What Is Rockism ?

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Have they really been together for 20 years?

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 13:16 (one year ago) link

Sounds like rockism is her weapon of choice for generation warfare. At the same time wishing for music that unites everyone by soundtracking our lives like Elton John.

Nabozo, Wednesday, 8 February 2023 13:17 (one year ago) link

Sounds like rockism is her weapon of choice for generation warfare. At the same time wishing for music that unites everyone by soundtracking our lives like Elton John.

I'm a rockist man

Burning out his fuse up here alone

I'm a rockist man

Auf Der Martini (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 13:21 (one year ago) link

the opossite of thinking pop music with dubious quality (taylor swift, beyonce, the weekend, drake...) is relevant: the opposite of rockism... and both wrong

CerebralCaustic, Wednesday, 8 February 2023 13:43 (one year ago) link

i miss the days when all new posters like this were considered to be a sock

imago, Wednesday, 8 February 2023 14:00 (one year ago) link

sockism

imago, Wednesday, 8 February 2023 14:01 (one year ago) link

lol

Auf Der Martini (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 14:14 (one year ago) link

it's more fun if you call them shit instead of not relevant - you'd be half wrong but have some courage in your own subjectivity

what's the rockism of appeals-to-relevance? it's a real thing and you can do it for or against rock or pop or whatever

your original display name is still visible (Left), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 14:49 (one year ago) link

It’s a far cry from previous decades, when artists like Elton John, Kate Bush and Phil Collins – who made music about grown-up concerns, which could be enjoyed by teens alike – soundtracked our lives. (It’s no surprise that this is the current state of pop in a country whose music industry is, according to the charts, propped up by a holy trinity of po-faced men: Ed Sheeran, George Ezra and Lewis Capaldi.)

I like Phil Collins but also it's very funny to use Phil Collins as an example here (and surely Phil is at least as po-faced as Sheeran, Ezra and Capaldi?)

soref, Wednesday, 8 February 2023 15:23 (one year ago) link

I want someone to write a take on rockism that explains how Phil Collins and Steely Dan were the two uncoolest things imaginable to rockist gen x-ers but are both loved by rockist millenials. I have no idea what zoomers think of them, if anything

soref, Wednesday, 8 February 2023 15:27 (one year ago) link

the early definitions on this thread are interesting in how diverse they are. what I'm getting is that rockism is a lot like fascism in how syncretic and incoherent it is and how many different guises can wear. someone could write a thing on ur-rockism like umberto eco did for fascism

your original display name is still visible (Left), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 15:38 (one year ago) link

"We wanted go back to the sound of just four guys in a gym."

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 16:13 (one year ago) link

i prefer 'whinerism'

CerebralCaustic, Thursday, 9 February 2023 00:02 (one year ago) link

Why don't we ask Freddie deBoer

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 February 2023 00:03 (one year ago) link

runner up: crypto-poptimists & crypto-rockists

CerebralCaustic, Thursday, 9 February 2023 00:06 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

Kelefa Sanneh, Robert Christgau, and Douglas Wolk are the sages quoted in this. 2024 rockism style. the battle never ends.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1c7Boc2CPMg

scott seward, Tuesday, 21 May 2024 16:50 (two days ago) link

Intergenerational!

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 21 May 2024 17:30 (two days ago) link

i will never watch one of that person's videos, not sure if that makes me pro or anti rockism

budo jeru, Tuesday, 21 May 2024 17:48 (two days ago) link

idk this person + they just said, "it's almost like the more critical your opinion is, the more valid it is" and i like that they're calling this out, especially in re:"flops." he isn't making this point outright, but my conclusion to be drawn from his points is that "rockism" is kind of anti-appreciation, unless a very strict set of arbitrary and ill-defined rules are in place. i like that being called out.

otherwise, good video. brings up relevant new examples to support the old anti-rockism tropes.

interstellar anthropologist+music philosopher, (Austin), Tuesday, 21 May 2024 17:53 (two days ago) link

it sucks people can’t write stuff down instead of requiring people to stare at their face while they talk at them

brimstead, Tuesday, 21 May 2024 17:59 (two days ago) link

that guy is okay. i actually enjoy his genre videos. he does good quick histories of things and he brings up examples that you wouldn't expect him to bring up. he makes good connections. he's more of a metal/punk person.

scott seward, Tuesday, 21 May 2024 18:12 (two days ago) link

He was less cringe inducing than most Talking to the camera guys

A So-Called Pulitzer price winner (President Keyes), Tuesday, 21 May 2024 18:18 (two days ago) link

it sucks people can’t write stuff down instead of requiring people to stare at their face while they talk at them

― brimstead, Tuesday, 21 May 2024 17:59 (forty-two minutes ago) link

taking an online course right now and the prof loves making videos and barely types anything up, there are times where i have to scroll through a 17-minute video to discover a class policy that would take me 10 seconds at most to find on a legit syllabus

intheblanks, Tuesday, 21 May 2024 18:45 (two days ago) link

unrelated to rockism i suppose but i also wish people wrote things down instead of making videos

intheblanks, Tuesday, 21 May 2024 18:46 (two days ago) link

We’re entering the post-literate society

Are you addicted to struggling with your horse? (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 21 May 2024 18:48 (two days ago) link

Writism

A So-Called Pulitzer price winner (President Keyes), Tuesday, 21 May 2024 18:49 (two days ago) link

Writing is the rockism of human comm

Are you addicted to struggling with your horse? (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 21 May 2024 18:49 (two days ago) link

One guy in a room with a typewriter

A So-Called Pulitzer price winner (President Keyes), Tuesday, 21 May 2024 18:51 (two days ago) link

So where's the thread for complaining abt video (audio to tbh) as preferred mode of communication? Ours is undoubtedly a civilisation in decline

Images of text too... What is the fucking deal? I get meme templates, at least I know where they originated, but wtf is up with images of small chunks of horribly formatted text?

corrs unplugged, Tuesday, 21 May 2024 19:50 (two days ago) link

hot medium/cool medium iirc

A So-Called Pulitzer price winner (President Keyes), Tuesday, 21 May 2024 19:53 (two days ago) link

i just heard about civilization in decline on a vid by plato, why do new school kids need to have one name all the time

well below the otm mendoza line (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 01:27 (yesterday) link

we do have this fwiw

Music Criticism in Video Form

budo jeru, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 02:27 (yesterday) link

ah yeah forgot about that one.

scott seward, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 02:27 (yesterday) link


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