Dave Matthews Band : Name Your Reasons Why They Are So Bad & Hated.

Is that what that's supposed to do? I think the world would be an infinetely finer place if Les Twins Olsen immersed themselves in Killing Joke and Devo.

One of them didn't look at all well on SNL the other night.

hehe- andrew goes to my school. we have known each other since the fourth grade. another thing to consider- i go to school in a really snobbish town in CT (as if CT doesnt imply snobbyness already), and most of the ppl really love dmb. 'crush' was the theme for the junior prom! so for ppl like andrew, its unfathomable that some1 out there DOESNT like dmb. he also flips out if u dislike led zepplin.

If it turns out that he's a professional music critic (and if he owns this CD he almost certainly is), odds are that he's a bed-wetter and probably allergic to sex.

i think what changed for me was the prospect that there might be something better. many of the hardcore fans of dave matthews are CONVINCED that he is the best musician ever, and that he always will be. i mean, maybe alex thinks killing joke is the best band of all time, and always will be. but i think for most everyone here, and probably for alex, too, real progression is important. i think the community here is great because everyone has heard a lot of different things, and has tastes both deep and broad. i think, from what ive seen of dave matthews fans here, most are still in hero-worship form, and havent quite jumped into any real exploration of popular music. this isnt bad, per se. but it makes a clear disconnect between our critical world and their devotional (appreciative?) world.

i dunno - after hearing more music, i think dave matthews is lazy. i think his lyrics are smug, and that his music is pretty boring. i mean, sometimes, its better than others. but the "pish" cymbal comment is OTM. the smooth jazz criticism is OTM. his music doesnt take any stand whatsoever. it doesnt betray any preference; it just hangs in this blase, complacent lump, where it attracts millions of fans. why should it change? theres a real element of emotional dishonesty to it, i think. i think its cheap. mostly, i think it was after before these crowded streets that he became a real parody of himself. it was then that all these "live with tim reynolds" things came out. if his discography contained only UTT, crash, and BTCS, i feel like they might be a pretty bland MOR band with a somewhat novel style, and a little bit of stylistic evolution. but taken in its real-time lifespan, they become more offensive, with all the negative fan stereotypes, and all the laziness and crass business maneuvering of the man himself.

i mean, MOR is a tough thing for me sometimes. things like rumours are pretty unintuitive to me, in that they seem, on first glance, to be as bland and boring as DMB. but i think the answer ive arrived at is that there is real subtlety in fleetwood mac, that the soft rock belies the artist's investment in the art. thats how i live with myself, i guess.

Especially Gomez, indie Brit wimps who SOUND like a bad jam band!

(In the United States, noise bands might be the new jam bands. Or maybe American indie wimp emo bands. Or maybe alternative rap groups. Or alt country bands. Or the Flaming Lips. Or something else.)

"(In the United States, noise bands might be the new jam bands. Or maybe American indie wimp emo bands. Or maybe alternative rap groups. Or alt country bands. Or the Flaming Lips. Or something else.) "

Seems to me the only things these genres/bands have in common is that in general you don't like them.

ahh c'mon, you've given us yr anti-y'allternative rap a million times and you know it.

1. I criticize one of the genres a lot.

therefore

2. I must not like any of them.

Can't argue with that logic, I guess!

But I wouldn't mind a little more of your ludicrous "Chambers Brothers are dub metal" spiel. That shit was funny.

Then post here and explain what's so "ridiculous" about it, moron:

RFI : Dub metal

BTW, in the UK 'undie' is another word for 'pants'.

Chuck, isn't that precisely what you are in relation to Big & Rich and countless other pop country rubbish acts?

Ah, point taken. I'm surprised people would react that way to Coldplay - I don't know anyone who gives a shit about them in the states and they seem so deliberately pedestrian. Although when I travel their presence on the airwaves does seem ubiquitous... maybe they strike a nerve us yanks just don't have.

>... emphasize "virtuosity and spontaneity and transcendence and complexity and authenticity", while being acting like you're unaware that such vague categories could be found in just about ANY genre

http://www.elderly.com/videos/items/images/998/287-DVD114.jpg

Bottom line: DMB sucks, and therefore you must suck for liking them.

Case closed. Next?

DMB sucks -> Alex (et al) doesn't like them.
DMB sucks -> You suck for liking them.

.. just as clarification ...

I love how the sarcasm of this one doesn't really hit til the ironic punchline about all those exciting PJ Harvey and Le Tigre and (this is the obvious clue) Yo La Tengo records. Like, if only all those clueless Counting Crows fans heard those, they'd never turn back!

The other funny (and clearly intentional) thing is that Nirvana, PJ Harvey, Le Tigre, and Yo La Tengo present themselves as just as "earnest," if not more so, as Hootie and the Crows! (Not to mention the stupid dismissal-of-random-r&b-act-as-meaningless crap.)