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I'd like to visit one day. This photo essay on the Washington Post site reconfirms it.

A good friend knew somebody who was at the South Pole Amundsen-Scott station when Jerri Nielsen was diagnosed with breast cancer. It made for an interesting perspective on the whole thing when I was able to read some of the e-mails later.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 22 March 2007 22:02 (seventeen years ago) link

I actually hadn't realized they've upgraded said station since then -- not quite what I expected!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b6/Amundsen-scott-south_pole_station_2006.jpg

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 22 March 2007 22:04 (seventeen years ago) link

I got this book for my Dad for Xmas the year before last, and ended up reading it myself... worth checking out:

http://www.amazon.com/Big-Dead-Place-Menacing-Antarctica/dp/0922915997/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-0555392-7800610?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1174601313&sr=8-1

dan m, Thursday, 22 March 2007 22:09 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm intrigued with the notion that Antartica is extremely dry while at the same time there is so much ice...

Sara R-C, Thursday, 22 March 2007 22:11 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.joeld.net/snowcruiser/snowcruiser.html

Catsupppppppppppppp dude ‫茄蕃‪, Thursday, 22 March 2007 22:13 (seventeen years ago) link

I'd like to visit one day.

Me too! Also Tierra del Feugo.

http://assets.pitchforkmedia.com/images/image/26475.mcmurdo-header.jpg?

This Pitchfork feature about the live music scene there is great!

caek, Thursday, 22 March 2007 22:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Me too , hopefully sail. Christchurch is pretty handy. One of my profs is a leading polar psychologist who can't stop chortling through class as he reminisces over Friday nites down there.

That snow cruiser monster link, OMG! WHAT WERE THEY THINKING!?

Such a spectacular and wonderful failure.

“The crew later found that the tires produced more traction when driven backwards. The longest trek was 92 miles -- driven completely in reverse”.

Kiwi, Thursday, 22 March 2007 22:58 (seventeen years ago) link

i wonder if i will ever visit antarctica

s1ocki, Thursday, 22 March 2007 23:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Some of my JPL friends tried to drag me down there for a month a few years ago (they all had research projects)...I skipped. I guess I regret it now, but it sounds like there are lots of miserable aspects to visiting Antarctica too (like for example: isolation)

I enjoyed the Kim Stanley Robinson book, though, and can't help smiling that there's a Lonely Planet book too.

mfleming, Thursday, 22 March 2007 23:20 (seventeen years ago) link

One of my profs is a leading polar psychologist who can't stop chortling through class as he reminisces over Friday nites down there.

This sentence is awesome!

caek, Thursday, 22 March 2007 23:21 (seventeen years ago) link

This book is a must read for the curreent Antarctic state-of-mind

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 22 March 2007 23:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Ack, it's the same book mentioned above... The web site for it is great

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 22 March 2007 23:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Especially recommended: [Removed Illegal Link]

On casual viewing, the movie appears to be just another sci-fi movie with dubious special effects. However, no other movie in history has ever depicted daily Antarctic life and its problems with such accuracy and intuitive brilliance. It took place at a research station with no scientists, which is the case with McMurdo Station in the winter. The doctor was nuts, which underscores the problem of attracting to Antarctic stations qualified physicians who have no practice at home and who are willing to work for peanuts on year-to-year contracts. The doctor was locked in a hut away from the others after his madness, much like the kitchen worker who was locked in McMurdo's luxurious Hut 10 to await retrieval by the FBI after attacking his co-worker with a hammer. There was suspicion of aliens, which parallels the evacuation from McMurdo in November 2000 of a science tech who held a lecture called "The Reality of Dreams" and later advertised to the hoi polloi that one Thursday aliens would descend in spacecraft to meet him outside the galley. In the film, the testing of the crew's blood brings to mind the USAP employee drug tests. And the film prophetically dramatized, and served as propaganda for, the U.S. political push to ban dogs from Antarctica, which the other Treaty Nations reluctantly consented to in 1991. And what of "The Thing", that can infect any fellow and turn him into a threat against his neighbor, that leads to the ultimate fizzling out of "The Station"? The Thing represents Bureaucracy, reproducing via individual hosts who are each stunted by their fear of an organized but faceless entity that influences every aspect of their daily lives. If there is a more lucid film that describes daily Antarctic life, it has already crumbled to dust in obscurity.

Common icons of Antarctic life are repeated throughout the movie with uncanny precision: spilled fuel; ubiquitous barrels; plentiful whisky; anti-intellectualism; resentment toward Norwegians being the first at Pole; general madness; obsession with generators; and black flags planted in the snow are all familiar to the Antarctic station. There are minor annoyances, such as that the crew stores dynamite in a supply closet in the main building, that they don't tie anything down outside to keep it from the wind, and that their machines start up in the cold without being plugged in, but the most noteworthy deviation from actual USAP practices is that in the film everyone has a flamethrower. In the movie, fire is a tool against insidious dangers and is employed as an agent for the community against the threat of a larger hostile organism. In the actual USAP, employees are forbidden flamethrowers.

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 22 March 2007 23:57 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.discogs.com/image/R-150-440421-1113767465.jpg

Abbott, Thursday, 22 March 2007 23:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Fuck washing an illegal link... It's from http://www.bigdeadplace.com/the_thing.html

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 22 March 2007 23:57 (seventeen years ago) link

http://store.gwar.net/images/V116antarctica_dvd.jpg

Abbott, Thursday, 22 March 2007 23:58 (seventeen years ago) link

my friend went to the tip of Argentia and said it's basically the same!

emilys., Friday, 23 March 2007 02:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Her schoolhouse mind has windows now
Where handsome creatures come to watch
The anaesthetic wearing off
Antarctica starts here

gershy, Friday, 23 March 2007 03:16 (seventeen years ago) link

ANTARCTICA!!

rrrobyn, Friday, 23 March 2007 04:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Awesome Caek? Thankyou! OTOH if you mean my syntax is crapola apologies. And to think I went to a grammar school. The shame. Not to derail further Ned but for the record it would seem I was pwned by wikipedia funnies on the snow cruiser being driven in reverse for 92 miles.

Kiwi, Friday, 23 March 2007 09:14 (seventeen years ago) link

One of my friends was a cameraman on Life In The Freezer

C J, Friday, 23 March 2007 09:21 (seventeen years ago) link

> I actually hadn't realized they've upgraded said station since then -- not quite what I expected!

this is what the architects in the office below mine do, design antartic research centres, i can see the models through the window. (bit of a niche i'd've thought...)

http://www.realestatejournal.com/propertyreport/architecture/20041203-frangos.html (top picture)

koogs, Friday, 23 March 2007 09:33 (seventeen years ago) link

I went over the summer of 2000-2001 and worked for 5 months, driving the shuttle back and forth between the "town" and the various airfields at McMurdo. We flew down from Christchurch and landed right on the sea ice in a military C-130. There are maybe 6 small porthole windows in the whole cabin of a C-130, and I lucked into one of them, craning my neck to get a view of the ice and the mountains. I've (obviously) never had a flight like it.

The first two weeks were hell. I never get dry skin, but it seemed like all of me was cracked and cut. I was also in a room with no windows and 3 dudes. There was so much to get used to at first. But then I settled in. Work, 56 hour weeks, driving back and forth, took up both time and mind. That's one thing I'll treasure: driving on the ice, alone, music up, sun out.

I played drums down there too. God, what was the name of that band? We were the only group that played originals: The Legendary Beep Beeps. We drank a lot of New Zealand beer and thought we were fucking great.

Okay, enough of this. but maybe I'll post a few pictures.

jergincito, Friday, 23 March 2007 10:15 (seventeen years ago) link

i guess that band continues. i had no idea: http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=9021959
ha ha

i drove this a couple of times:

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my dorm:

http://www.antarctica2000.net/mcmurdo/images1/dorm.jpg

i need to scan my own pictures. they're so much better.

jergincito, Friday, 23 March 2007 10:20 (seventeen years ago) link

try the bus again:

http://tea.armadaproject.org/Images/deaton/deaton_2_deaton_Ivan_passengers.JPG.jpg

jergincito, Friday, 23 March 2007 10:21 (seventeen years ago) link

my favorite stories to ask about of the winter-overs were about the people who'd gone a little crazy during the 24 hours of darkness. my friends, the ones who got me my job, and feature in the book linked to above, were down over a winter when one guy wouldn't leave his room. you quit your job in a place like that and there's no place to go. so he just stayed in his room, wouldn't even go to the galley. people brought food to his door and tried to talk him into taking a shower. another guy got hold of an ax somehow and had to be talked down. there aren't exactly cops, or jail cells, there, so it took some pretty fine diplomacy. i think he got arrested on his return to NZ.

jergincito, Friday, 23 March 2007 10:24 (seventeen years ago) link

The new south pole station (I never went to the pole) is pretty interesting from an architectural standpoint:

It is a 2-story structure with the "leading edge" facing the prevailing wind. The steel structure is elevated 10' above the initial graded snow surface, supported by many 24" heavywall pipe piles. These are designed to allow the structure to be jacked up in the future.

it's on these pillars, so that when the ice changes, rises, they can keep the station from being covered over, ala the old one:

http://www.johnj.com/art/pole/vidpix/70.jpg

jergincito, Friday, 23 March 2007 10:28 (seventeen years ago) link

My new favourite band:

http://cms.pitchforkmedia.com/images/image/26643.ant3.gif

Masonic Boom, Friday, 23 March 2007 10:30 (seventeen years ago) link

I love how even original bands in Antarctica have their own myspace site.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 23 March 2007 12:14 (seventeen years ago) link

I would go to Antarctica, but I would feel like such an intruder if I didn't have a job to do. Seems like tourists would spoil the place. Those pictures at the top, especially of Erebus, are amazing.

Mr. Que, Friday, 23 March 2007 13:47 (seventeen years ago) link

it's really hard to get there as a tourist (which makes the lonely planet all the more laughable). we had one group pass through there while i was there, off of a russian boat, helicoptered over. we looked at them like they were aliens. it was especially odd to see a child. people were trippin, "oh my god a kid!"

jergincito, Friday, 23 March 2007 16:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Some cruise line is running tour ships to Antarctica, right?

M.V., Friday, 23 March 2007 17:18 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, it's a russian boat. i think they go to the peninsula, on the s. america side. sometimes you get on land, sometimes you don't. weather.

jergincito, Friday, 23 March 2007 17:22 (seventeen years ago) link

I believe that people should not be allowed visit Antarctica, except maybe for regulated numbers of scientists.

The Real Dirty Vicar, Friday, 23 March 2007 18:00 (seventeen years ago) link

what about rich people?

Catsupppppppppppppp dude ‫茄蕃‪, Friday, 23 March 2007 18:08 (seventeen years ago) link

they should just go to space instead

rrrobyn, Friday, 23 March 2007 18:30 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, rich people can go. i should have said 'expensive' instead of 'difficult'. it's about $10k per person, i think.

jergincito, Saturday, 24 March 2007 09:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Rich people going: http://photoshopnews.com/feature-stories/antarctica-expedition/, http://photoshopnews.com/2007/03/08/im-back-from-antarctica-but-im-on-the-road-again/

caek, Saturday, 24 March 2007 12:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Awesome Caek? Thankyou! OTOH if you mean my syntax is crapola apologies.

No, I meant that sentence was so fun! It made me smile. A+++ would read again.

Elvis Telecom: had fun reading the PDF of the first chapter of that book. Thanks for the link.

caek, Sunday, 25 March 2007 21:50 (seventeen years ago) link

That makes me happier than you would care to imagine. I feel complete at last. Nice trade! Highly Recommend!

Kiwi, Monday, 26 March 2007 02:02 (seventeen years ago) link

five months pass...

This book is a must read for the curreent Antarctic state-of-mind

-- Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 22 March 2007 23:52 (5 months ago) Bookmark Link

I read the rest of this book after reading this thread. It is great. I have now subscribed to this RSS feed: http://www.antarctica.ac.uk/employment/.

Also, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qz2SeEzxMuE = Whoa.

caek, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 02:06 (sixteen years ago) link

Also, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qz2SeEzxMuE = Whoa.

Bloody hell, it's like opening the hatch of a spaceship in deep space.

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 04:11 (sixteen years ago) link

i just saw werner herzog's new movie about antarctica. it's called encounters at the end of the world. some cool stuff in there.

s1ocki, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 05:17 (sixteen years ago) link

ooh. i want to see that.

a few weeks ago i ran into a friend i hadn't seen for a while. we were talking and he told me he'd gone to antartica earlier in the year, or at the end of last year, i don't remember, but he'd gone to argentina and then taken a huge boat for two and a half days through rough seas. most of the people on board spent the entire time wanting to die but he was fine he said b/c of all the halfpipe/vert stuff he'd done when younger. by the time they got to antartica all anyone could talk about was icebergs though.

rrrobyn, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 05:36 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...

just read that, based on recommendations--pretty damn good

the bureaucratic nightmare stuff started to piss me off too much, though

mookieproof, Saturday, 3 November 2007 16:33 (sixteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Oopsy.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 23 November 2007 21:10 (sixteen years ago) link

That link just comes back here. Perhaps that is what you meant by 'oopsy'?

Isn't tourism to the polar regions irresponsible?

Alex in Denver, Friday, 23 November 2007 21:13 (sixteen years ago) link

Hahah, you're right at that, Alex. Here's the real link:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/24/world/americas/24ship.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

Ned Raggett, Friday, 23 November 2007 21:14 (sixteen years ago) link

When I read that I thought, "Oh damn. Hey, it would be neat to be crew on one of those ships."

Maria, Friday, 23 November 2007 21:25 (sixteen years ago) link

I was on that same boat 3 years ago, in the Canadian Artic! Wierd to see it sunk. It seemed solid enough at the time.

They're pretty cool trips, in these smallish boats. They bring along historians, geologists, etc, to give lectures. Some of the folks on the trip I was on had been on the same boat to Antartica before, and said the Drake Passage was pretty hairy.

As to whether tourism in the polar regions is irresponsible, that's a good question.

pauls00, Friday, 23 November 2007 21:30 (sixteen years ago) link

via http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2011/03/recent-scenes-from-antarctica/100019/

caek, Saturday, 5 March 2011 01:06 (thirteen years ago) link

this appeals to me on so many levels, make me sad that I've not seen places like this for myself.

not_goodwin, Saturday, 5 March 2011 01:27 (thirteen years ago) link

seven months pass...

Cool!

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 7 October 2011 15:35 (twelve years ago) link

(the zombie guy is frank wild)

mark s, Friday, 7 October 2011 15:47 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

Great stuff (and a link to the original piece if you'd like to go all in).

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 23:19 (twelve years ago) link

nature had a seriously good week this week, with these mountains and ionian water

caek, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 23:28 (twelve years ago) link

european even

caek, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 23:28 (twelve years ago) link

four months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aES6WC0CDnI

toandos, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 02:45 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

In which mark s digs deep, with Scott/Amundsen as a launching point for all kinds of things:

http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2012/04/inuit-science-and-the-commodification-of-victory-scott-versus-amundsen-a-century-on/

Ned Raggett, Monday, 30 April 2012 14:31 (eleven years ago) link

deep into the zone of pitchforkmedia

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Monday, 30 April 2012 14:32 (eleven years ago) link

two months pass...

Heck yes:

http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2012/07/become-antarctic-explorer-with.html

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 19:53 (eleven years ago) link

"I'm going online, I may be some time..."

second dullest ILXor since 1929 (snoball), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 19:57 (eleven years ago) link

four months pass...

RIP Nick Johnson, writer of the terrific Big Dead Place book and blog: http://feralhouse.com/nick-johnson-rip/

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 6 December 2012 08:44 (eleven years ago) link

Yeesh. Heavy stuff. Rip.

caek, Thursday, 6 December 2012 10:32 (eleven years ago) link

four years pass...

that last link post here is just awful (http://feralhouse.com/nick-johnson-rip/), on many levels. i know the person writing it was dealing with intense pain, but it's probably not a good idea to imply that the author of a rejection letter was the cause of someone's suicide. she has to live a life, too. ugh. the south pole, man. fuck.

Karl Malone, Saturday, 2 September 2017 04:26 (six years ago) link

four months pass...

i meant to revive this a while back when i finished reading his book, but just want to second the recommendation of Big Dead Place. elvis mentioned it above, caek recommended i read it, and mookie even sent me an e-book version! it was an ILX-sponsored reading journey, and now i'm happy to hop on the Big Dead Place train as well.

the book is about living and working in antarctica, mainly the McMurdo station. but it's not about the environment or the hazardous conditions, and certainly not about scientific research. instead, it's about surreal bureaucracy, one of my favorite topics. johnson worked in the waste management department at the station. johnson must have been a nightmare for the NSF (the operator of the station, with the authority residing in Denver) - a worker who recognized the absurdity of his working environment, had the talent to express it eloquently (and hilariously), and the willingness to name names and embarrass management. i imagine he would have found the working environment absurd in just about any workplace administered by the government - ime, the entire federal government is like a bad episode of The Office - but the extremes of antarctica really brought out something special in him. i'd like to think that i would have been his friend in mcmurdo, if i was there, toeing the line with authority. but who knows, i may have been the guy who gets promoted to lower management as an emergency fill-in and then ends up being the buttoned up stooge passing along orders from Denver that everyone hated. or the weirdo down the hall who never left the room except to bring out buckets of frozen piss and pick up more beer.

at any rate, i finished his book several weeks back and it's one of those writings that has really struck with me. RIP nick johnson.

Karl Malone, Sunday, 14 January 2018 19:11 (six years ago) link

yes! great book. i didn't make the government bureaucracy connection with you, but it makes sense that would ring true for you.

gonna post this again now we have embeds

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qz2SeEzxMuE

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Monday, 15 January 2018 05:28 (six years ago) link

three weeks pass...

(xpost with new yorker thread)

i haven't read this yet but even a quick scroll through suggests it will be good:

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/02/12/the-white-darkness

Karl Malone, Friday, 9 February 2018 01:26 (six years ago) link

Encounters at the End of the World was so good. just interviewing all of the random people from all over the globe that end up there was v fascinating. the spooky minimal wildlife stuff was interesting as well. like when they are listening to the seals under the ice and it sounds like the most insane synthesizer filters. the place looks otherworldly beautiful - the cathedrals of ice sculptures reflecting light underneath the vast frozen seas, the crystal caves, the blinding force of the winds, the extremophiles that survive without oxygen, sunlight, or carbon. its all so extra-terrestrial!

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 9 February 2018 01:56 (six years ago) link

Extremophiles are the ultimate adventurers. These organisms thrive where other microbes donโ€™t dare venture: boiling water holes, freezing lakes, and toxic waste dumps.

Now, researchers have sequenced the genomes of two extremophiles that love life extremely cold. They live at the bottom of Ace Lake in Antarctica, where there is no oxygen and the average temperature is a brutal 33 degrees Fahrenheit.

The two organisms, called Methanogenium frigidum and Methanococcoides burtonii, produce methane and are known as methanogens.

Methanogens are unique among organisms in their ability to survive a wide range of temperatures, from the freezing point of water to 185 degrees Fahrenheit and everything in between.

In a new study, scientists sequenced the genomes of M. frigidum and M. burtonii and compared their genomes with those of heat-loving methanogens to identify features that may help these microbes adapt to their cold surroundings.

Some of these hardy organisms also live in oxygen-starved environments, without sunlight or carbon, and scientists believe that studying these microbes could reveal the boundaries of extreme environments that support life here on Earth and on other planets.

---

So what if Earth isnโ€™t the only place these kinds of microbes live?

Some scientists speculate that methanogens could provide clues to life on other planets, such as Mars, and Europa (Jupiterโ€™s sixth moon).

Evidence suggests that beneath the icy surface of Europa, there may be subsurface oceans that could support extremophiles like M. frigidum. The Antarctic lakes of the Vestfold Hills and their hardy inhabitants may, in some way, resemble the environment on Europa.

Other research suggests that some methanogens could survive life on Mars. Scientists at the University of Arkansas in Fayetteville have grown methanogens in Mars-like soil and under Mars-like conditions.

After the Viking voyages to Mars in the 1970s turned up no trace of life, as we knew it, some scientists dismissed the idea of Martian life. Twenty years later, with the discovery of organisms that can survive without oxygen, carbon, or sunlight, researchers are rethinking the boundaries of what environments may support life.

http://www.genomenewsnetwork.org/articles/07_03/extremo.shtml

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 9 February 2018 01:58 (six years ago) link

i find this page extremely poignant

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rivers_of_Antarctica

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Friday, 9 February 2018 04:06 (six years ago) link

karl malone you should read the worst journey in the world

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Friday, 9 February 2018 04:07 (six years ago) link

four months pass...

via the best blog (but CW weirdly glib description of suicide)

http://www.southpolestation.com/news/news.html

Nicholas JohnsonA bit of iconic history, otherwise elsewhere described as the "WikiLeaks of Antarctica..." is the iconic book Big Dead Place. Author Nicholas Johnson, unfortunately, is no longer with us after he blew his brains out in 2012, but his work survives. And his work has now been given a new lease on life. On 30 April, ABC's program Earshot aired a 30-minute podcast/download which describes and details Nicholas's work, life, and the rest of his story. The interview and accompanying web pages include the voices and photos of several friends. Two ABC links of interest: this page gives basic information about the episode along with links for listening to or downloading the story...and this page gives additional background information as well as more photos. But that is not all. Nicholas' sister worked to get THE BIG DEAD PLACE WEBSITE back up to coincide with the release of this documentary. Have a look! Not everything is there, but there is a lot of the good stuff. The photo of Nicolas at left shows him at work in the McMurdo waste barn in about 2001...it's from Kathy Blumm and used by permission.

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Saturday, 9 June 2018 20:20 (five years ago) link

great book; didn't know about the suicide (although it's . . . not exactly shocking)

mookieproof, Saturday, 9 June 2018 20:24 (five years ago) link

(but CW weirdly glib description of suicide)

oddly, the place where i first learned about his death described it in the same way: http://feralhouse.com/nick-johnson-rip/
maybe it was an inside joke, or perhaps just a way of addressing it that seemed in keeping with his style of writing. i'm not sure.

the earshot episode was good, although i didn't really like whoever was reading in the voice of nicholas johnson. reminded me of the old iron chefs with the english dubs

obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Sunday, 10 June 2018 00:18 (five years ago) link

Thanks for the link. Weird personal trivia.... my copy of Big Dead Place has actually been to Antarctica. Haven't been there yet.

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 10 June 2018 04:54 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Thank you all for suggesting Big Dead Place. It's Rivethead... On Ice!

pplains, Monday, 25 June 2018 03:04 (five years ago) link

seven months pass...

good account https://twitter.com/HotWaterOnIce

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Tuesday, 29 January 2019 23:35 (five years ago) link

https://twitter.com/SPtelescope is good too.

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 31 January 2019 06:17 (five years ago) link

six months pass...

if you read this thread you've probably already seen this, but just in case:

https://idlewords.com/2019/07/the_stranding_of_the_mv_shokalskiy.htm

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 21:39 (four years ago) link

that was excellent, thanks

sleeve, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 22:28 (four years ago) link

Just finished Barry Lopezโ€™ big memoir, โ€œHorizonโ€ in which he kinda ties things up with a big section that takes place in Antarctica. Recommended and the other sections are cool too (Arctic, Australia, Galapagos and Rift Valley).

tobo73, Thursday, 1 August 2019 00:15 (four years ago) link

"His memoir, with the unfortunately Dairy Queenish title Home of the Blizzard,"

i died

cheese canopy (map), Thursday, 1 August 2019 00:27 (four years ago) link

three years pass...

good blog https://brr.fyi/

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Sunday, 5 February 2023 16:45 (one year ago) link

My mom just got back. Her tl;dr was that it was a good trip but given the effort to get there nothing she would want to do again. She said the Drake Passage was just as terrible as everyone said, and that's basically a couple of days on either end of your limited visit to Antarctica proper, which she said was, besides cold, a lot windier than she expected. She was, however, impressed at how accessible the visit apparently is, however restricted the number of visitors (and cost) may be. Everyone from nonagenarians to Donna Shalala.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 5 February 2023 16:59 (one year ago) link

eleven months pass...

i just got done listening to _the worst journey in the world_. i had just given the book to a fellow outdoors person, and since my reading strength is not quite up to par since tbi, i figured iโ€™d listen, to see how it went. it quickly sorta took me over. and there are long sections iโ€™ve relistened to.

that is the most memorable and completely overwhelming book iโ€™ve experienced. i feel like i could discuss it for hours and not really hit a same topic twice. also a fantastic narration, at least to me.

a single gunshot and polite applause (Hunt3r), Saturday, 13 January 2024 15:24 (three months ago) link

Was it Hugh Grant? (That may sound flippant but when he was just starting out getting roles in the 80s, he played Cherry-Garrard in the miniseries adaptation of The Last Place on Earth.)

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 13 January 2024 16:46 (three months ago) link

Somebody named Simon Vance, a name I do not recognize offhand.

a single gunshot and polite applause (Hunt3r), Saturday, 13 January 2024 17:09 (three months ago) link

Ah, Vance! I've had the pleasure to meet him briefly after a talk he gave (with Guy Gavriel Kay, an author favorite of mine). I don't follow his recorded books work much but he has a massive, massive rep in the field, and he's a pleasant fellow. I'll have to pass that on to the folks I know who introduced me to his work.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 13 January 2024 17:23 (three months ago) link

the book is widely considered the best ever written about an antarctic expedition by one of the participants

mark s, Saturday, 13 January 2024 17:28 (three months ago) link

ha ned that's wild. he is very very good. i expect most of the british accents of the original party were not too extremely far apart, but it is pretty clear when he is narrating say, scott's journal, rather than one of the seamen's, or even bowers's.

i've looked v briefly at readers commentaries. a couple of them complained of cherry-gerard's inclusion/melding of various participants' journals. i cannot disagree more, they are grafted in beautifully, are clearly distinguished, and add fantastic details. and this tale is one of almost innumerable details-- ones that blow my goddamn mind. amongst the many stories detailing the torturous lives of the ponies there is one in which one weakening pony has his hind quarters fall through the ice adjacent to a pod of taunting orcas the entire dilemma is just riveting.

a single gunshot and polite applause (Hunt3r), Saturday, 13 January 2024 18:33 (three months ago) link

Simon Vance does audiobook work regularly, I think. He read the Stieg Larsson trilogy.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 13 January 2024 21:15 (three months ago) link

He's done a lot of good books (which obviously excludes Larsson), and reads them really well.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Friday, 19 January 2024 08:47 (two months ago) link

the brr.fyi guy made it back home

circles, Friday, 19 January 2024 11:35 (two months ago) link

"the many stories detailing the torturous lives of the ponies"

you get more of a sense of the character of Weary Willie than the humans at times, he's the only one sensibly saying fuck this nonsense, albeit through passive resistance. The passages from other fellow expeditionists journals definitely enhance the story. I can't remember whose journal it was, but there was a bit that made me chuckle that was butthurt at the positive advance of Amundsen's expedition party, and commenting that they have brought a good supply of potatoes with them he noted: "there must be a renegade Irishman amongst them".

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 19 January 2024 20:51 (two months ago) link

ac-gโ€™s slow boil fury at bureaucracy in his egg delivery to british museum or whatever showed v some amusing restraint, eh.

a single gunshot and polite applause (Hunt3r), Saturday, 20 January 2024 14:54 (two months ago) link

at least back the 1910's the explorer classes viewed orcas as the deadly predators they are, none of this anthropomorphic hippy shit about swimming with them, they knew that at times it only took one fateful misstep onto some fragile sea ice and they were lunch.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Saturday, 20 January 2024 21:27 (two months ago) link

Vanceโ€™s recitation of this parody poem really is a delight:

THE PROTOPLASMIC CYCLE
Big floes have little floes all around about โ€™em, And all the yellow diatoms couldnโ€™t do without โ€™em.
Forty million shrimplets feed upon the latter, And they make the penguin and the seals and whales
Much fatter.
Along comes the Orca and kills these down below, While up above the Afterguard attack them on the floe:
And if a sailor tumbles in and stoves the mushy pack in, Heโ€™s crumpled up between the floes, and so they get their whack in.
Then thereโ€™s no doubt he soon becomes a patent fertilizer, invigorating diatoms, although theyโ€™re none the wiser,
So the protoplasm passes on its never-ceasing round, Like a huge recurring decimal โ€ฆ to which no end is found.


From โ€œThe Antarctic Exploration Anthology: The Personal Accounts of the Great Antarctic Explorers (Bybliotech Discovery Book 1)โ€ by Ernest Shackleton, Robert Falcon Scott, Roald Amundsen, Douglas Mawson, Apsley Cherry-Garrard)

a single gunshot and polite applause (Hunt3r), Saturday, 20 January 2024 23:55 (two months ago) link


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