1970-1979 WTF - The Hard 'n' Heavy 'n' Loud + Krautrock, Arty, Noisy, Weird, Funky, Punky Shit - Albums Poll! - VOTING THREAD! Closes Mar 8th 11.59 PM UK Time - All ILXORS/LURKERS WELCOME

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So here we go-
PLEASE READ ALL OF THE BELOW BEFORE VOTING

You can vote for a minimum of 20 and maximum of 100 albums, But you CANNOT VOTE FOR MORE THAN 3 ALBUMS BY THE ONE BAND

You can choose to submit a weighted, unweighted or split ballot. Points will be assigned as follows: Weighted: 1st choice (top of the ballot) 260 points, then 245, 235, 225, 220, 215, 210, 205, 200, 195, 190, 188, 186, 184 and so on down to 2 points for 100th place. Unweighted: Every choice gets 113 points. Split: The top portion is treated as a weighted ballot and the remaining potential points total is divided equally among the bottom portion.

But It would be good if those who don't want to rank a full ballot would still rank the top 10 or 20 then do a split unranked ballot rather than pure unweighted.
It's entirely up to you but It's helpful for avoiding ties and the top albums deserves the points. So please try and rank part of your ballot. You know it looks better when albums have a #1.

Some may want to just vote for the heaviest or 'rockingest' tracks. They may wish to vote in the style of the 80s poll. Or you may just simply want to vote for your favourite albums in the list. It's entirely up to you. Just vote please!

Please make sure you copy and paste your selections directly from the following spreadsheet: ALBUMS: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AumbddEHET5xdEZaQ0paMUZpNEdGeUdRSGRTY3BfV2c

Here is the voting form
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dEN3MGdQQkdWWUtsM19SYlZ0UTdzQkE6MQ

There is also a Spotify Albums Playlist please subscribe to it. Not everything is on Spotify though.

Voting Closes Nov 8th 11.59 PM UK Time

Please use this thread to campaign for albums, particularly the lesser known ones. It will result in albums being checked out and probably voted for. Campaigning really works
Do not post youtubes in here. Please start a separate thread for that.

Now please campaign and vote and enjoy listening to a multitude of new albums! And feel free to discuss any bands or albums here or about music in the 70s. lets have lots of good discussion, everyone welcome to join in even those who don't want to vote.

Have fun!

ps bookmark the thread!

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 20 October 2012 01:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

If you have any questions please ask.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 20 October 2012 01:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

And a big thanks to seandalai who has set up the voting form and will be doing all the work i.e. tabulating.
Much appreciated!

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 20 October 2012 01:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

Do we need to have two threads? You vote for albums and tracks via the same form.

fish frosch (seandalai), Saturday, 20 October 2012 01:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

It helps with campaigning and they don't get mixed up

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 20 October 2012 01:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

plus the tracks poll has different rules so no point in confusing anyone.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 20 October 2012 01:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

There are different rules for trax? Do I need to know this?

fish frosch (seandalai), Saturday, 20 October 2012 01:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

ps everybody vote for Satori

fish frosch (seandalai), Saturday, 20 October 2012 01:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

balls emailed about it!

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 20 October 2012 01:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

aha

fish frosch (seandalai), Saturday, 20 October 2012 01:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

ps vote Mandrill Is and some Funkadelic and Ohio Players!

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 20 October 2012 01:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

sorry I'm only voting for RAWK.

fish frosch (seandalai), Saturday, 20 October 2012 01:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

So you're voting funkadelic then!

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 20 October 2012 01:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

these are in twice -

Crass - Feeding of the 5000
john Lee Hooker - Endless Boogie
King Crimson - Red
Michael Rother – Sterntaler
The Deviants - The Mona (The Carnivorous Circus) also down under Mick Farren
Visitors - s/t also down as The Visitors

first look and i've got it down to about 200.

stirmonster, Saturday, 20 October 2012 01:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

fixed

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 20 October 2012 01:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

you CANNOT VOTE FOR MORE THAN 3 ALBUMS BY THE ONE BAND

That's okay, I don't even like The One Band. Well, their early singles were okay...

emil.y, Saturday, 20 October 2012 02:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

I thought you preferred their demos

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 20 October 2012 02:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

Spotify playlist for tracks on that thread

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 20 October 2012 02:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

I hope you all dont cry too many tears cutting your shortlists this time to 100

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 20 October 2012 02:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

bump

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 20 October 2012 11:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'd like to remind people that voting has been extended in The Official ILM THE NEPTUNES Poll (#27 In Series) - Voting & Campaigning Thread (Voting Deadline - October 19th) so please go vote if its your thing.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 20 October 2012 14:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

submitted. that was so hard that i had to leave off a pile of records i nominated.

stirmonster, Saturday, 20 October 2012 16:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

Do you wish I had allowed a ballot of 200?
I've not even looked at the noms yet to start on mine. Need a day or 2s break from the poll to think about it/

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 20 October 2012 16:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

200 would have been great. i had to get mine done this afternoon as it's the only time i have free before the deadline.

yes, you'll be all polled out now.

stirmonster, Saturday, 20 October 2012 16:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

Some of my favorites -- Funkadelic, Zappa, and Black Sabbath -- are pretty much guaranteed to be split votes due to the lack of hit albums. Should us fans of those acts just agree on which albums we're going to vote on? For Funkadelic, I'd say it's the eponymous album. Black Sabbath is really tough, just realized they punched out five great LPs in just four years, but I guess Paranoid could be considered their hit release. Zappa needs moar Joe's Garage, but Apostrophe is another strong contender.

Also, what's with the woeful Floyd deficit? Wish You Were Here isn't rock now?

viborg, Saturday, 20 October 2012 16:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

Really liking Mandrill Is.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 20 October 2012 16:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm not even really sold on the concept of 'vote splitting' when it comes to an album poll tbh. If Sister were not on the list for the 80s poll, do people think that its fans would have all voted for Daydream Nation instead just so they could vote for a Sonic Youth album? Seems questionable. I like Zappa's big band albums and there's no way I'm voting for the record with "Don't Eat the Yellow Snow" on it to help Zappa place. (I was trying not to say anything but this three-album rule seems a bit draconian to me if we're voting for 100 albums tbh.)

EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 20 October 2012 17:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

Just vote for your favourites (no, the Funkadelic s/t isnt really anyones fave its usually maggot brain/standing/free your mind)
the list will be large so there's no reason why all the big albums wont be in the list plus some obscure faves.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 20 October 2012 17:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

oh and ilms fave sabbath albums in previous polls are Vol iv and master of reality.
led zep iii is ilms fave but questionable that it should be in this poll

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 20 October 2012 17:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

Physical Graffiti won this poll, with III coming in fourth place.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 20 October 2012 17:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

III is def the least rawk so I'd be uncomfortable if it won then again i'd be lol ilm too. I don't see me voting for it. PG is my fave zep but I'll have to think how I'm gonna approach it.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 20 October 2012 18:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

btw thanks for voting stirmonster. Could everyone who votes post here please so i can check it went through.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 20 October 2012 21:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

So the top 50 weighted are always worth more than any unweighted vote right? And it wouldn't make sense to have anything over position 50 be unweighted or to rank anything below 50th place. Am I understanding it right?

wk, Saturday, 20 October 2012 21:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

I boobed on one of my noms cos I'm a stoop - the Far Out album (their only one iirc) actually has a name and it's called Nihonjin

a punch-up at a web zing (NickB), Saturday, 20 October 2012 22:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

okay, probably time to fire up the playlist and actually listen to some of these swaggering thundercocks

a punch-up at a web zing (NickB), Saturday, 20 October 2012 22:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

wk I don't know and will need to leave seandalai to answer that

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 20 October 2012 22:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

Probably doesn't matter much but there are two Twink Think Pinks.

a punch-up at a web zing (NickB), Saturday, 20 October 2012 22:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

So the top 50 weighted are always worth more than any unweighted vote right? And it wouldn't make sense to have anything over position 50 be unweighted or to rank anything below 50th place. Am I understanding it right?

― wk, Saturday, October 20, 2012 9:51 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Long explanation that I hope answers the question:

If you have an unweighted ballot, everything gets 113 points. Doesn't matter how long the ballot is.

If you have a weighted ballot, the points scheme in the OP is applied: 260, 245, 235, 225, 220, 215, 210, 205, 200, 195, 190, 188, 186, 184 and so on until the end of the ballot. If your ballot is short (49 items or fewer I think), then every item gets more than 113 points so in this case there's no reason to submit an unweighted ballot.

If you have a split ballot then we start counting down 260,245,235,225,220,215,210,205,200,195,190,188,186,184,... as for a weighted ballot until we reach the split point (indicated by a blank line on your ballot). At that point we work out how many points remain from the total "budget" of 11300 and distribute that remainder equally among all items in the second part of the ballot (rounding fractional amounts down to the next integer). The points given to each item in the second part will be less than 113. The items in the top half of the second part will get fewer points than they would on a fully weighted ballot, while the items in the bottom half of the second part will get more points.

fish frosch (seandalai), Sunday, 21 October 2012 00:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

Thanks seandalai!

Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 21 October 2012 12:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

Swaggering Thundercocks!

Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Sunday, 21 October 2012 13:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

quite.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 21 October 2012 16:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

ah. ok if i resubmit mine all weighted?

stirmonster, Sunday, 21 October 2012 17:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

sure

Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 21 October 2012 17:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

its not really up to me but i know seandalai has allowed it before.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 21 October 2012 18:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah no problems, I'll delete the old ballot.

fish frosch (seandalai), Sunday, 21 October 2012 18:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm sorry I know this might sound like a dumb question, but what is an unweighed ballot? Aren't all ballots going to be the top whatever number 50 or 100, going downwards until the #1?

JacobSanders, Sunday, 21 October 2012 18:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

its for those too lazy to rank the albums

Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 21 October 2012 18:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

There are three options for distributing votes across the items on your ballot. If you can't face the mental trauma of picking a favourite child album from your list, you can pick the unweighted option and every album will get the same number of points.

fish frosch (seandalai), Sunday, 21 October 2012 19:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

or you can rank a part of your ballot and leave the rest unweighted

Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 21 October 2012 19:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

PLEASE READ ALL OF THE BELOW BEFORE VOTING

You can vote for a minimum of 20 and maximum of 100 albums, But you CANNOT VOTE FOR MORE THAN 3 ALBUMS BY THE ONE BAND UNLESS YOU FILL OUT A FULL BALLOT OF 100 THEN THERE IS NO LIMITS

You can choose to submit a weighted, unweighted or split ballot. Points will be assigned as follows: Weighted: 1st choice (top of the ballot) 260 points, then 245, 235, 225, 220, 215, 210, 205, 200, 195, 190, 188, 186, 184 and so on down to 2 points for 100th place. Unweighted: Every choice gets 113 points. Split: The top portion is treated as a weighted ballot and the remaining potential points total is divided equally among the bottom portion.

But It would be good if those who don't want to rank a full ballot would still rank the top 10 or 20 then do a split unranked ballot rather than pure unweighted.
It's entirely up to you but It's helpful for avoiding ties and the top albums deserves the points. So please try and rank part of your ballot. You know it looks better when albums have a #1.

Some may want to just vote for the heaviest or 'rockingest' tracks. They may wish to vote in the style of the 80s poll. Or you may just simply want to vote for your favourite albums in the list. It's entirely up to you. Just vote please!

Please make sure you copy and paste your selections directly from the following spreadsheet: ALBUMS: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AumbddEHET5xdEZaQ0paMUZpNEdGeUdRSGRTY3BfV2c

Here is the voting form
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dEN3MGdQQkdWWUtsM19SYlZ0UTdzQkE6MQ

Voting Closes TONIGHT MARCH 8th 11.59 PM UK Time

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 8 March 2013 18:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

Mr III and Hellhouse do not forget!

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 8 March 2013 18:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

forget what

unprepared guitar (Edward III), Friday, 8 March 2013 18:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

okay. I voted.

C: (crüt), Friday, 8 March 2013 20:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

got it, thanks!

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 8 March 2013 21:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

hellhouse plans to vote but might not be able to get it in till 2AM britisher time

unprepared guitar (Edward III), Friday, 8 March 2013 21:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

also while going through my ballot I realized the monitor release nominated is a 7" and is not eligible for this poll lol

unprepared guitar (Edward III), Friday, 8 March 2013 21:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

these are duplicates, can sendalai combine any votes for them?

The Kids - The Kids
The Kids - s/t

Mars - Mars lp
Mars - The Complete Studio Recordings NYC 1977-1978

unprepared guitar (Edward III), Friday, 8 March 2013 21:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

All depends on seandalai

xp

that too

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 8 March 2013 21:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

As former plug.dj stalwart turrican would say c'moooown

― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, March 7, 2013 3:38 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

C'mown!

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Friday, 8 March 2013 21:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

RIP Turrican and in his honour I will be playing tracks from the 70s poll for the benefit of late voters in the poll.
http://plug.dj/ilxors/

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 8 March 2013 21:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

final 2 hours for voting

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 8 March 2013 21:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

iirc the last poll was decided by jjj's ballot. If he votes it could happen again.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 8 March 2013 21:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

Just voted in both album and trax poll. Probably boring ballots, but whaddya gonna do, I can't keep up with you crazy motherfckers.

doctor, doctor, what's in my shirt (askance johnson), Friday, 8 March 2013 21:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

also while going through my ballot I realized the monitor release nominated is a 7" and is not eligible for this poll lol

I realized that too, thought you were messin with our heads! It's a great single, and I like the album a lot too. I think it was reissued recently, but vinyl only on Superviaduct. http://www.superiorviaduct.com/monitor/ They also did MX-80 Sounds' Hard Attack and The Sleepers - Painless Nights. Too bad I don't have a turntable :/

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 8 March 2013 22:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

thanks askance johnson, and dont worry boring ballots are most welcome and far far better than no ballots!

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 8 March 2013 22:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

You can vote for 3! or them all if you do a ballot of 100.

lol I can't read. oh well, too late.

wk, Friday, 8 March 2013 22:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

if you can be bothered you can resubmit as long as you do it within the next hour and 3/4

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 8 March 2013 22:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

btw seandalai if you're reading this askance johnson put his tracks and albums votes in the wrong columns.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 8 March 2013 22:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

and so has edward iii

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 8 March 2013 22:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

Oh good lord, sorry. Should I vote again or ???

doctor, doctor, what's in my shirt (askance johnson), Friday, 8 March 2013 22:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

no it should be ok as long as seandalai knows about it. Unless you want to rejig your ballot in which case go for it

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 8 March 2013 22:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

I cant edit ballots or anything to fix mistakes so i cant do it for you im afraid.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 8 March 2013 22:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

maybe it's a problem w/ the form, this is what I just submitted

unprepared guitar (Edward III), Friday, 8 March 2013 22:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

sorry 4 the spoilerz

unprepared guitar (Edward III), Friday, 8 March 2013 22:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

hmmm I cant do anything to the form so will need to wait until seandalai checks it

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 8 March 2013 22:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

lots of rushed ballots leading to rejigged ballots being sent in today.
Thanks for helping out seandalai though, will make things easier if you notice and correct your mistakes.

Now 52 mins left to vote!

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 8 March 2013 23:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

ive lost count how many we have now (its hard to work out on the sheet plus duplicates etc confuses further) but we must be close to 90 ballots.

Thank you!

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 8 March 2013 23:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

these are duplicates, can sendalai combine any votes for them?

ok, got it...

I have to spend some time cleaning up people's ballots so you may be able to squeeze in a ballot after midnight if I'm not finished yet - no guarantees though.

aztec table rapper (seandalai), Friday, 8 March 2013 23:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

just emailed you seandalai. Can you reply please? (its about doing tracks first so the viceroy can start rollout tonight)

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 8 March 2013 23:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

Anyone other than hellhouse planning to vote? jjj? chuck?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 8 March 2013 23:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

OK
VOTING REMAINS OPEN UNTIL SEANDALAI POSTS VOTING IS CLOSED

So if you want to vote declare now so he will give you time.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 8 March 2013 23:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

HELLHOUSE MADE IT!!! YES!!!

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 8 March 2013 23:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

Voted!

citation needed (Mr Andy M), Friday, 8 March 2013 23:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

Got it! Thanks!!

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 8 March 2013 23:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

I still feel bad that billy dods votes for all time metal poll didn't get through and I haven't seen a ballot from him this time :(

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 8 March 2013 23:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

exciting times. Viceroy will be rolling out the trax poll in an hour or 2 folks.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 9 March 2013 00:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

I assume noone intends to do an albums ballot now.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 9 March 2013 01:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

How many album ballots did we get?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 9 March 2013 01:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

90 albums ballots, 56 tracks ballots.

aztec table rapper (seandalai), Saturday, 9 March 2013 02:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

awesome!

Your spectacular host (Viceroy), Saturday, 9 March 2013 03:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

I meant to talk about ineligible albums like fro Jefferson Airplane (69) or Wipers (80)

Josh and D.A.M. (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 9 March 2013 03:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

I originally didn't expect more than 75, so 90 is beyond awesome!

Fastnbulbous, Saturday, 9 March 2013 15:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

when we run the results, it would be great to see the Rolling Stone reviews of the placing albums

gentle german fatherly voice (President Keyes), Monday, 11 March 2013 13:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

you volunteering to type them all out?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 11 March 2013 14:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

Maybe if anyone here is a subscriber they could c and p them from the archives
Just dreaming

gentle german fatherly voice (President Keyes), Monday, 11 March 2013 16:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

I'll look into making your dreams become reality. The rollout will be here soon!

I'm doubting Sir Lord Baltimore will get any love in the singles poll, but I have hopes it will place in the albums. From the previous issue of Classic Rock mag (there's another one out but it lags in the U.S.), Roadrunner founder Monte Conner lists some favorite proto-metal songs, and his top 5 Sir Lord Baltimore Songs.

Bloodrock, "Melvin Laid An Egg" (1970)
Lucifer's Friend, "Ride The Sky" (1970)
Atomic Rooster, "Death Walks Behind You" (1970)
Dust, "Suicide" (1972)
Captain Beyond, "Mesmerization Eclipse" (1972)

See Sir Lord Baltimore list and vids here - http://www.classicrockmagazine.com/features/sir-lord-baltimore-the-original-heavy-metal-kids/

In other news, Hawkwind are to revisit their fifth studio ablum, 1975's Warrior On The Edge Of Time, during a spring UK tour which kicks off at the HawkEaster event in Devon on March 30/31 and includes regional dates in April. Other shows are being planned for later in the year.

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 15:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

f'in sweet!

smh on the water (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 15:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

I have a RS sub but having difficulty getting access to their archive. Anyone else having trouble? So no RS entries unless someone else can help, or their support actually gets back to me.

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 14 March 2013 21:35 (1 year ago) Permalink


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