Taking Sides : Parliament or Funkadelic ?

"I had no groove" (no groove, no groove)

Or in Clinton's own words (approx.), Parliament are "commercial, with horns and stuff," Funkadelic are "nasty, like 12 Jimi Hendrixes in one band." I prefer Funkadelic, being more a hard rock than soul fan. Best album: STANDING ON THE VERGE OF GETTING IT ON.

(Parliament's 60s RHENIUM/OSMIUM is the odd album out; before they found their groove. It prefigures Funkadelic, though "Red Hot Mama" and "I Call My Baby Pussycat" set the template for the Funkadelic sound. The bagpipes are quite the anomaly.)

Funkadelic changed too much. By 'Uncle Jam Wants You' they basically sounded like Parliament. I think they're a lot less consistent than Parliament.

Saw Original P for free at Fort Dupont Park in Southeast DC tonight. "Original P" includes 2 founding members of Parliament, Grady Thomas and Fuzzy Haskins. Their large group did "Cosmic Slop", "Standing on the Verge," "Flashlight," "Atomic Dog," and other songs associated with Parliament and Punkadelic. It was fun. The place was packed--at least 4,000 or so people.

Most of my favorite P-funk songs are by Funkadelic ... but only after they went pop.

both made pretty patchy albums by and large. hard to choose but im gonna say parliament.

funkadel

Paliament

Parliament, because they used more synths and synthetic drums. Sounds cooler.

i always thought a fair amount of their records sounded like they had been over thought out. like clinton had spent ages going over it. perfectionism, despite all the druggy studio rumours.

I saw Original P, like, ten years ago at SxSW -- I can't believe they're still together!

Or alive for that matter!

this is kinda a meaningless comparison unless you just narrow it down to which albums, on the whole, are better (since its all essentially the same people). In which case I vote for Funkadelic.

bootsys rubber band made better albums overall.

I saw Original P, like, ten years ago at SxSW -- I can't believe they're still together!

Or alive for that matter!

― Naive Teen Idol, Monday, July 20, 2009

They formed in '97 I think and since then Calvin Simon left the group to become a gospel solo artist and Ray Davis died. Calvin, Ray, and the 2 remaining original members Grady and Fuzzy formed Original P and were original Parliament vocalists who in the '90s left George Clinton probably because of money issues. I just saw them at a large outdoor free show in DC's Anacostia ward. FWIW, me and my 2 buddies were some of the only white folks there (I literally counted 7 of us). The crowd consisted of mainly folks in their 30s and 40s.

Well, that explains it. Ray's dead. When I saw them, Catfish Collins with with them as well, which was kind of awesome.

there is some weird collection of "Parliament-Funkadelic: 1973-1976 Unreleased Demos and Outtakes" making the rounds, anyone heard these yet...? Herman? Loads of stuff I don't recognize on it

really high sound quality from what I can tell...

funkadelic tbh

http://www.hqhiphop.net/2009/09/parliamentfunkadelic-unreleased-demos.html

oh shit this song Chinny Chin Chin (The Bigger the Pill)!!!

13 minute of version of Tales of Kidd Funkadelic!

I see I am alone here...

I've bookmarked this to check out at home later, but I haven't heard it.

I think this is the thing i downloaded 2 years ago but it was 3 long 70 min files, this is split up at least.

OHMYGAWD @ "Eddie Hazel Rocks Out (Smeero's Jam)" super-friiiiiiied

R.I.P. David Mills who wrote about P-Funk, and just died at age 48 in New Orleans where he was working on the new HBO tv show Treme with David Simon (producer of The Wire)

http://www.avclub.com/articles/rip-david-mills-writer-for-the-wire-and-treme,39701/

Mills first tried his hand at screenwriting with an episode of Homicide, written for his old friend Simon. The episode (starring Robin Williams) was named “Bop Gun” in reference to a Parliament Funkadelic song; Mills was a diehard funk fan, having published the independent fanzine Under The Funk (focusing exclusively on the music of George Clinton) in his early days, and throughout his career he would drop these sorts of P-Funk references in his scripts—even naming his production company Knee Deep after the 1979 song, “(Not Just) Knee Deep.”

I have this book. From Wiki:

In 1998, Mills and some of his fellow Uncut Funk authors edited various interviews they had conducted with P-Funk members over the years. The resulting book, George Clinton and P-Funk: An Oral History, was published as part of the For the Record series, edited by music critic Dave Marsh.

yeah me too - its pretty good (amazingly short tho)

anyway RIP

And that AV Club Onion piece lists the name of Mills' fanzine wrong (I wrote for it btw, I had met Mills when we were both at the U of Md)...it was Uncut Funk not Under The Funk

lol Under the Funk doesn't even make any sense

"edited by music critic Dave Marsh"

Sounded great up to that part.

eh, pretty sure he was also the editor for the Sly "Off the Record" book, which is one of the greatest music bios ever (if not THE best)

Gary Shider has cancer.

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/clicktrack/2010/05/parliament-funkadelic_guitaris.html

Oh yeah I saw that. How sad. Love his fashion style as well as his musicianship.

Bummer, best wishes Garry

Funkadelic. Their recordings with Eddie Hazel are monumental funky guitar bam-a-lam. Since Hendrix was namechecked by George C. himSELF I propose that theoretically Jimi would have adopted a sound similar to Funkadelic crossed with '69 - '74 Miles Davis by the end of 1972. But his lyrics would've been much better; Jimi is under-rated as a wordsmith IMO.

RIP Garry Shider

nooooooooooooo

whoa RIP

So sad. Cancer. Maybe he should get his own RIP thread...

Just listened to the version he sang on Material's Third Power of "Cosmic Slop." Seriously fantastic vocal.

Fo' sho'. That album's unfairly dismissed imo.

Thought this was revived for RIP Phelps "Catfish" Collins.

The Mothership — the iconic stage prop made famous by legendary funk collective Parliament-Funkadelic — has been acquired by the Smithsonian’s National Museum of African American History and Culture where it will help anchor a permanent music exhibition when the museum opens its doors in 2015

From Chris Richards piece in the Washington Post

awesome

There's a lot of chocolate cities, around... But you're the capital, CC!

nice!

I got excited for a second there and thought they found it, but it's just a replica.

yeah the real one's like hidden in a forest somewhere iirc

well "real"... I guess I should say "original"

The original one was destroyed by outraged fans when it accidentally landed at the Hootie concert.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/click-track/post/how-bernie-walden-helped-the-mothership-land-at-the-smithsonian--and-other-reactions-from-the-funk-community/2011/06/02/AGBeeSHH_blog.html

I didn't even know they had a replica - I told Kim Manning (current P-Funk vocalist) I wanted to try and build George a new Mothership...

shakey mo and other funkateers go vote please!
RFI: Man

well go vote on the right thread :)
1970-1979 WTF - The Hard 'n' Heavy 'n' Loud + Krautrock, Arty, Noisy, Weird, Funky, Punky Shit - Albums Poll! - VOTING THREAD! Closes Mar 8th 11.59 PM UK Time - All ILXORS/LURKERS WELCOME

I like both, but there are more Funkadelic albums that I like than Parliament albums.

me too

There are more Funkadelic albums

haha yes

Id take the 1st Mutiny album or the Sweat Band or Quazar albums over some Funkadelic and Parliament.

the motherpage is gone :(

anyway
http://www.listchallenges.com/p-funk-band-challenge

lets see how well Shakey Mo does

26

Only 19! There's quite a lot missing from that list too!

this year is getting worse
http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2016/01/06/p-funk-keyboard-guru-bernie-worrell-has-stage-4-cancer/

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaHggggggggghhhh fuck

Fucking hell :(

:( Anyone who has ever crossed paths with Rick Wakeman better watch their back.

Yeah this is pretty much the worst year ever and it's February 1st. 😢

wait, now what happened

wait, now what happened

Bernie? Is there more news?

you had me scared GC died :(

yeah - don't do that!

RIP

RIP Junie Morrison