al ship's top 50 rock singles of the 00s -- which is your favorite?

mr. brightside or maps

yeah i'm not sure what the corny/boring ilm hivemind choice would be here, interested to see how this goes. voted for #1 obv.

i kind of have no business voting in this poll i guess

fat lip or chop suey or icky thump i think

some stats

13 songs that were #1 on the Modern Rock chart, 8 that were #1 on Mainstream Rock

6 bands w/ two songs each (My Chemical Romance, Jimmy Eat World, Limp Bizkit, Weezer, The Killers and Fall Out Boy)

years with most and least songs: eight from 2004, one from 2008

i haven't heard or don't remember a number of these, but there are quite a few classics

1 fat lip
2 ocean avenue
3 mr brightside
4 maps
5 i believe in a thing called love
6 helena
7 misery business
8 thnks fr th mmrs
9 clocks
10 i'm not okay
11 drops of jupiter
12 smooth criminal
13 chop suey
14 hard to explain
15 always
16 dance, dance
17 paralyzer
18 faint
19 wish you were here
20 swing, swing

& that's a desert island mix 4 real

Sum 41 - "Fat Lip" (2001) & The Yeah Yeah Yeahs - "Maps" are i think the only ones i like in the whole list, but i don't know (or don't know that i know) an awful lot of these tunes

for the record, "the middle" would've been in my top 5 had that been on here

if "get it faster" was a jimmy eat world choice i would go with that, but i guess that must not have been a single huh?

xpost actually shit i should own up and say i love that Swing swing song too

yellowcard killed it in the one year i went to warped

lots of dudes pretending like they weren't the shit back then tho

every few years something like this comes up and i am reminded that i really liked that whole jimmy eat world album, actually

this is an absolute favorite joint of mine that i was disappointed was left off here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfcLcDBII78&ob=av3e

yeah that whole JEW album is gold, that song is good but wasn't one of the 4 singles

mr. brightside or maps

― horseshoe, Friday, September 3, 2010 4:16 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

For me too. Or Chop Suey.

I can't believe there are 2 MCR songs on here but not The Black Parade which is a song of epic proportions in my opinion.

Also, Train?! ;_;

that was definitely New Found Glory's best single and the first thing I've been like "oh fuck" about forgetting now

yeah i wasn't going to say it but wow drops of jupiter, huh?

repping for Train hits and thinking MCR fell off w/ Black Parade are 2 stock opinions I've argued many times in other threads, so I won't go into them too much again here

voted for #1 obv― some dude,

I forgot why that would be obvious and uh, have not read all your postings on rock, so maybe I am also missing a joke--like you hate that MCR song more than anything, and have repeatedly said that?

clocks or maps

the Train song probably would be more at home next to Vanessa Carlton and shit on the pop list I'm working on, but it was a charting rock hit so this is the list it slotted into

curmudgeon -- i put together the list, so the one ranked #1 is obviously the song i like most and am voting for in the poll about the list

also

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPCMx8yS7c0&ob=av2e

48. Limp Bizkit - "Break Stuff" (2000)
42. The Killers - "Mr. Brightside" (2004)
38. The Yeah Yeah Yeahs - "Maps" (2004)
35. Disturbed - "Land Of Confusion" (2006)
22. Nine Inch Nails - "The Hand That Feeds" (2005)
14. U2 - "Beautiful Day" (2000)
9. Yellowcard - "Ocean Avenue" (2004)
8. Limp Bizkit - "My Way" (2001)
7. Sum 41 - "Fat Lip" (2001)
6. Train - "Drops Of Jupiter (Tell Me)" (2001)
5. Jimmy Eat World - "Sweetness" (2002)
3. Coldplay - "Clocks" (2003)
2. System Of A Down - "Chop Suey!" (2001)

I am voting for one of these

I am kind of shocked there are TWO Limp Bizkit songs in this "shortlist"

Oh ok xpost

Tempted to vote Muse here.

also "hanging by a moment" would've been in my top 10

6. Train - "Drops Of Jupiter (Tell Me)" (2001)

al why

okay this is probably "Maps" vs "Chop Suey!" vs... "Beautiful Day"

god I'm weird sometimes

the hardest thing about limiting to only 2 songs per band was cutting "Rollin'"

personally i would've picked "dirty little secret"

also have no idea what, like, 3 blink songs i could even pick

there would've been like 10 of my 50

Train prolly didn't need to be top 10 but it was always going to be in my top 20

haha i seriously like or love every song in that top ten except for that train song.

vote will probably be "mr. brightside" or "i'm not okay" though.

"Dirty Little Secret," incredibly, only appeared on pop charts and no rock charts, and so was ineligible (although I would've instead picked "Move On," which was ineligible for the same reason)

kudos 2 u ship, but train are a bit too much the calling for me to get behind

the hardest thing about limiting to only 2 songs per band was cutting "Rollin'"

have i told you lately that I love you?

>>>>The Strokes - "Hard To Explain" (2001)

my vote though a bit of a (nyc) cop out ;)

I went w/ a weird Blink pick because for me their best singles are "Dammit" and "What's My Age Again," which are both from the '90s, not as big on "All The Small Things" or "I Miss You" but I love that whole self-titled album and the less popular singles from it

man, i'm probably the biggest strokes stan on this board & "hard to explain" is one of my least favorite songs of theirs

when i saw julian solo a few months ago that was the only strokes song he played

i've always been partial to "down"

That Train song is their only hit that i've ever liked ever, but I really have no desire to hear it again

"Always" is crazy underrated and deserves the love it gets here

Oh wait - I didn't see The Strokes one. I'll add that to my shortlist too.

Dammit is my fav Blink song but yes, 90s.

Aw man - I feel bad for starting the Train hate now. I didn't realize that was something Al's had to defend many times before. Sorry dude! That said, I now have "Drops of Jupiter" in my head and it's driving me crazy and it's YOUR FAULT. grrrr.

"12:51" would've been my strokes song

that one ages more and more now that they've put out material after 'room on fire' and it's become incredibly relevant that they should've gone the fun, frothy, cars route instead of the leather jackets & metal studs black-and-red motif that they chose

ages more and more well*

incredibly obvious* as well

the post-secret biting video for "dirty little secret" is an abomination tho, good christ

haha ENBB nah it's ok, I can take the Train fight, just saying I probably won't go to bat for it too hard

I liked Room On Fire as an album but for me all their good singles are from the first one

have u heard a little song called last night
xp

44. Fall Out Boy - "Thnks Fr Th Mmrs" (2007)
21. Paramore - "Misery Business" (2007)

between these two for me. weird that the only two songs of this whole genre to make a good impression on me were both from 07.

"Maps" is going to take this by a safe margin.

idk this guy sounds pretty butthurt 2 me

but let butthurts be butthurts, it's all butts under the bridge 2 me

did you see captain lorax in the poli thread today?

ysi?

from here on down

US POLITICS: "I figured clueless was better than argumentative."

I have long reconciled myself to the fact that Mr Brightside is a good song even without the JLC involvement but I'm voting for Maps.

Thread needs QOTSA involvement really but I dislike 2/3rds of these.

actively dislike almost all of the list. doesn't seem very some dude-y.

i know 'this is all shit' etc but rly, this is almost all shit

charlie h otm

i think the lesson here is that it never turns out well to come in a positive thread and be like "all the music being discussed in here is fucking awful"

lesson learned

― banaka socka flame (J0rdan S.), Monday, 13 September 2010 06:56 (5 hours ago)

that wd be true if it was about yr usual niche interest ilx stuff but this is virtually public domain, the stuff that you've probably heard even if you didn't want to

even the few ppl who have done anything good (soad, the strokes, nerd, white stripes) don't actually have their best songs, w/e

This isn't really my thread (at all) but I still voted :D

i wish i wasn't offline all weekend, this thread has been entertaining!

i may finish and post 51-100 of the list here

dooo ittt

i will never understand why people like 'helena' more than 'i'm not ok' :(

i do hate that train song

Maps is p much a perfect song to me but is also the obvious corny indie choice so I guess I will vote with my guilty fondness for that All-American Rejects song

Ship I thought you were a Sonic Youth stan; no "Incinerate"?

If you check the piece I specified only songs that have appeared on a Billboard rock chart (SY haven't had a charting single since 1994)

voted train

could have just as easily gone for coldplay, jew, b182, yyys, even u2

2000s were a great decade for rock music. so many monster hooks! what more can you ask for?

You better watch your back
Cuz I'm fuckin' up your program
And if your stuck up
You just lucked up
Next in line to get fucked up
Your best bet is to stay away motherfucker
Its just one of those days!!

sort of hard to believe that that was from the 2000s, feels like a whole different world

yeah i could've sworn that was 99 ish

good song tho

oh man, i almost saw jew one time when i was in ny

"Break Stuff" was released as a single in spring 2000 but was from a '99 album fwiw

I will most likely be the sole Incubus vote. There are plenty of songs by bands represented here that I like better (Weezer, Foo Fighters, White Stripes), but dude mostly picked songs that I didnt' care much about.

can't stand MCR but some dude OTM about #'s 2 & 3. Will prolley vote Clocks but let the record show that although now it suffers from permanent exposure, when it first came out, the presence of Chop Suey on the radio was absolutely exhilirating...

my list

clocks
chop suey
maps
hard to explain
mr. brightside
swing swing
send the pain below
word up
the fixer
icky thump*

*the one instance where I really thought that the artist in question put out loads of better singles in the decade, though god bless you for snubbing "Seven Nation Army", which I find insufferable. I still would've chose either "Dead Leaves and the Dirty Ground" or "Hardest Button to Button" instead (and either one would've been my no-contest pick easy...)

though god bless you for snubbing "Seven Nation Army", which I find insufferable.

yes!!!!

I still would've chose either "Dead Leaves and the Dirty Ground"

yes!!!!

actually seven nation army isn't insufferable to me. it just very very boring & derivative to me.

this list falls to shit at like number 3

#50-4 on al shipley's list: approved by whiney g. weingarten

damn I keep droppin dude's full name sorry. am super drunk atm. ban me

imo

weird that only one strokes song

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

delete ILX

who voted nickelback?

the lead singer posts here

you mean the dude who looks like the cowardly lion?

http://i31.tinypic.com/2njx6x3.jpg

i've been thinking the last few days that part of the reason maps is so incredible is that it creates this entire coherent world unto itself where everything falls exactly into place, the way the guitar octaves in the chorus echo the intro and the single note lines spin around the vocal melody it's like yo the indie rock lord of the rings has arrived

whos gollum

If you check the piece I specified only songs that have appeared on a Billboard rock chart (SY haven't had a charting single since 1994)

Ah that makes sense. Would be curious to see your list of rock songs that did not appear on a Billboard rock chart.

"Maps" is well-constructed, it's just a bit too ballady for me.

"maps" is great, but "hard to explain" is crazy overrated -- "mr brightside" is waaay better

you mean the dude who looks like the cowardly lion?

― charlie h, Monday, September 13, 2010 6:04 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

stolen from beavis & butthead five yard penalty

lol

i wasn't talking about hetfield.

aw wish i'd voted for blink

or paramore, wtf!

would've voted darkness

Ah that makes sense. Would be curious to see your list of rock songs that did not appear on a Billboard rock chart.

― jaymc, Monday, September 13, 2010 7:43 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

eh, if i did that, it'd surely be just a scrambled assortment of deep cuts from my favorite rock albums of the decade (i.e. the thing that i rag on P&J voters for doing with their singles ballots every year, which is why i prefer putting together singles lists like this).