Best Van Morrison Song from Astral Weeks thru Saint Dominic's Preview

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i also downloaded from somewhere or other a great four disc set of outtakes, studio rarities etc called 'the real philosopher's stone' - hunt that out, too

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 6 January 2011 22:35 (thirteen years ago) link

yeahhh, that's got the moondance demos on there, which are pretty essential. y'know that philosopher's stone legit release has some great stuff on it too.

tylerw, Thursday, 6 January 2011 22:37 (thirteen years ago) link

people that just go for astral and moondance are definitely missing out on a LOT of his best. I'd say nearly everything up to 1980 is at least great with a lot of the stuff on records like Veedon and Highway being incredible.

reallysmoothmusic (Jamie_ATP), Thursday, 6 January 2011 22:49 (thirteen years ago) link

into the music has some great stuff on it. i was just laughing with my brother about van naming a record "a period of transition" -- like there may as well be a sticker on it saying "you probably won't like this record."

tylerw, Thursday, 6 January 2011 22:52 (thirteen years ago) link

ITM is basically one long, beautiful reverie in its last fifteen minutes; and "Full Force Gale" is a great single.

Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 January 2011 22:55 (thirteen years ago) link

According to critics and a bunch of fans i've spoken to, Hard Nose the Highway is meant to be one of his records to avoid. But it starts with this...which is incredible...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akAqMpp-Da0

reallysmoothmusic (Jamie_ATP), Thursday, 6 January 2011 22:59 (thirteen years ago) link

how are those eighties record released after Beautiful Vision (which I like as a minor work)?

Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 January 2011 23:01 (thirteen years ago) link

hard nose the highway is about half a masterpiece tbh. some of my favorite van, along with stuff i always skip. "snow in anselmo" is amazing.

tylerw, Thursday, 6 January 2011 23:05 (thirteen years ago) link

sometimes I think that my favorite Van tune is Them's cover of "It's All Over Now Baby Blue"--definitely one of the best Dylan covers.

the Sonic Youths of suck (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 6 January 2011 23:36 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah it's fab, tho i might prefer 13th floor elevators' cover of that tune. if i had to choose.

tylerw, Thursday, 6 January 2011 23:37 (thirteen years ago) link

that's really good too, but I just dig the little bell-like notes that suffuse Them's cover--they're so lovely. Admittedly, my first exposure to those sounds was on Odelay. They're sampled in the song, "Jackass"

Still one of Van's prettiest moments.

the Sonic Youths of suck (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 6 January 2011 23:42 (thirteen years ago) link

hard nose the highway's good! you'd be missing out if you avoided it

just sayin, Thursday, 6 January 2011 23:43 (thirteen years ago) link

great (terrible) cover too

just sayin, Thursday, 6 January 2011 23:44 (thirteen years ago) link

ha, yeah, odelay's where i first heard it too. really is a lovely effect. xp

tylerw, Thursday, 6 January 2011 23:44 (thirteen years ago) link

Me too.

I'm very partial to Bryan Ferry's version.

Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 January 2011 23:47 (thirteen years ago) link

wow never heard snow in anselmo

how gorgeous

lemmy ruxpin (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 6 January 2011 23:48 (thirteen years ago) link

insanely good version of that song here: http://www.wolfgangsvault.com/van-morrison/concerts/orphanage-july-29-1974.html

tylerw, Thursday, 6 January 2011 23:52 (thirteen years ago) link

also check this, which might be an early version of the same song? some similarities anyway, even though completely different lyrics.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_YMPV3Y8sk

tylerw, Thursday, 6 January 2011 23:56 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah holy shit at 'snow', jeez

bear, bear, bear, Friday, 7 January 2011 00:03 (thirteen years ago) link

thing is nuts, some of those high notes that he sorta doesn't stick are heavy

bear, bear, bear, Friday, 7 January 2011 00:06 (thirteen years ago) link

Just dug out Tupelo Honey prompted by this, and the back cover photo is hilarious: Van, his Woman and a Horse - but Van is sitting on a fence with his legs wide open, like some rustic porn idyll is about to begin. The horse looks worried to me.

sonofstan, Friday, 7 January 2011 00:36 (thirteen years ago) link

I voted for Madame George but if you haven't heard TB Sheets, please do. It's florid and preposterous,and fantastic. I still can't believe it exists when I listen to it.

Fruitless and Pansy Free (Dr. Joseph A. Ofalt), Friday, 7 January 2011 01:26 (thirteen years ago) link

Catching up.
The live KSAN performance from 1971 is absolutely stunning. Think it is the same thing as the pacific high studios boot. Must hear for all Van fans. I'd give it the nod over "It's Too Late" though that's fabulous as well.
EDIT: some of the tracks are up on youtube & are titled pacific high studios:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZpKAB_6qkM

The Greil Marcus book is not really a conventional biography. More of Greil's reactions to Van's music. I thoroughly enjoyed it.
Voted for "Astral Weeks."

Can't resist posting one from this 1974 tv show. It will make Into The Mystic fresh again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpPSBzGEklE

that's not my post, Friday, 7 January 2011 05:13 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah snow in san anselmo is amazing.

IT WAS LAYING ON THE GROUND

clotpoll, Friday, 7 January 2011 07:33 (thirteen years ago) link

love those 70s van performance clips. something amazing about them: from what i know of the guy, he's not the happiest person in the world, but watching stuff like that you can tell that he really does live for the music, like inhabiting those songs is really the only time he feels comfortable in his own skin.

tylerw, Friday, 7 January 2011 16:25 (thirteen years ago) link

not that he looks happy in the into the mystic clip, haha.

tylerw, Friday, 7 January 2011 16:33 (thirteen years ago) link

I love snow in San Anselmo. I've also got a soft spot for Wild Children from that album, with its sudden lurch into cocktail jazz

Dr X O'Skeleton, Friday, 7 January 2011 19:09 (thirteen years ago) link

really i like too much of van's stuff to choose. i love "sweet thing" too.

Moonlight Graham (chrisv2010), Friday, 7 January 2011 19:11 (thirteen years ago) link

woah, thanks tylerw, i know what ima listen too shortly!

KC & the sunshine banned (outdoor_miner), Saturday, 8 January 2011 01:19 (thirteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Tuesday, 11 January 2011 00:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Wednesday, 12 January 2011 00:01 (thirteen years ago) link

one year passes...

On most days I would probably go for "Madam George", but tonight's it's all about "Slim Slow Slider". "I know you're dying, babe.." Jesus.

Mule, Monday, 1 October 2012 20:17 (eleven years ago) link

new Van album out tomorrow!

has he done anything worth hearing recently...or in the last couple decades?

farte blanche (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 1 October 2012 22:12 (eleven years ago) link

see the last several posts....

nah it was in this thread Van Morrison: your views please

tylerw, Monday, 1 October 2012 22:44 (eleven years ago) link

Wavelength is about where I start to get off the wagon, with a temporary rally for Into the Music

Dr X O'Skeleton, Monday, 1 October 2012 23:07 (eleven years ago) link

man I love No Guru and Irish Heartbeat and The Waiting Game and Pay the Devil....Van is just awesome to me & I love that just keeps going

two years pass...

for kornrulz. listen to the lion, live from '74.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZY8T35WsQfU

that's not my post, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 06:53 (eight years ago) link

six years pass...

So Van recorded an interesting outtake in 1970 called "Coming Down to Joy" that didn't really work:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abjYPKvgkv4

It was never given an official release and remains in the vault to this day. BUT, turns out he reworked the song for Kenneth Branagh's new film Belfast, and it was just nominated for an Oscar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHc5i1eenAM

I can't say I'm a fan of the movie - the shallow and syrupy depiction of growing up during the Troubles feels like Branagh's crowd-pleasing tendencies at their worst - but Morrison's new rendition of an old song is pretty decent. Too bad he's been a complete ass for the past year.

birdistheword, Tuesday, 8 February 2022 20:01 (two years ago) link


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