gotta say, i'm surprised the manics one is getting so much mileage, but then i'm not a huge huge fan.
i'm always surprised when people say ilm is overly indie-centric (whatever that means, uh-oh close that can'o worms) - i hear more people complaining about indie on here than actually discussing it.
― the Sandalled Vandal (dog latin), Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:30 (twelve years ago) link
that's how you know it's indie-centric
― da croupier, Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:30 (twelve years ago) link
Well, there you go, the intelligensia vote, the cognoscentii watch.
I have no idea if that makes sense or not.
― Mark G, Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:30 (twelve years ago) link
gotta say, i'm surprised the manics one is getting so much mileage,
I'm not.
― Mark G, Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:31 (twelve years ago) link
Thing is, there are artists I'd want to *watch* a top 50 of, so I could find out more.
Yeah me too, and I think that song by song discussions for some of those artists could be really interesting.
― cloaca flocka flame (NickB), Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:31 (twelve years ago) link
lex check yr fb, i sent you the hiphop poll winners
haha i kind of meant that i wanted to continue happily assuming shawnna won!
― the smoke cloud of pure hatred (lex pretend), Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:31 (twelve years ago) link
hey before the flood can we make a rule that only one of these can go on at once
Consign x1000. I don't really care as long as ILM isn't suddenly full of loads of these things, even if polling every Oasis song or whatever is k-lame.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:31 (twelve years ago) link
In fact I might actually enforce this.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:32 (twelve years ago) link
Geir didn't send a list but he totally should have! he might've helped Pac place more stuff
― Mr. John Scatman (some dude), Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:33 (twelve years ago) link
xp to Lex: LOL that's why I asked first!
― best way to stop identity theft is bad credit (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:33 (twelve years ago) link
yeah - but not canon artists like prince or wu-tang clan (two examples of acts i basically love but don't have anywhere near the knowledge of to vote on). cuz you can get recommendations of canon artists anywhere, you know? probably right here, if you look at past threads on those artists.
― the smoke cloud of pure hatred (lex pretend), Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:33 (twelve years ago) link
everyone should be able to create whatever the hell poll they want, but if they all do it at once, it's gonna be a 'thing'
keep a strict time-limit and make a list of volunteers
― iatee, Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:33 (twelve years ago) link
The Pavement poll that ended yesterday was a glorious run-down of tracks, a whole band's career, people going back in time not just returning to the music but also life. Presented in a great way by Johnny Fever, unpredictable outcome, fun was had by all. If you don't like Pavement that's tough then, sorry it makes you depressed seeing it top the 'new answers' list. But that poll and it's countdown really has been an ILM highlight for me, with a great turn-out and participation too. What more could you want?― ...wow! (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, June 16, 2011 3:28 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark
― ...wow! (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, June 16, 2011 3:28 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark
qft
― the Sandalled Vandal (dog latin), Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:33 (twelve years ago) link
well I took part in the hip-hop, blur, and pavement polls cos I'm really into all three. The hiphop def lead me to hearing some great stuff that I had blanked on (black moon, camp lo, smoothe da hustler) and the blur and pavement ones kinda gave me good vibes. Out of the list at the top The Cure is the one that I'd find hardest but best 'qualified' to take part in and the Prince one is the one that would be most helpful in identifying which stuff I should get acquainted with given that I haven't been paying attention to his stuff for a decade.
― pandemic, Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:34 (twelve years ago) link
Matt DC that would be awesome
― Mr. John Scatman (some dude), Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:34 (twelve years ago) link
this poll is well on its way to accruing 100 new answers before the hour's over; go figure this would turn into a clusterfuck
― best way to stop identity theft is bad credit (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:34 (twelve years ago) link
agree it should be a "one at a a time" thing, if it is a thing.
― the Sandalled Vandal (dog latin), Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:35 (twelve years ago) link
my vague metric for these things is "if this artist has a peak period of 3 or fewer albums that will dominate the top 20 songs then it's not really worth doing," which is totally the case for Pavement
― Mr. John Scatman (some dude), Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:35 (twelve years ago) link
I think 2 at a time wouldn't be too many.
― Mr. Patrick Batman (WmC), Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:36 (twelve years ago) link
I guess I could just go read my Aphex Twin: Pick Only 3 and put it into a spreadsheet to tabulate the most favoured tracks.
But I suppose anyone could do that with any POX thread and have the same fun.
― Karen D. Tregaskin, Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:36 (twelve years ago) link
― the Sandalled Vandal (dog latin), donderdag 16 juni 2011 16:35 (18 seconds ago) Bookmark
An 'ILM Poll Registration and Reservation Bureau'-thread could deal with that, yes
― ...wow! (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:36 (twelve years ago) link
when that volunteer list is made, I'll do beach boys. (I don't have to go first.)
― iatee, Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:37 (twelve years ago) link
Seems to me like there's a level of commitment required for one of these polls that I don't possess. I miss POXes!
― Letsby Avenue (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:38 (twelve years ago) link
I enjoyed the pavement poll even though I didn't participate (mostly because I felt there was too much material I was unfamiliar with). it got me to listen to wowee zowee, which I had owned for several years but never really gave enough of a chance.
I wish there were polls like this for other bands I'm not overly familiar with, if only to incite me to dig deeper into their catalog.
― peter in montreal, Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:38 (twelve years ago) link
i completely support vigorous unrelenting enforcement of 1 at a time but can we wait until after the MC Tunes results thread?
― aka best bum of the o_O's (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:39 (twelve years ago) link
^ was gonna say
― cloaca flocka flame (NickB), Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:40 (twelve years ago) link
I think one at a time, and one nominations thread running at a time. Otherwise people will just go mad for polling ever-more niche interest bands in this fashion and clogging up New Answers. Very reticent to fully take the breaks off the nerdy listmaking juggernaut.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:40 (twelve years ago) link
LBI that's fair enough re the success of the Pavement poll. It's just the combination of numerous polls (not really interested in big ILM polls anymore) and focus on these kinds of bands irking me.
― blueski, Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:41 (twelve years ago) link
I actually really like the Poll Reservation & Registration Thread idea
― best way to stop identity theft is bad credit (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:42 (twelve years ago) link
You don't need a nominations thread for a single band, though, do you? It's pretty obvious what's in their catalogue and not.
― Karen D. Tregaskin, Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:42 (twelve years ago) link
to fully take the breaks off the nerdy listmaking juggernaut
board description etc
― Mr. John Scatman (some dude), Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:42 (twelve years ago) link
Okay but put me down for a Nolan Sisters poll next cos I wanna break up the patriarchy a bit.
― aka best bum of the o_O's (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:42 (twelve years ago) link
Not to beat a dead horse here, but I was really thrilled with that Pavement results thread. Tons of chatter and excitement, but the results weren't in the least predictable! Also, surprising, virtually no bitching! Anyway, if all the poll results threads could be that much fun to read, I'd love to see a lot more.
― the fey bloggers are onto the zagat tweets (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:44 (twelve years ago) link
Sorry, Karen D, I forgot that's not how the Blur thing ran.
― Mark G, Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:45 (twelve years ago) link
i have a decent familiarity with Pavement's catalog (heard all the proper albums before i realized i dislike them more often than i like them) and the results of that poll didn't look at all unpredictable to me tbh.
― Mr. John Scatman (some dude), Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:47 (twelve years ago) link
"one at a time" partisans, can we at least agree that once the reveal starts for X, the voting can start for Y?
― Mr. Patrick Batman (WmC), Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:49 (twelve years ago) link
Suggested format:
MC HAMMER Tracks Poll (Next up: The Cranberries)
― Mark G, Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:49 (twelve years ago) link
lol
― Mr. John Scatman (some dude), Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:49 (twelve years ago) link
now i want to make a "Zombie" vs. "2 Legit 2 Quit" thread
― Mr. John Scatman (some dude), Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:50 (twelve years ago) link
2 Legit all the way
― best way to stop identity theft is bad credit (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:56 (twelve years ago) link
Puuuuuullllllllllppppppp
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:57 (twelve years ago) link
i love Pulp but any poll would that MOST predictable results ever it's that one
― Mr. John Scatman (some dude), Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:58 (twelve years ago) link
but if any poll would have the most etc.
― Mr. John Scatman (some dude), Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:59 (twelve years ago) link
Just because "Summer Babe" won and "Gold Soundz" placed high, didn't mean the rest of the poll was predictable. There were lots of non-album tracks and rarities, very cool to see which ones were the most loved.
― the fey bloggers are onto the zagat tweets (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:59 (twelve years ago) link
I voted in the Blur poll, didn't in the Pavement poll and won't vote in the Manics. However even though I'm not a Pavement fan the enthusiasm and debate made it an interesting read. I don't know why some dude's so worked up about them, it's not as if they're hard to ignore. Matt DC's one at a time option seems a good compromise.
I agree the choices so far have been too indiecentric but those bands will soon be worked through and other bands/producers will get their chance to shine.
ps I bags the Pet Shop Boys poll.
― Cluster the boots (Billy Dods), Thursday, 16 June 2011 15:01 (twelve years ago) link
I guess I'm not sure what the argument is here really. If people want to do a poll, so what? Just skip the ones you don't care about, tbh.
― the fey bloggers are onto the zagat tweets (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 16 June 2011 15:02 (twelve years ago) link
One-at-a-time is important I feel.
to take part in this kind of exhaustive poll, you really need to know the ins and outs of an act's catalogue pretty well
No! You just have to take part! Once enough people join in, the crowdsourcing element means any nonsense gets ironed out. I didn't do the Pavement one because I couldn't fill a ballot, but I did do the hiphop one despite lack of knowledge - it was sad to see all a hoy hoy's efforts going to waste for a while because people weren't stepping up.
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 16 June 2011 15:02 (twelve years ago) link
― the fey bloggers are onto the zagat tweets (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, June 16, 2011 10:59 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark
eh most the b-sides i haven't heard, i'd seen the titles enough to know they were gonna do well
― Mr. John Scatman (some dude), Thursday, 16 June 2011 15:04 (twelve years ago) link
I think the point here is that the winner is never the most interesting part of these polls; it's watching the roll-out and debating the songs as they appear.
― anarcho-misogynist puppies (DJP), Thursday, 16 June 2011 15:04 (twelve years ago) link
^^^^ otm qft omg itt
― the fey bloggers are onto the zagat tweets (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 16 June 2011 15:05 (twelve years ago) link