ILX Metalheads : Do you want a best of 2010 Metal Poll ?

yay or nay?
Who will participate?

I've only heard four or five metal albums from this year so couldn't really participate, but would definitely like to see the results of such a poll.

Don't think I dug on anything even remotely metallic this year. :/

uhoh.
We need voters. No point in running one that has hardly any voters. In the alltime poll hardly any of the metal thread regulars voted it was mainly lurkers/general ilxors. And we saw the complaints about the results due to that.

I'll vote \m/

Will no doubt have to listen to a load of stuff, but that's cool!

I could chip in if one went ahead - have prob heard more metal albums this year than any previous, albeit with a lot of big releases missing - although not really one to invest a lot in polls beyond maybe voting in them

Actually I could brush up on what's been going on this year via the noms/youtube threads. Could be fun.

I've always been not into the whole end of year thing. Also haven't heard many new metal releases this year. So I guess I'll give a qualified "no," because really I can just not read it if it happens.

hi dere!

Count me in to vote.

Can I come in halfway through and call the whole thing a sham just for old time's sake? ;)

i do enjoy reading the results but prob would not vote

we need voters to make this happen though.

i know!

i don't post much but i've voted the last couple of years. it's a good list to read. i understand if it's too much work for not enough input, but i'd miss it.

yeah i know, but we need more people than this to make it work. Lets see how the thread unfolds today. But I cant see the likes of smithy,roxy,ned or skot voting though when they never did before. djmartian has disappeared and chuck didn't even vote in the alltime poll.

i'll vote, i've listened to a lot of metal this year!

smithy's on hiatus, ned and skot never vote anyway, dunno bout roxy?

its quite simple ilxor, we need a lot more than this to vote, but most of the regs wont. So i guess you need to drum up support on the metal thread to get voters.

to be fair, a lot of ppl who will vote haven't seen this thread -- you posted it an hour ago

that is why i said lets see how it unfolds

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWcmcSsry3E

^^ false metal

you shoulda posted england's answer to black metal

I'd vote.

hit parader magazine top 100 metal songs - 1 to 100 - summer 1991 issue

stairway to heaven led zeppelin
highway to hell ac/dc
looks that kill motley crue
paranoid black sabbath
sweet emotion aerosmith
fade to black metallica
welcome to the jungle guns n' roses
you give love a bad name bon jovi
detroit rock city kiss
victim of changes judas priest
crazy train ozzy osbourne
rock of ages def leppard
back in black ac/dc
ain't talkin' 'bout love - van halen
whole lotta love led zeppelin
talk dirty to me poison
rock and roll led zeppelin
eruption van halen
kickstart my heart motley crue
dream on aerosmith
strutter kiss
one metallica
youth gone wild skid row
heaven and hell black sabbath
dude (looks like a lady) aerosmith
black dog led zeppelin
run to the hills iron maiden
still of the night whitesnake
sweet child o' mine guns n' roses
i can't drive 55 sammy hagar
kashmir led zeppelin
and the cradle with rock van halen
iron man black sabbath
you shook me (all night long) ac/dc
smoke on the water deep purple
photograph def leppard
the trooper iron maiden
eyes of a stranger queensryche
livin' after midnight judas priest
rock and roll all nite kiss
round and round ratt
bark at the moon ozzy osbourne
shake me cinderella
dr. feelgood motley crue
peace sells...but who's buying megadeth
pour some sugar on me def leppard
back in the saddle aerosmith
modern day cowboy tesla
wanted: dead or alive bon jovi
breaking the chains dokken
war pigs black sabbath
harvester of sorrow metallica
one more reason l.a. guns
18 and life skid row
empire queensryche
caught in a mosh anthrax
purple haze jimi hendrix
rock you like a hurricane scorpions
poison ivy faster pussycat
every rose has its thorn poison
i'm 18 alice cooper
livin' on a prayer bon jovi
down boys warrant
rock me great white
mr. crowley ozzy osbourne
robot man scorpions
finding my way rush
gypsy road cinderella
lights out ufo
up all night slaughter
we're not gonna take it twisted sister
cat scratch fever ted nugent
ace of spades motorhead
back for more ratt
cherry pie warrant
smooth up bullet boys
kiss me deadly lita ford
girlschool britny fox
metal health quiet riot
comin' atcha live tesla
uncle tom's cabin warrant
wheels of steel saxon
wait white lion
all right now free
just got lucky dokken
to hell with the devil stryper
tom sawyer rush
fly to the angels slaughter
dreams in the dark badlands
last in line dio
17 winger
wait for you bonham
we're an american band grand funk
walkin' shoes tora tora
sunshine of your love cream
the final countdown europe
fuck like a beast - w.a.s.p.
barracuda heart
magician's birthday uriah heep
someone like you bang tango

i had to put that list SOMEWHERE. great tunes on there.

would you vote, skot?

I'll vote like I usually do in these end-of-year tallies.

And I won't complain like I did in the all-time poll. I still wish the point system wasn't changed on that; six people not liking something enough to put it anywhere but the bottom should not equal someone's #1 vote. 50 people? Sure.

i would herman but i have removed polls from my ilx so i wouldn't know what happened!

I'll vote.

i mean the 2010 EOY email poll. Which will show up on your page, scott.

Glenn says he will help out with needle like with other polls, I still need to find out of john & henry are available, but we need to know if there's enough interest. Anyone can catch up between now and january with listening.

Yeah, I'll vote like I have in other years.

Yay.

I can drum up a death metal ballot for aerosmith's votes and a shoegaze-metal ballot for Ned's -- not sure how to vote on scott's behalf, he's not as easy to RONG-ly pigeonhole

For scott, vote for the Lustre record.

The minimum would still be 15 albums. The whole point is to give recognition to smaller albums in the top 100 that get ignored usually. The smaller the ballot the more likely it is to get the boring big names that end up looking like every other list. Will consult glenn to decide on weighting BUT only if it happens. At the moment it wont as there's not enough interest. So get listening to albums and drum up support for a poll.

Might do a tracks poll too if there's interest. I know ILM loves that and most metal lists dont bother.

How many voted last year?

And, personally, I have no use for a tracks poll.

i think the minimum should be 10

yeah a metal tracks poll = zzzzzzz

I will vote and promise not to bitch about it when Sunn o))))))))) inevitably wins.

50 + this year just seems to have little interest. more "ive not listened to enough metal this year" rather than poll fatigue i think. But the thread only started this afternoon, lets see if others declare their support.

really? no support for trax?
15 min, ilxor. Non-negotiable.

What's the big deal if it's lurkers? You got a lot of people voting last year. I think it's worth doing. And a lot of us don't vote in the big polls because they're too broad.

I'm game, I'll vote - I think the Dawnbringer record is gonna be pretty high up for me ... Death Angel and Nachtmystium too

Only reason so many voted was because I had to keep the thread bumped and people (like you) still complained i was hassling folk to vote. I can do without that kinda hassle myself. The alltime poll was no fun to do in the end. A couple of lurkers who voted in that poll emailed me saying they wouldn't vote again because of the shit in that thread. I'm not blaming any single person for that btw.

I just need to know if it's worth running the poll. Ideally I'd like more input from the rolling metal thread regulars, obviously non-regulars and lurkers are more than welcome to vote. My polls are always open-house.

actually jeff, you always hated these polls and reluctantly voted you said.

Look, there's a difference between periodically reminding people to vote and hassling. You were doing the latter. As you've seen, people here seem happy to vote. Give it a shot without the constant bugging. See how it works.

xp I'm in a better mood this year.

there will be a lot more "that shouldnt be in this poll" moans if we do that. And you all know some arseholes will vote for something stupid just to be "funny".
There is never a limit to the # of nominations. That way everything gets nominated and stupid shit gets vetoed. So if there's a poll there will be a noms list (plus it means ppl get to check out albums before voting in jan)
Jeff you are the WORST at complaining that albums shouldn't be allowed.

Kanye for the win!

problem is, people will then vote for stuff that just does not fit the parameters and people will moan like fuck

who cares? most stuff won't place unless it gathers a certain # of votes/points anyway

And you all know some arseholes will vote for something stupid just to be "funny".

WHO CARES

no

if you want people to vote then you should run the poll according to what will encourage ppl to vote! if i ran it myself, i'd make a 2010 metal albums list, but allow albums not "nominated"/listed to be voted for as well

seriously doubt anything not on the main reference list will make the top 30 or so

if anything not nominated breaks the top 30 i'll puree my hat and shoes in a blender and wash them down w/ pigs blood

FUCKED UP: Matthew Herbert Foiled in Plan to Record the Death of a Pig

Thought that was the name of Fucked Up's next album.

no, just an outraged ilxor's thread..

hahaha omg @ that thread

belongs here: IM LEARING TO TROLL

you were serious, dont deny it.

http://old.yoursonglyrics.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/dont-stop-believing-journey.jpg

anyway not much pro-poll stuff here.

like i said -- make voting easy and the voters will come

i think you will find its much easier to have a list to choose from.

and there will be too many stupid votes. so no.

results still won't turn out any stupider than any of the year-end lists here:

2010 Magazine's Albums Of The Year Thread For Posting Lists and Discussion

if people want to vote they will, the problem is the metal guys and gals dont want to vote. or are against polls entirely.

on ilx we do a nominations thread.

I would vote in this.

anyway -- people who want to choose from a comprehensive nominations list can do so. anyone who wants to add something extra (stupid or not) can do so. you can even throw out obvious lol-votes like kanye or whatever.

then they complain that i left out votes, not to mention it fucks up the vote count speadsheets meaning extra work, NO.

If someone says an album has been left out after noms close, they can simply mention it on the thread and ask if they can vote for it. if it meets the criteria then fine.
BUT WE DONT HAVE ENOUGH POTENTIAL VOTERS YET, so its all irrelevant.

Is the issue really that you don't want to do it because of the clusterfuck of the all-time poll? It's okay to say that instead of saying there's no interest because the same people who never vote aren't going to vote in it. Sounds to me like the usual suspects are all interested.

Aye, and it's not like about a dozen people on the thread haven't said they're taking part already FFS.

If anything, the obsession shown with four named posters and their contributions makes me feel like it's some special club I can never be part of because I don't post enough so maybe I shouldn't bother.

They don't want to vote, for whatever reason. The rest of us do, and what's more we get something out of the results. There were maybe 10 records in last year's list that I'd either missed or misjudged that the poll made me reevaluate. How is that a bad thing?

people will vote, just run the poll. also, try not to come across like such a nominations nazi, people will like you better and not give you as much shit in the results thread, i'm guessing?

<3,
ilxor

also do we make it a heavy rock/metal poll to stop people complaining that there's non metal stuff in it? Because lots of stuff in it every year are obviously not actually 'metal'. Like when marnie stern made it and everyone complained.

Show me one of your regulars who would complain if the Swans album was top 10.

if you include heavy rock, people will complain

if you dont include heavy rock, other people will complain

who cares??

if we can agree on that then I guess we can just try running it. Dunno if jj is able to do it tho. not heard from him.

ilxor youre not helping

well sorry but the most tedious part of this is having you complain about how many ppl are going to complain

anyway...... on w/ the poll, i say

If there was a ^this button I would have pressed it after nearly all ilxor's posts.

just include heavy rock and other metal subgenres and veto the bullshit noms? are we agreed?

make a loose nominations list, allow people to vote outside the list if they bother to think of anything else

i've already said what i will allow

anyone want a trax poll?

ohh sorry i thought you meant "veto the bullshit noms [list]"

i am okay w/ it still

Yeah, run a noms list for a couple of weeks before opening voting just to remind people. It's actually been a pretty long year for potential high placers - didn't Cathedral come out in January or something?

no we have a noms list, if anything is missed out you can ask on the voting thread if you can include it, if its within poll parameters and noone vetoes it then it will be a yes.

Give me a date for closing nominations.

12/31/10

everyone ok with that?

And does ANYONE WANT a Metal Tracks Poll?

1) Nachtmystium - "No Funeral"

2-50) who cares

j/k

would be my #1.
but please, anyone who wants a tracks poll please say so, if you dont i'll just assume you dont. dont want people being put off saying so if others say no.

i will help out on this if i can but have to be pretty noncomittal in general because wedding prep/dead computer are taking up most of my time/anger, which is why ive been not ilxing much as of late.

Can a mod please lock this thread?

Discussion is over at
ILM Metal/Heavy Rock & other 'metal' subgenres 2010 POLL NOMINATIONS THREAD CLOSES 31/12 - All are welcome.