Regarding Momus

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So sue him for not going to Park Slope ever? xpost

I think it's pretty generous to serve as a strawman for five years to a bunch of underachievers dissembling their own sexism and racism by going lol dude likes Japanese girls. I'm sure working on a handful of columns, two books, various art projects, LPs and a blog is much more satisfying than having to wade through douchey, reductive challenges just to have a decent exchange of opinions with the couple of dozen people he actually respects here.

don't fear the freeper (suzy), Wednesday, 27 May 2009 21:19 (fifteen years ago) link

Can I sidetrack the thread to ask who was the sadistic asshat who came up with the idea of the hairshirt?

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, March 10, 2004 11:50 AM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

same guy who invented the sadistic asshat

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Wednesday, March 10, 2004 11:57 AM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

respect

Obama seems to have the views of a 21-year-old Hispanic girl (HI DERE), Wednesday, 27 May 2009 21:20 (fifteen years ago) link

MomoM vs. suMus : fite!

http://i44.tinypic.com/167ms7c.jpg http://i41.tinypic.com/ll6dz.jpg

StanM, Wednesday, 27 May 2009 21:29 (fifteen years ago) link

(um sorry, carry on)

StanM, Wednesday, 27 May 2009 21:30 (fifteen years ago) link

zomg how can I get hired to be a blowhard for a living?

otoh not sure I'd meet the job reqs.

cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Wednesday, 27 May 2009 21:53 (fifteen years ago) link

I liked Momus and always wished I cld live his life, which looks pretty fun!

cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Wednesday, 27 May 2009 21:54 (fifteen years ago) link

I think it's pretty generous to serve as a strawman for five years to a bunch of underachievers dissembling their own sexism and racism by going lol dude likes Japanese girls. I'm sure working on a handful of columns, two books, various art projects, LPs and a blog is much more satisfying than having to wade through douchey, reductive challenges just to have a decent exchange of opinions with the couple of dozen people he actually respects here.

wow, the "you're just jealous" retort. didn't think people actually did that anymore.

xpost: zomg how can I get hired to be a blowhard for a living?

otoh not sure I'd meet the job reqs.

blow. hard!

brian krakow has a posse (bug), Wednesday, 27 May 2009 21:58 (fifteen years ago) link

he's like an effete candyman!

― Wyndham Earl

blair underwood: "man up" (omar little), Wednesday, 27 May 2009 22:00 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.mr-c.me.uk/BlogImgs/candyman.jpg

????????????

cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Wednesday, 27 May 2009 22:13 (fifteen years ago) link

you dumb motherfuckers can type and post as much as you want but I doubt you'll ever post anything as beautiful as this:

I'll tell you a funny story. I went to dinner in Japan at the house of a famous TV comedian, Suidobashi Hakase. He's a protege of Takeshi Kitano. It was quite a gathering, with legendary author and tattooed hardman Ishmaru Gensho also present. We tucked into sushi prepared by Hakase's bald manservant.
Hakase had just published a book in which all his friends narrated their early experiences with masturbation. Kitano and Gensho had whole chapters to themselves. In the middle of supper, my girlfriend announced that I was fond of gansha, a more modestly-scaled and intimate version of bukkake. I blushed, but Hakase and Gensho seemed delighted that I had taken the trouble to learn Japanese customs, and from that moment on I felt like they'd accepted me into their club.

Hakase later married Chie, one of the two girls with whom I was living at the time. She had first introduced herself to him with a playful photo of herself dribbling condensed milk from her mouth. Apparently this is quite a common method of flirtation -- a lover I had in Japan that same year produced, on our first date in a cafe in Nakameguro, a portfolio of photos of herself, one of which featured herself in an open white National Standard zip top, with some white substance trickling down her chin onto her breasts.

cool app (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 27 May 2009 22:20 (fifteen years ago) link

i don't know how the volume of his output (including WOW a BLOG) excuses some of the stuff he says that's actually pretty offensive (particularly to women, probably to others that i can't remember). he just gets away with it because he acts like he's just being "challenging" and he's artist and he wears skirts.

harbl, Wednesday, 27 May 2009 22:20 (fifteen years ago) link

he also has contempt for the working class imo which fits in well with the m.o. of others around here maybe

blair underwood: "man up" (omar little), Wednesday, 27 May 2009 22:25 (fifteen years ago) link

It seems to me that bitchery and bastardy are mutually-reinforcing and contextual. Not only do we get the partners we deserve -- and in a sense create the partners we deserve -- but exactly the same person can be a beau one minute, a bastard the next. Only the perceptions -- and therefore the words -- change. I've lived just such transitions. They can be tragic, life-changing. I once -- suddenly, out of the blue -- smacked a girl in the face, a girl I adored, a girl I'd never shared a single discordant moment with up until that moment. I immediately knew that she would hate me forever from that moment on. "You're going to hate me forever now," I said. "I'm not," she said. But she did. And in the terrible, soul-destroying split that followed, she transformed from angel to bitch, and I turned from beau to bastard. But the funny thing is, neither of us really changed one iota.

to be fair, anyone who thinks this paragraph is the work of a cunt is definitely just sexist and or jealous of the guy's media connections

EMPIRE STATE HYMEN (MPx4A), Wednesday, 27 May 2009 22:30 (fifteen years ago) link

"beautiful"

gtfo

Wrinkles, I'll See You On the Other Side (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 27 May 2009 22:30 (fifteen years ago) link

to be fair, anyone who thinks this paragraph is the work of a cunt

its the work of an asshole who hits women

Wrinkles, I'll See You On the Other Side (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 27 May 2009 22:31 (fifteen years ago) link

he's just a poor man's brian eno, isn't he?

iatee, Wednesday, 27 May 2009 22:33 (fifteen years ago) link

more like a scottish jackson browne

velko, Wednesday, 27 May 2009 22:34 (fifteen years ago) link

i don't know how the volume of his output (including WOW a BLOG) excuses some of the stuff he says that's actually pretty offensive (particularly to women, probably to others that i can't remember). he just gets away with it because he acts like he's just being "challenging" and he's artist and he wears skirts.

― harbl, Wednesday, May 27, 2009 10:20 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark

This is exactly what I was asking about (my question upthread was a genuine question). I've never read anything he's written that I consider offensive. Does anyone have any specific examples?

touch my bum / this is life (daavid), Wednesday, 27 May 2009 22:35 (fifteen years ago) link

its the work of an asshole who hits women

Which is exactly what he's saying in that paragraph.

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 27 May 2009 22:38 (fifteen years ago) link

that paragraph is really not saying anything interesting

Ømår Littel (Jordan), Wednesday, 27 May 2009 22:39 (fifteen years ago) link

surprise, an asshole who acknowledges being an asshole is still an asshole

Wrinkles, I'll See You On the Other Side (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 27 May 2009 22:39 (fifteen years ago) link

not "interesting" - never smacking a girl across the face
"interesting" - smacking a girl across the face and then recontextualizing it into your own soul-shattering event in which the girl herself is a bitch and you're in pain to this day

blair underwood: "man up" (omar little), Wednesday, 27 May 2009 22:40 (fifteen years ago) link

it's a shame the other girl was such a bitch about getting hit in the face though

EMPIRE STATE HYMEN (MPx4A), Wednesday, 27 May 2009 22:40 (fifteen years ago) link

xp

EMPIRE STATE HYMEN (MPx4A), Wednesday, 27 May 2009 22:40 (fifteen years ago) link

it reads like, 'i can't believe you hit me!' followed by, 'i'm sorry, i can't believe it either. i guess we're both assholes huh...'

blair underwood: "man up" (omar little), Wednesday, 27 May 2009 22:41 (fifteen years ago) link

apparently immediately forgiving his abuse = not "angelic" enough

Wrinkles, I'll See You On the Other Side (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 27 May 2009 22:41 (fifteen years ago) link

guys, he was challenging her, the lucky bitch

U2 raped goat (darraghmac), Wednesday, 27 May 2009 22:43 (fifteen years ago) link

but "bitch" is just a term, fluid in its interpretations and applications depending on the circumstances of the individuals involved blah blah blah

seriously fuck this guy I'm glad he's gone

Wrinkles, I'll See You On the Other Side (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 27 May 2009 22:44 (fifteen years ago) link

apparently immediately forgiving his abuse = not "angelic" enough

― Wrinkles, I'll See You On the Other Side (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, May 27, 2009 10:41 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

But she DIDN'T. And it seems to me he's implying she had every right to be a bitch.

touch my bum / this is life (daavid), Wednesday, 27 May 2009 22:46 (fifteen years ago) link

"i knew glenn ford, glenn ford was a friend of mine....."
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a190/jamawalk2/Slapped-by-Glenn-Ford-640.jpg

velko, Wednesday, 27 May 2009 22:46 (fifteen years ago) link

bastard and bitch in his writing there are equal, when in essence he was a bastard because he hit her and she was a bitch because she was angry about getting hit. not to mention that "bastard" is a kind of roguish term in some respects and "bitch" is more demeaning.

blair underwood: "man up" (omar little), Wednesday, 27 May 2009 22:47 (fifteen years ago) link

I disagreed with Momus about pretty much everything & his contempt for the working class (however else he & his pals care to characterize it, that's how it parsed to me & many others) was really super-icky, but I enjoyed batting ideas around with him, and he really was more provocateur than troll. I know Suzy is too close to him to not protect him when people call him sexist (which I think he is, however nice he may be to the women who are his friends) or racist (which is a serious allegation, and one which I don't think fits him, exactly, but white guys arguing for "post-racial" politics are always gonna be a bit ripe & the white guys who refuse to cop to that need a good "shaddup, you" on the regular), and to be honest when she gets all "come at Momus and I will fucking cut you" like she does it makes me think "man if you got Suzy in your corner you don't need to worry" which, like, a solid friend in this world is a beautiful thing but I mean...there's a limit to how much you can defend a person's ideas when they count as a close personal friend, isn't there?

so on balance I miss having him around and always feel guilty that he's not here because I remember when everybody except him had figured out that I was posting under a pseud, and as a narcissist I always assumed that sort of "MOMUS YOU DUMMY THAT'S J0HN D." bit was part of what drove him off, the end.

worm? lol (J0hn D.), Wednesday, 27 May 2009 22:49 (fifteen years ago) link

the jews had every right to be such bitches about that holocaust thing

EMPIRE STATE HYMEN (MPx4A), Wednesday, 27 May 2009 22:50 (fifteen years ago) link

wow, the "you're just jealous" retort. didn't think people actually did that anymore.

you should read more suzy posts.

FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Wednesday, 27 May 2009 22:50 (fifteen years ago) link

late folk legend john denver

blair underwood: "man up" (omar little), Wednesday, 27 May 2009 22:51 (fifteen years ago) link

I will post until the grave learns how to stop me

worm? lol (J0hn D.), Wednesday, 27 May 2009 22:52 (fifteen years ago) link

What movie is that picture from? Is it a good movie to watch or was that still the best part?

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 27 May 2009 22:53 (fifteen years ago) link

The movie is Candyman and it is considered highly by many.

cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Wednesday, 27 May 2009 22:54 (fifteen years ago) link

Erin Gray Slapped by Glenn Ford!

velko, Wednesday, 27 May 2009 22:55 (fifteen years ago) link

I saw Harpo Marx ram Oprah W. aside!

cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Wednesday, 27 May 2009 22:56 (fifteen years ago) link

Candyman is a beautiful and heartbreaking movie.

scott seward, Wednesday, 27 May 2009 22:58 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't recall any of Momus' anti-working class screeds - anyone got any examples?

Wrinkles, I'll See You On the Other Side (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 27 May 2009 22:59 (fifteen years ago) link

Momus has an igloo. None of YOU people have an igloo.

scott seward, Wednesday, 27 May 2009 23:00 (fifteen years ago) link

hence the jealousy

U2 raped goat (darraghmac), Wednesday, 27 May 2009 23:01 (fifteen years ago) link

this stuff is hard to search for but this one is cute to me since i have a degree in a "technical thing" and he doesn't

I was in a video store today and saw a brief clip from a new film onscreen. It was Jody Foster in a plane. There was some kind of emergency, and she was responding by doing amazingly technical things, opening fuseboxes, making the oxygen masks fall down, demonstrating great technical prowess. And it struck me that while this was in some ways a "feminist" scene, showing women as bright and empowered, it was also a sort of misogyny. Because it showed a woman doing things that, in real life, women tend to be worse at than men. Technical things. It was a lie, a lie about women. It said "Women are as good at technical stuff as men. This is where their power lies. In out-manning men."

harbl, Wednesday, 27 May 2009 23:03 (fifteen years ago) link

...uh...

cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Wednesday, 27 May 2009 23:05 (fifteen years ago) link

that's pretty inexcusable

cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Wednesday, 27 May 2009 23:06 (fifteen years ago) link

i wonder what momus would do if there was an emergency while he was jet-setting about the world

harbl, Wednesday, 27 May 2009 23:07 (fifteen years ago) link

Hopefully there wouldn't be any lying women!

cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Wednesday, 27 May 2009 23:08 (fifteen years ago) link

blog for the ingrates

U2 raped goat (darraghmac), Wednesday, 27 May 2009 23:08 (fifteen years ago) link


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