Mr. Show with Bob and David: Genius or Overrated?

I just think it's kinda funny that reddit basically figured out 75% of the people photographed by like the 8th of January, but this has been out for 4 or 5 days now and the collective response is still, "welp, sure looks like him, but we'll never know".

yeah it always bums me out when ppl (often reddit) exhibit the thinking "[performer x] would never do that - they were on such-and-such show, and i imagine that everyone involved in that show is basically like me!"

"if you closely examine the subtle curvature of the left ear in photo #2, its proof that everyone who does a voice on bobs burgers would totally be my friend if we knew each other in real life!"

yeah shit like that happens sometimes. I happen to have a friend who looks very much like Nic Cage (though he's about 20 years younger) and he gets hounded all the time about it. in fact, many people don't believe him when he says he ISN'T Nic Cage, because they assume the real Nic Cage would say that as well. so yeah while it's very very likely it is him there's a small chance it wasn't. that said the fact that this guy hasn't put out a statement or had one of his friends do it says it all - I don't care that he's off Twitter, obviously he knows this is happening

your friend is totally Nic Cage

yeah for real, mr humblbrag over here. "i have this friend who looks just like nic cage, although he always denies it" ok ok we get it

frogbs's friend on a rural holiday:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6i2WRreARo

Speaking of humblebrag, people say I look like Aaron Rodgers but not so much that they wonder how I escaped Clonus.

you don't say???

https://i.imgur.com/kNXl5Jm.png

I got a book about how I keep doing stuff no matter what coming out pic.twitter.com/2YsJFSo31Z

— Mr. Bob Odenkirk (@mrbobodenkirk) April 28, 2021

I'll definitely check that out, dude has had such an interesting career arc.

Has there ever been anything else about Johnston, one way or another?

Eww, Girl, Eww

so was Jay at the insurrection? it seemed obvious but the story dried up after March

Damn

Doesn't Odenkirk have a new film? Is it out yet? From what I read about it, it seems like a pretty misguided vigilante action flick -- he said in an interview that he was inspired to do it because his house was burgled once. Okay, but right now in particular seems like really bad timing for that. He did also basically say that he regards Mr Show as a highlight of his career.

So much analysis of David Cross' personality here, heh. The Subpop CD was classic standup to me, but I stopped paying much attention after that. Aside from the bit about eating gold foil, the one about racist zombies seems like it was also quite rich. Although if I listened to it now, his liberal (sarcastic, but still) use of the N-word might ruin it.

Overall though I think he's a well-meaning guy, not nearly in the league of smug bitterness as Bill Maher. Cross reminds me very much of friends who were picked on a lot as kids, never had much of a support network, and who developed alcohol dependency as adults. That alcoholic perpetual bitterness is pretty distinctive IMO.

Odenkirk's movie is out, it's by ppl involved w/ John Wick so it's getting v postive reviews, and from what I've heard a big part of it is dude just wanting to live his life and the toxic masculinity of neighbours and his own son pushing him towards violence. Agree the timing's bad but I think it's been received as a fun action movie more than right-wing screed.

Nobody strenuously avoids any right-wing inflammatory content (he even has a buddy played by the RZA who helps him out) and makes the villains Russians, as safe a move as you can get. It's just a silly John Wick rip-off, no one could mistake it for Death Wish.

Saul I needed to hear

so was Jay at the insurrection? it seemed obvious but the story dried up after March

I've been wondering what happens if he somehow avoids charges and how long the people in that circle of comedy can avoid talking about it.

indefinitely? I don't think he has any projects going on so why would it need to come up?

maybe Jay was just trying to get directions on how to get AWAY from there

Odenkirk's movie is out, it's by ppl involved w/ John Wick so it's getting v postive reviews, and from what I've heard a big part of it is dude just wanting to live his life and the toxic masculinity of neighbours and his own son pushing him towards violence. Agree the timing's bad but I think it's been received as a fun action movie more than right-wing screed.

― Daniel_Rf, Friday, 25 June 2021 10:09 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

It builds along these lines, has a pretty cracking twist and everything in the last forty mins is nonsense

Fills a wick gap but don't go running to the cinema

Its not about toxic masculinity and it pretty much is a right wing screed

No more than the average violent yarn. I haven't heard of one conservative giving a shit about it, which in this climate is as good an indicator as any.

indefinitely? I don't think he has any projects going on so why would it need to come up?

well, he's at least a regular voice on Bob's Burgers as Jimmy Pesto and they have aired new episodes featuring his voice work without interruption after this broke in March.

that was supposed to be a block quote, oops

I've been wondering what happens if he somehow avoids charges and how long the people in that circle of comedy can avoid talking about it.

― Chris L, Friday, June 25, 2021 7:19 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

Andy Kindler and Sam Seder, who both also do voices on Bob's Burgers, have talked about it publicly and were pretty sure it was Jay in the photos.

Bob's Burgers episodes would have had their voice tracks recorded last year (if not earlier). If Johnston is not charged and his character is dropped from future seasons, that seems to be an appropriate implicit statement from the producers.

I've been wondering what happens if he somehow avoids charges and how long the people in that circle of comedy can avoid talking about it.

Adding to Daniel's point, if cast member PFT and writer Scott making jokes last month about 'attending the Mr Show reunion on 1/6 in Washington DC' count as avoiding talking about it, what else do you expect them to say?

I was skeptical on the basis of the photographic evidence but it appears there is also video, and well...

does he show up at a particular moment, in this 12-hour-long phone video, that we should skip to or

xp

Yes, he's hiding in the background of every shot, like Waldo!

Or it appears that timestamped YT links do not embed as they should. Advance to six minutes & 45 second into the video.

So much analysis of David Cross' personality here, heh. The Subpop CD was classic standup to me, but I stopped paying much attention after that. Aside from the bit about eating gold foil, the one about racist zombies seems like it was also quite rich. Although if I listened to it now, his liberal (sarcastic, but still) use of the N-word might ruin it.

Overall though I think he's a well-meaning guy, not nearly in the league of smug bitterness as Bill Maher. Cross reminds me very much of friends who were picked on a lot as kids, never had much of a support network, and who developed alcohol dependency as adults. That alcoholic perpetual bitterness is pretty distinctive IMO.

yea Cross is definitely better than Maher but his first 2 CDs (which I listened to endlessly in college) irritate me now because the targets he picks on are so easy. way to stick it to the guy from Creed, dude. also once you notice that he uses "fuck" a ton as a filler word you can't unhear it. still I think he gets some credit, "It's Not Funny" was the first post-9/11 set from a major comedian to really go all in on Bush wasn't it? nah, I'm probably missing something.

I will share what I know when I can but Bob is one of the strongest people I know both physically and spiritually. He WILL get through this.

— david cross✍ (@davidcrosss) July 28, 2021

Collapsed on set if I’m reading this correctly?

Better Call Saul

first comment on that seems to imply Odenkirk has cancer; is that something that is rumored or known? Or is that just typical twitter hyperbole making personal a situation about something entirely different>?

(first comment under David Cross' tweet)

Nah, that's not the sense I got, nor did I get the impression the commentator was privy to anything we don't know. I got the impression the commentator was simply saying that physical and spiritual strength can only carry you so far.

wishing him the best. he just went through a complete body overhaul for Nobody into action figure physique, so i presume they did a fair amount of blood work, etc while he was getting in shape and the fact that it's apparently unclear what the problem is makes it sound pretty serious.

welp: https://www.thedailybeast.com/actor-jay-johnston-banned-from-bobs-burgers-over-capitol-riot

Everest his earned goodwill and the thimbles his career now.

"banned" huh

It is a bit of a drag that Fox makes quite a few shows I like as ultimately giving any money to these motherfuckers is wrong.

Pretty much if the Simpsons had not have happened, would ANY of this Murdoch media shit gotten off the ground? Fox TV was circling the drain and pretty much the success of the Simpsons snowballed which gave them money to buy the NFL contract which snowballed into the news network.

But hey man, fight the fight I guess.

yup... i've been very quick to find any off-ramp for Fox/FX/etc programming I start to enjoy.

AT&T (HBO, TBS etc.) funds OANN, so it's not much different elsewhere.

The Simpsons killed democracy

I mean...it's legit to boycott Fox, but they're Disney now, and Fox News is a completely separate entity at this point. So Murdoch isn't gonna feel your sting, I'm afraid.

The regular Fox TV network isn't with Disney, who couldn't buy them because they already own ABC.

'80s-->'90s Fox was wild: Simpsons; Married...With Children; 21 Jump St.; In Living Color; Martin; 90210

Cops; America's Most Wanted

Werewolf