al ship's top 50 pop singles of the 00s -- which is your favorite? (other than SUBG)

kylie i guess

blurbs very much in character:

Britney is on the short list of pop stars who became so hugely iconic that they were at some point pretty much synonymous with pop music itself. And she'd easily be the worst singles artist on that list. Of her early bombastic Max Martin hits, only "(You Drive Me Crazy)" would get anywhere near this list if it'd been released a few months later, and ever since then it's been a parade of subpar tracks from hip hop producers and desperate attempts to jump on various dance subgenre bandwagons. But it's not the music or the vision, but simply Britney's stupid duck cartoon voice that makes her merely mediocre tracks unbearable. This song is pretty dope, though.

43. The Veronicas - "Untouched"
41. Nelly Furtado - "Powerless (Say What You Want)"
28. The Pussycat Dolls f/ Snoop Dogg - "Buttons"
10. Christina Aguilera - "Beautiful"

one of these

wtf is Paris Hilton doing on this list

also, "I'm A Slave 4 U" is still Britney's best single

Not a great list. Toxic by a mile.

there are a bunch of good songs on this list

i don't know what to smh at first

I like that Dido song, gonna vote for it; I have it in a karaoke video game & and it's fun to warble to. kinda shocked it's this decade though!

Ashlee Simpson - "La La"
The All-American Rejects - "Move Along"
The Veronicas - "Untouched"

^prob my 3 favs; there are a lot of songs here id be happy never hearing again tbh

i don't know what to smh at first

― chairfuckers union (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, May 6, 2011 10:39 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i'm smhing at YOU first

i'm smhing at your FACE

Not a great list. Toxic by a mile.

― daavid, Friday, May 6, 2011 10:32 PM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

and you

i'm smhing at your SOUL whiney

I voted Bad Romance. Just seemed like something I would do.

i'm allergic to maroon 5 but a pretty solid top ten otherwise. (i also like a good deal of these more than SUBG)

50. N Sync - "Pop"
49. Kelly Clarkson - "Walk Away"
48. Fergie - "Clumsy"
45. Christina Aguilera - “Fighter”
43. The Veronicas - "Untouched"
42. Dido - "White Flag"
40. Dream - “He Loves U Not”
37. Paris Hilton - "Nothing In This World"
34. Ashlee Simpson - "La La"
33. Avril Lavigne - "Sk8er Boi"
30. Fergie f/ will.i.am - "Fergalicious"
28. The Pussycat Dolls f/ Snoop Dogg - "Buttons"
27. No Doubt - "Hella Good"
24. Demi Lovato - “Don’t Forget”
22. Kelly Clarkson - "Breakaway"
18. Fergie - "London Bridge"
17. Hilary Duff - "Come Clean"
16. Shakira f/ Alejandro Sanz - "La Tortura"
14. Nelly Furtado - "I'm Like A Bird"
13. N Sync - "Bye Bye Bye"
10. Christina Aguilera - "Beautiful"
9. Madonna - "Don’t Tell Me"
7. Avril Lavigne - "Complicated"
6. Britney Spears - "Toxic"
4. Lady Gaga - "Bad Romance"
3. Vanessa Carlton - "A Thousand Miles"
2. Kylie Minogue - "Love At First Sight"

^^i'll actively rep for all those songs - that's quite a lot, which makes this a strong list in my eyes. "toxic" is one of the lesser numbers in there, tbh.

with pop it's always obvious which are the "approved" songs it's "okay" to like, whether because they became pop culture monoliths through sheer force of commerce or because of dodgier indiecrit reasons - but the fact that people have such kneejerk reactions is really proof that basic antipathy towards pop and its perceived unartisticness/shallowness has never gone away

also why take out "since u been gone"? that is also towards the lesser numbers in this list imo

because ILM is massively, disproportionally in love with that song

it's not even the best single off its parent album!!!

hey i thought i'd be the only one voting for Dido but apparently not. my list wouldn't look much like this but it's alright.

i mean it is very very good obv but when i see the disproportionate love i always wondered whether those people had ever heard another kelly clarkson song (or just another chart pop song, really)

it's not even the best single off its parent album!!!

― lex pretend, Friday, May 6, 2011 11:10 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

the point wasnt to remove the best songs, iirc

Kelly was omnipresent during this time period; I think it's safe to say everyone who heard SYBG has heard at least 2 or 3 other Kelly Clarkson singles

i always wondered whether those people had ever heard another kelly clarkson song (or just another chart pop song, really)

we're all listening to bob dylan

i wonder if al shipley has heard any other chart pop songs

50. N Sync - "Pop"
36. Ricky Martin - "She Bangs"
27. No Doubt - "Hella Good"
16. Shakira f/ Alejandro Sanz - "La Tortura"
13. N Sync - "Bye Bye Bye"
10. Christina Aguilera - "Beautiful"
8. Black Eyed Peas - "I Gotta Feeling"
7. Avril Lavigne - "Complicated"
6. Britney Spears - "Toxic"
1. Kelly Clarkson - "Since U Been Gone"

^ i dunno, probably somewhere in there?

ha thanks for starting the thread k3v! i was hoping j0rdan would start a thread but my pride wouldn't let me ask him to or do it myself

even though i had another thread with a similar exclusion -- the Dr. Luke hits poll (no "Since U Been Gone" allowed) -- i kinda wish SUBG was an option, just in keeping with the other threads on these lists

i don't know what to smh at first

― chairfuckers union (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, May 6, 2011 6:39 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

my impression of your taste is that you don't much like this kind of music at all and there's not much point in defending any choices to you, is there?

Top Ten:

2. Kylie Minogue - "Love At First Sight"
43. The Veronicas - "Untouched"
17. Hilary Duff - "Come Clean"
3. Vanessa Carlton - "A Thousand Miles"
28. The Pussycat Dolls f/ Snoop Dogg - "Buttons"
4. Lady Gaga - "Bad Romance"
5. Maroon 5 - "Makes Me Wonder"
40. Dream - “He Loves U Not”
6. Britney Spears - "Toxic"
27. No Doubt - "Hella Good"

11. Sara Bareilles - "Love Song"

http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=77&threadid=65327

actual vote is 4 'come clean' but kinda lol @ putting 'i gotta feeling' above 'london bridge' - i mean i get it, the former culturally a bigger deal & has become a staple in a way that 'london bridge' never cld but damn if that latter is just so fukken bonkers better

in early drafts "London Bridge" was higher than "I Gotta Feeling," was kind of a last minute change and i won't necessarily defend it

i think both those songs blow so

overall i like prob a 3rd of these to some degree or another? maybe a lil more than that. not complaining

N Sync - "Bye Bye Bye
Britney Spears - "Toxic"
Lady Gaga - "Bad Romance"
Kylie Minogue - "Love At First Sight"

like/love these. voted Kylie. not a strong list imo

i will say there are a whole bunch where i would pick another song by the same artist

"Glamorous" > "Fergalicious" = "Clumsy" > "London Bridge"

Not a great list.

― daavid, Friday, May 6, 2011 6:32 PM (2 hours ago)

not a strong list imo

― gospodin simmel, Friday, May 6, 2011 9:26 PM (1 minute ago)

not to be defensive, but i am curious what exactly this means -- in comparison to the other lists i've done for other genres, in comparison to what your personal top 50 would be, etc.?

"Glamorous" is great too, kind of lost a coinflip in the 'ok i'm gonna just have three Fergie singles instead of four'

i like to hear what omissions people prefer, name names!

i think - moreso than with your rap or r&b lists - the fact that you actually engage fully with this kind of music and have your own unique taste and approach to it means your list is going to be personal and throw off others who would just prefer the canon. you got similar reactions to your rock list iirc

not to be defensive, but i am curious what exactly this means -- in comparison to the other lists i've done for other genres, in comparison to what your personal top 50 would be, etc.?

most of yr other top 50 lists felt like a better overview of the genres they were covering even granting the fact that theyre expressions of personal taste this one is too scattershot & its interpretation of 'pop' is probably too narrow

also most of the songs are just really terrible so

what would be a broader interpretation of 'pop' though? what artists did i give the shaft?

actually, and i'm not going to go to your other lists to back this up but, i'd bet you have more repeat artists on this list than any other one? seems kind of light on novelty hits too, which is probably what most people expect when they're about to read a pop list

yeah there's definitely a lot of repeat artists here and it's very much a product of my favorites and biases, i will cop to that. i'm just curious what definition of contemporary pop (not counting stuff on the other lists) could make this list seem 'narrow,' just because for me Norah Jones and All-American Rejects and the Shakira and Feist and Fergie and Dido span a pretty wide spectrum.

well you couldve included more old ppl/lol yuppie pop - 'leave your boyfriends behind' charted didnt it? or that irish piano ballad - but its also weird that stuff like 'gold digger' or 'crazy' doesnt 'count'. theres also all the pop country trax that were giant hits idk looking at the billboard top 100 for the last decade so many of the songs were covered in yr rap & rnb lists so, sure, youre drawing from a narrower pool.

really the biggest exclusion were sorta-indie trax that seemed to 'cross over' imo

sugar ray

Feist was kind of my token representative for indie crossover -- how many other examples of that are there, though, that wouldn't have fit better on the rock list?

I like this list. Off the top of my head my own list probably would include:

Britney Spears - Born To Make You Happy (00s by a whisker)
Backstreet Boys - Shape Of My Heart
Taylor Swift - "Love Story" and "Tim McGraw"
Justin Timberlake - Rock Your Body
Jessica Simpson - A Public Affair (and maybe "I Think I'm In Love")
Kylie Minogue - The One
Daniel Bedingfield - If You're Not The One
Madonna - Get Together
Blue - If You Come Back In My Life
Mandy Moore - I Wanna Be With You
Shakira - Objection (Tango)

Probably wouldn't please Lamp though. I'm not sure why - given the nature of the some dude's previous lists - people would expect this to be "broader".

jason mraz - the remedy
stacir orrico - more to life
michelle branch - everywhere
santana ft rob thomas - smooth / santana - maria maria / santana ft michelle branch - game of love
pink - you make me sick
any number of taylor swift singles

oh & every other sugar ray single

"Someday" is the only other big '00s one though

there'd be at least one or two T-Swift songs on my country list

well taylor swift & coldplay were kinda the biggest exclusions (other than kanye) in my mind but this is not really ~important~ to me or anything. the list is both more jarring & less comprehensive imo but i get that there are self-imposed constraints acting to potentially cause that, & that its also inherent in trying to outline a more amorphous 'genre' like pop

mostly i just think a lot of these songs suck, so yeah

"never let you go" - third eye blind

kanye? xp

rough top 15

1. vanessa carlton - a thousand miles
2. hillary duff - come clean
3. fergie - london bridge
4. maroon 5 - makes me wonder
5. no doubt - hella good
6. avril lavigne - sk8r boi
7. pink - so what
8. britney spears - toxic
9. veronicas - untouched
10. sugar ray - when it's over
11. n sync - pop
12. lady gaga - bad romance
13. pink - who knew
14. avril lavigne - complicated
15. feist - 1, 2, 3, 4

oh yeah coldplay durr

"Someday" is the only other big '00s one though

right -- substitute for "every other maroon 5 single"

damn those santana singles are so sick

yeah there's a lot of stuff here i can't fault anyone for hating tbh, half these are songs that my wife will look at me sideways if she catches me listening to them

had Coldplay on the rock list since they still get played on alt stations a fair amount, unlike Maroon 5, etc. (xpost to Lamp)

yeah "smooth" ! xp

matchbox 20 - "bent"

jordin sparks - tattoo

la roux - bulletproof

alright come on

"Smooth" was '99 and also ew

lol "bulletproof" is an anthem

damn those santana singles are so sick

haha i meant to mention santana as a big exclusion in terms of old ppl pop but i figured that some dude just wasnt into those songs (lol xps)

kanye & coldplay are essentially pop acts imo but thats an ilm tediousfest id prefer to skip out on so

id put the cover of 'its my life' over 'hella good' or any gwen solo singles

having no overlap in lists was more about being able to max out how many songs i could cover than anything else fwiw -- obviously there are gray areas but i just figured out the best single place to put a song and stuck with it

"the remedy" was one of those songs in high school where i consciously made the decision to rep for the song from the jump, zings be damned

i'm down w/ "the remedy" (see Jason Mraz - C/D?)

i like it well enough in a 2nd-tier-Matrix-productions way -- it's kind of hilarious how obvious it is where his shitty funk rock song ends and where their big pop chorus begins. preferred the follow-up "You And I Both".

stacir orrico - more to life

OMG yes!

Also totally forgot "See You Again".

now Miley was a deliberate omission

akon - right now (na na na)

love this song

i like to pretend akon died in a plane crash after he stopped doing sad gangsta rap songs with young jeezy and styles p.

hahaha

r.i.p. akon :///

where is 'can't get you out of my head'

i don't dislike it, i just like "Love At First Sight" way more

32. John Mayer - "Clarity"
31. Pink - "So What"
30. Fergie f/ will.i.am - "Fergalicious"

fuck you

haha this is the thanks i get for being the only other person in the world that loves "Clarity"!

heard it in the supermarket the other day btw, sounded so great

yeah but it's no "so what"

voting clarity because fuck you

is nelly furtado - "promiscuous" a pop song?

xp the "so what" that was snubbed was the field mob/ciara in the crossover list

"Promiscuous" is a pop song that i think sucks balls

I realize I don't have a leg to stand on when it comes to batshit pop farts in the Top Ten Best Of Anything, but "A Thousand Miles"...do you write poetry in Lisa Frank notebooks or something what the hell

That said, there's a lot of good stuff here among the songs where somebody shits on a baby

"Promiscuous" is a pop song that i think sucks balls

elle oh elle

"promiscuous" is still the shit

Personal Top Ten:
Clarity
Pop
Makes Me Wonder
Toxic
Don't Tell Me
Buttons
When It's Over
Hella Good
Bad Romance
Move Along

If you gotta have Vanessa Carlton, give me "White Houses"

Personal Top Ten:

from this list, just in case someone gets it twisted

YOU SUCK BALLS

that beat is the shit

it's no pink's "so what"

i don't dislike it, i just like "Love At First Sight" way more

― ORIGINAL DUDE (some dude), Saturday, May 7, 2011 2:54 AM (36 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this is otm all is forgiven

oh yeah also as far as jonas bros singles go "burnin up" >>>>>>>>>>>> "lovebug"

how was the one jonas w/ the long hair the lead singer

I prefer "White Houses" too but I guess it doesn't have quite the same universalist sweep as "A Thousand Miles".

Somewhat inevitably, with lyrics like "My first time: hard to explain. Rush of blood, and a little bit of pain..."

thats another 1 where im like, well, those both kinda suck

not to be defensive, but i am curious what exactly this means -- in comparison to the other lists i've done for other genres, in comparison to what your personal top 50 would be, etc.?

― ORIGINAL DUDE (some dude), Saturday, May 7, 2011 1:29 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

No complains in terms of broadness. And, yes it is al precisely what I would call pop. I would just have picked different songs, even from the same artists. So yes, very few of these would be in my own top 50.

Some tracks that would be on my list (aside from some that people have mentioned already)

Nelly Furtado - Maneater
Kylie - I Believe In You, Giving You Up
Beyonce - Crazy In Love

At least one Sugababes track, at least one Girls Aloud track can't decide now.

Oh and Jordin Sparks - No Air

stacir orrico - more to life

OMG yes!

"more to life" is okay but c'mon if you're gonna give orrico a place there's no way it can't be "stuck" (which is SO AMAZING)

"Stuck" seems clunky to me, I see how it's supposed to work but I don't think it does. "More To Life" has that whole bittersweet anthemism going.

i kind of feel "more to life" is a bit trite and i'm not interested in the xtianity of it all - "stuck" pretty much exactly captures that high school crush feel that's the linchpin of the genre

different singles by the same artists i'd have picked instead -

kelly clarkson - "behind these hazel eyes" and "never again"
xtina aguilera - "can't hold us down" and "ain't no other man" (i do really like "fighter" and "beautiful" though)
avril lavigne - "i'm with you"
ashlee simpson - "boyfriend"!!!!!! or "little miss obsessive". though those aside it's just struck me that all my favourite ashlee cuts are deep tracks ("love me for me", "coming back for more", "i am me" etc)
and it wasn't a single but "don't talk" by vanessa hudgens is so far above the rest of her discography - i think i've repped it here before but anyone with even vague #cassiefanclub predilections needs to hear it asap

i might vote for "come clean" here. hilary had several total classics in that decade, "beat of my heart" and "wake up" are amazing too

Fergalicious is outstanding - probably the best thing Will.i.am has ever done. Never really liked Glamorous until the Space Cowboy remix.

Top ten from the list:

1. Toxic
2. Fergalicious
3. Untouched
4. Pop
5. La Tortura
6. Bad Romance
7. Sk8er Boi
8. Hot 'n' Cold
9. London Bridge
10. La La

Voted for "He Loves You Not" because it's the perfect blend time of that early Max Martin early 00s sound (with the dramatic stabs etc) and lyrical content/performance of a song. The girls in Dream encapsulate the required aggressive and possessive teenage girl voice brilliantly with the right mix of confidence, anger and sexuality.

"Love At First Sight" is just pop's take on all those Stardust/Modjo style one hit wonders and that's a sound I'll never tire of it, so it was a close call.

SOMEWHERE WE WENT WRONG
WE WERE ONCE SO STRONG

the verses on "Promiscuous" are some of the dumbest lyrics and most awkward vocal performances ever, it's just a mess.

by "not a strong list" I simply meant that not many songs here move me. where's Justin for a start (the older one)? and (thought I'm not sure about her status on ilm) Lily Allen?

Justin and later N Sync were on the R&B lists

and Lily Allen's status on ilm is good, her status with me personally is very very bad

fair enough

the lack of t.A.T.u. is quite worrying

the whole tatu thing kind of passed me by somehow, i heard their only US hit maybe twice

Someday" is the only other big '00s one though

This was summer '99!

I don't see this as "going against the canon" quite as much as a few odd selections which have been mostly hated on, such as "La La" or Paris Hilton..

Voted Kylie obv.

PS What canon? Not enough time has passed..

I think what I dislike most about "Toxic" is that it's so hugely adored when it's actually not even in her 20 best songs.

well i just hate Britney and don't think she has 20 listenable songs so

exactly!

yeah needs "All the Things She Said"

Also:
JoJo - "Leave (Get Out)" and "Too Little Too Late"
City High - "What Would You Do"
3LW - "No More" and "Playas Gon Play"
The Fray - "Over My Head (Cable Car)"
VV Brown - "Shark in the Water"
Rooney - "Blueside"
Jimmy Eat World - "The Middle"
SoulDecision - "Faded" and "Ooh It's Kinda Crazy"
Daniel Bedingfield - "If You're Not the One"
Macy Gray - "I Try"
Shaggy - "It Wasn't Me"
Avril Lavigne - "I'm With You"
Sonique - "It Feels So Good"
S Club 7 - "Never Had a Dream Come True"
Michelle Branch - "Everywhere"

Oh, and I'm voting for Demi.

p.s. Al, are we on the same page re: Hot Chelle Rae's "Tonight Tonight"? SO AWESOME

jimmy eat world was on the rock list, tho "the middle" is better than whichever song al put on there (i forget)

can't believe i forgot "over my head", that would be in the top 10 of my list -- also good look on city high

& you know where i stand on rooney

yeah, basically early 00s TRL >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sara Bareilles

"love song" is one of my least favorite songs of the decade tbh

gee gee gee gee baby baby baby

^ Greatest of them all.

where is the limp bizkit?? no "rollin" or "my way"?

can't tell if k3v is kidding or what

i definitely like "Too Little Too Late," "Over My Head" and "I'm With You" enough that they could've made the list.

i'm serious - i thought you liked some of their singles? i like those songs

i'm looking at limp bizkit's wiki page and i'm shocked at how less popular they were than i thought. they never went platinum? "rollin" topped out at 65, "my way" at 75, and "nookie" at 80? why is my perception of their popularity so distorted?

because of trl/mtv?

oh the riaa certifications are for the singles, not the albums

xp yeah that's what i think too

yeah they were doing baseball numbers with album sales but i can't believe they never had a top 40 hit

it's awesome that some of you like "Over My Head"! i played the shit out of that in my car during 2006

over my head is great

yeah they were doing baseball numbers with album sales but i can't believe they never had a top 40 hit

― the buttonmasher, the party crasher, the forget-my-lotion skin rasher (k3vin k.), Saturday, May 7, 2011 5:10 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this is kind of shocking to me too

yeah i mean they were all over mtv/the box, namedropped in "the real slim shady", etc

guess they're more of an 'albums artist', lol

yes and i cant think of anyone more worthy of a "50 best pop singles of the 00's" list than the durst

yes let's focus on the artistry of hilary duff

limp bizkit had some dope singles fuiud

if my day just keeps going this way i just might break something tonight \(^o^)/

some dope guilty pleasure singles, yes.. all of which were released between 98 and 99

Limp Bizkit had MTV and rock radio sewn up, but never really got top 40 burn iirc.

voted christina beautiful

13. N Sync - "Bye Bye Bye"

i'm looking at limp bizkit's wiki page and i'm shocked at how less popular they were than i thought. they never went platinum? "rollin" topped out at 65, "my way" at 75, and "nookie" at 80? why is my perception of their popularity so distorted?

― the buttonmasher, the party crasher, the forget-my-lotion skin rasher (k3vin k.), Saturday, May 7, 2011 1:05 PM (2 hours ago)

Wikipedia:

Chocolate Starfish and the Hot Dog Flavored Water is the third album by Limp Bizkit, released on October 15, 2000 through Interscope and Flip records. It debuted at number one on the Billboard 200, selling 1.05 million copies in its first week,[2] and was the 18th best-selling album of the 2000s in the US.[3]

According to the RIAA website, the album has sold over 6 million copies in the United States alone as of 2008 and an overall 12 million worldwide.[4] It features the singles "My Generation", "Rollin' (Air Raid Vehicle)", "Take A Look Around", "Boiler", and "My Way".

after all the talk upthread about Coldplay etc. not being here because they were on the rock list i thought it went w/o saying that they were on another list (twice!): al ship's top 50 rock singles of the 00s -- which is your favorite?

it's extremely rare for any hard rock/nu-metal band to have top 40 hits no matter how big they are, unless it's w/ a power ballad (which the Bizkit didn't really do)

oh haha well there you go

i have no idea what makes something like that "rock" or "pop" or whatever, same with train who i also love

it usually depends on which chart a specific song charter or how high if it had cross format success

as far as al's exercise goes

true

don't tell me

great list!

hella good
hot n cold
who knew
bad romance
white flag
toxic

i would've voted for any of these instead of hella good:

maneater
what goes around/comes around
too little too late
no air
mariah carey's "obsessed"
sean kingston's "beautiful girls" (yeah i know, i'm a douchebag...)
all american rejects "swing swing" (actually in all fairness, I probably would not have voted for this, same goes for "no air")

oh yeah, and

say it right

Pretty surprising how similar this list is to the one I would create, I count somewhere between 15 and 20 that would be in my own top 50 pop singles of the 00s. I actually voted for "Come Clean" here, though it's close between that, "Love at First Sight", and "Bye Bye Bye"

it's extremely rare for any hard rock/nu-metal band to have top 40 hits no matter how big they are, unless it's w/ a power ballad (which the Bizkit didn't really do)

True, but I think they might've done a bit better if digital sales had existed when they were popular.

yeah, maybe

"Swing, Swing" was on my rock list, to kind of underline how ridiculous it is that it appeared on rock charts but "Move Along" did not.

she bangs

OBVIOUSLY

no other song is NEARLY AS FAST

148 bpm

"Un sabor animal...
Me aguo la boca entre miel y sal"

la tortura. by some distance.

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

i'll go to bat for a few of these, ranked favorites:

2. Kylie Minogue - "Love At First Sight" - awesome, one of her best
4. Lady Gaga - "Bad Romance" - likewise
13. N Sync - "Bye Bye Bye" - enjoy this a good deal
50. N Sync - "Pop" - just a shade below "bye bye bye" but still good
9. Madonna - "Don’t Tell Me" - like this alright, but not even close to a Madonna top 25

the rest of these are almost uniformly yawn/zzzzzz or total shit.. though to be fair, i've not heard maybe 10 of them

worst song here is probably dido "white flag"

voted Kylie

the rest of these are almost uniformly yawn/zzzzzz or total shit.. though to be fair, i've not heard maybe 10 of them

those 10 are amazing, you should listen to them

basically i only take criticism on this list from people who i'm pretty certain CAN name 50 songs they like within the parameters of this list. ilxor and whiney can kick rocks.

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

"don't forget" deserved better

42. Dido - "White Flag" 3

fuck outta here

really boring winners

"fuck outta here" because "white flag" is too low? surely that, it's a great song, and dido's calm demeanour belies what's actually a completely mental lyric

Correct winner ftr.

well "love at first sight" is okay, i guess

It's possibly the finest piece of disco-pop of the 00s, what is better than it in that vein?

"come into my world" off the same album? britney's "anticipating"?

Both great, but no.

I think there is a certain air of absolute joyful plenitude and completeness and can-this-be-happening ecstaticness that a lot of disco-pop/house-pop anthems aspire to and that "Love At First Sight" actually nails.

Something like "Come Into My World" is going for a different vibe of escapist dreaminess (closer to "Can't Get You Out Of My Head", though that's slightly different again).