Lyrical Cliches You Can't Stand

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Two bothering me of late -- I associate both with the 60s but I keep hearing them in other stuff:

1) Ending a line with "my friend" or "my friends" to imply profundity

2) Addressing a woman in a song as "little girl"

Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 1 October 2004 03:34 (nineteen years ago) link

I hate "I need you" (especially "I need you baby") and apparently so does Momus.

daavid (daavid), Friday, 1 October 2004 03:38 (nineteen years ago) link

"baby"

the surface noise (slight return) (electricsound), Friday, 1 October 2004 03:39 (nineteen years ago) link

"yeah"

the surface noise (slight return) (electricsound), Friday, 1 October 2004 03:39 (nineteen years ago) link

"little girl" = GOLD

Sonny, Ah!!1 (Sonny A.), Friday, 1 October 2004 03:39 (nineteen years ago) link

Are you more tolerant of these when they actually appear in music from the 60s or 70s, out of curiosity? I'm trying to work out whether I am.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Friday, 1 October 2004 03:47 (nineteen years ago) link

"in my mind" or "in my head." lame.

g--ff (gcannon), Friday, 1 October 2004 03:48 (nineteen years ago) link

"Are you more tolerant of these when they actually appear in music from the 60s or 70s, out of curiosity? I'm trying to work out whether I am."
Not really, but I guess I sort of shake my head and go "I guess that's just Jim Morrisson" or something like that.

Seriously, I hate it in 60s songs but it's even worse now because I think "Haven't we come further than that" and also it just seems even more contrived because it sounds like a rehash of something dated.

Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 1 October 2004 03:54 (nineteen years ago) link

" "in my mind" or "in my head." lame. "

OTM, and this one is ubiquitous, though admittedly I like "Blowin through the jasmine in my mind."

Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 1 October 2004 03:56 (nineteen years ago) link

throw your hands in the air, and wave them like you just don't care.

stfu already

jeremiah (jeremiah), Friday, 1 October 2004 05:22 (nineteen years ago) link

"can't you see?" is the biggest offender in my book.

Of course I can see, you idiot. You need to find better words in which to express your frustration!

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Friday, 1 October 2004 05:23 (nineteen years ago) link

That, or exclaiming that certain parts of one's body are "on fire."

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Friday, 1 October 2004 05:24 (nineteen years ago) link

USHER TO THREAD

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Friday, 1 October 2004 05:27 (nineteen years ago) link

I love "little girl"!

Cliches don't really annoy me in lyrics -- only in writing. I think they're kind of endearing in songs.

babyalive (babyalive), Friday, 1 October 2004 05:38 (nineteen years ago) link

throw your hands in the air, and wave them like you just don't care.
stfu already

And after the artist on stage does that bit enough times, the audience really does stop caring. They should then stop throwing their hands and start throwing bottles.

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Friday, 1 October 2004 05:59 (nineteen years ago) link

uh, I'm getting sick of "In the club" being in every song.

Brandon Biondo (twinkiebots), Friday, 1 October 2004 06:34 (nineteen years ago) link

The rhyming of Fire and Desire.
Especially when pronounced FYE-ya! and diz-EYE-ya!

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Friday, 1 October 2004 09:07 (nineteen years ago) link

Rhyming of "sixteen" (seventeen, eighteen etc.) with "(know, see) what I mean"

Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 1 October 2004 13:00 (nineteen years ago) link

"Self" rhyming with "shelf." Aargh.

Douglas (Douglas), Friday, 1 October 2004 13:08 (nineteen years ago) link

"Take my hand" paired with "understand".

"Do me right" or "do you right" as a euphemism for sex. At one point it seemed like every R&B / hip-hop song had to work this in, but the trend has died down.

Remember when every rapper had to "show and prove" or "drop science"?

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Friday, 1 October 2004 13:13 (nineteen years ago) link

I feel like it's a little different with hip-hop, because there's this sort of shared body of slang that everyone uses at a certain time. Using it is not always cliche, sometimes it's just speaking the language of the moment. But there is a fine line to walk I guess.

Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 1 October 2004 13:18 (nineteen years ago) link

Rhyming 'high' with 'fly'.

Wooden (Wooden), Friday, 1 October 2004 13:21 (nineteen years ago) link

Ooh! This one just hit me: Really long trains of lines that all end in "ation" words (relaxation/good vibration/entire nation etc.)

Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 1 October 2004 13:25 (nineteen years ago) link

"can't you see?" is the biggest offender in my book.

but the wailers' "can't you see" is one of the greatest singles evah. and, if memory serves, the marshall tucker band's "can't you see" isn't so bad either.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Friday, 1 October 2004 13:28 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm sick of the word "everybody" - how its inherent musicality (it has a built-in meter) gets exploited from song to song.

joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Friday, 1 October 2004 13:41 (nineteen years ago) link

"shelf" has only ever been used one time when it hasn't rhymed with "self/myself/yourself" and it was THIS YEAR, I thought I'd fall off my hobbyhorse

Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Friday, 1 October 2004 13:44 (nineteen years ago) link

It's always used really badly too -- what a half-assed metaphor. Maybe they should have rhymed other words like "elf" or "health" or "twelfth".

Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 1 October 2004 14:04 (nineteen years ago) link

but of course health and twelfth don't rhyme with either shelf or each other. "keith relf" would work, though.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Friday, 1 October 2004 14:08 (nineteen years ago) link

xposting myself:
The rhyming of Fire and Desire.
Especially when pronounced FYE-ya! and diz-EYE-ya!

Every year, at least one Eurovision entry contains this rhyme; it's the law. Probably some sort of EC directive. This year, they upped the quota to THREE. (Netherlands/Denmark/Greece.)

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Friday, 1 October 2004 14:08 (nineteen years ago) link

I'll second "in the club"

Patrick South (Patrick South), Friday, 1 October 2004 14:08 (nineteen years ago) link

If we're going with hip hop cliches -- I'd have to say when MCs talk about "What we do" or "how we do".

Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 1 October 2004 14:12 (nineteen years ago) link

MC cliches from days past:
catch wreck
flip da script
act like ya know
word is bond
etc etc

My least favoite lyrical cliche is 'poetic license' syntax awkwardness bullshit - when niggaz be talkin' like Yoda and shit

and I can't stand folksingers of the post-Palace age who intentionally throw something profane into an otherwise pretty song for apparently no reason whatsoever.

roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 1 October 2004 14:39 (nineteen years ago) link

Rhyming "girl" with "in the world"! Gah! Granted there's not a lot of rhymes there but that one gets used so much.

Vinnie (vprabhu), Friday, 1 October 2004 14:41 (nineteen years ago) link

Why must all pride be "foolish pride"?

briania (briania), Friday, 1 October 2004 14:43 (nineteen years ago) link

I think the very mechanism of the hip-hop simile (it's not a metaphor) is completely exhausted by now: "I [action] like [object that performs the same action in a different context]. Or its slight and even duller variation, "if [blank] were [blank] I'd be [superlative instance of [blank]]."

joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Friday, 1 October 2004 14:46 (nineteen years ago) link

"we made it" or "we're gonna make it"
Makin' It - Classic or Dud

dave225 (Dave225), Friday, 1 October 2004 14:52 (nineteen years ago) link

Or its slight and even duller variation, "if [blank] were [blank] I'd be [superlative instance of [blank]]."

or, as my grandmother used to say, "if my daddy was a choo-choo train, i'd be an engine." i think she was the original MC.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Friday, 1 October 2004 14:53 (nineteen years ago) link

the worst of all is a song beginning with


"woke up this morning". URGH. the next line should really be "decided to write a song".

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 1 October 2004 15:27 (nineteen years ago) link

"woke up this morning" songs:

-boston, "more than a feeling"
-bruce springsteen, "empty sky"
-that band that does that "sopranos" theme song

what else? there must be scores of others.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Friday, 1 October 2004 15:29 (nineteen years ago) link

The folk equivalent of "Woke up this morning" being "As I roved out one morning" - usually (ie all the time) "All in the month of May"

Didoismus (Dada), Friday, 1 October 2004 15:31 (nineteen years ago) link

"that band that does that "sopranos" theme song"

Alabama 3. From, er, Brixton.

Wooden (Wooden), Friday, 1 October 2004 15:32 (nineteen years ago) link

Another "woke up this morning": James Taylor, "Fire & Rain"

xpost: Alabama 3 was truncated to just "A3" for American consumption.

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Friday, 1 October 2004 15:33 (nineteen years ago) link

Rhyming "love" with "from above."

Talent Explosion (Talent Explosion), Friday, 1 October 2004 15:40 (nineteen years ago) link

THe worst song with a cliche in EVERY line has to be Des'Ree's goddawful "Life (Oh Life)".

Any more contenders to songs with them in every line, I'd like to hear it>

herbalizer12 (herbalizer12), Friday, 1 October 2004 15:52 (nineteen years ago) link

jesus that song truly is one of the worst records of all time.

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 1 October 2004 15:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Surely that bit about wanting some toast because you saw a ghost or some shit is far too bizarre to be a cliche

Michael Philip Philip Philip Annoyman (Ferg), Friday, 1 October 2004 15:58 (nineteen years ago) link

When ever I say something to my baby I make sure she knows that I don't mean maybe.

manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 1 October 2004 15:59 (nineteen years ago) link

When I ask where the party at I also wanna know where we're sipping bacardi at.

(when trying to think of an alternative my friend Jefferson recommended that I ask where we getting retardy at)

manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 1 October 2004 16:01 (nineteen years ago) link

Rhyming "dancin[g]" and "romancin[g]".

Salmon Pink (Salmon Pink), Friday, 1 October 2004 16:03 (nineteen years ago) link

something something yadda yadda about MEEEEEE
something something something about being FREEEEEEEEE

nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 1 October 2004 16:05 (nineteen years ago) link

"The lovelight in your eyes," people!

Rick Massimo (Rick Massimo), Friday, 11 November 2005 17:47 (eighteen years ago) link

_______ want to dance/________ took a chance
"hey, Mr. DJ"

Cunga (Cunga), Friday, 11 November 2005 17:57 (eighteen years ago) link

"love" and "turtle dove"


m0stly clean (m0stly clean), Friday, 11 November 2005 20:57 (eighteen years ago) link

146 posts, no scorn for waitin'/anticipatin'?

rogermexico (rogermexico), Friday, 11 November 2005 21:31 (eighteen years ago) link

Shivers up/down my spine.

StanM (StanM), Friday, 11 November 2005 22:24 (eighteen years ago) link

Anything about taking ones breath, losing one's breath, etc.

I always found this lyric to be especially egregious:

I can be your hero baby,
I can kiss away your pain
I will stand by you forever
you can take my breath away

Jesus, he falls back on the most tired cliche but still can't even make it rhyme properly or even work that well with the rhythm.

Hurting (Hurting), Saturday, 12 November 2005 05:11 (eighteen years ago) link

i kind of love it when paul stanley flips the cliche back on himself in "I was made for livin' you" and demands to know, "I can't get enough of you,baby, CAN YOU GET ENOUGH OF ME?"

umm, actually, Paul, we've all had more than enough, thanks for asking.

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Saturday, 12 November 2005 05:24 (eighteen years ago) link

"head in the clouds, feet on the ground" or the REALLY FUCKING PROFOUND CONVERSE "feet in the clouds, head on the ground" maaaaaaaaaaaaan.
-- tom cleveland (guitar68...), October 1st, 2004.
kylie "wouldn't change a thing"
this reminds me - if i had the chance to dit all again , i wouldn't chnge a single thing .
eg - hold me in your arms - rick astley , souterns sons.
tears fall like rain - glenn emdeiros, kiss

retroboy, Saturday, 12 November 2005 12:40 (eighteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
"i can't stop because i'm in love
and she's the only girl that i'm thinking of"

deeany, Tuesday, 6 December 2005 05:54 (eighteen years ago) link

oh dear i forgot the most egregious of cliches: the christmas song.

".... this time of year"
"families get together"
"warm by the fire"
"all i want for christmas is you"

blech

deeany, Tuesday, 6 December 2005 06:21 (eighteen years ago) link

Knowledge/college

Confounded (Confounded), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 12:24 (eighteen years ago) link

"If you get what you want but not what you need" someone kill me plz

joe schmoe (joeschmoe), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 14:33 (eighteen years ago) link

You cut me down a tree
And brought it back to me
And that's what made me see
Where I was going wrong

You put me on a shelf
And kept me for yourself
I can only blame myself
You can only blame me

And I could write a song
A hundred miles long
Well that's where I belong
And you belong with me

And I could write it down
And spread it all around
Get lost and then get found
or swallowed in the sea

You put me on a line
And hung me out to dry
And darling, that's when I
decided to go see

You cut me down to size
And opened up my eyes
Made me realize
What I could not see

And I could write a book
The one they'll say that shook
The world and then it took
It took it back from me

And I could write it down
And spread it all around
Get lost and then get found
And you'll come back to me
Not swallowed in the sea

And I could write a song
A hundred miles long
Well that's where I belong
And you belong with me

The streets you're walking on
A thousand houses long
Well, that's where I belong
And you belong with me

Oh, what good is it to live
With nothing left to give
Forget, but not forgive
Not loving all you see

All the streets you're walking on
A thousand houses long
Well, that's where I belong
And you belong with me
Not swallowed in the sea

You belong with me
Not swallowed in the sea
Yeah, you belong with me
Not swallowed in the sea

Take a bow, Mr. Martin.

Deluxe (Damian), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 14:43 (eighteen years ago) link

three years pass...

no one here has mentioned the dancefloor. i mean, give me a fucking break already. not that much interesting shit happens there.

musically, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 01:37 (fourteen years ago) link

and what's with all the LOVE SONGS, huh? why do all these people write songs about LOVE? why is THAT interesting? HUH?

thomp, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 01:44 (fourteen years ago) link

From an old Motown song:
"I'd rather go blind than to see you walk away"
(Excessive cellulite on the arse will do that to you....)
― ron critchlow, Friday, November 11, 2005 3:14 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^ can someone explain this joke to me

thomp, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 01:47 (fourteen years ago) link

blindness is preferable to having to look at someone's butt

musically, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 02:51 (fourteen years ago) link

"Love you long time" references have been played out and should be retired by now.

musically, Monday, 17 August 2009 02:55 (fourteen years ago) link

you should never rhyme heaven with "seven" or "eleven" anymore. I hate it literally every time

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 17 August 2009 02:56 (fourteen years ago) link

I love "dancefloor". Then again, "Vogue" and "Pump Up the Jam" are two of my all-time faves

claws of jungle red (Stevie D), Monday, 17 August 2009 03:18 (fourteen years ago) link

model/bottle couplets have really become the modern moon/june/spoon. really never a time that it doesn't annoy me.

some dude, Monday, 17 August 2009 03:23 (fourteen years ago) link

"Self" rhyming with "shelf." Aargh.

Wait, when does THIS happen?

cosmic abbigong (Abbott), Monday, 17 August 2009 20:27 (fourteen years ago) link

when taking your one off the other

blindness is preferable to having to look at someone's butt

― musically, Wednesday, August 12, 2009 2:51 AM (5 days ago) Bookmark

my god, what a terrible joke

thomp, Monday, 17 August 2009 20:29 (fourteen years ago) link

admittedly the guy who made it seems to have not posted since 2005, so i'm not sure why i'm so bothered

thomp, Monday, 17 August 2009 20:31 (fourteen years ago) link

•rain falling down
•tears falling down like rain

Never saw it fall up, nope.

"waiting/anticipating" OTM.

cliche in EVERY line has to be Des'Ree's goddawful "Life (Oh Life)".
Any more contenders to songs with them in every line, I'd like to hear it

IIRC, Bryan Adams' "Everything I Do, I Do It For You" might be a contendah.

staggerlee, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 00:09 (fourteen years ago) link

Lines/songs beginning with "sitting here" or "standing here" or some other such iteration

Eric H., Tuesday, 18 August 2009 00:17 (fourteen years ago) link

i would love to hear a song begin with "squatting here"

m0stlyClean, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 02:07 (fourteen years ago) link

...or even "crouching here"

m0stlyClean, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 02:07 (fourteen years ago) link

'Down on my knees' or some variation on that. Though, to be fair, I don't have a problem with it. I was listening to music on shuffle the other day and four songs in a row included it. One was

Prince - Dinner With Delores
'Damn, Delores, pick another subject please
Introduce the carpet 2 something other than your knees'

Another was, Steely Dan - Do It Again
'Then you love a little wild one
And she brings you only sorrow
All the time you know she's smilin'
You'll be on your knees tomorrow '

Both of which gave a unique spin to things. I'm sure there's half a billion examples of abuse.

Popture, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 04:09 (fourteen years ago) link

along the same lines as 'shivers/spine' upthread, there's also 'chill/bone', in which 'bone' usually rhymes with 'alone'.

The ubiquitous 'lovelight' was mentioned earlier as well, my favourite example of which must be "You didn't have to turn on the lovelight, whoa, it was on."

Daniel Giraffe, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 07:07 (fourteen years ago) link

Any song about human flight - "I believe I can fly", "I want to Fly away" etc...

Just ends up sounding like Orville.

dog latin, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 12:04 (fourteen years ago) link

Not sure that's such a bad thing

Aw naw, no' Annoni oan an' aw noo (Tom D.), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 12:20 (fourteen years ago) link

xp that would take out the absolutely wonderful "Tonight We Fly" by the Divine Comedy.

anagram, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 12:21 (fourteen years ago) link

the objective/selective/collective rhyme in that Soul II Soul track strikes me as very hackneyed

Daniel Giraffe, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 12:21 (fourteen years ago) link

Popture, those excerpts strick me as good uses of a cliche!

post-contrarian meta-challop 2009 (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 12:37 (fourteen years ago) link

"like a thief in the night"

:-(

Background Zombie (CharlieNo4), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 13:30 (fourteen years ago) link

"up against the wall"

musically, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 14:55 (fourteen years ago) link

Full or weird names used for purposes of crappy rhyme

"Jimmy Mack, when are you coming back?"

and ... others that escape me

ledge, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 15:03 (fourteen years ago) link

Sheena in "Funky Cold Medina"?

less attractive women need to make up for it in "garage" (clotpoll), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 16:26 (fourteen years ago) link

cliche in EVERY line has to be Des'Ree's goddawful "Life (Oh Life)".
Any more contenders to songs with them in every line, I'd like to hear it

How about Amazed by Lonestar;

Every time our eyes meet
This feeling inside me
Is almost more than I can take
Baby when you touch me
I can feel how much you love me
And it just blows me away
I've never been this close to anyone or anything
I can hear your thoughts
I can see your dreams

I don't know how you do what you do
I'm so in love with you
It just keeps getting better
I want to spend the rest of my life
With you by my side
Forever and ever
Every little thing that you do
Baby, I'm amazed by you

The smell of your skin
The taste of your kiss
The way you whisper in the dark
Your hair all around me
Baby you surround me
You touch every place in my heart
Oh, it feels like the first time, every time
I want to spend the whole night in your eyes

Hey mighty brontosaurus! (Boxing Kangaroo), Wednesday, 19 August 2009 16:41 (fourteen years ago) link

Songs I really like despite containing lyrical cliches I can't stand:

PJ Harvey - Rid of Me (fire/desire)
Fats Waller - Ain't Misbehavin (myself/shelf) (Oddly, it bothers in many other versions of the song)
Get Up Morning - Eddy Current Suppression Ring (songs about getting up in the morning).

bendy, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 18:40 (fourteen years ago) link

Realized today that "Eternal Flame" by the Bangles is composed almost entirely of cliches. Yet somehow the fantastic melody redeems it (and despite the incredibly awful singing, yet!) - I can't summon anything like the contempt it would seem to deserve.

staggerlee, Friday, 21 August 2009 04:21 (fourteen years ago) link

this stupid fucking Cage The Elephant song that's been a hit the last few months has a chorus that's pretty much back to back cliches:

There ain't no rest for the wicked, money don't grow on trees, I got bills to pay, I got mouths to feed, there ain't nothing in this world for free.
I know I can't slow down, I can't hold back though you know I wish I could, oh no there ain't no rest for the wicked, until we close our eyes for good.

best of the madmen slog (some dude), Friday, 21 August 2009 04:23 (fourteen years ago) link

reggae lyric cliches could have a thread of their own, but the one that always comes up is the school/rule rhyme, e.g. when I was a youth in school, me never take in the golden rule

Daniel Giraffe, Wednesday, 26 August 2009 11:46 (fourteen years ago) link

Use of "till the early morn" really really bugs me.

Peinlich Manoeuvre (NickB), Wednesday, 26 August 2009 11:50 (fourteen years ago) link

"till the early morn" is a classic imo, esp if rhymed w/ "break of dawn"

you might be a goole, but what's a goole to a goblin? (The Reverend), Wednesday, 26 August 2009 12:01 (fourteen years ago) link

Another one that always pisses me off is describing something/someone as being "sweeter than wine".

Hey mighty brontosaurus! (Boxing Kangaroo), Friday, 28 August 2009 21:47 (fourteen years ago) link

there's a "lies / eyes" in the little boots single that is only annoying me because it's the bit that spotify are playing me all the time

the cage the elephant ones aren't lyrical cliches, they're just truisms really - nb. i can't imagine that being a good song, though

thomp, Friday, 28 August 2009 21:59 (fourteen years ago) link

"…color tv"

naus, Friday, 11 September 2009 05:50 (fourteen years ago) link

They've definitely had their moments, but I could never hear Gucci and Louis Vuitton in another rap or r&b song and be perfectly happy.

send a hilarious message or make a "wild" statement (Whitey on the Moon), Friday, 11 September 2009 06:29 (fourteen years ago) link


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