Has The NME Got Good?

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The Strange Boys are dope though real talk

ᵒ always toasted, never fried (crüt), Monday, 31 May 2010 19:52 (thirteen years ago) link

I do wonder if "young people" really do want an Ian Curtis tribute issue, though?

djh, Monday, 31 May 2010 21:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Lots of "young people" listen to Joy Division.

billstevejim, Monday, 31 May 2010 21:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Ian Curtis' 'stock' is probably as high now as it was in the early 80s. Just count the number of people you see wearing JD T-shirts at gigs.

Duran (Doran), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 11:01 (thirteen years ago) link

didn't they run a cover not even 18 months ago with vampire weekend on the cover that was all AMERICA IS COOL AGAIN & then listed 20 american bands

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 1 June 2010 11:16 (thirteen years ago) link

I think Hermann still thinks it's 1995.

The Men Who Stare At Goatse (Matt DC), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 11:17 (thirteen years ago) link

lolling at animal collective being buried there in b/w avi buffalo & the dum dum girls

cover is kinda cool visually tho -- whole redesign has gone a long way towards making the magazine look less like a music tabloid & instead like an actual journalistic endeavor

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 1 June 2010 11:19 (thirteen years ago) link

ok so it was about 18 mons ago - lol @ lil wayne

http://cdn.stereogum.com/files/2008/08/nme-top_25_bands_making_america_cool.jpg

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 1 June 2010 11:21 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah that old cover style was appalling, I think a lot of the recent covers have been a lot better.

The Men Who Stare At Goatse (Matt DC), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 11:22 (thirteen years ago) link

'how twilight scored the coolest soundtrack ever' is a bold claim!

but it does seem (from the covers n e way) to be better than under conor mack.

transient truff (history mayne), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 11:24 (thirteen years ago) link

has nme forgot that someone made a famous movie about ian curtis

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 1 June 2010 11:26 (thirteen years ago) link

'Joe Lean - Why I canned my debut album'

A nation holds it's breath while we await it's appearance.

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 11:36 (thirteen years ago) link

I do wonder if "young people" really do want an Ian Curtis tribute issue, though?

― djh, Monday, May 31, 2010 9:10 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Lots of "young people" listen to Joy Division.

― billstevejim, Monday, May 31, 2010 9:20 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Ian Curtis' 'stock' is probably as high now as it was in the early 80s. Just count the number of people you see wearing JD T-shirts at gigs.

― Duran (Doran), Tuesday, June 1, 2010 11:01 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^^^ truth

the thing about young people is that Joy Division is still a novel thing to them

ᵒ always toasted, never fried (crüt), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 12:48 (thirteen years ago) link

the Miami Dance Conference

is this still a thing?

transient truff (history mayne), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 12:50 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.nme.com/images/10524_115720_nmemagpageusindie240510.jpg

^^ I like that they picked Colorado to fill in the west

ᵒ always toasted, never fried (crüt), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 12:55 (thirteen years ago) link

I can't read what any of those are (except possible The National in New York?). Is there a link?

kkvgz, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 13:05 (thirteen years ago) link

IN FACTS WE TRUST

tart w/ a heart (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 13:13 (thirteen years ago) link

NME is logical positivists now, u c.

You've changed, Pacific Northwest. You used to be cool.

Hippocrates or wat!! (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 13:27 (thirteen years ago) link

http://altreport.hipsterrunoff.com/2010/06/avey-tare-escalates-personal-brand-named-alt-american-icon-by-nme.html

I guess those ass holes across the ocean are trying to ‘take over’ the indie brand. Guess they can have it since it is irrelevant/dead n e ways. USA is rlly conceptcore/chillwave/bleep bloopy these days, so I am not sure if we are into ‘ghey bands’ like The Muse of The Kings of Leon [via the Lion Kings]. h8 u NME for trying to act like the USA doesn’t produce the best music in the world. AnCo is gonna take yall down in the World Cup of post-indie bands.

truff sqwad (history mayne), Thursday, 3 June 2010 13:07 (thirteen years ago) link

WORST WORLD CUP EVER.

Matt DC, Thursday, 3 June 2010 13:08 (thirteen years ago) link

I love that even in 2010 the NME cover still features both the Stone Roses and Liam Gallagher

Don't forget the Beatles!

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Thursday, 3 June 2010 13:15 (thirteen years ago) link

Geir will never let you forget, don't worry ilxor!

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 3 June 2010 13:26 (thirteen years ago) link

Was going to be snarky and post this in the worst NME cover ever, but I'm feeling charitable and think that on balance it's a good thing that NME are looking at acts that try to push the envelope rather than the usual Oasis/Pete Doherty/Arctic Monkeys stuff.

http://www.nme.com/images/1068_105439_kelenmecover070610.jpg

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 8 June 2010 20:07 (thirteen years ago) link

KELE

BOLDLY GOING WHERE BLOC PARTY NEVER DARED

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Tuesday, 8 June 2010 20:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Cover still features Oasis = yep, it's still the NME.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Tuesday, 8 June 2010 20:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Baby steps.

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 8 June 2010 20:12 (thirteen years ago) link

On first glance, I thought that the cover above listing the American bands said "Warrant" instead of "Warpaint."

X-Wing fighter in hand, "Godzilla" cranked on the stereo (J3ff T.), Tuesday, 8 June 2010 20:14 (thirteen years ago) link

I dunno if it's a good thing or not that a 50+ Paul Weller is making more risky and interesting music than most NME approved "indie bands" have been doing in recent years. Hopefully things will improve in UK indie though. I did think his days of NME coverage was gone though.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 8 June 2010 20:19 (thirteen years ago) link

j3ff I thought the exact same as you when I first saw it!

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 8 June 2010 20:20 (thirteen years ago) link

what a weird cover

gonjasufi smacker (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 8 June 2010 20:28 (thirteen years ago) link

KELE

BEATING BLOC PARTY AT A GAME THEY WEREN'T EVEN BOLD ENOUGH TO PLAY

on some kinda serial killer ish (sic), Tuesday, 8 June 2010 23:41 (thirteen years ago) link

lol

doop snobby snobb (history mayne), Tuesday, 8 June 2010 23:45 (thirteen years ago) link

it looks terrific, which is a huge step up from the past couple years. all they need to do now is... cover decent acts?

tart w/ a heart (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 01:31 (thirteen years ago) link

terrific is not etc.

Mark G, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 07:08 (thirteen years ago) link

That Kele single would be pretty good if it wasn't for his direction-free vocal.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 09:34 (thirteen years ago) link

for a second i thought it was Lethal Bizzle on the cover

mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 11:19 (thirteen years ago) link

Grindie Revival

mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 11:20 (thirteen years ago) link

oh for the halcyon days of grindie

Neil S, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 11:34 (thirteen years ago) link

six months pass...

Today I saw the NME with a whole issue on THE 100 BEST ALBUMS YOU'VE NEVER HEARD.

I looked through it. I had heard some of them, heard of others, didn't want to hear of some.

But the whole exercise seems to be admirable. Yes, I really think that the NME has improved. In a virtually impossible media climate, they are trying, in their way, to be more serious about pop and its history, than they have been in the past decade, even though probably none of what's left of their demographic cares much about it.

They even had a para on The Bodines and 'Therese'!

the pinefox, Friday, 31 December 2010 15:31 (thirteen years ago) link

NME aiming for the "not old enough to read Mojo, not rockist enough to read Q" demographic?

Les centimètres énigmatiques (snoball), Friday, 31 December 2010 15:38 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost I agree. For the first time since 2002, I have found the NME to be worth reading again, if only from time to time. Broader scope, sharper reviews, noticeably higher number of female writers (perhaps not surprisingly), more sincere in its enthusiasms, less desperate in its flogging of worthless dead horses, and generally more trustworthy. Although I'm not in its intended demographic, I no longer feel alienated by its ethos.

mike t-diva, Friday, 31 December 2010 15:53 (thirteen years ago) link

I've not picked up a physical copy yet since the new editor took over, but everything I've seen suggests I will agree with Mike when I eventually do.

Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 31 December 2010 15:58 (thirteen years ago) link

some discussion of that nme list on this thread — I agree that it's p.cool (reminds me of the sort of weird eclectic lists pitchfork used to do, like, a decade ago), but maybe a bit too... easy? hard to explain exactly what I mean, but it sorta feels like tokenism stretched out over an entire list — like, yeah okay, you guys are professional music critics, I certainly hope there are 2 or 3 obscure cool jazz/psychrock/country/whatever albums that you know and love! but that doesn't mean you should slap them all on a list and pretend it means something!!
(related concern: who exactly is the audience for this piece?)

Egyptian Raps Crew (bernard snowy), Friday, 31 December 2010 16:13 (thirteen years ago) link

(I am basing this assessment totally on that one piece — and not even the actual writing, just the list of albums — so grain of salt, of course)

Egyptian Raps Crew (bernard snowy), Friday, 31 December 2010 16:15 (thirteen years ago) link

I actually bought this issue today. I bought the Albums Of Year issue (the only one I buy each year)and I was disappointed with it. But I figured this issue looked interesting enough to pick up and read. I just hope it is worth reading.

Shakey Moe Szyslak (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 31 December 2010 16:29 (thirteen years ago) link

Most of the list was chosen by 'celebs', Mark Ronson chose 5 hiphop albums, Friendly Fires picked some electronica, James Dean Bradfield picked Thomas Dolby and ABC! Hence the rather ramshackle nature of it, but in spite of that it looked more interesting than I expected.

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Friday, 31 December 2010 16:48 (thirteen years ago) link

I bet paul weller chose the zombies. He's been banging on about it for a good few years now every chance he gets.

Shakey Moe Szyslak (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 31 December 2010 17:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Yes he did. And even I heard most of that LP 10 years ago.

My take on this list etc would be: yes it's daft, flawed, shallow etc from all kinds of angles. But attacking a worthy NME piece for that would be breaking a butterfly on a wheel. It's just remarkable that they've done it at all - for the kids, not seasoned pop listeners like ILM; after the drastic, radical decline of the magazine; and in a world where it must be nigh impossible to make a quality print magazine, or maybe any print magazine, anymore. It's in that very limited context that I find it such an admirable swim against the tide.

the pinefox, Friday, 31 December 2010 18:20 (thirteen years ago) link

But the whole exercise seems to be admirable. Yes, I really think that the NME has improved. In a virtually impossible media climate, they are trying, in their way, to be more serious about pop and its history, than they have been in the past decade, even though probably none of what's left of their demographic cares much about it.

NME doesn't need to write about pop as long as its demographic isn't interested. Or, if it does, it should write about pop that its demographic may be interested in hearing about. That is, male guitar pop from the UK.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Friday, 31 December 2010 18:23 (thirteen years ago) link

No geir, the NME should write about good music.

Shakey Moe Szyslak (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 31 December 2010 18:25 (thirteen years ago) link


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