Regarding Momus

http://www.mr-c.me.uk/BlogImgs/candyman.jpg

????????????

you dumb motherfuckers can type and post as much as you want but I doubt you'll ever post anything as beautiful as this:

I'll tell you a funny story. I went to dinner in Japan at the house of a famous TV comedian, Suidobashi Hakase. He's a protege of Takeshi Kitano. It was quite a gathering, with legendary author and tattooed hardman Ishmaru Gensho also present. We tucked into sushi prepared by Hakase's bald manservant.
Hakase had just published a book in which all his friends narrated their early experiences with masturbation. Kitano and Gensho had whole chapters to themselves. In the middle of supper, my girlfriend announced that I was fond of gansha, a more modestly-scaled and intimate version of bukkake. I blushed, but Hakase and Gensho seemed delighted that I had taken the trouble to learn Japanese customs, and from that moment on I felt like they'd accepted me into their club.

Hakase later married Chie, one of the two girls with whom I was living at the time. She had first introduced herself to him with a playful photo of herself dribbling condensed milk from her mouth. Apparently this is quite a common method of flirtation -- a lover I had in Japan that same year produced, on our first date in a cafe in Nakameguro, a portfolio of photos of herself, one of which featured herself in an open white National Standard zip top, with some white substance trickling down her chin onto her breasts.

i don't know how the volume of his output (including WOW a BLOG) excuses some of the stuff he says that's actually pretty offensive (particularly to women, probably to others that i can't remember). he just gets away with it because he acts like he's just being "challenging" and he's artist and he wears skirts.

he also has contempt for the working class imo which fits in well with the m.o. of others around here maybe

It seems to me that bitchery and bastardy are mutually-reinforcing and contextual. Not only do we get the partners we deserve -- and in a sense create the partners we deserve -- but exactly the same person can be a beau one minute, a bastard the next. Only the perceptions -- and therefore the words -- change. I've lived just such transitions. They can be tragic, life-changing. I once -- suddenly, out of the blue -- smacked a girl in the face, a girl I adored, a girl I'd never shared a single discordant moment with up until that moment. I immediately knew that she would hate me forever from that moment on. "You're going to hate me forever now," I said. "I'm not," she said. But she did. And in the terrible, soul-destroying split that followed, she transformed from angel to bitch, and I turned from beau to bastard. But the funny thing is, neither of us really changed one iota.

to be fair, anyone who thinks this paragraph is the work of a cunt is definitely just sexist and or jealous of the guy's media connections

"beautiful"

gtfo

to be fair, anyone who thinks this paragraph is the work of a cunt

its the work of an asshole who hits women

he's just a poor man's brian eno, isn't he?

more like a scottish jackson browne

i don't know how the volume of his output (including WOW a BLOG) excuses some of the stuff he says that's actually pretty offensive (particularly to women, probably to others that i can't remember). he just gets away with it because he acts like he's just being "challenging" and he's artist and he wears skirts.

― harbl, Wednesday, May 27, 2009 10:20 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark

This is exactly what I was asking about (my question upthread was a genuine question). I've never read anything he's written that I consider offensive. Does anyone have any specific examples?

its the work of an asshole who hits women

Which is exactly what he's saying in that paragraph.

that paragraph is really not saying anything interesting

surprise, an asshole who acknowledges being an asshole is still an asshole

not "interesting" - never smacking a girl across the face
"interesting" - smacking a girl across the face and then recontextualizing it into your own soul-shattering event in which the girl herself is a bitch and you're in pain to this day

it's a shame the other girl was such a bitch about getting hit in the face though

xp

it reads like, 'i can't believe you hit me!' followed by, 'i'm sorry, i can't believe it either. i guess we're both assholes huh...'

apparently immediately forgiving his abuse = not "angelic" enough

guys, he was challenging her, the lucky bitch

but "bitch" is just a term, fluid in its interpretations and applications depending on the circumstances of the individuals involved blah blah blah

seriously fuck this guy I'm glad he's gone

apparently immediately forgiving his abuse = not "angelic" enough

― Wrinkles, I'll See You On the Other Side (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, May 27, 2009 10:41 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

But she DIDN'T. And it seems to me he's implying she had every right to be a bitch.

"i knew glenn ford, glenn ford was a friend of mine....."
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a190/jamawalk2/Slapped-by-Glenn-Ford-640.jpg

bastard and bitch in his writing there are equal, when in essence he was a bastard because he hit her and she was a bitch because she was angry about getting hit. not to mention that "bastard" is a kind of roguish term in some respects and "bitch" is more demeaning.

I disagreed with Momus about pretty much everything & his contempt for the working class (however else he & his pals care to characterize it, that's how it parsed to me & many others) was really super-icky, but I enjoyed batting ideas around with him, and he really was more provocateur than troll. I know Suzy is too close to him to not protect him when people call him sexist (which I think he is, however nice he may be to the women who are his friends) or racist (which is a serious allegation, and one which I don't think fits him, exactly, but white guys arguing for "post-racial" politics are always gonna be a bit ripe & the white guys who refuse to cop to that need a good "shaddup, you" on the regular), and to be honest when she gets all "come at Momus and I will fucking cut you" like she does it makes me think "man if you got Suzy in your corner you don't need to worry" which, like, a solid friend in this world is a beautiful thing but I mean...there's a limit to how much you can defend a person's ideas when they count as a close personal friend, isn't there?

so on balance I miss having him around and always feel guilty that he's not here because I remember when everybody except him had figured out that I was posting under a pseud, and as a narcissist I always assumed that sort of "MOMUS YOU DUMMY THAT'S J0HN D." bit was part of what drove him off, the end.

the jews had every right to be such bitches about that holocaust thing

wow, the "you're just jealous" retort. didn't think people actually did that anymore.

you should read more suzy posts.

late folk legend john denver

I will post until the grave learns how to stop me

What movie is that picture from? Is it a good movie to watch or was that still the best part?

The movie is Candyman and it is considered highly by many.

Erin Gray Slapped by Glenn Ford!

I saw Harpo Marx ram Oprah W. aside!

Candyman is a beautiful and heartbreaking movie.

I don't recall any of Momus' anti-working class screeds - anyone got any examples?

Momus has an igloo. None of YOU people have an igloo.

hence the jealousy

this stuff is hard to search for but this one is cute to me since i have a degree in a "technical thing" and he doesn't

I was in a video store today and saw a brief clip from a new film onscreen. It was Jody Foster in a plane. There was some kind of emergency, and she was responding by doing amazingly technical things, opening fuseboxes, making the oxygen masks fall down, demonstrating great technical prowess. And it struck me that while this was in some ways a "feminist" scene, showing women as bright and empowered, it was also a sort of misogyny. Because it showed a woman doing things that, in real life, women tend to be worse at than men. Technical things. It was a lie, a lie about women. It said "Women are as good at technical stuff as men. This is where their power lies. In out-manning men."

...uh...

that's pretty inexcusable

i wonder what momus would do if there was an emergency while he was jet-setting about the world

Hopefully there wouldn't be any lying women!

blog for the ingrates

ugh

Oh Momuspaws.

i wonder what momus would do if there was an emergency while he was jet-setting about the world

masturbate furiously, I imagine

Maybe what he's trying to say is 'movies that espouse outdated feminism in that women can only be fulfilled by excelling at traditionally male roles are actually misogynistic'?

But when I read it again, it really reads more like 'haw haw, girlz suck at electroniks'

n real life, women tend to be worse at than men. Technical things.

look, there's no way to defend this. it's grade-A bullshit, not supported by science or logic.

Because it showed a woman doing things that, in real life, women tend to be worse at than men. Technical things. It was a lie, a lie about women. It said "Women are as good at technical stuff as men. This is where their power lies. In out-manning men."

the thing about this quote is-- i got annoyed at Momus, when he was here, because he would say things like this, things which are at least empirically untrue about me and the women I know (or me and the [class of people i belong to] i know), and it upset me quite a lot, because I realised that for the purposes of his arguments I was not a woman. So I could never appropriately deal with the bit where he said something useful, or interesting (there is something in there, about the acceptable face of female success in the movies, the woman who is too-strong), because I'd been so successfully trolled into outraged silence.

It may not be supported by science or logic or historical fact but it sort of hangs together if you think of Momus' definition of "women" (at least while arguing/grandstanding) not being "people who consider themselves women" - it's more like "people who conform to certain standards of femininity". The standards just happen to be his ones. being good at technical stuff = male, being gentle of speech = female, etc.

well it is like he read some stuff about "difference feminism" and decided to misinterpret all of it so where it used to say "we shouldn't devalue so-called 'womanly' traits" now it says "it's better to accept that women just can't do certain things because that's how they are," which is just ugh, thanks for your "help" man