running would seem to involve greater work if you account for vertical movement
― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 02:35 (fifteen years ago) link
joggers are just much bouncier than walkers
― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 02:39 (fifteen years ago) link
right that's why you get the marginal difference, stuff like that and how your body works, but in general it's close enough to say running is not really much "harder" in terms of calories burned per mile
― HHooHHHooHH-oob (harbl), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 02:39 (fifteen years ago) link
i mean i don't know why i care but don't beat yourself up over it zs
guys
work = force x distance
force = mass x acceleration
so you guys are asserting that a walker is accelerating at the same rate as a runner
― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 02:46 (fifteen years ago) link
and by you guys i guess i mean harbl & kevin
― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 02:48 (fifteen years ago) link
Don't worry harbl, I've already moved on to typing challenges.
― I f'd up the word rear (Z S), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 02:50 (fifteen years ago) link
hm
i mean, it's safe to assume they're both going at a constant speed, right, so acc. is negligible? boy i've forgotten just about everything wrt physics :(
― moonship journey to 51 (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 02:53 (fifteen years ago) link
that might actually not be why, but i'm fairly confident the same work is done running and walking, at least horizontally
― moonship journey to 51 (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 02:56 (fifteen years ago) link
you guys are all wrong
― caek, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 03:37 (fifteen years ago) link
why
― HHooHHHooHH-oob (harbl), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 11:15 (fifteen years ago) link
u guys people do not burn calories srsly - calories are a measure of how things catch on fire - the human body is not a fire and is subject to all sorts of weird metabolic quirks - how much energy someone expends doing a particular exercise has to do w/not only what theyre doing but all sorts of other variables particular to the person - what sort of shape theyre in what their metabolism is like what sort of exercise theyre used to what they ate that morning etc
anyway speaking as someone who has run and walked a lot this whole running is just as good as walking assertion just seems like bullshit on the face of it
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 13:27 (fifteen years ago) link
no one said running "is just as good as" walking silly
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 13:28 (fifteen years ago) link
thats a concise insightful summery of their argument
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 13:33 (fifteen years ago) link
i think u meant "summary"
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 13:34 (fifteen years ago) link
"summery" is an adjective that means of or pertaining to summer
u can never fully understand what i mean because my thoughts are too deep
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 13:35 (fifteen years ago) link
but yes summer is a good time for running or walking
sigh
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 13:40 (fifteen years ago) link
if i get into explaining mechanics and force and energy i feel like i'm going to end up screaming "WINDMILLS DO NOT WORK THAT WAY"
― caek, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 13:52 (fifteen years ago) link
what about the windmills of your mind
― Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 13:54 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.depts.drew.edu/engl/events/marathon/PicassoDonQuixoteSancho.jpgilx^
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 13:55 (fifteen years ago) link
Doctor Steve Brule with another science tip for ya:If yer walkin' at a faster pace, yer actually runnin', ya turkey!Now hit the showers.FOR YOUR HEALTH
― WOOKIE JOHNSON (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 13:55 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.punkrockcds.com/images/Descendents-Somery.jpg
― I probably just wasted some more energy in my fingers telling you guys (stevie), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 14:04 (fifteen years ago) link
Hey guys, is this the calorie counting thread?
― •--• --- --- •--• (Pleasant Plains), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 14:54 (fifteen years ago) link
-30 w/o cheese
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 14:56 (fifteen years ago) link
applauso
― 14 karat gold steen computer wizard (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 14:58 (fifteen years ago) link
stop biting you fatties
― bnw, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 14:58 (fifteen years ago) link
Uh, I meant to say that slow poke McGee was doing a 15-minute mile up there, not a 5-minute mile. If McGee was doing a 5-minute mile he'd be Yippidadee McGee, not a slow poke.
http://www.derok.net/images/legends/elijah%20wood%20mouth.jpg
― I f'd up the word rear (Z S), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 15:11 (fifteen years ago) link
you don't have to be an astronomer or astrologist or astronaut or whatever to get this though--it's hs-level physics and i don't think it involves windmills either. but whatever!
― HHooHHHooHH-oob (harbl), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 15:30 (fifteen years ago) link
whatever whatever
http://morbo.ytmnd.com/
― caek, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 15:30 (fifteen years ago) link
its not really high school level physics
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 15:38 (fifteen years ago) link
ok i'm stupid i guess
― HHooHHHooHH-oob (harbl), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 15:40 (fifteen years ago) link
basically this idea what work is a function only of distance moved is fine if there's no friction or heat or whatever. the problem is none of those assumptions are even remotely justified when you've got a human body involved (i am an expert on the human body, ladies). all you can say with HS physics is that running and walking in an imaginary world where human bodies have no joints and are infinitely small uses the same energy (although how you'd actually move in this world without friction is another matter).
― caek, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 15:44 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2580/exercise-does-running-burn-more-calories-than-walking
― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 15:44 (fifteen years ago) link
moving in a frictionless world:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b2/Skaters_showing_newtons_third_law.svg
― caek, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 15:45 (fifteen years ago) link
lol SVG
― caek, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 15:46 (fifteen years ago) link
yes i am talking about an imaginary world though!!!!
― HHooHHHooHH-oob (harbl), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 15:46 (fifteen years ago) link
oh cool!
― caek, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 15:47 (fifteen years ago) link
all you can say with HS physics is that running and walking in an imaginary world where human bodies have no joints and are infinitely small uses the same energy (although how you'd actually move in this world without friction is another matter).
caek is this the science talk reason why gargamel could never catch the smurfs???? ps the smurfs moved by kinda windmilling their little feet u can see this discussed in peer-reviewed journal youtube.com pretty sure
― Lamp, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 15:51 (fifteen years ago) link
Finally someone addresses the 800 pound gorilla Smurf question!
― I f'd up the word rear (Z S), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 15:56 (fifteen years ago) link
yes lamp. that is pretty much the reason. the smurf's moved using newton's 3rd law in their frictionless world.
also, keeping it positive, i saw this photo just as Jane by Jefferson Star came on and i liked it so i'm posting it here:
http://external.ak.fbcdn.net/safe_image.php?d=b93d7aacadadcbdb7c4898ea16bff6dd&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.chicagotribune.com%2Fmedia%2Fphoto%2F2009-02%2F45295889.jpg
― caek, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 16:03 (fifteen years ago) link
thanks 4 vital smurf info
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 16:19 (fifteen years ago) link
You gotta let this one go, dogg...
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The sound of Nirvana
Chris Blackwell produced their best work. :)
― Geir Hongro, Wednesday, March 25, 2009 6:14 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
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Nirvana C/D
Classic! "The Story Of Simon Simopath" and "All Of Us" were both excellent albums! ;)
― Geir Hongro, Wednesday, June 27, 2007 6:12 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
BEST Nirvana Song
I have to be very unoriginal here and say "Smells Like Teen Spirit". Really, there is something very special about that song, and there was a reason why it singlehandedly brought "alternative" music out into the mainstream.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, February 9, 2007 8:45 AM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban PermalinkAlthough "Tiny Godess" was surely a good call too :)
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, February 9, 2007 8:46 AM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Nirvana - The original C/D?
I always tend to tell those "In Utero"/"Nevermind" fans that the best two Nirvana albums were called "The Story Of Simon Simopath" and "All Of Us"
― Geir Hongro, Friday, April 6, 2007 11:18 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― otm morello (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 23:52 (fifteen years ago) link
good one
― Dan I., Thursday, 26 March 2009 03:13 (fifteen years ago) link
Geir belongs on the "Weird jokes your uncle makes but no one except your aunt gets it" thread.
― I f'd up the word rear (Z S), Thursday, 26 March 2009 03:18 (fifteen years ago) link
Whiney is geir's aunt?
― carne asada, Thursday, 26 March 2009 03:20 (fifteen years ago) link
the emoticon on three out of four of them is a little heartbreaking
― otm morello (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 26 March 2009 03:33 (fifteen years ago) link
haha whiney i noticed that last time i was looking up nirvana on ilm
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Thursday, 26 March 2009 12:53 (fifteen years ago) link