Just make it 60 mins and we can declare Boris - Absolutego and Corrupted - El Mundo Frio the winners now.
― Eric Burdon & War, On Drugs (Cosmic Slop), Tuesday, 10 February 2015 15:56 (nine years ago) link
big ups to my mans Morton Feldman
― example (crüt), Tuesday, 10 February 2015 15:57 (nine years ago) link
with BT in 3rd place
― Eric Burdon & War, On Drugs (Cosmic Slop), Tuesday, 10 February 2015 15:57 (nine years ago) link
oh wait nm no classical
jfc just let everyone vote for whatever they want and see what happens. that will make for the most interesting set of results anyway.
― Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 16:00 (nine years ago) link
does terry riley count as 'classical'?
― let me be your fan taytay (NickB), Tuesday, 10 February 2015 16:01 (nine years ago) link
of course
― Eric Burdon & War, On Drugs (Cosmic Slop), Tuesday, 10 February 2015 16:03 (nine years ago) link
if its just a poll on unusually long tracks then perhaps it should be 20+ mins
― Eric Burdon & War, On Drugs (Cosmic Slop), Tuesday, 10 February 2015 16:10 (nine years ago) link
Is there a top limit? (asked The Flaming Lips...)
― Mark G, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 16:12 (nine years ago) link
the minimum & maximum is 4:20
― example (crüt), Tuesday, 10 February 2015 16:13 (nine years ago) link
Uh, do live versions count?
― kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 16:23 (nine years ago) link
the higher the maximum the more chance jam bands will be the dominant rock form! Phish and Grateful Dead are finally taking over ilx!
― Eric Burdon & War, On Drugs (Cosmic Slop), Tuesday, 10 February 2015 17:24 (nine years ago) link
You bastards, I'm just going to poll 4'33" now.
― Hollinger Escape Plan (Leee), Tuesday, 10 February 2015 17:48 (nine years ago) link
first ten to fifteen seconds >>> middle four minutes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> last ten to fifteen seconds
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 19:49 (nine years ago) link
you guys aren't still discussing epics poll, are you
― daavid, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 20:27 (nine years ago) link
discussion of epics poll must be limited to 15 minutes
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 20:31 (nine years ago) link
the length of an epic should be polled first
― droit au butt (Euler), Tuesday, 10 February 2015 20:35 (nine years ago) link
FYI, the Italo poll is officially done.
― daavid, Thursday, 12 February 2015 21:27 (nine years ago) link
So, this is kinda gay but has ILM ever done a divas poll?
― Eric H., Thursday, 12 February 2015 21:36 (nine years ago) link
which poster is the biggest diva on ilm poll? Can just imagine the fun on that nomination thread.
― Eric Burdon & War, On Drugs (Cosmic Slop), Thursday, 12 February 2015 21:40 (nine years ago) link
lex
― Eric H., Thursday, 12 February 2015 21:54 (nine years ago) link
Hey guys I'm sorry but I won't be able to run the Extreme Metal poll, school is just to intense right now. Maybe lex wants to run it? ;)
― Frobisher, Sunday, 15 February 2015 16:51 (nine years ago) link
Of course, pfunkboy and scik mouthy are free to take my spot and do their all-time poll if they want! If that works with everyone...
― Frobisher, Sunday, 15 February 2015 17:00 (nine years ago) link
Who decides what metal is "Extreme"? Does Ozzy count? How about Slayer? We are going to need to discuss this at length.
― kornrulez6969, Sunday, 15 February 2015 18:01 (nine years ago) link
we need to poll whether we should discuss that at length
― droit au butt (Euler), Sunday, 15 February 2015 18:03 (nine years ago) link
Epic Extreme Metal
― Dinsdale, Sunday, 15 February 2015 18:17 (nine years ago) link
THIS IS NOT AN EPICS POLL: The 10+ minute long nominations thread, ILM Ballot Poll #58
― Godsleee You Black Emperor (Leee), Sunday, 1 March 2015 03:15 (nine years ago) link
Somewhere in our hearts, results won't be the same (Spacemen 3 & etc. ballot results - ILM poll #57)
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 11:30 (nine years ago) link
THIS IS NOT AN EPICS POLL -- classical nomination supplemental thread (ILM Ballot Poll #58)^^ Accepting classical ("classical") nominations now.
― Romo... ROMO! Bring Back Sergio Romo! (Leee), Thursday, 5 March 2015 19:17 (nine years ago) link
so you guys had a whole thread to argue about what was being polled and that turned out so badly you had to make a second one?
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 5 March 2015 19:18 (nine years ago) link
It was fine mostly, I just want to get rid of one sticking point and don't have mod privileges to change the top most and this was the most visible way to let people know.
― Romo... ROMO! Bring Back Sergio Romo! (Leee), Thursday, 5 March 2015 19:27 (nine years ago) link
The no classical rule was there mostly because I didn't want to listen or deal with Xenakis. Sigh.
― Romo... ROMO! Bring Back Sergio Romo! (Leee), Thursday, 5 March 2015 21:14 (nine years ago) link
Have we ever had a ballot with more than 20 entries? How are the points distributed for, say, a 50-item ballot?
― Romo... ROMO! Bring Back Sergio Romo! (Leee), Wednesday, 11 March 2015 17:54 (nine years ago) link
it's not complicated you just adjust the points scale (no. 1 gets 50 points, no. 50 gets 1 point, etc.)
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 March 2015 17:55 (nine years ago) link
this is why you lay out how you're going to assign points at the outset, and how long a ballot you will accept
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 March 2015 17:56 (nine years ago) link
here's a dropbox link to the spreadsheet template I use.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/wtyvbozifqfrtvn/ballot%20poll.xlsx?dl=0
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 March 2015 17:58 (nine years ago) link
SORRY, DAD.
― Romo... ROMO! Bring Back Sergio Romo! (Leee), Wednesday, 11 March 2015 18:14 (nine years ago) link
To answer your first question - yes we have, though not often. Justified in this case IMO. Epics poll => epic length ballots. I'd also welcome a stupidly epic points assignment, e.g. 999 points for your #1, 500 for #2, 250, 200, 150, 145, 140 etc. (or something)
― Jeff W, Wednesday, 11 March 2015 19:50 (nine years ago) link
yr welcome. now go to your room
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 March 2015 20:06 (nine years ago) link
I used a floating Pazz & Jop-type point system for Neil Young--how many points you had to work with depended upon how large your ballot was--with ballots of up to 50 songs. It was quite needlessly complicated.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 11 March 2015 22:47 (nine years ago) link
It was my Blur poll that resulted in this never-ending list being drawn up a few years ago. That poll had 22 spots on the ballot and some of the subsequent ones did too, but it's been tidied up to 20 in most of them.
― (Meme From) Essex Press (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 11 March 2015 22:50 (nine years ago) link
More than a month later and the "epics" poll hasn't even started and the s3 results rollout is proceeding at the rate of one a day. Lol @ this being preceded by the discussion about keeping things moving along at the rate of one poll every couple of weeks.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 12 March 2015 16:38 (nine years ago) link
Right? The plot is entirely lost.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 12 March 2015 16:53 (nine years ago) link
The no classical rule was there mostly because I didn't want to listen or deal with Xenakis. Sigh.― Romo... ROMO! Bring Back Sergio Romo! (Leee), Thursday, 5 March 2015 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
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The truth comes out ;-)
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 12 March 2015 17:05 (nine years ago) link
someone could just start the next poll then!
― droit au butt (Euler), Thursday, 12 March 2015 17:17 (nine years ago) link
bring on CCR
― droit au butt (Euler), Thursday, 12 March 2015 17:19 (nine years ago) link
the next poll on the list is actually Yo La Tengo/Dump (Clemenza). I would happily tell him to get started if I didn't think people would complain about too many polls going on at once. The "epics" thing has turned into a clusterfuck (just as I predicted) and yet people seem to be enjoying arguing about it and it's not like I can shut it down (much as I would like to), nor can I make Elvis Telecom roll out his results any faster. But at this rate things are gonna be bogged down for awhile.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 12 March 2015 17:21 (nine years ago) link
Oh yes! (xp)
― Walking Close to Melton Mowbray (Tom D.), Thursday, 12 March 2015 17:24 (nine years ago) link
eh I say let's start another. ILM seems very low on chat lately; polls at least present a reason to talk. and I'm not into the current polls for one reason or another
― droit au butt (Euler), Thursday, 12 March 2015 17:24 (nine years ago) link
also dunno where Leee's getting his poll numbering from - the epics poll is no. 64 (Spacemen 3 is no. 63).
current list:63. Spacemen 3 and related acts - Elvis Telecom (link: Everybody I know can be POLLED here: The Spacemen 3, Spectrum, Spiritualized, and descendants poll thread (ILM Artist Poll Thread #57))64. “Epics” - Leee (link: THIS IS NOT AN EPICS POLL: The 10+ minute long nominations thread, ILM Ballot Poll #58)65. Yo La Tengo/Dump - Clemenza66. The Boo Radleys - Bee OK67. Emo/Screamo/Mallcore/(post)Hardcore - Mordy68. Creedence Clearwater Revival - crüt69. Hard Rock/Hair Metal - how’s life70. Extreme Metal - Viceroy71. Stephin Merritt - Gukbe72. Metallica - Pleasant Plains73. Spoon - Bee OK74. Nirvana - Gavin, Leeds75. Fairport Convention et al (R Thompson, S Denny) - Billy Dods76. Queen - charlie h77. Can - Z S78. Tom Petty - rogermexico79. Ramones - tipsy mothra (finished)80. Jimi Hendrix - some dude81. Stereolab - Moka82. Bauhaus/Tones on Tail-Love and Rockets/Peter Murphy - Bee OK83. Genesis + solo - NickB84. The Smiths - nate woolls85. Pearl Jam - VegemiteGrrl86. The Burt Bacharach songbook - C. Grisso/McCain87. Dead C - Raymond Cummings88. Royal Trux + side projects - sleeve89. John Fahey - Naive Teen Idol?90. Rush - Matt #291. Oasis - pollrunner needed for this one92. George Michael - Ismael Klata93. Talking Heads - Bee OK94. Gamble & Huff/Philly International Records - jetfan95. Van Halen - Johnny Fever96. Billy Joel - Doctor Casino97. Low - aldo98. Nine Inch Nails - chap99. REM - rogermexico.100. Bjork - Eric H.101. Wu-Tang Clan - Spottie102. Shoegaze/Dream Pop/Post-rock (Albums and EPs) - Bee OK103. Covers - kornrulez6969104. New Pornographers/AC Newman - staggerlee105. They Might Be Giants - Johnny Fever106. No Wave - sarahell107. DFA - Van Horn Street108. Misfits/Samhain/Danzig - gr8080109. Beatles solo careers - Οὖτις110. Erykah Badu - Eric H.111. Nick Cave/Bad Seeds/Birthday Party/et al - charlie h112. Herbie Hancock - crüt113. Aphex Twin - Stevie D114. Blondie - Bee OK115. Electroclash - soref116. Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis - Spottie117. Siouxsie & the Banshees/The Creatures - LeRooLeRoo118. AM Radio Gold - Jeff W119. Eurovision - nxd120. Steve Albini - nate woolls121. Yellow Magic Orchestra - frogbs122. Elvis Presley - Euler123. Byrds + offshoots - kornrulez6969124. Cardiacs + affiliated - imago125. Tropicalia/MPB - Frederik B126. Chic Organization - 127. Stooges/Iggy Pop -
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 12 March 2015 17:24 (nine years ago) link