2010 Magazine's Albums Of The Year Thread For Posting Lists and Discussion

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Q Magazine EOY 2010:

1. Arcade Fire - The Suburbs
2. Robert Plant - Band of Joy
3. Plan B - The Defamation of Strickland Banks
4. Laura Marling - I Speak Because I Can
5. Vampire Weekend - Contra
6. John Grant - Queen of Denmark
7. Gorillaz - Plastic Beach
8. The National - High Violet
9. Paul Weller - Wake Up the Nation
10. MGMT - Congratulations
11. The Black Keys - Brothers
12. Gil Scott-Heron - I'm New Here
13. Beach House - Teen Dream
14. Hot Chip - One Life Stand
15. Yeasayer - Odd Blood
16. Foals - Total Life Forever
17. John Legend & The Roots - Wake Up!
18. Manic Street Preachers - Postcards from a Young Man
19. Grinderman - Grinderman 2
20. Take That - Progress
21. Band of Horses - Infinite Arms
22. Corinne Bailey Rae - The Sea
23. LCD Soundsystem - This Is Happening
24. Bryan Ferry - Olympia
25. Kings of Leon - Come Around Sundown
26. Klaxons - Surfing the Void
27. Midlake - The Courage of Others
28. Avi Buffalo - Avi Buffalo
29. Interpol - Interpol
30. Brandon Flowers - Flamingo
31. The Chemical Brothers - Further
32. The Drums - The Drums
33. Tricky - Mixed Race
34. The Dead Weather - Sea of Cowards
35. Man Alive - Everything Everything
36. The Roots - How I Got Over
37. The Coral - Butterfly House
38. Janelle Monae - The Archandroid
39. I Am Kloot - Sky at Night
40. Peter Gabriel - Scratch My Back
41. Belle and Sebastian - Write About Love
42. Tom Jones - Praise & Blame
43. Skream - Outside the Box
44. Villagers - Becoming a Jackal
45. Cherry Ghost - Beneath This Burning Shoreline
46. Joanna Newsom - Have One On Me
47. Two Door Cinema Club - Tourist History
48. Edwyn Collins - Losing Sleep
49. Deerhunter - Halcyon Digest
50. Steve Mason - Boys Outside

World Series champion San Francisco Giants (Bee OK), Sunday, 28 November 2010 05:00 (six years ago) Permalink

paging Mitchell Stirling

World Series champion San Francisco Giants (Bee OK), Sunday, 28 November 2010 05:01 (six years ago) Permalink

Decibel 2010 Albums Of The Year


1. Agalloch - Marrow of the Spirit
2. Watain - Lawless Darkness
3. Triptykon - Eparistera Daimones
4. Dawnbringer - Nucleus
5. Enslaved - Axioma Ethica Odini
6. Torche - Songs for Singles
7. Ludicra - The Tenant
8. Thou - Summit
9. Nails - Unsilent Death
10. The Austerity Program - Backsliders and Apostates Will Burn
11. Castevet - Mounds of Ash
12.Immolation- Majesty and Decay
13. Sailors With Wax Wings - Sailors With Wax Wings
14. Coliseum - House With a Curse
15. Horseback - The Invisible Mountain
16. Kylesa - Spiral Shadow
17. High on Fire - Snakes for the Divine
18. Burzum - Belus
19. Atheist - Jupiter
20. Electric Wizard - Black Masses
21. Deathspell Omega - Paracletus
22. Kvelertak - Kvelertak
23. Integrity- The Blackest Curse
24. Ghost - Opus Eponymous
25. Withered - Dualitas
26. PIVIXKI - Gravissima
27.Fear Factory - Mechanize
28. Unearthly Trance - V
29. Christian Mistress - Agony & Opium
30. Nachtmystium - Addicts: Black Meddle Part II
31. Deftones - Diamond Eyes
32. Father Befouled - Morbid Destitution of Covenant
33. The Body - All the Waters of the Earth Turn to Blood
34. Early Graves - Goner
35. Intronaut - Valley of Smoke
36. Decrepit Birth - Polarity
37. The Dillinger Escape Plan - Option Paralysis
38. Hail of Bullets - On Divine Winds
39. Lantlos - .Neon
40. Darkthrone - Circle the Wagons

Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 28 November 2010 05:40 (six years ago) Permalink

lol at all these lists

The Reverend, Sunday, 28 November 2010 05:50 (six years ago) Permalink

^ list of lists

http://i54.tinypic.com/2vt2utg.gif (markers), Sunday, 28 November 2010 05:52 (six years ago) Permalink

10. MGMT - Congratulations

ffs, really?!

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 28 November 2010 05:52 (six years ago) Permalink

control yourself

http://i54.tinypic.com/2vt2utg.gif (markers), Sunday, 28 November 2010 05:53 (six years ago) Permalink

take only what you neeeeeeeeeeeeeed from it

http://i54.tinypic.com/2vt2utg.gif (markers), Sunday, 28 November 2010 05:53 (six years ago) Permalink

that's a great site but the ILM thread's have been great over the years:

The 2009 Magazine Albums Of The Year Thread For Posting Lists and Discussion.

World Series champion San Francisco Giants (Bee OK), Sunday, 28 November 2010 05:55 (six years ago) Permalink

oh yeah def! im all for this thread -- just wanted to drop that link here too

http://i54.tinypic.com/2vt2utg.gif (markers), Sunday, 28 November 2010 06:00 (six years ago) Permalink

This is from the xtianrock list. I have no idea who this band is, but I'm way into this cover (even as bad as it is):

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 28 November 2010 06:07 (six years ago) Permalink

is Q Magazine always first? it seems that way.

World Series champion San Francisco Giants (Bee OK), Sunday, 28 November 2010 06:07 (six years ago) Permalink

first out gets all the press in the dailies & websites and also gets big sales before people get fed up with list overload. But most of the magazines come out on the 1st of the month now

Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 28 November 2010 06:27 (six years ago) Permalink

so Q is big enough to get mentioned in daily newspapers and it will actually boost sales. Hence the lists get out.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 28 November 2010 06:28 (six years ago) Permalink

I think

Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 28 November 2010 06:32 (six years ago) Permalink

Mojo

50 Matthew Dear – Black City
49 Ali Farka Toure & Toumani Diabate – Ali & Toumani
48 John Legend & The Roots- Wake Up!
47 Jane Weaver & Septieme Souer – The Fallen By Watch Bird
46 Peter Gabriel – Scratch My Back
45 Roky Erickson with Okkervil River – True Love Cast Out All Evil
44 Swans – My Father Will Guide Me Up A Rope To The Sky
43 The Besnard Lakes – Are The Roaring Night
42 Kelley Soltz – To Dreamers
41 Tom Jones – Praise and Blame
40 Eli Paperboy Reed – Come and Get It
39 Wyatt, Atzmon, Stephens – For The Ghosts Within
38 Gonjasufi – A Sufi And A Killer
37 Teenage Fanclub – Shadows
36 LCD Soundsystem – This Is Happening
35 M.I.A. - // / Y /
34 Villagers – Becoming A Jackal
33 The Roots – How I Got Over You
32 Robert Plant – Band of Joy
31 Neil Young – Le Noise
30 Janelle Monae – The ArchAndroid
29 Gill Scott-Heron – I’m New Here
28 DangerMouse and Sparklehorse – Dark Night of The Soul
27 Field Music – Field Music (Measure)
26 Gorillaz – Plastic Beach
25 Foals – Total Life Forever
24 The Jim Jones Revue – Burning Your House Down
23 Sharon Jones and The Dap Kings – I Learned The Hard Way
22 Sam Amidon – I See The Sign
21 Isobel Campbell & Mark Lanegan - Hawk
20 Grinderman - Grinderman 2
19 Rumer – Seasons of My Soul
18 Caribou – Swim
17 Roots Manuva meets Wrongtom – Duppy Writer
16 Aerial Pink’s Haunted Graffiti – Before Today
15 Avi Buffalo – Avi Buffalo
14 Manic Street Preachers – Postcards From A Young Man
13 Joanna Newsom - Have One On Me
12 Mavis Staples – You Are Not Alone
11 Deerhunter – Halcyon Digest
10 Doug Paisley – Constant Companion
9 The Coral – Butterfly House
8 Phosphorescent – Here’s To Taking It Easy
7 Midlake – The Courage of Others
6 Paul Weller – Wakes Up The Nation
5 The Black Keys – Brothers
4 Edwyn Collins – Losing Sleep
3 MGMT – Congratulations
2 Arcade Fire – The Suburbs
1 John Grant – Queen of Denmark

Never heard of John Grant until I saw these lists, is it any good? Can't believe MGMT is #3 on the Mojo list, I thought it was an appalling mess.

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Sunday, 28 November 2010 09:51 (six years ago) Permalink

John Grant fka singer in The Czars. This album is as patchy as most Czars records were, but the transcendent moments still exist.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 28 November 2010 11:25 (six years ago) Permalink

this year's EOY lists are going to be especially infuriating, i don't think i've liked ANY crit-hyped record this year (apart from laura marling, and even then that's just the UK), and most of my personal favourites have gone unnoticed rather

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Sunday, 28 November 2010 11:36 (six years ago) Permalink

I've only heard five albums on the Q list (Gorillaz, Black Keys, Interpol, LCD Soundsystem, Bryan Ferry).

that's not funny. (unperson), Sunday, 28 November 2010 12:43 (six years ago) Permalink

I've heard six on the Mojo list (LCD Soundsystem, MIA, Neil Young, Gorillaz, Sharon Jones, Black Keys). Yes, now it can be told: I got the Swans album in the mail and never played it.

that's not funny. (unperson), Sunday, 28 November 2010 12:45 (six years ago) Permalink

I got the Swans album in the mail and never played it.

i downloaded it but i'm afraid to play it for fear it will damage my (old) eardrums.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 28 November 2010 13:00 (six years ago) Permalink

Not sure if we're including record shop lists, but the Piccadilly Records Top 100 is here. Top 20:

1 - Gil Scott-Heron I'm New Here
2 - The National High Violet
3 - Caribou Swim
4 - Field Music Field Music (Measure)
5 - The Phantom Band The Wants
6 - Broken Bells Broken Bells
7 - Four Tet There Is Love In You
8 - Shit Robot From The Cradle To The Rave
9 - LCD Soundsystem This Is Happening
10 - Sun Araw Off Duty / Boat Trip
11 - Beach House Teen Dream
12 - Thee Oh Sees Warm Slime
13 - The Black Angels Phosphene Dream
14 - Seahawks Ocean Trippin'
15 - The Hundred In The Hands The Hundred In The Hands
16 - Aloe Blacc Good Things
17 - Smoke Fairies Through Low Light & Trees
18 - Toro Y Moi Causers Of This
19 - Gonjasufi A Sufi And A Killer
20 - Erykah Badu New Amerykah Part 2 - Return Of The Ankh

My reaction is about 50% "Who?", 25% "No" and 25% "Yes!".

seandalai, Sunday, 28 November 2010 13:24 (six years ago) Permalink

I have no idea what the final Wire list will look like, but here's the Top Ten I sent them:

1. Ayumi Hamasaki, Rock ’n’ Roll Circus (Avex Trax)
2. High On Fire, Snakes for the Divine (E1)
3. Rick Ross, Teflon Don (Def Jam)
4. Ihsahn, After (The End)
5. Shining, Blackjazz (The End)
6. Inherit Disease, Visceral Transcendence (Unique Leader)
7. Decrepit Birth, Polarity (Nuclear Blast)
8. Negura Bunget, Vîrstele Pamîntului (Aural Music/Code 66)
9. John Zorn, Ipsissimus (Tzadik)
10. Rotting Christ, AEALO (Century Media)

that's not funny. (unperson), Sunday, 28 November 2010 15:13 (six years ago) Permalink

Well, so far I adore three of the Piccadilly list. I like 6 of the Q list.

Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Sunday, 28 November 2010 15:17 (six years ago) Permalink

2. High On Fire, Snakes for the Divine (E1)

It'll bring the lols if HOF get into the "avant rock" top 20 again

Blackening Electrical Connections (Matt #2), Sunday, 28 November 2010 15:21 (six years ago) Permalink

i don't think i've liked ANY crit-hyped record this year

Me as well, with few exceptions... The fewest I can ever remember from any year.

billstevejim, Sunday, 28 November 2010 15:46 (six years ago) Permalink

Unperson, have you done a separate list for the Latin music you listen to?

curmudgeon, Sunday, 28 November 2010 16:03 (six years ago) Permalink

No, but I might do that on my blog. Also, The Wire asked for a Top Five list of reissues, and these were the first two:

1. Fania All-Stars, Ponte Duro: The Fania All-Stars Story (Fania)
2. Los Saicos, ¡Demolición! The Complete Recordings (Munster)

that's not funny. (unperson), Sunday, 28 November 2010 16:06 (six years ago) Permalink

just want to be the annual grouch to point out that it's FUCKING NOVEMBER

overtheseas aeroplanes I have flown (k3vin k.), Sunday, 28 November 2010 16:12 (six years ago) Permalink

well played

The Reverend, Sunday, 28 November 2010 16:20 (six years ago) Permalink

just want to be the annual grouch to point out that it's FUCKING NOVEMBER

And you're expecting to be blown away, to have your whole perspective on 2010 altered, by exactly...what?...in the next four weeks?

that's not funny. (unperson), Sunday, 28 November 2010 16:41 (six years ago) Permalink

well, it looks like these lists came out before kanye's album, for one thing.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 28 November 2010 16:43 (six years ago) Permalink

(maybe that disc didn't make these lists, but . . .)

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 28 November 2010 16:43 (six years ago) Permalink

I think it's very imaginable that in a month's time an album could come out that would have made it on someone's list otherwise.

Yeah, not to mention that if these lists are coming out now, when were they actually finalized?

_Rudipherous_, Sunday, 28 November 2010 16:45 (six years ago) Permalink

i think it's good to have a month (december) where little comes out but you have a chance to catch up and/or reevaluate before making your list.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 28 November 2010 16:46 (six years ago) Permalink

I'm hopeful that I might find some good stuff on some of the December/EOY lists that I haven't heard yet.

billstevejim, Sunday, 28 November 2010 16:47 (six years ago) Permalink

And you're expecting to be blown away, to have your whole perspective on 2010 altered, by exactly...what?...in the next four weeks?

the ciara and diddy/dirty money albums aren't out yet. neither is the nicolas jaar compilation. the jazmine sullivan, kanye west, rihanna and yelawolf albums have only just been released (not that i like the kanye/rihanna ones but they were certainly anticipated for good reason). nov/dec release dates for big artists are par for the course in the music industry.

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Sunday, 28 November 2010 16:52 (six years ago) Permalink

big partists, particularly hip-hop, r&b and pop ones - it's just a commercially obvious time to release it

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Sunday, 28 November 2010 16:53 (six years ago) Permalink

*artists

ugh typos

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Sunday, 28 November 2010 16:53 (six years ago) Permalink

http://www.nme.com/blog/index.php?blog=10&title=albums_of_2010_75_73&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1

― Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 28 November 2010 06:04 (10 hours ago)

Dude [Visitor] //November 25 2010 at 11:42
I see Sufjan Stevens got a complimentary nod because you all realised you'd be totally fucking lame if you ignored it completely. This angers me.

calpolaris (nakhchivan), Sunday, 28 November 2010 17:00 (six years ago) Permalink

loooooool at the mgmt on this thread.

2010 has been terrific although you wouldn't have guessed it by looking on here.

wheezy f baby (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 28 November 2010 17:01 (six years ago) Permalink

yup

The Reverend, Sunday, 28 November 2010 17:03 (six years ago) Permalink

Wow, some kind of turning point for me -- I know and like 6 of the things on the Decibel list, which is more than on any of the other ones.

a tenth level which features a single castle (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 28 November 2010 17:06 (six years ago) Permalink

And there's at least 3 or 4 more things on the Decibel list I really want to check out, which is also more true than for Q or Mojo.

a tenth level which features a single castle (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 28 November 2010 17:08 (six years ago) Permalink

commenters under NME articles are so overwhelmingly miserable and solipsistic

cthulhu thuggin (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 28 November 2010 17:11 (six years ago) Permalink

I see [x] got a complimentary nod because you all realised you'd be totally fucking lame if you ignored it completely

going to catch on in 2k11 imo

calpolaris (nakhchivan), Sunday, 28 November 2010 17:15 (six years ago) Permalink

five years since 'no sufjan, no credibility' and, well, how life changes

rip whiney g weingarten 03/11 never forget (history mayne), Sunday, 28 November 2010 17:19 (six years ago) Permalink

John Grant's my album of the year - unusually Mojo of me. I don't see it getting much ILX love though.

The baby boomers have defined everything once and for all (Dorianlynskey), Sunday, 28 November 2010 17:45 (six years ago) Permalink

maybe it's a 'we ignored the czars mostly' thing so they overpraise his mediocre solo record.

keythhtyek, Sunday, 28 November 2010 17:48 (six years ago) Permalink

Or maybe not.

The baby boomers have defined everything once and for all (Dorianlynskey), Sunday, 28 November 2010 17:49 (six years ago) Permalink

I don't think it's a mediocre album.

henry s, Sunday, 28 November 2010 18:08 (six years ago) Permalink

Not a magazine, but here's the Rough Trade Shops 100 of the year:

1. Caribou - Swim
2. Gil Scott-Heron - I'm New Here
3. These New Puritans - Hidden
4. Caitlin Rose - Own Side Now
5. Phosphorescent - Here's To Taking It Easy
6. Darkstar - North
7. Charlotte Gainsbourg - IRM
8. Gold Panda - Lucky Shiner
9. Wild Nothing - Gemini
10. Tame Impala - Innerspeaker
11. Broken Bells - Broken Bells
12. Avi Buffalo - Avi Buffalo
13. The National - High Violet
14. Emeralds - Does It Look Like I’m Here?
15. Beach House - Teen Dream
16. Voice Of The Seven Thunders - Voice Of The Seven Thunders
17. Perfume Genius - Learning
18. Crocodiles - Sleep Forever
19. The Black Keys - Brothers
20. The Morning Benders - Big Echo
- Foals - Total Life Forever
21. Arcade Fire - The Suburbs
22. Salem - King Night
23. Brian Eno - Small Craft On A Milk Sea
24. Dylan Leblanc - Paupers Field
25. Joanna Newson - Have One On Me
26. Matthew Dear - Black City
27. Warpaint - The Fool
28. Liars - Sisterworld
29. LCD Soundsystem - This Is Happening
30. John Grant - Queen Of Denmark
31. Konono No 1 - Assume Crash Position
32. Smoke Fairies - Through Low Light And Trees
33. Surfer Blood - Astro Coast
- Deerhunter - Halcyon Digest
34. Villagers - Becoming A Jackal
35. Crystal Castles - Crystal Castles
36. Mount Kimbie - Crooks And Lovers
37. Flying Lotus - Cosmogramma
38. Best Coast - Crazy For You
39. PVT - Church With No Magic
40. Laura Marling - I Speak Because I Can
41. Vampire Weekend - Contra
42. Edwyn Collins - Losing Sleep
43. Yeasayer - Odd Blood
44. Midlake - The Courage Of Others
45. The Soft Pack - The Soft Pack
46. Sleigh Bells - Treats
47. O Children - O Children
48. Glasser - Ring
49. Zola Jesus - Stridulum 2
50. Holly Miranda - The Magician's Private Library
51. Sea Of Bees - Songs For The Ravens
52. JJ - No3
53. Pantha Du Prince - Black Noise
54. Twin Shadow - Forget
55. Gonjasufi - A Sufi And A Killer
56. Bear In Heaven - Beast Rest Forth Mouth
57. Ariel Pink’s Haunted Graffiti - Before Today
58. Cours Lapin - Cours Lapin
59. Darwin Deez - Darwin Deez
60. School Of Seven Bells - Disconnect From Desire
61. Beach Fossils - Beach Fossils
62. Shit Robot - From The Cradle To The Rave
63. Jonsi - Go
64. Dum Dum Girls - I Will Be
65. Belle And Sebastian - Belle And Sebastian Write About Love
66. Chilly Gonzales - Ivory Tower
67. Connan Mokasin - Please Turn Me Into The Snat
68. Holy Fuck - Latin
69. The School - Loveless Unbeliever
70. Tobacco - Maniac Meat
71. Dios - We Are Dios
72. Allo Darlin’ - Allo Darlin’
73. Swans - My Father Will Guide Me Up A Rope To The Sky
74. Male Bonding - Nothing Hurts
75. El Guincho - Pop Negro
76. Oneohtrix Point Never - Returnal
77. Kort (Kurt Wagner And Cortney Tidwell) - Invariable Heartache
78. Solar Bears - She Was Coloured In
79. Free Energy - Stuck On Nothing
80. Sufjan Stevens - The Age Of Adz
81. Kings Go Forth - The Outsiders Are Back
82. Grinderman - Grinderman 2
83. Dan Michaelson And The Coastguards - Shakes
84. Stornoway - Beachcomber’s Windowsill
85. Tamaryn - The Waves
86. The Tallest Man On Earth - The Wild Hunt
87. Four Tet - There Is Love In You
88. Magic Kids - Memphis
89. Marina And The Diamonds - Family Jewels
90. Mystery Jets - Serotonin
91. Black Angels - Phosphene Dream
92. Danger Mouse And Sparklehorse - Dark Night Of The Soul
93. Fool’s Gold - Fool’s Gold
94. Frankie Rose And The Outs - Frankie Rose And The Outs
95. Aloe Blacc - Good Things
96. Drums Of Death - Generation Hexed
97. Am - Future Sons And Daughters
98. Field Music - Field Music (Measure)
99. Hot Chip - One Life Stand
100. Time And Spacemachine - Set Phazer To Stun

henry s, Sunday, 28 November 2010 18:12 (six years ago) Permalink

I have 11.

henry s, Sunday, 28 November 2010 18:14 (six years ago) Permalink

(Not tellin' which ones.)

henry s, Sunday, 28 November 2010 18:15 (six years ago) Permalink

33 The Roots – How I Got Over You

love Mojo's inadvertent "we love this album so much we can't remember the exact title" over here

some dude, Sunday, 28 November 2010 18:25 (six years ago) Permalink

maybe it's a 'we ignored the czars mostly' thing so they overpraise his mediocre solo record.

― keythhtyek, Sunday, 28 November 2010 17:48 (33 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I've not heard the album in question (dude is only on my radar at all cos two of my friends made a lol video for him, so I'm mildly o_0 about him being near the tops of these lists) but this makes no sense - why would mags have any obligation to care about him?

cthulhu thuggin (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 28 November 2010 18:30 (six years ago) Permalink

They have an obligation to write about him because youtube commenters say he writes beautiful melodies

curmudgeon, Sunday, 28 November 2010 19:18 (six years ago) Permalink

I really like the new MGMT, better than the first in fact.

Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 28 November 2010 19:41 (six years ago) Permalink

dunno if it's in the 'spirit' of this thread but here is a bunch of dorks from bands etc listing their 'best sounds of 2010': http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2010/nov/28/best-sounds-2010?CMP=twt_gu

dude from Magnetic Man just edging out Antony in the thinly-disguised nepotism contest

cthulhu thuggin (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 28 November 2010 19:49 (six years ago) Permalink

Serge Pizzorno, Kasabian
Katy B

I heard a tune on the radio that I liked so much that I went and bought it, which proves it must be the best thing I've heard this year, because no one buys anything these days! It was "On a Mission" by Katy B. I love the bass on it; it reminds me of the old rave days. And I don't know the first thing about who she is or who made the record, and I like that about it as well.

rouxymuzak (nakhchivan), Sunday, 28 November 2010 19:52 (six years ago) Permalink

not following your emphasis tbh - wouldn't exactly expect Kasabian bro to study the pop landscape day-by-day

cthulhu thuggin (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 28 November 2010 20:01 (six years ago) Permalink

as in she couldn't possibly have made it herself

rouxymuzak (nakhchivan), Sunday, 28 November 2010 20:05 (six years ago) Permalink

tbf to kasabro, i guess his syntax allows that....but suggests otherwise

rouxymuzak (nakhchivan), Sunday, 28 November 2010 20:11 (six years ago) Permalink

I had no idea who Serge Pizzorno was before I read that.

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Sunday, 28 November 2010 20:13 (six years ago) Permalink

Is that Plan B album (#3 on the Q list) generally considered a big deal in the U.K.? It comes out in the States in January, and the advance I heard was okay, but not what I'd call exciting. Didn't get through half of it, though. Maybe I'll listen to it more, maybe not.

Didn't realize people cared about the Robert Plant album (which I haven't heard, and don't expect I'd like much given his output over the past couple decades, but who knows), either. And Ludicra at #7 on the Decibel list is a surprise for me, too -- I liked an Alternative Tentcales EP they did several years ago called Fex Urbis Lex Orbis, but had no idea metal critics had since fallen for them in such a big way. (Assuming it's the same Ludicra, I guess.)

I agree Thanksgiving weekend is way too early to publish best-of-the-year lists, but I've said that for years. (Do publications that do that count December '09 releases as 2010, by the way? Or are all December, and presumably most November releases given deadlines, always just shit out of luck?) Doubt my own list will change much if any between now and year's end, but odder things have happened.

xhuxk, Sunday, 28 November 2010 20:19 (six years ago) Permalink

the national?? really?? what a dire thing that record is.

nonightsweats, Sunday, 28 November 2010 20:40 (six years ago) Permalink

National is a fucking bore, and the fact that p4k celebratest this .... well I don't even know.

i wuzzzz afraaaid i'd eat ur brainnnnnnns
i wuzzzzz afraiiid i'd eat ur brainnnnnnns
caus im evillllllllll
cause im evillllllll

UUUUUUUUUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Good news, everyone! (kelpolaris), Sunday, 28 November 2010 20:43 (six years ago) Permalink

I really like the Plan B album, xhukx. It helps that I didn't get a copy when it came out so the singles just sneaked up on me one by one over the course of a few months. On first exposure it may seem like Mark Ronson-style retro-soul but it's packed with earworms and I like the tension between the violence and gloom of the lyrics and the sweetness of the voice and production. No more retro than the Cee Lo album at any rate so it would be nice to see Plan B make some impact in the US.

The baby boomers have defined everything once and for all (Dorianlynskey), Sunday, 28 November 2010 21:33 (six years ago) Permalink

Enjoyed that bloke from MGMT declared DI Go Pop as his album of the year (in Mojo).

djh, Sunday, 28 November 2010 21:42 (six years ago) Permalink

Listening to John Grant and not liking it. Sounds like sub-Silver Jews jokery and confessions backed by... Midlake

i should loko (rip van wanko), Sunday, 28 November 2010 23:49 (six years ago) Permalink

that ludicra album is really good, fwiw. (and not an accident that two of the top 10 decibel albums have the same drummer, imo.)

a tenth level which features a single castle (tipsy mothra), Monday, 29 November 2010 00:08 (six years ago) Permalink

the rough trade shops list is pretty good -- i can get behind a 1-2 punch of caribou + gil scott heron, that's unfuckwithable

looool @ mojo and q lists

i look at the interior of my sack and feel sad (ilxor), Monday, 29 November 2010 04:30 (six years ago) Permalink

at closer examination, Q is really the worst offender here -- yaaaaaawn!

the Mojo list at least has a few more adventurous choices i can get behind (matthew dear, swans, gonjasufi, m.i.a. in 2010, neil young, gil scott heron, grinderman, caribou -- all great albums)

rough trade is a goldmine, i own close to 30 of those ^____^

decibel i'm satisfied having heard 7 of the 40, i'm not a HUGE metal fan but do need a little in my listening diet

i look at the interior of my sack and feel sad (ilxor), Monday, 29 November 2010 04:43 (six years ago) Permalink

all lists need more hip-hop/r&b/dance btw

i look at the interior of my sack and feel sad (ilxor), Monday, 29 November 2010 04:43 (six years ago) Permalink

33 The Roots – How I Got Over You

love Mojo's inadvertent "we love this album so much we can't remember the exact title" over here

― some dude, Sunday, 28 November 2010 18:25 (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Its printed correctly in the magazine, was this not a typo on the part of whoever uploaded the list to the interwebs, ie not MOJO?

it ain't about the sauce it's about the danger (stevie), Monday, 29 November 2010 08:16 (six years ago) Permalink

disappointed that taylor swift didnt make the decibel list

markers, Monday, 29 November 2010 08:18 (six years ago) Permalink

I did the typo, I always do one just to see how far it travels.

posted before but

The Fly Magazine (Nov/Dec issue)

50 Wavves - King of The Beach
49 Gold Panda - Lucky Shiner
48 Connan Mockasin - Please Turn Me Into The Snat
47 Menomena - Mines
46 Jonsi - Go
45 Midlake - The Courage of Others
44 Kele - The Boxer
43 Vampire Weekend - Contra
42 Steve Mason - Boys Outside
41 No Age - Everything In Between
40 Archie Bronson Outfit - Coconut
39 Delphic - Acolyte
38 Dinosaur Pile-Up - Growing Pains
37 Caribou - Swim
36 Crocodiles - Sleep Forever
35 Two Door Cinema Club - Tourist History
34 Sufer Blood - Astro Coast
33 Les Savy Fav - Root For Ruin
32 Zola Jesus - Stridulum II
31 Male Bonding - Nothing Hurts
30 Chew Lips - Unicorn
29 MGMT - Congratulations
28 The Black Keys - Brothers
27 Edwyn Collins - Losing Sleep
26 Villagers - Becoming A Jackal
25 Hot Chip - One Life Stand
24 Laura Marling - I Speak Because I Can
23 Los Campesinos! - Romance Is Boring
22 Liars - Sisterworld
21 Mystery Jets - Serotonin
20 Gorrilaz - Plastic Beach
19 Bombay Bicycle Club - Flaws
18 Warpaint - The Fool
17 Frightened Rabbit - The Winter of Mixed Drinks
16 The Eighties Matchbox B-Line Disaster - Blood & Fire
15 The Drums - The Drums
14 Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti - Before Today
13 Pulled Apart By Horses - Pulled Apart By Horses
12 Sleigh Bells - Treats
11 Best Coast - Crazy For You
10 Beach House - Teen Dream
09 Interpol - Interpol
08 Yeasayer - Odd Blood
07 The National - High Violet
06 Avi Buffalo - Avi Buffalo
05 Everything Everything - Man Alive
04 These New Puritans - Hidden
03 LCD Soundsystem - This Is Happening
02 Arcade Fire - The Suburbs
01 Foals - Total Life Forever

La Quenelle Culturelle

50) Grace Potter & The Nocturnals - Grace Potter & The Nocturnals
49) Menomena - Mines
48) The New Pornographers - Together
47) Maximimum Balloon - Maximimum Balloon
46) Da Brasilians - Da Brasilians
45) Barton Carrol - Together You and I
44) The Stone Foxes - Bears and Bulls
43) The Tallest Man on Earth - The Wild Hunt
42) The Parting Gifts - Strychnine Dandelion
41) Mystery Jets - Serotonin
40) Pete Molinari - A Train Bound For Glory
39) Blackbird Blackbird - Summer Heart
38) Joe Pug - Messenger
37) The Go Find - Everybody Knows It's Going To Happen
36) James Yuill - Movement In A Storm
35) Angus & Julia Stone - Down the Way
34) Forest City Lovers - Carriage
33) Francois Morel - Le Soir Des Lions
32) Spoon - Transference
31) Good Old War - Good Old War
30) Jonsi - Go
29) Pure Reason Revolution - Hammer and Anvil
28) Maps and Atlases - Perch Patchwork
27) Ray LaMontagne - God Willin' and the Creek Don't Rise
26) Jason Collett - Rat A Tat Tat
25) Lone Wolf - The Devil and I
24) Fyfe Dangerfield - Fly Yellow Moon
23) Junip - Fields
22) Avi Buffalo - Avi Buffalo
21) Yeasayer - Odd Blood
20) The Gaslight Anthem - American Slang
19) Minus The Bear - Omni
18) Saycet - Through The Window
17) Mando Diao - Above and Beyond (MTV Unplugged)
16) Uniform Motion - Life
15) Laura Marling - I Speak Because I Can
14) Dr. Dog - Shame, Shame
13) Josh Ritter - So Runs The World
12) Adam Kesher - Challenging Nature
11) Janelle Monane - The Archandroid
10) Kula Shaker - Pilgrims Progress
9) Broken Bells - Broken Bells
8) He's My Brother She's My Sister - Self-Titled EP
7) She and Him - Volume Two
6) The Black Keys - Brothers
5) Gigi - Maintenant
4) Folded Light - Kelly
3) Portugal. The Man - American Ghetto
2) Lightspeed Champion - Life Is Sweet! Nice To Meet You
1) Kings of Leon - Come Around Sundown

Get Off the Coast : Favorite 25 of 2010

25. Twins - The Other Side Of (Ruralfaune)
24. Lush Cola - Lush Cola (Patient Sounds)
23. Dem Hunger - Caveman Smack (Leaving)
22. RxRy - VAEIOUWLS (RxRy)
21. Sumsun - Samo Milagro (Leaving)
20. Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti - Before Today (4AD)
19. Truman Peyote & Many Mansions - Peaced Together (Whitehaus Family Record)
18. Emily Reo - Witch Mtn (Breakfast of Champs)
17. GR†LLGR†LL - GR†LLGR†LL (Disaro)
16. Ensemble Economique - Physcal (Not Not Fun)
15. Woods - At Echo Lake (Woodsist)
14. Twin Shadow - Forget (Terrible)
13. Oneohtrix Point Never - Returnal (Editions Mego)
12. High Wolf - Ascension (Not Not Fun)
11. Autre Ne Veut - Autre Ne Veut (Olde English Spelling Bee)
10. Julian Lynch - Mare (Olde English Spelling Bee)
09. D'EON - Palinopsia (Hippos In Tanks)
08. Velvet Davenport - Warmy Girls (Moon Glyph)
07. Dylan Ettinger - New Age Outlaws (Not Not Fun)
06. Crystal Castles - Crystal Castles (Universal Motown)
05. Pocahaunted - Make It Real (Not Not Fun)
04. Clive Tanaka y su orquesta - Jet Set Siempre 1° (Tall Corn Music)
03. LA Vampires & Zola Jesus - LA Vampires meets Zola Jesus (Not Not Fun)
02. Toro y Moi - Causers Of This (Carpark)
01. How To Dress Well - Love Remains (Lefse)

About.com alternative

30. The Walkmen 'Lisbon'
29. The Morning Benders 'Big Echo'
28. Magic Kids 'Memphis'
27. The Radio Dept. 'Clinging to a Scheme'
26. Club 8 'The People's Record'
25. Wildbirds and Peacedrums 'Rivers'
24. Dirty Projectors and Björk 'Mount Wittenberg Orca'
23. Ólöf Arnalds 'Innundir Skinni'
22. Sam Amidon 'I See the Sign'
21. Sharon Van Etten 'Epic'
20. Mountain Man 'Made the Harbor'
19. How to Dress Well 'Love Remains'
18. Grimes 'Halfaxa'
17. Here We Go Magic 'Pigeons'
16. Twin Shadow 'Forget'
15. Toro y Moi 'Causers of This'
14. The Ruby Suns 'Fight Softly'
13. Vampire Weekend 'Contra'
12. Best Coast 'Crazy for You'
11. Kisses 'The Heart of the Nightlife'
10. Arcade Fire 'The Suburbs'
9. Deerhunter 'Halcyon Digest'
8. Beach Fossils 'Beach Fossils'
7. Beach House 'Teen Dream'
6. White Hinterland 'Kairos'
5. Zola Jesus 'Stridulum EP
4. Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti 'Before Today'
3. Owen Pallett 'Heartland'
2. Sufjan Stevens 'The Age of Adz'
1. Joanna Newsom 'Have One On Me'

Amazon.co.uk

Black Keys - Brothers
Sleigh Bells - Treats
Vampire Weekend - Contra
Best Coast - Crazy for You
Villagers - Becoming a Jackal
Steve Mason - Boys Outside
Magnetic Man - Magnetic Man
Parkway Drive - Deep Blue
Arcade Fire - Suburbs
Caribou - Swim
Pendulum - Immersion
Chief - Modern Rituals
Imelda May - Mayhem
Beach House - Teen Dream
Two Door Cinema Club - Tourist History
The National - High Violet
Band of Horses - Infinite Arms
Foals - Total Life Forever
Plan B - The Defamation of Strickland Banks
Meursault - All Creatures Will Make Merry

Dots and Dashes

20. Cosmogramma, Flying Lotus
19. The Heart Of The Nightlife, Kisses
18. Ariel Pink Before Today, Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti
17. Disc-overy, Tinie Tempah
16. Treats, Sleigh Bells
15. False Priest, of Montreal
14. Astro Coast, Surfer Blood
13. Crooks & Lovers, Mount Kimbie
12. Puzzle, Amiina
11. $, Mark Sultan
10. Sisterworld, Liars
9. Blooming Summer, Blue Hawaii
8. Together, The New Pornographers
7. Pop Negro, El Guincho
6. The Way Out, The Books
5. Hidden, These New Puritans
4. Plastic Beach, Gorillaz
3. Lucky Shiner, Gold Panda
2. Teen Dream, Beach House
1. Swim, Caribou

Sonic (Sweden)

1. Håkan Hellström - 2 Steg Från Paradiset
2. Radio Dept. - Clinging To A Scheme
3. Anna von Hausswolff - Singing from the Grave
4. Midlake - Courage of Others
5. Merle Haggard - I am What I am
6. Teenage Fanclub - Shadows
7. Phosphorescent - Here's to Taking it Easy
8. Beach House - Teen Dream
9. Arcade Fire - Suburbs
10. Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti - Before Today
11. National - High Violet
12. Big Boi - Sir Luscious Left Foot: The Son Of Chico Dusty
13. First Aid Kit - Big Black & the Blue
14. Tracey Thorn - Love and It's Opposite
15. Sade - Soldier of Love
16. Robyn - Body Talk Pt 1
17. Steve Mason - Boys Outside
18. The-Dream - Love King
19. Glasser - Ring
20. Roky Erickson with Okkervil River - True Love Cast Out All Evil
21. Lloyd Cole - Broken Records
22. Säkert! - Facit
23. The Drums - The Drums
24. Caribou - Swim
25. Salem - King Night

Mitchell Stirling, Monday, 29 November 2010 12:20 (six years ago) Permalink

Here's the rest of Mojo.

Re-issues

20 Various - Alan Lomax In Haiti
19 Lightni'g Hopkins - His Blues
18 Kenny Graham And His Satellites - Moondog Suite
17 Charanjit Singh - Ten Ragas To A Disco Beat
16 Galaxie 500 - On Fire
15 Sandsy Denny - Sandy Denny
14 Neu! - Box
13 Bob Dylan - The Mono Box
12 Kris Kristofferson - Please Don't tell Me How the Story Ends: The Publishing Demos 1968-1972
11 David Bowie - Station To Station
10 Various - Theme Time Radio Hour Vol. 3
9 R.E.M. - Fables of The Reconstruction
8 The Teardrop Explodes - Kilimanjaro: Deluxe Edition
7 Robert Wyatt - His Greatest Misses
6 Bob Dylan - The Bootleg Series Vol. 9: The Witmark Demos
5 Miles Davis- Bitches Brew: Collector's Edition
4 Iggy and The Stooges - Raw Power
3 Jimi Hendrix - West Coast Seattle Boy
2 The Rolling Stones - Exile on Main St: Deluxe Edition
1 Bruce Springsteen - The Promise

Track of The Year: Janelle Monae - 'Tightrope'
Book of The Year: Rob Young - 'Electric Eden'
DVD of The Year: White, The Edge, Page - It Might Get Loud
Return of The Year: Edwyn Collins

Best of the rest

Jazz

10 John Ellis & Double-Wide - Puppet Mischief
9 Esperanza Spalding - Chamber Music Society
8 Nigel Price - Organ Trio... Live!
7 Paul Motian - Lost In A Dream
6 Secret Quartet - Bloor Street
5 Tom Harrell - Roman Nights
4 Ivo Neame - Caught In The Light of The Day
3 Django Bates - Beloved Bates
2 Grigoryan Brothers - Distance
1 Phronesis - Alive

Reggae Reissues

10 King Tubby - The Roots of Dub
9 Sound Iritation - Sound Iritation In Dub
8 Evolution of Dub: Vol 5 - The Missing Link
7 The Flying Lizards - The Secret Dub Life of The Flying Lizads
6 Dadawah - Peace and Love
5 King Tubby & The Aggrovaters - Shalom Dub
4 Prince Jammy - Strictly Dub
3 Gregogry Issacs - Private Lesson
2 Henry Junjo - Volcano Eruption
1 Lee Parry and The Upsetter - Sound System Scratch

Soundtracks

10 Various - Flipper Pyschout
9 Various - Shutter Island
8 Brian McBride - The Effective Disconnect
7 Hans Zimmer - Inception
6 Maurice Jarre - Lawrence of Arabia
5 Michael Small - Marathon Man/The Parallax View
4 Ray Budd - Get Carter
3 Lalo Schifrin - Bullit
2 Teho Teardo - Soundtrack Work 2004-2008
1 The The - Tony: A Soundtrack

Blues

10 Pokey LaFarge & The South City Three - Riverboat Soul
9 Cyndi Lauper - Memphis Blues
8 Jimmy Dawkins - Presents The Leric Stroy
7 Joe Bonamassa - Black Rock
6 Various - Fire In My Bones.. Raw + Rare Otherworldy African-American Gospel (1944-2007)
5 Janiva Magness - The Devil is An Angel Too
4 Oli Brown - Heads I Win Tales You Lose
3 Guitar Shorty - Bare Knuckle
2 Lightnin' Hopkins - His Blues
1 Various - Things About Comin' My Way: A Tribute To The Music Of The Mississippi Shieks

Folk

10 Emily Portman - The Glamoury
9 O'Hooley & Tidlow - Silent June
8 The Imagined Village - Empire & Love
7 Pete Coe - Backbane
6 Ian King - Panic Grass & Fever Few
5 Alasdair Roberts and Friends - Too Long In This Condition
4 Ewan McLennan - Rags and Riches
3 Bellowhead - Hedonism
2 The Burns Unit - Side Show
1 Eliza Carthy & Norma Waterson - Gift

Electronica

10 LCD Soundsystem - This Is Happening
9 Caribou - Swim
8 Reboot - Shunyata
7 Superpitcher - Kilmanjiro
6 Phaeleh - Fallen Light
5 Gold Panda - Lucky Shiner
4 Luke Abbot - Holkham Drones
3 Matthew Dear - Black City
2 Actress - Splazsh
1 Walls - Walls

Americana

10 Mountain Man - Made The Harbor
9 Isobel Campbell and Mark Lanegan - Hawk
8 Simon Joyner - Out Into The Snow
7 Kort - Invariable Heartache
6 Rocky Votolao - True Devotion
5 Bonnie 'Prince' Billy & The Cairo Gang - The Wonder Show of The World
4 Justin Townes Earle - Harlem River Blues
3 Curtis Harvey - Box of Stones
2 Dave Rawlings Machine - A Friend of A Friend
1 Willie Nelson - Country Music

World

10 Tamikrest - Adagh
9 Marcos Valle - Estatica
8 Sa Dingding - Harmony
7 Grupo Fantasma - El Existential
6 Hangai - Juan Zou De Rem
5 Ali Farka Toure & Toumani Diabate – Ali & Toumani
4 Konono No. 1 - Assume Crash Postion
3 The Chieftains ft. Ry Cooder - San Patrico
2 Carolina Chocolate Drops - Genuine Negro Jig
1 AfroCubism - AfroCubism

Underground

10 Sun Araw - On Patrol
9 Rachel Grimes - Book of Leaves
8 Harvey Milk - A Small Turn of Human Kindness
7 Richard Skelton - Landings
6 Barn Owl - Ancestral Star
5 Sophie Hutchings - Becalmed
4 Black Breath - Heavy Breathing
3 Tape & Bill Wells - Fugue
2 Peter Broderick How They Are
1 Endless Boogie - Full House Head

Mitchell Stirling, Monday, 29 November 2010 12:21 (six years ago) Permalink

I see Caribou showing up a lot, but it's unclear yet if there will be an equivalent to last year's GAPDY. Possible contenders:

Arcade Fire
Deerhunter
Joanna Newsom
Sufjan Stevens
Yeasayer
LCD Soundsystem
Vampire Weekend
Aerial Pink
Kanye West

YAKSVJALD?
SLAKYJAVD?

Here's a list of lists that I find interesting, and the date they came out last year. Not necessarily all that similar to my own tastes, but are unique enough that they always have some must-hear entries I missed earlier in the year. Anyone got the Rock-A-Rolla list?

Quietus, Dec 8
FACT, Dec 11
The Wire, Dec 14
Brainwashed, Jan 4
Silent Ballet, Dec 25
Rock-A-Rolla, Nov 25
Decibel, Nov 25
Terrorizer, Dec 31
Treblezine, Dec 14
Cokemachineglow, Dec 22
Resident Advisor, Dec 17
Artrocker, Dec 3

These are more along lines of general critical consensus, and have few surprises, but generally okay choices, at least for my tastes.

Pitchfork, Dec 18
NME, Nov 30 (Dec 8 last year)
PopMatters, Dec 14
Stereogum, Dec 10
Drowned In Sound, Dec 14
Onion A.V. Club, Dec 9
Guardian, Dec 18

Fastnbulbous, Monday, 29 November 2010 18:44 (six years ago) Permalink

I think rock-a-rolla was out not that long ago so im not sure if there will be another out before dec. I subscribe so I'll put it up if there is one in dec.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 29 November 2010 18:48 (six years ago) Permalink

Walls @ number one in the Mojo electronica poll is a weird one - didn't think it was all that.

Anyone want to tell me about any of these?

Sophie Hutchings - Becalmed
Black Breath - Heavy Breathing
Tape & Bill Wells - Fugue
Reboot - Shunyata
Phaeleh - Fallen Light
Luke Abbot - Holkham Drones

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Monday, 29 November 2010 19:23 (six years ago) Permalink

Black Breath is a really really great thrashy deathy punky metal band who fall squarely into the 'people who like this sort of thing will find it to be the sort of thing they like' category

smoking on his cigarette / listening to a Carcass set (DJ Mencap), Monday, 29 November 2010 20:05 (six years ago) Permalink

Where's the fucking Fall in all these fucking lists? And Liars? And Swans? Gah, I'm going back to bed. Unperson's is better than most of these magazine's... and that dude's got pretty far out taste in music.

And by most, I mean all.

Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Monday, 29 November 2010 20:42 (six years ago) Permalink

Tape + Bill Wells is wonderful, well worth the ~£3 it costs to download. Dreamy melodic textures in an Ashra kind of vein.

seandalai, Monday, 29 November 2010 20:50 (six years ago) Permalink

Okay, might well jump for that at that price. Enjoyed the last Tape album, not really familiar with what Bill Wells does though (but have been seeing his name around since forever).

Black Breath - sounds like an odd one for Mojo to get behind?

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Monday, 29 November 2010 21:45 (six years ago) Permalink

Feel like it might be one writer riding primarily for them but hey all good by me

smoking on his cigarette / listening to a Carcass set (DJ Mencap), Monday, 29 November 2010 21:57 (six years ago) Permalink

They've got a couple of dedicated "underground" writers who take turns on that column and there are a few other heads there. They have, for example, run sizeable features on SunnO))) and Slayer in the last year.

Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Monday, 29 November 2010 22:35 (six years ago) Permalink

10) Kula Shaker - Pilgrims Progress
9) Broken Bells - Broken Bells
8) He's My Brother She's My Sister - Self-Titled EP
7) She and Him - Volume Two
6) The Black Keys - Brothers
5) Gigi - Maintenant
4) Folded Light - Kelly
3) Portugal. The Man - American Ghetto
2) Lightspeed Champion - Life Is Sweet! Nice To Meet You
1) Kings of Leon - Come Around Sundown

oh wow

rmad and dangerous (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 00:29 (six years ago) Permalink

that versus the mojo top 10 is a grim, grim contention

rmad and dangerous (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 00:30 (six years ago) Permalink

Re Tape: My Ashra comparison was kind of off, they don't have any Gottsching guitar heroics going on, it was just the first thing that came into my head. If you liked previous Tape albums then I'd say you'll like this.

I'm only familiar with Bill Wells through collaborations like the Maher Shalal Hash Baz + BW album from 2009(?); he seems to be a good fit for Tape because I don't think Fugue sounds that different from Rideau or Luminarium (more piano maybe?).

seandalai, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 00:37 (six years ago) Permalink

I haven't heard more than like 5 on any of these.

The Reverend, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 04:17 (six years ago) Permalink

Joanna Newsome's album is getting a bit of a kicking UK polls wise (Rough Trade, Q, Mojo, NME...). I mean considering i seem to have read a million things about it being you know 'as good as YS only deeper, with more resonance..' amd all that hooey. people have decided it's not much cop it seems, even at this short distance from it's release.

piscesx, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 04:27 (six years ago) Permalink

^ a welcome development imo

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 04:28 (six years ago) Permalink

What's the consensus on the Black Keys over here? I've seen them appearing on several lists and thought it was enjoyable enough to deserve the mention on rockist magazines.

Moka, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 04:41 (six years ago) Permalink

Much better than Kings of Leon and MGMT at least

Moka, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 04:42 (six years ago) Permalink

^^^pretty much says it all

The Reverend, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 04:45 (six years ago) Permalink

Much better than Kings of Leon and MGMT at least

A ringing endorsement!

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 04:47 (six years ago) Permalink

"This piece of crap smells less bad than these other two pieces of crap over here!"

"I am a fairly respected poster." (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 04:48 (six years ago) Permalink

Also when you're listing 50 or 100 records and not a single one is the Rangda LP your net credibility drops to zero.

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 04:49 (six years ago) Permalink

(Full disclosure, I actually don't hate that new Black Keys. It isn't great, but when I'm forced to hear it I don't totally mind.)

"I am a fairly respected poster." (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 04:49 (six years ago) Permalink

the Rangda LP

Heard it. Not a fan.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 04:52 (six years ago) Permalink

The Joanna Newsom suffers due to its length, plus however much opinion coalesces in the short term, I think, given time, it will be her Tusk or her Sandinista.

Okay, I'm only being slightly facetious there. It is a brilliant album, rich and rewarding, but the effort needed for those rewards is commensurate, and most people—even (especially?) music critics—don't have the luxury of that time commitment in a crowded arena.

Then again, I'm apparently way out of step with ILM on both this record and the National's, so ymmv, etc.

tubby permacrocked whorefucker (Lostandfound), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 05:07 (six years ago) Permalink

Rangda zoomed into my top 5 at number 5 </newsyoucanuse> but of all the lists posted so far I'd not really expect it to be on any of their radars save for Mojo's

smoking on his cigarette / listening to a Carcass set (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 08:05 (six years ago) Permalink

oh shit, didn't realize there was a Tape album this year! Their song on this fantastic soundtrack is v much worth checking out: http://www.normanrecords.com/cd/107363-various-halsningar-fran-skogen-greetings-from-the-woods

Here we are in a sticky situation/ (Tape Store), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 08:22 (six years ago) Permalink

here you go:

Here we are in a sticky situation/ (Tape Store), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 08:23 (six years ago) Permalink

I have no idea what the final Wire list will look like, but here's the Top Ten I sent them:

1. Ayumi Hamasaki, Rock ’n’ Roll Circus (Avex Trax)

Have you written about this anywhere? I'm checking it out now anyway, intrigued. I love her at her best, didn't know this was that.

abcfsk, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 09:18 (six years ago) Permalink

Joanna Newsom I've heard won Uncut, not seen this confirmed though. Another two records that I thought might do a lot better have probably suffered from their respective release dates at either end of the year; These New Puritans and The Phantom Band.

Mitchell Stirling, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 09:24 (six years ago) Permalink

That Rangda album is pretty good... I mean obviously it's a lot better than MGMT and KOL but a world beater? Not so sure.

Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 11:09 (six years ago) Permalink

the rangda alb is gd, but the live shows were way way better (see also: swans!)

haven't seen sun city girls on any of these lists, either

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 11:13 (six years ago) Permalink

Kind of surprised that Charlotte Gainsbourg only appears on the Rough Trade list - I thought her album would get wider recognition.

seandalai, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 11:46 (six years ago) Permalink

NME

75. The Eighties Matchbox B-Line Disaster, 'Blood And Fir
74. Sufjan Stevens, 'Age Of Adz'
73. Interpol, 'Interpol'
72. Male Bonding, 'Nothing Hurts'
71. Field Music, 'Field Music (Measure)'
70. Broken Social Scene, 'Forgiveness Rock Record
69. Happy Birthday, 'Happy Birthday'
68. Edwyn Collins, 'Losing Sleep'
67. The Dillinger Escape Plan, 'Option Paralysis'
66. Gorillaz, 'Plastic Beach'
65. Robyn, 'Body Talk Pt 1'
64. Walls, 'Walls'
63. Perfume Genius, 'Learning
62. Gil Scott-Heron, 'I'm New Here'
61. Flying Lotus, 'Cosmogramma'
60. Belle And Sebastian, 'Write About Love'
59. Errors, 'Come Down With Me'
58. Crocodiles, 'Sleep Forever'
57. Joanna Newsom, 'Have One On Me'
56. Mount Kimbie, 'Crooks & Lovers'
55. Ikonika, 'Contact, Love, Want, Have'
54. First Aid Kit, 'The Big Black and The Blue'
53. Kelis, 'Flesh Tone'
52. Dum Dum Girls, 'I Will Be'
51. Charlotte Gainsbourg, 'IRM'
50. Frightened Rabbit, 'The Winter of Mixed Drinks'
49. Surfer Blood, 'Astro Coast'
48. My Chemical Romance, 'Danger Days'
47. Pulled Apart By Horses, 'Pulled Apart By Horses'
46. Paul Weller, 'Wake Up The Nation'
45. Four Tet, 'There Is Love In You'
44. Manic Street Preachers, 'Postcards From A Young Man'
43. Everything Everything, 'Man Alive'
42. Mystery Jets, 'Serotonin'
41. Steve Mason, 'Boys Outside'
40. Sleigh Bells, 'Treats'
39. Magnetic Man, 'Magnetic Man'
38. Big Boi, 'Sir Lucious Left Foot: The Son Of Chico Dusty'
37. Lonelady, 'Nerve Up'
36. Hurts, 'Happiness'
35. Glasser, 'Ring'
34. Kanye West, 'My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy'
33. Marina And The Diamonds, 'The Family Jewels'
32. Islet, 'Wimmy' (EP)
31. Crystal Castles, 'Crystal Castles'
30. Klaxons, 'Surfing The Void'
29. No Age, 'Everything In Between'
28. New Young Pony Club, 'The Optimist'
27. Best Coast, 'Crazy For You '
26. Les Savy Fav, 'Root For Ruin'
25. Avi Buffalo, 'Avi Buffalo'
24. Vampire Weekend, 'Contra'
23. Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti, 'Before Today'
22. Swans, 'My Father Will Guide Me Up A Rope To The Sky'
21. Janelle Monae, 'The ArchAndroid'
20. Deerhunter, 'Halcyon Digest'
19. MGMT, 'Congratulations'
18. Warpaint, 'The Fool'
17. Factory Floor, 'Untitled'
16. Grinderman, 'Grinderman 2'
15. Yeasayer, 'Odd Blood'
14. The Fall, 'Your Future, Our Clutter'
13. Gayngs, 'Relayted'
12. Caribou, 'Swim'
11. The National, 'High Violet'
10. The Drums, 'The Drums'
9. Liars, 'Sisterworld'
8. Salem, 'King Night'
7. Zola Jesus, 'Stridulum II'
6. Foals, 'Total Life Forever'
5. Laura Marling, 'I Speak Because I Can'
4. LCD Soundsystem, 'This Is Happening'
3. Beach House, 'Teen Dream'
2. Arcade Fire, 'The Suburbs'
1. These New Puritans, 'Hidden'

Mitchell Stirling, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 12:23 (six years ago) Permalink

NME list is better than I would have expected.

seandalai, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 12:25 (six years ago) Permalink

62. Gil Scott-Heron, 'I'm New Here'
55. Ikonika, 'Contact, Love, Want, Have'
53. Kelis, 'Flesh Tone'
51. Charlotte Gainsbourg, 'IRM'
38. Big Boi, 'Sir Lucious Left Foot: The Son Of Chico Dusty'
35. Glasser, 'Ring'
5. Laura Marling, 'I Speak Because I Can'

i'll rep for these at least

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 12:27 (six years ago) Permalink

nme list says 'this are the only 75 records we have decided to listen to, in an order i guess'

wheezy f baby (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 12:29 (six years ago) Permalink

NME list isn't bad at all, and I certainly can't argue with their #1.

mike t-diva, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 12:30 (six years ago) Permalink

I too think that is a pretty decent list, a lot of stuff I'd not expect on it that high like Zola Jesus. Have to throw the question up though, if that's one of the top 10 albums of the year, why not put her on the cover?

Mitchell Stirling, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 12:31 (six years ago) Permalink

nme list says 'this are the only 75 records we have decided to listen to, in an order i guess'

― wheezy f baby (a hoy hoy)

Most publications have this problem, when Pitchfork publishes it's writer's lists it will mainly be the same 150 albums appearing in 75% of the slots.

Mitchell Stirling, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 12:32 (six years ago) Permalink

Impressed they put These New Puritans at the top. Impressed generally by what Krissi Murison is doing with the NME. This is much more like the NME lists I read 15-20 years ago which helped me to discover records rather than simply affirm what I already knew.

The baby boomers have defined everything once and for all (Dorianlynskey), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 12:49 (six years ago) Permalink

So far, I'm surprised how far Joanna Newsom's stock has fallen and how much MGMT's has held, or even risen. I expected that record to be invisible come the end of the year.

The baby boomers have defined everything once and for all (Dorianlynskey), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 12:53 (six years ago) Permalink

Was looking everywhere through that NME list to see where TNP were, amazed and really quite glad to see it at #1. Quite a few other nice surprises there too - Zola Jesus, Glasser, Charlotte Gainsbourg, Lonelady...

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 12:58 (six years ago) Permalink

I agree with the NME's album of the year. Don't think that's happened in a very long time.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 12:58 (six years ago) Permalink

One record really missing out so far is the Knife - wasn't even in the Swedish chart upthread.

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 12:59 (six years ago) Permalink

^^^this

rmad and dangerous (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 12:59 (six years ago) Permalink

Also dull as a lot of these lists are, I can't see 2010 having a consensus as soul-crushing as GAPDY.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 13:00 (six years ago) Permalink

So far, I'm surprised how far Joanna Newsom's stock has fallen

i'm not really - it's def the kind of album that can impress on first listen, but then gets tidied away and not thought about after that.

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 13:01 (six years ago) Permalink

for the record i think that nme list is in general as dreadful as ever and full of some AWFUL records, especially near the top #smgdh #kmft

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 13:02 (six years ago) Permalink

That Klaxons album must be terrible to only make #30 in the NME list.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 13:03 (six years ago) Permalink

pretty sure mcnicholas era lists were worse than that

rouxymuzak (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 13:05 (six years ago) Permalink

My point isn't that Rangda should be #1 it's that these lists show how segregated music journalism has become... nearly every list so far, with minor subjective tweaks, is consensus indie rock + anointed R&B/rap/hip-hop/dance music + token world music phenom and/or reissue. That Mojo "underground" list is what really brought it home...in what universe are Harvey Milk, Sun Araw and Peter Broderick measured against each other? Whereas the top 10-20 of a lot of this these lists by and large sound very similar to my ears.

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 13:07 (six years ago) Permalink

20. Deerhunter, 'Halcyon Digest'
19. MGMT, 'Congratulations'
16. Grinderman, 'Grinderman 2'
15. Yeasayer, 'Odd Blood'
14. The Fall, 'Your Future, Our Clutter'
13. Gayngs, 'Relayted'
11. The National, 'High Violet'
10. The Drums, 'The Drums'
6. Foals, 'Total Life Forever'
4. LCD Soundsystem, 'This Is Happening'
3. Beach House, 'Teen Dream'
2. Arcade Fire, 'The Suburbs'
1. These New Puritans, 'Hidden'

^^there isn't much WORSE you can actually get from a top 20 with those acts in it

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 13:07 (six years ago) Permalink

like seriously if you think any of them contributed to the best music of 2010 then GOD HELP YOU

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 13:08 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah rly needed some 'xallops here

rouxymuzak (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 13:09 (six years ago) Permalink

NME is a lot better. The problem is that all the people saying it's a lot better are not in their target market of 15-25yos, who are deserting it in their thousands. Several issues this year have apparently barely scraped past 20,000.

ithappens, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 13:10 (six years ago) Permalink

fwiw i've only heard lcd of those but cmon, the fall vs mid 00s landfill indie isn't even a thing

rouxymuzak (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 13:10 (six years ago) Permalink

Not a Fall fan then, Lex?

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 13:11 (six years ago) Permalink

lex plz refrain from trying to engage with the fall and play nice

rmad and dangerous (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 13:11 (six years ago) Permalink

the fall are unlistenable, tho i'll take him/them/whatever over fucking gayngs, who seem to have fooled people with usually-reliable taste this year, and the boring-ass greyness of deerhunter and the national, and the middle-aged accountant take on rock of grinderman, and those fucking wimps the drums, and seriously why do foals still exist, and anyone repping for lcd soundsystem must have totally missed the point of them when they were good. SO MUCH H8 SO MUCH H8

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 13:16 (six years ago) Permalink

rouxymuzak (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 13:16 (six years ago) Permalink

I'm surprised to see The Fall in the NME list, it must be the first time they've appeared since the mid 90's when they used to appear every single year. It must have been a while since Paul Weller made the list too, that probably has something to do with them putting him on the cover the other week.

It's a shame they left out Hot Chip, it's probably going to end up being my album of the year.

Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 13:20 (six years ago) Permalink

Previously in NME top 20s since 2000

Coldplay, Richard Ashcroft, Starsailor, Slipknot, Aphex Twin's 'Drukqs', The Vines, The Datsuns, The Music, The Distillers, Hot Hot Heat, Jet, Muse, Razorlight, U2, The Magic Numbers, Art Brut, The Rakes, Babyshambles, Kasabian, My Chemical Romance, Biffy Clyro, Panic! At The Disco and Jamie T

So compared to the years those came from it's much better and I can see the development in the list has been influenced by the new staff members. It could have had The Courteeners, Two Door Cinema Club, Kate Nash, The Hold Steady, Band Of Horses, Dead Weather, The Gaslight Anthem, Kele Okerke, Weezer, Brandon Flowers, Get Cape. Wear Cape. Fly etc etc etc collectively much worse than Lex's selections from the top 20.

Mitchell Stirling, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 13:29 (six years ago) Permalink

I agree with Lex that the NME top 20 is mostly dull but probably for a different reason. Given it's an NME list, I'd say what was missing was youth or exuberance or star quality or noise. You know, ROCK MUSIC.

Part of the problem with the ongoing Pitchforkisation of the Brit music press is that it feels a bit cardigan-wearing, a bit daddish. Laura Marling and The Drums are the closest things in that top 10 to what the kids are actually listening to. Generally speaking they aren't listening to NME guitar music, and if they're listening to guitars at all they're listening to Kerrrang! guitars, and the NME still isn't adequately covering the other stuff they ARE listening to.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 13:35 (six years ago) Permalink

I dislike Salem and I think Zola Jesus is overrated, but seeing them in the NME top 10 is a pleasing sign of diversity that I didn't expect.

seandalai, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 13:35 (six years ago) Permalink

I agree that there's even more inertia creep of Britforking, very surprised to see under earlier NME blogs and on DiS the main complaint was how low Sufjan was, an album I found agonisingly tedious. Then again there is a whole generation of bands more feted by DiS than NME (Sky Larkin, LC! and others) that sound like they have been vastly more influenced by Pitchfork and therefore are in thrall to 90s US indie. Something like Everything Everything you'd could have imagined being much higher in earlier years.

There's about 20 or so US Indie/Pitchfork-y things in that and they are mainly bunched nearer #1 than #75. In 2005's top 50 there are about 5.

Mitchell Stirling, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 13:45 (six years ago) Permalink

Lex's annual favourite, Uncut

50 Kings of Leon - Come Around Sundown
49 Olof Arnalds - Innundir Skinni
48 Zola Jesus - Stridulum II
47 Solar Bears - She Was Colored In
46 Sleigh Bells - Treats
45 Toro Y Moi - Causers of This
44 Hot Chip - One Life Stand
43 Janelle Monae - The ArchAndroid
42 Blitzen Trapper - Destroyers of the Void
41 Steve Mason - Boys Outside
40 Trembling Bells - Abandoned Love
39 Yeasayer - Odd Blood
38 Wyatt, Atzmon, Stephen - For the Ghosts Within
37 Corinne Bailey Rae - The Sea
36 The Hold Steady - Heaven Is Whenever
35 Roky Erickson and Okkervil River - True Love Cast Out All Evil
34 Dylan LeBlanc- Pauper's Field
33 Edywn Collins - Losing Sleep
32 The Duke & The King - Long Live The Duke & The King
31 Richard Thompson - Dream Attic
30 Flying Lotus - Cosmogramma
29 Afrocubism - Afrocubism
28 The Black Keys - The Black Keys
27 Voice of the Seven Thunders - Voice of the Seven Thunders
26 Los Lobos - Tin Can Trust
25 Gayngs - Related
24 Alasdair Roberts - Too Long in This Condition
23 Teenage Fanclub - Shadows
22 Spoon - Transference
21 Hans Chew - Tennessee and Other Stories
20 Oneohtrix Point Never - Returnal
19 Manic Street Preachers - Postcards from a Young Man
18 Gorillaz - Plastic Beach
17 The Fall - Your Future, Our Clutter
16 Gil Scott-Heron - I'm New Here
15 Field Music - Field Music (Measure)
14 The National - High Violet
13 Vampire Weekend - Contra
12 These New Puritans - Hidden
11 Drive-By Truckers - The Big To-Dp
10 Grinderman - Grinderman II
9 LCD Soundsystem - This Is Happening
8 Ali Farka Toure and Toumani Diabate - Ali and Toumani
7 John Grant - Queen of Denmark
6 Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti - Before Today
5 Robert Plant - Band of Joy
4 Arcade Fire - The Suburbs
3 Paul Weller - Wake Up the Nation
2 Neil Young - Le Noise
1 Joanna Newsom - Have One on Me

ithappens, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 13:50 (six years ago) Permalink

That's more like it.

seandalai, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 13:54 (six years ago) Permalink

You know where you are with Uncut.

seandalai, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 13:54 (six years ago) Permalink

Surprised that the Spoon and Hot Chip albums aren't placing higher and more frequently. Had a hunch that John Grant and These New Puritans would do well.

mike t-diva, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 13:59 (six years ago) Permalink

It's strange seeing the Manic Street Preachers appearing in all these lists, the last couple of albums seem to have turned it around for them.

Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 14:08 (six years ago) Permalink

They're the new Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds, half-arsed vote from people with no imagination.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 14:12 (six years ago) Permalink

So far, I'm surprised how far Joanna Newsom's stock has fallen

i'm not really - it's def the kind of album that can impress on first listen, but then gets tidied away and not thought about after that.

i think j. newsom is kinda in "fans only" territory here -- fans probably love her new album, everyone else couldn't care less -- it doesn't really scream CROSSOVER INDIE ALBUM the way the first two did

i look at the interior of my sack and feel sad (ilxor), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 14:59 (six years ago) Permalink

61. Flying Lotus, 'Cosmogramma'
53. Kelis, 'Flesh Tone'
22. Swans, 'My Father Will Guide Me Up A Rope To The Sky'
12. Caribou, 'Swim'
7. Zola Jesus, 'Stridulum II'
1. These New Puritans, 'Hidden'

nice surprises on the NME list ^^

honestly surprised they ranked kanye so low (in the 30s) compared to where he's gonna place elsewhere

i look at the interior of my sack and feel sad (ilxor), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 15:01 (six years ago) Permalink

20 Oneohtrix Point Never - Returnal
12 These New Puritans - Hidden
2 Neil Young - Le Noise

lone high points on Uncut ^^

man i really need to hear that gil scott-heron album before year's end

i look at the interior of my sack and feel sad (ilxor), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 15:03 (six years ago) Permalink

There was a streaming link for Gil Scott-Heron on the ilx thread for the album (that was still working the other day)

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 15:17 (six years ago) Permalink

GSH album is stunning. i think deej said he couldn't decide if he really liked it or if it sounded like a moby remix album, but i don't hear the "moby remix" thing much at all, given the vocals and some of the abrasive elements buried in the arrangements.

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 30 November 2010 15:24 (six years ago) Permalink

I liked GSH when it came out but haven't found myself returning to it since.

seandalai, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 15:25 (six years ago) Permalink

i still get chills listening to me and the devil.

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 30 November 2010 15:28 (six years ago) Permalink

i'd bet $$ that Arcade Fire was NME number 1 with say These New Puritans at 2 until they read Q's poll last week.

piscesx, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 15:29 (six years ago) Permalink

I'd rate the GSH higher if it wasn't so short and, even then, padded out with interludes. It feels like an EP. New York Is Killing Me is one of the tracks of the year though.

The baby boomers have defined everything once and for all (Dorianlynskey), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 15:34 (six years ago) Permalink

I didn't know Robert Wyatt had done an album with Gilad Atzmon. Well, I guess no surprise since I don't pay much attention to either, but I'm somehow interested in the idea of them collaborating.

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 15:44 (six years ago) Permalink

As easy as it is to hate on the NME, it is kind of great that they put TNP at number one.

"I am a fairly respected poster." (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 15:46 (six years ago) Permalink

Actually, it was the NME's review of Hidden that piqued my interest in the first place. Been years since that happened!

mike t-diva, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 16:09 (six years ago) Permalink

Yes, I think if Lex is outraged by TNP at number one then he really hasn't considered the alternatives.

The baby boomers have defined everything once and for all (Dorianlynskey), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 16:20 (six years ago) Permalink

BBC 6 Radio

(No apparent order)

Arcade Fire – The Suburbs
Beach House -Teen Dream
National - High Violet
Warpaint – The Fool
Everything Everything – Man Alive
Foals - Total Life Forever
Laura Marling – I Speak Because I Can
Caribou - Swim
Gorillaz – Plastic Beach
Tame Impala - Inner Speaker

Good news, everyone! (kelpolaris), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 16:20 (six years ago) Permalink

i like the warpaint album but dunno why it's being rated higher than the school of 7 bells one

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 16:21 (six years ago) Permalink

if beach house, arcade fire and the national are this years GAPDY...BAN

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 16:22 (six years ago) Permalink

Think the NME opting for TNP in the same week as the NUS leadership decides to stop being "spineless" marks some sort of Carmodic tipping point.

Stevie T, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 16:23 (six years ago) Permalink

Is it just me that mixes up Beach House and Best Coast? I keep forgetting which one I've heard.

The baby boomers have defined everything once and for all (Dorianlynskey), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 16:24 (six years ago) Permalink

Think the NME opting for TNP in the same week as the NUS leadership decides to stop being "spineless" marks some sort of Carmodic tipping point.

explain?

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 16:25 (six years ago) Permalink

xp: I do the same. Heard both, not sold on either.

mike t-diva, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 16:28 (six years ago) Permalink

The first track on the Beach House album is still sublime but the rest of it gets pretty boring pretty quickly.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 16:31 (six years ago) Permalink

yes! exactly true. first track is great, don't care for the rest.

piscesx, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 17:51 (six years ago) Permalink

Is it just me that mixes up Beach House and Best Coast? I keep forgetting which one I've heard.

Constantly... even though they definitely have different styles. The whole soundz of the sixtiez fads needs to die immediately.

Good news, everyone! (kelpolaris), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 19:16 (six years ago) Permalink

love the Beach House album. the entire thing is beautiful imo. was disappointed by Crazy For You

Dan S, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 19:50 (six years ago) Permalink

Waiting for the first list that Taylor shows up on. Maybe Entertainment Weekly? Won't be surprised if she makes some of the NYT writers' lists.

a tenth level which features a single castle (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:58 (six years ago) Permalink

I'm so out of it that, a month ago, I was actually wondering whether she had a chance to win Pazz & Jop! But I'm starting to realize that was extreme wishful thinking. Now I'm wondering if Top 10 is out of the question. (Top 40 should be a given, though, right? I hope.)

xhuxk, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:02 (six years ago) Permalink

Then again, most of these lists are British, right? So they're not much to go on, Pazz&Jop-wise.

xhuxk, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:03 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah taylor swift basically does not exist for 90% of british critics

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:03 (six years ago) Permalink

im sure all the old fart middlebrow critics will vote for her in their droves for P&J.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:03 (six years ago) Permalink

(smh at them OBV)

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:04 (six years ago) Permalink

smh = shake my head?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:04 (six years ago) Permalink

xp Btw, wackiest things about those Mojo lists have to be Cyndi Lauper with the #9 blues album (which might good, who knows) and Carolina Chocolate Drops with the #2 world music album. (Though I guess North Carolina is in the world, technically.)

xhuxk, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:06 (six years ago) Permalink

Mojo lists are usually more varied than most mags tbh.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:08 (six years ago) Permalink

all the old fart middlebrow critics will vote for her in their droves

Yeah, old fart middlebrow guys all love teen-pop country. (Still, hope they do. Assuming they're still voting these days.)

xhuxk, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:08 (six years ago) Permalink

smh = shaking my head, yes
kmt = kissing my teeth, for future ref, because that will assuredly be a reaction to this thread

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:09 (six years ago) Permalink

haha kmt is most definitely a new one. No idea what it means but thanks for the heads up!

Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:10 (six years ago) Permalink

Kissing my teeth only works if you can take them out first imo.

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:11 (six years ago) Permalink

haven't seen sun city girls on any of these lists, either

― Ward Fowler, Tuesday, November 30, 2010 6:13 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark

this, and no marnie stern, are the biggest WTFs so far

lil butterball (the baste god) (Edward III), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:13 (six years ago) Permalink

Kissing my teeth only works if you can take them out first imo.

what? idk whether you're serious about not knowing what kissing one's teeth is

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:14 (six years ago) Permalink

Hadn't decided whether to put Taylor #1, 2, or 3, but now I think I'm gonna give her #1 just because.

xp: Marnie Stern doesn't surprise me. I loved her first two records, and I like this one, but not quite as much. It's probably not a top-10 for me, and I had her last one as my #1 that year.

a tenth level which features a single castle (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:14 (six years ago) Permalink

what? idk whether you're serious about not knowing what kissing one's teeth is

Genuinely have no idea on this. Eager to be schooled.

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:18 (six years ago) Permalink

xpost
never heard this expression before tonight too. Thank goodness for urban dictionary.

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:18 (six years ago) Permalink

My immediate thought was that it was similar to A Partridge's "kiss my face" exclamation.

Neil S, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:20 (six years ago) Permalink

I assumed it was the noise plumbers make when they give you an estimate on a bill

Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:20 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah it's hard to actually describe but clearly none of you have ever talked to any caribbean women, lol

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:23 (six years ago) Permalink

I'm not sure i've ever seen one round here tbh nevermind spoke to one , lol.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:24 (six years ago) Permalink

xp I know what you mean Lex, African women use the same expression to punctuate conversation.

Neil S, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:30 (six years ago) Permalink

Trisha on Bo Selcta! was fond of saying kiss my teeth.

Mitchell Stirling, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:53 (six years ago) Permalink

that was a terrible terrible program!

Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 22:10 (six years ago) Permalink

kmt = kissing my teeth, for future ref, because that will assuredly be a reaction to this thread

― lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:09 (1 hour ago)

feelin this

lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 22:46 (six years ago) Permalink

'kissing your teeth' is actually more like sucking air through your teeth, or tutting with more... Attitude..?
It's generally used to make a sound of disapproval. It is stereotypically said that black people use it, but other people use it too... It's just known more as a black thing, because mostly Jamaicans use it.
Kmt is an abbreviation, just like lol is an abbreviation for 'laugh out loud'
and it's not as stupid as some of you non british/english make out.
Just because you don't use the slang, doesn't give you the right to insult other ways of speaking. Every country has their list of slang words, and so do we...

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Tim F, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 01:13 (six years ago) Permalink

lol @ that whole exchange

I never heard it called "kissing" teeth, we say "sucking your teeth," same difference tho

lol

no hipster hats (The Brainwasher), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 01:15 (six years ago) Permalink

cooly g's twitter and fbook feeds are veritable feasts of KMT

http://twitter.com/COOLYGuk/status/9398538496638976

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 01:21 (six years ago) Permalink

over here we say kmg, i.e. "kissing my grits"

Mark, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 03:18 (six years ago) Permalink

Yup, third or fourth year in a row where NME list was more interesting than Uncut/MOJO.

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 07:37 (six years ago) Permalink

NME Tracks

75. Jam City, 'Ecstasy Refix'
74. Eminem Feat. Rihanna, 'Love The Way You Lie'
73. Addison Groove, 'Footcrab'
72. Active Child, 'She Was A Vision'
71. The Futureheads, ‘The Heartbeat Song’
70. DJ Nate, ‘Call Me When You’re Sober’
69. Egyptian Hip Hop, 'Moon Crooner'
68. Foals, ‘Miami’
67. New Young Pony Club, ‘Lost A Girl'
66. Les Savy Fav, 'Let's Get Out Of Here'
65. Beach House, ‘Zebra'
64. Joy Orbison, ‘The Shrew Would Have Cushioned The Blow’
63. Islet, ‘Ringerz’
62. Caribou, ‘Odessa’
61. Salem, 'King Night'
60. Dead Skeletons, 'Dead Mantra'
59. Willow Smith, 'Whip My Hair'
58. Frankie & The Heartstrings, 'Tender'
57. Interpol, 'Lights'
56. Sleigh Bells, 'Tell 'Em'
55. Gaggle, 'I Hear Flies'
54. Vampire Weekend, 'Giving Up The Gun'
53. Warpaint, 'Elephants'
52. Klaxons, 'Echoes'
51. Kelis, '4th Of July (Fireworks)'
50. Summer Camp, 'Ghost Train'
49. Crocodiles, 'Sleep Forever'
48. Mystery Jets, 'Dreaming Of Another World'
47. Ariel Pink’s Haunted Graffiti, 'Round And Round'
46. Manic Street Preachers, '(It’s Not War) Just The End Of Love'
45. Liars, 'Scissor'
44. Biffy Clyro, 'Bubbles'
43. Darwin Deez, 'Constellations'
42. Robyn, 'Dancing On My Own'
41. Foals, 'This Orient'
40. Kele, 'Tenderoni'
39. Arcade Fire, 'Ready To Start'
38. Mark Ronson & The Business Intl, 'Bang Bang Bang'
37. Glasser, 'Home'
36. Les Savy Fav, 'Sleepless In Silverlake'
35. The Knife, 'Colouring Of Pigeons'
34. Katy Perry Feat. Snoop Dogg, 'California Gurls'
33. Big Boi, 'Shutterbugg'
32. Klaxons, 'Flashover'
31. Cee Lo Green, 'Fuck You'
30. Yeasayer, 'O.N.E.'
29. My Chemical Romance, 'Na Na Na'
28. The Drums, 'Forever And Ever, Amen'
27. Tinie Tempah, 'Pass Out'
26. Magnetic Man Feat. Katy B, 'Perfect Stranger'
25. Lady Gaga Feat. Beyonce, 'Telephone'.
24. Everything Everything, 'Schoolin''
23. LCD Soundsystem, 'I Can Change'
22. Yeasayer, 'Ambling Alp'
21. Avi Buffalo, 'What’s In It For?'
20. Kelis, 'Acapella'
19. Crystal Castles, 'Celestica'
18. Egyptian Hip Hop, 'Rad Pitt'
17. The National, 'Bloodbuzz Ohio'
16. Best Coast, 'Boyfriend'
15. Warpaint, 'Undertow'
14. These New Puritans, 'We Want War'
13. LCD Soundsystem, 'Drunk Girls'.
12. Factory Floor, 'Lying'
11. MIA, 'Born Free'
10. The Fall, 'Bury Pts 2+4'
9. Zola Jesus, 'Night'
8. Grinderman, 'Heathen Child'
7. Surfer Blood, 'Swim (To Reach The End)'
6. Gorillaz, 'Stylo'
5. Arcade Fire, 'We Used To Wait'
4. Kanye West, 'Power'
3. Janelle Monae, 'Tightrope'
2. MIA, 'XXXO'
1. Foals, 'Spanish Sahara'

Mitchell Stirling, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 16:16 (six years ago) Permalink

75. Jam City, 'Ecstasy Refix'

WOW serious respect for this one actually ("arpjam" is better but we'll give them a pass seeing as it was only released this week)

there are quite a few really good songs elsewhere in the list but tbh there's a lot of total bullshit as well, and like the albums it gets worse and worse the higher you go, because the nme fundamentally has shitty taste

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 16:20 (six years ago) Permalink

Slam dunking in at no. 35, it's the Knife...

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 16:22 (six years ago) Permalink

34. Katy Perry Feat. Snoop Dogg, 'California Gurls'

serious respect for this one...

NAH

modrić in paradise (blueski), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 16:34 (six years ago) Permalink

That NME top 10 is fucking awful and I am totally unsurprised to see them repping for Jam City.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 16:35 (six years ago) Permalink

I *am* surprised to see DJ Nate in there.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 16:36 (six years ago) Permalink

oh nos. 6, 8 are damn good songs.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 1 December 2010 16:37 (six years ago) Permalink

tho i would have chosen a different grinderman song (worm tamer), and a different zola jesus song (poor animals)

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 1 December 2010 16:38 (six years ago) Permalink

70. DJ Nate, ‘Call Me When You’re Sober’
65. Beach House, ‘Zebra'
64. Joy Orbison, ‘The Shrew Would Have Cushioned The Blow’
59. Willow Smith, 'Whip My Hair'
56. Sleigh Bells, 'Tell 'Em'
51. Kelis, '4th Of July (Fireworks)'
37. Glasser, 'Home'
33. Big Boi, 'Shutterbugg'
27. Tinie Tempah, 'Pass Out'
26. Magnetic Man Feat. Katy B, 'Perfect Stranger'
15. Warpaint, 'Undertow'
14. These New Puritans, 'We Want War'
5. Arcade Fire, 'We Used To Wait'
3. Janelle Monae, 'Tightrope'

Will rep for these, but that's it.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 16:42 (six years ago) Permalink

That NME top 10 is fucking awful and I am totally unsurprised to see them repping for Jam City.

i wonder if it will ever be possible to mention a night slugs related thing on ilx without one of you, tim or rtc snarking.

i'm surprised at kelis being the token r&b diva (not that those songs are r&b but ygm), surprised at anyone remembering that knife opera (and choosing to rep for it in the tracks list?!) and surprised in a bad way at that eminem/rihanna song showing up. why would anyone vote for that, why.

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 16:43 (six years ago) Permalink

3. Janelle Monae, 'Tightrope'

she's r&b(-ish), no?

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 1 December 2010 16:44 (six years ago) Permalink

tracks from that in my own top 100

xxxo - but the SBTRKT remix
tightrope
stylo (maybe)
undertow (maybe)
celestica (srs grower)
i can change (ditto)
telephone (and again)
pass out
shutterbugg
round and round
the shrew...

modrić in paradise (blueski), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 16:44 (six years ago) Permalink

i'm surprised at kelis being the token r&b diva (not that those songs are r&b but ygm)

Nah they've been pro-Kelis since the first album, she is very much the r&b diva it's okay for indie kids to like. Janelle Monae too now, but she's almost as much rock as she is r&b (in the way that, say, Prince was).

Matt DC, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 16:52 (six years ago) Permalink

surprised at anyone remembering that knife opera (and choosing to rep for it in the tracks list?!)

I've gone back to it and it's growing on me the second time around. But yeah, opting for individual tracks off it is a bit of a cop out.

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 16:53 (six years ago) Permalink

the only actual r&b song in the list is, like, "whip my hair" anyway

we know that "call me when you're sober" is based around an evanescence sample, of all things, right? it's such an amazing track though not as stupendous as "poetry" imo

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 16:54 (six years ago) Permalink

the only actual r&b song in the list is, like, "whip my hair" anyway

Come on, Tightrope totally counts, it's virtually a Rich Harrison production.

I don't like the Foals record but it's obviously in their demographic, but it's just utterly incomprehensible to me that anyone could make a credible argument for XXXO being the second-best song of the year.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 16:57 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah "tightrope" is obv retro-r&b, i should've put modern r&b

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 17:00 (six years ago) Permalink

prefer 'seeds' to 'colouring of pigeons' but i will probably like the remixes more

modrić in paradise (blueski), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 17:02 (six years ago) Permalink

Zola Jesus: cool name, unfuckingbelievably boring

Chester, Your Majesty (kelpolaris), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 17:03 (six years ago) Permalink

Eh, 'I Can't Stand' is one of the stand-out gloom anthems for these miserable times imo.

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 17:24 (six years ago) Permalink

Agree with blueski re. 'Seeds' too.

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 17:25 (six years ago) Permalink

I'm kind of curious now to see if Paul Weller makes *any* US lists...

dlp9001, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 18:07 (six years ago) Permalink

The guy is a total pissflap, I'd be pleased not to see his name much anywhere

Chester, Your Majesty (kelpolaris), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 18:21 (six years ago) Permalink

Let me guess which country you're from...

dlp9001, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 18:24 (six years ago) Permalink

First time in years that I haven't heard the NME's top single/track. Listening now. it just sounds like one of Bloc Party's big, moody, faintly electronic numbers. Is acclaim for Foals (number one album in The Fly) the manifestation of a desperate desire for a 20something Radiohead?

The baby boomers have defined everything once and for all (Dorianlynskey), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 18:54 (six years ago) Permalink

people actually listen to more of bloc party than banquet? guys are definition one hit wonders, the rest of their songs have zero imagination.

same applies to kaiser chiefs, who apparently are (for whatever reason) still popular

Chester, Your Majesty (kelpolaris), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 18:57 (six years ago) Permalink

Let me guess which country you're from...

The US actually, I just read a lot of brit mags at the bookstore...the current or last NME in which he poses upon the cover with beefy forearms calling UK to a revolution (headed under him, of course) made me want to gag the guy.

Chester, Your Majesty (kelpolaris), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 18:59 (six years ago) Permalink

also uk-born insults are so much funner than commonalities here like "you fucking douchebag" and "dumbass bitch" and such

Chester, Your Majesty (kelpolaris), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 19:03 (six years ago) Permalink

There may be some truth to that, but between "pissflap" and buying NME, I think you've lost your US citizenship.

I'm just fascinated by the (apparent) fact that everyone in the UK hates him and nobody in the US knows him, other than weirdo Jam fans and the like. He probably should have released the album under an alias that implied that David Bowie was behind the whole thing...

Anyway, I'm pleasantly surprised to see it popping up on year end lists, though from my cramped perspective I don't know if it's happening for good or for bad reasons.

dlp9001, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 19:16 (six years ago) Permalink

Nice to see Field Music at least getting a few scraps of recognition on these lists.

Darin, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 19:23 (six years ago) Permalink

most of my disgruntle stems from the fact that kevin shields, when he should be developing that new album in promise for over 20 years, was caught as the guitarist for weller's nme concert in which he was hailed a "godlike genius"

Chester, Your Majesty (kelpolaris), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 19:25 (six years ago) Permalink

Bloc Party's best moment was 'Like Eating Glass'

Can't say I'm on board with NME's list the way I am to a degree with the album list. Thought that 'Tightrope' would win tbh.

Like 'Spanish Sahara' and could make the lower reaches of my singles list but is a bit of an odd #1, in fact it's the first time since 2002 that the track of the year hasn't been a nailed on indie disco floorfiller, though probably do alright in those stakes.

Thinking about it every NME track of the year back to Bitter Sweet Symphony would do a pretty good job at an indie(ish) disco, even Foals and Doves.

Mitchell Stirling, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 19:56 (six years ago) Permalink

10. The Fall, 'Bury Pts 2+4'
9. Zola Jesus, 'Night'
8. Grinderman, 'Heathen Child'
4. Kanye West, 'Power'
3. Janelle Monae, 'Tightrope'
2. MIA, 'XXXO'

will rep for these in the top ten, but MIA belongs much lower

1. Foals, 'Spanish Sahara'

looooooool

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 21:16 (six years ago) Permalink

http://www.factmag.com/2010/11/30/40-best-albums-of-2010-40-31/

FACT are counting down their list

Number None, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 22:17 (six years ago) Permalink

It's definitely more interesting than the other lists so far

Dan S, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 22:48 (six years ago) Permalink

i always love fact's year (or decade)-end lists.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 1 December 2010 22:49 (six years ago) Permalink

hm. i've got the disc they list at no. 38, but i don't think i've ever listened to it! must investigate.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 1 December 2010 22:50 (six years ago) Permalink

The LA Vampires Meets Zola Jesus sounds interesting.

Dan S, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 22:54 (six years ago) Permalink

i love the idea; i'm not as sold on the execution (tbf, i've only heard bits-and-pieces).

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 1 December 2010 22:55 (six years ago) Permalink

Just acquired the Zola Jesus/LA Vampires thing on the strength of the blurb, liking it so far. I always find something new from Fact's lists.

Number None, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 23:04 (six years ago) Permalink

Not sure I was all that taken with the 'No No No' cover, but I enjoyed it on the whole.

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 23:12 (six years ago) Permalink

Definitely wanna hear that Dylan Ettinger. Ooh, it's probably on eMusic amirite?

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 23:15 (six years ago) Permalink

y

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 1 December 2010 23:15 (six years ago) Permalink

Yay!

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 23:15 (six years ago) Permalink

Yeah, FACT's lists are always great and loaded with new discoveries for me. "Spanish Sahara" is a great great song you fools. But I don't think it would climb my top ten.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 23:26 (six years ago) Permalink

That Fact list is great - I thought I had been keeping up with new releases to some degree, but I hadn't even heard of half the albums there. Just added a bunch to my Spotify "to listen" playlist.

seandalai, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 23:31 (six years ago) Permalink

First listens to Dylan Ettinger and Zola Jesus/LA Vampires are positive, though I'm not sure either is bringing much new to the party.

seandalai, Thursday, 2 December 2010 00:54 (six years ago) Permalink

emusic link on that dylan ettinger disc.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 2 December 2010 01:39 (six years ago) Permalink

damn i totally thought that foals had gone the way of the klaxons & shit

jagger reupholstered my pussy (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 2 December 2010 01:42 (six years ago) Permalink

This was a slightly different way of doing things;

http://thefourohfive.com/articles/4602

The 405s 45 favourite EPs of the year

1. Zola Jesus - 'Stridulum II'
2. Hold Your Horse It - 'Rammin' It Home'
3. Girls - 'Broken Dreams Club'
4. Stagecoach - 'Crash My Ride'
5. Dad Rocks! - 'Digital Age'
6. Tall Ships - 'There Is Nothing But Chemistry Here'
7. Islet - 'Wimmy'
8. Islet - 'Celebrate This Place'
9. Summer Camp - 'Young'
10. Egyptian Hip Hop - 'Some Reptiles Grew Wings'
11. Zola Jesus & LA Vampires - 'LA Vampires Meets Zola Jesus '
12. Botany - 'Feeling Today'
13. Wild Nothing - 'Golden Haze'
14. Jonquil - 'One Hundred Suns'
15. Selebrities - 'Ladies Man Effect'
16. El Guincho - 'Piratas De Sudamerica'
17. Megafaun - 'Heretofore EP'
18. Sufjan Stevens - 'All Delighted People'
19. James Blake - 'Klavierwerke'
20. Guards - 'Guards'
21. Museum of Bellas Artes - 'Days Ahead'
22. Tubelord - 'Tezcatlipoca'
23. Twin Sister - 'Color Your Life'
24. Gallops - 'Gallops'
25. Girls Names - 'Don't Let Me In'
26. Spectrals - 'Extended Play'
27. Tanlines - 'Settings'
28. Dirty Projectors & Bjork - 'Mount Wittenberg Orca'
29. The James Cleaver Quintet - 'Ten Stage of A Make Up'
30. Flying Lotus - 'Pattern + Gridworld'
31. Chad Valley - 'Chad Valley'
32. Owen Pallet - 'Swedish Love Story'
33. British Sea Power - 'Zeus '
34. Memoryhouse - 'The Years'
35. Becoming Real - 'Spectre'
36. Seams - 'Tourist EP'
37. Ursine Vulpine - 'Fenrir'
38. Flats - 'EP2'
39. A Sunny Day in Glasgow - 'Nitetime Rainbows'
40. Holy Fuck - '+Ghost'
41. Active Child - 'Curtis Lane'
42. James Blake - 'CYMK'
43. Monzano - 'Apple Handsome'
44. Balam Acab - 'See Birds'
45. Los Campesinos! - 'All's Well That Ends'

Mitchell Stirling, Thursday, 2 December 2010 02:35 (six years ago) Permalink

Everyone is forgetting ROMANCE IS BORING :(

Here we are in a sticky situation/ (Tape Store), Thursday, 2 December 2010 02:37 (six years ago) Permalink

NPR alt-Latin top 10 albums

http://www.npr.org/blogs/altlatino/2010/12/01/131593815/alt-latino-best-albums-2010

curmudgeon, Thursday, 2 December 2010 04:57 (six years ago) Permalink

Everyone is forgetting ROMANCE IS BORING

All we can do is try, goddamn it. All we can do is try.

MumblestheRevelator, Thursday, 2 December 2010 05:22 (six years ago) Permalink

That FACT list is amazing.

Reel Around The Fountain Smokey BBQ Sauce (SeekAltRoute), Thursday, 2 December 2010 09:42 (six years ago) Permalink

NPR has multiple lists here

http://www.npr.org/series/131394847/the-best-music-of-2010

They like Arcade Fire best but they also like my Malian fave singer Khaira Arby

curmudgeon, Thursday, 2 December 2010 13:36 (six years ago) Permalink

Oops, actually Arcade Fire is just one of the 50 faves of NPR staff. There's also a best jazz and best classical list.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 2 December 2010 13:46 (six years ago) Permalink

Recommended by NPR Music Staff

Thomas Ades, Tevot

Agalloch, Marrow Of The Spirit

Aloe Blacc, Good Things

Khaira Arby, Timbuktu Tarab

Arcade Fire, The Suburbs

Erykah Badu, New Amerykah, Pt. 2: Return Of The Ankh

Big Boi, Sir Lucious Leftfoot...The Son Of Chico Dusty

The Black Keys, Brothers

Brooklyn Rider, Dominant Curve

Buke & Gass, Riposte

Carolina Chocolate Drops, Genuine Negro Jig

Regina Carter, Reverse Thread

Chancha Via Circuito, Rio Arriba

Deerhunter, Halcyon Digest

Issac Delgado, Love

Joyce DiDonato, Rossini: Colbran, The Muse

Flying Lotus, Cosmogramma

Four Tet, There Is Love In You

Vittorio Grigolo, The Italian Tenor

Gyptian, Hold You

Hilary Hahn, Higdon & Tchaikovsky: Violin Concertos

Mary Halvorson Quintet, Saturn Sings

Rita Indiana, El Juidero

Jamey Johnson, The Guitar Song

Jonsi, Go

Seu Jorge And Almaz, Seu Jorge And Almaz

King Sunny Ade, Baba Mo Tunde

Ray LaMontagne And The Pariah Dogs, God Willin' And The Creek Don't Rise

LCD Soundsystem, This Is Happening

Lower Dens, Twin Hand Movement

Alexander Melnikov, Shostakovich

Janelle Monae, The ArchAndroid

Jason Moran, Ten

Carla Morrison, Mientras Tu Dormias

The National, High Violet

Owen Pallett, Heartland

Sondra Radvanovsky, Verdi Arias

Josh Ritter, So Runs The World Away

Robyn, Body Talk

Kermit Ruffins, Happy Talk

Christian Scott, Yesterday You Said Tomorrow

Gil Scott-Heron, I'm New Here

Sleigh Bells, Treats

Esperanza Spalding, Chamber Music Society

Mavis Staples, You Are Not Alone

Sufjan Stevens, The Age Of Adz

The Tallest Man On Earth, The Wild Hunt

Titus Andronicus, The Monitor

Sharon Van Etten, Epic

Kanye West, My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy

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curmudgeon, Thursday, 2 December 2010 14:13 (six years ago) Permalink

that Zola Jesus EP was just not that good.

skip, Thursday, 2 December 2010 14:19 (six years ago) Permalink

A few EPs that 405 missed (a couple of which were maybe marketed as "albums," but they're 25 minutes or less, so they qualify.)

Art Museums – Rough Frame (Woodsit)
Chrome Dome – Chrome Dome (Lexicon Devil)
Major Lazer – Lazers Never Die EP (Interscope/Downtown/Mad Design)
The Sediment Club – The Sediment Club (Softspot)
Colt Ford – Country Is As Country Does (Average Joe’s)
Herpes – Das Kommt Von Kussen (Tapete)
Screaming Females – Singles (Don Giovanni)

xhuxk, Thursday, 2 December 2010 14:28 (six years ago) Permalink

that Zola Jesus EP was just not that good.

i liked her other 2010 ep better (the one with poor animals on it).

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 2 December 2010 14:38 (six years ago) Permalink

that Major Lazer EP is aggressively mediocre

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Thursday, 2 December 2010 14:50 (six years ago) Permalink

also I keep forgetting to check out that Esperanza Spalding album

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Thursday, 2 December 2010 14:51 (six years ago) Permalink

A publicist keeps sending me e-mails re Buke & Gass, but I haven't listened to it/them(?) yet.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 2 December 2010 15:30 (six years ago) Permalink

loooooool @ Agalloch on NPR's year end top 50

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Thursday, 2 December 2010 19:44 (six years ago) Permalink

Q is getting a bit too hip and "indie". It needs to bring back some of their old writers and get a bit more soft rock oriented again.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:53 (six years ago) Permalink

Never change, Geir. Never change.

no hipster hats (The Brainwasher), Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:54 (six years ago) Permalink

(unlike Q)

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 2 December 2010 21:57 (six years ago) Permalink

GORILLA VS. BEAR’s ALBUMS OF 2010

01 Beach House – Teen Dream
02 Ariel Pink’s Haunted Graffiti – Before Today
03 Shabazz Palaces – Of Light/Shabazz Palaces
04 James Blake – CMYK/Klavierwerke
05 Joanna Newsom – Have One on Me
06 Big Boi – Sir Lucious Left Foot: The Son of Chico Dusty
07 Lower Dens – Lower Dens
08 Games – That We Can Play
09 White Denim – Last Day of Summer
10 Girls – Broken Dreams Club
11 Toro y Moi – Causers of This
12 Earl Sweatshirt – EARL
13 Twin Sister – Color Your Life / Alternates
14 Big K.R.I.T. – wuz here
15 Dum Dum Girls – I Will Be
16 Grimes – Geidi Primes
17 The Samps – The Samps
18 Harlem – Hippies
19 Forest Swords – Dagger Paths
20 Twin Shadow – Forget
21 Frankie Rose & the Outs – Frankie Rose & the Outs
22 Arcade Fire – The Suburbs
23 Tennis – Tennis (cassette)
24 The Walkmen – Lisbon
25 Erykah Badu – New Amerykah Part II: Return of the Ankh
26 Deerhunter – Halcyon Digest
27 Mount Kimbie – Crooks & Lovers
28 Caribou – Swim
29 Shackleton – Fabric 55
30 Ty Segall – Melted

Good to see Games on the top 10

laser precise purpose maker era, Friday, 3 December 2010 00:55 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah at the Lower Dens ending up at number 7 as they are my latest addiction. such a great album.

World Series champion San Francisco Giants (Bee OK), Friday, 3 December 2010 01:05 (six years ago) Permalink

Paste

50. Marnie Stern: Marnie Stern [Kill Rock Stars]
49. Flying Lotus: Cosmogramma [Warp]
48. Local Natives: Gorilla Manor [Frenchkiss]
47. Yeasayer: Odd Blood [Secretly Canadian]
46. The Black Keys: Brothers [Nonesuch]
45. Deerhunter: Halcyon Digest [4AD]
44. Swans: My Father Will Guide Me Up A Rope To The Sky [Young God]
43. Stornoway: Beachcomber’s Windowsill [4AD]
42. Wavves: King of the Beach [Fat Possum]
41. Anaïs Mitchell: Hadestown
40. Free Energy: Stuck on Nothing [Astralwerks]
39. Sarah Jaffe: Suburban Nature [Kirtland]
38. Josh Ritter: So Runs the World Away [Pytheas]
37. Big Boi: Sir Lucious Left Foot: The Son of Chico Dusty [Def Jam]
36. Spoon: Transference [Merge]
35. Grinderman: Grinderman 2 [Mute Records/ANTI-]
34. Girl Talk: All Day [Illegal Art]
33. Blitzen Trapper: Destroyer of the Void [Sub Pop]
32. Carolina Chocolate Drops: Genuine Negro Jig [Nonesuch]
31. The Roots: How I Got Over
30. She & Him: Volume Two [Merge]
29. Freelance Whales: Weathervanes [Frenchkiss]
28. Laura Marling: I Speak Because I Can [Astralwerks]
27. Vampire Weekend: Contra [XL]
26. Lissie: Catching a Tiger [Fat Possum]
25. Various Artists: Preservation: An Album to Benefit Preservation Hall [Megaforce]
24. Beach House: Teen Dream [Sub Pop]
23. Laura Veirs: July Flame [Raven Marching Band]
22. The Tallest Man on Earth: The Wild Hunt [Dead Oceans]
21. Jamey Johnson: The Guitar Song [Mercury Nashville]
20. Suckers: Wild Smile [Frenchkiss]
19. Elizabeth Cook: Welder [31 Tigers]
18. Cee Lo Green: The Lady Killer [Elektra]
17. Jónsi: Go [XL]
16. Mavis Staples: You Are Not Alone [Anti-]
15. Justin Townes Earle: Harlem River Blues [Bloodshot]
14. Band of Horses: Infinite Arms [Brown Records/Fat Possum/Columbia]
13. Sharon Jones & the Dap-Kings: I Learned the Hard Way [Daptone]
12. Bruce Springsteen: The Promise: The Lost Sessions of Darkness on the Edge of Town [Columbia]
11. The National: High Violet [4AD]
10. Frightened Rabbit: The Winter of Mixed Drinks [Fat Cat]
9. Sufjan Stevens – The Age of Adz [Asthmatic Kitty]
8. Phosphorescent: Here’s to Taking It Easy [Dead Oceans]
7. Arcade Fire: The Suburbs [Merge]
6. Sleigh Bells: Treats [Mom + Pop]
5. Titus Andronicus: The Monitor [XL]
4. Kanye West: My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy [Def Jam/Roc-a-Fella]
3. Mumford & Sons: Sigh No More [Glassnote]
2. Janelle Monáe: The ArchAndroid [The Wondaland Arts Society/Bad Boy]
1. LCD Soundsystem: This Is Happening [EMI/DFA]

World Series champion San Francisco Giants (Bee OK), Friday, 3 December 2010 03:36 (six years ago) Permalink

a boring & predictable list from beyond the grave

J0rdan S., Friday, 3 December 2010 03:39 (six years ago) Permalink

paste magazine meeting room:

"man fuck this year end list shit, i dont wanna put more than like 20 minutes into this"

"hmmmm okay. how about we just write down lots of mid-tier indie bands and stuff that indie ppl like?"

"gotcha. how will we decide what gets on the list?"

"how about, anything that got over 7.0 on pfork and was written about on lots of indie blogs?"

"okay! what's #1 gonna be, that is an important choice"

"lcd soundsystem duh. he pleases the indie kids and the dance/electronic kids at the same time"

"sounds good. how do we order the other stuff?"

"are you fuckin kidding me, no one cares about the order after #1"

"k. lets draw straws or something"

(.......15 minutes pass.......)

IN TODAY'S ISSUE: PASTE MAGAZINE 2010 YEAR END BEST ALBUMS LIST

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Friday, 3 December 2010 03:47 (six years ago) Permalink

I don't see what's so mindblowing about Fact's list. Sure it's got some records you wont see in other lists but have you guys listened to the records theyre pimping? Bunch of boring, run-of-the-mill albums with terrible production.

Different =/= interesting.

Moka, Friday, 3 December 2010 08:45 (six years ago) Permalink

Before you come barking at me I mean the albums that few if any other lists have mentioned and which sound awful from what I've heard so far: DYLAN ETTINGER, DJ RASHAD, FRANK (JUST FRANK), DJ ROC, SOLAR BEARS, AUTRE NE VEUT.

Moka, Friday, 3 December 2010 08:54 (six years ago) Permalink

the rashad and roc records are great though when it comes to juke, dj nate >>>> all

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Friday, 3 December 2010 08:55 (six years ago) Permalink

The Dylan Ettinger sounded fine to me when I was fooling around in the snow yesterday. Wasn't into the Solar Bears full-length so much though.

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Friday, 3 December 2010 08:59 (six years ago) Permalink

the dj roc record seemed interesting but annoyed me intensely with the vocal rap loops. The Rashad song they've got as a sample in there is awful, can't say I've heard the rest of the record but the amateurish keyboard drums on that song drove me insane, is the guy from Salem guesting on that one?

Moka, Friday, 3 December 2010 09:04 (six years ago) Permalink

ppl are perfectly entitled to hate Rashad (and juke in general) but keen to hear what you've been listening to that makes it "run of the mill"

smoking on his cigarette / listening to a Carcass set (DJ Mencap), Friday, 3 December 2010 09:30 (six years ago) Permalink

Wasn't specifically pointing at Rashad but anyway; I'm not familiar with the 'juke/footwork' scene so I don't really know how 'unique' this sort of music might really be but I feel like I've been listening to the same overused bass and drums patches for too long in the same unimaginative styles that it starts to feel old to me.

Moka, Friday, 3 December 2010 09:46 (six years ago) Permalink

ppl are keen to hear what you've been listening to that doesn't make it 'run of the mill'

Moka, Friday, 3 December 2010 09:50 (six years ago) Permalink

Given that pretty much no one outside Chicago had heard any juke a year ago, does it really matter whether it's run of the mill or not?

Matt DC, Friday, 3 December 2010 09:59 (six years ago) Permalink

In some ways, John Roberts’ Glass Eights stands out because of the lack of good contemporary house and techno albums around – yes, it’s one of the genre’s best LPs of the year, but where’s the competition?

This seems like a weird thing to write in a Fact list that's full of house and techno albums.

Matt DC, Friday, 3 December 2010 10:02 (six years ago) Permalink

Vibe

10. Jazmine Sullivan - Love Me Back
9. Nicki Minaj - Pink Friday
8. Big Boi - Sir Lucious Left Foot: The Son of Chico Dusty
7. The Roots - How I Got Over
6. T.I. - No Mercy
5. Janelle Monáe - The ArchAndroid
4. Eminem - Recovery
3. Drake - Thank Me Later
2. Rick Ross - Teflon Don
1. Kanye West - My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy

Mitchell Stirling, Friday, 3 December 2010 10:39 (six years ago) Permalink

^^^ Corny indie fucks.

Matt DC, Friday, 3 December 2010 10:48 (six years ago) Permalink

lol i actively hate the entire top 6 of the vibe list

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Friday, 3 December 2010 10:51 (six years ago) Permalink

in some cases what i hate is the sheer averageness

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Friday, 3 December 2010 10:51 (six years ago) Permalink

6. T.I. - No Mercy

lol, gotta love label politics still entering the "criticism" of a magazine that no one cares about & has only been up and running for like 8 months after it went bankrupt

gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Friday, 3 December 2010 10:54 (six years ago) Permalink

that album is really unbelievably dreadful

gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Friday, 3 December 2010 10:55 (six years ago) Permalink

I haven't heard the TI, didn't even know it existed. What's the deal with it?

Matt DC, Friday, 3 December 2010 10:55 (six years ago) Permalink

i really liked all the promo singles from the king uncaged campaign - then he got arrested again and it was retitled no mercy, all those singles were scrapped and i assume the entire project was cobbled together from b.o.b leftovers ;_;

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Friday, 3 December 2010 10:57 (six years ago) Permalink

it's pretty much all the worst parts of 'paper trail' as a whole album

gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Friday, 3 December 2010 10:57 (six years ago) Permalink

i mean, i do recommend d/lding "ya hear me", "i'm back", "yeah ya know" and "got your back" though

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Friday, 3 December 2010 10:58 (six years ago) Permalink

and "pledge allegiance to the swag", and "dying in your arms" with jazmine sullivan. you could make a decent mini-album out of all the cuts that didn't make the actual album

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Friday, 3 December 2010 10:59 (six years ago) Permalink

leaden & unexciting beats that barely sound like rap music, really unappealing attempts at contemporary pop music

gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Friday, 3 December 2010 10:59 (six years ago) Permalink

"meditative" rapping

gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Friday, 3 December 2010 10:59 (six years ago) Permalink

Before you come barking at me I mean the albums that few if any other lists have mentioned and which sound awful from what I've heard so far: DYLAN ETTINGER, DJ RASHAD, FRANK (JUST FRANK), DJ ROC, SOLAR BEARS, AUTRE NE VEUT.

The Dylan Ettinger and Autre Ne Veut albums have some excellent tracks, though I'm not sure they hold together as albums that well.

I haven't heard many standout albums this year tbh; I know roughly what my top 5 are, after that it's semi-random picking of albums I've enjoyed listening to a couple of times.

seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 11:00 (six years ago) Permalink

i never listened to 'fuck a mixtape' but it's almost like that was a pre-release peace offering for this album barely containing rap music

gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Friday, 3 December 2010 11:01 (six years ago) Permalink

two of like the only three actual rap songs prominently feature pharrell & drake, so they suck by default

gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Friday, 3 December 2010 11:02 (six years ago) Permalink

What's Solar Bears' vibe? my girlfriend's well into them so i could ask her i guess but i'd rather get the ILM view.

Darren Huckerby (Dwight Yorke), Friday, 3 December 2010 11:16 (six years ago) Permalink

Kind of hazy Boards of Canada-ish stuff on Planet Mu, mixed with maybe a little post-rock. I know that sounds like a really boring thing, but I did actually enjoy the EP that preceded the album cos those elements were combined in surprising ways. The album felt a bit too wishy-washy for me, but I did only hear it once.

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Friday, 3 December 2010 11:39 (six years ago) Permalink

"Amazing" on No Mercy might be as terrible as any given track by Salem.

Is the Ettinger album the one that sounds like Sonic Youth's Made in USA sdtk played through a Ford Pinto stock system?

Andy K, Friday, 3 December 2010 11:48 (six years ago) Permalink

No, that's Rangers' Space Truckin'.

Andy K, Friday, 3 December 2010 11:48 (six years ago) Permalink

SUBURBAN TOURS

Must wake up.

Andy K, Friday, 3 December 2010 11:49 (six years ago) Permalink

Kind of hazy Boards of Canada-ish stuff on Planet Mu, mixed with maybe a little post-rock. I know that sounds like a really boring thing, but I did actually enjoy the EP that preceded the album cos those elements were combined in surprising ways. The album felt a bit too wishy-washy for me, but I did only hear it once.

― Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Friday, 3 December 2010 11:39 (22 minutes ago) Bookmark

Cool, totally feared the worst based on their name.

Darren Huckerby (Dwight Yorke), Friday, 3 December 2010 12:09 (six years ago) Permalink

Andy K, is that Rangers album good? Not sure what to infer from your description.

seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 12:17 (six years ago) Permalink

it's pretty much all the worst parts of 'paper trail' as a whole album

otm alas

look at it, pwn3d, made u look at my peen/vadge (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 December 2010 12:18 (six years ago) Permalink

The Solar Bears album is excellent, nice variety of sounds on it.

Number None, Friday, 3 December 2010 13:08 (six years ago) Permalink

The FACT top ten isn't very good though, Drake...really? And that Darkstar album was just a bore.

Number None, Friday, 3 December 2010 13:16 (six years ago) Permalink

Crushingly disappointed by the Darkstar album. On the basis of Aidy's Girl I was expecting something great but it's so bland and insipid bar a couple of tracks.

The baby boomers have defined everything once and for all (Dorianlynskey), Friday, 3 December 2010 13:19 (six years ago) Permalink

have to agree - when i first heard it i was massively hungover and it pretty much hit the spot, and i assumed it'd become one of my favourites of the year. when i went back to it, it was just...mimsy, and weak.

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Friday, 3 December 2010 13:21 (six years ago) Permalink

the drake album IS even worse than the kanye album, tho, that's right

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Friday, 3 December 2010 13:22 (six years ago) Permalink

Can't argue with the Oneohtrix, Emeralds and Actress albums. Forest Swords hasn't grown on me all that much. Love a few of the tracks on the Darkstar, but yeah, it's a bit *meh* overall.

Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Friday, 3 December 2010 13:23 (six years ago) Permalink

Yeah the Darkstar album is BORING, a lot of the prose I read about it seemed to centre on them having moved beyond dubstep but I'd never imagined that 'fifth rate Junior Boys' was what lay on the other side. It's like they ran out of ideas after Aidy's Girl.

I've never heard of, let alone heard, that Forest Swords album at #1. Any good?

Matt DC, Friday, 3 December 2010 13:26 (six years ago) Permalink

Hmm. Forest Swords is definitely the best of the OESB batch that I've heard and I think I pencilled it in as my #5 for the year. It doesn't scream "year-defining album" for me though.

Agree that the Darkstar album is lame, really dislike Salem too. OPN and Emeralds albums are decent but somehow they didn't click for me.

seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 13:27 (six years ago) Permalink

Anyone heard the Altered Natives? Sounds intriguing but heard little discussion about it.

sam500, Friday, 3 December 2010 13:38 (six years ago) Permalink

the altered natives album is vg. more top 30 of the year than top 10 for me, but it's def strong and worth checking out. love the more acidy moments like "rage of aquarius".

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Friday, 3 December 2010 13:50 (six years ago) Permalink

I'll be listening to the 14 or so albums of the FACT top 20 I haven't heard yet, will report back this weekend.

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 3 December 2010 13:59 (six years ago) Permalink

Listening to the Solar Bears album at the mo. Kind of warmed over cosmic/ balearic record, perfectly pleasant, nothing amazing though.

The DJ ROC record, on the other hand, is fantastic. My first thought was DJ Assault, slowed down, which probably shows how little I know about this stuff (disclosure: I am British)

Neil S, Friday, 3 December 2010 14:03 (six years ago) Permalink

nah that makes total sense tbh. if you like it, i urge you soooo much to check out dj nate's da trak genious.

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Friday, 3 December 2010 14:10 (six years ago) Permalink

cheers, will look that one up- and I see it's on Spotify...

Neil S, Friday, 3 December 2010 14:11 (six years ago) Permalink

my favs on it are "poetry", "call me when you're sober" and "hatas our motivation"...there's a thread on it around here somewhere too

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Friday, 3 December 2010 14:20 (six years ago) Permalink

looooool @ Drake at #7 on FACT list, fuck outta here

will rep for oneohtrix, emeralds, darkstar (album's not as bad as yall are making it out to be)

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Friday, 3 December 2010 14:38 (six years ago) Permalink

re: altered natives, i also love his last.fm bio: http://www.last.fm/music/Altered+Natives

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Friday, 3 December 2010 14:40 (six years ago) Permalink

never heard of forest swords til now, but the song FACT included is waaaaaayy up my alley -- A+

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Friday, 3 December 2010 14:43 (six years ago) Permalink

That's probably the best song on the album, but the others are good too.

seandalai, Friday, 3 December 2010 14:45 (six years ago) Permalink

Really like the first of this year's Altered Natives albums (Tenement Yard Vol 1); haven't heard the second one (Serial Vendetta) yet. There's a marked stylistic between the two, right?

mike t-diva, Friday, 3 December 2010 15:16 (six years ago) Permalink

"marked stylistic difference", bah...

mike t-diva, Friday, 3 December 2010 15:17 (six years ago) Permalink

Before you come barking at me I mean the albums that few if any other lists have mentioned and which sound awful from what I've heard so far: DYLAN ETTINGER, DJ RASHAD, FRANK (JUST FRANK), DJ ROC, SOLAR BEARS, AUTRE NE VEUT.

haha i really like the autre ne veut disc.

also: the darkstar was very disappointing. p4k listed it as "grime/dubstep album of the year," which was sort of bewildering.

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 3 December 2010 16:09 (six years ago) Permalink

the absence and/or relative low-placing of vampire weekend on a lot of these lists is making me think they might be better than i think they are.

a tenth level which features a single castle (tipsy mothra), Friday, 3 December 2010 16:36 (six years ago) Permalink

Kind of surprised by the almost total absence of Hot Chip as well, even on British lists.

Matt DC, Friday, 3 December 2010 16:49 (six years ago) Permalink

Vampire Weekend and Hot Chip were both in my top 10 when I was asked to vote - I placed them feeling slightly embarrassed that I liked such obvious consensus albums so much so I'm quite relieved they've been relatively snubbed TBH

The baby boomers have defined everything once and for all (Dorianlynskey), Friday, 3 December 2010 16:52 (six years ago) Permalink

I've been re-listening to a ton of stuff while compiling my end of year mix, and the Vampire Weekend still sounds fresh. Maybe partly because I hadn't heard it in 8 months, but am enjoying it even more than the first run. Hot Chip also to a lesser extent.

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 3 December 2010 16:57 (six years ago) Permalink

I like the Forest Swords guy's take on blues in that featured track, but Sun Araw does it better I think

Dan S, Friday, 3 December 2010 17:02 (six years ago) Permalink

Darkstar I guess is more album-oriented than uk funky, r'n'b or dancehall for many

curmudgeon, Friday, 3 December 2010 20:30 (six years ago) Permalink

lol @ fact posting the youtube link to the "shut it down" demo that is much better than the one that made it onto the album

gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:44 (six years ago) Permalink

US hip-hop, R’n'B and indie alike decided this was the year to pay tribute to Houston’s chopped and screwed legacy, but few did it as subtly and satisfyingly as Drake.

suggest ban

gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:45 (six years ago) Permalink

i'll buy that drake's album is chillwave before i buy that it's a tribute to screw

gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:45 (six years ago) Permalink

a tribute to screw

ha. this sounds elegant and vulgar at the same time

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 3 December 2010 20:47 (six years ago) Permalink

also they posted an audio link to the 34 min version of "runaway"

gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Friday, 3 December 2010 20:50 (six years ago) Permalink

I've never heard of, let alone heard, that Forest Swords album at #1. Any good?

Definitely, thought #1 is a bit OTT.

Tim F, Friday, 3 December 2010 22:14 (six years ago) Permalink

Thought there would be more love for the ceo, Radio Dept, Trentemoller, Pantha Du Prince, The-Dream and of course LINDSTROM & CHRISTABELLE albums across these lists. Still, at least that horrible Aeroplane LP has been mostly ignored.

o0o00h really? (boxedjoy), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:20 (six years ago) Permalink

Oh, Holly Miranda too, I thought that would have been more popular.

o0o00h really? (boxedjoy), Friday, 3 December 2010 22:24 (six years ago) Permalink

fact placing drake at #7 doesn't even make gd sense

The Reverend, Friday, 3 December 2010 23:31 (six years ago) Permalink

Lindstrom + Christabelle is 2009, isn't it?

seandalai, Saturday, 4 December 2010 00:51 (six years ago) Permalink

x-post -in the non-ILX world Drake sold lots of music and received some pretty good reviews

curmudgeon, Saturday, 4 December 2010 05:33 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah, but it doesn't make sense as something fact would sop to? like it's tangential to their aesthetic at best and not as hard to ignore (or as good) as kanye

The Reverend, Saturday, 4 December 2010 06:04 (six years ago) Permalink

fact magazine is like pretty far from the real world

gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 4 December 2010 06:05 (six years ago) Permalink

haha yeah, that bastion of populism fact magazine

The Reverend, Saturday, 4 December 2010 06:07 (six years ago) Permalink

I'm eager to see where the Forest Swords album (top 3 for me) will end up in the Wire rewind list. Remembering that it was reviewed along with the Rangers record which got all the praise (and 3/4 of the lines)

maarten, Saturday, 4 December 2010 11:26 (six years ago) Permalink

Critic Banning Eyre of Afropop.org's list

http://blog.afropop.org/2010/12/afropops-2010-stocking-stuffers.html

I had not heard of this desert bluesy rockin' band before-Tamikrest - Adagh (Glitterhouse)

curmudgeon, Saturday, 4 December 2010 13:39 (six years ago) Permalink

Afropop.org top Latin and Brazilian new and reissues

http://blog.afropop.org/2010/12/top-latin-records-and-best-compilations.html

Calle 13, Luisa Maita, Afro-Sound of Colombia, Roots of Chicha 2 and more

curmudgeon, Saturday, 4 December 2010 14:11 (six years ago) Permalink

xpost Lindstrom & Christabelle released Jan 2010, but floating around for so long before that that it feels like an autumn 2009 record. Was in my Top 10 for this year.

ithappens, Saturday, 4 December 2010 16:58 (six years ago) Permalink

Rock-A-Rolla Top 40 Albums Of 2010

40. Hey Colossus & The Van Halen Time Capsule - Eurogrumble vol 1
39. Black Sun - Twilight Of The Gods
38. Zs - Social Slaves
37. Envy - Recitation
36. Salome - Terminal
35. Barn Owl - Ancestral Star
34. The Body - All The Waters Of The Earth Turn To Blood
33. Yakuza - Of Seismic Consequence
32. Wino - Adrift
31. Unearthly Trance - V
30. Ultralyd - Inertiadrome
29. Black Breath - Heavy Breathing
28. The High Confessions - Turning Lead...
27. Knut - Wonder
26. White Hills - White Hills
25. Three Mile Pilot - The Inevitable Past...
24. The Red Sparowes - The Fear Is Excruciating
23. Emeralds - Does It Look Like I'm Here?
22. Black Tusk - Taste The Sin
21. Daughters - S/T
20. Arabrot - Revenge
19. Shining - Blackjazz
18. Torche - Songs For Singles
17. Twilight - Monument To Time End
16. Killing Joke - Absolute Dissent
15. High On Fire - Snakes For The Divine
14. Celeste - Morte(s) Nee(s)
13. Grinderman - Grinderman 2
12. Iron Maiden - The Final Frontier
11. Liars - Sisterworld
10. Oneohtrix Point Never - Returnal
9. Ufomammut - Eve
8. Kayo Dot - Coyote
7. Motorpsycho - Heavy Metal Fruit
6. U.S. Christmas - Run Thick In The Night
5. Master Musicians Of Bukkake - Totem Two
4. Mike Patton - Mondo Cake
3. Harvey Milk - A Small Turn Of Human Kindness
2. Melvins - The Bride Screamed Murder
1. Swans - My Father Will Guide Me Up A Rope

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 4 December 2010 18:14 (six years ago) Permalink

And you're expecting to be blown away, to have your whole perspective on 2010 altered, by exactly...what?...in the next four weeks?

Currently being blown away by Rashed Al Majed – Jalsat Wanasa 2010. I think this may move Daddy Yankee a step down for me.

You desert blues type will appreciate the. . . I think it's electric oud, not sure, in some of this. Not really so far off from all that Tuareg stuff, except more Arab sounding, which of course makes sense considering it is Arab. It's Khaleeji.

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 4 December 2010 19:57 (six years ago) Permalink

Okay maybe it's not going to turn my list upside down, but it's still pretty good and will find a place there.

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 4 December 2010 20:36 (six years ago) Permalink

Hey Colossus & The Van Halen Time Capsule

should top every list based on the name alone, tho i'm offended by the idea that van-halen belongs in a time capsule.

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 4 December 2010 21:14 (six years ago) Permalink

The Lindstrom & Christabelle was available as a limited edition 3CD set (including Little Drummer Boy) from Rough Trade from November 2009 - which is when I bought my copy - but it wasn't available elsewhere until January 2010.

mike t-diva, Sunday, 5 December 2010 00:38 (six years ago) Permalink

Algerian Goalkeeper, you rule. Got 7 more albums to chew on tomorrow, will be a nice break from all the house/techno/dubstep electronic stuff from the Fact list. Glad to see Ufomammut finally show up on a list, FFS.

Fastnbulbous, Sunday, 5 December 2010 05:03 (six years ago) Permalink

No worries. My copy arrived on friday.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 5 December 2010 14:27 (six years ago) Permalink

I oughta pay attention to Rock-A-Rolla, huh

still haven't heard that goddamn Kayo Dot album

Cap.Obv (acoleuthic), Sunday, 5 December 2010 14:31 (six years ago) Permalink

The Swans album is good...although I tend to prefer my Swans/Angels of Light pretty rather than punishing, and this new one maybe veers towards the less melodic.

Davek (davek_00), Sunday, 5 December 2010 14:39 (six years ago) Permalink

So Pitchfork aside, are there any 'big' magazines still to declare?

groovypanda, Sunday, 5 December 2010 15:00 (six years ago) Permalink

Terrorizer, Kerrang.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 5 December 2010 15:14 (six years ago) Permalink

lots, i think, at least among online magazines (like p4k), e.g., popmatters, dusted, resident advisor. most lists start coming out this week, i imagine.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 5 December 2010 15:18 (six years ago) Permalink

AMG too.

President Keyes, Sunday, 5 December 2010 15:40 (six years ago) Permalink

is The Wire out yet?

sofatruck, Sunday, 5 December 2010 16:10 (six years ago) Permalink

Don't think so, my copy hasn't arrived anyway.

seandalai, Sunday, 5 December 2010 20:43 (six years ago) Permalink

Here's a list of lists that I find interesting, and the date they came out last year. Not necessarily all that similar to my own tastes, but are unique enough that they always have some must-hear entries I missed earlier in the year. Anyone got the Rock-A-Rolla list?

Quietus, Dec 8
FACT, Dec 11
The Wire, Dec 14
Brainwashed, Jan 4
Silent Ballet, Dec 25
Rock-A-Rolla, Nov 25
Decibel, Nov 25

Terrorizer, Dec 31
Treblezine, Dec 14
Cokemachineglow, Dec 22
Resident Advisor, Dec 17
Artrocker, Dec 3

Still a good number of lists to look forward to. Just listened to or revisited a dozen albums from the Rock-A-Rolla list. The big one for me is Motorpsycho - Heavy Metal Fruit. Love it! Årabrot - Revenge was also one that might make my top 50. The Melvins album has three great tracks, but is way too inconsistent to place that high for me. Have never been able to get into Harvey Milk. Mike Patton's album was an interesting find. I guess his wife is Italian, and this is live performances from Europe, sung mostly in Italian, chopped and edited. Master Musicians of Bukkake is good, Kayo Dot impressive as a whole but hard to pick any standout moment, and Shining is a pretty hardcore avant jazz trip that is tough going beyond small doses. U.S. Christmas has good moments, but also causes fatigue after more than a few cuts. Just can't get in the mood to listen to Celeste at all. Love that they put Iron Maiden up there, even though I like Slough Feg, The Sword, Sahg and Grand Magus more.

Interesting crossover between that list and FACT - Oneohtrix Point Never. I got on board with them last year, but was late in getting the new one. Forrest Swords is the one album that I liked enough to possibly crack my top 50, possibly. Digital Mystikz is good but not necessarily in one sitting. Altered Natives, Solar Bears, Guido, Emeralds, Actress, JJ are all impressive in different ways, but just not my thing enough to make my top 100.

Fastnbulbous, Sunday, 5 December 2010 21:06 (six years ago) Permalink

Meant to cross out FACT, not Quietus, which is out tomorrow.

Fastnbulbous, Sunday, 5 December 2010 21:07 (six years ago) Permalink

fact's list is a collection of albums maybe worth checking out placed in random order, as per usual, yet is still the best list so far

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Monday, 6 December 2010 00:37 (six years ago) Permalink

The Quietus Albums Of 2010
http://thequietus.com/articles/05391-quietus-albums-of-the-year-2010

1. Liars - Sisterworld
2. Salem - King Night
3. Swans - My Father Will Guide Me Up A Rope To The Sky
4. These New Puritans - Hidden
5. The Fall - Your Future Our Clutter
6. Walls - Walls
7. Lindstrom and Christabelle - Real Life Is No Cool
8. Teeth Of The Sea - Your Mercury
9. New Young Pony Club - The Optimist
10. UFOmammut - Eve
11. Gayngs - Relayted
12. Electric Wizard - Black Masses
13. Cathedral - The Guessing Game
14. Besnard Lakes - Are The Roaring Night
15. Grinderman - Grinderman II
16. Zola Jesus - Stridulum II
17. The Body - And All The Waters Of The Earth Shall Turn To Blood
18. Pan Sonic - Gravitoni
19. Janelle Monae - The Archandroid
20. Big Boi - Sir Lucious Leftfoot: Son Of Chico Dusty
21. Anika - Anika
22. FM Einheit - No Apologies
23. Barn Owl - Ancestral Star
24. Oneohtrix Point Never - Returnal
25. Shining - Blackjazz
26. Flying Lotus - Cosmogramma
27. I Like Trains - He Who Saw The Deep
28. Shit Robot - From The Cradle To The Rave
29. High On Fire - Snakes For The Divine
30. Lonelady - Nerve Up
31. Jane Weaver - The Fallen By Watchbird
32. Pantha Du Prince - Black Noise
33. Napoleon III - Christiana
34. Gil Scott-Heron - I’m New Here
35. Arabrot - Revenge
36. Ali Farka Touré and Toumani Diabaté - Ali and Toumani
37. Arcade Fire - The Suburbs
38. Demdike Stare - Symbiosis
39. Mulatu Astatke - Mulatu Steps Ahead
40. White Hills - White Hills/White Hills Drop Out With GNOD/Stolen Stars Left For No-one

O Permaban (NickB), Monday, 6 December 2010 10:47 (six years ago) Permalink

I can't take seriously any list with Salem in their top 20 (especially their #2), because it becomes abundantly clear to me that the listmakers actually hate everything about music.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 6 December 2010 10:51 (six years ago) Permalink

I'm more interested in FACT's tracks list than its albums list - when does that start?

Matt DC, Monday, 6 December 2010 13:01 (six years ago) Permalink

I can't take any list with Kanye anywhere near it (srs Gareth Campesinos? and there was me on the kanye thread saying that kanye going to lc! instead of bon ivor would have made it like a billion times better) seriously. Salem are at least intresting with their rapey gaze.

purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Monday, 6 December 2010 13:19 (six years ago) Permalink

If wonder if the headlong rush to overpraise the Kanye record is out of a desperate desire for honest-to-god POP STARS. There's a real dearth of acts with actual presence here. 2009-10 critical consensus is a triumph of facelessness really. What do Salem look like? Who cares? Does anyone look at The National or The Arcade Fire onstage and think "OMG rock icons"? You look at these lists and you start to realise why the NME et al were so desperate for The Stroke and the White Strips to come along a decade ago. Say whatever about Janelle Monae or Nicki Minaj or whoever but at least they're trying.

Matt DC, Monday, 6 December 2010 13:35 (six years ago) Permalink

As far as the rock music press goes this moment actually feels a bit like this time 10 years ago, for the above reasons.

Tim F, Monday, 6 December 2010 13:37 (six years ago) Permalink

If wonder if the headlong rush to overpraise the Kanye record is out of a desperate desire for honest-to-god POP STARS

i kind of feel like this whenever i read another 5000-word tumblr screed on why ke$ha is so important, too

i mean look at the goddamn pop charts, that's all the explanation you need for this state of affairs

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Monday, 6 December 2010 13:38 (six years ago) Permalink

Pop stars includes ROCK STARS as well. Enough fucking Brooklynites in cardigans, Jesus.

Matt DC, Monday, 6 December 2010 13:40 (six years ago) Permalink

that reminds me that i really need to buy some new sweaters.

scott seward, Monday, 6 December 2010 13:53 (six years ago) Permalink

Drowned in Sound's Favourite Albums of 2010

1) Emeralds Does It Look Like I’m Here?
2) The National High Violet
3) Deftones Diamond Eyes
4) Perfume Genius Learning
5) The Knife Tomorrow, In a Year
6) These New Puritans Hidden
7) Shearwater The Golden Archipelago
8) Yeasayer Odd Blood
9) LCD Soundsystem This Is Happening
10) Sufjan Stevens Age of Adz
11) Arcade Fire The Suburbs (Review)
12) Big Boi Sir Lucious Left Foot... The Son of Chico Dusty (Review)
13) Weezer Hurley (Review)
14) Rufus Wainwright All Days Are Nights: Songs for Lulu (Review)
15) Pantha du Prince Black Noise (Review)
16) Kanye West My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy (Review)
17) Mount Kimbie Crooks & Lovers (Review)
18) Crystal Castles Crystal Castles II (Review)
19) Caribou Swim (Review)
20) Kelis Flesh Tone (Review)
21) Flying Lotus Cosmogramma (Review)
22) The Besnard Lakes ...Are the Roaring Night (Review)
23) Oneohtrix Point Never Returnal (Review)
24) Villagers Becoming the Jackal (Review)
25) Blood Red Shoes Fire Like This (Review)
26) The Phantom Band The Wants (Review)
27) Errors Come Down With Me (Review)
28) White Hinterland Kairos (Review)
29) Max Richter Infra (Review)
30) Deerhunter Halcyon Digest (Review)
31) Erykah Badu New Amerykah Part Two: Return of the Ankh (Review)
32) Los Campesinos! Romance is Boring (Review)
33) Foals Total Life Forever (Review)
34) Joanna Newsom Have One on Me (Review)
35) Uffie Sex Dreams and Denim Jeans (Review) / Interview)
36) Richard Skelton Landings (Review)
37) Marnie Stern Marnie Stern (Review)
38) 65DaysofStatic We Were Exploding Anyway (Review)
39) Gold Panda Lucky Shiner (Review)
40) Sleigh Bells Treats (Review)
41) Ariel Pink’s Haunted Graffitti Before Today (Review)
42) Janelle Monae The ArchAndroid (Review)
43) Liars Sisterworld (Review)
44) Forest Swords Dagger Paths (Review)
45) Broken Bells Broken Bells (Review) / Interview)
46) Gil Scott-Heron I’m New Here (Review)
47) Four Tet There Is Love in You (Review)
48) Ikonika Contact, Love, Want, Have (Review)
49) No Age Everything In Between (Review)
50) Trent Reznor & Atticus Ross The Social Network (Interview)
51) Bryan Ferry Olympia (Review)
52) Laura Marling I Speak Because I Can (Review)
53) Wild Nothing Gemini (Interview)
54) Gonjasufi A Sufi and a Killer (Review)
55) The Walkmen Lisbon (Review)
56) Matthew Dear Black City (Review)
57) Darkstar North (Review / Interview)
58) Daft Punk Tron: Legacy (Review)
59) Gorillaz Plastic Beach (Review)
60) Robyn Body Talk 1-3 (Reviews)
61) Women Public Strain (Review)
62) The Roots How I Got Over (Review)
63) Brian Eno Small Craft on a Milk Sea (Review
64) Frightened Rabbit The Winter of Mixed Drinks (Review)
65) Darren Hayman Essex Arms (Review)
66) of Montreal False Priest (Review)
67) Jonsi Go (Review / Interview)
68) Sky Larkin Kaleide (Review)
69) Belle and Sebastian Write About Love (Review)
70) Surfer Blood Astro Coast (Review to Follow)
71) Everything Everything Man Alive (Review)
72) Twin Shadow Forget (Review)
73) Interpol Interpol (Review)
74) Beach House Teen Dream (Review)
75) Rolo Tomassi Cosmology (Review)

Fastnbulbous, Monday, 6 December 2010 13:56 (six years ago) Permalink

As far as the rock music press goes this moment actually feels a bit like this time 10 years ago, for the above reasons.

the past couple of years for me have been a slow, grim realisation that the rock press, and the history of criticism, and the music that gets canonised, will never get any better

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Monday, 6 December 2010 13:58 (six years ago) Permalink

Holy shit at Deftones at number three. Is this one of those "not for this album, but because they need some general respect right about now" placements? Because the new one is good, but they've done far more interesting things in the past that have been completely ignored.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 6 December 2010 14:05 (six years ago) Permalink

And aside from the album charts, look at the top grossing concerts - Bon Jovi, James Taylor, Taylor Swift, George Strait, Eminem, Jay-Z, Black Eyed Peas, John Mayer, Nickelback, Michael Buble, Elton John, Eric Clapton, etc. Swift will show up in the upcoming more mainstream lists, but otherwise not much crossover between these worlds. Mostly same as it ever was.

Isn't it pointless to dismiss entire lists based on one album you don't like?

Glad to see Ufomammut again on Quietus. Will finally get around to hearing Walls, Teeth Of The Sea, Perfume Genius. Deftones, wow, forgot about them.

Fastnbulbous, Monday, 6 December 2010 14:12 (six years ago) Permalink

I need to hear that UFOmammut.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 6 December 2010 14:14 (six years ago) Permalink

love the bookends to that section particularly - r1 ryders really impress me, and obv cassie is #cassiefanclub

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Monday, 6 December 2010 16:23 (six years ago) Permalink

so the kanye, big boi and roots were the only rap records of the year. good to know.

purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Monday, 6 December 2010 16:27 (six years ago) Permalink

they were the only ones people in the white music industry cared about, yes

not sure why this is unexpected or shocking

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Monday, 6 December 2010 16:28 (six years ago) Permalink

I have heard about 3 of those 20 FACT tracks. So much for my illusions of "knowing about stuff".

seandalai, Monday, 6 December 2010 16:30 (six years ago) Permalink

I'd say that Wut is pretty much a lock to win that Fact poll but it's about the journey innit.

Matt DC, Monday, 6 December 2010 16:31 (six years ago) Permalink

FACT reliably makes me feel like I've spent the whole year missing stuff.

The baby boomers have defined everything once and for all (Dorianlynskey), Monday, 6 December 2010 16:32 (six years ago) Permalink

^I am pretty intrigued by this, the sample on the link isn't rly long enough to tell you much but it has the kind of shit artwork that makes you think it'll be great

smoking on his cigarette / listening to a Carcass set (DJ Mencap), Monday, 6 December 2010 16:37 (six years ago) Permalink

92: JAMES PANTS
‘I LIVE INSIDE AN EGG’
(STONES THROW)

How did you possibly miss this one?

Matt DC, Monday, 6 December 2010 16:38 (six years ago) Permalink

Mencap - the entire EP is storming, well worth checking out.

Matt DC, Monday, 6 December 2010 16:39 (six years ago) Permalink

is it really? every sample i heard this year sounded pretty shit.

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Monday, 6 December 2010 16:40 (six years ago) Permalink

glad FACT continues its reign of making more british / more dance versions of the same lists everyone else does.

hey guys!! that big boi album isnt all that

lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Monday, 6 December 2010 16:56 (six years ago) Permalink

they were the only ones people in the white music industry cared about, yes

not sure why this is unexpected or shocking DJP

Please post the lists from the non-white industry

curmudgeon, Monday, 6 December 2010 16:57 (six years ago) Permalink

is it really? every sample i heard this year sounded pretty shit

Depends what you're looking for, they're straight-up functional bangers by and large, so they're not really going to sound their best on a streamed sample. House Girls 6 is better than House Girls 1 though, takes the metallic clanks from Dennis Ferrer's Hey Hey and just clatters away all over the top.

Matt DC, Monday, 6 December 2010 17:00 (six years ago) Permalink

deej, exactly how many different records do they have to feature before they stop being a version of everyone else's list?

And please someone, recommend some great neglected 2010 hip hop albums instead of complaining about their absence.

The baby boomers have defined everything once and for all (Dorianlynskey), Monday, 6 December 2010 17:05 (six years ago) Permalink

Spin's Top 40 albums of 2010 (don't think anybody's posted this yet); I'll let somebody else do the scrolling and listing:

http://www.spin.com/gallery/40-best-albums-2010

xhuxk, Monday, 6 December 2010 17:07 (six years ago) Permalink

swag cru -- POX year end song recommendations

also

WAKA
Curren$y
Lil B's various tapes
OFGWKTA
Starlito
Yelawolf

purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Monday, 6 December 2010 17:08 (six years ago) Permalink

great neglected hip-hop albums: waka flocka flame, yelawolf (mixtape and album), the jacka & laroo, rah digga, gucci mane's jewelry selection mixtape. i think the big boi is more than worthy of a place on these lists, though i wouldn't rank it that highly - it grew off me quite a lot, though "shutterbugg" is still one of the singles of the year.

Depends what you're looking for, they're straight-up functional bangers by and large, so they're not really going to sound their best on a streamed sample. House Girls 6 is better than House Girls 1 though, takes the metallic clanks from Dennis Ferrer's Hey Hey and just clatters away all over the top.

the clip i heard of house girls 6 was even worse, just an over-cluttered mess that made me want to listen to "hey hey" instead.

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Monday, 6 December 2010 17:09 (six years ago) Permalink

oh yeah that digga is doooooope. didnt really care for any of gucci's 2010 tapes but i didnt give them enough time.

purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Monday, 6 December 2010 17:10 (six years ago) Permalink

i gave both curren$y albums a listen and they were ok enough but didn't really grab me. i love the idea of lil b and in the right mood can totally vibe to his music, but i get bored after a medium-sized dose of him.

what's the deal with the odd future wolf gang thing? i can't bring myself to click on any thread with so many answers.

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Monday, 6 December 2010 17:11 (six years ago) Permalink

dope teenage crew from the westcoast = 200 new answers. dope teenage crew who also have rape jokes in some of their lyrics = a million new answers. best place to start lex is the mellow hype record lex, i think you'll really enjoy it.

purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Monday, 6 December 2010 17:13 (six years ago) Permalink

jewelry selection is a terrific mixtape, esp its second half, but i've kind of given up on gucci mane ever getting it together to fulfil his potential on a proper album, and i basically can't be bothered to particularly rep for artists whose careers are basically just them dribbling on to the internet without any sort of editorial process and leaving their fans to actually curate their shit into some sort of sense

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Monday, 6 December 2010 17:15 (six years ago) Permalink

Are there any 2010 dancehall or roots reggae albums that have gotten any attention? Will its more high-profile crossover status from some years back ever return?

curmudgeon, Monday, 6 December 2010 17:16 (six years ago) Permalink

Stay tuned.

bourgeoistech bourgeoisthèque (_Rudipherous_), Monday, 6 December 2010 17:17 (six years ago) Permalink

lol @ Spin putting Teenage Fanclub at #40

never change, you crazy guys

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Monday, 6 December 2010 17:18 (six years ago) Permalink

busy signal's d.o.b. is a terrific dancehall album - several songs that were quite old to me but if you haven't been following him i def recommend it

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Monday, 6 December 2010 17:18 (six years ago) Permalink

Does Gyptian count? That album has popped up in a few lists.

the clip i heard of house girls 6 was even worse, just an over-cluttered mess that made me want to listen to "hey hey" instead.

By all means pass this judgement but listen to the record first!

Matt DC, Monday, 6 December 2010 17:19 (six years ago) Permalink

what i've heard has not motivated me to spend £££ to listen to the record

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Monday, 6 December 2010 17:20 (six years ago) Permalink

"This minimal techno record sounded like shit based on the 30second sample I heard on Juno".

Matt DC, Monday, 6 December 2010 17:20 (six years ago) Permalink

lol @ Spin, Drake did not release the 16th best album of the year

(although thank you for not putting it in the top 10, and for leaving Eminem down in the low 30s)

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Monday, 6 December 2010 17:21 (six years ago) Permalink

i basically can't be bothered to particularly rep for artists whose careers are basically just them dribbling on to the internet without any sort of editorial process and leaving their fans to actually curate their shit into some sort of sense

to clarify i mean this w/r/t artists of a certain status - obv i'm totally happy to do this for emerging artists at the start of their career, but gucci mane should be well beyond it, and it actively pisses me off that he can't get a grip on his career.

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Monday, 6 December 2010 17:25 (six years ago) Permalink

Surprised by Teenage Fanclub placing on so many lists. One of my favourite groups ever, but this album seemed very moderate to me. A nostalgia vote from people who suspect it might be their last album?

ithappens, Monday, 6 December 2010 17:26 (six years ago) Permalink

The Spin list:

40. Teenage Fanclub - Shadows
39. Caribou - Swim
38. Eminem - Recovery
37. The Walkmen - Lisbon
36. The Gaslight Anthem - American Slang
35. Robert Plant - Band Of Joy
34. Against Me! - White Crosses
33. Ted Leo & The Pharmacists - Brutalist Bricks
32. Big K.R.I.T. - K.R.I.T. Wuz Here
31. Spoon - Transference
30. The Black Keys - Brothers
29. Sleight Bells - Treats
28. Neil Young - Le Noise
27. Glasser - Ring
26. The National - High Violet
25. Of Montreal - False Priest
24. Wavves - King Of The Beach
23. Gorillaz - Plastic Beach
22. Cee Lo Green - The Lady Killer
21. Crystal Castles - Crystal Castles
20. MGMT - Congratulations
19. No Age - Everything In Between
18. Superchunk - Majesty Shredding
17. Beach House - Teen Dream
16. Drake - Thank Me Later
15. Titus Andronicus - The Monitor
14. Best Coast - Crazy For You
13. Big Boi - Sir Lucious Left Foot The Son Of Dusty Chico
12. Yeasayer - Odd Blood
11. Vampire Weekend - Contra
10. Robyn - Body Talk Pt. 1
9. Kid Cudi - Man On The Moon II: The Legend Of Mr. Rager
8. MIA - M/\Y/\
7. Grinderman - Grinderman 2
6. Janelle Monae - The ArchAndroid
5. Jamey Johnson - The Guitar Song
4. LCD Soundsystem - This Is Happening
3. Arcade Fire - The Suburbs
2. Deerhunter - Halcyon Digest
1. Kanye West - My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy

Dan S, Monday, 6 December 2010 17:26 (six years ago) Permalink

jewelry selection is a terrific mixtape, esp its second half, but i've kind of given up on gucci mane ever getting it together to fulfil his potential on a proper album, and i basically can't be bothered to particularly rep for artists whose careers are basically just them dribbling on to the internet without any sort of editorial process and leaving their fans to actually curate their shit into some sort of sense

― lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Monday, December 6, 2010 11:15 AM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

o_O you were nicki's biggest backer //// lol rockist

lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Monday, 6 December 2010 17:27 (six years ago) Permalink

xxxp well that clarifies things slightly @ lex

lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Monday, 6 December 2010 17:28 (six years ago) Permalink

deej read my clarification - nicki is actually the perfect counterexample - and also wtf does "rockist" even mean in this context, is it 2004 again in your mind?

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Monday, 6 December 2010 17:28 (six years ago) Permalink

oh god xp

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Monday, 6 December 2010 17:28 (six years ago) Permalink

i basically can't be bothered to particularly rep for artists whose careers are basically just them dribbling on to the internet without any sort of editorial process and leaving their fans to actually curate their shit into some sort of sense to clarify i mean this w/r/t artists of a certain status - obv i'm totally happy to do this for emerging artists at the start of their career, but gucci mane should be well beyond it, and it actively pisses me off that he can't get a grip on his career.

No you were right the first time. MYSTIQUE and QUALITY CONTROL, people. I know the former has kind of gone out of the window in the Twitter age but still. Although given what happens when major label rap artists start giving up control over the editorial process maybe it's the lesser of two evils.

Also srlsy fuck Spin for coining the phrase "art-soul" and then using it about YEASAYER.

Matt DC, Monday, 6 December 2010 17:28 (six years ago) Permalink

a proper album

if only he could get it together & release a proper album like paris hilton

lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Monday, 6 December 2010 17:29 (six years ago) Permalink

No you were right the first time. MYSTIQUE and QUALITY CONTROL, people. I know the former has kind of gone out of the window in the Twitter age but still. Although given what happens when major label rap artists start giving up control over the editorial process maybe it's the lesser of two evils.

Also srlsy fuck Spin for coining the phrase "art-soul" and then using it about YEASAYER.

― Matt DC, Monday, December 6, 2010 11:28 AM (37 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

if u are arguing this you never 'got' gucci mane in the 1st place

lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Monday, 6 December 2010 17:30 (six years ago) Permalink

i could probably put together 15 gucci mane tracks from 2010 - not just off jewelry selection - that could be an album of the year contender, like top 5 of the year. why the fuck can't he do it, then? why are some of his best tracks not even on mixtapes? still?

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Monday, 6 December 2010 17:30 (six years ago) Permalink

jewelry selection is a perfectly fine album & better rap LP than the nicki record for just one example

lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Monday, 6 December 2010 17:32 (six years ago) Permalink

just reading the phrase 'proper album' has me rmde

lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Monday, 6 December 2010 17:35 (six years ago) Permalink

aw, I was just posting the Spin top 10

Spin really makes me lol; I disagree with over half their choices yet still somehow as an aggregate they manage to continue to rep 80% of my overall musical aesthetic better than anyone else

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Monday, 6 December 2010 17:36 (six years ago) Permalink

Angst Music For Sex People: The Quietus Albums Of 2010

1. Liars - Sisterworld
2. Salem - King Night
3. Swans - My Father Will Guide Me Up A Rope To The Sky
4. These New Puritans - Hidden
5. The Fall - Your Future Our Clutter
6. Walls - Walls
7. Lindstrom and Christabelle - Real Life Is No Cool
8. Teeth Of The Sea - Your Mercury
9. New Young Pony Club - The Optimist
10. UFOmammut - Eve
11. Gayngs - Relayted
12. Electric Wizard - Black Masses
13. Cathedral - The Guessing Game
14. Besnard Lakes - Are The Roaring Night
15. Grinderman - Grinderman II
16. Zola Jesus - Stridulum II
17. The Body - And All The Waters Of The Earth Shall Turn To Blood
18. Pan Sonic - Gravitoni
19. Janelle Monae - The Archandroid
20. Big Boi - Sir Lucious Leftfoot: Son Of Chico Dusty
21. Anika - Anika
22. FM Einheit - No Apologies
23. Barn Owl - Ancestral Star
24. Oneohtrix Point Never - Returnal
25. Shining - Blackjazz
26. Flying Lotus - Cosmogramma
27. I Like Trains - He Who Saw The Deep
28. Shit Robot - From The Cradle To The Rave
29. High On Fire - Snakes For The Divine
30. Lonelady - Nerve Up
31. Jane Weaver - The Fallen By Watchbird
32. Pantha Du Prince - Black Noise
33. Napoleon III - Christiana
34. Gil Scott-Heron - I’m New Here
35. Arabrot - Revenge
36. Ali Farka Touré and Toumani Diabaté - Ali and Toumani
37. Arcade Fire - The Suburbs
38. Demdike Stare - Symbiosis
39. Mulatu Astatke - Mulatu Steps Ahead

piscesx, Monday, 6 December 2010 17:37 (six years ago) Permalink

LCD are getting crazy love in this year's polls. Don't quite get it, much as i love 2 or 3 tracks on the album.

piscesx, Monday, 6 December 2010 17:37 (six years ago) Permalink

Well, I think it's in large part because of the three albums, it's the most cohesive; regardless of whether you think the individual songs work, they do ebb and flow very nicely into each other. (Personally, I think it's the best thing he's done that I've heard by leaps and bounds.)

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Monday, 6 December 2010 17:39 (six years ago) Permalink

Nice to see the Mulatu Astatke album turning up in the Quietus list, it's not world-changing but it's an enjoyable listen and deserves to be mentioned.

seandalai, Monday, 6 December 2010 17:41 (six years ago) Permalink

thanks for posting that Spin list, their website drives my up the wall.

sofatruck, Monday, 6 December 2010 17:41 (six years ago) Permalink

click… click… click (x40)

The baby boomers have defined everything once and for all (Dorianlynskey), Monday, 6 December 2010 17:46 (six years ago) Permalink

Sean from Drowned.. mentions 'a strange but apparent death of consensus' in the spiel that accompnies the DIS list and i think Reynolds' piece from last year about a lack of overall consensus between crits as the last decade progressed, and why that has happened, is even more relevant than a year ago: http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/musicblog/2009/dec/07/musically-fragmented-decade

piscesx, Monday, 6 December 2010 17:50 (six years ago) Permalink

how in the world can anyone possibly argue that there's been a death of consensus in the last two years when ALL THESE LISTS ARE BASICALLY IDENTICAL

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Monday, 6 December 2010 17:54 (six years ago) Permalink

well sure, if you view all these indie rock acts as essentially the same, the lists can be considered "basically identical". Whereas those people who, you know, like and listen to indie rock hear big differences between Deerhunter and Titus Andronicus and see lists with one or the other at the top as anything but basically identical.

skip, Monday, 6 December 2010 17:59 (six years ago) Permalink

still, it's basically the same 50-75 albums that show up over and over...it would be nice to have a little more variety

Dan S, Monday, 6 December 2010 18:01 (six years ago) Permalink

God you guys would have hated the lists back in 1968 when there was only like 50 albums to choose from anyway.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 6 December 2010 18:03 (six years ago) Permalink

Yes but you can safely assume from the words "Sean from Drownedinsound mentions..." that everything that follows is going to be overexcitable bollocks with no basis in reality.

Matt DC, Monday, 6 December 2010 18:07 (six years ago) Permalink

We’ll be listing them in groups of ten, so today it’s entries 100 to 81, on Tuesday it’s 80-61, Wednesday 60-41, Thursday 40-21, and finally 20-1 on Friday.

lol at this ^^ on the FACT tracks list; these are NOT groups of ten u idiots!

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Monday, 6 December 2010 18:25 (six years ago) Permalink

Our list doesn't have that much in common with the others. Cathedral, High On Fire, Pansonic, Mulatu Astatke, Demdike Stare, Shining, The Body, Arabrot, Jane Weaver, Napoleon III, Electric Wizard, UFOmammut, Ali Farka Toure and Toumani Diabate, I Like Trains, Barn Owl, Anika... I mean, I'm not going to start pretending I like really obscure records just to make it even more diverse than it already is.

Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Monday, 6 December 2010 18:40 (six years ago) Permalink

are you from fact? i was being kinda troll-y with that, obv, but i do believe that FACT's lists arent really that difft in terms of the values / aesthetics they favor than pfork is ... just less trad indie, less folk, more idm, more dubstep, more eurotechno

its sorta like, take a pfork list & center it around burial instead of animal collective (by switching each artist's placements)

i mean, this basically is "Fact music" so im not really criticizing this approach on its own terms, just arguing that its not nearly as refreshingly unexpected as ppl sometimes present it

lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Monday, 6 December 2010 18:53 (six years ago) Permalink

Well, yeah but I'm helpless in the face of trolls... it's my achille's heel. No, I'm from the Quietus. I like FACT's list but I'm more into industrial/ metal/ drone/ noise etc than dance music, hence the weighting on ours.

Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Monday, 6 December 2010 19:02 (six years ago) Permalink

That R1 Ryders track is banging by the way.

Matt DC, Monday, 6 December 2010 19:16 (six years ago) Permalink

I liked that Quietus list a lot, Doran. Lots of character, and lots of recommendations I'm excited to check out. Also: It takes balls ranking Salem so high. That's an album with definite merit, but an album that can be really taxing to defend.

Evan R, Monday, 6 December 2010 19:28 (six years ago) Permalink

Quite. I cringed involuntarily when I saw how high it came in. Cheers.

Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Monday, 6 December 2010 19:30 (six years ago) Permalink

Yes but you can safely assume from the words "Sean from Drownedinsound mentions..." that everything that follows is going to be overexcitable bollocks with no basis in reality.

― Matt DC, Monday, December 6, 2010 12:07 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

surprised it took 5 posts before someone made this point

gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Monday, 6 December 2010 19:32 (six years ago) Permalink

in many of these lists, salem are actually standing out in a good way - kinda feel sorry for anyone who thinks they're worse than the national. arcade fire, sleigh bells, gayngs etc etc

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Monday, 6 December 2010 19:32 (six years ago) Permalink

well sure, if you view all these indie rock acts as essentially the same, the lists can be considered "basically identical". Whereas those people who, you know, like and listen to indie rock hear big differences between Deerhunter and Titus Andronicus and see lists with one or the other at the top as anything but basically identical.

― skip, Monday, December 6, 2010 11:59 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

this post is hilarious

gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Monday, 6 December 2010 19:32 (six years ago) Permalink

I'm not really into either of those bands but even from cursory listens it's pretty easy to see they sound absolutely nothing like each other.

Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Monday, 6 December 2010 19:36 (six years ago) Permalink

I am completely comfortable in saying that if you like Salem more than Sleigh Bells, you are probably a racist.

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Monday, 6 December 2010 19:40 (six years ago) Permalink

i realize deerhunter & titus andronicus are different bands, but if they show up 10-1 on one list and 1-10 on another, there's a REALLY good chance that those are gonna be similar ass lists

gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Monday, 6 December 2010 19:41 (six years ago) Permalink

the thing about the SPIN gallery is not the 40 click thrus (tons of websites do this & it's probably gonna be the least of crimes as we move forward) but that their site is slow as shit -- the combination is intolerable

gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Monday, 6 December 2010 19:43 (six years ago) Permalink

^^^ otm

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Monday, 6 December 2010 19:43 (six years ago) Permalink

The New York Times was so courageous in covering Salem, and making it safe for blogs to put them in their top 10s.

curmudgeon, Monday, 6 December 2010 19:51 (six years ago) Permalink

what i've heard has not motivated me to spend £££ to listen to the record

Haha, I actually sent "House Girls 6" in full to some people Lex but left you off because you said you hated it...

In my top 3 tracks of the year dudes, if that means anything.

Tim F, Monday, 6 December 2010 20:10 (six years ago) Permalink

Are there any actual standout tracks on that Teenage Fanclub album? Is it worth checking out?

billstevejim, Monday, 6 December 2010 20:10 (six years ago) Permalink

"Power," the most exhilarating, witty, and necessarily bombastic track of his career

gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Monday, 6 December 2010 20:37 (six years ago) Permalink

not really billsteve...but still worth checking out/finding a stream.

skip, Monday, 6 December 2010 20:41 (six years ago) Permalink

"house girls 6" cost me 69p and it was definitely worth it

just sayin, Monday, 6 December 2010 21:51 (six years ago) Permalink

Yeah House Girls 6 is great, I don't get how anyone could rep for Hey Hey and the Ayobaness comp and not like it.

Matt DC, Monday, 6 December 2010 21:58 (six years ago) Permalink

I'm liking this Solar Bears album as well - brightly coloured cartoon beach music. Also a bit like Boards of Canada picked the whole Robygiv vibe and built from there.

Matt DC, Monday, 6 December 2010 22:00 (six years ago) Permalink

the Quietus 2010 list contains one actual hip-hop album (Big Boi) and two others tangentially related to hip-hop (Janelle, Flying Lotus), yet places an album that offensively steal most of its ideas from hip-hop at #2 (Salem). who would truly prefer white guys making light of black music and culture to actual hip-hop? i like the rest of the list, but Salem at #2 is just embarrassing

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Monday, 6 December 2010 22:02 (six years ago) Permalink

wow, a direct truthbomb from ilxor

gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Monday, 6 December 2010 22:03 (six years ago) Permalink

who'da thunk it? ;)

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Monday, 6 December 2010 22:05 (six years ago) Permalink

it's a shame that neil kulkarni's work didn't do enough to get joell ortiz on the list

gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Monday, 6 December 2010 22:07 (six years ago) Permalink

32. Pantha Du Prince - Black Noise

keep forgetting this album exists

it's rly good

Cap.Obv (acoleuthic), Monday, 6 December 2010 22:10 (six years ago) Permalink

who would truly prefer white guys making light of black music and culture to actual hip-hop?

history of rock music crit to thread.

Tim F, Monday, 6 December 2010 22:12 (six years ago) Permalink

"who would truly prefer white guys making light of black music and culture to actual hip-hop?"

people who don't listen to hip-hop.

scott seward, Monday, 6 December 2010 22:13 (six years ago) Permalink

i liked the salem album a bunch, but i can't think of any list i would put it on. maybe my "records i like that other people find offensive or horrifying or dreadful" list. or my "poseur doofuses that i have loved" list.

scott seward, Monday, 6 December 2010 22:16 (six years ago) Permalink

wld rather read scott's poseur doofus poll than all the other polls on this thread

Ward Fowler, Monday, 6 December 2010 22:18 (six years ago) Permalink

^^

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Monday, 6 December 2010 22:27 (six years ago) Permalink

So, what you're saying is, I should pretend to like hip hop stuff at random and lie about it so as not to appear racist to some lunatic on the internet?

"who would truly prefer white guys making light of black music and culture to actual hip-hop?"

This is pure tautology. Unless of course Mulatu Astatke, Ali Farka Toure, Toumani Diabate, Gil Scott Heron, Janelle Monae, Ty Bulmer and P.O.S. are all white guys.

Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Monday, 6 December 2010 22:28 (six years ago) Permalink

Or let me put it this way: if you think black history and culture is interchangeable with hip hop, then it's you who is racist.

Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Monday, 6 December 2010 22:30 (six years ago) Permalink

I am kind of disappointed that everyone ignored my blatant trolling, tbh

clearly I'm slipping

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Monday, 6 December 2010 22:34 (six years ago) Permalink

We should tell people who haven't been following ILM this year to just keep up with this thread. It's turning into a redux of every argument that people have had this year.

Matt DC, Monday, 6 December 2010 22:35 (six years ago) Permalink

I don't think we ever successfully jammed together the "Janelle Monae tries too hard, what a joke" argument with the "I like this 'Pretty Girl Bag' song" argument; I'd be game for running those together.

Yeezy reupholstered my pussy (DJP), Monday, 6 December 2010 22:37 (six years ago) Permalink

^^^ Best mashup since the Girl Talk album amirite?

Matt DC, Monday, 6 December 2010 22:40 (six years ago) Permalink

you're overanalyzing a bit here

So, what you're saying is, I should pretend to like hip hop stuff at random and lie about it so as not to appear racist to some lunatic on the internet?

i didnt say you should pretend to like more hip-hop -- only that salem at #2 was kinda lame (considering it draws a good deal from, to generalize, southern hip-hop from the last decade or so). anyway, i'm glad your tastes and those of your staff are fully and accurately represented. like i said, i think it's a great list, salem aside

This is pure tautology. Unless of course Mulatu Astatke, Ali Farka Toure, Toumani Diabate, Gil Scott Heron, Janelle Monae, Ty Bulmer and P.O.S. are all white guys.

thank you, i realize that there are additional black musicians on your list -- that wasn't my point

Or let me put it this way: if you think black history and culture is interchangeable with hip hop, then it's you who is racist.

never said black history and culture were interchangeable with hip-hop, that's funny though!

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Monday, 6 December 2010 22:44 (six years ago) Permalink

anyway... i'm closing the can o' worms now

i like the quietus list!

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Monday, 6 December 2010 22:45 (six years ago) Permalink

quietus list once again has most of my favourites on it

Cap.Obv (acoleuthic), Monday, 6 December 2010 22:46 (six years ago) Permalink

how about the rock-a-rolla list?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 6 December 2010 22:49 (six years ago) Permalink

http://www.largeheartedboy.com/blog/archive/2010/11/2010_yearend_on.html

http://i54.tinypic.com/2vt2utg.gif (markers), Sunday, November 28, 2010 12:52 AM (1 week ago)

markers, Monday, 6 December 2010 22:50 (six years ago) Permalink

Dumb end-of-day exercise. Using 7 lists (Quietus, FACT, Drowned In Sound, Rock-A-Rolla, Q, MOJO, NME, Uncut, Spin), here's artists sorted by average rating first, then by # of lists they appear in:

John Grant 3 4.666666667
Salem 3 5.333333333
The Arcade Fire 7 8.571428571
Ufomammut 2 9.5
Emeralds 3 10.66666667
Drake 2 11.5
These New Puritans 5 11.6
The Fall 3 12
The National 5 12.2
MGMT 4 13
Kanye West 4 13.25
Vampire Weekend 4 13.25
LCD Soundsystem 6 14.16666667
Grinderman 7 14.28571429
Liars 4 16
Paul Weller 4 16
Gayngs 3 16.33333333
Midlake 2 17
Oneohtrix Point Never 5 17.4
The Black Keys 4 18.5
Robert Plant 4 18.5
New Young Pony Club 2 18.5
Big Boi 5 19
Foals 4 20
Laura Marling 3 20.33333333
Neil Young 3 20.33333333
Yeasayer 6 20.5
Best Coast 2 20.5
The Drums 2 21
M.I.A. 2 21.5
Swans 4 21.75
Caribou 4 22
High On Fire 2 22
Deerhunter 5 22.4
Forest Swords 2 22.5
Avi Buffalo 3 22.66666667
The Coral 2 23
Crystal Castles 3 23.33333333
Zola Jesus 3 23.66666667
Manic Street Preachers 4 23.75
Pantha Du Prince 3 25.66666667
Spoon 2 26.5
Beach House 4 26.75
Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffitti 4 27.5
Arabrot 2 27.5
Klaxons 2 28
Janelle Monae 7 28.42857143
Hot Chip 2 29
Joanna Newsom 5 30.2
Glasser 2 31
Gil Scott-Heron 7 31.85714286
No Age 3 32.33333333
Gorillaz 6 33.16666667
Teenage Fanclub 3 33.33333333
Solar Bears 2 33.5
Flying Lotus 4 34.5
Mount Kimbie 3 37.33333333
Field Music 3 37.66666667
Edwyn Collins 3 40
Sleigh Bells 3 42
The Roots 3 43.66666667
Robyn 3 45
The Walkmen 2 46
Everything Everything 3 49.66666667

Consensus list sorted by # of lists and then average rating:

The Arcade Fire 7 8.571428571
Grinderman 7 14.28571429
Janelle Monae 7 28.42857143
Gil Scott-Heron 7 31.85714286
LCD Soundsystem 6 14.16666667
Yeasayer 6 20.5
Gorillaz 6 33.16666667
These New Puritans 5 11.6
The National 5 12.2
Oneohtrix Point Never 5 17.4
Big Boi 5 19
Deerhunter 5 22.4
Joanna Newsom 5 30.2
MGMT 4 13
Kanye West 4 13.25
Vampire Weekend 4 13.25
Liars 4 16
Paul Weller 4 16
The Black Keys 4 18.5
Robert Plant 4 18.5
Foals 4 20
Swans 4 21.75
Caribou 4 22
Manic Street Preachers 4 23.75
Beach House 4 26.75
Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffitti 4 27.5
Flying Lotus 4 34.5
John Grant 3 4.666666667
Salem 3 5.333333333
Emeralds 3 10.66666667
The Fall 3 12
Gayngs 3 16.33333333
Laura Marling 3 20.33333333
Neil Young 3 20.33333333
Avi Buffalo 3 22.66666667
Crystal Castles 3 23.33333333
Zola Jesus 3 23.66666667
Pantha Du Prince 3 25.66666667
No Age 3 32.33333333
Teenage Fanclub 3 33.33333333
Mount Kimbie 3 37.33333333
Field Music 3 37.66666667
Edwyn Collins 3 40
Sleigh Bells 3 42
The Roots 3 43.66666667
Robyn 3 45
Everything Everything 3 49.66666667
Ufomammut 2 9.5
Drake 2 11.5
Midlake 2 17
New Young Pony Club 2 18.5
Best Coast 2 20.5
The Drums 2 21
M.I.A. 2 21.5
High On Fire 2 22
Forest Swords 2 22.5
The Coral 2 23
Spoon 2 26.5
Arabrot 2 27.5
Klaxons 2 28
Hot Chip 2 29
Glasser 2 31
Solar Bears 2 33.5
The Walkmen 2 46

Fastnbulbous, Monday, 6 December 2010 23:33 (six years ago) Permalink

not that anyone should give a damn or anything but WOW i think this awful awful thread might finally cure me of the habit of reading ILX!

Babylon and zing (stevie), Monday, 6 December 2010 23:33 (six years ago) Permalink

Sorry, by rating I mean place in list. Time to go home.

Fastnbulbous, Monday, 6 December 2010 23:34 (six years ago) Permalink

Using 7 9 lists

Fastnbulbous, Monday, 6 December 2010 23:37 (six years ago) Permalink

not that anyone should give a damn or anything but WOW i think this awful awful thread might finally cure me of the habit of reading ILX!

― Babylon and zing (stevie

Since a bunch of this thread comes from other websites and periodicals, maybe you should give up on much of the internet

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 04:32 (six years ago) Permalink

wait what are we gonna do without the other "stevie"?! i'm gonna miss his great posts on.......

gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 06:32 (six years ago) Permalink

I didn't expect to see Jamie Johnson so high on Spin's list.

President Keyes, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 09:11 (six years ago) Permalink

The more I hear it, the more I fidn the Jan Monae record really fucking boring. Boy I hate me some white people.

purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 09:39 (six years ago) Permalink

Janelle Monae isn't white.

The Reverend, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 09:41 (six years ago) Permalink

not like Amadou and Miriam

The Reverend, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 09:42 (six years ago) Permalink

Lol rev.

Tim F, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 10:01 (six years ago) Permalink

NME readers are tho Rev.

purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 10:03 (six years ago) Permalink

Well, now you all know how I feel when Encoffination and Electric Wizard fail to get into XXL magazine.

Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 10:25 (six years ago) Permalink

xxl is based around 1 genre while quietus isnt?

purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 10:31 (six years ago) Permalink

Well, now you all know how I feel when Encoffination and Electric Wizard fail to get into XXL magazine.

all smh.gifs ever.

Tim F, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 10:33 (six years ago) Permalink

ha

The Reverend, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 10:34 (six years ago) Permalink

i kind of feel all of these proper EOY lists are just a way to kill time until the ilx one, which i'm sure will have many smh moments but in the main tends to be way way better than anything else. who else placed both electrik red and the-dream in last year's top 5? with taylor swift winning the trax list?

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 10:35 (six years ago) Permalink

Ha! I'd already forgotten that Taylor won the tracks list.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 10:37 (six years ago) Permalink

xpost ^^^ Yeah I feel this way. Inadvertent archival ILM review capsules are the best also.

TBH I'm always surprised that people focus so much on the lists themselves when to my mind the review capsules are the more interesting bit. Although TBH that's really "potentially". In practice they're often depressingly inadequate, esp. for the stuff i like.

Tim F, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 10:39 (six years ago) Permalink

Looking for the results thread, I realized that musically started the noms process the second week of December (the 8th to be exact). Where's she at this year?

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 10:41 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah i haven't seen her post, like, since that thread -- was wondering if you or i or both of us would have to take it over again

(i wouldn't mind but didn't want to trample on musically's thing)

gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 10:44 (six years ago) Permalink

(i wouldn't mind but didn't want to trample on musically's thing)

exactly.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 10:45 (six years ago) Permalink

she hasn't posted since june, looks like

The Reverend, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 10:51 (six years ago) Permalink

rip musically

purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 10:52 (six years ago) Permalink

I'll send her a note and see if she's cool with us doing it w/o her.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 10:52 (six years ago) Permalink

Sent.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 10:56 (six years ago) Permalink

I just stuck 16 UK and US lists in a spreadsheet.

Most selections:

Arcade Fire - The Suburbs 15
National - High Violet 12
Beach House - Teen Dream 11
LCD Soundsystem - This Is Happening 10
Yeasayer - Odd Blood 10
Caribou - Swim 9
Deerhunter - Halcyon Digest 9
Ariel Pink’s Haunted Graffiti - Before Today 9
Gil Scott-Heron - I’m New Here 9
Black Keys - Brothers 9
Vampire Weekend - Contra 9
Grinderman - Grinderman II 9
Sleigh Bells - Treats 9
These New Puritans - Hidden 8
Laura Marling - I Speak Because I Can 8
Joanna Newsom - Have One On Me 8
Janelle Monae - The Archandroid 8

and ranked on position (Amazon.co.uk all got 10.5th place.

1 Arcade Fire - The Suburbs
2 Beach House - Teen Dream
3 LCD Soundsystem - This Is Happening
4 These New Puritans - Hidden
5 Kanye West - My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
6 Caribou - Swim
7 Laura Marling - I Speak Because I Can
8 National - High Violet
9 Foals - Total Life Forever
10 Joanna Newsom - Have One On Me
11 John Grant - Queen of Denmark
12 Deerhunter - Halcyon Digest
13 Robert Plant - Band of Joy
14 Liars - Sisterworld
15 Emeralds - Does It Look Like I’m Here?
16 Forest Swords - Dagger Paths
17 Ariel Pink’s Haunted Graffiti - Before Today
18 Janelle Monae - The Archandroid
19 Salem - King Night
20 Gil Scott-Heron - I’m New Here

#2+#3 together don't outscore #1

More interesting 751 slots has produced 323 albums. BUT if you take out everything that only has one vote (180 albums) you reduce the number only 142 albums filling those 571 slots.

Mitchell Stirling, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 12:52 (six years ago) Permalink

NME, Uncut, Q, The Clash, Mojo, DiS, FACT, Sunday Times, Paste, Spin, Amazon.co.uk, The Fly, Rough Trade, The Quietus, Gorrila vs. Bear and Filter fwiw

Mitchell Stirling, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 12:55 (six years ago) Permalink

GAPDY vs BLAND (beach house, lcd, arcade fire, national, deerhunter)

modrić in paradise (blueski), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 13:03 (six years ago) Permalink

I'd go with BLANK when Kanye starts picking up steam tbh.

Mitchell Stirling, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 13:10 (six years ago) Permalink

B DANK (Best Coast, Deerhunter , Arcade Fire, National, Deerhunter.)

Bethany would want it that way.

purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 13:19 (six years ago) Permalink

memes of the year, a hoy mag

1. thank you based god
2. snacks the cat
3. deal w/ it
4. robbenballs
5. ? 10.0?

purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 13:22 (six years ago) Permalink

BLANKET (add Emeralds and These New Puritans)

Tim F, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 13:23 (six years ago) Permalink

SLANKET

replace beach house with salem, only wear the lists as a joke

modrić in paradise (blueski), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 13:31 (six years ago) Permalink

there it is

purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 13:32 (six years ago) Permalink

Nice. Could someone post the Filter list?

Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 13:44 (six years ago) Permalink

fact trax (spotify list), 27/40 tracks

smoke on this^ one (cozen), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 13:46 (six years ago) Permalink

By chance, just came across these - old Kerrang! album of the year lists.
Some properly surprising choices in the 80s.
http://www.rocklistmusic.co.uk/kerrang.html

ithappens, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 14:11 (six years ago) Permalink

Rolling Stone

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/68404/239077?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

30. Rick Ross - Teflon Don
29. The Roots - How I Got Over
28. My Chemical Romance - Danger Days: The True Lives of the Fabulous Killjoys
27. Peter Wolf - Midnight Souvenirs
26. Yeasayer - Odd Blood
25. Superchunk - Majesty Shredding
24. Maximum Balloon - Maximum Balloon
23. Elizabeth Cook - Welder
22. Spoon - Transference
21. Big Boi - Sir Lucious Left Foot: The Son of Chico Dusty
20. Neil Young - Le Noise
19. M.I.A. - Maya
18. Kings of Leon - Come Around Sundown
17. Beach House - Teen Dream
16. Kid Rock - Born Free
15. The National - High Violet
14. Robyn - Body Talk
13. Taylor Swift - Speak Now
12. John Mellencamp - No Better Than This
11. The Dead Weather - Sea of Cowards
10. LCD Soundsystem - This Is Happening
09. Eminem - Recovery
08. Robert Plant - Band of Joy
07. Drake - Thank Me Later
06. Vampire Weekend - Contra
05. Jamey Johnson - The Guitar Song
04. Arcade Fire - The Suburbs
03. Elton John and Leon Russell - The Union
02. The Black Keys - Brothers
01. Kanye West - My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy

Mitchell Stirling, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 16:08 (six years ago) Permalink

Even baby boomer Leftsetz didn't like the Elton John and Leon Russell. That must have been owner Jan Wenner's choice.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 16:12 (six years ago) Permalink

That's the worst list so far.

Listening through the Fact list and while they can be spot on at times they do like shome shonk as well. That Fantastic Mr Fox tune sound like something someone found down the back of an MP3 blog in 2006.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 16:14 (six years ago) Permalink

i'm really pleased to see dipset's "salute" getting repped for on the fact list

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 16:16 (six years ago) Permalink

Yeah that's great, although if they don't rep for Warrior One & Lady Chann's King Riddim then they are spectacularly failing their people.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 16:19 (six years ago) Permalink

i actually like the rolling stone list better than a lot of the indie-leaning sites!

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 16:20 (six years ago) Permalink

think that's the first i've seen taylor on a year-end list (yay)

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 16:21 (six years ago) Permalink

matt have you heard doorly & lady chann's "the one"? even better for my money.

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 16:21 (six years ago) Permalink

rolling stone honestly the one i like most so far. (not the same as one i'd like to check out most of)

purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 16:22 (six years ago) Permalink

ok sorry must have glazed over the top 3, f u rolling stone

purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 16:23 (six years ago) Permalink

remove the top 5, invert it and its a+

purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 16:24 (six years ago) Permalink

black keys album isn't a terrible choice for a rock mag to get behind

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 16:24 (six years ago) Permalink

matt have you heard doorly & lady chann's "the one"? even better for my money.

Didn't really like that one but I'm blaming the producer. She works so much better over house/funky/dancehall crossover than lairy blokestep.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 16:28 (six years ago) Permalink

"the one" isn't that lairy. i think it's just a lot tighter as a song. my favourite 2010 lady chann thing is prob her "hold yuh" vocal though, "feel calm".

her next single "treble to your bass" is kind of toddla t-style banging - there'll be a marcus nasty remix too...

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 16:30 (six years ago) Permalink

It might be that I'm not interested in tight songs from her, particularly, I just want her to ferociously let rip. That Gyptian track showcases a soft side I didn't know she could pull off though, good stuff. Looking forward to the single you mention as well.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 16:34 (six years ago) Permalink

the crazy high ranking overall for The National is sheer over-compensation for their previosu 2 albums' placings it's like the Lord Of The Rings films at the Oscars.

piscesx, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 16:36 (six years ago) Permalink

Not all they're cracked up to be, fwiw:

27. Peter Wolf - Midnight Souvenirs
23. Elizabeth Cook - Welder
16. Kid Rock - Born Free
12. John Mellencamp - No Better Than This
09. Eminem - Recovery

That said, don't see how the RS list is worse than any other ones on this thread.

xhuxk, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 16:37 (six years ago) Permalink

it's on youtube already.

between them, lady chann and cooly g are responsible for like 50% of my twitter timeline consisting of "kmt"

xps

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 16:38 (six years ago) Permalink

that eminem album is the worst (& i kinda-like everything through album #4 or so)

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 16:39 (six years ago) Permalink

maybe im just excited by seeing rick ross on a list, as he isn't part of the BERKD 'rap' crit hierarchy

purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 16:40 (six years ago) Permalink

idk i think that's score one for "rap" crit hierarchy - rick ross deserves to be on no list

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 16:41 (six years ago) Permalink

(big boi, em, roots, kanye, drake)

purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 16:41 (six years ago) Permalink

take big boi away and it could be DREK

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 16:41 (six years ago) Permalink

the BAWSE was the best thing on the only supposedly perfect record of the century.

purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 16:42 (six years ago) Permalink

if by the BAWSE you mean MINAJ

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 16:42 (six years ago) Permalink

ok second best.

purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 16:42 (six years ago) Permalink

But people's dainty sensitivities can cope with Kid Rock destroying all of black culture and history by being placed above Big Boi?

And Black Keys are a bad choice for a rock magazine to make, though not as bad as Elton John, John Mellencamp, The Roots, Maximum Balloon etc etc.

Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 16:49 (six years ago) Permalink

actually The Roots p otm for a rock magazine to make? it has fucking joanna newsom, the dirty projectors and a band of 'real' instruments on it.

purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 16:51 (six years ago) Permalink

also being butthurt is not going to make people read yr site.

purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 16:52 (six years ago) Permalink

And Black Keys are a bad choice for a rock magazine to make

this makes NO sense, they are just about a perfect choice for the "rolling stone demographic" as much as, say, liars/swans are solid choices for the "quietus demographic" -- feeling like you are just out to disagree w/ me ;_;

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 16:53 (six years ago) Permalink

Kid Rock destroying all of black culture

kid rock's not a "rapper" anymore, he's gone "country," didn't ya know?

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 16:53 (six years ago) Permalink

Re: The Roots. I meant more that it's a terrible fucking record as is Black Keys - especially if it's being chosen because of a demographic. The same percentage of our readers hate Salem as people here do. What's the point of chosing a list by second guessing what your readers like?

I'm just traumatized because of the number of tranquilizers I took at ATP. My butt will be back to normal tomorrow.

Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:02 (six years ago) Permalink

Sorry, but that Roots record is by no means "terrible".

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:03 (six years ago) Permalink

All the indie-baiting songs that got the record buzz are pretty terrible, but the rest of the record is really good.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:04 (six years ago) Permalink

Roots is the nuts. Ok maybe the second worst Roots records but its like picking yr favourite child when all ten of them are AWESOME (plus the tipping point child.)

purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:05 (six years ago) Permalink

drugs are bad, mmmkay?

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:12 (six years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I agree with you today.

Does everyone like The Roots then? You really do learn something new every day.

Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:16 (six years ago) Permalink

me != everyone.

purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:17 (six years ago) Permalink

they are next up on my 'band i should stop forgetting exist' list

modrić in paradise (blueski), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:17 (six years ago) Permalink

but yeah they are the most consistent musicians of the past twenty years and people who don't like them or ?uestlove* are savages.

*in part responsible for two of the best two records of the past decade, voodoo and new amerykah

purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:18 (six years ago) Permalink

Not to drag out another hoary old trope, but I often wonder how many people that hate the Roots really just hate the cult surrounding them. I mean, hate on some of the cring-worthy lyrics all you want, but these guys are astonishing musicians when they want to be.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:21 (six years ago) Permalink

From what I can see 2010 has had no more unjustly overlooked record so far than Nina Nastasia's sublime 'Outlaster', which hasn't appeared anywhere at all yet.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:23 (six years ago) Permalink

Bit too smooth, wholesome and sophisticated for me... although I do still have about three albums by them and I agree with you about New Amerykah.

(In fact I don't think it's terrible at all but it didn't really stand out for me.)

Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:23 (six years ago) Permalink

Sorry XP.

Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:23 (six years ago) Permalink

album i like not appearing itt: Delorean

modrić in paradise (blueski), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:25 (six years ago) Permalink

What's wrong with a rap band being sophisticated? /outright trolling

Also listen to Do You Want More???!?!? or Game Theory or Rising Down and you won't be thinking "smooth" or "wholesome".

purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:25 (six years ago) Permalink

From what I can see 2010 has had no more unjustly overlooked record so far than Nina Nastasia's sublime 'Outlaster', which hasn't appeared anywhere at all yet.

yeah surprised at this - though having said that, while i fucking love the album, it's more "bobbing around the lower reaches of my top 20" than a show-in for any ballot i put together

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:27 (six years ago) Permalink

smooth wholesome & sophisticated (esp sophisticated) are the best things abt the roots ... weaknesses are pretty much black thought's lyrical stylings imo

lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:27 (six years ago) Permalink

the sade and erykah albums haven't appeared on (m)any lists have they?

;_;

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:28 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah surprised at this - though having said that, while i fucking love the album, it's more "bobbing around the lower reaches of my top 20" than a show-in for any ballot i put together

It's top three for me easily, so many surprises in there.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:30 (six years ago) Permalink

There is absolutely nothing wrong with it at all but it's something that runs through most of my taste in music (admittedly with plenty of exceptions).

I guess I like the idea of a genre when it's still rough neck and like it less when it gets a make over for bars and expensive clubs etc. I felt the same way about jungle vs. intelligent drum and bass. I'm not really down with the Boomkat aesthetic with dance music for deep listening by the cognoscenti either. It's just a personal preference. In metal terms, it's what makes me like Slayer over Steve Vai or what have you.

Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:31 (six years ago) Permalink

See now I don't hear "bars and expensive clubs etc." at all in the Roots. Maybe its because they are the only famous hiphop band that they have that appearance? And cos they are a telly band? Something like Rising Down is dirty and noisy, much like that Waka was (in totally different ways obv).

purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:35 (six years ago) Permalink

I haven't had a TV for years and they're not that famous in the UK, so I don't know where this has come from.

Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:39 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah convos about the Roots like this always tend to get caught up more in their image and reputation than what their records actually sound like. that said, How I Got Over runs counter to what people expect of them less than any of their last few albums have.

Local Hardman (some dude), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:52 (six years ago) Permalink

I guess I like the idea of a genre when it's still rough neck and like it less when it gets a make over for bars and expensive clubs etc. I felt the same way about jungle vs. intelligent drum and bass. I'm not really down with the Boomkat aesthetic with dance music for deep listening by the cognoscenti either. It's just a personal preference. In metal terms, it's what makes me like Slayer over Steve Vai or what have you.

― Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Tuesday, December 7, 2010 11:31 AM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

so where is flockaveli on your list

lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:52 (six years ago) Permalink

Rolling Stone singles

50. Ke$ha "We R Who We R"
49. Elizabeth Cook "El Camino"
48. Das Racist "hahahaha jk?"
47. Kid Rock "Born Free"
46. MGMT "Congratulations"
45. The Rolling Stones "Plundered My Soul"
44. Neil Young "Love and War"
43. B.o.B. feat. Bruno Mars "Nothing on You"
42. Surfer Blood "Floating Vibes"
41. Junip "In Every Direction"
40. Kanye West "Power"
39. The Gaslight Anthem "The Diamond Church Street Choir"
38. Spoon "The Mystery Zone"
37. Lloyd Banks feat. Juelz Santana "Beamer, Benz, or Bentley"
36. Drake feat. Nicki Minaj "Up All Night"
35. Massive Attack feat. Hope Sandoval "Paradise Circus"
34. Gorillaz feat. Mos Def and Bobby Womack "Stylo"
33. Wavves "Post Acid"
32. Die Antwoord "Enter the Ninja"
31. Gil Scott-Heron "I'm New Here"
30. Jakob Dylan "Nothing but the Whole Wide World"
29. Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers "The Trip to Pirate's Cove"
28. Band of Horses "Laredo"
27. The National "Bloodbuzz Ohio"
26. Robyn "Dancing on My Own"
25. Nicki Minaj "Did It On'em"
24. Eminem "Not Afraid"
23. Jamey Johnson "Macon"
22. Rick Ross feat. Styles P "B.M.F. (Blowin' Money Fast)"
21. Sleigh Bells "Infinity Guitars"
20. Best Coast "Boyfriend"
19. The New Pornographers "Your Hands (Together)"
18. Jenny and Johnny "Scissor Runner"
17. LCD Soundsystem "I Can Change"
16. Cold War Kids "Coffee Spoon"
15. Drake "Over"
14. Big Boi feat. Cutty "Shutterbugg"
13. The Dead Weather "Hustle and Cuss"
12. Mark Ronson and the Business International feat. Q-Tip and MNDR "Bang Bang Bang"
11. The Black Keys "Everlasting Light"
10. Kanye West feat. Jay-Z, Rick Ross, Nicki Minaj and Bon Iver "Monster"
9. Broken Bells "The Ghost Inside"
8. Janelle Monáe feat. Big Boi "Tightrope"
7. Vampire Weekend "White Sky"
6. Mavis Staples "You Are Not Alone"
5. Arcade Fire "We Used to Wait"
4. Katy Perry "Teenage Dream"
3. Sade "Soldier of Love"
2. Cee Lo Green "Fuck You"
1. Kanye West feat. Pusha T "Runaway"

Mitchell Stirling, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:53 (six years ago) Permalink

Top ten RS singles surprisingly low on white people.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:54 (six years ago) Permalink

3. Sade "Soldier of Love"

YES M8 (even though it was technically an '09 single but never mind) (let's ignore what's above it too)

surprised they had nicki m's "did it on em" in there

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:56 (six years ago) Permalink

Deej: that would have been in my top 50, much lower than the Freddie Gibbs album which is in my top 30. Again, it's not my list but a group effort.

Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:58 (six years ago) Permalink

wow @ "soldier of love" #3, kickass

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:59 (six years ago) Permalink

40. Kanye West "Power"
1. Kanye West feat. Pusha T "Runaway"

^^ these need to swap places

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:59 (six years ago) Permalink

yup

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 18:03 (six years ago) Permalink

Thirded.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 18:09 (six years ago) Permalink

"From what I can see 2010 has had no more unjustly overlooked record so far than Nina Nastasia's sublime 'Outlaster', which hasn't appeared anywhere at all yet."

wow, thanks for reminding me. waka flocka and nina might be my number one and two for the pazz & jop poll.

scott seward, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 18:17 (six years ago) Permalink

I guess I like the idea of a genre when it's still rough neck and like it less when it gets a make over for bars and expensive clubs etc. I felt the same way about jungle vs. intelligent drum and bass. I'm not really down with the Boomkat aesthetic with dance music for deep listening by the cognoscenti either. It's just a personal preference. In metal terms, it's what makes me like Slayer over Steve Vai or what have you.

― Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Tuesday, December 7, 2010 11:31 AM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

so where is flockaveli on your list

― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Tuesday, December 7, 2010 11:52 AM (26 minutes ago) Bookmark

claiming that if the damn quietus list came out with waka on it would be met with "wow, unexpected! good look!" instead of "smh at you damn multicultis" is strictly bs

banshun, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 18:25 (six years ago) Permalink

Nicki tying Kanye for most appearances on the list is kinda crazy

Local Hardman (some dude), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 18:32 (six years ago) Permalink

I don't care if you're being sarcastic or not I'm suggest banning any annoying person who brings out the 'too black' 'too white' thing in here.

Moka, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 18:38 (six years ago) Permalink

Except that sometimes it can be a completely valid point.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 18:40 (six years ago) Permalink

Not a very interesting or insightful one though.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 18:42 (six years ago) Permalink

No it's not jon it's an unnecesary observation that you're only making too incite racial discussion.

Moka, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 18:44 (six years ago) Permalink

But thats about as arbitrary and stupid as saying, "I'm sbing anyone who complains about not enough rap on these lists".

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 18:44 (six years ago) Permalink

Yes, that's exactly my intent, you're on to me.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 18:44 (six years ago) Permalink

My point was just that Rolling Stone's lists are usually populated by old white guys and I was pleasantly surprised to see this year's top ten much less so. Totally a valid point.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 18:45 (six years ago) Permalink

But thats about as arbitrary and stupid as saying, "I'm sbing anyone who complains about not enough rap on these lists".

― one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0)

Ehmm no it's not, sbing about different music opinions is not valid, sbing about trolling is. What kind of answer are you honestly expecting with your comment? Are you inferring RS takes race into consideration when making votes for their best of the year?

Moka, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 18:49 (six years ago) Permalink

Whatever dude. I'm not sure you understand what trolling is.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 18:50 (six years ago) Permalink

at first glance that rolling stone singles list looks like something someone on ilm could come up with. maybe without the tom petty and the stones. and jakob dylan.

sad that peter wolf didn't make the singles list.

scott seward, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 18:51 (six years ago) Permalink

According to wikipedia:

A troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into a desired emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.

Hey! your comment qualifies!

Moka, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 18:53 (six years ago) Permalink

Hey! No it doesn't! But hey, you SBed me so hopefully enough other people agree with you that I'll be out of your hair with my inflammatory comments.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 18:57 (six years ago) Permalink

His comment here about Rolling Stone is not "off-topic"

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 20:08 (six years ago) Permalink

Or inflammatory or extraneous given the history of that magazine.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 20:09 (six years ago) Permalink

claiming that if the damn quietus list came out with waka on it would be met with "wow, unexpected! good look!" instead of "smh at you damn multicultis" is strictly bs

― banshun, Tuesday, December 7, 2010

Those darn multicultis. Because of them this thread is just dominated by ballots of critics forced to vote due to political correctness for Waka, Gucci, Currency and for dancehall, Congolese rumba, reggaeton and old African-American soul singers. Poor Salem and Arcade Fire, done in by multicultis.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 20:26 (six years ago) Permalink

claiming that if the damn quietus list came out with waka on it would be met with "wow, unexpected! good look!" instead of "smh at you damn multicultis" is strictly bs

― banshun, Tuesday, December 7, 2010 12:25 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

o rly

fwiw ilxor's (i think it was him?) argument upthread doesnt wash for me really. or its just a really misleading way of phrasing it

i was just responding to how doran described his own taste \oO/ but then id take waka & roots over freddie gibbs so

lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 20:32 (six years ago) Permalink

who knew that RS was really into random ass nicki minaj songs

gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 20:57 (six years ago) Permalink

iirc, Rolling Stone leaves five slots open on their list, to be filled in by putting an intern's iPod on shuffle and slotting in the first 2010 song that comes up

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 21:01 (six years ago) Permalink

that nicki minaj song was reviewed by pfork btw

lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 21:05 (six years ago) Permalink

lol, cuz pitchfork never reviews random songs that no one cares about

gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 21:10 (six years ago) Permalink

never said that, there does appear to be some consensus around that track tho

lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 21:21 (six years ago) Permalink

from FACT's list

At some point last winter what existed of the original record was semi-abandoned, Darkstar ceased being a production duo and – by adding a full-time vocalist, James Buttery – became a fully fledged band; dance music made way for melancholy, experimental synth-pop.

what is "experimental" about darkstar?

also, 0_o at darkstar being no. 5 on their (often interesting) year-end list.

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 7 December 2010 21:30 (six years ago) Permalink

never said that, there does appear to be some consensus around that track tho

― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Tuesday, December 7, 2010 3:21 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark

lol ok

gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 21:31 (six years ago) Permalink

was also implying maybe they were biting

lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 21:32 (six years ago) Permalink

well that's a different story

gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 21:33 (six years ago) Permalink

I wrote a few blurbs for the MySpace Top 50. I certainly am not gonna cosign all their selections, but this is definitely the best looking year end list I've ever seen:

http://www.myspace.com/music/blog/2010/11/29/the-best-albums-of-2010-2

john jjjusten jingleheimer smh (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 22:05 (six years ago) Permalink

haha it took me scrolling down a few entries to realize they did special graphics for each album and that every album on the list didn't have coincidentally similar aesthetics.

Local Hardman (some dude), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 22:29 (six years ago) Permalink

they did special graphics for each album

now i just have to figure out WHY anyone would do this

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 22:35 (six years ago) Permalink

<333 whiney's blurbs for the myspace list, which still has some looool moments (circa survive & b.o.b. in the top ten) but is altogether a nice change of pace

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 22:36 (six years ago) Permalink

still no shortage of arcade fire love, tho ;_;

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 22:36 (six years ago) Permalink

Rhapsody Best 50 tracks of the year:

http://blog.rhapsody.com/2010/12/boytracks2010.html

Rhapsody Best albums, #31 to 50 (more to come obviously):

http://blog.rhapsody.com/2010/12/boyalbums2010.html

(My picks had some bearing on both the singles and albums lists, but not a lot. And none at all on albums 31 to 50, I guess.)

xhuxk, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 22:45 (six years ago) Permalink

the love for "power" as a single is O_O

gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 22:53 (six years ago) Permalink

Actually looks like you can now click through at that Rhapsody album link to get to #s 1 through 30. (Fwiw, the two I wrote blurbs about when they came out are not ones I like much.)

xhuxk, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 23:09 (six years ago) Permalink

So both Rolling Stone and Spin have Jamey Johnson at #5. Sorry, had to point that out.

President Keyes, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 23:58 (six years ago) Permalink

is that album good? he's not someone I've seen much talk about on ILM

Dan S, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 00:13 (six years ago) Permalink

thx

Dan S, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 00:14 (six years ago) Permalink

It's my #1 of the year.

President Keyes, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 00:18 (six years ago) Permalink

they did special graphics for each album

now i just have to figure out WHY anyone would do this

― lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Tuesday, December 7, 2010 3:35 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

I like it.

rihanna refurbished my dick (rennavate), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 00:19 (six years ago) Permalink

oh they're not horrible graphics or anything, it's just...a lot of effort for not a great deal of point. i'd rather see the actual sleeve in every case.

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 01:10 (six years ago) Permalink

Or Pen & Pixel renderings

Andy K, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 01:19 (six years ago) Permalink

still not a peep from musically, btw...

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 03:25 (six years ago) Permalink

try emil.y, maybe?

hipity-hopity muzik ftw! (Ioannis), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 08:56 (six years ago) Permalink

they did special graphics for each album

The Black Keys one made me chuckle.

dorsalstop, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 09:17 (six years ago) Permalink

Stereogum list

50 Emeralds – Does It Look Like I’m Here?
49 Small Black – New Chain
48 Sharon Van Etten – Epic
47 Baths – Cerulean
46 Frank (Just Frank) – The Brutal Wave
45 Perfume Genius – Learning
44 Field Music – Field Music (Measure)
43 Big Boi – Sir Lucious Left Foot: The Son Of Chico Dusty
42 Lower Dens – Twin-Hand Movement
41 Oneohtrix Point Never – Returnal
40 Glasser – Ring
39 Gold Panda – Lucky Shiner
38 Avey Tare – Down There
37 jj – jj nº3
36 the morning benders – Big Echo
35 Swans – My Father Will Guide Me Up A Rope To The Sky
34 Titus Andronicus – The Monitor
33 MGMT – Congratulations
32 Twin Shadow – Forget
31 Warpaint – The Fool
30 Das Racist – Shut Up, Dude
29 Matthew Dear – Black City
28 Delorean – Subiza
27 Janelle Monae – The ArchAndroid
26 Tame Impala – Innerspeaker
25 ceo – White Magic
24 Tamaryn – The Waves
23 SALEM – King Night
22 Marnie Stern – Marnie Stern
21 Liars – Sisterworld
20 Ariel Pink’s Haunted Graffiti – Before Today
19 Flying Lotus – Cosmogramma
18 Abe Vigoda – Crush
17 Owen Pallett – Heartland
16 The National – High Violet
15 The-Dream – Love King
14 Yeasayer – Odd Blood
13 LCD Soundsystem – This Is Happening
12 Crystal Castles – II
11 Joanna Newsom – Have One On Me
10 Deerhunter – Halcyon Digest
09 Wild Nothing – Gemini
08 Antony & The Johnsons – Swanlights
07 Vampire Weekend – Contra
06 Sleigh Bells – Treats
05 Robyn – Body Talk
04 Sufjan Stevens – The Age Of Adz
03 Beach House – Teen Dream
02 Arcade Fire – The Suburbs
01 Kanye West – My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy

Dan S, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 17:06 (six years ago) Permalink

list very much in character

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 17:07 (six years ago) Permalink

ZERO decent albums in the top 10 has to be some sort of record

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 17:08 (six years ago) Permalink

FUCK EVERY FUCKING CLOTH-EAR PUBLICATION THAT PUTS KANYE FIRST

irish xmas caek, get that marzipan inta ya (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 17:09 (six years ago) Permalink

I count four, though Kanye's is definitely not one of them.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 17:10 (six years ago) Permalink

02 Arcade Fire – The Suburbs
01 Kanye West – My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy

~headdesk~

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 17:10 (six years ago) Permalink

pretty wild that this Kanye record is the first record since, like, Yankee Hotel Foxtrot to really getting the indie sites to agree that the major labels sometimes make records better than we do

dr. harbl's zing-along blog (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 17:11 (six years ago) Permalink

i like the kanye album alright but it'd be around my top 25-30 ranking or so -- no way #1

that arcade fire record = zzzzzzzzz

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 17:11 (six years ago) Permalink

i would listen to the antony, robyn and beach house as i like other stuff by them but haven't yet. of what i have heard they are on a 0% average.

irish xmas caek, get that marzipan inta ya (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 17:12 (six years ago) Permalink

who is that "we" whiney?

irish xmas caek, get that marzipan inta ya (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 17:13 (six years ago) Permalink

pretty wild that this Kanye record is the first record since, like, Yankee Hotel Foxtrot to really getting the indie sites to agree that the major labels sometimes make records better than we do

"we"? speak for yourself. indie sites and indie critics are firmly over THERE, far far far from where i locate myself.

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 17:13 (six years ago) Permalink

I like the Arcade Fire record, but it's pointless to stan for it in the face of conflict. You either dig it or your don't, whatevs.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 17:13 (six years ago) Permalink

lol xp!!

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 17:13 (six years ago) Permalink

10 Deerhunter – Halcyon Digest - decent, but not a patch on Cryptograms
09 Wild Nothing – Gemini - havent heard, most likely zzzzz
08 Antony & The Johnsons – Swanlights - not a patch on I Am a Bird Now
07 Vampire Weekend – Contra - zzzzzz
06 Sleigh Bells – Treats - surprisingly decent
05 Robyn – Body Talk - top ten material, A+
04 Sufjan Stevens – The Age Of Adzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
03 Beach House – Teen Dream - zzzzzzzzz
02 Arcade Fire – The Suburbs - zzzzzzzzzzzz
01 Kanye West – My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy - flawed, maybe top 30 material

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 17:14 (six years ago) Permalink

lex isn't indie? when did that happen?

irish xmas caek, get that marzipan inta ya (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 17:14 (six years ago) Permalink

oh didnt notice the deerhunter, i liked that.

irish xmas caek, get that marzipan inta ya (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 17:14 (six years ago) Permalink

I thought the Deerhunter album was their best by far

Dan S, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 17:16 (six years ago) Permalink

09 Wild Nothing – Gemini - havent heard, most likely zzzzz

quality criticism here

this is actually a really good album though

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 17:17 (six years ago) Permalink

Me too, but that's faint praise. I'm by no means a big fan. xp

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 17:17 (six years ago) Permalink

i'm open to hearing it, i guess, the band name just sounds kinda snoozy

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 17:19 (six years ago) Permalink

Glad this thread taught me that lex and a hoy hoy both work for powerful major label record companies

dr. harbl's zing-along blog (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 17:20 (six years ago) Permalink

Hey ilxor, can you do a personal rundown for all 50 of Sgum's choices? thanks in advance

dr. harbl's zing-along blog (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 17:21 (six years ago) Permalink

Is that what you meant? Do you think that Def Jam is an indie? What? Did those 30 days rob you of coherency?

irish xmas caek, get that marzipan inta ya (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 17:22 (six years ago) Permalink

I have no idea how to make my post any clearer

dr. harbl's zing-along blog (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 17:23 (six years ago) Permalink

Glad this thread taught me that lex and a hoy hoy both work for powerful major label record companies

well, w/ref to what you actually said originally, duhhh, of course they make better music than i do - i don't make music or work for any sort of record label.

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 17:24 (six years ago) Permalink

fact's 60-41 tracks are up.

shocked "wut" only came in at #41!

prolego, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 17:31 (six years ago) Permalink

wut?

irish xmas caek, get that marzipan inta ya (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 17:33 (six years ago) Permalink

They mixed up the track title and audio for the Andrea entry. The text refers to "You Still Got Me."

Andy K, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 17:40 (six years ago) Permalink

Hey ilxor, can you do a personal rundown for all 50 of Sgum's choices? thanks in advance

i realize u are kidding, but hey

A+: emeralds, big boi, oneohtrix, jj, swans, janelle, flylo, the-dream

overrated, still decent: avey tare, liars, lcd, yeasayer

like the few tracks i've heard: warpaint, ceo, matt dear, owen p.,

fucking horrible: mgmt, salem

zzzzzz: the national, joanna newsom

havent heard everything else

already covered the top ten for ya whiney

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 17:42 (six years ago) Permalink

dont worry i wont call u out on plagiarism if you tweet about these great albums on my behalf

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 17:42 (six years ago) Permalink

I like that Abe Vigoda album tons

BO (DJP), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 17:55 (six years ago) Permalink

02 Arcade Fire – The Suburbs
01 Kanye West – My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy

we're gonna be seeing a lot of this huh

gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 18:05 (six years ago) Permalink

I'll never understand why modern indie ppl cosign Das Racist but go out of their way to distance themselves from Antipop Consortium and Themselves and shit

dr. harbl's zing-along blog (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 18:10 (six years ago) Permalink

not that this has been a gr8 year for backpacky shit, save Gangrene, which no one is talking about except me it seems

dr. harbl's zing-along blog (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 18:11 (six years ago) Permalink

you really are capt. save an anti pop consortium aren't you

gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 18:12 (six years ago) Permalink

they're still great, what do you want from me

dr. harbl's zing-along blog (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 18:13 (six years ago) Permalink

maybe it's because das racist are marketed specifically towards hipsters & ppl that read stereogum?

gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 18:15 (six years ago) Permalink

and have a novelty song

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 18:15 (six years ago) Permalink

the scott pilgrims coming over on the hip-hop mayflower

dr. harbl's zing-along blog (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 18:15 (six years ago) Permalink

why would you market towards ppl who have a novelty song

seems like a very small niche

BO (DJP), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 18:16 (six years ago) Permalink

antipop consortium are fantastic, new record's great and they killed it when i saw em a year or two ago

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 18:16 (six years ago) Permalink

lol DJP trolling, cmon

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 18:17 (six years ago) Permalink

...

There is a difference between "trolling" (the blatantly overstated and hyperbolic comment I made about SALEM and racism way upthread that everyone ignored) and "making a joke" (my last post) that you might want to investigate.

BO (DJP), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 18:30 (six years ago) Permalink

making a "joke"

dr. harbl's zing-along blog (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 18:30 (six years ago) Permalink

"making" a joke

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 18:35 (six years ago) Permalink

Yeah, but the second I admit to liking anything on anticon. people start accusing me of a being a PM Dawn fan.

Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 18:36 (six years ago) Permalink

the blatantly overstated and hyperbolic comment I made about SALEM and racism way upthread that everyone ignored

I almost posted it on ILEpitaphs!

da croupier, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 18:36 (six years ago) Permalink

"laughing" or lol or something

But seriously folks, some albums if suddenly marketed to indie sites and reviewers/critics would get more acclaim, others might still get ignored (not enough genre specialist reviewers interested in stuff that's not hipster friendly)

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 18:38 (six years ago) Permalink

what's wrong w/ being a PM Dawn fan??

xxp

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 18:41 (six years ago) Permalink

I'm sending KRS One to your house

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 18:43 (six years ago) Permalink

pretty wild that this Kanye record is the first record since, like, Yankee Hotel Foxtrot to really getting the indie sites to agree that the major labels sometimes make records better than we do

― dr. harbl's zing-along blog (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, December 8, 2010 12:11 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

that's an interesting interpretation of the acclaim of YHF considering that the whole narrative of that album's success was "Warner Bros didn't know what a masterpiece they had on their hands, those bastards!"

Local Hardman (some dude), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 18:45 (six years ago) Permalink

also "MBDTF's critical consensus is so much stronger than any previous Kanye record" is almost as shaky a premise as your "Fuck You is the most instantly acclaimed pop single since Hey Ya" thesis.

Local Hardman (some dude), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 18:46 (six years ago) Permalink

i'm saying the critical consensus on indie sites like Pfork and Sgum is stronger this time out. The RS/Spin/Pazz crew was always in full force

dr. harbl's zing-along blog (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 18:51 (six years ago) Permalink

xpost, fine then, chance to ca. 2001 Strokes/Kid A

dr. harbl's zing-along blog (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 18:51 (six years ago) Permalink

Im taking this the opposite of Whiney -- most of these (strawmen) ppl think that kanye is just way better than all pop, smarter than all the other major label crap etc (peep the paste review) -- I don't think it has stereogum readers reconsidering the merits of major label pop

gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 18:55 (six years ago) Permalink

It's his bon iver record!

Plus is this really getting more indie love than late reg?

gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 18:56 (six years ago) Permalink

hasn't kanye always been the token pop/major label act in these lists?

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 18:59 (six years ago) Permalink

i don't really believe many people on the staff of these indie sites have bothered with many other major label hip-hop/r&b/pop albums at all

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 18:59 (six years ago) Permalink

antipop consortium are fantastic, new record's great and they killed it when i saw em a year or two ago

What new record? There's one this year?

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:02 (six years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I don't see what's new about it. Critics have loved him since day one. He doesn't represent major-label hip hop anymore than Outkast do.

The baby boomers have defined everything once and for all (Dorianlynskey), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:02 (six years ago) Permalink

Indie crits always loved Kanye but there was always this understood agreement that we has never better than Arcade Fire/AnCo/Antony/etc. I mean, when he tops the Pfork list its gonna be the first major label record to be #1 since Kid A, right? (i'm not gonna fact check this, so)

dr. harbl's zing-along blog (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:07 (six years ago) Permalink

Kanye only behind Sufjan in pitchfork's 2005

da croupier, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:08 (six years ago) Permalink

there was always this understood agreement

among whom?! like seriously NAME NAMES. i certainly wasn't party to it and want no part of it, or indeed of anyone who actually signed up to it

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:09 (six years ago) Permalink

i tried to google it and found this instead

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/clicktrack/2010/12/speculation_predicting_pitchfo.html

Great way to use your music section, Washington Post. Is stephen ilxor the editor over there now?

dr. harbl's zing-along blog (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:09 (six years ago) Permalink

who the fuck commissioned that

who the fuck PITCHED that

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:10 (six years ago) Permalink

lol with Anco at #7 and Antony at #5 behind Kanye on that list

i would credit any minor bump in indie-love for kanye more to do with lazy crits feeling safe in raves than some sort of increased comfort with major label wares

da croupier, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:12 (six years ago) Permalink

i done it.

xp

hipity-hopity muzik ftw! (Ioannis), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:12 (six years ago) Permalink

there was always this understood agreement

among whom?! like seriously NAME NAMES. i certainly wasn't party to it and want no part of it, or indeed of anyone who actually signed up to it

― lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Wednesday, December 8, 2010 2:09 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

jesus you know who he's talking about and that it's not you and you keep having these hysterical reactions every time, just quit it already.

Local Hardman (some dude), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:12 (six years ago) Permalink

Great way to use your music section, Washington Post. Is stephen ilxor the editor over there now?

lol not even

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:14 (six years ago) Permalink

lol with Anco at #7 and Antony at #5 behind Kanye on that list

meaning pfork's 2005 album list i mean: http://pitchfork.com/features/staff-lists/6222-top-50-albums-of-2005/5/

da croupier, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:15 (six years ago) Permalink

Given the amount of tedious handwringing already should we push the Pitchfork list off into its own slurry ditch thread or something?

Matt DC, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:16 (six years ago) Permalink

The AV Club list

25. Spoon - Transference
24. Four Tet - There Is Love In You
23. Titus Andronicus - The Monitor
22. Flying Lotus - Cosmogramma
21. Baths - Cerulean
20. Dessa - A Badly Broken Code
19. Yeasayer - Odd Blood
18. Call Me Lightning - When I Am Gone My Blood Will Be Free
17. Avi Buffalo - Avi Buffalo
16. Arcade Fire - The Suburbs
15. Wavves - King Of The Beach
14. Deerhunter - Halcyon Digest
13. Dum Dum Girls - I Will Be
12. The Black Keys - Brothers
11. Frightened Rabbit - The Winter Of Mixed Drinks
10. Robyn - Body Talk
9. Vampire Weekend - Contra
8. Superchunk - Majesty Shredding
7. Big Boi - Sir Lucious Left Foot… The Son Of Chico Dusty
6. Janelle Monáe - The ArchAndroid
5. The Roots - How I Got Over
4. LCD Soundsystem - This Is Happening
3. The National - High Violet
2. The Walkmen - Lisbon
1. Kanye West - My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy

Dan S, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:18 (six years ago) Permalink

see my thing is, why are people spending all of this time getting mad about Kanye being on these lists and not Wavves

then I remember nobody really knows shit about Wavves and I feel better

BO (DJP), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:24 (six years ago) Permalink

see my thing is, why are people spending all of this time getting mad about Kanye being on these lists

Fixed.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:25 (six years ago) Permalink

these lists are so depressingly awful

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:26 (six years ago) Permalink

Curious what people think the most critically popular album of the year that you wouldn't have guessed would be one of the most critically popular albums of the year is

I mean more in a "hey who thought they'd step up their game" way than a "wtf is wavves doing here" way

da croupier, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:26 (six years ago) Permalink

these lists of halfway decent music that is better promoted than other music that is as good if not better are vv informative tbqf

omar little, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:27 (six years ago) Permalink

lists of halfway decent music that is better promoted than other music that is as good if not better

truth bomb

dr. harbl's zing-along blog (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:29 (six years ago) Permalink

Curious what people think the most critically popular album of the year that you wouldn't have guessed would be one of the most critically popular albums of the year is

I mean more in a "hey who thought they'd step up their game" way than a "wtf is wavves doing here" way

LOL

My answer would be These New Puritans.

BO (DJP), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:29 (six years ago) Permalink

i just want you all to know that i blame lex for kanye topping all of these lists

congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:29 (six years ago) Permalink

funny to have spoon ride caboose at number 25 in the av club after their Remember The 90s guy claimed they're underappreciated for being so consistently perfect

da croupier, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:29 (six years ago) Permalink

also, da croup, my mind is still blown that anyone would give salem the time of day, but i should probably stop harping on that.

dr. harbl's zing-along blog (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:30 (six years ago) Permalink

wait, why are you telling me this?

da croupier, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:30 (six years ago) Permalink

because i read your post wrong

dr. harbl's zing-along blog (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:31 (six years ago) Permalink

gotcha

da croupier, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:31 (six years ago) Permalink

Also, how did Jamey Johnson "happen." Like I didn't even get a promo of it. The first time i heard of him was when he was getting four page features in every magazine

dr. harbl's zing-along blog (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:33 (six years ago) Permalink

The AV Club list

25. Spoon - Transference
24. Four Tet - There Is Love In You
23. Titus Andronicus - The Monitor
22. Flying Lotus - Cosmogramma
21. Baths - Cerulean
20. Dessa - A Badly Broken Code
19. Yeasayer - Odd Blood
18. Call Me Lightning - When I Am Gone My Blood Will Be Free
17. Avi Buffalo - Avi Buffalo
16. Arcade Fire - The Suburbs
15. Wavves - King Of The Beach
14. Deerhunter - Halcyon Digest
13. Dum Dum Girls - I Will Be
12. The Black Keys - Brothers
11. Frightened Rabbit - The Winter Of Mixed Drinks
10. Robyn - Body Talk
9. Vampire Weekend - Contra
8. Superchunk - Majesty Shredding
7. Big Boi - Sir Lucious Left Foot… The Son Of Chico Dusty
6. Janelle Monáe - The ArchAndroid
5. The Roots - How I Got Over
4. LCD Soundsystem - This Is Happening
3. The National - High Violet
2. The Walkmen - Lisbon
1. Kanye West - My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy

step 1: take rolling stone, spin, mojo, stereogum, etc. lists
step 2: shuffle albums, relist in different order
step 3: put kanye back on top since his album is perfect

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:36 (six years ago) Permalink

i dunno...RS top 5 article mentioned glowingly his anti blue state lyrics on a couple of songs, pretty unrepentant and harsh shit like they say, his zings against tofu and pricey wine in los angeles are pretty tough.

omar little, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:39 (six years ago) Permalink

vv curious about what he means by "when half of california riots"?

omar little, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:39 (six years ago) Permalink

rolling tabs on Kanye #1s

Vibe
Spin
Rolling Stone
Stereogum
Onion A/V

this is kind of unprecendented!

dr. harbl's zing-along blog (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:40 (six years ago) Permalink

and i mean, adding Pitchfork and Pazz & Jop to that are kind of a given

dr. harbl's zing-along blog (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:41 (six years ago) Permalink

And that makes it even more hilarious that Paste put Kanye after Mumford & Sons. Onward, little lion men

dr. harbl's zing-along blog (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:41 (six years ago) Permalink

markers, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:42 (six years ago) Permalink

markers is truly the worst comedy gif response practitioner in the history of ilx

Local Hardman (some dude), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:44 (six years ago) Permalink

<3

markers, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:46 (six years ago) Permalink

Jamey Johnson even got some love on his prior cd Whiney. Tsk, tsk, behind on your country music knowledge.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:46 (six years ago) Permalink

<333 markers

i would be so happy if pfork voters put something ahead of kanye for #1

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:46 (six years ago) Permalink

:-D

markers, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:47 (six years ago) Permalink

¯\(°_o)/¯

omar little, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:48 (six years ago) Permalink

whiney's right that JJ's profile has very suddenly raised among people not actively paying attention to country, i never heard of the guy until recently and it seems like he's everywhere

Local Hardman (some dude), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:48 (six years ago) Permalink

Jamey Johnson even got some love on his prior cd Whiney. Tsk, tsk, behind on your country music knowledge.

What blows my mind is this dude apparently co-wrote "Honky Tonk Badonkadonk"

da croupier, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:49 (six years ago) Permalink

omar little is truly the best comedy gif response practitioner in the history of this thread

Local Hardman (some dude), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:50 (six years ago) Permalink

whiney's right that JJ's profile has very suddenly raised among people not actively paying attention to country, i never heard of the guy until recently and it seems like he's everywhere

I sort of feel like that standard country-artist-hits-mainstream MO, though...? Like, become big in your niche which by the way a ginormous # of people listen to, then emerge onto the scene fully-formed like Athene bursting out of Zeus's forehead.

BO (DJP), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:52 (six years ago) Permalink

sure, but his critical profile is much higher than the average platinum country singer, let alone other merely gold-selling ones like him

Local Hardman (some dude), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:54 (six years ago) Permalink

i think the surprising thing is how he seems like he should be some drive-by truckers type alt-country badass while his career trajectory is more miranda lambert/taylor swift

da croupier, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:54 (six years ago) Permalink

dude even did reality TV!

da croupier, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:54 (six years ago) Permalink

Yeah, obviously. But what was the lead-up. I never saw it. I'm def not up on my country as much as I should be. But it's not like MF Doom or anything where there was like three years of indie people doing one page features and Q&As, this is like full indiecrossover right away afaik?

dr. harbl's zing-along blog (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:56 (six years ago) Permalink

I even saw the Miranda Lambert leadup coming

dr. harbl's zing-along blog (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:56 (six years ago) Permalink

losing your grip, dude!

da croupier, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:57 (six years ago) Permalink

(and haha i didn't know shit about this guy before everyone was like DIG THIS DOUBLE CD either)

da croupier, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:57 (six years ago) Permalink

might be the fact that he made a double CD that made people realize he was an Artist and not the new Keith Urban or something

da croupier, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:58 (six years ago) Permalink

seems like he should be some drive-by truckers type alt-country badass

Well, to be fair, so does Miranda Lambert.

what was the lead-up. I never saw it.

2009:

http://www.villagevoice.com/pazznjop/singles/2009/SGlnaCBDb3N0IG9mIExpdmluZw==/

2008:

http://www.villagevoice.com/pazznjop/albums/2008/VGhhdCBMb25lc29tZSBTb25n/

2008 album was the only album that year to make three out of four NY Times critics' Top 10s, fwiw.

xhuxk, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 20:02 (six years ago) Permalink

markers is truly the worst comedy gif response practitioner in the history of ilx

― Local Hardman (some dude), Wednesday, December 8, 2010 1:44 PM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark

for fuckin real

gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 20:11 (six years ago) Permalink

i feel whiney on jamey johnson too -- i think the double album had something to do w/ it

& yes, kanye being #1 on every single album list is absurd

gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 20:12 (six years ago) Permalink

thanks man!

markers, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 20:14 (six years ago) Permalink

monoculture isn't dead, kanye is the monoculture

gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 20:14 (six years ago) Permalink

markerculture isn't dead, markers is the markerculture

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 20:17 (six years ago) Permalink

kanye is such a dud to me. i don't get it. but, in all fairness, i haven't heard the new album. so, i should, i guess. but i really don't want to.

scott seward, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 20:18 (six years ago) Permalink

I can't wait for the "wtf were we thinking" looks back in 2015.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 20:21 (six years ago) Permalink

double album had something to do w/ it

Well, yeah -- Lots of talk about that on the album's thread. The marketing and packaging deserve an award themselves. Seems like the positive critical response the previous album got convinced Johnson and/or Mercury Records to present the new one as an Important Conceptual Work Of Art, like no Nashville country album ever before. And it worked. Three-LP vinyl version is real gorgeous.

xhuxk, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 20:22 (six years ago) Permalink

"to present the new one as an Important Conceptual Work Of Art, like no Nashville country album ever before."

scott seward, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 20:30 (six years ago) Permalink

I can't wait for the "wtf were we thinking" looks back in 2015.

you're assuming the crit picks in 2015 aren't going to be yay more dubious

da croupier, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 20:31 (six years ago) Permalink

chuck do you own this conceptual artistic statement from the 70's?

scott seward, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 20:37 (six years ago) Permalink

Let's not forget Red Headed Stranger.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 20:38 (six years ago) Permalink

well yeah country has a zillion "concept" albums.

scott seward, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 20:39 (six years ago) Permalink

I guess just not recently.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 20:40 (six years ago) Permalink

how you go from luke the drifter to chris gaines i'll never know though.

scott seward, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 20:41 (six years ago) Permalink

xp! Nah (to Scott, about the album he posted), but actually, I just remembered that Vince Gill (who is boring) put out a quaduple CD four years ago -- very big deal at the Grammys, obviously. And the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band's two Will The Circle Be Unbroken doubles fit in here, too. And maybe Red Headed Stranger. Probably other outlaw stuff too -- Jamey Johnson divides is into a Black Album and a White Album; David Allan Coe had a Happy Side and a Su-i-Side. So it's not like the Johnson thing is that unprecedented, I guess. Just don't think rock critics have ever fallen in line to this extent.

xhuxk, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 20:44 (six years ago) Permalink

the jon caramanica piece was really good! and compelling. i can see people - critics - wanting to check out the album after that ran.

scott seward, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 20:48 (six years ago) Permalink

Hey, so was my piece! Thing is, another huge part of Jamey Johnson's packaging to Serious Music Listeners is how he looks, not just how his album looks. (And I like him, a lot! But there's a ton of schtick involved.)

xhuxk, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 20:50 (six years ago) Permalink

i don't think i read yours! sorry!

scott seward, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 20:51 (six years ago) Permalink

Ha, no big deal! Did it for my former employer. Anyway, it's linked on the JJ thread.

xhuxk, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 20:54 (six years ago) Permalink

The complaints about lists are about as interesting as listening to gripes about the weather. Isn't anyone excited about new finds from some of the better lists? I'm enjoying LoneLady, Motorpsycho, Teeth Of The Sea, Anika, Årabrot and much more. Glad to see The Soft Pack finally appear on a list. Still at large - Julie Christmas - The Bad Wife.

Looking forward next week to The Wire, Treblezine and Resident Advisor. Then I'll be finishing up my own.

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 21:01 (six years ago) Permalink

The complaints about lists are about as interesting as listening to gripes about the weather. Isn't anyone excited about new finds from some of the better lists?

OTM. It's not like there's anything even remotely surprising about most of these lists but I seriously doubt ppl are devoting as much energy to listening to some of the unknown quantities than they are to the most rote of whining about Arcade Fire/Kanye/Deerhunter.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 21:05 (six years ago) Permalink

The Motorpsycho album has been my EOY poll find so far. Totally missed any talk of it beforehand.

sofatruck, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 21:08 (six years ago) Permalink

i would definitely check out a year-end best of 2010 youtube thread. there probably is one already.

scott seward, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 21:13 (six years ago) Permalink

ILM complaining about lists?!

bourgeoistech bourgeoisthèque (_Rudipherous_), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 21:16 (six years ago) Permalink

I thought that Motorpsycho was boring but whatev

dr. harbl's zing-along blog (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 21:17 (six years ago) Permalink

"ILM complaining about lists?!"

hahaha!

ILM: Making music more tedious than it has to be since 2000.

(but i'm still here, so, you know, whatever...)

scott seward, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 21:36 (six years ago) Permalink

Brooks as Chris Gaines looks a lot like Ben Stiller as Zoolander.

I don't ever expect there NOT to be complaints about lists. Like weather small-talk, it's expected and comforting in a mildly annoying way. It's just that I'd expect this group to be a bit more excited about new discoveries/revelations/faves.

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 23:15 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah, but to be fair, there is a whole year's worth of OMG! new album/song/band/etc threads.

scott seward, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 23:34 (six years ago) Permalink

Nearly had my head blown off by deja vu then. My music teacher was obsessed with White Mansions. "Bring up the 12-pounders!" sang some dying Civil War Officer dude to his ghost comrades.

Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 23:48 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah, but to be fair, there is a whole year's worth of OMG! new album/song/band/etc threads.

yeah the whinging is a reaction to not seeing most of the stuff we've going OMGing about all year get recognised by professional critics. i know we shouldn't expect any better. and i've totally been checking stuff out, just haven't got round to listening to it all yet.

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 23:52 (six years ago) Permalink

what was that dance magazine that had their list up with audio tracks and i even started a thread about their top 50 or whatever. last year, i think. i would check them out again. i'll have to find it. someone here works for them? or they did anyway. music mag world moves fast.

scott seward, Thursday, 9 December 2010 01:21 (six years ago) Permalink

Here's Latin Beat Magazine's top 10 (actually separate album lists from some of their contributors). Yes, ILX's Rudiph will be annoyed by the love for Spanish Harlem Orchestra

http://www.latinbeatmagazine.com/features.html

curmudgeon, Thursday, 9 December 2010 02:23 (six years ago) Permalink

More variety of opinion on it here: http://www.salsaforums.com/showthread.php?t=15373

I trust anonymous forum posters more than these critics. Or I guess I simply don't trust critics who hold SHO's recordings in high esteem.

bourgeoistech bourgeoisthèque (_Rudipherous_), Thursday, 9 December 2010 02:51 (six years ago) Permalink

skot: i would listen to all these xlr8r best of the year tracks

i believe noted ilx poster table is the table does something there

flopson, Thursday, 9 December 2010 02:56 (six years ago) Permalink

another no-placer on any of lists is nina nastasia's record, which i have a very hard time believing isn't better than most of what's on most of them. but of course i usually feel that way about her albums. i guess tomorrow's hipster cult artists have to come from somewhere.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 9 December 2010 03:21 (six years ago) Permalink

In retrospect, after seeing more and more of these lists, the more I'm liking Drowned In Sound's. I mean, at least this:

1) Emeralds Does It Look Like I’m Here?
2) The National High Violet
3) Deftones Diamond Eyes
4) Perfume Genius Learning

is a pretty interesting top 4, comparatively, even with the way too high National placement.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 9 December 2010 04:03 (six years ago) Permalink

Gigwise

50. Ellie Goulding - Lights
49. Delphic - Acolyte
48. Cee Lo Green - The Lady Killer
47. Eminem - Recovery
46. Hurts - Happiness
45. Tame Impala - Innerspeaker
44. Two Door Cinema Club - Tourist History
43. Band of Horses - Infinite Arms
42. Plan B - The Defamation Of Strictland Banks
41. The Coral - Butterfly House
40. Steve Mason - Boys Outside
39. The Chemical Brothers - Further
38. Bryan Ferry - Olympia
37. Kele - The Boxer
36. Manic Street Preachers - Postcards From A Young Man
35. Katy Perry - Teenage Dream
34. Mystery Jets - Serotonin
33. No Age - Everything In Between
32. Sleigh Bells - Treats
31. Flying Lotus – Cosmogramma
30. Janelle Monae - The ArchAndroid
29. Surfer Blood - Astro Coast
28. Magnetic Man - Magnetic Man
27. Kelis - Flesh Tone
26. Robyn - Body Talk Pt 2
25. The Drums - The Drums
24. Vampire Weekend – Contra
23. Beach House - Teen Dream
22. Trent Reznor & Atticus Ross - The Social Network
21. Big Boi - Sir Lucious Left Foot: The Son Of Chico Dusty
20. Four Tet - There Is Love In You
19. Gil Scot-Heron - I'm New Here
18. Salem - King Night
17. Interpol – Interpol
16. Black Keys – Brothers
15. Tinie Tempah - Disc-Overy
14. Laura Marling - I Speak Because I Can
13. LCD Soundsystem - This Is Happening
12. Yeasayer - Odd Blood
11. Gorillaz - Plastic Beach
10. My Chemical Romance - Danger Days
09. Warpaint - The Fool
08. These New Puritans – Hidden
07. Caribou - Swim
06. Foals - Total Life Forever
05. Everything Everything - Man Alive
04. Drake - Thank Me Later
03. The National - High Violet
02. Kanye West - My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
01. Arcade Fire - The Suburbs

Mitchell Stirling, Thursday, 9 December 2010 11:49 (six years ago) Permalink

Gorilla vs Bear (Songs):

01 Ariel Pink’s Haunted Graffiti – Round and Round
02 Joanna Newsom – Good Intentions Paving Company
03 Beach House – 10 Mile Stereo
04 James Blake – CMYK
05 Girls – Carolina
06 Twin Sister – All Around and Away We Go
07 Panda Bear – Alsatian Darn
08 James Blake – I Only Know (What I Know Now)
09 Big K.R.I.T. – Country Shit
10 Big Boi – Shutterbugg
11 Deerhunter – He Would Have Laughed
12 Morning Benders – Excuses (Yours Truly version)
13 Arcade Fire – We Used to Wait
14 Tennis – Marathon
15 Joanna Newsom – Baby Birch
16 Shabazz Palaces – Blastit
17 earlwolf – Orange Juice / Gucci Mane – Lemonade
18 Waka Flocka Flame – Hard In Da Paint
19 Twin Shadow – Castles in the Snow
20 Das Racist – hahahaha jk?
21 Korallreven – Honey Mine (feat. Victoria Bergsman)
22 Holy Other – YR LOVE
23 White Denim – Some Wild Going Outward
24 Crystal Castles – Not in Love (feat. Robert Smith)
25 Kanye West – Blame Game (edit)
26 White Hinterland – Icarus
27 Ariel Pink’s Haunted Graffiti – Fright Night (Nevermore)
28 Air Waves – Knockout
29 Puro Instinct – Stilyagi (featuring Ariel Pink)
30 Freddie Gibbs – National Anthem (Fuck the World)
31 Grouper – Vessel
32 Teen Inc. – Friend of the Night
33 Harlem – Gay Human Bones
34 Ghostface Killah – Together Baby
35 Games – Strawberry Skies
36 The Bitters – Travelin’ Girl
37 Lower Dens – Hospice Gates
38 jj – My Way
39 Kanye West – Runaway (feat. Pusha T)
40 Les Sins – Lina
41 Sunset – Late Night Dawning
42 Warpaint – Undertow
43 Tyler, the Creator – VCR/Wheels
44 Gil Scott-Heron – Me and the Devil
45 Washed Out – You and I
46 Erykah Badu – Window Seat
47 Toro y Moi – Low Shoulder
48 Miracles Club – A New Love
49 Eternal Summers – Pure Affection
50 Games – Planet Party
51 Panda Bear – Untitled / King Tubby sample (live)
52 Reading Rainbow – Wasting Time
53 Happy Birthday – Subliminal Message
54 Sufjan Stevens – Age of Adz
55 Young Galaxy – Peripheral Visionaries
56 Grimes – Devon
57 Coyote Clean Up – Can’t Shake the Full Moon
58 Candy Claws – Silent Time of Earth
59 Rangers – Deerfield Village
60 Wavves – King of the Beach
61 How To Dress Well – Ready for the World
62 Four Tet – Angel Echoes
63 Caribou – Odessa
64 Ciara – Ride (CFCF night bus refix)
65 Appaloosa – Intimate (Glass Candy remix)
66 Beautiful Swimmers – Big Coast
67 Bodies of Water – Rise Up, Careful
68 Pantha du Prince – Stick to my Side (feat. Panda Bear)
69 Robyn – Dancing On My Own
70 Hard Mix – Memories
71 Animal Collective – Screens
72 Nite Jewel – We Want Our Things
73 Tame Impala – It Is Not Meant to Be
74 Soft Healer – Movie Light
75 Fabulous Diamonds – Track 4
76 The Knife – The Height of Summer
77 The Sandwitches – Stardust
78 Jamie Woon – Night Air (Ramadanman refix)
79 Wet Wings – Running Like a Man
80 Bullion – Say Goodbye to What

Mitchell Stirling, Thursday, 9 December 2010 11:50 (six years ago) Permalink

Ha ha. Blame Game (edit). Does this edit exist or is it just wishful thinking?

The baby boomers have defined everything once and for all (Dorianlynskey), Thursday, 9 December 2010 12:05 (six years ago) Permalink

xp Nastasia is on my list, but I did notice her conspicuous absence here.

I like the Quietus and Rock-A-Rolla lists best so far. I'd love to find the current issue -- anyone know if it could be found in Chicago? I'd subscribe, but man, those UK rags azzrpe you by doubling the price + poor exchange rate - $70 for 6 issues, gah.

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 9 December 2010 13:48 (six years ago) Permalink

Amazed the Arcade Fire record is doing so well here given that most of the reviews I'd seen were along the lines of "some great songs, too long, patchy and a bit overwrought".

Matt DC, Thursday, 9 December 2010 14:06 (six years ago) Permalink

Fastnbulbous - I occassionally see Rock-A-Rolla at my local newsstand, but thats about it. Don't really come across it very often.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 9 December 2010 14:10 (six years ago) Permalink

longtime ilxors who keep making the same complaints about longtime ilxors who keep making the same complaints about obvious lists are even more boring than longtime ilxors who keep making the same complaints about obvious lists

da croupier, Thursday, 9 December 2010 14:21 (six years ago) Permalink

Wow you sure showed everyone!

Matt DC, Thursday, 9 December 2010 14:21 (six years ago) Permalink

taking it to the next level, that's what i do

da croupier, Thursday, 9 December 2010 14:22 (six years ago) Permalink

the next level of boring, sure

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 9 December 2010 14:23 (six years ago) Permalink

My mind hasn't been this blown since I watched Inception.

Matt DC, Thursday, 9 December 2010 14:32 (six years ago) Permalink

Gigwise

04. Drake - Thank Me Later
03. The National - High Violet
02. Kanye West - My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
01. Arcade Fire - The Suburbs

worst top four yet

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Thursday, 9 December 2010 14:37 (six years ago) Permalink

i mean, do some of these publications even vote on their own year-end lists, or just look at what other mags/sites are ranking highly and then make sure those albums are on their list, too?

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Thursday, 9 December 2010 14:39 (six years ago) Permalink

I don't know, but the confusion and anger you guys feel about Kanye ranking so high is multiplied a thousand-fold for me when I see Drake that high.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 9 December 2010 14:40 (six years ago) Permalink

I think generally music writers listen to whatever other music writers are talking about and then just agree on everything because they are mostly boring, fat, sad, post-collegiate white men who think Arcade Fire is an interesting band

maher shalal hash tagz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 9 December 2010 14:42 (six years ago) Permalink

don't be so hard on yourself!

scott seward, Thursday, 9 December 2010 14:45 (six years ago) Permalink

:)

maher shalal hash tagz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 9 December 2010 14:46 (six years ago) Permalink

need more boring fat sad post-collegiate other kinds of people in this thing

modrić in paradise (blueski), Thursday, 9 December 2010 15:07 (six years ago) Permalink

Tim F, Thursday, 9 December 2010 15:10 (six years ago) Permalink

The Name of This Band Is Indigo Girls

Andy K, Thursday, 9 December 2010 15:13 (six years ago) Permalink

lol

BO (DJP), Thursday, 9 December 2010 15:13 (six years ago) Permalink

scott seward, Thursday, 9 December 2010 15:15 (six years ago) Permalink

Ha.

As I moan every year, editors of "generalist" sites and pubs should seek out writers into non- indie rock stuff, or at least open to non-indie. But maybe there also aren't that many writers into dance, r'n'b, afropop, reggaeton, experimental, country, whatever? Alas, when African/Caribbean/Latin magazine the Beat folded up shop at the beginning of the year, its freelance contributors seem to have given up on writing rather than trying to find new locations.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 9 December 2010 15:20 (six years ago) Permalink

But maybe there also aren't that many writers into dance, r'n'b, afropop, reggaeton, experimental, country, whatever?

I mean, yeah, this is def true! There's def some sociological connection between "wanting to be a music writer" and "thinking indie rock is good music"

maher shalal hash tagz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 9 December 2010 15:23 (six years ago) Permalink

the last refuge of an english major

scott seward, Thursday, 9 December 2010 15:28 (six years ago) Permalink

Ha.

As I moan every year, editors of "generalist" sites and pubs should seek out writers into non- indie rock stuff, or at least open to non-indie. But maybe there also aren't that many writers into dance, r'n'b, afropop, reggaeton, experimental, country, whatever? Alas, when African/Caribbean/Latin magazine the Beat folded up shop at the beginning of the year, its freelance contributors seem to have given up on writing rather than trying to find new locations.

― curmudgeon, Thursday, December 9, 2010 9:20 AM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

how much freedom are these genre experts really given to affect the outcome of consensus lists, really. it requires that other writers give a shit about the genre on its own terms. you have to have an even number of rap writers. rap writers, or dance writers, not just a couple 'experts' scattered amongst a bunch of arcade fire fans (& even then yr dealing w/ rap writers who often accept corny received wisdom about what is 'worthwhile' etc.)

lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Thursday, 9 December 2010 15:32 (six years ago) Permalink

id rather write w/ an indie fan whose taste was well-articulated & unique/interesting even if strictly indie (lol does this exist) than a dude listing every j dilla clone who dropped an lp this year

lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Thursday, 9 December 2010 15:33 (six years ago) Permalink

requires that other writers give a shit about the genre on its own terms

And that those other writers also totally agree on which dance, r'n'b, afropop, reggaeton, experimental, country, etc., records were the best ones of the year! Which is real hard to do, given the numbers.

xhuxk, Thursday, 9 December 2010 15:37 (six years ago) Permalink

But like I said in my Pazz & Jop essay last year, the trend lately definitely seems to be moving toward indie-rock dominating end-of-year lists as a whole in ways that no one genre has dominated in decades, if ever. (Assuming you think of indie-rock as just "one genre" -- lots of people don't.) Though looks like hip-hop might be doing better, in general, this year than last year -- even if the albums doing well are mostly predictable, and not necessarily all that good.

xhuxk, Thursday, 9 December 2010 15:42 (six years ago) Permalink

otm music taste is way lamer, but still as diverse as, the early 00s

lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Thursday, 9 December 2010 15:45 (six years ago) Permalink

i think its basically a function of ppl getting to ignore the pop charts now so the echo chamber is harder than ever to puncture

lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Thursday, 9 December 2010 15:52 (six years ago) Permalink

people are comfy in their internet bubbles.

scott seward, Thursday, 9 December 2010 15:56 (six years ago) Permalink

My bubble is starting to smell funny.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 9 December 2010 15:57 (six years ago) Permalink

time to clean yer indie pod

scott seward, Thursday, 9 December 2010 15:57 (six years ago) Permalink

i didn't even know that my chemical romance had an album out this year until i looked at one of those year-end lists. i'm in my stoner rock bubble too much i guess.

scott seward, Thursday, 9 December 2010 16:01 (six years ago) Permalink

Mine reeks of NWOBHM spandex. Those red and white stripped ones are ripe!

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 9 December 2010 16:01 (six years ago) Permalink

id rather write w/ an indie fan whose taste was well-articulated & unique/interesting even if strictly indie (lol does this exist) than a dude listing every j dilla clone who dropped an lp this year

― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Thursday, December 9, 2010 9:33 AM (28 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

altho i guess the q is whether there is an 'indie as a distinct genre' heirarchy that exists outside of 'critical acclaim'

lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Thursday, 9 December 2010 16:02 (six years ago) Permalink

so Kanye is considered to be indie rock now, huh?

hipity-hopity muzik ftw! (Ioannis), Thursday, 9 December 2010 16:23 (six years ago) Permalink

well he is recording with Bon Iver

BO (DJP), Thursday, 9 December 2010 16:24 (six years ago) Permalink

very tru.

hipity-hopity muzik ftw! (Ioannis), Thursday, 9 December 2010 16:24 (six years ago) Permalink

his music is also boring, wanky & pretentious lol

lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Thursday, 9 December 2010 16:25 (six years ago) Permalink

...but in a good way.

hipity-hopity muzik ftw! (Ioannis), Thursday, 9 December 2010 16:26 (six years ago) Permalink

In the world of US politics Deej wants us to accept that the glass is half-full and that Obama acting centrist is all we can get, but in the music crit world he wants his Waka (or is it some other rapper not listed above) and not that centrist choice Kanye

curmudgeon, Thursday, 9 December 2010 17:03 (six years ago) Permalink

lol

curmudgeon, Thursday, 9 December 2010 17:03 (six years ago) Permalink

looooooool

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Thursday, 9 December 2010 17:04 (six years ago) Permalink

im not on pfork expecting waka to go #1, no

lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Thursday, 9 December 2010 17:06 (six years ago) Permalink

it is a better album just like the ideal health care bill is better than the one that passed

but obvi that doesnt matter

lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Thursday, 9 December 2010 17:07 (six years ago) Permalink

Pop Matters singles

60. Mutiny Within - Awake
59. OK Go - White Knuckles
58. Darren Hanlon - All These Things
57. Mark Ronson and the Business International - Somebody to Love Me
56. Mama’s Gun - Let’s Find a Way
55. Here We Go Magic - Collector
54. Daddy Yankee - Vida en la Noche”
53. Josh Ritter - The Curse
52. Foals - This Orient
51. Sharon Jones & the Dap Kings - The Game Gets Old
50. Flying Lotus feat. Thom Yorke - ...And the World Laughs With You
49. The Roots - How I Got Over
48. Beach House - Norway
47. Crystal Castles feat. Robert Smith - Not in Love
46. Owen Pallett - E Is for Estranged
45. Jonsî - Go Do
44. Frog Eyes - A Flower in a Glove
43. Kylie Minogue - All the Lovers
42. Gil Scott-Heron - New York Is Killing Me
41. Surfer Blood - Take It Easy
40. Liz Phair - Bollywood
39. Frightened Rabbit - Swim Until You Can’t See Land
38. Ryan Bingham & the Dead Horses - Depression
37. Delorean - Stay Close
36. Oneohtrix Point Never - Returnal (feat. Antony)
35. MGMT - Flash Delirium
34. The Hold Steady - The Weekenders
33. Sufjan Stevens - Impossible Soul
32. Eminem - Not Afraid
31. Sleigh Bells - Rill Rill
30. Titus Andronicus - A More Perfect Union
29. Lady Gaga ft. Beyoncé - Telephone
28. Justin Townes Earle - Harlem River Blues
27. Sade - Soldier of Love
26. Caribou - Odessa
25. Best Coast - Boyfriend
24.The New Pornographers - Sweet Talk Sweet Talk
23. Kanye West - Runaway (feat. Pusha T)
22. Surfer Blood - Swim
21. Erykah Badu - Window Seat
20. Blur - Fool’s Day
19. LCD Soundsystem - All I Want
18. Joanna Newsom - Good Intentions Paving Company
17. Gorillaz - Stylo
16. The New Pornographers - The Crash Years
15. Robyn - Dancing on My Own
14. Spoon - Written in Reverse
13. Sleigh Bells - Tell ‘Em
12. Janelle Monáe - Cold War
11. Miranda Lambert - The House That Built Me
10. Deerhunter - Helicopter
9. Gogol Bordello - Pala Tute
8. Ariel Pink’s Haunted Graffiti - Round and Round
7. Big Boi - Shutterbugg
6. LCD Soundsystem - Dance Yrself Clean
5. Kanye West - Power
4. The National - Bloodbuzz, Ohio
3. Arcade Fire - Sprawl II
2. Janelle Monáe - Tightrope
1. Cee-Lo Green - Fuck You

Dan S, Thursday, 9 December 2010 17:15 (six years ago) Permalink

Yes, IlX's Dr. Phil voted in the Pop Matters poll for #54 while most folks mistakenly wrote off Daddy Yankee years ago.

Need to research this more, but I think that since Sasha Frere-Jones reviewed a big reggaeton show at Madison Square Garden in the New Yorker several years back, that he has not written about any Spanish-language pop since (despite his criticisms of others several years back).

curmudgeon, Thursday, 9 December 2010 17:27 (six years ago) Permalink

stopped reading that list at

59. OK Go - White Knuckles

maher shalal hash tagz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 9 December 2010 17:30 (six years ago) Permalink

Love that DY song.

bourgeoistech bourgeoisthèque (_Rudipherous_), Thursday, 9 December 2010 17:32 (six years ago) Permalink

should have kept reading:

46. Owen Pallett - E Is for Estranged

(should also have been higher)

BO (DJP), Thursday, 9 December 2010 17:33 (six years ago) Permalink

Need to research this more, but I think that since Sasha Frere-Jones reviewed a big reggaeton show at Madison Square Garden in the New Yorker several years back, that he has not written about any Spanish-language pop since (despite his criticisms of others several years back).

― curmudgeon, Thursday, December 9, 2010 11:27 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark

tbf sfj has kinda not been on the bleeding edge of anything for a minute

lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Thursday, 9 December 2010 17:34 (six years ago) Permalink

isn't he busy writing a book or sumthing?

hipity-hopity muzik ftw! (Ioannis), Thursday, 9 December 2010 17:35 (six years ago) Permalink

I think so, but he still contributes some to the New Yorker and lists his 2010 best albums and singles on his blog or tumblr

curmudgeon, Thursday, 9 December 2010 17:41 (six years ago) Permalink

since when is being on the bleeding edge of anything important?

oh wait i'm talking to deej, nvm

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Thursday, 9 December 2010 17:42 (six years ago) Permalink

successfully zinged by ilxor, lose two "face" points

maher shalal hash tagz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 9 December 2010 17:47 (six years ago) Permalink

whiney deems zing successful #zingfail

lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Thursday, 9 December 2010 17:48 (six years ago) Permalink

oh look the comedy police

maher shalal hash tagz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 9 December 2010 17:50 (six years ago) Permalink

Yummy Bingham and Live Goats

Andy K, Thursday, 9 December 2010 17:51 (six years ago) Permalink

for a dude that had universal ilx praise round here for awhile im kind of in the he-fell-off camp. freddie gibbs piece was eye-roll-y, & there's something so trite & un-critical about stuff like this: "Get ready for a fight about the legitimacy of the group and, hopefully, for an influx of more South African pop culture."

lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Thursday, 9 December 2010 17:51 (six years ago) Permalink

Any excuse to post this

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 9 December 2010 17:51 (six years ago) Permalink

seriously i think that might have been my least favorite sentence from a great writer all year

lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Thursday, 9 December 2010 17:54 (six years ago) Permalink

hey look guys, herman's emerged from his false metal judging panel

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Thursday, 9 December 2010 17:56 (six years ago) Permalink

*crickets*

lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Thursday, 9 December 2010 17:59 (six years ago) Permalink

*comedy cricket foot police*

Local Hardman (some dude), Thursday, 9 December 2010 18:00 (six years ago) Permalink

*improper use of asterisks police*

lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Thursday, 9 December 2010 18:00 (six years ago) Permalink

pointless request but can we talk about music instead of each other because frankly this bullshit meta sniping is what makes you all incredibly tedious and useless

BO (DJP), Thursday, 9 December 2010 18:01 (six years ago) Permalink

oh look the sniping police

maher shalal hash tagz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 9 December 2010 18:03 (six years ago) Permalink

Pop Matters singles list includes the title track from the Roots' How I Got Over. the album was released in June 2010 but that song was released as a single in June 2009.

Local Hardman (some dude), Thursday, 9 December 2010 18:03 (six years ago) Permalink

had a good run for awhile there

omar little, Thursday, 9 December 2010 18:04 (six years ago) Permalink

can you all just keep insulting each other cuz i'd actually prefer that to talk of the arcade fire and kanye.

scott seward, Thursday, 9 December 2010 18:07 (six years ago) Permalink

let's all talk about Vampire Weekend instead. i like 'em.

hipity-hopity muzik ftw! (Ioannis), Thursday, 9 December 2010 18:15 (six years ago) Permalink

xp Rock-A-Rolla wrote back and said Reckless carries it. I've looked there before with no luck. I had 'em hold the Oct/Nov issue for me. I assume the one with the year-end list is Dec/Jan? It isn't there yet.

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 9 December 2010 18:22 (six years ago) Permalink

aQ might get it?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 9 December 2010 18:27 (six years ago) Permalink

They said the Young Gods cover with the list should be in U.S. stores in 2 wks. Does it have some good write-ups with each album?

Picked up Decibel last night, and both Ivar and Grutle of Enslaved put Motorpsycho in their top 5 (both also had Iron Maiden and Shining). It's not for everyone, but if you're into psych 'n' prog, I recommend it.

I gotta have respect for anyone who listens to more stuff than me (which seems to max out at 500 a year lately). I'd imagine if I had to listen to more than 1,000 new albums a year my habits would change and I would be less patient for growers, and more into stuff that spreads immediately with the hooks and the melodies.

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 9 December 2010 20:00 (six years ago) Permalink

oh look the sniping police

― maher shalal hash tagz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, December 9, 2010 12:03 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i lolled. can al weigh in on this one too

lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Thursday, 9 December 2010 20:09 (six years ago) Permalink

that's not an actual request, is it

Local Hardman (some dude), Thursday, 9 December 2010 20:23 (six years ago) Permalink

Via the Awl:

Nearly 100 People Choose Their #1 Album of 2010

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 9 December 2010 22:39 (six years ago) Permalink

omg where is strongo

BO (DJP), Thursday, 9 December 2010 22:41 (six years ago) Permalink

NICE thanks!!

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Thursday, 9 December 2010 22:41 (six years ago) Permalink

Kanye West: My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
—Charles Aaron

Kanye West: My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
—Antiquiet

Kanye West: My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
—Zach Baron

Kanye West: My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
—John Brodeur

Kanye West: My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
—Dave Bry

Kanye West: My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
—Zoe Chace

Kanye West: My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
—Caryn Ganz

Kanye West: My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
—Dan Gibson

Kanye West: My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
—J. Edward Keyes

Kanye West: My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
—Amy Phillips

Kanye West: My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
—Chris Richards

Kanye West: My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
—Simon Vozick-Levinson

Kanye West: My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
—Jonah Weiner

O_O

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Thursday, 9 December 2010 22:43 (six years ago) Permalink

popular record is popular

maher shalal hash tagz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 9 December 2010 22:45 (six years ago) Permalink

whiney g. is whiney

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Thursday, 9 December 2010 22:51 (six years ago) Permalink

Ned's choice not particularly surprising. ;)

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 9 December 2010 22:54 (six years ago) Permalink

is it loveless?

scott seward, Thursday, 9 December 2010 22:55 (six years ago) Permalink

yes

BO (DJP), Thursday, 9 December 2010 22:57 (six years ago) Permalink

Arp: The Soft Wave
—Scott Tennent

Ciara: Basic Instinct
—Alex Macpherson

Erykah Badu: New Amerykah Part 2
—Seth Colter Walls

Harvey Milk: A Small Turn of Human Kindness
—Christopher R. Weingarten

Jack Rose: Luck in the Valley
—Bill Meyer

Kylesa: Spiral Shadow
—Gillian Reagan

Lindstrøm & Christabelle: Real Life Is No Cool
—Kate Silver

Rangda: False Flag
—Marc Masters

School of Seven Bells: Disconnect From Desire
—Ned Raggett

would love to see more love for these ^^ in year-end polls

Destroyer: Streethawk – A Seduction
—Ryan Catbird

lol wasn't this released 10-11 years ago?

Insane Clown Posse: Bang! Pow! Boom! (Nuclear Edition)
—Camille Dodero

uhhhhh... really??

James Blake: (“My iTunes playlist of James Blake’s 2010 collected works”)
—Scott Plagenhoef

loving this choice!

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Thursday, 9 December 2010 22:57 (six years ago) Permalink

(whiney if u want i can give u color commentary on all 100+ choices, y/n)

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Thursday, 9 December 2010 22:57 (six years ago) Permalink

"MY COMPUTER is the album of the year" wasn't even clever when Spin did it 10 years ago

Local Hardman (some dude), Thursday, 9 December 2010 23:02 (six years ago) Permalink

there are plenty of artists at this point for whom 'the collected eps by...' has been replaced by 'the collected mp3s by'

lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Thursday, 9 December 2010 23:07 (six years ago) Permalink

I think Cam1ll3 D0der0 is on some ironic ish with that. She's a Village Voice web editor and she calls herself a "Juggalo expert" on her twitter bio. She also wrote one of those big pieces about "lol look at the juggalos gathering".

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 9 December 2010 23:08 (six years ago) Permalink

there are plenty of artists at this point for whom 'the collected eps by...' has been replaced by 'the collected mp3s by'

― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Thursday, December 9, 2010 6:06 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

did people ever refer to "the collected EPs by" an artist as an album or are you talking about stuff that actually was compiled/reissued on one release?

Local Hardman (some dude), Thursday, 9 December 2010 23:10 (six years ago) Permalink

The process of recycling Styrofoam

The process of recycling Styrofoam involves feeding the collected EPS foam through conveyor belts into a shredding machine.

The shredded EPS foam is then transferred to a plastic extruder where the foam is exposed to heat and pressure to melt the EPS foam. Subsequently, the melted EPS foam passes out through a small outlet at the end of the extruder and solidifies into a continuous form.

This form of EPS can then be easily transported to the required factories for remolding (again using heat and pressure) into its new EPS products.

Check out this video on the Styrofoam recycling process.

omar little, Thursday, 9 December 2010 23:14 (six years ago) Permalink

fyi, camille's piece was really good in that it was one of the few that wasn't all condescendingly "lol juggalos"

SBin & The Witch (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 9 December 2010 23:24 (six years ago) Permalink

That is true Whiney, I had her piece mixed up with another one until I looked at it again.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 9 December 2010 23:25 (six years ago) Permalink

it was still basically "lol juggalos" but not terribly condescending in the process

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Thursday, 9 December 2010 23:30 (six years ago) Permalink

everyone has terrible taste in music except for me

Lamp, Thursday, 9 December 2010 23:32 (six years ago) Permalink

Pop Matters list if full of non-singles. Sloppy.

Mitchell Stirling, Thursday, 9 December 2010 23:38 (six years ago) Permalink

juno top 50 tracks - http://www.junodownload.com/plus/2010/12/09/juno-plus-top-50-tracks-of-2010/

just sayin, Friday, 10 December 2010 00:04 (six years ago) Permalink

Makes the FACT list look like Q and makes me feel about 108.

The baby boomers have defined everything once and for all (Dorianlynskey), Friday, 10 December 2010 00:08 (six years ago) Permalink

wowee zowee that juno thing is my kinda list! have no idea what any of it sounds like. gonna investigate. cheers!

scott seward, Friday, 10 December 2010 00:09 (six years ago) Permalink

:)

just sayin, Friday, 10 December 2010 00:12 (six years ago) Permalink

already digging the kevin gorman track. sounds awesome.

scott seward, Friday, 10 December 2010 00:13 (six years ago) Permalink

is there any list out there that includes "miami 2 ibiza" aside from mine? like, is there any dance crit site that takes populist dance music seriously whatsoever? it seems like theres some wild double standard w/ rap where everyone takes Drake soooo seriously, and dance music where we're only reviewing obscure german 12"

lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Friday, 10 December 2010 00:30 (six years ago) Permalink

James Blake aside, that Juno list is great. The Midnight Magic/Jacques Renault record is a jam and the whole Permanent Vacation comp it comes from is ace.

Virtually every other song with Tinie Tempah on this year is better than Miami 2 Ibiza.

Matt DC, Friday, 10 December 2010 00:31 (six years ago) Permalink

miami 2 ibiza rules wtf

lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Friday, 10 December 2010 00:33 (six years ago) Permalink

im not concerned w/ tinie tempah im concerned w/ big populist dance music that critics pretend doesnt exist

lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Friday, 10 December 2010 00:33 (six years ago) Permalink

like taio cruz?

gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Friday, 10 December 2010 00:34 (six years ago) Permalink

I think dance music criticism and populist dance music do sometimes stray closer to one another but they're very far apart indeed at the moment, if only because the David Guetta/Swedish House Mafia school is so awful. They were much closer when people like Mylo or Felix or Zombie Nation were having huge hits.

Matt DC, Friday, 10 December 2010 00:36 (six years ago) Permalink

& i dont mean 'populist' as in popular with fools gold fans who are willing to put up w/ 4th rate strictly rhythm bites but 'populist' as in, crosses over to huge dance audiences

lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Friday, 10 December 2010 00:36 (six years ago) Permalink

I think dance music criticism and populist dance music do sometimes stray closer to one another but they're very far apart indeed at the moment, if only because the David Guetta/Swedish House Mafia school is so awful. They were much closer when people like Mylo or Felix or Zombie Nation were having huge hits.

― Matt DC, Thursday, December 9, 2010 6:36 PM (8 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

you could say the same thing about rap right now, except that for some reason, (and im not saying this is true on ilx), critics at certain places that i might even write for are still repping for some super lame pop rap

lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Friday, 10 December 2010 00:39 (six years ago) Permalink

Yeah but a significant number of rap writers have spent the best part of the decade fighting the corner for mainstream/commercial rap whereas in dance music its more about crate digging and highlighting the best stuff for DJs. The critical landscape is totally different.

Matt DC, Friday, 10 December 2010 00:42 (six years ago) Permalink

Mostly amateur DJs I think...

Matt DC, Friday, 10 December 2010 00:43 (six years ago) Permalink

is there any list out there that includes "miami 2 ibiza" aside from mine? like, is there any dance crit site that takes populist dance music seriously whatsoever? it seems like theres some wild double standard w/ rap where everyone takes Drake soooo seriously, and dance music where we're only reviewing obscure german 12"

This is true, but I think the bigger issue is not whether post-Guetta stuff or Swedish House Mafia is good or not but rather how it's conceived and categorised. Stuff like "Dynamite" and "Club Can't Handle Me" really is the pop-dance of now, this is the kind of stuff that gets played at christmas office parties whereas 4 years ago it might have been "Drop The Pressure" and "Call On Me". And then of course Gaga as well.

The effect of which is that the entire substratum of chartbound populist dance has now blurred to the point of indistinction from actual pop/r&b. The Kylie collabo with Taio is very telling in this regard.

Even 3 or 4 years ago pop-dance in the sense of dance producers releasing non-star-based songs that would go to the top of the charts was its own distinct thing and merited attention as a genre in itself. I'm not sure if that's true at the moment, though obviously any such remission is directly inversely proportionate to how much more dance-pop-ish pop/r&b happens to be.

And of course non-charting populist dance is always one of the most ignored areas of music (see also non-charting populist rap or non-charting populist R&B) - see UK funky obv!

And I'm pretty sure no actual dance music review site has ever taken pop-dance seriously.

Tim F, Friday, 10 December 2010 00:48 (six years ago) Permalink

tinie tempah album is pretty rubbish for the most part imo but miami2ibiza is slightly better than most of the shm/guetta shit. would rather listen/dance to crookers type stuff but there seems to be no actual charting/populist dance stuff in my top 100 tracks apart from uh telephone if that counts. maybe i can find a seamus haji remix of something to boost if desperate.

modrić in paradise (blueski), Friday, 10 December 2010 00:52 (six years ago) Permalink

actually its the passion pit remix of telephone which def doesn't count

modrić in paradise (blueski), Friday, 10 December 2010 00:57 (six years ago) Permalink

Yeah I think the Guetta track that's likely to get closest to any of these lists is actually a Kelis song.

Matt DC, Friday, 10 December 2010 00:59 (six years ago) Permalink

i forget that i quite like Acapella and 4th Of July

modrić in paradise (blueski), Friday, 10 December 2010 01:00 (six years ago) Permalink

what are the biggest dance tracks of the last year or so?

nakhchivan, Friday, 10 December 2010 01:00 (six years ago) Permalink

as in sales / mnstrm exposure obv

nakhchivan, Friday, 10 December 2010 01:01 (six years ago) Permalink

UK funky has really replaced my pop-dance fandom over the last few years. I still liked a fair amount of stuff last year like the Ducksauce tune but this year the only thing i've really stanned for is Chris Sorbello's "So Lonely" (in both its Club Mix and Hook & Sling Mix forms).

Tim F, Friday, 10 December 2010 01:03 (six years ago) Permalink

xp

the aformentioned kelis an anything involving guetta
we speak no americano
sidney samson - riverside
duck sauce - barbara streisand

:(

modrić in paradise (blueski), Friday, 10 December 2010 01:03 (six years ago) Permalink

barbara streisand is a pretty boring song! love the video tho

lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Friday, 10 December 2010 01:09 (six years ago) Permalink

The first Ducksauce tune was much better.

Riverside's awesome obv.

"Pon De Floor" might be the most universalising tune of the last two years in terms of critical and popular support combined...?

Tim F, Friday, 10 December 2010 01:10 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah i checked those and they seem pretty bad except for riverside....which seems alright

nakhchivan, Friday, 10 December 2010 01:12 (six years ago) Permalink

adam buxton showed 'pon de floor' at one of his music video showcases at the nft, replete with a careful selction of lol wite ppl youtube comments

'you had to be there'

nakhchivan, Friday, 10 December 2010 01:18 (six years ago) Permalink

i guess commerical dance had a brief mid-decade convergence with 'critical trends' before returning to its early 00s nadir

nakhchivan, Friday, 10 December 2010 01:19 (six years ago) Permalink

And of course non-charting populist dance is always one of the most ignored areas of music

what to you is the difference between non-charting populist dance and non-charting non-populist dance?

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Friday, 10 December 2010 03:16 (six years ago) Permalink

i kind of agree in theory that commercial dance should be taken more seriously but swedish house mafia and david guetta just suck ass and can jump off a cliff as far as i'm concerned

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Friday, 10 December 2010 03:17 (six years ago) Permalink

so odd that the one artist i felt actually did the otherwise awful trend du jour with panache and creativity - kelis - actually ended up completely flopping

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Friday, 10 December 2010 03:18 (six years ago) Permalink

The curse of La Roux

Ned Raggett, Friday, 10 December 2010 03:18 (six years ago) Permalink

la roux didn't end up on the album in the end, thankfully!

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Friday, 10 December 2010 03:24 (six years ago) Permalink

Your voodoo hex worked! (I assume you arranged for one.)

Ned Raggett, Friday, 10 December 2010 03:25 (six years ago) Permalink

more like a hitman

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Friday, 10 December 2010 03:33 (six years ago) Permalink

i kind of agree in theory that commercial dance should be taken more seriously but swedish house mafia and david guetta just suck ass and can jump off a cliff as far as i'm concerned

― lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Thursday, December 9, 2010 9:17 PM (24 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lol

lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Friday, 10 December 2010 03:42 (six years ago) Permalink

what to you is the difference between non-charting populist dance and non-charting non-populist dance?

This wasn't some kind of snarky comment I was making, and is separate to the discussion we were having earlier this year re mid-00s dance criticism vs dance criticism circa 2010 (though that may not have been clear). I'm talking about the ultra ultra populist stuff.

Like, this week I had to review a single by a local duo called Scarlet Belle (or something, i forget), who are comprised of a former OZ Popstars group member and a former Australian Idol contestant, and who make mildly r&b-ified vocal-house that's kinda wannabe Freemasons. This stuff is basically designed for gay clubs and suburban pubs (despite the almost antithetical nature of their respective audiences). Sometimes it charts but for every such track that becomes a hit there's like 10 that hardly anyone hears. I can feel already this one's gonna flop.

This is non-charting populist dance. A lot of it isn't very good and doesn't deserve to be reviewed - as per a lot of most genres.

In the same way that there's reams of non-charting teen-pop and non-charting populist R&B.

And all of these "scenes" have individual critics or non-critic fans who over-fetishise it all to death, but media publications tend to shy away from any such thing if the non-charting side of things can't be fashioned as a kind of "underground" of sorts (uk funky is a bad example in this regard because it clearly can fit an "underground" narrative - the reasons for the media ignoring it are different and more complex).

Thing is, as far as I can tell there's simply a lot less populist dance being made these days. I used to get about 2 pop-trance singles per week in my review pile, but no longer.

Tim F, Friday, 10 December 2010 03:56 (six years ago) Permalink

so wait, who are the people ignoring or not writing about uk funky? i'm curious. and the reasons are complex! i smell intrigue...

is there foul play afoot? i really need to get to the bottom of this.

scott seward, Friday, 10 December 2010 04:26 (six years ago) Permalink

This thread has convinced me to come out of retirement. Thanks! (Also to listen to some records I haven't heard. Thanks for that too.)

T Bone Streep (Cave17Matt), Friday, 10 December 2010 05:17 (six years ago) Permalink

so wait, who are the people ignoring or not writing about uk funky? i'm curious. and the reasons are complex! i smell intrigue...

It's not terribly intriguing. To be reductive, uk funky is "underground" enough that it's likely only going to be on the radar of dance music publications with an emphasis on explicitly (or purportedly) progressive/forward-slanted aesthetics, but doesn't chime in sufficiently with the other signifiers associated with that aesthetic(s) so as to generate much critical enthusiasm. So it falls between two stools.

Whereas pop-trance, say, is entirely off that radar.

Tim F, Friday, 10 December 2010 06:26 (six years ago) Permalink

isnt that forward-thinking kind of mindset entirely ridiculous at this point, though? why are ppl still on this "pushing things forward" approach. why is there still so much centrality given to it?

lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Friday, 10 December 2010 06:30 (six years ago) Permalink

like do the visual arts still rely on this linear idea of art history

lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Friday, 10 December 2010 06:33 (six years ago) Permalink

idk im out of my league in art critcism but it seems absurd that ppl would still cling to this idea of 'progress' instead of a messy topo-geographical sort of situation

lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Friday, 10 December 2010 06:34 (six years ago) Permalink

A hangover of dance music being "the sound of the future" X well it does care a lot about sound design X faster turnover of sonic trends than other genres, at least at its critically endorsed end X the progressive indiefication of all crit-focused dance music criticism.

At any rate the only reason I raised all of this was in answer to the question "why don't dance critics talk about 'Miami 2 Ibiza'" - I don't think this is a new thing.

The separate thread is what nakh refers to as the mid-00s convergence - when what was popular and what was critically endorsed were more interchangeable than before or after.

Tim F, Friday, 10 December 2010 06:43 (six years ago) Permalink

ahh. yeah i mean i was more wondering if there was any sort of entertainment crit out their for dance fans along the lines of, like, R&B fan blogs etc.

but maybe mainstream R&B just has a higher success rate

lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Friday, 10 December 2010 06:47 (six years ago) Permalink

this is a tricky way to generalize but i think that 'pop' dance tends to be more functional than aesthetic - not sure its really listened to often enough in the right context to provoke that kind of discussion

wld kinda love it if 'miami 2 ibizia' got repped in eoy lists tho

Lamp, Friday, 10 December 2010 07:01 (six years ago) Permalink

Pop female artists who I was hoping for would make it big this year vs. pop female artists that did made it and secretly hope they would flop:

Nina Sky YAY!
Kelis YAY!
Amerie YAY!
Cassie YAY!
VS
La Roux NAY!
Lady Gaga NAY!
Ke$ha NAY!
Robyn NAY!

Moka, Friday, 10 December 2010 07:21 (six years ago) Permalink

if its any consolation, robyn didn't really make it

in my world of young puppies (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 10 December 2010 07:22 (six years ago) Permalink

lol

gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Friday, 10 December 2010 07:23 (six years ago) Permalink

Well of course she didn't made it in the same degree as sat ke$ha or lady gaga but I did hear some of her songs on the radio this year frequently and I've heard my brother and his friends - who have a pretty mainstream taste and are my basis for what is becoming popular out there in the real world - playing her music on their gatherings. In any case she became more ubiquitious in my world than I expected her to be.

Moka, Friday, 10 December 2010 07:32 (six years ago) Permalink

While I'm at it Janelle Monae and YahZarah also deserved more attention this year. I get Janelle Monae was pretty popular amongst critics this year but it didn't feel to me like her singles 'tightrope' or 'cold war' made as much a popular stirring as they wanted them to or at least not where I come from... come to think of it I don't think I heard anyone drop Janelle Monae out of my room this year.

Moka, Friday, 10 December 2010 07:39 (six years ago) Permalink

Monae was the house band at the ESPY Awards, fwiw.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Friday, 10 December 2010 07:42 (six years ago) Permalink

Monae needs to be more famous than she is imo

in my world of young puppies (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 10 December 2010 07:43 (six years ago) Permalink

ESPYs also had waka doing live performances w/ a marching band, so someone there has good taste

gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Friday, 10 December 2010 07:43 (six years ago) Permalink

To be reductive, uk funky is "underground" enough that it's likely only going to be on the radar of dance music publications with an emphasis on explicitly (or purportedly) progressive/forward-slanted aesthetics, but doesn't chime in sufficiently with the other signifiers associated with that aesthetic(s) so as to generate much critical enthusiasm.

uk funky producers also DON'T RELEASE THEIR MUSIC, c'mon tim you can't pretend that's not a factor at all!

sadly the priority placed on forward-thinking aesthetics is something i can't deny that other critics employ, but a) w/r/t dance music that's something that is, as you hint, totally tied up with what's always driven actual dancefloors, which have to renew themselves every few years anyway, b) it's far from the only reason stuff gets critical momentum - look at how much dance music (azari & iii, house of house) gets praise for being retro-nostalgic.

also funky is a pretty bad example given that it DID get a ton of critical hype for fitting into exactly that forward-thinking aesthetic you describe and the actual sound hasn't got any less ~innovative~ - it's just retreated into itself as a scene.

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Friday, 10 December 2010 10:00 (six years ago) Permalink

Nina Sky YAY!
Kelis YAY!
Amerie YAY!
Cassie YAY!
VS
La Roux NAY!
Lady Gaga NAY!
Ke$ha NAY!
Robyn NAY!

i agree with all of these btw.

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Friday, 10 December 2010 10:00 (six years ago) Permalink

^likes black girls

o let's not do it and say we did (The Reverend), Friday, 10 December 2010 10:32 (six years ago) Permalink

nina sky are latina, right?

and kelis and amerie are both half-asian...and i think cassie's mixed too.

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Friday, 10 December 2010 10:48 (six years ago) Permalink

oh i was just repeating an old gabbneb post

o let's not do it and say we did (The Reverend), Friday, 10 December 2010 10:58 (six years ago) Permalink

that wasn't to be taken seriously

o let's not do it and say we did (The Reverend), Friday, 10 December 2010 10:58 (six years ago) Permalink

uk funky producers also DON'T RELEASE THEIR MUSIC, c'mon tim you can't pretend that's not a factor at all!

This is less the fault of the producers and more an issue with a complete lack of commercial infrastructure to support funky. There are still no UK funky record labels with any real profile or identity that I'm aware of - certainly no one that's immediately associable with the scene. This is unthinkable for any dance genre over two years old. It's no coincidence that the UK labels with the most critical momentum right now (Hyperdub, Night Slugs, Hessle Audio) are also the ones who are best at promoting and branding themselves and have really strong visual identities. Also yeah, mostly being white people probably helps as well.

also funky is a pretty bad example given that it DID get a ton of critical hype for fitting into exactly that forward-thinking aesthetic you describe and the actual sound hasn't got any less ~innovative~ - it's just retreated into itself as a scene.

I don't think it got THAT much critical hype, but hype's a double-edged sword for reasons I'll get into later. Having a stupid genre name doesn't help, but it doesn't really fit that classic forward thinking narrative very well. You can see it in the disttust and confusion it elicits in yer Simon Reynoldses and whatnot. The scene is entirely about socafied beats and tribal bangers, with other elements including pop songs worked into that framework.

But it's NOT self-consciously forward looking in the way that eg techno is, it's closer to the glammer end of high street house. The producers aren't interested in sounding futuristic, they're not particularly interested in "sound design" and the actual sonics are often pretty rudimentary - it's closer to grime in its ramshackle, DIY ethos than it is to dubstep. These are all things that are actually offputting to a lot of critics. It's the same mindset that caused the Brit press to go mad over the "forward thinking" Timbaland/Neps/Missy/Aaliyah rnb of the early 00s while ignoring, say, Teedra Moses. There's also a long-standing fear within parts of the dance press of being seen to rep too hard for anything that might be seen as too chavvy - FACT 2010 is similar to Jockey Slut 1999-2000 in that regard.

But yeah, I don't think being "retreating into itself" is necessarily a problem here an neither do you given you've been repping for Chicago juke this year. Scenes need time to develop out of the limelight. You look at the parallel development of grime and dubstep - grime was forced into the critical light too soon, way before it was ready, and it was met with a mixture of overhype and suspicion followed by confusion, ridicule, fear and suspicion. It collapsed into itself for years and then had to totally reinvent itself and go full-on commercial to get anywhere. Dubstep was allowed to grow more organically out of the glare and managed to gain solid ground-level support and grow organically and is now succceeding on its own terms. The latter's a much better blueprint for funky really.

This is all off the point really - the Mixmags of this world cover commercial dance a lot more than the online press do. Although I'd bet any money that Kanye wins their albums poll.

Matt DC, Friday, 10 December 2010 11:02 (six years ago) Permalink

Actually a quick look at the Mixmag site reveals big Swedish House Mafia/Deadmau5/Pascha banners and they've put fucking Calvin Harris and Will.i.am on the cover of late. I think it's safe to say they're comfortable with this stuff.

Matt DC, Friday, 10 December 2010 11:11 (six years ago) Permalink

Dagbladet (Norway)

INTERNATIONAL :

1. Kanye West «My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy»
2. Big Boi «Sir Lucious Left Foot: The Son of Chico Dusty»
3. Deerhunter «Halcyon Digest»
4. Robyn «Body Talk»
5. Janelle Monáe «The ArchAndroid»
6. Mary Gauthier «The Foundling»
7. AfroCubism «AfroCubism»
8. Best Coast «Crazy For You»
9. Håkan Hellström «2 steg från Paradise»
10. LCD Soundsystem «This Is Happening»
11. Deftones: «Diamond Eyes»
12. Dungen: «Skit i allt»
13. Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti: «Before Today»
14. The Besnard Lakes: «Are the Roaring Night»
15. Twin Shadow: «Forget»
16. Jamey Johnson: «The Guitar Song»
17. Charlotte Gainsbourg: «IRM»
18. Caribou: «Swim»
19. John Mellencamp: «No Better Than This»
20. Mavis Staples: «You Are Not Alone»
21. Neil Young: «Le Noise»
22. Arcade Fire: «The Suburbs»
23. Matthew Dear: «Black City»
24. Zola Jesus: «Stridulum II»
25. Robert Plant: «Band of Joy»
26. Beach House: «Teen Dream»
27. Justin Townes Earle: «Harlem River Blues»
28. Los Lobos: «Tin Can Trust»
29. The-Dream: «Love King»
30. Iron Maiden: «The Final Frontier»

NORWAY :

1. Kvelertak «Kvelertak»
2. Susanne Sundfør «The Brothel»
3. Motorpsycho «Heavy Metal Fruit»
4. Lars Vaular «Helt om natten, helt om dagen»
5. Serena Maneesh «S-M No 2: Abyss In B Minor»
6. Thomas Dybdahl «Waiting For That One Clear Moment»
7. Ost & Kjex «Cajun Lunch»
8. Hellbillies «Leite etter lykka»
9. Odd Nordstoga «November»
10. Kråkesølv «Bomtur til jorda»
11. Röyksopp «Senior»
12. Shining «Blackjazz»
13. Karpe Diem «Aldri solgt en løgn»
14. Frida Ånnevik «Synlige hjerteslag»
15. Narum «Ælt som var søkk borte»
16. Lindstrøm & Christabelle «Real Life Is No Cool»
17. Casiokids «Topp stemning på lokal bar»
18. Bjørn Eidsvåg «Rundt neste sving»
19. Grande «You Are The Night»
20. Kenneth Ishak & The Freedom Machines «Kenneth Ishak & The Freedom Machines»
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Mitchell Stirling, Friday, 10 December 2010 11:12 (six years ago) Permalink

ESPYs also had waka doing live performances w/ a marching band, so someone there has good taste

:D

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Friday, 10 December 2010 11:22 (six years ago) Permalink

Minor lol at Lindstrøm & Christabelle being the 16th best Norwegian album of the year...who are Kvelertak?

seandalai, Friday, 10 December 2010 11:32 (six years ago) Permalink

GEIR TO THREAD.

Matt DC, Friday, 10 December 2010 11:38 (six years ago) Permalink

Kvelertak are sort of somewhere between progressive metal and hardcore punk, sing in Norwegian have seen it pick up a few votes in metalheads lists.

Saw Susanne Sundfør perform in Brighton this summer, she was excellent The Brother is a lot more adventurous then the previous two albums.

Mitchell Stirling, Friday, 10 December 2010 11:39 (six years ago) Permalink

I guess the Norwegians know best themselves but I'm genuinely aggrieved that Arabrot aren't in that list. Likewise Shining.

Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Friday, 10 December 2010 12:37 (six years ago) Permalink

Except they are.

Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Friday, 10 December 2010 12:38 (six years ago) Permalink

Sorry.

Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Friday, 10 December 2010 12:38 (six years ago) Permalink

idk if Arabrot have that much domestic game, didn't get that impression when I've spoke to them... I mean Dagbladet is like one of the biggest daily papers right? Surprised-ish at Lindstrom but this time last year half of us were going "wow this should be 2010's crossover pop hit blah etc" and look where that got it

Princess BigSam (DJ Mencap), Friday, 10 December 2010 12:48 (six years ago) Permalink

Yeah, they're tiny aren't they? If it's any consolation I feel the same way when The News Of The World don't rep for Dethscalator in their end of year poll.

Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Friday, 10 December 2010 12:56 (six years ago) Permalink

FACT Magazine's Top 20 Tracks of the year:

20: INJA HLUNGWANI - ‘N’WAGEZANI MY LOVE’
19: AUTRE NE VEUT - ‘NEW DEPTH’
18: ENDGAMES - ‘ECSTASY’ (JAM CITY REFIX)
17: BIG BOI - ‘SHUTTERBUGG’
16: ADDISON GROOVE - ‘FOOTCRAB’
15: DEADBOY - ‘OFFICIAL GIRL’
14: FOREST SWORDS - ‘MIARCHES’
13: THE-DREAM - ‘YAMAHA’
12: ERIK & FIEDEL - ‘NOUS SOMMES MMM’
11: MATTHEW DEAR - ‘SLOWDANCE’
10: DRAKE feat. THE-DREAM - ‘SHUT IT DOWN’
09: KINK - ‘EXISTENCE’
08: PANTHA DU PRINCE feat. PANDA BEAR - ‘STICK TO MY SIDE’
07: ACTRESS - ‘MAZE’
06: JAMES BLAKE - ‘CMYK’
05: KANYE WEST feat. PUSHA T - 'RUNAWAY’
04: MOSCA - ‘SQUARE ONE’
03: DJ ZINC feat. MS. DYNAMITE -‘WILE OUT’
02: RAMADANMAN - ‘GLUT’
01: TEENGIRL FANTASY -‘CHEATERS’

Full Top 100 List on website

prolego, Friday, 10 December 2010 13:44 (six years ago) Permalink

The Midnight Magic/Jacques Renault record is a jam and the whole Permanent Vacation comp it comes from is ace.

didnt even realise there was a selected label works 2! why does no one tell me these things

just sayin, Friday, 10 December 2010 13:45 (six years ago) Permalink

Yamaha is too low, but respect for voting Wile Out so high. Whole list is a bit depressingly blokey and moody, although I find myself liking Ramadanman more and more and the Kink record at #9 is a straight-up banger.

Tim F I would strongly advise against reading the blurb for that Moscsa record!

(xpost Selected Label Works 2 is great but isn't quite up there with Vol. 1 but it does have Lauer's Delta NRG on it which is total hands-in-the-air awesomeness).

Matt DC, Friday, 10 December 2010 13:51 (six years ago) Permalink

Also that Deadboy treatment of Official Girl... hasn't poor Cassie suffered enough?

Matt DC, Friday, 10 December 2010 14:03 (six years ago) Permalink

fact 100 2010 spotify platlist. only 61/100, spotify's a bit rub

smoke on this^ one (cozen), Friday, 10 December 2010 14:46 (six years ago) Permalink

Kvelertak are sort of somewhere between progressive metal and hardcore punk, sing in Norwegian have seen it pick up a few votes in metalheads lists.

Decibel named that their #22 metal album of the year! And I thought their description sounded interesting: "...seamlessly synthesize the unlikely and disparate elements of refinery-burning garage rock, black metal, re-jigged Norwegian folk talkes sung in their native tongue and owls drawn by John Baizley." I thought #29, an EP by a Washington band called Christian Mistress, sounded potentially cool, too. But I'm getting real lazy when it comes to seeking out metal albums. Also I have no idea who John Baizley is.

xhuxk, Friday, 10 December 2010 15:18 (six years ago) Permalink

I like both the Kvelertak and Christian Mistress; check out "Mjød" by the former and "Black Vigil" by the latter on youtube. Well worth the few minutes that will take.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 10 December 2010 15:26 (six years ago) Permalink

Baizley is the singer from Baroness and he does the artwork for their albums, as well as tons of other bands - Torche, Darkest Hour, Kylesa, Black Tusk...

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 10 December 2010 15:28 (six years ago) Permalink

Oh, that guy! Duh. I like Baroness's album covers even more than their music (which is pretty good.)

xhuxk, Friday, 10 December 2010 15:33 (six years ago) Permalink

Yeah, his stuff is great.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 10 December 2010 15:36 (six years ago) Permalink

uk funky producers also DON'T RELEASE THEIR MUSIC, c'mon tim you can't pretend that's not a factor at all!

This isn't really true though. I sat down and worked out my top 60 or 70 uk funky tunes of the year last week and about two thirds to three quarters had been released. And, of course, of the remaining unreleased portion most do get released subsequently (hence "House Girls 1" ending up on Fact's list in 2010 not 2008).

Of course it would be rather churlish of me to expect obscure tunes that only I have trainspotted to be getting a lot of attention from people other than me.

Tim F I would strongly advise against reading the blurb for that Moscsa record!

I think I have pretty much numbed myself to this stuff now Matt, it's okay.

Ramadanman is great, yes. If Fact had to put a juke-inspired post-dubstep record at number 2 I'm glad it was "Glut" and not "Footcrab", the appeal of which is simply unfathomable to me.

Tim F, Friday, 10 December 2010 15:57 (six years ago) Permalink

"Footcrab"

even the name is terrible lol

lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Friday, 10 December 2010 16:03 (six years ago) Permalink

Pre-eminent example of hearing a record talked about in such glowing terms and being genuinely keen to hear it, and then... If the tune didn't go "FOOTCRAB FOOTCRAB FOOTCRAB" throughout I would have assumed I'd gotten a hold of the wrong tune by mistake.

Tim F, Friday, 10 December 2010 16:05 (six years ago) Permalink

*shatters test pressing of first production, "Crotchcricket"*

Andy K, Friday, 10 December 2010 16:08 (six years ago) Permalink

different from their yearly top list. top 50 downloads of the year. most downloaded tracks, that is. although i don't know who downloaded them or where they downloaded them from.

http://www.xlr8r.com/features/2010/12/grab-xlr8rs-top-50-downloads-201

http://www.xlr8r.com/features/2010/12/grab-xlr8rs-top-downloads-2010-p

scott seward, Friday, 10 December 2010 16:19 (six years ago) Permalink

Holy crap that Kvelertak is great! Between all the Norwegian bands and the HaandBryggeriet Norwegian Porter and Norwegian Wood beer I've had this week, this 1/8 Norwegian is achieving frequent tumescence.

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 10 December 2010 16:29 (six years ago) Permalink

Music OMH

http://www.musicomh.com/music/features/2010-top-50-albums-intro_1110.htm

50. Gold Panda - Lucky Shiner
49. Bryan Ferry - Olympia
48. Liars - Sisterworld
47. Hot Chip - One Life Stand
46. Everything Everything - Man Alive
45. Mulatu Astatke - Mulatu Steps Ahead
44. Wild Nothing - Gemini
43. Villagers - Becoming A Jackal
42. Nedry - Condors
41. These New Puritans - Hidden
40. Allo Darlin' - Allo Darlin'
39. The Walkmen - Lisbon
38. Sleigh Bells - Treat
37. Laura Marling - I Speak Because I Can
36. Titus Andronicus - The Monitor
35. The Irrepressibles - Mirror Mirror
34. Marnie Stern - Marnie Stern
33. Crystal Castles - Crystal Castles
32. Phosphorescent - Here's To Taking It Easy
31. 65daysofstatic - We Were Exploding Anyway
30. Pantha Du Prince - Black Noise
29. Stornoway - Beachcomber's Windowsill
28. Bellowhead - Hedonism
27. Jaga Jazzist - One Armed Bandit
26. Gil Scott-Heron - I'm New Here
25. Big Boi - Sir Lucious Left Foot: The Son Of Chico Dusty
24. Best Coast - Crazy For You
23. Grinderman - Grinderman 2
22. Owen Pallett - Heartland
21. Menomena - Mines
20. Field Music - Field Music (Measure)
19. Surfer Blood - Astro Coast
18. Edwyn Collins - Losing Sleep
17. Joanna Newsom - Have One On Me
16. Vampire Weekend - Contra
15. Warpaint - The Fool
14. Jónsi - Go
13. Yeasayer - Odd Blood
12. Kanye West - My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
11. Gorillaz - Plastic Beach
10. John Grant with Midlake - Queen Of Denmark
09. Four Tet - There Is Love In You
08. Foals - Total Life Forever
07. Deerhunter - Halcyon Digest
06. LCD Soundsystem - This Is Happening
05. Beach House - Teen Dream
04. Caribou - Swim
03. Janelle Monáe - The ArchAndroid
02. Arcade Fire - The Suburbs
01. The National - High Violet

Mitchell Stirling, Friday, 10 December 2010 16:36 (six years ago) Permalink

IIRC Nedry is nice enough but not something I imagined being on anyone's year-end list.

BO (DJP), Friday, 10 December 2010 16:37 (six years ago) Permalink

Not that I care, because I don't like them, but I thought that Of Montreal album was going to show up more. Did that get panned a lot?

bourgeoistech bourgeoisthèque (_Rudipherous_), Friday, 10 December 2010 16:38 (six years ago) Permalink

it is kind of 'mad confusing' why ppl w/ the exact same taste as 100 other publications feel the need to publish a magazine at all.

lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Friday, 10 December 2010 16:38 (six years ago) Permalink

to think i used to find jazz times / down beat duopoly redundent

lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Friday, 10 December 2010 16:39 (six years ago) Permalink

redundant

lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Friday, 10 December 2010 16:39 (six years ago) Permalink

more like Music SMH

in my world of young puppies (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 10 December 2010 16:39 (six years ago) Permalink

is it actually worth checking out Deerhunter and The National? I've pretty much avoided them on GP.

BO (DJP), Friday, 10 December 2010 16:41 (six years ago) Permalink

I honestly couldn't think of a band less worth anyone's time than The National

in my world of young puppies (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 10 December 2010 16:43 (six years ago) Permalink

pretty much all this points out is that lists by committee (ie lists made by combining a bunch of lists from individual critics) are inevitably going to be safe and boring (duh) and that the individual critic lists are going to be more interesting on their own because they allow for personal tastes/idiosyncracies

congratulations (n/a), Friday, 10 December 2010 16:43 (six years ago) Permalink

dan I'm guessing based on what I know about your musical tastes that you might like some Deerhunter songs and probably would not like the National, but obviously I could be wrong

congratulations (n/a), Friday, 10 December 2010 16:44 (six years ago) Permalink

xpost, Has anyone said "I wish Pitchfork would publishe individual writers lists" yet, because I love how that chestnut of insight comes back every year like the groundhog seeing his shadow

in my world of young puppies (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 10 December 2010 16:45 (six years ago) Permalink

I am listening to "Helicopter" by Deerhunter and sort of wonder exactly what the distinction between these guys and Owl City is

okay the chorus is much better but, um, the verses are kind of cloying

BO (DJP), Friday, 10 December 2010 16:47 (six years ago) Permalink

they're supposed to be a "pop" band too.

Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 10 December 2010 16:48 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah the new Deerhunter album is more pop, you'd probably like their earlier albums more? I don't know, I find them listenable but pretty boring overall.

congratulations (n/a), Friday, 10 December 2010 16:49 (six years ago) Permalink

pretty much all this points out is that lists by committee (ie lists made by combining a bunch of lists from individual critics) are inevitably going to be safe and boring (duh) and that the individual critic lists are going to be more interesting on their own because they allow for personal tastes/idiosyncracies

― congratulations (n/a), Friday, December 10, 2010 10:43 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah but you can at least cultivate a group of critics who overlap in more interesting ways than 'what other critics are covering.' i mean, downbeat's list is unlikely to include sleigh bells right? will the source feel obligated to include the national? these are extreme examples, & as much crap as ive given FACT for just incorporating pitchfork values to dance music, at least they serve an audience that doesnt have that attention otherwise, like, they have a reason to exist

lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Friday, 10 December 2010 16:49 (six years ago) Permalink

pitchfork used to publish the individual lists tho didnt they? i thought it was just recently they stopped doing it

just sayin, Friday, 10 December 2010 16:49 (six years ago) Permalink

"Bloodbuzz Ohio" by The National starts out with some really nice drums and then drowns them in wannabe Coldplay. Sorry guys, but I heard Editors first.

BO (DJP), Friday, 10 December 2010 16:50 (six years ago) Permalink

xpost we should really talk about that in depth as no one ever brings that crucial detail up in these threads year after year

in my world of young puppies (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 10 December 2010 16:50 (six years ago) Permalink

pitchfork should publish the individual lists, i want to know what those guys think!!

lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Friday, 10 December 2010 16:51 (six years ago) Permalink

so neither Deerhunter nor The National appears to be outright offensive but I can't really envision the universal itch they apparently scratch given their presence on so many of these lists

BO (DJP), Friday, 10 December 2010 16:52 (six years ago) Permalink

Exactly.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 10 December 2010 16:52 (six years ago) Permalink

xpost well what im saying is that it's weird ppl would bring that up year after year, when pitchfork published individual lists in 2007 at least.. i mean how many years do you mean by 'year after year'

just sayin, Friday, 10 December 2010 16:53 (six years ago) Permalink

like, as much as I am not a fan of Joanna Newsom, I at least understand what makes her stand out; these guys seem to be the definition of "band you've heard before only with sharper publicists"

BO (DJP), Friday, 10 December 2010 16:53 (six years ago) Permalink

(lol ITT DJP answers his own questions)

BO (DJP), Friday, 10 December 2010 16:54 (six years ago) Permalink

arent the national fairly popular w indie fans? & ive been seeing the name 'deerhunter' on critics lists forever

lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Friday, 10 December 2010 16:55 (six years ago) Permalink

by 'popular w/ indie fans' i mean in the sense that, like, they'll sell way more records than whatever indie buzz artist is big this yr

lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Friday, 10 December 2010 16:55 (six years ago) Permalink

The National isn't really a "jumps out at you on first listen" kind of band, they have a boring sound but some of their songs are really strong and they grow on you after a while. That being said, their new album is not as good as their last two and I think a lot of the votes for it are just residual good feelings for Boxer and Alligator.

congratulations (n/a), Friday, 10 December 2010 16:55 (six years ago) Permalink

they're essentially indie rock comfort food

congratulations (n/a), Friday, 10 December 2010 16:57 (six years ago) Permalink

which isn't a put-down

congratulations (n/a), Friday, 10 December 2010 16:58 (six years ago) Permalink

I think you need to listen to more than just "Helicopter" to get a feel for what Deerhunter does. In fact, I'm not sure why that particular track is getting so much attention (outside of it being the "single") because I can think of 4-5 better tracks on the new album. Try "Desire Lines" for a good taste of the band's talent.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 10 December 2010 16:58 (six years ago) Permalink

I can see The National growing on me, but not in a "best of the year" way. (Deerhunter does have more potential in that regard even if my first impression of that song was more negative.)

Listening to "The Suburbs" by Arcade Fire and I would likely have more time for them if they had a different singer.

BO (DJP), Friday, 10 December 2010 16:58 (six years ago) Permalink

title track of the Foals album is surprisingly enjoyable tho!

BO (DJP), Friday, 10 December 2010 16:59 (six years ago) Permalink

lol and of course Four Tet

BO (DJP), Friday, 10 December 2010 17:02 (six years ago) Permalink

they're essentially indie rock comfort food

― congratulations (n/a), Friday, December 10, 2010 11:57 AM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I'll agree with this sentiment and will add that if you actually need this in your life, recheck your priorities imho.

in my world of young puppies (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 10 December 2010 17:03 (six years ago) Permalink

I like the Foals album a lot. And Whiney, you are dangerously close to climbing back up on your self-righteous soapbox.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 10 December 2010 17:04 (six years ago) Permalink

Indie rock comfort food:

"what a day. i wish i could settle into my ikea couch while some boring, bearded people could croon insipid, flavorless pseudo-intellectual pap at me to simultaneously reinforce my feelings of smugness and remind me of my place of white privilege."

in my world of young puppies (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 10 December 2010 17:06 (six years ago) Permalink

***holding tongue***

lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Friday, 10 December 2010 17:07 (six years ago) Permalink

flocka flocka bow bow bow

in my world of young puppies (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 10 December 2010 17:07 (six years ago) Permalink

Oh for the love of god just shut the fuck up. No one actually cares what you have to say and you have never once been funny.

Matt DC, Friday, 10 December 2010 17:09 (six years ago) Permalink

quiet everyone, the twitter rock critic is going to teach us about "white privilege"

congratulations (n/a), Friday, 10 December 2010 17:12 (six years ago) Permalink

Is there any way one of the coders can add a feature so that Whiney and Deej can't ever post on the same thread again?

Matt DC, Friday, 10 December 2010 17:12 (six years ago) Permalink

in fairness to deej he had nothing to do with this current iteration of Whiney cluelessness

BO (DJP), Friday, 10 December 2010 17:14 (six years ago) Permalink

the content of my 'post' was 'im saying nothing' fyi

lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Friday, 10 December 2010 17:16 (six years ago) Permalink

first time for everything

in my world of young puppies (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 10 December 2010 17:17 (six years ago) Permalink

lol, i'm sorry i'm being such a troll on this thread this morning, i'll stop

in my world of young puppies (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 10 December 2010 17:17 (six years ago) Permalink

the latest turn of this thread is like a morning cup of coffee

i feel like i can start my day now

gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Friday, 10 December 2010 17:51 (six years ago) Permalink

anyway

as much as i love the deadboy remix of "fireworks" the "official girl" remix is pretty dreadful as matt attests

gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Friday, 10 December 2010 17:54 (six years ago) Permalink

it's funny that it seems like everyone agreed in the kanye thread this was a record w/ no singles, and yet here we are & every list is putting "power" or "runaway" (this one is esp rmde to me) in their top 10s

i'll big up fact for "shut it down" tho, that's a jam (altho as is typical w/ a small percentage of r&b nowadays, the leaked version was better than the one that ended up on the album)

gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Friday, 10 December 2010 17:55 (six years ago) Permalink

has that hot chip album made a lot of lists, im too lazy to look. Sort of craptacular that.

Let me explore your musky garden. (chrisv2010), Friday, 10 December 2010 17:56 (six years ago) Permalink

it's their best album!

gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Friday, 10 December 2010 17:56 (six years ago) Permalink

i think runaway makes more sense as a single to vote for! its weird in line w/ the rest of the album, and def feels less generic, for all its flaws, than 'pwer'

lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Friday, 10 December 2010 17:57 (six years ago) Permalink

if youre the kind of person who likes the album then 'runaway' is def the kind of song you would be feeling, is what im saying

lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Friday, 10 December 2010 17:58 (six years ago) Permalink

^^^ this rings true

BO (DJP), Friday, 10 December 2010 17:59 (six years ago) Permalink

remind me of my place of white privilege

i don't really like the nat'l much. but why, exactly, do you say their music "reinforces its audiences' notions about white privilege"?

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 10 December 2010 18:01 (six years ago) Permalink

i think mainly i dislike it cuz it ain't really my bag.

Let me explore your musky garden. (chrisv2010), Friday, 10 December 2010 18:01 (six years ago) Permalink

oh, sorry, didn't see your "i'm being a troll" post above.

xp to myself, i guess.

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 10 December 2010 18:01 (six years ago) Permalink

i feel like everyone just anointed "runaway" after the vmas but it's really one of the least exciting songs on the CD

w/ "power" i at least grasp the bigness of it, even if i don't think the song is really all that

gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Friday, 10 December 2010 18:02 (six years ago) Permalink

Yeah, "Power" feels so much more like a single to me that "Runaway".

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 10 December 2010 18:06 (six years ago) Permalink

TIME

Top 10 Albums

* Kanye West, My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
* Arcade Fire, The Suburbs
* LCD Soundsystem, This Is Happening
* The National, High Violet
* Drake, Thank Me Later
* Sufjan Stevens, Age of Adz
* The Black Keys, Brothers
* Yeasayer, Odd Blood
* Big Boi, Sir Lucious Left Foot: The Son of Chico Dusty
* Beach House, Teen Dream

Mitchell Stirling, Friday, 10 December 2010 18:11 (six years ago) Permalink

a bold stance

in my world of young puppies (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 10 December 2010 18:14 (six years ago) Permalink

I can see why people would be going apeshit for Beach House but really this is not my bag at all.

Basically I would play this if I wanted to psych myself up into a stabbing fury, only I would then run out and stab Beach House.

BO (DJP), Friday, 10 December 2010 18:14 (six years ago) Permalink

not going near Sufjan because lol Sufjan, my opinion on him is very clear and unlikely to change unless someone replaces him with, like, Fluke

BO (DJP), Friday, 10 December 2010 18:15 (six years ago) Permalink

why do the kings of leon make these lists.

these lists need more Drums.

Let me explore your musky garden. (chrisv2010), Friday, 10 December 2010 18:19 (six years ago) Permalink

wow I hate The Black Keys a lot, too

I thought I sort of liked them...? Or am I thinking of The Black Kids?

oh no, I just played the wrong song, "Tighten Up" is the one I sort of like

BO (DJP), Friday, 10 December 2010 18:20 (six years ago) Permalink

i agree, but why did you capitalize drums? (xpost)

some dude, Friday, 10 December 2010 18:21 (six years ago) Permalink

those Black bands all look alike to you, huh

some dude, Friday, 10 December 2010 18:21 (six years ago) Permalink

okay I feel compelled to adore Yeasayer just for this video:

xp: and THAT's how we alley-oop *high-five*

BO (DJP), Friday, 10 December 2010 18:23 (six years ago) Permalink

as a long time black keys fan, this album is meh for me. i guess i only like thickfreakness and the big come up.

and i agree with Dan on the Deerhunter....don't get it.

Let me explore your musky garden. (chrisv2010), Friday, 10 December 2010 18:24 (six years ago) Permalink

top 20 tracks list, courtesy of a lolindie friend of mine --

20. Crystal Castles - I Am Made of Chalk
19. Drake - Karaoke
18. Deerhunter - Desire Lines
17. Sleigh Bells - Rill Rill
16. Ruby Suns - Closet Astrologer
15. Future Islands - In the Fall
14. Justin Beiber - U Smile (800% slower)
13. Cee-lo Green - No One's Gonna Love You
12. The Cults - Go Outside
11. Toro y Moi - Blessa
10. Best Coast - When I'm With You
9. Wavves - Linus Spacehead
8. Broken Bells - High Road
7. Atlas Sound - Mona Lisa
6. Surfer Blood - Swim
5. Small Black - Search Party
4. Crystal Castles - Empathy
3. JJ - My Life
2. Beach House - Silver Soul
1. Deerhunter - Helicopter

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Friday, 10 December 2010 18:42 (six years ago) Permalink

It's markers list?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 10 December 2010 18:44 (six years ago) Permalink

14. Justin Beiber - U Smile (800% slower)

OUT

BO (DJP), Friday, 10 December 2010 18:47 (six years ago) Permalink

Beiber
Beiber
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Beiber
Beiber
Beiber
Beiber
Beiber
Beiber
Beiber
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i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Friday, 10 December 2010 18:48 (six years ago) Permalink

lol, i'm sorry i'm being such a troll on this thread this morning, i'll stop

― in my world of young puppies (Whiney G. Weingarten)

omar little, Friday, 10 December 2010 18:49 (six years ago) Permalink

bieber > wavves

prolego, Friday, 10 December 2010 18:50 (six years ago) Permalink

the original "u smile" > most everything on that list

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Friday, 10 December 2010 18:52 (six years ago) Permalink

I definitely would have had Voice Of The Seven Thunders in my end of year lists had I heard it at the time. Starting the depressing business of finding out what else I've missed today.

Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Saturday, 11 December 2010 12:33 (six years ago) Permalink

Doran, Voice of the Seven Thunders is my number 1 for the year. Amazing record, and having months and months with it only makes it better.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 11 December 2010 12:44 (six years ago) Permalink

Yeah, someone played it to me at ATP and sheared the top of my head off.

Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Saturday, 11 December 2010 12:50 (six years ago) Permalink

Hmmm, checking out "The Burning Mountain" and immediately liking the middle eastern flavored electric guitar.

bourgeoistech bourgeoisthèque (_Rudipherous_), Saturday, 11 December 2010 12:54 (six years ago) Permalink

try "Kommune"

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 11 December 2010 12:55 (six years ago) Permalink

I'm going to try the whole album. That song was the only one on their myspace.

bourgeoistech bourgeoisthèque (_Rudipherous_), Saturday, 11 December 2010 13:08 (six years ago) Permalink

It's all on youtube.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 11 December 2010 13:09 (six years ago) Permalink

http://www.philadelphiaweekly.com/music/What-Your-Favorite-Albums-Say-About-You.html

Kinda stupid but whatever.

President Keyes, Saturday, 11 December 2010 15:04 (six years ago) Permalink

Very stupid.

bourgeoistech bourgeoisthèque (_Rudipherous_), Saturday, 11 December 2010 15:09 (six years ago) Permalink

i laughed. well, maybe not LAUGHED...

scott seward, Saturday, 11 December 2010 15:40 (six years ago) Permalink

do you miss the philadelphia weekly, rockist?

scott seward, Saturday, 11 December 2010 15:40 (six years ago) Permalink

what's joey sweeney up to?

scott seward, Saturday, 11 December 2010 15:40 (six years ago) Permalink

i still kinda can't get over robert downey jr. playing my old pal steve lopez in a movie. too bad i will never ever watch that movie. but i have lots of love for steve.

scott seward, Saturday, 11 December 2010 15:42 (six years ago) Permalink

do you miss the philadelphia weekly, rockist?

No. Don't tell me you do.

I miss having a CVS on every corner though.

bourgeoistech bourgeoisthèque (_Rudipherous_), Saturday, 11 December 2010 15:44 (six years ago) Permalink

i miss wawa.

scott seward, Saturday, 11 December 2010 15:46 (six years ago) Permalink

oh, and my friends.

scott seward, Saturday, 11 December 2010 15:47 (six years ago) Permalink

i haven't been back since i moved. so that's like...almost 8 years? my whole life was there. it wasn't much of a life, but it was there.

scott seward, Saturday, 11 December 2010 15:49 (six years ago) Permalink

there was some other piece exactly like that this year that was actually kind of otm iirc?

mercy mercy me, that beanfield milagro (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 11 December 2010 15:49 (six years ago) Permalink

if i were 20 that whole thing would be otm. which is why i still find it kinda funny. cuz a part of me will always be 20. the dumb part.

scott seward, Saturday, 11 December 2010 15:50 (six years ago) Permalink

I don't really miss Wawa or The Welcomat. (Is there even still a Welcomat?)

Anyway, I can see how a piece like that might be potentially funny, if it had punchlines. Thing is, I did not realize Hold Steady (hey, there's a band conspicuously missing from all the year-end lists, right? deservedly, but still) were considered a frat-house band. Is that really what their audience is now? When did that happen? Or did that guy just make that up? I assumed their audience was still mostly considered "rock critics."

Pretty sure Xgau said the Roots album is his favorite of the year, fwiw. And he's not even from Philly!

xhuxk, Saturday, 11 December 2010 18:26 (six years ago) Permalink

i think welcomat got changed to the weekly.

scott seward, Saturday, 11 December 2010 18:34 (six years ago) Permalink

i don't really miss philly that much. i did consider it my home though. i moved there when i was 19 and when i left i was in my 30s and married with a kid. i mostly just remember working a lot and drinking too much. and i left before i could hang out with any philly ilx people. but most of them left too!

scott seward, Saturday, 11 December 2010 18:40 (six years ago) Permalink

greenfield will be my final resting place. i love it here so much. and you can all come and visit me. my door is always open. except when i'm closed. well, most of you can come visit me...

scott seward, Saturday, 11 December 2010 18:42 (six years ago) Permalink

oh but anyway i always forget that interpol are still around. who listens to them? are they big in japan?

scott seward, Saturday, 11 December 2010 18:42 (six years ago) Permalink

M.I.A. gone M.I.A.?

Saytin Saytin Saytin (Ioannis), Saturday, 11 December 2010 18:44 (six years ago) Permalink

i just tried to listen to new interpol on youtube. didn't last long. what happened to that guy's voice?

scott seward, Saturday, 11 December 2010 18:46 (six years ago) Permalink

btw, grapevine sez xhuxk's voting Kanye no. one p&j-wise.

Saytin Saytin Saytin (Ioannis), Saturday, 11 December 2010 19:12 (six years ago) Permalink

As long as this thread is derailed, I'm still not sure where you are scott. Where is Greenfield? There seems to be more than one.

bourgeoistech bourgeoisthèque (_Rudipherous_), Saturday, 11 December 2010 19:16 (six years ago) Permalink

greenfield is in massachusetts. western mass. near northampton and amherst. and near vermont. and near new hampshire.

scott seward, Saturday, 11 December 2010 19:37 (six years ago) Permalink

i actually have chuck's top five albums for the pazz & jop this year. i know he's gonna kill me, but they are so good and nobody has really talked about them here. i hope he doesn't get too mad:

1. Johnny Truck & The Motormouths – Hardly Workin’ (Countryfried Records)
2. Louella Hudsucker – Kountry Kweenz & Stone-washed Jeanz (Doowrong Records)
3. Pud Wilkinson & The Homewreckers – Same Shit, Different day (CD Baby)
4. Los Perros Sucios – Lio Partido Loco (Idiota Hijo Records)
5. The Shipyard Scene: Forgotten Pub Rock Relics From The Vuosaari Harbor Region Of East Helsinki 1972-1974 (Stone Drag Reissue)

scott seward, Saturday, 11 December 2010 19:41 (six years ago) Permalink

Man, WikiLeaks wrecks everything!

Thing you gotta understand about Kanye, though, is it's a concept album. By which I mean it directly references both "21st Century Schizoid Man" and "Iron Man", two songs that at least one person older than me told me he actually used to confuse back in 1971. How did Kanye know??

Seriously though my real Pazz & Jop #1 was listed on that list-of-everybody's-#1s link from Awl, and I will be really sad if I turn out to be the only voter who gives it 30 points (unless I only give it 25, I'm starting to waver a little.)

xhuxk, Saturday, 11 December 2010 19:47 (six years ago) Permalink

The Shipyard Scene: Forgotten Pub Rock Relics From The Vuosaari Harbor Region Of East Helsinki 1972-1974 (Stone Drag Reissue)

But okay, I totally want this one now.

xhuxk, Saturday, 11 December 2010 19:48 (six years ago) Permalink

wuz gonna say - no Seeger, no thang.

You're Twistin' My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy Man! (Ioannis), Saturday, 11 December 2010 19:52 (six years ago) Permalink

and I will be really sad if I turn out to be the only voter who gives it 30 points

Why would you expect P&J voters to vote for bob seger as #1 album in 2010?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 11 December 2010 19:59 (six years ago) Permalink

i'm voting for it. thanks for reminding me.

scott seward, Saturday, 11 December 2010 20:00 (six years ago) Permalink

Why would you expect P&J voters to vote for bob seger as #1 album in 2010?

Good taste, maybe? (Okay, maybe too much to ask.)

xhuxk, Saturday, 11 December 2010 20:04 (six years ago) Permalink

haha it is the P&J!

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 11 December 2010 20:06 (six years ago) Permalink

I suppose it would make a change from indie landfill or the big mainstream pop/rock. Everyone vote bob seger as #1 in a protest vote!

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 11 December 2010 20:07 (six years ago) Permalink

If Chris Bohn's opening on-air remarks on Resonant FM the other night are anything to go by, then The Wire's Rewind 2010 #1 is ACTRESS - Splazsh! Big ups all around IMHO...

Don't Make Me A Burrito (Craig D.), Saturday, 11 December 2010 22:10 (six years ago) Permalink

Here's a fun list - our own Phil (Unperson)'s best 40 and worst 10 metal:

http://social.entertainment.msn.com/music/blogs/headbang-blog.aspx

Fastnbulbous, Sunday, 12 December 2010 01:47 (six years ago) Permalink

kinda want to hear that ov hell album now.

scott seward, Sunday, 12 December 2010 02:34 (six years ago) Permalink

and hating on van canto is too easy. they are...something. i mean, they DO have some sort of vision. there are records that are spectacularly bad. but they're a spectacle as music group.

scott seward, Sunday, 12 December 2010 02:38 (six years ago) Permalink

i like the best list though! superior album covers too. i want to hear a bunch on there. phil might be crazy, but he's got some good picks on there for a pantera fan.

scott seward, Sunday, 12 December 2010 02:42 (six years ago) Permalink

That Ov Hell album isn't really awful, just plain boring. Its like black metal by numbers.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Sunday, 12 December 2010 02:54 (six years ago) Permalink

Classic Rock EOY 2010 - top 50 albums

50. Buckcherry - All Night Long
49. Spirits Of The Dead - s/t
48. Brijitte West & the Desperate Hopefuls - s/t
47. JP, Chrissie & the Fairground Boys - Fidelity!
46. Grinderman - Grinderman 2
45. Elton John & Leonard Russel - The Union
44. Deftones - Diamond Eyes
43. Eric Clapton - s/t
42. Meat Loaf - Hang Cool Teadybear
41. Ronnie Wood - I Feel Like Playing
40. Imelda May - Mayhem
39. Steven Dale Petit - The Crave
38. Voodoo Six - Fluke?
37. Halford - Halford IV : Made of Metal
36. Tinyfish - The Big Red Spark
35. Siant Jude - Diary of a Soul Fiend
34. Night Horse - Perdition Hymns
33. Down - Diary of a Mad Band
32. Joe Bonamassa - Black Rock
31. Steeple - Wolf People
30. Black Label Society - Order of the Black
29. The Hold Steady - Heaven is Whenever
28. Foxy Shazam - s/t
27. Paul Weller - Wake up the Nation
26. Heart - Red Velvet Car
25. Scorpions - Sting in the Tale
24. FM - Metropolis
23. Mastermind - Monster Magnet
22. Audrey Horne - s/t
21. Unruly Child - World's Collide
20. Ratt - Infestation
19. Anathema - We're Here...
18. Manic Street Preachers - Postcards From A Young Man
17. Airbourne - No Guts, No Glory
16. Neil Young - Le Noise
15. Accept - Blood of the Nations
14. Drive-By Truckers - The Big To-Do
13. Altar Bridge - ABIII
12. Cathedral - The Guessing Game
11. Ozzy Osborne - Scream
10. Killing Joke - Absolute Dissent
9. The Gaslight Anthem - American Slang
8. Jim Jones Revue - Burning your House Down
7. Iron Maiden - The Final Frontier
6. The Black Keys - Brothers
5. The Union - s/t
4. Robert Plant - Band of Joy
3. Black Country Communion - Black Country
2. Them Crooked Vultures - s/t
1. Slash - s/t

Mitchell Stirling, Sunday, 12 December 2010 13:12 (six years ago) Permalink

Slash? freakin' Slash? is this 1993 or what?

You're Twistin' My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy Man! (Ioannis), Sunday, 12 December 2010 13:31 (six years ago) Permalink

^has never read Classic Rock magazine

Princess BigSam (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 12 December 2010 14:23 (six years ago) Permalink

nice to see a list with the Chrissie Hynde record on it, it's got some killer tunes. also appreciate learning that Meat oaf released an album called "Hang Cool Teddy Bear" this year apparently.

some dude, Sunday, 12 December 2010 16:10 (six years ago) Permalink

lmfao @ "Meat oaf"

da puppier (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 12 December 2010 16:10 (six years ago) Permalink

haha Meat oaf (xpost)

some dude, Sunday, 12 December 2010 16:13 (six years ago) Permalink

ha! great unintentional -- but accurate -- description.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 12 December 2010 16:25 (six years ago) Permalink

^has never read Classic Rock magazine

haw, no i haven't. and apparently it's where the ROCK '70s/'80s went to die--sure seems to be gettin' mighty ripe around about there, too.

You're Twistin' My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy Man! (Ioannis), Sunday, 12 December 2010 17:32 (six years ago) Permalink

lol the one album in there I have been loudly stanning for since late summer ('Steeple' by Wolf People) they get the band and title backwards :(

Princess BigSam (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 12 December 2010 18:55 (six years ago) Permalink

These are both good (in fact, Ratt's album has shown up on a couple other lists I've seen, incuding Phil's metal one):

26. Heart - Red Velvet Car
20. Ratt - Infestation

But the FM who made Metropolis (#24) unfortunately turn out to not to be the same keyboard-heavy Canadian guitarless AOR/pomp power-trio who put out City Of Fear in 1980, but rather some British people.

xhuxk, Sunday, 12 December 2010 19:26 (six years ago) Permalink

this is actually my fave album by FM, but its kinda hard to find.

scott seward, Sunday, 12 December 2010 19:28 (six years ago) Permalink

the old FM.

scott seward, Sunday, 12 December 2010 19:28 (six years ago) Permalink

Good old Classic Rock. You always know where you are with a Classic Rock list.

Matt DC, Sunday, 12 December 2010 22:44 (six years ago) Permalink

1970?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 12 December 2010 22:45 (six years ago) Permalink

8. Jim Jones Revue - Burning your House Down

Good to see this turn up somewhere, it's a blast and massively underrated, if a bit hammy in places.

Matt DC, Sunday, 12 December 2010 22:49 (six years ago) Permalink

It's not quite up there with Classic Rock's list from 2008:

10. Motley Crue - Saints Of Los Angeles
9. Journey - Revelation
8. Big Linda - I Loved You
7. Whitesnake - Good To Be Bad
6. Def Leppard - Songs From The Sparkle Lounge
5. Airbourne - Runnin' Wild
4. Black Stone Cherry - Folklore & Superstition
3. Guns N' Roses - Chinese Democracy
2. Metallica - Death Magnetic
1. AC/DC - Black Ice

^^^ Does exactly what is says on the tin.

Matt DC, Sunday, 12 December 2010 22:52 (six years ago) Permalink

Whitesnake!!!!

seandalai, Sunday, 12 December 2010 22:56 (six years ago) Permalink

Honestly willing to believe that Classic Rock list is better than most of the lists we've seen on this thread.

Matt DC, Sunday, 12 December 2010 23:02 (six years ago) Permalink

As long as you need ever hear any of the albums?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 12 December 2010 23:03 (six years ago) Permalink

One of my favorite's of the year is on that Classic Rock list. In fact, the album I'm voting #1 in the metal poll is on it.

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 12 December 2010 23:04 (six years ago) Permalink

i like that the classic rock list doesnt feel the need to incorporate albums outside its milieu just because theyre critically acclaimed. no kanye, no arcade fire, no bullshit

lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Sunday, 12 December 2010 23:07 (six years ago) Permalink

lol that Hold Steady fits perfectly in that list. Wonder why the Walkmen and the National arent jockeying for posish too

da puppier (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 12 December 2010 23:10 (six years ago) Permalink

I've written for Classic Rock for about seven years (I'm mainly their go to guy for "mad stuff" like The Fall) and if I voted for albums outside its milieu (say Fabric55 by Shackleton for the LOLs) they would probably consider it a sacking offence. Quite right too.

Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Sunday, 12 December 2010 23:31 (six years ago) Permalink

Xhuxk OTM about the Heart album!!!!! It soundtracked my 1,000 trips to the storage unit during our move this summer, and the 999 trips back.

T Bone Streep (Cave17Matt), Monday, 13 December 2010 05:25 (six years ago) Permalink

Soon going to have to do a list of my top 101 albums of the year, many of which are unsurprisingly not here. LOL do people still read blogs?

T Bone Streep (Cave17Matt), Monday, 13 December 2010 05:26 (six years ago) Permalink

If viacom hadn't removed all The State's MTV skits from youtube, the "Slash" sketch would have been a nice video right about here.

billstevejim, Monday, 13 December 2010 05:50 (six years ago) Permalink

All of these lists are so good. Can't wait to see more.

billstevejim, Monday, 13 December 2010 05:51 (six years ago) Permalink

Would read again.

billstevejim, Monday, 13 December 2010 06:05 (six years ago) Permalink

Pitchfork Top 100 Tracks of 2010
numbers 100-51:

100. These New Puritans - "We Want War"
99. Gayngs - "The Gaudy Side of Town"
98. Male Bonding - "Year's Not Long"
97. Ramadanman - "Don't Change for Me"
96. Diplomats - "Salute"
95. Ty Segall - "Girlfriend"
94. Kelis - "Acapella"
93. Freddie Gibbs - "National Anthem (Fuck the World)"
92. Matthew Dear - "You Put a Smell on Me"
91. Liars - "Scarecrows on a Killer Slant"
90. Abe Vigoda - "Crush"
89. Usher [ft. Nicki Minaj] - "Lil Freak"
88. DOM - "Burn Bridges"
87. Perfume Genius - "Mr. Peterson"
86. Glasser - "Apply"
85. Wavves - "Post Acid"
84. Gil Scott-Heron - "New York Is Killing Me"
83. Surfer Blood - "Floating Vibes"
82. Spoon - "Written in Reverse"
81. Forest Swords - "Rattling Cage"
80. The Radio Dept. - "Heaven's on Fire"
79. Delorean - "Real Love"
78. Die Antwoord - "Enter the Ninja"
77. Rihanna [ft. Drake] - "What's My Name?"
76. Here We Go Magic - "Collector"
75. Toro Y Moi - "Blessa"
74. Sade - "Soldier of Love"
73. Wild Nothing - "Chinatown"
72. No Age - "Glitter"
71. Salem - "King Night"
70. NDF - "Since We Last Met"
69. Woods - "Suffering Season"
68. Kingdom [ft. Shyvonne] - "Mind Reader"
67. Drake - "Over"
66. The National - "Bloodbuzz Ohio"
65. Dum Dum Girls - "Jail La La"
64. Alicia Keys - "Un-Thinkable (I'm Ready)"
63. Broken Social Scene - "World Sick"
62. Ted Leo and the Pharmacists - "Bottled in Cork"
61. Tyler the Creator [ft. Hodgy Beats] - "French"
60. Panda Bear - "Slow Motion"
59. Twin Sister - "All Around and Away We Go"
58. Oneohtrix Point Never [ft. Antony] - "Returnal"
57. The Fresh & Onlys - "Waterfall"
56. Joker - "Tron"
55. Lady Gaga [ft. Beyoncé] - "Telephone"
54. Vampire Weekend - "White Sky"
53. Kendal Johansson - "Blue Moon"
52. Lindstrøm & Christabelle - "Lovesick"
51. Smith Westerns - "Weekend"

Dan S, Monday, 13 December 2010 07:46 (six years ago) Permalink

60. Panda Bear - "Slow Motion"

is that a juvenile cover

markers, Monday, 13 December 2010 07:50 (six years ago) Permalink

60. Panda Bear - "Slow Motion"

is that a juvenile cover

― markers, Monday, December 13, 2010 12:50 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

IF only.

rihanna refurbished my dick (rennavate), Monday, 13 December 2010 09:45 (six years ago) Permalink

that's actually one juvenile song that's woozy & druggy &... slow enough where it wouldn't sound retarded & gimmicky if panda covered it

ad hom alone (J0rdan S.), Monday, 13 December 2010 09:58 (six years ago) Permalink

when is the panda album coming out anyway

ad hom alone (J0rdan S.), Monday, 13 December 2010 09:59 (six years ago) Permalink

soderburg wtf

o let's not do it and say we did (The Reverend), Monday, 13 December 2010 10:22 (six years ago) Permalink

??

ad hom alone (J0rdan S.), Monday, 13 December 2010 10:26 (six years ago) Permalink

"over" blurb

o let's not do it and say we did (The Reverend), Monday, 13 December 2010 10:26 (six years ago) Permalink

he calls drake the "king of hashtag rappers" and means it as a compliment

o let's not do it and say we did (The Reverend), Monday, 13 December 2010 10:27 (six years ago) Permalink

oh, well to be fair he did say that diggy simmons sounded better on the beat

ad hom alone (J0rdan S.), Monday, 13 December 2010 10:27 (six years ago) Permalink

i like the ramadanman track but so far nothing else i haven't heard already that sounds interesting to me

o let's not do it and say we did (The Reverend), Monday, 13 December 2010 10:31 (six years ago) Permalink

it's weird tho -- i liked the beat at first, though now i find it pretty repulsive, but in any event it doesn't strike me as the type of beat like "miss me" or something where you can just totally vibe to the thing while ignoring the rapping -- it seems more, purposefully, like a backdrop beat that's really meant to emphasize the lyrics

ad hom alone (J0rdan S.), Monday, 13 December 2010 10:31 (six years ago) Permalink

talking about "over" obv

ad hom alone (J0rdan S.), Monday, 13 December 2010 10:31 (six years ago) Permalink

damn, i always forget how good that alicia joint is

o let's not do it and say we did (The Reverend), Monday, 13 December 2010 10:32 (six years ago) Permalink

"over" beat is dope in a heatmade in '04 kinda way but that just makes me wish i could hear some roc dudes in their prime spit gully shit on it

o let's not do it and say we did (The Reverend), Monday, 13 December 2010 10:33 (six years ago) Permalink

also i thought his point about t-pain was bizarre & didn't really make sense in the context of what he said about drake? like, i guess the idea of rap/r&b being "slash & burn" or w/e was sorta right, but it seems off to me to say that drake has avoided the fate of being cast off due to self-parody because he put out a "cogent" debut album by using the example of t-pain, who was actually a really coherent album artist

also i fail to see the connection b/w putting out a "cogent" album & not randomly losing favor w/in the industry & public

ad hom alone (J0rdan S.), Monday, 13 December 2010 10:37 (six years ago) Permalink

the alicia joint is def very good -- would actually like to see drake put more time into writing r&b for other artists

ad hom alone (J0rdan S.), Monday, 13 December 2010 10:39 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah otm. also t-pain was never really taken as a rapper like drake usually is, just as a dude who raps sometimes like lil jon or pharrell or something xp

o let's not do it and say we did (The Reverend), Monday, 13 December 2010 10:40 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah, the example of lil wayne wouldn't fit for brandon's thesis because wayne hasn't fallen off, but he's clearly the direct lineage for drake's sing/rap thing, and more importantly, being ubiquitous all over other ppl's singles in both fashions

as for singles, t-pain raps on "kiss kiss" & "shawty get loose" but most of his rapping was on like random remixes that only nerds heard

ad hom alone (J0rdan S.), Monday, 13 December 2010 10:47 (six years ago) Permalink

i guess there are a few others that he raps on ("go girl" etc) but i think he's still classified more like ne-yo, the-dream or akon than wayne or kanye

ad hom alone (J0rdan S.), Monday, 13 December 2010 10:48 (six years ago) Permalink

They did this last year but Vice's albums of the year chart is usually as funny as their tips of the year spoof.

Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Monday, 13 December 2010 14:35 (six years ago) Permalink

Would be funnier if it were more accurate I think. Also they've actually reused, almost word for word, some of the jokes from last year.

Matt DC, Monday, 13 December 2010 15:06 (six years ago) Permalink

http://www.viceland.com/music/2009/12/the-vice-albums-of-the-year/

They've re-used word for word more than just the jokes afaict. But that is the joke right?

O Permaban (NickB), Monday, 13 December 2010 15:11 (six years ago) Permalink

100. These New Puritans - "We Want War"
94. Kelis - "Acapella"
91. Liars - "Scarecrows on a Killer Slant"
74. Sade - "Soldier of Love"
64. Alicia Keys - "Un-Thinkable (I'm Ready)"
58. Oneohtrix Point Never [ft. Antony] - "Returnal"
52. Lindstrøm & Christabelle - "Lovesick"

happy to see all these on the pfork list

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Monday, 13 December 2010 15:17 (six years ago) Permalink

I think that's partly the joke. They reused their tips one word for word.

Carl Jung Jeezy (Doran), Monday, 13 December 2010 15:28 (six years ago) Permalink

Funny

9. A rapper moving hip-hop into ‘uncharted territories’. i.e.: Has the same neon cyberdog aesthetic as a Joel Schumacher Batman film.

The baby boomers have defined everything once and for all (Dorianlynskey), Monday, 13 December 2010 16:00 (six years ago) Permalink

x-post to

Soon going to have to do a list of my top 101 albums of the year, many of which are unsurprisingly not here. LOL do people still read blogs?

― T Bone Streep (Cave17Matt)

You'll have to put it on a tumblr or tweet it, like all the cool kidzzzz

curmudgeon, Monday, 13 December 2010 17:29 (six years ago) Permalink

the "over" writeup is shameless & embarassing but so is everything they've ever written about drake. this list is pretty hot so far, though. i always appreciate their eoy trax lists most in years when i wasn't really paying attention to p4k goings on during the year

flopson, Monday, 13 December 2010 17:51 (six years ago) Permalink

Pop Matters albums

70. Massive Attack - Heligoland
69. Robyn - Body Talk, Pt. 1
68. Vijay Iyer - Solo
67. Oneohtrix Point Never - Returnal
66. Cee-Lo Green - The Lady Killer
65. The Radio Dept. - Clinging to a Scheme
64. The Nels Cline Singers - Initiate
63. Agalloch - Marrow of the Spirits
62. Roky Erickson with Okkervil River - True Love Cast Out All Evil
61. Bilal - Airtight’s Revenge
60. The Walkmen - Lisbon
59. Underworld - Barking
58. Emeralds - Does It Look Like I’m Here?
57. Los Campesinos! - Romance Is Boring
56. Women - Public Strain
55. Jónsi - Go
54. MGMT - Congratulations
53. Belle and Sebastian - Belle and Sebastian Write About Love
52. Robert Plant - Band of Joy
51. Crystal Castles - Crystal Castles
50. School of Seven Bells - Disconnect from Desire
49. Owen Pallett - Heartland
48. Superchunk - Majesty Shredding
47. Yeasayer - Odd Blood
46. Josh Ritter - So Runs the World Away
45. Swans - My Father Will Guide Me Up a Rope to the Sky
44. Erykah Badu - New Amerykah, Part Two: Return of the Ankh
43. Autechre - Oversteps
42. Midlake - The Courage of Others
41. Christian Scott - Yesterday You Said Tomorrow
40. Vampire Weekend - Contra
39. Justin Townes Earle - Harlem River Blues
38. Patty Griffin - Downtown Church
37. Twin Shadow - Forget
36. The Tallest Man on Earth - The Wild Hunt
35. Ryan Bingham & the Dead Horses - Junky Star
34. Drive-By Truckers - The Big To-Do
33. The New Pornographers - Together
32. The Roots - How I Got Over
31. Neil Young - Le Noise
30. Sharon Jones & the Dap-Kings - I Learned the Hard Way
29. John Grant - Queen of Denmark
28. Surfer Blood - Astro Coast
27. Caribou - Swim
26. Jamey Johnson - The Guitar Song
25. Spoon - Transference
24. Grinderman - Grinderman 2
23. Konono No. 1 - Assume Crash Position
22. Gorillaz - Plastic Beach
21. Four Tet - There Is Love in You
20. Das Racist - Sit Down, Man
19. Sufjan Stevens - The Age of Adz
18. Best Coast - Crazy for You
17. The Black Keys - Brothers
16. Mavis Staples - You Are Not Alone
15. Ariel Pink’s Haunted Graffiti - Before Today
14. Galactic - Ya-Ka-May
13. Joanna Newsom - Have One on Me
12. Deerhunter - Halcyon Digest
11. Sleigh Bells - Treats
10. Big Boi - Sir Lucious Left Foot: The Son of Chico Dusty
9. Gogol Bordello - Trans-Continental Hustle
8. Titus Andronicus - The Monitor
7. Beach House - Teen Dream
6. LCD Soundsystem - This Is Happening
5. Arcade Fire - The Suburbs
4. Kanye West - My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
3. Flying Lotus - Cosmogramma
2. The National - High Violet
1. Janelle Monáe - The ArchAndroid

Dan S, Monday, 13 December 2010 18:03 (six years ago) Permalink

:0

billstevejim, Monday, 13 December 2010 18:16 (six years ago) Permalink

That's a decent list if you ignore most of the top 10.

seandalai, Monday, 13 December 2010 18:17 (six years ago) Permalink

First list to feature Autechre if Ctrl+F is to be believed.

seandalai, Monday, 13 December 2010 18:18 (six years ago) Permalink

pop matters, just not as much as indie rock

flopson, Monday, 13 December 2010 18:20 (six years ago) Permalink

oops bad joke

*blush*

flopson, Monday, 13 December 2010 18:20 (six years ago) Permalink

popmatters: they are shuffling other mag's lists arcade fire lcd soundsystem the national are boring blah blah blah anyways, here are two interesting lists from dustedmagazine as in ie. I have no idea who most of those artists are:

http://dustedmagazine.com/features/936
http://dustedmagazine.com/features/941

laser precise purpose maker era, Monday, 13 December 2010 18:24 (six years ago) Permalink

5. Arcade Fire - The Suburbs
4. Kanye West - My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy

an improvement; at least they're shifted down a few places?

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Monday, 13 December 2010 18:27 (six years ago) Permalink

pop matters, just not as much as indie rock

― flopson, Monday, December 13, 2010 12:20 PM (6 minutes ago)

oops bad joke

*blush*

― flopson, Monday, December 13, 2010 12:20 PM (6 minutes ago)

i lol'd

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Monday, 13 December 2010 18:27 (six years ago) Permalink

I mean, the first guy has Thomas Koner, Kevin Drumm and Keith Fullerton Williams which are pretty cool so the other ones should be interesting. As for the second one, I can't fucking stand Joanna Newsom but she has plenty of never-heard-of japanese stuff that looks rad. Kinda like reading volcanictongue or The Wire EOY lists.

laser precise purpose maker era, Monday, 13 December 2010 18:29 (six years ago) Permalink

21. Four Tet - There Is Love in You

this is about as high as four tet's been all year; a fucking shame, as it's his best album, and one of my top 5 or so of the year :(

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Monday, 13 December 2010 18:30 (six years ago) Permalink

btw, Brainwashed has begun the nominations process for its year-end readers poll; one of the better polls out there!

http://brainwashed.com/2010

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Monday, 13 December 2010 18:32 (six years ago) Permalink

This is a pretty funny thread though, with everyone bitching and bitching about how boring and similar these lists are, but when presented with one that really looks completely different from the rest (the Classic Rock), its all, "lol that is an awful list full of awful music". No pleasing you guys at all, is there? "Different" lists only count if they have the records you like?

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 04:24 (six years ago) Permalink

i was praising it for being different

lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 04:25 (six years ago) Permalink

Ha, I posted that just before I noticed your comment.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 04:27 (six years ago) Permalink

21. Four Tet - There Is Love in You
this is about as high as four tet's been all year; a fucking shame, as it's his best album, and one of my top 5 or so of the year :(

― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Monday, December 13, 2010 12:30 PM (10 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Same. Might not be as groundbreaking as many others, but it's one of the few that I never got tired of after months and months of replays.

Indexed, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 04:34 (six years ago) Permalink

Pitchfork tracks 50-1

50. Cults - "Go Outside"
49. ceo - "Come With Me"
48. Best Coast - "When I'm With You"
47. Beach House - "Walk in the Park"
46. The Knife [ft. Mt. Sims and Planningtorock] - "Colouring of Pigeons"
45. Gorillaz - "On Melancholy Hill" - "hahahaha jk?"
43. Waka Flocka Flame - "Hard in Da Paint"
42. Japandroids - "Younger Us"
41. Deerhunter - "Helicopter"
40. Janelle Monáe - "Cold War"
39. No Age - "Fever Dreaming"
38. Hot Chip - "One Life Stand"
37. Jay Electronica - "Exhibit C"
36. Arcade Fire - "Ready to Start"
35. Rihanna - "Rude Boy"
34. Gold Panda - "You"
33. Zola Jesus - "Night"
32. Robyn - "Hang With Me"
31. Girls - "Carolina"
30. The-Dream - "Yamaha"
29. James Blake - "CMYK"
28. Yeasayer - "O.N.E"
27. Four Tet - "Angel Echoes"
26. Cee-Lo - "Fuck You"
25. The Walkmen - "Angela Surf City"
24. Teengirl Fantasy - "Cheaters"
23. Vampire Weekend - "Giving Up the Gun"
22. Rick Ross [ft. Styles P] - "B.M.F. (Blowin' Money Fast)"
21. Azari & III - "Reckless (With Your Love) (Tensnake Remix)"
20. Erykah Badu - "Window Seat"
19. How to Dress Well - "Decisions (feat. Yüksel Arslan)"
18. Titus Andronicus - "A More Perfect Union"
17. Girl Unit - "Wut"
16. Beach House - "Norway"
15. Crystal Castles [ft. Robert Smith] - "Not in Love"
14. Sleigh Bells - "Rill Rill"
13. Caribou - "Odessa"
12. LCD Soundsystem - "All I Want"
11. Deerhunter - "Desire Lines"
10. Janelle Monáe [ft. Big Boi] - "Tightrope"
09. Arcade Fire - "Sprawl II (Mountains Beyond Mountains)"
08. James Blake - "I Only Know (What I Know Now)"
07. Joanna Newsom - "Good Intentions Paving Company"
06. Kanye West [ft. Dwele] - "POWER"
05. Big Boi [ft. Cutty] - "Shutterbugg"
04. Robyn - "Dancing on My Own"
03. LCD Soundsystem - "I Can Change"
02. Kanye West [ft. Pusha T] - "Runaway"
01. Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti - "Round and Round"

Dan S, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 06:19 (six years ago) Permalink

glad to see Round and Round at #1

Dan S, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 06:20 (six years ago) Permalink

^______________________________________________________________________________^

markers, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 06:21 (six years ago) Permalink

Resident Advisor
20 Compilations of 2010

20. Various Artists - The Minimal Wave
19. Deadbeat - Radio Rothko
18. Various Artists - Mandarinen Traume
17. Surgeon - Fabric 53
16. Tensnake - In The House
15. Martyn - Fabric 50
14. Apparat - DJ-Kicks
13. Various Artists - Ninja Tune XX
12. Shackleton - Fabric 55
11. Scuba - Sub:Stance [Ostgut Ton]
10. Thomas Hamann & Gerd Janson - Live at Robert Johnson
09. Seth Troxler - Boogybytes Vol. 5
08. James Holden - DJ Kicks
07. Various Artists - Fünf
06. Anthony "Shake" Shakir - Frictionalism: 1994-2009
05. Optimo - Fabric 52
04. Ewan Pearson - We Are Proud of Our Choices
03. DBridge & Instra:Mental - Autonomic - FabricLive.50
02. Michael Mayer - Immer 3
01. Ben Klock - Berghain 04

Dan S, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 06:37 (six years ago) Permalink

random thoughts on pfork traxxx list:

don't get the big deal w/r/t "round and round" -- i mean it's okay, but.....?

worst song on the LCD album at #3 = looool

can't believe "fuck you" is stuck at #26, that is CRIMINAL

think "CMYK" is the better james blake track..

worst sleigh bells song at #14, there's a reason the album is awesome but none of the other songs sound like fucking "rill rill"

oh, and wasn't "exhibit c" from '09?

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 06:40 (six years ago) Permalink

p4k list has a lot right on it!

but i'm shocked about the placement of "i can change"

ok (Tape Store), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 06:55 (six years ago) Permalink

and "rill rill" is beautiful (my no. 1 last year!)

ok (Tape Store), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 06:57 (six years ago) Permalink

worst sleigh bells song at #14, there's a reason the album is awesome but none of the other songs sound like fucking "rill rill"

If this is true maybe I might actually give that album a chance.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 07:00 (six years ago) Permalink

I didn't think that SB album would stick with me as well as it has

re: I can change, do you think there's a better track on the album, Tape Store?

Dan S, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 07:02 (six years ago) Permalink

i don't think i would label any song from that album a "standout," but at least I see how p4k could (stupidly) think "'All I Want' = our '"Heroes"'!!!

ok (Tape Store), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 07:08 (six years ago) Permalink

that entire lcd album is boring

billstevejim, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 07:11 (six years ago) Permalink

yes

ok (Tape Store), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 07:12 (six years ago) Permalink

concur

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 07:13 (six years ago) Permalink

IMO this is the best P4k EOY Track list in years. The last two or three had some real garbage, but this one seems pretty OTM for their audience and taste.

Indexed, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 07:17 (six years ago) Permalink

it does seem like a lot of the choices are right, among the artists that they rep for

Dan S, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 07:19 (six years ago) Permalink

Tainted by Newsom in the top 10...otherwise, it's decent.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 07:21 (six years ago) Permalink

but if you were to pick any one track on that album to represent it, that would be it

Dan S, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 07:23 (six years ago) Permalink

Yay for being otm for your audience and taste!

ITV2: Jimlectric Beglinoo (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 08:26 (six years ago) Permalink

that entire lcd album is boring

― billstevejim, Monday, December 13, 2010 11:11 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yes

― ok (Tape Store), Monday, December 13, 2010 11:12 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

concur

― Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, December 13, 2010 11:13 PM Bookmark

uh huh

o let's not do it and say we did (The Reverend), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 08:27 (six years ago) Permalink

21. Azari & III - "Reckless (With Your Love) (Tensnake Remix)"

this is one of the most overrated trax of the year imo - don't get me wrong i really, really like it, would bruk out in a club, it's a lot of fun - but if you're going to reward azari & iii or tensnake or that sort of music, there's a lot better out there, and it all just looks a bit like a really lame "lolz i recognise a c&c music factory sample lolz" reaction.

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 08:44 (six years ago) Permalink

obviously it's one of the best tracks in the p4k list but my eyes are just glazing over at most of it - i only criticise this cuz i like it

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 08:45 (six years ago) Permalink

also fuck james blake

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 08:45 (six years ago) Permalink

where do i sign up?

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 14 December 2010 08:47 (six years ago) Permalink

really?! nah.

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 08:51 (six years ago) Permalink

gimme drop the lime/jackmaster/toddla t/jam city/joy orbison/egyptrixx any day

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 08:54 (six years ago) Permalink

we could probably start a whole separate poll....

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 14 December 2010 08:55 (six years ago) Permalink

Put some chix in it.

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 08:59 (six years ago) Permalink

plenty of hawt female producers in this ~scene~ too

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 09:05 (six years ago) Permalink

James Blake vocal album to dominate next year's lists? I'm pretty perplexed at the hype he's getting.

Number None, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 09:08 (six years ago) Permalink

I can't be the only person that thought LCD were spudjged out at #12 and was surprised to see them reappear at #3. I don't mind 'I Can Change' but it does sound like it was written to be bedding music on a top 100 countdown. In fact I'll be prepared to bet it gets used in Channel 4's Top 100 Toys this weekend.

Mitchell Stirling, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 09:11 (six years ago) Permalink

me too - i find his stuff pretty lifeless and awkward tbh. it's weird, i hear music by a ton of producers in this scene, and i actively dislike very very few - when it's bad it's just boring or uninspired - but i def dislike his stuff. and yet, here we are, crossover hype. it should be girl unit getting all of this tbh.

xp

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 09:11 (six years ago)