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I thought the first episode was pretty good. I'm going to give it eight out of ten

paolo, Monday, 9 February 2015 19:17 (seven years ago) link

I'm curious what the dramatic arc of the show is going to be, considering that Walt fucked up a relatively stable criminal ecosystem. Tuco and Gus and Saul were all pretty established and safe in their power. I like the idea of the show as a sort of perverted Matlock, where Saul defends a series of mostly guilty people, but I'm not sure if that's what we're going to get.

polyphonic, Monday, 9 February 2015 19:32 (seven years ago) link

I loved the comedy of it all, the way things were filmed fit that style perfectly. But if it becomes more dramatic, I'm not sure I will care.

Frederik B, Monday, 9 February 2015 19:38 (seven years ago) link

cold open cinnabon was the best part

johnny crunch, Monday, 9 February 2015 19:51 (seven years ago) link

if this were actually good, what a coup . . .

rip van wanko, Monday, 9 February 2015 20:55 (seven years ago) link

it's a little goofy that he's doing exactly what he speculated he might be doing in his new life

I don't see this amounting to a hell of a lot but I'll prob enjoy it for a season or so.

k3ller of sh1p (wins), Monday, 9 February 2015 21:31 (seven years ago) link

but better call saul's a prequel, right? so that means in the last bit of breaking bad he was referring back to something that he used to do.

Karl Malone, Monday, 9 February 2015 21:34 (seven years ago) link

it's not exclusively a prequel. The first thing we see is chronologically after BB

polyphonic, Monday, 9 February 2015 21:35 (seven years ago) link

xp haha no, that would be even sillier! "for my expensive new identity I'm just gonna go back to my old job"

k3ller of sh1p (wins), Monday, 9 February 2015 21:38 (seven years ago) link

actually no it would make more sense, you're right. But it's a flash forward in BCS

k3ller of sh1p (wins), Monday, 9 February 2015 21:41 (seven years ago) link

it's a little goofy that he's doing /exactly/ what he speculated he might be doing in his new life

I like the idea of him being 100% committed to a plan he made in haste. It just fits his character so well!

naus, Monday, 9 February 2015 21:42 (seven years ago) link

I still haven't had a chance to watch yet. Tonight!

Karl Malone, Monday, 9 February 2015 21:45 (seven years ago) link

Nah, it's silly. He probably couldn't choose, it's just tossed off line he throws off. Too much fan service for my taste. The ending with Tuco annoyed me as well. But inbetween, there was loads of good stuff.

Frederik B, Monday, 9 February 2015 21:46 (seven years ago) link

I just took it as a joke/fan service, cause why not? I mean within minutes of starting his first jape he's ended up at __________ (removed for karl)

xp nevermind haha

k3ller of sh1p (wins), Monday, 9 February 2015 21:47 (seven years ago) link

"it's a little goofy that he's doing exactly what he speculated he might be doing in his new life"

I kinda took it was a business and ID that Saul had created in case anything got to hot, which it did. If I remember right, the scene when Saul tells Walter about Omaha and the Cinnabon is with "the cleaner" held up in that basement waiting to move on to next step.

earlnash, Monday, 9 February 2015 23:29 (seven years ago) link

I didn't even recognize tuco until I saw it mentioned somewhere else. there are bound to be things that this that will happen and I don't see why they shouldn't.

akm, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 05:01 (seven years ago) link

Anyone notice the little hat tip to the Wire in the courtroom scene? not sure if it was intentional or not.

oi listen mate, shut up (dog latin), Tuesday, 10 February 2015 08:22 (seven years ago) link

Two associates of Jimmy coincidentally bumping into Tuco's mother (?) is not something that was 'bound' to happen, at least not on their very first day working together. It's an extremely big contrivance, just as it's a contrivance that Saul could have guessed/known/planned exactly what he would be able to do after the cleaner took over.

But so what, right? Well, for me, it takes the mystery out of the characters. The world of Breaking Bad was filled with mystery and danger at the beginning, but they really really killed that over the years. When Krazy-8 was killed, even crazyer Tuco took his place. When Tuco was killed, those weird cousins were sent to avenge him. And this mysterious guy from Chile who sold chicken seemed also involved somehow. But then the entirety of the cartel was nice enough to gather around and be poisoned by a single bottle of tequila, it turned out Gus was mainly motivated by the murder of his friend years ago, and the shadowy involvement of multinational companies in the drugdistribution? Turned out it was a rogue housewife, but nevermind, she had a bad cup of tea as well.

The whole world became so small and neat over the years, that it damaged my interest in it. And now you can't skate on the streets of Albuquerque without running into the Salamanca-family? How small is this city?

Frederik B, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 08:53 (seven years ago) link

eh, i dunno, i don't see it as a problem thus far. so long as it doesn't turn into a 'league of extraordinary gentlemen'-style thing where all they do is give familiar characters walk-on parts. if this is a prequel, i expect to find out how Jimmy becomes Saul, how he meets Mike and why he decides to become a criminal lawyer. Tuco was one of my favourite characters in BB and it' shame he only lasted a handful of episodes, so bringing him back into the frame is a great idea in my book.

oi listen mate, shut up (dog latin), Tuesday, 10 February 2015 09:10 (seven years ago) link

tuco's gun is comically large

Clay, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 09:20 (seven years ago) link

that's what she... oh never mind

oi listen mate, shut up (dog latin), Tuesday, 10 February 2015 10:05 (seven years ago) link

Lydia wasn't a "rogue housewife"

k3ller of sh1p (wins), Tuesday, 10 February 2015 10:42 (seven years ago) link

yeah, this was pretty good. i really liked that there wasn't much expository dialogue - the characters' interactions were enough to fill in the blanks.

i wonder if the black and white photography in the omaha sequence was a deliberate homage to / joke about alexander payne's nebraska?

bizarro gazzara, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 10:44 (seven years ago) link

were the flash forwarded sequences in BB b/w?

oi listen mate, shut up (dog latin), Tuesday, 10 February 2015 10:49 (seven years ago) link

Did 'Chuck' ever get mentioned in BB? I take it he's Jimmy's brother? Or uncle?

oi listen mate, shut up (dog latin), Tuesday, 10 February 2015 10:50 (seven years ago) link

So glad this isn't just a knockabout sitcom about a hapless lawyer though. I was always a Saul agnostic when he was in BB as he stood right on the edge between comic foil and slapstick sitcom buffoon. Plus it took me ages to stop thinking of him as Gob in Arrested Development, but as a lawyer instead of a magician. I like how Jimmy cuts a bittersweet, really quite dualised and tragic figure. One minute he's walking around in his suit, acting as though he owns the place; next he's returning home to an absolute hovel after having been talked down to and kicked in the nuts by life... It continues the double-act of WW/Heisenberg in that respect.

oi listen mate, shut up (dog latin), Tuesday, 10 February 2015 11:07 (seven years ago) link

i might be out on this already, the tone just feels off to me; I bet there will be some inspired stuff but not sure I want to invest ~14 hrs or w/e

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 13:10 (seven years ago) link

There will be loads of bb characters in this. Of course as Saul goodman he'll have good reason to come up against every scumbag in Albuquerque, and cops too

I mean, this is a breaking bad spinoff about Walter White's wacky lawyer; its very existence is fan service, however much prestigey ~darkness~ they inject into it.

I'm down cause I thought odenkirk was brilliant in bb

k3ller of sh1p (wins), Tuesday, 10 February 2015 13:15 (seven years ago) link

i loved the cold open so much

gr8080, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 13:35 (seven years ago) link

I enjoyed this a fair bit, just because Saul is a great character and it's good to spend more time with him. Wish the Tuco reveal hadn't come so early, because it's a fairly short line from him to Gus Fring, and really if this show is going to succeed on its own terms it needs to take time to do a Frasier and build its own universe of characters. The scenes with Chuck suggested that's in the plan, even if he felt miscast - I struggled to see him and Saul as actually related.

It's also showing us at least two Walter White-style descents into the underworld, and I love seeing people way way over their heads.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 13:40 (seven years ago) link

Like I think a constant parade of "hey look, it's Badger!" gratuitous fanwank would be the worst approach they could take and I more or less trust Gilligan not to take that road.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 13:41 (seven years ago) link

No they'll be careful not to make it constant I think

k3ller of sh1p (wins), Tuesday, 10 February 2015 13:58 (seven years ago) link

yeah i think i trust this team enough now not to make it shit

oi listen mate, shut up (dog latin), Tuesday, 10 February 2015 14:07 (seven years ago) link

When you look at Odenkirk's career between his inspired turn as Stevie Grant in The Larry Sanders Show and his BB turn as Saul it is quite depressing, a lost decade and a half of mediocre writing credits and various atrocious comedy-fail shite. I think this being his stand alone big shot and Gilligan's nerviness at following up such a big hit might be something to do with the rocky start this series has made. I hope it gets better cos I always liked Odenkirk, but so far it all feels a bit stilted and predictable.

xelab, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 14:09 (seven years ago) link

nah...

oi listen mate, shut up (dog latin), Tuesday, 10 February 2015 14:16 (seven years ago) link

don't think i'd heard of odenkirk before BB though.

oi listen mate, shut up (dog latin), Tuesday, 10 February 2015 14:17 (seven years ago) link

i think the broken windshield was a nice level of fan service callback

young pc thug (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 10 February 2015 14:31 (seven years ago) link

haha, what's that?

oi listen mate, shut up (dog latin), Tuesday, 10 February 2015 14:33 (seven years ago) link

i.e. that walt's windshield was constantly broken and now we've had another two broken windshields already, the breaking bad universe is much like our universe but with way more broken windshields

young pc thug (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 10 February 2015 14:34 (seven years ago) link

xposts

Odenkirk did Mr Show between Sanders and Breaking Bad! And he was in Nebraska after BB, which was nominated for a Palme D'Or and a half-dozen Oscars. He will be fine if this tanks.

Brio2, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 14:40 (seven years ago) link

and fargo

oi listen mate, shut up (dog latin), Tuesday, 10 February 2015 14:44 (seven years ago) link

Comedy-fail dross and an appearance in a Payneful, overrated movie might pay the bills but fronting your own series is a different matter and Fargo is also post BB.

xelab, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 14:47 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, Odenkirk hasn't had the best luck making movies of his own but he's otherwise had a pretty solid (if generally low-key) career and a vast comedic community that rightfully respects the shit out of him. Plus he brought Tim & Eric into our hearts and homes. He's gonna do just fine.

Brodozer Coke Buffet (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 10 February 2015 14:48 (seven years ago) link

Mr. Show = 'comedy-fail dross'. Okay.

Brodozer Coke Buffet (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 10 February 2015 14:50 (seven years ago) link

ok whatever your assessment of his career or talents are - he understands the risks of Better Call Saul, he'll be fine if it doesn't work out, and it's not "his stand alone big shot".

The NYT interview seems totally level-headed:


“I was worried about what it would do to my family and worried about whether I would end up being the guy who” — um, screwed up — “the legacy of ‘Breaking Bad.’ ”

“And then I talked to my daughter, who is 13 and incredibly mature, she said, ‘It’s a big opportunity, we will be fine, and if it’s bad, really, how bad could it be?’ ”

“And I said well, it won’t be bad. It’s written by Vince Gilligan and Peter Gould; the worst thing is it’s a really interesting misfire. If that’s the worst thing it is, I’d be more than happy to be part of that.”

Brio2, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 14:59 (seven years ago) link

There's a scene in Ep 1 at a security checkpoint where the guard waves the metal detector near a guy's privates and it goes off...the fact that McKean is in the cast made me think this was a homage to Spinal Tap

calstars, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 15:12 (seven years ago) link

i loved the cold open so much

― gr8080, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 13:35 (2 hours ago) Permalink

Me too!

Punny Names (latebloomer), Tuesday, 10 February 2015 16:19 (seven years ago) link

AAAAAAAAAAAA

k3ller of sh1p (wins), Tuesday, 10 February 2015 17:51 (seven years ago) link

That was some nasty comedy, it's rare I genuinely lol while cowering

k3ller of sh1p (wins), Tuesday, 10 February 2015 17:54 (seven years ago) link

The second half was quite okay.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 18:38 (seven years ago) link

woah
Poor Howard
Annoyingly I didn't recognise the PI when Jimmy hands him the photos. Duh.

kinder, Tuesday, 24 May 2022 20:46 (four days ago) link

It only just occurred to me another motive behind Kim's U-turn last week was it suddenly clicking that knowing Lalo was out there this may be the only opportunity to get the payout money and scram (with or without Jimmy, heh)

nashwan, Tuesday, 24 May 2022 21:19 (four days ago) link

People have been retweeting this December 2021 photo from the set for, uh, no reason today:

Happy birthday pally! pic.twitter.com/hfMuhl911t

— Mr. Bob Odenkirk (@mrbobodenkirk) December 8, 2021

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 22:03 (four days ago) link

I do hope that smothers the pace complaints.
s'all good, man.

maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 23:06 (four days ago) link

One really funny detail to me was Lalo emerging from the sewer in the beginning of the episode, whereas the last time we saw him was in Germany, implying that he just took the sewer all the way back to America like he’s Super Mario

frogbs, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 05:22 (three days ago) link

lol that's exactly what I said. did he just take a shortcut back from Germany?

kinder, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 08:12 (three days ago) link

also, are we not going to mention the Dark Crystal: The Musical gelfling?

kinder, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 08:13 (three days ago) link

I think I may need to watch BB through again cos i'm not remembering who does and doesn't appear in that as opposed to early seasons of BCS.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 09:28 (three days ago) link

Lalo emerging from the sewer reminded me, of all things--you'll know what I mean if you've seen the film--the Beatles' Help!.

clemenza, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 10:52 (three days ago) link

wasnt he looking for evidence that Gus ordered the hit on him? and then he started producing a documentary on how cool his secret lab is?

maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 11:02 (three days ago) link

One really funny detail to me was Lalo emerging from the sewer in the beginning of the episode, whereas the last time we saw him was in Germany, implying that he just took the sewer all the way back to America like he’s Super Mario

― frogbs, Wednesday, May 25, 2022 12:22 AM (seven hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

he has the stache for it

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 12:49 (three days ago) link

It's-a me, Lalo!

*Blam*

Gymnopédie Pablo (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 12:59 (three days ago) link

come to think of it, how does he get to Germany and back? he doesn't exactly have cartel resources, and I assume it's too risky to just fly commercial, even if the Feds think he's dead.

frogbs, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 13:33 (three days ago) link

there's a post credits teaser I had missed:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RL7ADEs-0oI

maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 13:53 (three days ago) link

I'd guess Lalo has a nice cache of passports and money and airport security is generally just for show anyway

mh, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 14:00 (three days ago) link

Lalo took an international cab

Gymnopédie Pablo (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 15:04 (three days ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyR3fSiwItw

Evan, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 15:34 (three days ago) link

two really funny lines in this episode - Irene asking "is this how these things normally go?" and Howard to Lalo: "I suggest you find a better lawyer!"

frogbs, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 15:49 (three days ago) link

ok and also when Howard shows the photos to Cliff and it's just some weird looking dude in a moustache

frogbs, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 15:52 (three days ago) link

Lots of funny bits yeah, the trolleys/shopping carts rolling into the parked car was a great cap on a funny scene & then the whole routine with the film students, I love how naturally the sitcom-broad characters fit in among the noir

gop on ya gingrich (wins), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 15:59 (three days ago) link

yeah the camera man was like someone from an SNL sketch. and then the sound lady dressed in full elf makeup.

frogbs, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 16:06 (three days ago) link

speaking of someone tracked down Rhea Seehorn's first acting gig and uh...just watch some of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jp4tMSIr_U

frogbs, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 16:07 (three days ago) link

All the dialog in that "reshoot" scene in the park was a little too snappy, but yeah great episode and I was definitely laughing when the photos just showed Jimmy giving a frisbee back to the tall film student

Evan, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 16:07 (three days ago) link

loved seeing john ennis and bob odenkirk together again

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 16:34 (three days ago) link

even though i did keep waiting for bob to call him a "fatty fat fat fatty"

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 16:35 (three days ago) link

Lalo emerging from the sewer reminded me, of all things--you'll know what I mean if you've seen the film--the Beatles' Help!.

― clemenza, Wednesday, May 25, 2022 6:52 AM (six hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Haha yes, what I thought of too

Hongro Hongro Hippies (Myonga Vön Bontee), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 17:17 (three days ago) link

📹


lol

Among all the shamelessly badass moments of either show that jump would be top 5 for me I think

That scene btw is why he’s back at his lawyers’, the bullethole-riddled car renders jimmy’s already not un-hole-riddled story sus - Kim was able to put him off with bluster while the clock was ticking for him to skip town but he’s obv since had time to think about it

However they get out of that it’s clear they’re fully in it now, with not just Howard’s body but the fallout from their campaign: seems like cliff believes Howard after he laid out what jimmy did & why (& was smart enough to say “because he’s a child & won’t wait” rather than “because he’s out to get me”) it’s all just gonna snowball now

Saul obv has his eye on that little black book, he’s about to be a millionaire, it’s a fairly short distance to breaking bad

Signposted beats & forgone conclusions aside it feels nicely unpredictable atm, when ppl talk about Kim leaving jimmy high & dry I could see that happening — “for his own good” maybe, & he then lives fully in the person she helped invent (I don’t think I clocked that she is from nebraska btw! But them meeting there would be too pat) — but for the first time in quite a while I feel like she could totally be dead by the end

gop on ya gingrich (wins), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 17:25 (three days ago) link

very curious what Lalo's plan is re: Saul & Kim. it didn't occur to me until afterwards that he came up with it on the fly after seeing the cockroach.

sometimes I think this show is too subtle for its own good but there are moments where it's really cool. I thought Howard teaching the intern the soda trick was a nice touch - he mentions that Chuck taught it to him, which makes sense because presumably Jimmy was shaking up soda cans all the time as a kid. the whole thing is like a microcosm of their whole relationship.

frogbs, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 17:51 (three days ago) link

(xxpost) Should have immediately cut from Lalo to the Beatles doing "You've Got to Hide Your Love Away," Kim sitting on a sofa and listening intently.

clemenza, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 18:02 (three days ago) link

also interesting to note that by the time Saul is introduced in Breaking Bad (which iirc is 4 years after the events of the last BCS episode?), he thinks that Lalo is still alive

frogbs, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 18:08 (three days ago) link

lol good ep

mark s, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 19:50 (three days ago) link

Did you feel, as I do, that lalo is a lil stinker

gop on ya gingrich (wins), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 20:03 (three days ago) link

BCS > BB

― PBKR, Thursday, May 19, 2022 10:06 AM (six days ago) bookmarkflaglink

Just a masterclass of pacing and tension all season long and what a payoff.

PBKR, Thursday, 26 May 2022 01:27 (two days ago) link

I know Lalo's supposed to be terrifying but whenever he's on screen I can only think of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gYE5TyijxE

frogbs, Thursday, 26 May 2022 01:51 (two days ago) link

Better Sean Paul

calstars, Thursday, 26 May 2022 07:58 (two days ago) link

More Jimmy, Les Paul (I mean Saul).

clemenza, Thursday, 26 May 2022 11:01 (two days ago) link

Think Lalo might have been too clever turning up at Saul n Kim's like that- if he's planning to use one/both of them against Gus (or Juan Bolsa?), Gus could get wind of it and know what's up. Just cos Michael is fooled by the phone call bluff doesn't mean Gus is

Coast to coast, LA to Chicago, Western Mail (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 26 May 2022 11:12 (two days ago) link

Like the man says. "clever, clever chicken man"

Coast to coast, LA to Chicago, Western Mail (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 26 May 2022 11:12 (two days ago) link

does "mid-season finale" mean there is now a gap?

mark s, Thursday, 26 May 2022 13:10 (two days ago) link

Yeah. Back 11 July

groovypanda, Thursday, 26 May 2022 13:20 (two days ago) link

CLEVER CHICKEN MAN

calstars, Thursday, 26 May 2022 13:26 (two days ago) link

Think Lalo might have been too clever turning up at Saul n Kim's like that- if he's planning to use one/both of them against Gus (or Juan Bolsa?), Gus could get wind of it and know what's up. Just cos Michael is fooled by the phone call bluff doesn't mean Gus is

yea I kind of suspect that they're going to play the full phone call for Gus, he'll hear that Lalo hangs up and calls back, and deduces that *he* knows and is intentionally throwing them off

frogbs, Thursday, 26 May 2022 13:37 (two days ago) link

Also, Lalo really lost his cool when he realised the phone was tapped, which I don't think we've seen before, which makes me think getting a msg to Hector was a key part of the plan

Coast to coast, LA to Chicago, Western Mail (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 27 May 2022 08:53 (yesterday) link

hector pinging away angrily to the cartel

mark s, Friday, 27 May 2022 09:09 (yesterday) link

turns out this show is garbage

The one thing they really screwed up between Breaking Bad (photo 1) and Better Call Saul (photo 2) is the age of Mike's granddaughter, she should have been around 3 in BCS pic.twitter.com/6nCmzx4jDC

— Gore Vidal Sassoon (@JimmyJazz1968) May 27, 2022

mark s, Friday, 27 May 2022 10:13 (yesterday) link

I’m not so keen on the Lalo as super-villain element of this show which verges on borderline credibility.

For me what is more interesting how Jimmy has the courage and determination to keep going and reinvent himself in the face of continually being “kicked in the nuts by life” (as it’s phrased above thread iirc)- and the personal cost of this to him and Kim.

Luna Schlosser, Friday, 27 May 2022 10:46 (yesterday) link

perhaps Jimmy dies in the second half of season 5 and Kim does the spin the world backwards thing from Superman to save him but dies in the process

Gymnopédie Pablo (Neanderthal), Friday, 27 May 2022 15:55 (yesterday) link

I’m not so keen on the Lalo as super-villain element of this show which verges on borderline credibility.

feel like most of the characters have that element, like 75% of the plot points in this show (and BB) revolve around one character knowing exactly how another character is going to act. Walt vs. Gus, Jimmy vs. Chuck, Jimmy & Kim vs. Howard, all these plot points relying on a character doing very specific things. obviously this is what makes the show fun and I think it's what makes that last scene work so well, seeing things suddenly and dramatically spiral out of control in a completely unpredictable way.

I agree that Lalo's superpowers seem to extend even beyond that, but I think the actor is so good at pulling it off that it works. it really does feel like his character was supposed to kick it last season but they liked Tony Dalton so much they kept him until the end.

frogbs, Friday, 27 May 2022 16:37 (yesterday) link

Lalo loses that smirk sometimes, even loses his shit occasionally--though I'd forgotten that

by the time Saul is introduced in Breaking Bad (which iirc is 4 years after the events of the last BCS episode?), he thinks that Lalo is still alive
, and maybe he is,maybe that's who is waiting for the cabbie from New Mexico to deliver Cinnibon X-Jimmy---but the real point of the show, or what always happens eventually, is that nobody is as smart/Bad as they think they are, especially when they get too clever, and it's the machine, the drug biz and the rest, that goes cruising along, outliving/making use of us all---The King is dead, long live the King---like the Corleones and their Family band get absorbed into the corporate world, incl. entertainment, next stop Sopranos nook, where the boyzz break down Godfadda movies, then Breaking Bad, and now this---but what I said about this being a tasty rehash,
Jimmy and Kim like two little Walts
,also means that whoever, maybe on another show, maybe in an environmental bunker, sees this series first, and *then* sees Breaking Bad for the first time, will get a massive upgrade ov Badness, and--quite a ride---think about it!

dow, Saturday, 28 May 2022 03:56 (twelve hours ago) link

It's only when the ponderous Gus parts and the pranking-Howard arc took over that I lost some interest, though; the first 3-4 seasons, at least, were amazing, and I still hope Chuck comes back in some way, maybe just for a second in a bad Slippin' Jimmy dream, under the counter at Cinnibon's, or would that be too easy, like Walt and his family in a booth at Gus's place.

dow, Saturday, 28 May 2022 04:08 (twelve hours ago) link


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