though I liked it on initial exposure, every subsequent thing I encountered just made it seem weaker and less inspired and just overall terrible

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This usually doesn't happen to me but Strangeways was the first full Smiths album I heard and, though I liked it on initial exposure, every subsequent thing I encountered just made it seem weaker and less inspired and just overall terrible.

― he carried yellow flowers (DJP), Wednesday, October 26, 2011 4:07 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

What albums have worked like this for you? The first one that springs to mind for me is Dead Milkmen's Bucky Fellini. I'm sure there are more.

rustic italian flatbread, Friday, 28 October 2011 17:36 (twelve years ago) link

Loved Everclear's "So Much For The Afterglow" at the time. Everything they've done since has rendered it unlistenable to me now, though.

Kinda afraid to listen the Killers' "Hot Fuss" now for the same reason.

jer.fairall, Monday, 31 October 2011 00:45 (twelve years ago) link

haha I was looking at this thread title thinking "this is EXACTLY how I feel about Strangeways, Here We Come, what amazing synergy"

he carried yellow flowers (DJP), Monday, 31 October 2011 14:16 (twelve years ago) link

The Cure's Disintegration. I'm not even so fond of the singles.

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 31 October 2011 14:20 (twelve years ago) link

Out.

Most albums I listen to these days I do so only once, so there's less chance for an initially positive impression (or admittedly a negative one) to change, so it's hard for me to find a good example to hand here.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 31 October 2011 14:25 (twelve years ago) link

Well, how about an album you start off liking on track 1, then by the last track you are glad that it's over?

Mark G, Monday, 31 October 2011 14:26 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, in recent years I've gotten better at separating dross from awesome.

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 31 October 2011 14:29 (twelve years ago) link

I really can't understand/fathom viewing Disintegration that way, especially in the face of some of the later Cure albums (looking at WMS especially) (which actually would have been a good candidate for this thread, only in that case it was the more I listened to it, the less I liked it).

he carried yellow flowers (DJP), Monday, 31 October 2011 14:37 (twelve years ago) link

As the first Cure album I owned, it sounded less and less interesting with each subsequent purchase, and its reputation now is one of those facts with which we gotta deal, like the continued existence of Taco Bell. Both have this in common: they're discovered and frequented by college students.

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 31 October 2011 14:41 (twelve years ago) link

The Kaiser Chiefs singles off their first album

Peas, Ants, Pigs & Astronauts (PaulTMA), Monday, 31 October 2011 15:23 (twelve years ago) link

(sorry)

Mayne of Fules (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 31 October 2011 15:24 (twelve years ago) link

Both have this in common: they're discovered and frequented by college students.

I've been picking so long
At these nachos of yours
That I almost believe
That they're real

Ned Raggett, Monday, 31 October 2011 15:25 (twelve years ago) link

Anyway how dare you impugn the memory of something that came out in spring of 1989 when I was in the final quarter of my freshman year at UCLA and oh wait.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 31 October 2011 15:26 (twelve years ago) link

no one believes Taco Bell food is real, only that it it DELICIOUS

he carried yellow flowers (DJP), Monday, 31 October 2011 15:26 (twelve years ago) link

Robert should have given the rights to the song to them instead of H-P, he'd still be getting money today.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 31 October 2011 15:26 (twelve years ago) link

There is nothing left but beans

Ned Raggett, Monday, 31 October 2011 15:27 (twelve years ago) link

I liked some Cranberries song the first time I heard it, does that count?

Mayne of Fules (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 31 October 2011 15:28 (twelve years ago) link

In the dorms
This meat is grey
In the dorms
The salsa coats my tongue...

Etc etc ANYWAY

Ned Raggett, Monday, 31 October 2011 15:28 (twelve years ago) link

I liked some Cranberries song the first time I heard it, does that count?

It's in your head.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 31 October 2011 15:28 (twelve years ago) link

I think Disintegration was the 4th Cure album I owned (after KMKMKM, Boys Don't Cry and Japanese Whispers) so I had a sense of their range well before I heard that album.

xp: lol Cranberries! They should be everyone's answer to thread, except "Linger" was terrible from the get-go and "Zombie" exists in a zone of pure hilarity for me now.

he carried yellow flowers (DJP), Monday, 31 October 2011 15:29 (twelve years ago) link

The Crans charmed with their songs full of naivety. Eventually we worked it it wasn't faux-naivety, it was that they actually thought themselves profound.

evidence:
1)You got me wrapped around your finger, do you have to let it linger.
Crap/obvious rhyme.

2) Oh my dreams, are never quite as it seems
Also crap/obvious rhyme

Then came the bad ones...

Mark G, Monday, 31 October 2011 15:43 (twelve years ago) link

Can someone clarify the premise here? Is it that you liked a thing at the time but then it and everything associated with it become horrible over time? Or that you liked a thing then realized it was the worst example of that thing and all the other things were much better. It seems to be: "I liked Everclear at the time, but now realize they are crap" but the Strangeways example is throwing me - you liked Strangeways, but now think it's the least successful Smiths LP? Or you liked Strangeways and found all the other Smiths material crap and now dislike Strangeways as well?

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Monday, 31 October 2011 15:51 (twelve years ago) link

Surfer Blood's LP.

skip, Monday, 31 October 2011 15:52 (twelve years ago) link

you liked Strangeways, but now think it's the least successful Smiths LP

This is my position, only it is understated; I think Strangeways is a terrible misconception/miscalculation of what made The Smiths appealing to me in the first place. Literally everything else The Smiths released towers above it.

he carried yellow flowers (DJP), Monday, 31 October 2011 15:54 (twelve years ago) link

muse's absolution

let me tell you about a band that doesn't withstand relistening, even if you like them at the time

mutant slow drum (BradNelson), Monday, 31 October 2011 15:56 (twelve years ago) link

This is my position, only it is understated; I think Strangeways is a terrible misconception/miscalculation of what made The Smiths appealing to me in the first place. Literally everything else The Smiths released towers above it.

Okay because this seems to have gone in the direction of...I loved [x] but everything else they did was crap so now I can't listen to it. Which is not your original intention. I was just confused because "I really liked Strangeways but couldn't get into any other Smiths" would be, like, the most minority opinion about something musical ever.

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Monday, 31 October 2011 15:58 (twelve years ago) link

lol once again Cranberries ruined something

he carried yellow flowers (DJP), Monday, 31 October 2011 16:02 (twelve years ago) link

I think its:

I liked it at first listen, but then I played it again and with familiarity I lost interest.

Mark G, Monday, 31 October 2011 16:03 (twelve years ago) link

familiarity and/or exposure to other items in the back catalog

also sometimes you lose interest in the entire band rather than that one album/song

he carried yellow flowers (DJP), Monday, 31 October 2011 16:04 (twelve years ago) link

As an example of:

Well, how about an album you start off liking on track 1, then by the last track you are glad that it's over?

― Mark G, Monday, 31 October 2011 14:26 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I quite liked the Fiery Furnaces' "Ep" Cd, lots of tracks. Track 1 I liked, but by the time I got 3/4 way through, I was like Nooh Stoppp!

Mark G, Monday, 31 October 2011 16:08 (twelve years ago) link

The Audio Bullys album sort of did that to me.

he carried yellow flowers (DJP), Monday, 31 October 2011 16:09 (twelve years ago) link

I liked it at first listen, but then I played it again and with familiarity I lost interest.

i.e. I've been looking so long at these albums by you and I almost believed they were real.

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 31 October 2011 16:09 (twelve years ago) link

The Crans charmed with their songs full of naivety. Eventually we worked it it wasn't faux-naivety, it was that they actually thought themselves profound.

This could not be more OTM, and I think their third album was the point where it became extremely obvious. 'Salvation' has to be the most pointless anti-drug song ever written. "To all those kids doing lines/don't do it". Really, Delores? It's really that simple? For EVERYBODY? It's like if someone wrote a song with the lyric "It's easy to quit smoking/you just don't put a cigarette in your mouth/and light it".

Turrican, Monday, 31 October 2011 17:02 (twelve years ago) link

Sigur Ros.

Mum-Ra Gaddafi the Ever-Living (dog latin), Monday, 31 October 2011 17:04 (twelve years ago) link

Nope, that was almost a good line.

Mark G, Monday, 31 October 2011 17:04 (twelve years ago) link

Recently, Deer Tick, unfortunately

Palace Brothers

M Ward (who I have grown to despise)

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Monday, 31 October 2011 17:08 (twelve years ago) link

I said it on another thread - M. Ward has gone from God to tool in my eyes. It actually makes me angry how lousy his most recent stuff sounds.

Mum-Ra Gaddafi the Ever-Living (dog latin), Monday, 31 October 2011 17:08 (twelve years ago) link

^ haven't listened since "Vincent", still love the guylalalalalala

...options. (Ówen P.), Monday, 31 October 2011 20:11 (twelve years ago) link

Mike Joyce says the he can state unequivocally that the favorite album of ever member of the band was Strangeways on the radio show linked here: The Miracle of the Smiths

Miss Piggy and Frodo in Hull (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 12 November 2011 19:25 (twelve years ago) link

Definitely the Palace brothers stuff! Yikes. And Mogwai too.

After reading the doom metal thread I remembered that both Boris and Pelican both worked like this for me. How I (now) hate those bands, let me count the ways... well, Boris isn't all bad but I totally don't have time for them.

liam fennell, Sunday, 13 November 2011 01:32 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

Almost liked a Florence and the Machine song I heard on Dick Clark's New Year's Rockin' Eve but then it felt like The Cranberries all over again.

WATERMELON MAYNE aka the seed driver (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 6 January 2012 00:59 (twelve years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Sigur Ros.

― Mum-Ra Gaddafi the Ever-Living (dog latin), Monday, October 31, 2011 1:04 PM (2 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

absolutely 1,000% OTMFM

wad of baloney (Eisbaer), Saturday, 28 January 2012 14:59 (twelve years ago) link

What albums have worked like this for you? The first one that springs to mind for me is Dead Milkmen's Bucky Fellini. I'm sure there are more.

kinda like the films of that record's namesake ... but that discussion's for another ILX board i suppose

wad of baloney (Eisbaer), Saturday, 28 January 2012 15:01 (twelve years ago) link

Holy Crap, this is amazing! Actually, no hold on.. it's shite!

nostormo, Saturday, 28 January 2012 15:05 (twelve years ago) link

WTF? Bucky Fellini is a fantastic album. It's probably the best Dead Milkmen album, and when I listen to it, I''m stunned by how great and unrecognized it is.

Poliopolice, Saturday, 28 January 2012 16:00 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, but you'll dance to ANYTHING. (Sorry, had to do it.)

Sean Carruthers, Saturday, 28 January 2012 16:51 (twelve years ago) link


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