Ed III kicking all sorts of ass on this thread.
Ozzy has no voice in that "Symptom.." clip, but the band sounds heavy as hell.
― Bill Magill, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 14:11 (fifteen years ago) link
like their amps were plugged directly into the earth.
I like this idea/imagery.
― Bimble, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 18:53 (fifteen years ago) link
o hai thanks guys
― Edward III, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 19:16 (fifteen years ago) link
love em both but I voted stooges. sabbath has more songs I like, more albums I like, more consistent albums, I care way more about bands inspired by sabbath, the list goes on... but I just like funhouse more than any sabbath record. or most other records period. had to go with my heart.
― original bgm, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 19:59 (fifteen years ago) link
my vote is cast. sabbath.
― easy, lionel (grimly fiendish), Wednesday, 15 October 2008 21:07 (fifteen years ago) link
Thanks Edward III for the wonderful videos. Iommi's guitar in "Symptom of the Universe" puts me in a state of bliss .
― Vision, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 22:17 (fifteen years ago) link
Symptom vs. Supernaut? You decide!!!
― Cannabis Zed Omega (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 15 October 2008 22:46 (fifteen years ago) link
I wanna reach out and touch this guy.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 22:50 (fifteen years ago) link
touch: "shake hands" or "strangle"?
I know I got slightly gnarly on you on the Sublime thread, but Ned rly you're one of my favorite ILXers!
― Cannabis Zed Omega (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 15 October 2008 22:55 (fifteen years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 23:01 (fifteen years ago) link
Funhouse is a better album than anything Sabbath did, but just counting the original version of Sabbath, they did a whole lot more really killer music. The first Stooges album is cool, but it really a padded EP and Raw Power is a bit different sounding band when you add in James Williamson.
― earlnash, Thursday, 16 October 2008 02:27 (fifteen years ago) link
love em both but I voted stooges. sabbath has more songs I like, more albums I like, more consistent albums, I care way more about bands inspired by sabbath, the list goes on... but I just like funhouse more than any sabbath record. or most other records period. had to go with my heart.― Alan N, miércoles 15 de octubre de 2008 20:59
― Alan N, miércoles 15 de octubre de 2008 20:59
duh. You're supposed to be voting for the best band in the poll not the best record.
― Moka, Thursday, 16 October 2008 20:55 (fifteen years ago) link
the moment of truth is nigh!
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 16 October 2008 20:56 (fifteen years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Thursday, 16 October 2008 23:01 (fifteen years ago) link
You knew it. You just knew it. Anyhoo, a fantastic read throughout. Props to Shakey for setting it off.
― Kevin John Bozelka, Thursday, 16 October 2008 23:08 (fifteen years ago) link
why does ILM hate metal?
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 16 October 2008 23:10 (fifteen years ago) link
when exactly did Funhouse achieve this "OMG THIS IS THE BEST ALBUM OF ALL-TIME!!!!" status? Was it when the box set was released? Cuz I mean its fun and all (haha) but I really do not understand the reverence in which it is held.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 16 October 2008 23:12 (fifteen years ago) link
or is ILM really just a bunch of art fags (which would seem to be the case when the majority opinion is VU>>>>Stooges>>>>Zeppelin>>>>Sabbath)
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 16 October 2008 23:13 (fifteen years ago) link
Iggy keeps the company of David Bowie; Black Sabbath have no friends.
I don't want to literalize this fascinating point too much but did Ozzy-era Sabbath ever hobnob with anyone noteworthy on a regular basis? I don't know their story too well. Which leads to my next question: what's the best Sabbath bio? (I searched but came up with nothing on ILM.)
― Kevin John Bozelka, Thursday, 16 October 2008 23:15 (fifteen years ago) link
"when exactly did Funhouse achieve this "OMG THIS IS THE BEST ALBUM OF ALL-TIME!!!!" status?"
Uh when it was released?
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 16 October 2008 23:21 (fifteen years ago) link
oh come on Funhouse didn't sell shit and the critics hated it when it was released
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 16 October 2008 23:22 (fifteen years ago) link
i don't know what you're bitching about, this is a pretty close poll
― metametadata (n/a), Thursday, 16 October 2008 23:24 (fifteen years ago) link
plus funhouse is better
"oh come on Funhouse didn't sell shit and the critics hated it when it was released"
Fine 1977 then. Either way it's been acknowledged to be a classic since I've been paying attention to music.
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 16 October 2008 23:25 (fifteen years ago) link
I've just always assumed that the Stooges only gradually accrued iconic status primarily due to being trumpeted by later generations of punk bands and their offshoots (the Germs, Henry Rollins, Sonic Youth, etc.) Certainly my first exposure to the Stooges was via Sonic Youth covering "I Wanna Be Your Dog" at the end of set in the late 80s
x-post
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 16 October 2008 23:26 (fifteen years ago) link
er "live sets"
and mostly I'm complaining about Sabbath not winning a single poll they've been in so far! Which just seems wrong for such an important band. And I've voted against them in a couple of those polls!
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 16 October 2008 23:27 (fifteen years ago) link
maybe you should put them up against shittier bands
― metametadata (n/a), Thursday, 16 October 2008 23:28 (fifteen years ago) link
I voted for them in plenty of these polls. Just not this one.
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 16 October 2008 23:28 (fifteen years ago) link
Or the Hawkwind one.
Lot of votes here. Who were the first punk bands to cover the Stooges? Sex Pistols with No Fun or the Damned with I Feel Alright? I think I've seen bootlegs with the Damned doing I Feel Alright in 1976 but I guess the same could be true of the Pistols. Not that it matters or anything.
― I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE UP TO (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 16 October 2008 23:28 (fifteen years ago) link
Was there a VU one? I wouldn't have voted for them in that one either.
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 16 October 2008 23:29 (fifteen years ago) link
Well these threads have been great just for seeing the Paris 1970 footage
― I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE UP TO (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 16 October 2008 23:29 (fifteen years ago) link
shakey you should demand satisfaction and start the stooges vs zeppelin poll
― Edward III, Thursday, 16 October 2008 23:29 (fifteen years ago) link
eh I feel that was well covered by that first four albums poll
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 16 October 2008 23:31 (fifteen years ago) link
hey at least they beat Alice Cooper right? I'm pretty sure they'll lose to Hawkwind, which I also can't really get behind, and the Who too.
velvets vs. sabbath
Who vs. Sabbath
Sabbath vs. Hawkwind
Black Sabbath vs Queen
Taking Sides: Sabbath vs. Hawkwind
BLACK SABBATH VS. ALICE COOPER POLL
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 16 October 2008 23:34 (fifteen years ago) link
They tied with Hawkwind.
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 16 October 2008 23:35 (fifteen years ago) link
haha whoops didn't notice that one had closed
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 16 October 2008 23:36 (fifteen years ago) link
That was a tough poll, but I pull out Space Ritual and Warrior On The Edge Of Time a lot so I felt obliged to vote for Hawkwind.
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 16 October 2008 23:39 (fifteen years ago) link
These vs Sabbath polls made me Suggest Ban for the first time
― I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE UP TO (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 16 October 2008 23:40 (fifteen years ago) link
shakey voting straight sabbath ticket from here on in
― Edward III, Thursday, 16 October 2008 23:45 (fifteen years ago) link
my votes:
velvets vs. sabbath - couldn't actually make up my mind, didn't vote
Who vs. Sabbath - sabbath
Sabbath vs. Hawkwind - sabbath (but hawkwind over motorhead)
Black Sabbath vs Queen - sabbath
BLACK SABBATH VS. ALICE COOPER POLL - can't remember, wanted to vote alice but probably ended up voting sabbath
― M@tt He1ges0n, Friday, 17 October 2008 00:05 (fifteen years ago) link
now I feel bad for not voting against the Who...
― Cannabis Zed Omega (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 17 October 2008 02:16 (fifteen years ago) link
"when exactly did Funhouse achieve this "OMG THIS IS THE BEST ALBUM OF ALL-TIME!!!!" status? Was it when the box set was released? Cuz I mean its fun and all (haha) but I really do not understand the reverence in which it is held."
critics (almost) always liked the stooges. and funhouse has been pretty OMG BEST ALBUM for years and years. and i agree with all hype and hyperbole. i think it's one of the best "things" ever made. completely successful as powerful music, a work of art, fun, and all that. one of the greatest achievements of the 70's. in any genre or field.
― scott seward, Friday, 17 October 2008 03:36 (fifteen years ago) link
that is a hell of a lot of votes
― goole, Friday, 17 October 2008 03:47 (fifteen years ago) link
Creem was the culprit for me; reading article after article about Osterberg and pals in 1980/'81 convinced me to give Funhouse a try.
xp
― **just works just fine** (Ioannis), Friday, 17 October 2008 08:24 (fifteen years ago) link
biglurks contrast lyrics of crazy train and butt town thx
― ╓abies, Friday, 17 October 2008 10:46 (fifteen years ago) link
"Which leads to my next question: what's the best Sabbath bio?"
Martin Popoff did a phenomenal one. It's easy to find, I saw it in Borders the other day. Full of great rare pictures, it is one of the best rock books I have read.
I like Funhouse, but it's not the religious experience it's made out to be. Master of Reality on the other hand.....
― Bill Magill, Friday, 17 October 2008 13:26 (fifteen years ago) link
My first exposure to FunHouse was the box set. I got it as a freebiee (I've told the tale a few times as to why), but I did feel like I made the album along with them.
So, I guess it was a religious experience for me.
― Mark G, Friday, 17 October 2008 13:41 (fifteen years ago) link
You're the dude that got two of them for free, right?
And thanx, Bill!
― Kevin John Bozelka, Friday, 17 October 2008 15:13 (fifteen years ago) link