Mr. Show with Bob and David: Genius or Overrated?

Its not about toxic masculinity and it pretty much is a right wing screed

No more than the average violent yarn. I haven't heard of one conservative giving a shit about it, which in this climate is as good an indicator as any.

indefinitely? I don't think he has any projects going on so why would it need to come up?

well, he's at least a regular voice on Bob's Burgers as Jimmy Pesto and they have aired new episodes featuring his voice work without interruption after this broke in March.

that was supposed to be a block quote, oops

I've been wondering what happens if he somehow avoids charges and how long the people in that circle of comedy can avoid talking about it.

― Chris L, Friday, June 25, 2021 7:19 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

Andy Kindler and Sam Seder, who both also do voices on Bob's Burgers, have talked about it publicly and were pretty sure it was Jay in the photos.

Bob's Burgers episodes would have had their voice tracks recorded last year (if not earlier). If Johnston is not charged and his character is dropped from future seasons, that seems to be an appropriate implicit statement from the producers.

I've been wondering what happens if he somehow avoids charges and how long the people in that circle of comedy can avoid talking about it.

Adding to Daniel's point, if cast member PFT and writer Scott making jokes last month about 'attending the Mr Show reunion on 1/6 in Washington DC' count as avoiding talking about it, what else do you expect them to say?

I was skeptical on the basis of the photographic evidence but it appears there is also video, and well...

does he show up at a particular moment, in this 12-hour-long phone video, that we should skip to or

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Yes, he's hiding in the background of every shot, like Waldo!

Or it appears that timestamped YT links do not embed as they should. Advance to six minutes & 45 second into the video.

So much analysis of David Cross' personality here, heh. The Subpop CD was classic standup to me, but I stopped paying much attention after that. Aside from the bit about eating gold foil, the one about racist zombies seems like it was also quite rich. Although if I listened to it now, his liberal (sarcastic, but still) use of the N-word might ruin it.

Overall though I think he's a well-meaning guy, not nearly in the league of smug bitterness as Bill Maher. Cross reminds me very much of friends who were picked on a lot as kids, never had much of a support network, and who developed alcohol dependency as adults. That alcoholic perpetual bitterness is pretty distinctive IMO.

yea Cross is definitely better than Maher but his first 2 CDs (which I listened to endlessly in college) irritate me now because the targets he picks on are so easy. way to stick it to the guy from Creed, dude. also once you notice that he uses "fuck" a ton as a filler word you can't unhear it. still I think he gets some credit, "It's Not Funny" was the first post-9/11 set from a major comedian to really go all in on Bush wasn't it? nah, I'm probably missing something.

I will share what I know when I can but Bob is one of the strongest people I know both physically and spiritually. He WILL get through this.

— david cross✍ (@davidcrosss) July 28, 2021

Collapsed on set if I’m reading this correctly?

Better Call Saul

first comment on that seems to imply Odenkirk has cancer; is that something that is rumored or known? Or is that just typical twitter hyperbole making personal a situation about something entirely different>?

(first comment under David Cross' tweet)

Nah, that's not the sense I got, nor did I get the impression the commentator was privy to anything we don't know. I got the impression the commentator was simply saying that physical and spiritual strength can only carry you so far.

wishing him the best. he just went through a complete body overhaul for Nobody into action figure physique, so i presume they did a fair amount of blood work, etc while he was getting in shape and the fact that it's apparently unclear what the problem is makes it sound pretty serious.

welp: https://www.thedailybeast.com/actor-jay-johnston-banned-from-bobs-burgers-over-capitol-riot

Everest his earned goodwill and the thimbles his career now.

"banned" huh

It is a bit of a drag that Fox makes quite a few shows I like as ultimately giving any money to these motherfuckers is wrong.

Pretty much if the Simpsons had not have happened, would ANY of this Murdoch media shit gotten off the ground? Fox TV was circling the drain and pretty much the success of the Simpsons snowballed which gave them money to buy the NFL contract which snowballed into the news network.

But hey man, fight the fight I guess.

yup... i've been very quick to find any off-ramp for Fox/FX/etc programming I start to enjoy.

AT&T (HBO, TBS etc.) funds OANN, so it's not much different elsewhere.

The Simpsons killed democracy

I mean...it's legit to boycott Fox, but they're Disney now, and Fox News is a completely separate entity at this point. So Murdoch isn't gonna feel your sting, I'm afraid.

The regular Fox TV network isn't with Disney, who couldn't buy them because they already own ABC.

'80s-->'90s Fox was wild: Simpsons; Married...With Children; 21 Jump St.; In Living Color; Martin; 90210

Cops; America's Most Wanted

Werewolf

Herman's Head

The greatest show ever:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woops!?wprov=sfti1

X Files

Get a Life!

Action, with Jay Mohr.

lol that it took this long

NEW: Jay Johnston — of Mr. Show, Arrested Development, The Sarah Silverman Show, Bob's Burger's, and Anchorman fame — has been arrested in connection with the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol. https://t.co/HdHbVwISOk

— Ryan J. Reilly (@ryanjreilly) June 7, 2023

Talk about something not being on your bingo card (or at least, not before Jan. 6). I can only imagine how I would have reacted to this prediction back in the late '90s.

How could you think that this was a coup??!!

Idiot!

Talk about something not being on your bingo card (or at least, not before Jan. 6). I can only imagine how I would have reacted to this prediction back in the late '90s.

Not just famous, respected actor! Mr. Show begot Emmy nominations, federal indictments, and the voice of Spongebob.

Not sure which part of “Mr. Show actor arrested in coup attempt by President Donald Trump, who was defeated by Joe Biden” would have surprised me most back then

THR has obtained a photo of Jay Johnston from a party last October in which he appeared to be dressed as the so-called "Qanon Shaman," who previously pled guilty to storming the Capitol on Jan. 6

https://i.imgur.com/slxf9PS.jpg

Odenkirk's range is insane. he was so good playing a ditzy hunk lawyer on Seinfeld. and then a porn star on Curb. actually I really admire how a dude who's so naturally funny was willing to be the straight man so often.

not a lot of evidence these days that the arc of the universe bends towards justice, but Bob Odenkirk got to star in a prestige drama where he could show off his full range, develop it further, and get numerous accolades for it.

he also got to be on Dr. Katz a couple times

xp and he got to cheat death recently.

and got to make his own John Wick movie

Nobody was so much fun

Meanwhile, David Cross just gets to sit around collecting Alvin and the Chipmunk movie residuals while hoping no one brings up the fact that he used to be best friends with Gavin McInnes.

it's pretty wild to imagine that one of the greatest TV dramas ever made was nearly forced to just end on a massive cliffhanger because one of the Mr. Show guys had a heart attack

They could have just replaced Bob with David. No one would have noticed.

Good find, somebody:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBsRvdHJUDk