Best and most effective damn dump on Zac I've ever read. Yow!
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 4 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 4 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
After that, classic. After I was out of high school and I went through various phases of elitism, I sort of forgot how classic. But I remembered eventually.
All of the last three albums are worth listening to, as albums, though if your tastes lean toward songwriting and "hard rock" rather than metal you'd probably prefer Down on the Upside and, moreso, Superunknown. But Badmotorfinger is a motherfucker.
Aside from that, late-career singles to search (I am very much counting on Maura to pop up and recommend early ones):
Badmotorfinger: Rusty Cage, Outshined, New Damage
Superunknown: Fell On Black Days, Mailman, Limo Wreck, The Day I Tried To Live, 4th of July
Down on the Upside: uh, I don't know most of these songs by name, and I don't have my CD with me, but the two singles (Blow Up the Outside World and Burden in My Hand) are good too. "Never the Machine Forever", maybe?
As a matter of fact, their a-sides record would be an excellent purchase if you want some Soundgarden but don't think you want a whole album.
― Josh Kortbein, Monday, 4 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― keith, Monday, 4 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
Soundgarden just couldn't top their masterwork, and "Down On The Upside" had some naff moments. Fortunately for us, their recorded output was capped off by the sublime "Boot Camp."
― Jack Redelfs, Sunday, 23 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― naked as sin (naked as sin), Saturday, 7 December 2002 00:42 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Michael Bourke, Saturday, 7 December 2002 01:45 (twenty-one years ago) link
― naked as sin (naked as sin), Saturday, 7 December 2002 15:12 (twenty-one years ago) link
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Saturday, 7 December 2002 16:33 (twenty-one years ago) link
But one thing I was taken with was during the bridge or somewhere in the middle of all the riffage in the middle is this pretty direct lift of a couple Jesus Christ Superstar themes which I never picked up on in 1992 for one reason or another... despite picking the very same themes up in Pegboy and Afghan Whigs records from the same year. Anyone else catch that?
― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 11 October 2004 19:01 (nineteen years ago) link
In any case, Soundgarden -- in their day (now many, many, many moons ago) -- were fucking **MASSIVE** , and a QUADRILLION LIGHT YEARS OF BROAD SWEEPING VAST DISTANCES better than their snivelling little pals in Nirvana. First saw them at L'Amour in Brooklyn (with Voi Vod and Faith No More) circa Louder Than Love and they blasted a new part in my hair. Great, great, great band .
big fans of Killing Joke, by the way.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 11 October 2004 19:09 (nineteen years ago) link
Soundgarden had their moments.
― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Monday, 11 October 2004 19:19 (nineteen years ago) link
I don't really see much of a point of comparison with Soundgarden and Nirvana anyway, other than they were both guitar rock bands from Seattle....Soundgarden has way more in common with the bands that Myonga just cited than Nirvana....
Also, I REALLY REALLY REALLY WISH I WOULD HAD BEEN AT THAT SHOW....christ what a lineup! I need to listen to some Voivod.
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 11 October 2004 19:22 (nineteen years ago) link
And yes, the show in question was godlike. Voi Vod had recently released Nothingface and FNM were promoting The Real Thing. And this was at a shitty, tiny little club. I was wearing a Dread Zeppelin shirt at the time, and Matt Cameron -- seemingly on his way out of the men's room during Voi Vod's set -- says "that's some funny, fucked up shit!". Yay.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 11 October 2004 19:40 (nineteen years ago) link
i had erased dread zeppelin from my memory until i read that. yikes! boy i bet that wouldn't seem as funny if i heard it now...
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 11 October 2004 20:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― kickitcricket (kickitcricket), Monday, 11 October 2004 20:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― Wooden (Wooden), Monday, 11 October 2004 20:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Monday, 11 October 2004 21:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Monday, 11 October 2004 21:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Monday, 11 October 2004 21:07 (nineteen years ago) link
I like 'em both just fine.
― Roy Williams Highlight (diamond), Monday, 11 October 2004 21:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― Mark (MarkR), Monday, 11 October 2004 21:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― Roy Williams Highlight (diamond), Monday, 11 October 2004 21:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 11 October 2004 21:24 (nineteen years ago) link
Actually, honestly, I guess Soundgarden were better than I ever give 'em credit for. If I'd never read a single interview with or article about them, I'd like 'em more than I do. (But still not as much as Sabbath or Zep, from whom they borrowed plenty despite their nonsensical denials.)
― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Monday, 11 October 2004 21:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 11 October 2004 21:29 (nineteen years ago) link
alex in nyc is officially the biggest crybaby on ILX.
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 11 October 2004 23:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 00:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― piers (piers), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 00:43 (nineteen years ago) link
How does merely stating a fact make me a crybaby?
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 00:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 02:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― lemin (lemin), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 04:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 04:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 11:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 21:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 21:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dr. Gene Scott (shinybeast), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 21:59 (eighteen years ago) link
I've never heard anyone else make the comparison, but Soundgarden's songwriting remind me a lot of early Traffic- stuff like "Mr. Fantasy" and "Forty Thousand Headmen"- in the lyrics, the dynamics and in Cornell's singing.
― bendy (bendy), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 22:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 22:29 (eighteen years ago) link
I wonder if "My Wave" was meant as a Yes rip, because it reminds me of part of "Ritual"...
― Deluxe (Damian), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 23:28 (eighteen years ago) link
Anyone know how much some of their rarer vinyl is worth? Such as:
Louder Than Live (yes, Live) on blue vinyl. Hands All Over promo single. Loud Love promo single. etc.
― Reatards Unite, Sunday, 24 August 2008 21:50 (fifteen years ago) link
Try completed listings on ebay -
http://cgi.ebay.com/SOUNDGARDEN-Louder-Than-Live-promo-12-blue-wax-punk_W0QQitemZ370061040886QQihZ024QQcategoryZ306QQcmdZViewItem
63 on ebay, can buy it mint on musicstack for 70.
― svend, Sunday, 24 August 2008 22:11 (fifteen years ago) link
Thanks, but how do you search for ebay completed listings?
― Reatards Unite, Sunday, 24 August 2008 22:22 (fifteen years ago) link
It is under advanced search, it requires you to sign in. If you don't have an account, google is pretty good for finding recent listings too.
― svend, Sunday, 24 August 2008 22:25 (fifteen years ago) link
try http://www.popsike.com/ too
― Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 24 August 2008 22:31 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.popsike.com/php/detaildata.php?itemnr=4873252359
― Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 24 August 2008 22:32 (fifteen years ago) link
The hell?:
The biggest highlight came when Morello introduced former Soundgarden members guitarist Kim Thayil, bassist Ben Shepard and drummer Matt Cameron. The three former bandmates took to the stage with none other than Tad Doyle, former frontman of TAD and current powerhouse singer for Brothers of the Sonic Cloth. He led the band through a three-song "Tadgarden" set that included a Soundgarden rarity and a classic.Doyle, who is good friends with the Soundgarden crew from their days as tour and labelmates on Sub Pop, sang a powerful rendition of "Nothing to Say" and delivered a scream-laden "Spoonman," which included Morello on rhythm guitar.It appeared as if a lot of the crowd, which was a mixture of old school grungers in their mid 30s to late 40s and younger Rage Against the Machine and Audioslave fans, didn't quite know what to make of Doyle.
Doyle, who is good friends with the Soundgarden crew from their days as tour and labelmates on Sub Pop, sang a powerful rendition of "Nothing to Say" and delivered a scream-laden "Spoonman," which included Morello on rhythm guitar.
It appeared as if a lot of the crowd, which was a mixture of old school grungers in their mid 30s to late 40s and younger Rage Against the Machine and Audioslave fans, didn't quite know what to make of Doyle.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 18:10 (fifteen years ago) link
lol that sounds pretty great, though i guess you would have had to sit through a tom morello solo show to see it?
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 18:13 (fifteen years ago) link
haha yes... and here i am stuck with tix to see cornell ;_;
― butt-rock miyagi (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 22:29 (fifteen years ago) link
Photos and more:
http://cherrycanoe.wordpress.com/2009/03/25/nothing-to-say/
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 22:37 (fifteen years ago) link
yep
― Hadrian VIII, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 14:34 (six years ago) link
yeah, and even a lot of the popular retro 70s-styled rock acts that plopped out after the turn of the century never had guys who could wail vocally, they were almost always working with a limited toolbox.
the weird tunings really opened up so many sonic possibilities. when I was learning guitar, Soundgarden were some of the earliest riffs I learned, and I remember learning "Mailman" and "4th of July" and how fun those were to play due to the really weird tunings and unusual finger positioning. always purposeful, like Mailman sounds so fat because the tuning has the A and D strings detuned and set to the same note so it's essentially fattening the high note of the octave, while the E string is detuned and serves as the low octave note. and the tuning allows you to have a Drop D type setup, fingerwise (only with a lower tuning and fatter sound).
― Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 14:41 (six years ago) link
yeah i didn't even know about something as routine as drop D until I learned "Outshined"
Badmotorfingers is also kind of more...psychedelic than I thought of them, like I dunno they are traditionally what I think of as a psych band but there's a sorta LSD vibe that hangs over it
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 14:58 (six years ago) link
They are def psychedelic. I remember the first things I read about them in the Melody Maker circa 91 referred to Thayil's "heavy karmic guitar".
― Shanty Brunch (stevie), Thursday, 29 June 2017 10:32 (six years ago) link
I said something about this way up thread, but they've always reminded me of a very heavy version of early Traffic - the shifting overcast-sky textures of the arrangements, riffs that are complex but not wanky, Cornell's pleading hooks.
― Mungolian Jerryset (bendy), Thursday, 29 June 2017 14:55 (six years ago) link
God yeah. They would have smashed Paper Sun.
― Shanty Brunch (stevie), Thursday, 29 June 2017 16:01 (six years ago) link
"Mind Riot" kinda felt like a precursor to some of the more atmospheric stuff they did on later albums
― Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Thursday, 29 June 2017 16:51 (six years ago) link
That Vedder video making the rounds is cathartic and sad:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2GcJ32m13Y
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 23 July 2017 14:10 (six years ago) link
they've always reminded me of a very heavy version of early Traffic
for your consideration, this challop (?) i found on the interweb:
'SG was always more Heart than Sabbath'
― j., Friday, 24 November 2017 18:34 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY5tDB9mp3cwhat a voice
― niels, Friday, 27 April 2018 09:42 (six years ago) link
OMG
― Lou Grant, the Iranian cinema of late '70s TV (stevie), Friday, 27 April 2018 09:54 (six years ago) link
heavy as fuckhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkPDK0m8Ir4
― corrs unplugged, Monday, 29 July 2019 11:03 (four years ago) link
Wow. Thanks for that.And for this:
/they've always reminded me of a very heavy version of early Traffic/for your consideration, this challop (?) i found on the interweb:'SG was always more Heart than Sabbath'
― U or Astro-U? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 29 July 2019 11:37 (four years ago) link
that whole new live album is great, some nice early jams on it. felt very very lucky to have caught one of those reunion shows in london - they were on amazing form.
― Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Monday, 29 July 2019 12:23 (four years ago) link
looking back at setlist only sad thing for me personally was no jesus christ pose https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/soundgarden/2012/o2-shepherds-bush-empire-london-england-53da9f5d.html
― Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Monday, 29 July 2019 12:25 (four years ago) link
new live album is immense. cornell's voice is so strong.
― SHANTY the golden fish portion (stevie), Monday, 29 July 2019 21:17 (four years ago) link
Yeah, I'm listening to the live album now and it's redeeming King Animal songs for me - I found that album incredibly forgettable at the time, but those tunes slot into an amazing set very well.
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Monday, 29 July 2019 23:07 (four years ago) link
it's a great album! worth spending time with!
― american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 29 July 2019 23:29 (four years ago) link
Bones Of Birds is one of their very best
― SHANTY the golden fish portion (stevie), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 11:33 (four years ago) link
Drown me riff 4 lyfe
― calstars, Saturday, 21 September 2019 02:32 (four years ago) link
nah slaves & bulldozers
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 21 September 2019 02:57 (four years ago) link
why choose
― the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Saturday, 21 September 2019 03:44 (four years ago) link
“Hands all over” a close second maybe
― calstars, Saturday, 21 September 2019 03:54 (four years ago) link
"Beyond the Wheel" is the tits
― When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Saturday, 21 September 2019 03:59 (four years ago) link
cosign on that too
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 21 September 2019 04:02 (four years ago) link
I miss Chris Cornell.
― Simon H., Saturday, 21 September 2019 04:26 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUqkDX0tnfM
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 21 September 2019 04:31 (four years ago) link
I will never regret buying the ticket to see him on a whim at some minor local festival (when I couldn't make Welcome to Rockville), as he was gone only a few weeks later. he seemed in good spirits and sounded great, with a lot of his power coming back.
oh, the other song that was a jam was "Room a Thousand Years Wide"
― When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Saturday, 21 September 2019 04:34 (four years ago) link
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, September 20, 2019 10:57 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
http://cfcy.fm/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2017/08/devil-horns-291x300.jpg
― The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 21 September 2019 12:56 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8hKsPtw4yY
was curious about this performance and just ended up watching it straight through. greatest band of all time
― american bradass (BradNelson), Sunday, 5 January 2020 12:08 (four years ago) link
I saw them on that tour. Gigantic performance, and one of the greatest large venue-concert experiences I can remember.
― Mule, Sunday, 5 January 2020 12:21 (four years ago) link
I was at that show. I'd flown home from Seattle, interviewing Mark Arm, that morning. It rained, and it was sublime. Cornell's voice just got better and better.
― Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Sunday, 5 January 2020 12:46 (four years ago) link
He wrote the best vocal melodies.
― Maresn3st, Sunday, 5 January 2020 14:02 (four years ago) link
Yeah that tour was awesome. I saw them the year prior in SF and they were on fire.
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 5 January 2020 15:18 (four years ago) link
Was reminded of this today:
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71ZmsBHcOtL._AC_SX679_.jpg
SOUNDGARDEN ROOKIE CARD!
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 23:46 (three years ago) link
Sad it's not the rare error card with Scott Weiland in a tutu
― Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 23:56 (three years ago) link
I'm gonna hitI'm gonna hit thatI'm gonna hit that upper deck and run
― call mr zbow that's my name that name again is mr zbow (Craig D.), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 23:58 (three years ago) link
XP But otoh you get Ben Shepard's photo and Jason Everman's credit.
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 00:10 (three years ago) link
no Hiro, no credibility for a rookie card
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 00:17 (three years ago) link
Everman’s incorrect credit - he was only in the videos and maybe toured the album. Hiro played on it and he’s pictured on the cover, for crying out loud!
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 09:09 (three years ago) link
I am pretty sure this was Jason's only studio contribution with SG:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpT4kgg5xlw
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 16:42 (three years ago) link
https://www.billboard.com/business/legal/soundgarden-vicky-cornell-resolution-unreleased-chris-cornell-songs-1235304525/
― dow, Tuesday, 18 April 2023 16:32 (one year ago) link
Sad it’s taken this long just to get close to getting these songs out.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 18 April 2023 19:24 (one year ago) link
Can't believe it's been almost six years. Wow.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 18 April 2023 19:35 (one year ago) link