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Friday September 17, 2004 @ 03:30 PM
By: ChartAttack.com Staff

With a Best Of record on the way, the reigning
monarch of creep rock has been getting
reflective. Marilyn Manson may not freak out
parents in the same way he used to, but he's
always going to be the weird one.

"I feel like more of an oddity," says a sickly,
croaking Manson, explaining how he views
himself. "As long as someone's not charging
quarters to look at my balls or something. That's
what it can't be."

The Anti-Christ Superstar is mighty ill as he
conducts this interview. He vaguely alludes to a breakdown and institutionalization
and veers from topic to topic haphazardly. He doesn't actually seem all that interested
in the music biz these days and isn't afraid to say it either. Regardless, his
razor-sharp wit is still in fine form.

"I really couldn't care less about Soundscan anymore," he says. "I'm going for body
count. At this point it's only about prestige, it's the only way to have more. It doesn't
have to be kills... at least severely disturbing people."

The only new song on the Best Of is a vicious cover of Depeche Mode's "Personal
Jesus." After joking that he picked the song as a tribute to Dave Gahan's wife for
fellating him, Manson explains the song choice was about politics.

"It's symbolic of my career in that I found it to be more political and relationship-based
than religious," he says.

Politics and revolution, or perhaps the politics *of* revolution are still at the front of his
mind. Manson may joke about racking up body counts, but he probably has world
issues in better perspective than most people.

"I'm kinda famous for tearing up bibles and wiping my ass with the flag, so I don't think
it's any newsflash that I'm not big on American politics," he says. "Who's going to lead
the revolution? What is the revolution revolting against? [On song] 'Disposable Teens'
I was feeling the same things you're asking me — they say you want a revolution, I say
you're full of shit. I think it's the same. Nothing has changed. It's just a different colour."

Manson then equates Columbine with the Iraq War in one simple observation:

"I've had my grasp on morals for some time since my dad's experience [in Vietnam],
but also because I had to sit there and think 'Why is it OK that we're blowing the shit
out of some other country and two kids blow up a high school?'" he says. "What's the
difference? Because somebody says? At the end of the day it's all killing. You can
drive yourself crazy in circles going round about that but it's... it would take an hour at
least just to go down that path. I think art is your escape. That's what keeps me going."

—Aaron Brophy

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 20 September 2004 11:05 (twenty-one years ago)

---"It's symbolic of my career in that I found it to be more political and relationship-based
than religious," he says.

No shit! I thought it was about Jesus!

Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Monday, 20 September 2004 11:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Manson explains the song choice was about politics.

"Despite having more media coverage than pretty much any musician other than Britney Spears over the past five years, my only hit to date was an uber-obvious cover version. I figured lightening might hit twice"

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 20 September 2004 11:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Three times (you forgot "Tainted Love").

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Monday, 20 September 2004 11:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh yes, apologies.

Has he covered "Like A Prayer" yet?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 20 September 2004 11:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Hahaha no, largely because he isn't on Cleopatra Records.

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Monday, 20 September 2004 11:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Golden. What do you pick for a pull-quote? I'd go with "As long as someone's not charging quarters to look at my balls or something. That's what it can't be."

briania (briania), Monday, 20 September 2004 11:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Worked for Autechre.

adam. (nordicskilla), Monday, 20 September 2004 11:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Vicious Cover = sounds exactly the same...

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 20 September 2004 11:42 (twenty-one years ago)

I dunno, Briania. I think I'd go with this gem:

"You can
drive yourself crazy in circles going round about that but it's... it would take an hour at
least just to go down that path."

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 20 September 2004 11:44 (twenty-one years ago)

A lucrative second career as a sports commentator surely beckons.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 20 September 2004 11:49 (twenty-one years ago)

oh yes

latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 20 September 2004 12:14 (twenty-one years ago)

>he isn't on Cleopatra Records

Doesn't a best-of usually signal the waning days of a record contract? He might well be on Cleopatra, this time next year.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Monday, 20 September 2004 12:32 (twenty-one years ago)

If Marilyn Manson ends up on Cleopatra, Razed In Black is going to be PISSED.

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Monday, 20 September 2004 12:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Hopefully, he doesn't end up on a prestigious label like Cleopatra. I'm hoping he ends up on a fly-by-night nostalgia label such as Dressed to Kill or K-Tel Special Edition.
It's where he deserves to be.

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Monday, 20 September 2004 15:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I ALWAYS FEEL LIKE AN ODDITY = PLEASE, SOMEONE THINK OF ME AS AN ODDITY.

amateur!!st, Monday, 20 September 2004 15:13 (twenty-one years ago)

He's jealous of all the attention Courtney Love is getting. xpost times a billion i wager

Free the Bee (ex machina), Monday, 20 September 2004 15:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Marilyn Manson is very much a mainstream outsider but you all are really kidding yourselves if you don't think the vast majority of people don't see him as an outsider.

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Monday, 20 September 2004 15:18 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah but his ploys to cultivate that image are so pathetic

amateur!!st, Monday, 20 September 2004 15:19 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm waiting for the Desmond Child-assisted comeback

manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 20 September 2004 15:19 (twenty-one years ago)

marilyn manson:crazee outsider::george bush:downhome reg'lar "straight shooter"

amateur!!st, Monday, 20 September 2004 15:20 (twenty-one years ago)

w-w-w-wait you mean desmond child isn't already behind marilyn manson?! the world makes no sense.

amateur!!st, Monday, 20 September 2004 15:20 (twenty-one years ago)

god my manson/bush post verges on robin carm0dy territory

amateur!!st, Monday, 20 September 2004 15:21 (twenty-one years ago)

That analogy doesn't mean what you think it does, Am. (It's also incorrect.)

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Monday, 20 September 2004 15:21 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't even know who you are

Free the Bee (ex machina), Monday, 20 September 2004 15:22 (twenty-one years ago)

explain

amateur!!st, Monday, 20 September 2004 15:22 (twenty-one years ago)

haha xpost

amateur!!st, Monday, 20 September 2004 15:23 (twenty-one years ago)

What's the label that all the 80s metal bands fall back on, Sanctuary?

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 20 September 2004 15:23 (twenty-one years ago)

i'd be fine if i were proven wrong, it's not like i guard my opinions of marilyn manson closely or anything

amateur!!st, Monday, 20 September 2004 15:25 (twenty-one years ago)

What's the label that all the 80s metal bands fall back on, Sanctuary?

That or CMC.

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Monday, 20 September 2004 15:26 (twenty-one years ago)

1. Marilyn Manson acknowledges that image manipulation is a large part of his schtick; it's all over his interviews and apparent in the transformations he goes through from album to album as well as the overt plays to stylisim in his videos and stage performances. Bush does not.

2. Regardless, the people who buy into the image of one (meaning they see the image as genuine) will view your analogy as REINFORCING the sincerity of the images portrayed rather than REFUTING it.

3. Marilyn Manson manipulates stereotypes and images to push an ultimate message of tolerance and inclusion; George W Bush manipulates stereotypes and images to push an ultimate message of exclusion.

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Monday, 20 September 2004 15:27 (twenty-one years ago)

...and intolerance. Oops.

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Monday, 20 September 2004 15:29 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, i was gonna say: balance your sentences, perry!

amateur!!st, Monday, 20 September 2004 15:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Manson may joke about racking up body counts, but he probably has world
issues in better perspective than most people.

Fucking Chart.

Huk-L, Monday, 20 September 2004 15:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually, I kinda like the Razed in Black Cd I have.

ian g, Monday, 20 September 2004 21:51 (twenty-one years ago)

What's the label that all the 80s metal bands fall back on, Sanctuary?

Or Magna Carta.

Edward Bax, Monday, 20 September 2004 22:32 (twenty-one years ago)

this cliched freak is on the front cover of the new NME

http://microsites.nme.com/thisweek/img/cover_210904_L.jpg

DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 14:25 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm waiting for the Desmond Child-assisted comeback

...with additional songwriting and production by Jim Steinman...

Edward Bax, Wednesday, 22 September 2004 15:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Frankly, I'm waiting for the Destiny's Child-assisted comeback.

Je4nne ƒury (Jeanne Fury), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 15:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Jane Child!

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 15:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Stop making fun of my boyfriend. :(

Atnevon (Atnevon), Thursday, 23 September 2004 01:47 (twenty-one years ago)

MARILYN MANSON has told MTV.com that he prefers to call his upcoming greatest-hits collection,
"Lest We Forget: The Best of Marilyn Manson", "a farewell compilation."

"You get frustrated sometimes when you know that your heart is really buried in your art, and you know
more success equals being more mediocre," Manson said. "So you have to redefine success, and you can't
compete with people who don't do what you do. It's not really a 'greatest hits' because I was never really a
top-40 artist."

The deluxe edition of the album, due out Tuesday, features a bonus DVD containing all of Manson's
videos, including one that has never been seen before. The clip, for the song "(s)AINT", was directed by
actress Asia Argento — Manson's co-star in the upcoming film "The Heart Is Deceitful Above All
Things" — and was deemed too graphic by Interscope Records.

"I paid for it myself because I wanted it to be unfiltered and untampered with by the label. I want people to
see it uncensored," Manson said. "It is explicit. I tried to paint myself in the darkest portrayal of all my
darkest, lowest moments. It takes place in a hotel over two days, and the agreement between [Argento] and
me was that everything would be real. It was pretty graphic."

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 24 September 2004 10:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Marilyn Manson’s drummer injured in fall from stage at German show
BERLIN (AP) — Shock rocker Marilyn Manson’s drummer broke his wrist and suffered a slight concussion in a fall from the stage at an event in Germany, organizers said Saturday.
Drummer Ginger Fish was taken to a hospital in Cologne for treatment after the incident Friday night and was released Saturday, the Viva television channel said in a statement.
Fish, whose real name is Kenny Wilson, fell off the stage as the band performed a cover version of Depeche Mode’s Personal Jesus at an award ceremony at the city’s Koelnarena. It wasn’t immediately clear what prompted the fall.

Huk-L, Monday, 27 September 2004 17:52 (twenty-one years ago)

.. but Jesus was seen leaving the vicinity.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 27 September 2004 20:57 (twenty-one years ago)

why can't marilyn think of stuff like this:


By way of contrast, Reise, Reise's first U.S. single "Amerika" showcases a much lighter side of the Rammstein psyche,
while addressing much more universal subject matter. Directed by Jorn Heitmann (who helmed 2001's "Ich Will" and
"Sonne" clips), "Amerika" is a tongue-in-cheek affair, in which U.S. globalization and imperialism is portrayed by
Rammstein members on a moon landing that turns out to be a staged video production, juxtaposed with footage of
indigenous third world cultures chanting along with the "We're all living in Amerika" chorus--the ideal tone for a song that
successfully rhymes wunderbar with wonderbra. Alternately provocative and humorous, "Amerika" offers a fascinating
outside perspective on U.S. commercial and governmental policy.

scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 20:55 (twenty-one years ago)

he's not german, that's why.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 21:12 (twenty-one years ago)

why can't marilyn think of stuff like this
Because he doesn't do anything unless Skinny Puppy, Trent Reznor or David Bowie did it first. That's just how cautious Brian Warner is.

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Thursday, 30 September 2004 16:57 (twenty-one years ago)

"Because he doesn't do anything unless Skinny Puppy, Trent Reznor or David Bowie did it first. That's just how cautious Brian Warner is."

you forgot Gary Numan(78-80).

chimera, Thursday, 30 September 2004 17:30 (twenty-one years ago)

A bit off topic, but my God, how idiotic is Manson's "Personal Jesus!" He slavishly reproduces absolutely every drum break, every bit of harmony vocal; it's basically a karaoke version with some sampler hiss thrown in.

joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Thursday, 30 September 2004 17:35 (twenty-one years ago)

"my only hit to date was an uber-obvious cover version"

I'm not defending him or anything, but he's had a handful of videos on TRL. I'm pretty positive "Disposable Teens," "The Dope Show" and "Rock Is Dead" all made it on at some point, and "The Beautiful People" was pretty damn huge.

billstevejim, Thursday, 30 September 2004 17:55 (twenty-one years ago)

."

"You get frustrated sometimes when you know that your heart is really buried in your art, and you know
more success equals being more mediocre," Manson said. "So you have to redefine success, and you can't
compete with people who don't do what you do. It's not really a 'greatest hits' because I was never really a
top-40 artist."

"more success equals being more mediocre" = i am mediocre and will have no more successs
"redefine success" = no one wants to listen to my records anymore
"i was never really a top-40 artist" = must! start! lowering! expectations!

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Thursday, 30 September 2004 18:25 (twenty-one years ago)

maybe he'll pull a 1980s kiss move and get rid of the makeup and the wonky contact lens and release an album under his real name

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Thursday, 30 September 2004 18:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I was entertained reading his book, "The Long Hard Road Out of Hell."

shookout (shookout), Thursday, 30 September 2004 21:55 (twenty-one years ago)

maybe he'll pull a 1980s kiss move and get rid of the makeup and the wonky contact lens and release an album under his real name
...and then he'll be a sensitive balladeer, like Nick Drake.
Except he'll pretend to be a spooky Nick Drake.
and he won't overdose on antidepressants.
Unfortunately.

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Friday, 1 October 2004 01:58 (twenty-one years ago)

he actually, in the interviews i have seen with him, comes across as quite intelligent. I don't particularly care for his music, but that is more a reflection of my age I think.

Hell, I loved Ministry and AL was a walking joke.

hector (hector), Friday, 1 October 2004 02:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I love marilyn manson.

He's really good in a John Tesh kind of way.

David Allen (David Allen), Friday, 1 October 2004 03:20 (twenty-one years ago)

"Beautiful People" wasn't terrible.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Friday, 1 October 2004 04:01 (twenty-one years ago)

He's really good in a John Tesh kind of way.
Whua!?
Marilyn Manson:John Tesh::Count Grishnak:Yanni?

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Friday, 1 October 2004 05:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Does anyone else like that Goldfrapp remix?

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 1 October 2004 08:29 (twenty-one years ago)

four years pass...

http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=178753931&blogId=502274106

crossref w/ God bless the goddamn Onion

the original hypnagogic pop blogging crew (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 29 July 2009 17:57 (sixteen years ago)

Wait, what?

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 29 July 2009 20:15 (sixteen years ago)

Hahaha

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 29 July 2009 20:48 (sixteen years ago)

ilxor: this might help:

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/28771

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 29 July 2009 20:49 (sixteen years ago)

Haha, I've seen that, awesome. Not sure how it directly relates to his (admittedly lol-worthy) MySpace post. What spurred that one?

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 29 July 2009 21:36 (sixteen years ago)

Note where he says:

"I will personally or with my fans help, greet them at their home and discover just how much they believe in their freedom of speech."

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 29 July 2009 21:37 (sixteen years ago)

"HELLO AVERAGE PRESS MAN DO YOU BELIEVE IN FREEDOM NOW!"

http://www.theonion.com/content/files/images/onion_news1150.jpg

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 29 July 2009 21:37 (sixteen years ago)

apparently it was this article that inspired his rant:

It was Travis Keller’s strangest Christmas Eve on record; the writer and music know-it-all, whose merciless skewering of rock’s elite made Buddyhead the most loved and feared source of music criticism online, was enjoying the comfort of his couch, hanging out with a friend and watching some stupid holiday movies when the phone rang. “Can you get us some cocaine?” asked the voices on the other end. Keller was sober and declined. But it was Jeordie White and Marilyn Manson and they pressed on, urging Keller to come hang out anyway.

When Keller arrived in West Hollywood at the Le Montrose suite, Manson answered the door, nearly unrecognizable. The shock-rocker stood in the doorway, wearing a Von Dutch trucker cap — sideways — and a white shirt covered in stains, pulled over his beer belly. It was a far cry from the pancake makeup, flamboyant gothic attire or bondage gear associated with the frontman.

Keller busts into laughter as he retells the story, “I was like, ‘You’re Marilyn Manson?’ I remember thinking he’s going to come out with some kind of cape on. I’d never met him before and thought he’d be hanging out in a coffin. He’s nothing like that.”

Inside the suite, Keller recalls cocaine spilling off the kitchen counter while a superparanoid Manson ran around in circles repeating, “Travis, don’t try to fuck my girlfriend. Travis, don’t try to fuck my girlfriend.” The off-limits girlfriend was a certain young actress, then just 20 years old. “They called her ‘Snowflake’ because I guess when they played shows, she’d hold all the coke,” Keller claims.

While the rest of the party hoovered cocaine, Keller plugged his iPod into the stereo and cranked up Led Zeppelin. Manson told Keller he’d flown to the U.K. for the one Zeppelin reunion gig that November but got bored after the band played “Stairway to Heaven,” because it was the only song he knew. At that moment Manson may as well have painted a big, red target on his Von Dutch trucker cap. Keller exploded, “Poser! You’re in a rock band and you don’t know Led Zeppelin?”

He laughs. “Even my mom knows more Led Zeppelin songs than Manson. I wouldn’t let it die all night. I would turn on ‘Black Dog’ like, ‘Ever heard this song before, dork?’ The guy is a fucking retard."

He's a dilly through and through (unregistered), Wednesday, 29 July 2009 21:59 (sixteen years ago)

Keller really covers himself in glory there

the original hypnagogic pop blogging crew (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 29 July 2009 22:00 (sixteen years ago)

WOW.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 29 July 2009 22:06 (sixteen years ago)

I dunno that sounds like a really irritating party to be at, I would've turned on the assholishness too... altho why he went at all is kinda befuddling. coke parties, fuck that shit...

girlish in the worst sense of that term (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 29 July 2009 22:12 (sixteen years ago)

like how sad do you have to be to want to spend Xmas eve with a famous drug addled jerk you've never met

girlish in the worst sense of that term (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 29 July 2009 22:13 (sixteen years ago)

Dunno if I'd call Travis Keller famous exactly

the original hypnagogic pop blogging crew (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 29 July 2009 22:18 (sixteen years ago)

haha

girlish in the worst sense of that term (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 29 July 2009 22:22 (sixteen years ago)


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