“Monk could have just picked my little ass up and thrown me through a wall”: 2007 Jazz D-bags Thread

I went to see this show and Ben Ratliff OTM as usual.

Matt, control yourself when you see the picture of the bass player.

I'm a little worried about this new Abbey Lincoln record with the non-jazz backing.

Is it Beatles covers? (She hates the Beatles.)

No, it's just some non-jazz musicians, I think. Why does she hate the Beatles- too much like songwriting-for-hire?

kenny are you talking to me or one of the other matts around here?

the bassist in question. she's from the five oh thrizzy!

It had to be you, Matt.

She resents what the Beatles and rock did to popular music (moving it away from the whole jazz singer thing). Or she did. I may have read a very old inrterview, I'm not sure.

Her and Sammy Cahn and millions of other people.

That bass player played a little while ago at the Jazz Standard leading her own trio.

As mentioned on the salsa thread, this dude is playing a freebie in my neighborhood this afternoon.

Hey guys so end of June and all, what're your personal faves thus far?

Christ, I'm not sure I've heard a single new jazz record this year.

For me, lately, Mario Adnet and his sister Muiza Adnet have been killin' it on Adventure Records; their albums Jobim Jazz and Sings Moacir Santos were both pretty much recorded at the same time and the same way, and they're both amazing. Brazil is way out ahead of us here.

Also: Helene Corrini & Beatrice Graf, 2 Ailes; Lafayette Gilchrist, 3; Jerry Granelli & V16, The Sonic Temple; Kartet, The Bay Window; David Binney & Edwardo Simon, Oceanas; Hiromi's Sonicbloom, Time Control; Anat Cohen, Noir and Poetica; Brad Shepik Trio, Places You Go; Anat Fort, A Long Story; Miroslav Vitous, Universal Syncopations II; Antonio Adolfo & Carol Saboya, Ao Vivo; Misha Piatgorsky, Uncommon Circumstances and Aya.

Still loving Ned Rothenberg's Inner Diaspora. (I'm not sure I ever made it back to this thread to say how much I liked it after initial ambivalent listens, which, as I said above, were ambivalent mostly becasue of the instrumentation.)

And I bet the Brazilians could learn something from it.

Haven't heard much but the new Joshua Redman trio disc is excellent, as is the recent David S. Ware farewell disc Renunciation. I just got four CDs by Nik Bärtsch's Ronin in the mail, and am gonna check those out this week. Also, the new Arve Henriksen album Strjon is great, if that counts.

Yeah, I'm really pretty bad about keeping up with new jazz releases myself.

But I'm really enjoying Mal Waldron - The Quest and Paul Bley - Closer right now

hmm, anybody going to see this 70th b-day celebration for Ron Carter in NYC this week? Looks pretty sweet, Hancock, Hall, and a bunch of others. I would go, but I cannot.

Met Carter the other day at a studio session being run by Bob Belden - an album of former Miles Davis sidemen doing Indian-tinged versions of Davis-identified tunes, with Indian musicians punching in their parts from studios in Bombay. Some of it sounded pretty interesting - the bop-era stuff didn't work all that well, but there were really good versions of early '70s tracks like "Ife" being laid down, too. Lots of good people supposed to be on the final product - Michael Henderson, Pete Cosey, Badal Roy, Gary Bartz (he was there in the studio that day too), Carter, Rudresh Mahanthappa (who obviously never played with Miles but turned up and was invited to play something), Jimmy Cobb...a bunch more, too.

I happened to see Ron Carter play one song yesterday at J&R Music World but then I had to go to be somewhere else.

hmm, anybody going to see this 70th b-day celebration for Ron Carter in NYC this week? Looks pretty sweet, Hancock, Hall, and a bunch of others. I would go, but I cannot.

They should have gotten Wadada Leo Smith for a VSOP-style quintet.

All right, I think I'm going to keep on the trombone tip and go see Ray Anderson tonight at The Stone.

I went to 55 Bar and saw this Latin jazz thing led by Marco Marcinko and it was pretty good. Dude on guitar name Vinnie Valentino was burning it up, although if you listen to the stuff on his website, it is way too smoov jazz fusiony for my taste.

Roswell Rudd and Yomo Toro = a joy. Thanks for the tip, Phil! Although I don't actually know if that's a 2007 release.

We're discussing Yomo Toro on this thread? Cool.

I guess we are now. Is there another? I should search.

People on this thread might be interested.
Rolling salsa, merengue, bachata, and reggaeton thread 2007 (Ladies get in for free)

Although Phil is on both threads. I guess the reason I was surprised is that for a second I thought this was on the other thread.

You're discussing Yomo Toro on this thread?

Well, his name has been mentioned.

Although if we were to have a discussion, the participants in this thread are basically a superset of those of the other one, so we could probably just as well have it here.

I pretty much know him from Asalto Navideño, in particular "La Murga," which I think might have been a hit at the time.

Unfortunately my discourse on the Espiritu Jibaro album will probably be limited to "Whooo! That's funky!"

Is there a good web site or e-mail list for NYC area jazz shows? Like an Oh My Jazzness or something?

is this quote referring to tony shalloub ?

I don't have anything much to say about Yomo Toro either, except that he seems to me to deserve his enormous reputation. Also, he appears on lots and lots of recordings, into the present.

Is there a good web site or e-mail list for NYC area jazz shows? Like an Oh My Jazzness or something?

The monthly newspaper, All About Jazz, is a good source - you can find it in jazz clubs and record stores around the area.

You could also try their website:

http://www.allaboutjazz.com/php/calendar/calendar.php

For some reason that calendar site seems to be missing a lot of things that are listed in the print edition. I'd recommend downloading the PDF of the print version from here, and scrolling through to the Event Calendar section:

http://www.allaboutjazz.com/newyork/

All About Jazz is good. I think I'm going to try to see this month's cover boy this weekend, even though I don't like the venue he is at.

A good starting point is the Times Jazz Listings that comes out on Thursday night. Here is the latest:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/13/arts/music/13jazz.html

which also can be accessed through a link in the middle column of

http://nytimes.com/pages/arts/music/

Coming September 18:

MILES DAVIS – The Complete On The Corner Sessions 6-CD box set (Columbia/Legacy)
By 1970, Miles Davis was on his way to creating a new orchestral approach to jazz music, one that drew from Ellington, incorporated electronic sounds and colors. His “jungle sound” would be developed out of these early-seventies experiments, and in his music would retain the spirit of renewal of an artist ever-changing. Don Alias remembers the time preceding the On The Corner sessions. “We had finished this tour of Europe [fall of ’71] and Miles had decided to go for a more funk oriented sound.” Jack DeJohnette rejoined the band upon its return to Europe. Keith Jarrett left by the end of 1971. The musical continuity that had begun with Coltrane ended with Jarrett and David Liebman. There would no longer be a majority of musicians within the band who had strong musical ties to the Davis tradition. Davis had moved closer and closer to the funk based sound of James Brown and Sly Stone, and the musicians he hired began to reflect this direction in his tastes. The first musician Davis would hire was Michael Henderson, an accomplished funk bass player. Henderson’s “locked in” bass grooves simplified the ground that Davis wanted to walk on. Davis’ sound headed to the bottom of the band. On The Corner has achieved a level of devotion among the hip cognoscenti. The LP, when issued, was received favorably by the newly converted Davis fans, as well as by the black music audience that had been following Miles. But the jazz critical establishment, which was still hung up on “Jazz-Rock-Fusion,” couldn’t find a kind word to say about it. On many levels, On The Corner was ahead of its time in the jazz world, but not so in the contemporary classical world. Tape manipulation was developed by the Paris and Darnstadt schools during the 1950s. Emerging from this world came Karlheinze Stockhausen, who became a “celebrity” in this world. Soon, all known musical boundaries were challenged, as much as Schoenberg did in the late nineteenth century. Paul Buckmaster brought that influence into Davis’ musical world and freed up Davis’ idea of “groove.” Buckmaster’s early experiments as a composer with what we would call today “looping” opened the mind of Davis and paved the way for his modus operandi from 1972 until 1980.

Plus, Hurting, if your question is serious, you could just check the websites of the various places like

http://www.jazzstandard.net/red/secondary/jazzCalendar.html
http://www.kitano.com/default.htm
http://www.55bar.com/

I'm thinking of going to one of the Monday or Tuesday shows at the Standard, if not both.

http://cahlsjukejoint.blogspot.com/2007/08/bassist-art-davis-dies.html

Coltrane bassist Art Davis RIP

I saw this vocalist Mina Agossi the other day at the Jazz Standard. She performs with bass and drums and that's it (she loves Jimi Hendrix).

Would ya pay money for a cd from her? Did you think she was good?

You mean you want me to post my opinion, my honest opinion, Steve? The next day I went out and bought a CD and I still can't make up my mind. She does lots of percussive sound effects that go along well with what the drummer is doing and I liked what they did with the trio format, they took their time to work a groove and didn't just go into a freakout jam to fill the space (the bass player could be considered to have cheated a little I guess, by hitting a little switch to loop a line and then playing against that, but this turned out to be a good idea), but there is something about her vocals that are a little too major key, breathy and "look at me, I'm singing and smiling!" that I can't decide whether I like or dislike.

Got Andrew Hill's Change from Amazon yesterday. It's a 1966 quartet date with Sam Rivers, originally paired with Rivers' Dimensions & Extensions under the double-album title Involutions, now out as part of Blue Note's Connoisseur Series. It's not as free as Compulsion, but it's pretty out with some nice trio cuts to moderate the generally headlong pace, and highly recommended.

I've really been liking Eric Reed - "Here." I forget when it's from at the moment (2004?) -- trio album with Rodney Whitaker and Willie Jones. It's not groundbreaking, but it's such a nice, tight piano trio album and it sounds so good. Falls on the headier side of straight-ahead, with a lot exploration in the middle range of the piano and very little pyrotechnic work. Maybe a bit of Herbie Nichols in it, and a bit of Keith Jarrett.

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/51uR47Id14L._SS500_.jpg

I don't even really like John McLaughlin, but that cover!

Dear Jazz Douche-Bags,

Four years after leaving Boston for LA, I still miss going to see The Fringe at the Lizard Lounge. "Pretend" I know nothing about jazz. Where can I go or what can I legally buy to get a similar experience?

xoxo,

Lukas

Went to see Franciso Mela lead a quartet at Cachaça last night. Hardly anybody was there for the 9 o'clock set so they waited until almost ten to start. It was cool, especially the young dude on guitar, Nir Felder, who was really burning it up.