.
xpost oh i guess not? well then sorry peeps this album just sucks
― Thu'um gang (jjjusten), Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:26 (twelve years ago) link
that was all wrt concept album which is apparently not true but idk
― Thu'um gang (jjjusten), Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:27 (twelve years ago) link
haha i don't read the personae as stepford wives!
― horseshoe, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:27 (twelve years ago) link
I mean, there are three female stereotypes there and I am not identifying with any of them whatsoever. That makes me kinda sad tbh.
― La Lechera, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:27 (twelve years ago) link
Little Annie Fanny
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:30 (twelve years ago) link
Manny Annie
― La Lechera, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:31 (twelve years ago) link
Grannie Annie
Polk Salad Annie
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:31 (twelve years ago) link
oh horshoe i dont know anything abt the intended personae i am just talking abt the "flatness" of the vocal performances.
also shit like this "Per Lambert, whether or not the Annies would release an album will "be up to the fans." drives me crazy because its such blatant pr bullshit
― Thu'um gang (jjjusten), Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:32 (twelve years ago) link
i don't know that i identify with most artists i listen to tbh. it's not really something i expect to happen. i feel like the album explores some narratives about femininity and sometimes defiantly picks up and champions pieces of them ("hell on heels") and sometimes renders the incredibly sadness of falling short ("beige") and is sometimes defiant about being regarded as a failure as a "lady" ("bad example.") the experiences rendered on the album are pretty far from my own (though i agree with lex that it's zeitgeisty about the recession. i think that's why "housewife's prayer" means the most to me) but they are interesting/moving. to me.
― horseshoe, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:33 (twelve years ago) link
a lot of the pr surrounding the album is hard to take, yes.
i am kind of a miranda lambert stan, i guess.
― horseshoe, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:34 (twelve years ago) link
http://media.ideaanddesignworks.com/idw/covers/little_orphan_annie/LOA1cvr400.jpg
― Drugs A. Money, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:34 (twelve years ago) link
about femininity and class, i should say
hs - I don't usually identify at all, but I am not usually courted this actively either, ie the various "Annies"
― La Lechera, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:34 (twelve years ago) link
also: as I said, Pistol Annies were p much shut out from the country radio station that I was exposed to--I learned about it from ILM--so I was blissfully ignorant of most of the PR bullshit
― Drugs A. Money, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:35 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i mean the patter about the kinds of annies they are didn't really influence my reception of the album. when i talk about the personae i mean as i understand them from the lyrics, essentially.
― horseshoe, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:36 (twelve years ago) link
i wish we got ANY PR about the album in the UK
stuff they've said about it feeds into something i've long kinda thought about how in girl groups, women feel able to express various sentiments that they don't necessarily feel able to express in their solo careers: sentiments that can be quite hardline or unsympathetic or raw or exclusionary of men. destiny's child vs beyoncé. electrik red.
― first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:36 (twelve years ago) link
Sad but not surprised at people taking swipes at whole genres (e.g "gloopy" country music, whatever that means).
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:37 (twelve years ago) link
like i said i think that miranda lambert song is pretty good, im just trying to sort out what they (whthr thats her or the band or the producer or whatever) decided to do to her vocal and why. i am not nearly as crazy abt the songs/songwriting either but that can be hard on first/second listen or whatever, but i think whoever was talking abt production upthread was dead on, theres something terribly processed and empty sounding going on with the vocal tracks here.
my comment abt the pr thing has nothing to do with what i think of the album btw, that line just was obnoxious enough i had to react
― Thu'um gang (jjjusten), Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:38 (twelve years ago) link
i do understand why you find it offputting, Amanda. some of the narratives of femininity they pick at magpie-like are offputting (mostly in "hell on heels," i think) but i think that's kind of what the album is about, dramatizing the limiting nature of those narratives and the attempt to willfully wrest something from them.
― horseshoe, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:38 (twelve years ago) link
people been doing it to country and metal for years.on ILM its indie it happens to
xps
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:38 (twelve years ago) link
Alfred - nobody said "gloopy" in this thread before you did.
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:39 (twelve years ago) link
george started this thread lets see what non metal fans say about metal
Poptimists get into ...METAL?!
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:40 (twelve years ago) link
that's a good point about girl groups, lex. maybe the performance of femininity is automatically more foregrounded with them?
― horseshoe, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:40 (twelve years ago) link
This was my #1 record of the year. I won't go into another spirited defense of the thing, as I've done it in several other forums and newspapers; but what grabbed me was how each woman carves a space for herself in the songs, but is generous enough to ask for sisterly support from the other two, which is an apt extra-diagetic metaphor of what happens in the songs themselves: women in mid-sized towns married to men who see them as accessories, women who are accustomed to seeing themselves as accessories, finding succor in booze, pills, and dreaming.
It's a minor record (a bit like Wilburys meets Trio) but no record last year thrilled me so much.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:41 (twelve years ago) link
I will grant that this sounds better than the rest of the glop that passes for country music (if those awful spotify ads are to be believed?!)I will also grant that this probably resonates pretty well. The lyrics are real, and surprisingly frank. That's good.
― La Lechera, Thursday, February 2, 2012 11:18 AM
La Lechera, the reason you don't identify with any of the Annies is that they need you to join their band. You are the Missing Annie. You're from Chicago right, could you be Prairie Fire Annie or something?
― beachville, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:42 (twelve years ago) link
pretty sure thats not an indictment of country per se alfred
― Thu'um gang (jjjusten), Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:43 (twelve years ago) link
Quite the opposite – they don't want to BECOME stepford wives.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:43 (twelve years ago) link
sorry alfred .Searched for gloop not glop.
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:44 (twelve years ago) link
"glop" != "gloop", fyi
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:44 (twelve years ago) link
yeah yeah I know – somewhere in the empyrean there's this gorgeous thing called COUNTRY that was once awesome but nowadays there ain't no more Willies and Hags. I get it.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:44 (twelve years ago) link
ha I've grown to hate lots and lots of country music in the last year btw. I tend to agree with LL more than disagree
― Drugs A. Money, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:45 (twelve years ago) link