But, anyway, here's some results.
THE ILX 70S POLL TOP 100 ALBUMS
Hurray!
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Saturday, 16 April 2005 09:22 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 199votes: 61st place votes: 0
VARIOUS ARTISTS - NUGGETS
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Feel free to add your own comments.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Saturday, 16 April 2005 09:26 (eighteen years ago) link
Hurray!!
― Frogman Henry, Saturday, 16 April 2005 09:26 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 203votes: 61st place votes: 0
NEW YORK DOLLS - NEW YORK DOLLS
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Saturday, 16 April 2005 09:41 (eighteen years ago) link
This is what comes of getting images from Amazon. I can only assume the original cover art did not include a red circle and the phrase£6.97. Not very punk, that..
Also, I don't have blurbs for most of these, and I'll spare you my comments (for most of them, at least). I could pull something off Amazon reviews to fill in spaces, but again that seems rather pointless when people here will probably have something better to add.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Saturday, 16 April 2005 09:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 16 April 2005 09:49 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 203votes: 71st place votes: 0
DAVID BOWIE - HEROES
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Ties were resolved by
1. Number of first place votes2. Next highest placing3. Total votes
Neither of these got a first place - Heroes' highest placing was 7 and New York Dolls' was 8.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Saturday, 16 April 2005 09:55 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.up-to-date.com/bowie/heroes/index.gif
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Saturday, 16 April 2005 09:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Saturday, 16 April 2005 10:00 (eighteen years ago) link
x-post
― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 16 April 2005 10:00 (eighteen years ago) link
Here's a NICE BIG PICTURE of David Bowie waving his arms about.
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Saturday, 16 April 2005 10:07 (eighteen years ago) link
whatever it is Kate Bush does.
97
points: 2031st place votes: 0total votes: 5
KATE BUSH - THE KICK INSIDE
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Saturday, 16 April 2005 10:10 (eighteen years ago) link
She's a tricksy one that Kate, and no mistake.
She REALLY looks like this.
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hopefully.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Saturday, 16 April 2005 10:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Saturday, 16 April 2005 10:14 (eighteen years ago) link
― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Saturday, 16 April 2005 10:17 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 2031st place votes: 0total votes: 8
BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN - DARKNESS ON THE EDGE OF TOWN
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Bruce's highest placing was also 4, but he got more votes.
I do hope the above is a picture of Bruce Springsteen.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Saturday, 16 April 2005 10:19 (eighteen years ago) link
fucking hell...
does anyone have a hard object I can bang my head against?
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Saturday, 16 April 2005 10:20 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 2041st place votes: 1total votes: 6
THE CURE - THREE IMAGINARY BOYS
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Saturday, 16 April 2005 10:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Saturday, 16 April 2005 10:25 (eighteen years ago) link
Best album so far, as well. I went off The Cure a bit when "A Forest" came out...
― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Saturday, 16 April 2005 10:27 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 2041st place votes: 0total votes: 7
AUGUSTUS PABLO - KING TUBBY MEETS ROCKERS UPTOWN
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Saturday, 16 April 2005 10:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Saturday, 16 April 2005 10:35 (eighteen years ago) link
94
points: 2071st place votes: 0total votes: 7
That's better.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Saturday, 16 April 2005 10:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Saturday, 16 April 2005 10:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― Lee F# (fsharp), Saturday, 16 April 2005 10:41 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 2081st place votes: 0total votes: 5
PHILIP GLASS - EINSTEIN ON THE BEACH
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Saturday, 16 April 2005 10:44 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 2101st place votes: 0total votes: 7
SPARKS - KIMONO MY HOUSE
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Saturday, 16 April 2005 10:48 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 2111st place votes: 0total votes: 7
CHEAP TRICK - AT BUDOKAN
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Saturday, 16 April 2005 10:54 (eighteen years ago) link
i had the original lp for years and the way it rocked from beginning to end (except for "need your love" and the horrible "i want you to want me") used to leave me wanting more -- if that "want you .." song hadn't been pandemic radio novelty junk back then Live at Budokan wouldn't have been released at all except in Japan, and Rick Nelson reckoned Dream Police wouldn't have been in the can for a year -- the band wouldn't have lost their momentum, as they seem to have peaked around then
this was the band i always wanted to see appear at the pub when i went out at night, ie one that really rocked -- no bullshit, just thoroughly down-to-work rock music from a band that used to work 200 nights of the year, so they knew how to do it live (so it was nice of Albini to let them headline ATP years after all the fuss)
so when i finally got the double cd it was a great thrill -- the encore stuff in the right order right through to Rick mumbling like some bemused tourist "Mmmm.., the great Budokan .." at the beginning before they hit the stage and get that reaction like nothing they'd ever had back home in the u.s. -- i thought there'd have to be filler in a two cd long concert but no, just this endless energy
as good as the original lps are i think that only "high roller" rocks better in the studio -- the live concert, "warts and all" entirety, really does deliver on live rock, something you couldn't say about most old double live lps that fit on single cds
-- george gosset, April 3rd, 2003
― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 16 April 2005 11:01 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 2121st place votes: 0total votes: 6
STEELY DAN - COUNTDOWN TO ECSTASY
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Saturday, 16 April 2005 11:10 (eighteen years ago) link
(that's a rhetorical question and does NOT require an answer..)
Countdown To Ecstacy is a fantastic album. My Punk story, the day I bought Never Mind The Bollocks I also bought Pretzel Logic. I played the second one much more.
-- Pete (pb1...), February 27th, 2002.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Saturday, 16 April 2005 11:17 (eighteen years ago) link
For me the one that bears the most frequent revisiting is Countdown to Ecstasy, but it's unbelievably dark. -- J0hn Darn1elle (edito...), October 20th, 2003
― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 16 April 2005 11:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 16 April 2005 11:19 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 2201st place votes: 0total votes: 6
SPARKS - NO.1 IN HEAVEN
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_The Number One Song in Heaven_ -- the album itself is a Giorgio Moroder-produced classic, and for me is easily the equal of his work with Donna Summer. Anyone even slightly interested in how the eighties were invented needs to hear this.
-- Ned Raggett (ne...), August 28th, 2000.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Saturday, 16 April 2005 11:23 (eighteen years ago) link
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Saturday, 16 April 2005 11:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Saturday, 16 April 2005 11:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Saturday, 16 April 2005 11:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Saturday, 16 April 2005 11:28 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 2221st place votes: 0total votes: 9
CAN - FUTURE DAYS
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Saturday, 16 April 2005 11:32 (eighteen years ago) link
(err..did that attempt to copy Mike and introduce an element of suspense work? I suspect not.)
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Saturday, 16 April 2005 11:35 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 2291st place votes: 1total votes: 9
THE B52s - THE B52s
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Saturday, 16 April 2005 11:39 (eighteen years ago) link
Future Days is wonderful "finally finding a path home after driving around lost for an hour or so" music. -- Alan N (ala...), February 25th, 2003
'Classic' Can is a chore, Future Days excepted.
-- Dr. C (Daveatcrossdee...), February 25th, 2003
― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 16 April 2005 11:40 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 2311st place votes: 1total votes: 6
PARLIAMENT - FUNKENTELECHY VS. THE PLACEBO SYNDROME
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Saturday, 16 April 2005 11:43 (eighteen years ago) link
I thought that was going too well..
86
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Saturday, 16 April 2005 11:45 (eighteen years ago) link
the first 2 LPs are godlike. -- electric sound of jim (electricsoun...), July 9th, 2003
"Planet Claire" = first single mark s evah bought -- mark s (mar...), September 9th, 2001
― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 16 April 2005 11:47 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 2321st place votes: 0total votes: 10
LEONARD COHEN - SONGS OF LOVE AND HATE
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Saturday, 16 April 2005 11:49 (eighteen years ago) link
-- M Matos (michaelangelomato...), July 12th, 2002.
Funkentelechy vs. the Placebo Syndrome by Parliament. No gaps, no holes, weird stuff right next to glorious pop moments, doo-wop science-fiction funk with no apologies.
-- Matt C. (cibul...), October 3rd, 2002.
If you're looking for the straight-up, most accessible of the Parliament records that sound like what most people consider the "Parliament sound"--i.e. the "disco-y, funky, rubbery bass kinda stuff you see sample on the G-Funk hip hop albums" that Jason D pointed out--then Funkentelechy is tough to beat. Two killer singles, hilarious dead-on concept w/ great characters and great extended jams. And ironically, in light of the early P-Funk records, it's one of the all-time greatest acid records. -- Naive Teen Idol (matthewjweine...), March 17th, 2003.
― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 16 April 2005 11:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 16 April 2005 11:52 (eighteen years ago) link
Thanks for helping with this.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Saturday, 16 April 2005 11:54 (eighteen years ago) link
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Saturday, 16 April 2005 11:57 (eighteen years ago) link
'Songs of Love and Hate' is about as dark as it gets: in particular 'Dress Rehearsal Rag'.
-- Johnathan (johnatha...), July 11th, 2001
Songs of Love and Hate is one of the most perfect albums I've ever heard.
-- Affectian (niche_ia...), May 29th, 2003
― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 16 April 2005 11:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 16 April 2005 11:59 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 2351st place votes: 0total votes: 9
IGGY AND THE STOOGES - RAW POWER
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Saturday, 16 April 2005 12:00 (eighteen years ago) link
-- Sean Carruthers (oneiro...), April 29th, 2001.
Raw power isnt even that hot an album except for a few tracks (Search and destroy, Gimme danger). Bowies production is awful too. I know its an obvious thing to say but its true.
-- Michael (carrotbourk...), April 28th, 2001.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Saturday, 16 April 2005 12:05 (eighteen years ago) link
The great thing about the bass-shy original Raw Power is that you can crank it up really loud on the scuzziest of hi(?)-fi systems ... there's no distorted bass to spoil things, just searing layers of tinny white noise geetar, with Iggy hollering over the top.
-- I.M.Belong (imbelon...), July 20th, 2001
Raw Power lasts for me because it was a live event, more inspirational, it changed the way I walked down the street. -- K-reg (drelocatio...), April 29th, 2001
A fry up, a pint of orange juice, "Raw Power" at max volume and down the pub for opening time. Just do it.
-- Dr. C (Daveatcrossdee...), April 28th, 2001
OK, now I work
― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 16 April 2005 12:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Saturday, 16 April 2005 12:10 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 2361st place votes: 0total votes: 6
THE SLITS - CUT
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Slits! Cut is great.
-- scott m (srmcd...), August 14th, 2003.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Saturday, 16 April 2005 12:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Saturday, 16 April 2005 12:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Saturday, 16 April 2005 12:14 (eighteen years ago) link
― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Saturday, 16 April 2005 12:30 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 2361st place votes: 1total votes: 6
NICK DRAKE - BRYTER LAYTER
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The word "gentle" springs to mind - but that's not quite right. This is pastoral, rather than gentle. Its a quiet two fingers up to the city, and a trudge up into the hills to stare at the clouds above... knowing that, at some point, you've got to go back and face the streets, and the hardness - but hey, for now, let's enjoy the view, and each other. Do you hope to find new ways of quenching your thirst?? I'm not talking about Volvic.
I'm not sure how this blurb is going, or where this blurb is going. Perhaps it should end there.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Saturday, 16 April 2005 12:32 (eighteen years ago) link
P.S. Another tip for searching, esp. with album titles that don't have very distinctive words in them, is to use the Google search (set up on the ILX search page). Google doesn't index all threads, by any means, but it can be handy, esp. as it's much faster and gives you keyword in context.
http://www.google.com/search?client=googlet&q=site%3Ailx.wh3rd.net%20%22raw%20power%22%20 for example
― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 16 April 2005 12:35 (eighteen years ago) link
-- hobart paving (elvistear...), April 16th, 2005. (tracklink)This is so endearingly ramshackle! Peel would have approved!
-- mike t-diva (mikejl...), April 16th, 2005.
Endearingly ramshackle...
You're very kind. Some would be a little harsher. What on EARTH was I doing there?
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Saturday, 16 April 2005 12:35 (eighteen years ago) link
Key question--how many people actually voted?
― Keith C (kcraw916), Saturday, 16 April 2005 12:41 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 2371st place votes: 0total votes: 8
THE BEACH BOYS - SURF'S UP
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I'm not sure if that is the original cover.
Surf's Up rules, and if it had any more epics than it contained, it'd probably be too perfect. I appreciate songs like Lookin' At Tomorrow and Student Demonstration Time because they make the Beach Boys seem human.
-- Schwingung (spacela...), November 25th, 2003.
"Sunflower" and "Surf's Up" are absolute classics, almost on par with "Pet Sounds" and better than anything else they did in the 60s.
-- Geir Hongro (geirhon...), November 25th, 2003.
On the Sunflower/Surf's Up tip, I would say the former is the better album, while the latter has four or five absolutely AMAZING, PERFECT songs on it with several clunkers packed in. And, I dunno, This Whole World is a pretty amazing song, too. And yes, those are the albums that prove the melodic genius ran through the entirety of the Wilson family, if not the ear for eccentricity and vocal arrangement skills.
-- Chris O. (coconnor...), November 26th, 2003.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Saturday, 16 April 2005 12:44 (eighteen years ago) link
Let's try again:
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Saturday, 16 April 2005 12:48 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.banality.nl/images/surfsup.jpg
― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 16 April 2005 12:50 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 2381st place votes: 0total votes: 11
NEU! - NEU!
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Saturday, 16 April 2005 12:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 16 April 2005 12:58 (eighteen years ago) link
fuck
fuckity fuck
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Saturday, 16 April 2005 12:59 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.zschauer.de/beachboys/bb_surfs_up.jpg
THIS is Surf's up.
It looks very sinister. Is it?
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Saturday, 16 April 2005 13:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 16 April 2005 13:03 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 2411st place votes: 0total votes: 8
THE BEATLES - LET IT BE
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Searching the site for "Let It Be" is really very time-consuming, yknow...
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Saturday, 16 April 2005 13:08 (eighteen years ago) link
http://ilx.p3r.net/searchresults.php?board=2&mode=threads&q=&titlepart=let+it+be&name=&email=&username=&dateafter=&datebefore=&catid=all
― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 16 April 2005 13:10 (eighteen years ago) link
oops, wrong poll.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Saturday, 16 April 2005 13:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Saturday, 16 April 2005 13:16 (eighteen years ago) link
solid through and through, though i've never understood the appeal of "get back," which is the template for every bad paul mccartney rock song to come. "i me mine" is sub-par george. "one after 909" is a throwaway that doesn't stand up to great throwaways like, say, "gary's got a boner." "long and winding road" is an ok piano ballad that's got nothing on "androgynous." "two of us," on the other hand, is every bit as good an album opener as "i will dare." "dig it" tops "seen your video" in the celebrating/defecating-pop-culture department. "let it be" is as exactly as good as rem's "everybody hurts," another song i admire but don't need to ever hear again.
-- fact checking cuz (factcheckingcu...), February 23rd, 2005.
Yes, that's a good one, because I agree with it. "Get Back" really is terrible, isn't it?
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Saturday, 16 April 2005 13:17 (eighteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 16 April 2005 13:21 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 2411st place votes: 0total votes: 11
This beats "Let It Be" because its highest placing was 5th, whereas The Beatles highest was 8th.
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JL/POB's 'angry' tracks like "Well Well Well" haven't aged well. However, the way Lennon sings the last verse of "God" may be the best singing of his career.
-- Justyn Dillingham (aubade8...), September 28th, 2002.
John Lenon Plastic Ono Band is classic stuff. It's been a while since I've heard much of this music, however, so it's that much more difficult to say why I like it. Raw, stripped down, etc.
-- Rockist Scientist (Rockistscientis...), September 27th, 2002.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Saturday, 16 April 2005 13:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Saturday, 16 April 2005 13:26 (eighteen years ago) link
The bloke on the grass is John Lennon.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Saturday, 16 April 2005 13:28 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 2461st place votes: 1total votes: 12
FUNKADELIC - MAGGOT BRAIN
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Maggot Brain: Easily the best first 2/3 of any rock OR funk album of the 1970s, but goes way overboard with "Wars of Armageddon". "Super Stupid" is better than 80% of any song written by Led Zeppelin, 90% better than any song written by Black Sabbath, and 250% better than any song written by Grand Funk Railroad.
-- Stupornaut (natepatri...), March 29th, 2005.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Saturday, 16 April 2005 13:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Saturday, 16 April 2005 13:34 (eighteen years ago) link
aren't there, like, two blokes? it's kinda hazy from afar, y'kno.;)
― t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Saturday, 16 April 2005 13:36 (eighteen years ago) link
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points: 2511st place votes: 0total votes: 9
BIG STAR - THIRD
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Saturday, 16 April 2005 13:38 (eighteen years ago) link
It's a little painful to have to revisit my brilliant comments, etc.
― RS, Saturday, 16 April 2005 14:00 (eighteen years ago) link
The three BS albums are like a drunk's progress. First album - happy buzz, sociable and 'up'. Second album - nasty, sloppy, mean-minded, initially amusing but unpleasant to be with. Third album - all the grief, dysfunction and ultimate serenity of the hangover. I like a lot of their stuff, I love a bit of their stuff - ultimately Chilton has to take some of the indirect blame for lo-fi's cult of the fuck- up. -- Tom (ebro...), October 19th, 2001 1:00 AM.
Of course the third Big Star record is an Alex Chlton solo album and it's one of the greatest LPs ever made, in my opinion, greater even than "Radio City."
-- Jess Hill (jesshil...), May 9th, 2003
"Kanga-Roo" is a magically fucked up song. It's just devestating, made all the more so by what a total wreck it is structurally and rhythmically.
-- The Good Dr. Bill (fadeout9...), November 9th, 2004
One of the top 10 most depressing albums of all time.
-- alex in mainhattan (alex6...), July 11th, 2001
― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 16 April 2005 14:04 (eighteen years ago) link
Not judging by that quote about Maggotbrain up above! (Which I don't agree with at all.)
― Lemonade Salesman (Eleventy-Twelve), Saturday, 16 April 2005 14:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― zebedee (zebedee), Saturday, 16 April 2005 14:23 (eighteen years ago) link
I'm sorry to hear about your Grand Funk Railroad fandom
― Stupornaut (natepatrin), Saturday, 16 April 2005 16:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Saturday, 16 April 2005 17:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 16 April 2005 17:25 (eighteen years ago) link
100. VA - Nuggets99. New York Dolls - s/t98. David Bowie - Heroes97. Kate Bush - The Kick Inside96. Bruce Springsteen - Darkness On the Edge of Town95. The Cure - Three Imaginary Boys94. Augustus Pablo - King Tubby Meets Rockers Uptown93. Philip Glass - Einstein on the Beach92. Sparks - Kimono My House91. Cheap Trick - Live at Budokan90. Steely Dan - Countdown to Ecstacy89. Sparks - No. 1 in Heaven88. Can - Future Days87. The B52s - The B52s86. Parliament - Funkentelechy Vs. the Placebo Syndrome85. Leonard Cohen - Songs of Love and Hate84. Iggy and the Stooges - Raw Power83. The Slits - Cut82. Nick Drake - Bryter Layter81. The Beach Boys - Surf's Up80. Neu! - Neu!79. The Beatles - Let It Be78. John Lennon - Plastic Ono Band77. Funkadelic - Maggot Brain76. Big Star - Third
― whenuweremine (whenuweremine), Saturday, 16 April 2005 17:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― poortheatre (poortheatre), Saturday, 16 April 2005 17:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sundar (sundar), Saturday, 16 April 2005 19:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― stephen morris (stephen morris), Saturday, 16 April 2005 21:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― Lemonade Salesman (Eleventy-Twelve), Saturday, 16 April 2005 22:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Sunday, 17 April 2005 10:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Sunday, 17 April 2005 22:09 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 2561st place votes: 1total votes: 7
JOHN CALE - PARIS 1919
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Sunday, 17 April 2005 22:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Sunday, 17 April 2005 22:14 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 2571st place votes: 1total votes: 6
DONNA SUMMER - ON THE RADIO
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Sunday, 17 April 2005 22:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Sunday, 17 April 2005 22:26 (eighteen years ago) link
Now there's a record which creates a world.
-- Tom (ebro...), May 29th, 2001
Paris 1919, Music for a New Society - two of the greatest albums ever released by anyone, anywhere
-- Dadaismus (kcoyne3...), January 12th, 2004
Somehow I think it's nice to get this one in before going to Church of Anthrax / New Society, which if you heard them completely out-of-the-blue would sound like the flailing piss of a coked-up bag of bellybooze. Which they are. The secret is to learn to love the bag, and that takes a while.
-- Lynskey (pau...), January 12th, 2004 2:19 PM.
It's one of the few albs that make me think that "chamber pop" might be anything other than Chicago Live Vol. 1-2000.
-- Jess (dubplatestyl...), August 7th, 2001.
― Alba (Alba), Sunday, 17 April 2005 22:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Sunday, 17 April 2005 22:27 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 2581st place votes: 0total votes: 7
MILES DAVIS - A TRIBUTE TO JACK JOHNSON
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points: 2601st place votes: 0total votes: 5
MARVIN GAYE - LET'S GET IT ON
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Sunday, 17 April 2005 22:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Sunday, 17 April 2005 22:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Sunday, 17 April 2005 22:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Sunday, 17 April 2005 22:35 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 2621st place votes: 0total votes: 10
PARLIAMENT - THE MOTHERSHIP CONNECTION
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Sunday, 17 April 2005 22:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Sunday, 17 April 2005 22:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― the white goddess, Sunday, 17 April 2005 22:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Sunday, 17 April 2005 22:38 (eighteen years ago) link
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Sunday, 17 April 2005 22:40 (eighteen years ago) link
First jazz album I can remember enjoying was Miles' Tribute To Jack Johnson - steady beat, plenty of rockin', lots of surprises. I still don't get Kind Of Blue to this day.
-- Patrick (calimer...), July 16th, 2001
Search: pretty much all the 70s electric stuff sans At Fillmore (no to be confused with Black Beauty: Live at Fillmore West). start with In a Silent Way ('69, but still; most beautiful), Jack Johnson (hardest-rocking), Dark Magus (most ferociously intense).
-- M Matos (michaelangelomato...), December 14th, 2002
Absolutely the best thing Miles Davis in the '70s, even greater than "Agartha" or the best of "Get Up With It."
-- eddie hurt (eddshur...), March 29th, 2004 6:45 PM.
and if you like the standard issue Jack Johnson, the complete sessions box is fascinating. Chockful of random beauty and killer guitar skronk. Really, it's not just another overstuffed ripoff.
-- lovebug starski (writeco...), March 28th, 2004 2:49 PM.
(In reply to "If you were boxer, what would your entrance music be):'Right Off' from Miles Davis' Tribute to Jack Johnson. Obv.
-- Jordan (jordancohe...) December 2nd, 2003
― Alba (Alba), Sunday, 17 April 2005 22:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Sunday, 17 April 2005 22:41 (eighteen years ago) link
funny you should ask.
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BRIAN ENO - TAKING TIGER MOUNTAIN (BY STRATEGY)
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Sunday, 17 April 2005 22:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Sunday, 17 April 2005 22:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Sunday, 17 April 2005 22:45 (eighteen years ago) link
I remmber my sister brought this album home (along with Clones of Dr.Funkenstein) sometime in the summer of 1976 or so, whetting my ten year old appetite for it by saying they were "like the black version of Kiss". Well, they sure did look as equally otherworldly as my beloved, grease-painted superheroes....and were on the same visionary record label....but oof were they ever different! For a start, there seemed to be about forty of them, and the sheer production and instrumentation of Mothership Connection was dizzying (Kiss wouldn't manage as varied and vast a sound until Destroyer). But damn....having heard nothing of any semblance of "funk" in any capacity (James Brown didn't get a lot of airplay in our mid-to-late 70's household), this was just a whole different brand of beast.
For a start, Clinton's narrative skills on the first two tracks are completley hilarious and bizarre, hooking me right in. Secondly, the grooves just seem to flow so effortlessly, morphing from full-on punch and then off into jazzy subtlety, buffered by at least three different voices at a time (Lollipop Man, "the Long Haired Sucka" being my favorite). The precise moment during "Mothership Connection (Star Child)," when the band switches back into the "Swing low sweet chariot..." refrain and the giant saucer gently lifts off again (I'm talking bout specificaly 5:13 into the song), it is truly a transcendent bit of music. Damn I love that.
"Unfunky UFO" seems to abduct the riff from Stevie Wonder's "Superstitious" and takes it on a strange sci-fi episode involving an alien invasion prompted by a funk famine. Odd? You betcha, but it's wildy inventive and engaging stuff.
I remember especially enjoying "Handcuffs" as a kid, mistaking the chorus for being "Do I have to put my handcuffs on your mama?", which made precious little sense but prompted big laughs. The song, in retrospect, is actually a tad misogynist, but hey....this was the 70's after all.
"Give Up the Funk..." is of course a massive classic, and there's nothing I can say about it that will further its status as utterly brilliant. Even the arguable filler tracks ("Night of the Thumpasorus Peoples") are still completely awe inspiring.
If you don't own this record, you're exiling yourself in a world devoid of fun.
Who agrees? Who dares disagree?
-- Alex in NYC (vassife...), August 14th, 2003
Far and away their tightest, least indulgent funk alb, heavily plundered by Dr. Dre. One of the all-time great alb covers too!
-- Andrew L (andre...), July 15th, 2001
Something of a landmark, being one of the first r&b record that's back to back funk, with not a ballad in sight.
-- Shakey Mo Collier (audiobo...), February 4th, 2004
'Mothership Connection' - you won't believe how many bits you'll recognize, it's been sampled to infinity.
-- tarden (scrape10...), July 15th, 2001
There are some strange and tortured souls out there who prefer "Funkentelechy" but then as George himself said, "Mothership" is the one with "all the hits".
-- Dadaismus (kcoyne3...), August 14th, 2003
Around the age of 12 or 13 my best friend found his brother's Parliament CD and we listened to it on repeat for weeks, out on the porch, dancing. First time I ever really danced. That shit changed my life.
-- Sonny A. (newaddres...), August 16th, 2003 2:17 AM.
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-- Juan (p1nk8c1...), November 7th, 2002
Taking Tiger Mountain: His second album. Quite strange surreal story. Somehow gripping. With singing.
-- alex in mainhattan (alex6...), July 17th, 2001
Eno is an underrated lyricist...the words on "Tiger Mountain" always struck me as very nice indeed.
-- Jess Hill (jesshil...), February 28th, 2003
"Tiger Mountain" contains some of the best words I know.
-- eddie hurt (eddshur...), July 21st, 2004
I was in a bar where this guy I know works and he was playing songs from his iPod over the stereo. At one point I asked him, Is this the Thinking Fellers? And he said, no it's Brian Eno. Then later another song came on, and I asked him if it was the Swell Maps. Again it was Eno. It turns out both songs were on TTM(BS). That's when I knew I needed to hear the rest of the album.
-- o. nate (syne_wav...), July 21st, 2004
One thing I don't think I've said about Taking Tiger Mountain by Strategy is that I got a copy around the time that I had just about lost my belief in Christian doctrine, so it took on kind of a heavy symbolic weight of the scarey, uncertain, world of religious disbelief. (Obviously I hadn't only listened to Christian music up until then. That's not the point.) I want to exmphasize, this is a symbolic purpose I was giving it: I don't think it has much to do with the album itself (although it is kind of interesting in light of some things I've read by him essential outlining an anti-fundamentalism--of whatever source--stance). Just the cover itself took on a certain weight, and I wasn't totally happy about it. It didn't look like an especially happy world (and I've never been unambivalently attracted to hipster jadedness, if I've ever been attracted by it at all), but it seemed somewhat inevitable that I would be joining it. Graphically, it was: the cover of Taking Tiger Mountain vs. the dull blue cover of Cornelius Van Til's Defense of the Faith (given to me by my brother-in-law). I think I was more visually oriented then. Anyway, book covers or album covers could easily become suffused with an emotional coloring.
-- Rockist Scientist (heterophoni...), July 21st, 2004
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― Alba (Alba), Sunday, 17 April 2005 23:12 (eighteen years ago) link
(rolls in grave)
― poortheatre (poortheatre), Sunday, 17 April 2005 23:50 (eighteen years ago) link
I wouldn't call it an album. No need for it in the list as long as there is "Bad Girls" anyway
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 18 April 2005 00:02 (eighteen years ago) link
Davis' corpse was always going to be perturbed by the preferences of tiny samples of online listmaking geeks. But what can you do?
Nice work Hobart Paving. Even though many of my choices have already appeared!
― Nag! Nag! Nag! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Monday, 18 April 2005 00:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ian John50n (orion), Monday, 18 April 2005 00:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― poortheatre (poortheatre), Monday, 18 April 2005 01:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sundar (sundar), Monday, 18 April 2005 02:09 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sundar (sundar), Monday, 18 April 2005 02:10 (eighteen years ago) link
John Cale - Paris 1919
There was a lot of nostalgia in the early 70's. From Harry Nillson's drowsy take on easy listening to glam's rocket charged reworking of classic rock and roll memes, a whole generation of musicians were looking back to the carefree days of their youth.
If anyone should be immune to such revisionism then John Cale should be that man. Years spent with Lamonte Young and the Velvet's would be enough to prevent such indulgences . Even Cale wasn't immune, but preferred the richer emotional nostalgia of his youth rather than the callow retreads favoured elsewhere.
Paris 1919 was a work out of time, lush and poetic when elsewhere rock was going through a protracted adolescence. The sepia tinted Cover portrait hinted, like the Band's eponymous album, that this was a piece which would transcend fads and fashion.
Ignored at the time it nevertheless proved to be his most emotionally enduring work (though Music for a new society comes close). Playfully adult in it's themes of travel, mystery and nostalgia. A travelogue of the mind and the heart, a mystery which deepens through repeated listening.
― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Monday, 18 April 2005 07:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sundar (sundar), Monday, 18 April 2005 10:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Monday, 18 April 2005 10:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― the todster (the todster), Monday, 18 April 2005 10:54 (eighteen years ago) link
― the todster (the todster), Monday, 18 April 2005 10:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 18 April 2005 12:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dan Beale, Monday, 18 April 2005 12:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― Cunga (Cunga), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 07:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 07:13 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 2661st place votes: 1total votes: 6
SATURDAY NIGHT FEVER OFFICIAL SOUND TRACK
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 13:52 (eighteen years ago) link
disco was thriving in the mainstream pre-Saturday Night Fever, but the movie and especially the soundtrack made the genre unavoidable leading to disco crossovers by everyone from Elton John to Ethel Merman and a big backlash. No Saturday Night fever - no overexposure, maybe disco doesn't die. Of course you can argue that disco never died, it just turned into electro, etc. but try telling that to all the disco acts who suddenly lost their record deals sometime in the early '80s.-- J Blount (littlejohnnyjewe...), April 29th, 2002.
I don't suppose this is really a negative comment. And the Ethel Merman disco albums is FANTASTIC!!
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 13:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:00 (eighteen years ago) link
-- helenfordsdale (helenfordsdal...), December 23rd, 2001.
err... a bit on the succinct side, that comment, but it serves the purpose, doesn't it?
x-post I could check if you voted for it if you want - remind me what name you'd have sent the e-mail under.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:02 (eighteen years ago) link
― RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:04 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 2691st place votes: 1total votes: 10
WIRE - CHAIRS MISSING
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:17 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 2691st place votes:1total votes: 8
LED ZEPPELIN - HOUSES OF THE HOLY
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and I have a REAL BLURB SPECIALLY WRITTEN FOR THE OCCASION FOR THIS ONE. HURRAY!!
HERE IT IS:
Led Zeppelin - Houses of the Holy
Electric guitar as orchestra.
---Sundar
Short, and to the point.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― These Robust Cookies (Robust Cookies), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:31 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 2701st place votes: 0total votes: 13
LED ZEPPELIN - IV
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Led Zeppelin - IV
A couple favourite moments:- when Robert Plant's voice mutates into a bowed string at the end of "FourSticks"- that sort of crackling chord after "When the Levee Breaks"; the way the mosttraditional blues song is also the most studio-treated- the piles of overdubbed guitars pulling off suspensions of D before the"Stairway to Heaven" solo; the sighing slide guitar overdub in that solo
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:31 (eighteen years ago) link
I suppose it depends whether you think its more important that a few people really, really loved an album or that more people thought it was quite good, but not their favourite. I decided on the former in the end, but can see why you'd suggest the alternative.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:33 (eighteen years ago) link
FUCK! No they haven't.
err... look away for a minute...
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:35 (eighteen years ago) link
WIRE - 154
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ahem... erm...note the subtle difference.
This is how that SHOULD have looked.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― These Robust Cookies (Robust Cookies), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:45 (eighteen years ago) link
By the wonderful Keith C. I am hoping that by using shameless flattery I can deflect attention from the fact that its 12 (or 10, really, as we've just done 68) entries too late.
John Lennon - Plastic Ono Band
Compare the minimalism of the production and arrangements on "PlasticOno Band" to the Beatles' final album, "Abbey Road": in Lennon'smind, not only were the Beatles over, their entire oeuvre was renderedmoot. "Ono" is a literal and figurative shedding of the albatrossLennon felt that the Fab Four had become. Sometimes, evidently, youjust need to start from scratch. Backed by little more than KlausVoormann's bass and Ringo's drumming, Lennon howls and screams(literally) about his estranged parents, the impossibility of fame andthe worthlessness of life. That the world's foremost pop music figurereleased an album so gut-wrenchingly personal and uncompromising atthe height of his popularity is still shocking. That this LP almostovershadows the entire Beatles catalog is more frightening still.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:46 (eighteen years ago) link
As a wise man once said: "this is not a thread that can be read casually".
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:47 (eighteen years ago) link
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PINK FLOYD - WISH YOU WERE HERE
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:54 (eighteen years ago) link
HMMMM??!?!?
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:56 (eighteen years ago) link
― Josh Love (screamapillar), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:57 (eighteen years ago) link
Better late than nevah!
― Keith C (kcraw916), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 15:01 (eighteen years ago) link
I predict less than 10% of my votes will be here.
― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 15:02 (eighteen years ago) link
#66, but still.
― o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 15:05 (eighteen years ago) link
(Above: Paris 1919 was produced by Chris Thomas, who produced Procol Harum, hence, kinda...)
― Dr. Gene Scott (shinybeast), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 15:06 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 2811st place votes: 0total votes: 11
BIG STAR #1 RECORD
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(not sure if the above image is the correct one, or if it will work)
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 15:07 (eighteen years ago) link
genius + internet = hobart
:)
― zebedee (zebedee), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 15:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 15:12 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 2891st place votes: 0total votes: 10
BLACK SABBATH - PARANOID
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 15:16 (eighteen years ago) link
It fucking rules. Buy it.
― Keith C (kcraw916), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 15:17 (eighteen years ago) link
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 15:32 (eighteen years ago) link
It's not made clear when Black Sabbath gained freedom over the choice of album art for their records, but it's noted in the liner notes that they certainly didn't have it circa Paranoid. Two revelations from reading the liner notes, the latter of which is funny, were that a) they had to rename their album, originally slated War Pigs, to Paranoid, basically to stem possible protest and banning because of the Vietnam War situation and b) they were very underwhelmed and baffled by the final result of the Paranoid album art. Iommi was quoted as saying "I don't know who the guy with the sword was on the cover -- it wasn't me! What sense did that make? A chap with a sword and a shield on the cover of an album called Paranoid? People kept asking us about that for years afterwards." -- donut bitch (do...), April 24th, 2004.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 15:36 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 2891st place votes: 1total votes: 7
DAVID BOWIE - STATION TO STATION
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 15:40 (eighteen years ago) link
-- Alfred Soto (sotoal...), March 31st, 2005.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 15:54 (eighteen years ago) link
Try the 'thread title' search or Google tricks with rubbish names like Big Star.
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 15:59 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 2961st place votes: 0total votes: 9
NEIL YOUNG - RUST NEVER SLEEPS
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 16:01 (eighteen years ago) link
That first record sounds more like a revved up Kinks crossed with the glam glory of T.Rex, and there's nothing wrong with that. If it sounds boring and cliched, now, it's only because they invented some of those cliches.-- Sean Carruthers (oneiro...) October 18th, 2001
The first time I heard "Thirteen" I nearly cried.-- Helen Fordsdale (helenfordsdal...) October 19th, 2001
I thought #1 Record was my least favorite but recently reappraisals have made me feel that album is a bit tighter rhythm-wise and has more perennials I dig.-- Anthony Miccio (anthonymicci...), January 9th, 2004
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 16:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ian John50n (orion), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 16:10 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 2971st place votes: 0total votes: 12
ELVIS COSTELLO - MY AIM IS TRUE
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 16:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 16:11 (eighteen years ago) link
-- Dave M. (pton_mwaa...), May 23rd, 2001.
I'll take Trust or The Juliet Letters over My Aim Is True any day.
-- Clyde (clyd...), August 27th, 2002.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 16:14 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 2991st place votes: 1total votes 12
MILES DAVIS - BITCHES BREW
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 16:29 (eighteen years ago) link
I think bitches brew is a pinnacle of all music
-- Josh (kortbei...), August 29th, 2002.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 16:32 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 3001st place votes: 1total votes: 9
BOB DYLAN AND THE BAND - THE BASEMENT TAPES
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 16:35 (eighteen years ago) link
More either later or tomorrow. Probably tomorrow.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 16:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ian John50n (orion), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 16:58 (eighteen years ago) link
-- andy (and...), February 17th, 2004
my very favorite Dylan album (Blonde on Blonde being a very close 2nd).
-- Jazzbo (jmcga...), January 3rd, 2005
I think the arrangements on Basement Tapes exhibit a restlessness, and the positive pressures that talented musicians exert on each other.
-- Amateurist (amateuris...), March 19th, 2003
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 17:02 (eighteen years ago) link
100. VA - Nuggets99. New York Dolls - s/t98. David Bowie - Heroes97. Kate Bush - The Kick Inside96. Bruce Springsteen - Darkness On the Edge of Town95. The Cure - Three Imaginary Boys94. Augustus Pablo - King Tubby Meets Rockers Uptown93. Philip Glass - Einstein on the Beach92. Sparks - Kimono My House91. Cheap Trick - Live at Budokan90. Steely Dan - Countdown to Ecstacy89. Sparks - No. 1 in Heaven88. Can - Future Days87. The B52s - The B52s86. Parliament - Funkentelechy Vs. the Placebo Syndrome85. Leonard Cohen - Songs of Love and Hate84. Iggy and the Stooges - Raw Power83. The Slits - Cut82. Nick Drake - Bryter Layter81. The Beach Boys - Surf's Up80. Neu! - Neu!79. The Beatles - Let It Be78. John Lennon - Plastic Ono Band77. Funkadelic - Maggot Brain76. Big Star - Third75. John Cale - Paris 191974. Donna Summer - On the Radio73. Miles Davis - A Tribute to Jack Johnson72. Marvin Gaye - Let's Get It On71. Parliament - The Mothership Connection70. Brian Eno - Taking Tiger Mountain (By Strategy)69. VA - Saturday Night Fever68. Wire - Chairs Missing67. Led Zeppelin - Houses of the Holy66. Led Zeppelin - IV65. Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here64. Big Star - #1 Record63. Black Sabbath - Paranoid62. David Bowie - Station to Station61. Neil Young - Rust Never Sleeps60. Elvis Costello - My Aim Is True59. Miles Davis - Bitches Brew58. Bob Dylan - The Basement Tapes
― whenuweremine (whenuweremine), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 17:37 (eighteen years ago) link
I guess this is probably all we'll see for Zeppelin, P-Funk, Miles (unless In a Silent Way is more popular than Bitches Brew), possibly some others. Will there be any more compilations on the list (the Harder They Come, hopefully). I'm guessing vote-splitting really hurt Neu and probably Steely Dan as well.
Any guesses for #1? Funhouse is probably not universally loved enough, though I wouldn't be surprised if it got the most #1 votes. Exile, possibly, or maybe a dark horse like Parallel Lines.
― whenuweremine (whenuweremine), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 17:43 (eighteen years ago) link
58 A Tribute to Jack Johnson Miles Davis 59 Rocket to Russia The Ramones60 Plastic Ono Band John Lennon 61 Surf's Up Beach Boys62 The Cars The Cars 63 Zuckerzeit Cluster 64 Lust for Life Iggy Pop 65 On The Beach Neil Young 66 Third/Sister Lovers Big Star 67 Meddle Pink Floyd68 Head Hunters Herbie Hancock 69 IV Faust70 Dark Side Of The Moon Pink Floyd 71 The Payback James Brown 72 Red King Crimson 73 Van Halen Van Halen74 Songs of Love and Hate Leonard Cohen 75 Houses Of The Holy Led Zeppelin 76 Parallel Lines Blondie 77 Aladdin Sane David Bowie78 Expensive Shit Anikulapo Kuti & Africa '70 79 Sail Away Randy Newman 80 Hunky Dory David Bowie81 The Rise And Fall Of Ziggy Stardust David Bowie 82 All Things Must Pass George Harrison 83 Raw Power Iggy & The Stooges 84 Nilsson Schmilsson Nilsson 85 154 Wire86 Blue Joni Mitchell87 For Your Pleasure Roxy Music 88 From Here to Eternity Giorgio Moroder 89 Q: Are We Not Men? A: We are Devo! Devo 90 Zombie Fela Anikulapo Kuti91 20 Jazz Funk Greats Throbbing Gristle 92 The Man-Machine Kraftwerk 93 Band of Gypsys Jimi Hendrix94 Starless and Bible Black King Crimson 95 Physical Graffiti Led Zeppelin 96 The Idiot Iggy Pop97 The Harder They Come Various Artists 98 Rock Bottom Robert Wyatt 99 After The Goldrush Neil Young100 Before and After Science Brian Eno
i think i slightly prefer the ILM results, but there's not a lot in it.
― zebedee (zebedee), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 17:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 17:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 18:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 18:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― jmeister (jmeister), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 18:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― RS, Tuesday, 19 April 2005 18:33 (eighteen years ago) link
In a Silent Way is from is from the late 60s (and there seems to be barrels on uncertainty about Bitches Brew should be considered 60s or 70s. It was recorded in late 60s, though).
On the Corner could show up. That album has a lot of hardcore zealots.
For #1, it will probably be London Calling, right? Who knows. This list is GREAT so far. My amazon cart is getting crunk.
I'll eat crow if the Sex Pistols beat either Clash record, Joy Division, Buzzcocks or Television.
― poortheatre (poortheatre), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 19:53 (eighteen years ago) link
Don't worry. Its an easy mistake to make. Anyone could have done it.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 19:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 19:59 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 3101st place votes: 0total votes: 13
THE CONGOS - HEART OF THE CONGOS
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 20:00 (eighteen years ago) link
-- cybele (maria...), October 31st, 2001.
Congos---Lee Perry at his best; Jamaican vocal technique at its best...need I say more?
-- oops (buttch9...), February 21st, 2003.
gotta say i think heart of the congos is a little overrated. bought it based upon the number of mentions on this thread [NOT THIS ACTUAL THREAD BUT YOU KNEW THAT DIDN'T YOU???], and was surprised at its blandness. granted, i've only listened to it twice now, but i already want to skip both congoman and especially fisherman..doesnt hold a candle to Cumbolo(culture)-musically, perhaps the most solid reggae record i've heard thats not a Lperry vehicle
-- thomas de'aguirre (knuckleru...), March 14th, 2003.
This is probably one of my five favorite albums of all time.-- Bofus (bofus...), November 8th, 2001.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 20:06 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 3101st place votes: 0total votes: 12
FLEETWOOD MAC - RUMOURS
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 20:09 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 20:11 (eighteen years ago) link
Lee Perry's finest hour? JA '77; vocal group, COMPLETELY URGENT AND KEY RECORD - get the 2CD redux version on Blood & Fire, which I think is still available. Deeply spiritual and avant-garde at the same time.
-- Marcello Carlin (marcellocarli...), March 5th, 2003
it sounds like what Brian Wilson would do if he made a roots reggae album.
-- dog latin (doglati...), February 21st, 2003 .
having The Heart Of The Congos as sole reggae album is def pref to The Best of Bob Marley, which is the usual token reggae album.
-- m jemmeson (mjemmeso...), August 21st, 2001.
honestly Heart of the Congos sounds better than just about any Marley I've ever heard.
-- Josh Love (heaveninrowboat...), July 29th, 2004.
one of the best albums ever made, any genre
-- james edwards (jame...), July 20th, 2001
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 20:12 (eighteen years ago) link
Absolutely, if you must have only one reggae album, this is the one. Just sublime.
― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 20:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― 57 7th (calstars), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 20:16 (eighteen years ago) link
Headhunters wasn't nominated...would have been my #2.
― Keith C (kcraw916), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 20:16 (eighteen years ago) link
It also works as kind of a moral lesson about the excess. When you're in a rock band, and you get so coked up every night that you start to think that fucking your band members is a good idea, even when they're married to other band members, these are the feelings you end up with.
Classic. Very.
-- Kenan Hebert (mondria...), March 21st, 2003.
Not often emphasized is how deserved its gargantuan success was. "Rumours" is the summit of pop music.
I've been listening to "Mirage" lately and am reminded of how a great band -- Christine's harmonies, the McVie/Fleetwood rhythm section, say, working in tandem -- can give the frothiest of confections unexpected and even subversive undertones ("Book of Love," "Can't Go Back," "Eyes of the World").
-- Alfred Soto (sotoal...), April 11th, 2005.
I was scared and fascinated by the dirty wife-swapping aura surrounding Fleetwood Mac when I was a kid. It made me think my parents were closet swinger perverts when I saw the cover of "Rumours", and even more so the insert photos, in their collection. Just when I had gotten over realizing they were closet drug addicts after finding that Doobie Brothers record with the giant roach photo on the inner sleeve.
-- fritz (fritzwollner5...), November 9th, 2001.
RUMOURS IS THE GREATEST LP EVER RELEASED. FLEETWOOD MAC IS THE GREATEST BAND IN THE WHOLE WORLD!!! STOP DISSING ON THEM!!!!NIKAYLA~
-- Nikayla Crews (frozenlove197...), April 20th, 2004.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 20:17 (eighteen years ago) link
Well, I did nominate Sextant, and it was my #1.
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 20:19 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 3201st place votes: 2total votes: 7
ORNETTE COLEMAN - DANCING IN YOUR HEAD
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Ornette Coleman - Dancing In Your Head
i) It's like minimalism without the rigidity, improv without incoherence.
ii) It's like music as an environment, conceived as a space wherein everyone can'do his own thing' while still feeding the group. Individuality andcohesiveness are not only not opposed but are mutually defining and sustaining.
iii) It's like a super-advanced polyphony - the lines are so independent thatthey're improvised and they still make sense as part of a whole.
iv) It's just the best bass record there is.
v) It's a multilayered groove and a catchy riff.
vi) You can dance to it.
---- Sundar
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 20:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 20:25 (eighteen years ago) link
I must have some PROG! I demand to have some PROG!
― Keith C (kcraw916), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 20:25 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 3211st place votes: 1total votes: 12
RICHARD AN LINDA THOMPSON - I WANT TO SEE THE BRIGHT LIGHTS TONIGHT
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Richard And Linda Thompson - I Want To See The Bright Lights Tonight
That Richard Thompson remains a relatively obscure figure in theannals of popular music is an injustice that has yet to be corrected. Sure, among music fans his name is known and respected, but trydropping his name outside of ILM or your local record store. "RichardWho?" is the inevitable refrain. "I Want To See The Bright LightsTonight" is Thompson's tour-de-force, consisting of his best set ofsongs, all wrapped in an almost ridiculous, painful sorrow. Whiletracks like "Withered and Died" and "End of the Rainbow" couldn't bemore stark and depressing, the gravity of the lyrics is countervailedby a buoyancy that pervades the music, giving it life and beauty. It's possible the darkness and pessimism of Thompson's music is whatputs people off, but to me that'll always be a mystery. Tragically,"I Want To See the Bright Lights Tonight" remains out of print in theU.S.
------------Keith C
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 20:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 20:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― whenuweremine (whenuweremine), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 20:38 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 3301st place votes: 2total votes: 11
DAVID BOWIE - HUNKY DORY
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David Bowie – Hunky Dory“Time may change me” sang David Bowie on the cabaret-styled opener to Hunky Dory. But as the album was coming on the heels of his heavy glam rock album The Man Who Sold The World, who could have expected that time would change him so quickly? Bowie exchanged electric guitars with pianos and acoustic guitars, focused even more on his story-telling, and in the end, put out one of his greatest collections of songs he would ever make. Just focusing on the lyrics, Bowie can be found spinning tales about self-proclaimed crazy people (“Kooks”), homosexual desires (“Oh! You Pretty Things”) and giving a Bowie's-eye view of celebrities in “Andy Warhol” and “Song For Bob Dylan.” Bowie even created the greatest Generation X chorus on “Quicksand,” though the song pre-dates that demographic by a couple of decades. Bowie lets loose on “Queen Bitch,” modeled after The Velvet Underground (though it outperforms many of their classics). And hidden among the greatness is the brilliant “Life On Mars,” with its nonsensical yet somehow universal lyrics that speak volumes, and gorgeous orchestrations that swell to orgasmic heights at the song’s close. Hunky Dory’s strengths also come from the little things Bowie added, such as the quaalude-enhanced opening of “Andy Warhol,” the ringing phone at the end of “Life On Mars” (wherein Bowie gives a thumbs-up to that take), and the chanting trolls that close out “The Bewlay Brothers” (okay, maybe the trolls are a figment of my imagination, but after the cavemen line in ‘Life on Mars,” I’m allowed to dream, right?). David Bowie went on to make some of the greatest albums of the 1970s, but for me, he never topped Hunky Dory.
-------------Jonathan Hale
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 20:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 20:46 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 3371st place votes: 0total votes: 8
THE FALL - DRAGNET
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 20:59 (eighteen years ago) link
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NEIL YOUNG - TONIGHT'S THE NIGHT
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 21:06 (eighteen years ago) link
Fleetwood Mac go above The Congos because their highest placing was 2nd, compared to 5th. Neil Young and The Fall both had 2nd places, so the total number of votes decides the placing.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 21:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 21:10 (eighteen years ago) link
Dragnet. No contest.
-- Dr. C (Daveatcrossdee...), October 14th, 2002.
The true heart of the mighty Fall beats in the gnarled, beer n' woodbines sound of Dragnet and the early singles.
-- Dr. C (Daveatcrossdee...), February 12th, 2002.
The lowest of lo-fi and absolutely fantastic! Intense, spooky garage fun, AND has some rarely mentioned Fall classic tracks. The best Fall album IMHO.
-- Dr. C (Daveatcrossdee...), July 10th, 2001 1:00 AM.
It's the absolute essence of The Fall, never bettered.
-- Dr. C (Daveatcrossdee...), July 11th, 2001
Dragnet is real Fallmusik - accept no other (except Room To Live, Hex, Witch Trials)
-- Dr C (Daveatcrossdee...), September 10th, 2001
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 21:11 (eighteen years ago) link
(In answer to: Which FALL album do you get first?)
Not a single vote for Dragnet then?
-- Nag! Nag! Nag! (MarquisChaCha...), August 28th, 2003 5:47 AM.
Dragnet
-- Dr. C (Daveatcrossdee...), August 28th, 2003 10:56 AM.
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 21:13 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 3381st place votes: 0total votes: 11
STEELY DAN - PRETZEL LOGIC
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 21:18 (eighteen years ago) link
On the Beach is alright, but Tonight's the Night's peerless.
-- otto (ottomanjense...), March 28th, 2004
The only Neil Young album I can love. There's something so dark and tragic yet playful in it. And you can shout along with it brilliantly.
-- Omar (o.muno...), May 2nd, 2001
"Tonight's the Night" is one of the most gloriously, strangely f***ed up records I've ever heard. He just sounds like his hanging on the edge of complete mental collapse. But oddly indifferent to it. Most of his early solo albums have a similar kind of catastrophic feel to them. I think he's great for bad hangovers.
-- Johnathan (blis...), May 2nd, 2001
in answer to 'Name a so-called classic album which you think is a real stinker':every record by Neil Young except Tonight's the Night. -- o.munoz (o.muno...), January 12th, 2001
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 21:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― RS, Tuesday, 19 April 2005 21:22 (eighteen years ago) link
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― whenuweremine (whenuweremine), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 21:23 (eighteen years ago) link
-- Baaderonixxx le Jeune (fabfon...), November 19th, 2004.
― whenuweremine (whenuweremine), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 21:25 (eighteen years ago) link
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― Paul in Santa Cruz (Paul in Santa Cruz), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 21:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 21:29 (eighteen years ago) link
Hmm, I'm unfamilar with that Coleman record; I've only listened to his 50s and 60s stuff. I guess I should check it out and tuck my tail between my legs.
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 21:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― RS, Tuesday, 19 April 2005 21:33 (eighteen years ago) link
Oh well, this will do for now. More tomorrow.
As I put on Pretzel Logic for the 1st time, I was like wtf, but since I'd put the album on repeat while computerizing all afternoon I soon caught myself singing along.
-- Baaderist (fabfon...), February 13th, 2004.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 21:35 (eighteen years ago) link
100. V/A - 'Pebbles'
More than worth it, for me, for the original of 'I Want Candy', which for some reason I assumed was a Bow Wow Wow original! D'oh!
Oh, and the Standell's 'Dirty Water' (has there been a better song about Boston, ever??)etc etc
-- Bill E, January 24th, 2002
Got both Vol 1 and Vol 2, and they're both worth every! Single! Penny! Lots of great material throughout, and not knowing most of it beforehand just makes it all that much better.
-- Sean Carruthers, January 24th, 2002
I love *all* this stuff more than just about anything.i sometimes find it difficult to *adjust my ears* if I listen to say 20 minutes of Nuggets stuff followed by something with clean, modern production. Somehow you listen to them in different ways, and get used to a particular range of frequencies, or timbres maybe or just the amount of *detail*
-- Dr. C, January 25th, 2002
99. New York Dolls - s/t As a man whose first records were (45) Ride A White Swan and (33) Slade Alive, and who had only gone to a couple of gigs before going to dozens of punk ones, how can I not love the bridge between them.
-- Martin Skidmore (martin.skidmore...), May 4th, 2002
There's something genuinely expressive about Johnny Thunder's guitar playing. He solos all through the songs – often just distorted extended notes. It bears little relation to the 'acceptable' guitar playing of commercial radio; it's even 'decorative,' fragile, or delicate. It makes all the lyrics of the songs much more melancholy, because they're accompanied by this sporadic, almost contrapuntal, harmony. It doesn't sound like other music. I think the producers tried to make up for it by making these random notes really quiet except in the 'proper' places (at the end of the song usually) but you can still hear them, all the time – it's quite disturbing. I guess he's actually listening to what they sound like.
-- Maryann (tedium200...), June 10th, 2001
*Were* they clever or radical? Johansen was clever, Johnny Thunders was radical even if he wouldn't've known why himself. What did their ultra femininity/ultra masculinity mean? it meant that it was 1973 & time to take rock back off the hippies once & forever. & it still is. (1973 I mean).
-- duane zarakov (pfaiga...), June 10th, 2001
98. David Bowie - "Heroes"
Low is elegant, weird, strange and wonderful, but "Heroes" is all that and more, and is probably the album I've listened to from Bowie the most over the years. "Sons of the Silent Age" may actually be my favorite song by him ever, that weird queasy start, sax and synths and more, the sudden imagistic power of the lyrics -- "they never die, they just go to sleep one day" -- and that sudden break into a twisted tearjerker chorus, a pure spotlight/drama queen moment that feels like the most emotional confession of love ever.
-- Ned Raggett (ne...), June 15th, 2004
Heroes is just as interesting and unusual as Low and yet more accessible.
-- wetmink (minksof...), June 15th, 2004 7:09 PM.
Heroes is the only Bowie album I've ever gotten deeply and emotionally attached to.
- Girolamo Savonarola (gsav@smb.net), June 26th, 2003 11:12 PM.
97. Kate Bush - 'The Kick Inside'I do still have a bit of a thing for KB, and, last year, listened to the first three LPs for the first time in ages. The Kick Inside won that particular battle easily though, strangely, I've no desire to listen to 2/3rds of it ever again.
-- Michael Jones (tourajsig...), February 8th, 2002
My favorite is "The Kick Inside"... but then again I love Laura Nyro.
-- Sean (saturns...), January 22nd, 2003 7:06 PM.
Go with her debut, "The Kick Inside". My favorite, and the least freakish (my favorite AND the least freakish??).
-- Sean (saturns...), April 8th, 2003
96. Bruce Springsteen - 'Darkness On The Edge Of Town'What an opening couplet:
I got a sixty-nine Chevy with a 396Fuelie heads and a Hurst on the floor
-- Mark (mar...), July 15th, 2002
The stuff that's good on Darkness is good in some really interesting ways. I think he came into his own there, figured out more what worked for him and what didn't. He kept the big anthems, but he also finally figured out the quiet end -- it's the first album that anticipates Nebraska, especially the title track. And even the anthems got more pointed and pared down. Like, "poor man wanna be rich/ rich man wanna be king/ and a king ain't satisfied until he rules everything/ I wanna go out tonight, I wanna find out what I got" -- I mean, that's a great fucking lyric, especially joined to the jumping-out-of-his-skin throb of the song. It combines dawning political consciousness with adolescent will to power, and suggests without even meaning to the roots of fascism. And it locates all that in small-town Midwestern we-gotta-get-out-of-this-place cockiness, just barely covering up for a growing certainty that he ain't going nowhwere. (Which is kind of the theme of the whole album, I think, even more than "Born to Run" -- on Born to Run there still seemed to be some kind of idea that all that mythic shit would add up to something, but "Darkness" kind of put an end to that.)
Also, for all its cheesiness, I love "Candy's Room" just for the pure horny build and release of it. ("Prove It All Night," on the other hand, never really gets going -- he makes it sound way too much like work.)
-- spittle (ptu...), July 21st, 2004
If anyone asks "what historical moment would you like to have seen", sometimes I think that being present at the first studio playback of the completed "Racing" would be my real answer. I can't imagine what it must've been like to have finished that song, I picture everyone collapsing afterward. It's a song to put on when the only option in life seems to be staring into space and flicking a lit cigarette into the dustbin for every bad decision you've ever made, half in hope that maybe your house will burn down with you still in it. The delivery of the "Callin' out around the world" line is the finest recorded vocal in the history of music. Or one of them, anyway. ("Badlands" - that's more all-purpose put-on-any-time for me, mainly because I can tune out the words if I want to and train the beady rational-crit half of my brain onto the sonics. IMHO "Badlands" is the most intensely political song ever recorded because it would say the same thing even if I couldn't understand the words or even if there WERE no words. (In distorted symbolic form, what it seems to be saying sonically is "Whatever happened to the Vagrants? Does Leslie West ever step out of his limo to buy a hot dog from them? And why are THEY reduced to selling hotdogs when Lou Reed isn't?" ) The social analysis of the song is built into the structure and playing and arrangement and sound etc., whereas most artists attempt to prove they see beyond their own noses by taking stock forms and then singing lists of famous names and appalling historical tragedies over the result.
-- dave q (scrape10...), July 15th, 2002
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― whenuweremine (whenuweremine), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 23:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― Stupornaut (natepatrin), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 23:17 (eighteen years ago) link
i only had one album vote and that was for the Saturday Night Fever soundtrack. I was more about the singles.
― gspm (gspm), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 23:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― peepee (peepee), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 23:27 (eighteen years ago) link
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Now I finally understand the importance of the sleigh bells on "Charlie Freak." Thank you!
― Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 00:36 (eighteen years ago) link
Some great selections so far. My only genuine WTF moment was with 'My Aim Is True' - that album is pish! Oh Alright, the singles are good.
Anyway.......GET DRAGNET!!
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 06:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 07:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 07:15 (eighteen years ago) link
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ROXY MUSIC - ROXY MUSIC
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 08:15 (eighteen years ago) link
But somehow for a long time I had a problem to connect the pop singer Ferry to the more experimental and challenging band Roxy Music which was lauded in music critics circles. And I didn't understand what was so special about them. I don't remember the name of the first song by them I ever listened to and it didn't mark me at all but I know that it was in my philosophy class at school around 1979 (our teacher was young). The class was about existentialism and the teacher said that this song was new wave.
ihttp://musik.antville.org/images/roxymusic/Let's come back to my album of 1972. The cover is the first in a series of sexily dressed women covers. Mauvais goût but in an interesting way. All the women on the first five albums of Roxy Music have in common that they have a stupid artificial expression on their face and that from my point of view their faces are ugly in their false and unapproachable coolness. I suppose that is intended. This is part of the game. It is not the cover that is supposed to turn anyone on. It is just an eye-catcher. A false package if you want. Inside there is one of the most ear-catching records of the seventies. At least it turned me on but it took a long time.
There is a party going on. People talking, tinkling glasses. A seemingly average rock song starts with a kind of bar piano line. Ferry sings forgettable lyrics about the sweetest queen he has ever seen. With his staccato intonation he sounds like the blueprint for David Byrne in the Talking Heads. Phil Manzanera tries to be Jimi Hendrix and he almost succeeds. And suddenly the song takes a turn. The saxophone becomes freestyle, there is some guitar distortion, the piano becomes atonal, the song morphs into a free jazz session. It slows down at the end like as if the record player is plugged off and the speed is slowing down. A nice drum solo and a fireworks noise finish the song.
A lyrical classical oboe theme starts Ladytron. A song for romantic candle-light dinners. But beware this one speeds up. Never trust the beginning of a Roxy Music song. Eno adds some electronic spices to this.
My favourite song is no.3 If There Is Something. The first 90 seconds constitute about the most boring country rock ballad I have ever heard. But when Andy Mackay's sax and later oboe join in and play a new theme everything changes. Suddenly we are in melodramatic land. Ferry sings vibrato as if he had swallowed one gallon of his own tears:
I would do anything for you. I would climb mountai-ai-ai-ns. I would swim all the oceans blue.
The theme is repeated by the piano and varied upon. It is really fascinating how the guitar also merges in. All instruments seem to fuse into one. The oboe is reaching heights where no man has ever been. Ferry almost drowns in his tears now. How can a voice sound so desperate from deep inside? The last minute is a tad boring again with the over and over repeated line When you were young but the four minutes in between 1'30'' and 5'30'' are about the most exciting four minutes in any piece of rock I know.
Marginal note: I just read here in the AMG that there is a probably even superior 12 minute (!) live version of this song performed at the John Peel radio show in January 1972. I really need this now.
The next song is Virginia Plain and I think I'll finish now as everyone will know this anyway. As sparkling as rock music can get. I have to add that there is no weak song on this album. That there are two small rock mini-operas The Bob (Medley) and Sea Breeze which piss on Supper's Ready or anything released by The Who in this field. 2 H.B. and the beginning of The Bob foreshadow ambient. And there is Would You Believe? which anticipates the dreadful Rocky Horror Picture Show without its one-dimensionality. The end is Bitters End, the party is over, the girl is gone and has found another and Bryan asks
will someone find me?
This was a party as it should be. It was fun but it was a disappointment as well. A good pretext for another party, don't you think?
P.S. This has been published before on my blog but I didn't get the feedback I wanted to get. That's why I have recycled it here.
-- alex in mainhattan (alex6...), February 25th, 2005.
or read the thread: In praise of... the 1st Roxy Music album
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 08:19 (eighteen years ago) link
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ROXY MUSIC - FOR YOUR PLEASURE
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― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 08:35 (eighteen years ago) link
(I got "Stranded" for a pound in Fopp. Havent played it yet)
― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 08:35 (eighteen years ago) link
You jammy get.
― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 08:39 (eighteen years ago) link
Morrissey 1. For Your Pleasure Roxy Music*(*Morrissey claims he can only think of one truly great British album and that this is it)
-- ha ha (a...), June 20th, 2004.
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shite -- autovac (mrichards2...), June 20th, 2004.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 09:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 09:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 09:56 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jeff W (zebedee), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 09:57 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 3481st place votes: 0total votes: 12
STEVIE WONDER - TALKING BOOK
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 09:58 (eighteen years ago) link
I agree with those who say that Talking Book is the pinnacle. But he was pretty much untouchable for a good several album run there. -- o. nate (syne_wav...), February 23rd, 2005.
(from the OPO thread)
talking book by a mile.
-- fact checking cuz (factcheckingcu...), November 11th, 2003.
Talking Book > Innervisions
-- billstevejim (billsteveji...), February 22nd, 2005
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 10:16 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 3481st place votes: 1total votes: 14
SUICIDE - FIRST ALBUM
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― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 10:42 (eighteen years ago) link
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It's great to listen to at night while trying to fall asleep. Very unsettling. -- latebloomer (posercore24...), June 21st, 2004.
i love the space in this album. it's simultaneously huge and claustrophobic, droning and jittering. it'll make you laugh. it'll make you cry. it'll make you come out of the theatre wanting to conquer the world. it's definitely my pick for top romantic comedy of the year. -- Felonious Drunk (wangchungvsah...), June 21st, 2004.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 10:43 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 3521st place votes: 0total votes: 12
MILES DAVIS - ON THE CORNER
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 10:45 (eighteen years ago) link
I didn't get this album until after I had gotten into Can and a lot of electronic dance music - it really seems to be along those lines rather than 'jazz', or even the other Miles fusion records. In a way, it's coming out of Silent Way a lot more than Bitches Brew or Jack Johnson, in the way it was constructed, and the way it gradually unfolds. Right now, I think it's one of the best albums he ever made. -- dleone (d_leon...), June 9th, 2004.
It's fantastic, by far my favourite of his. It set the benchmark for music for the next 30 years (and beyond), most of the possiblities contained in these grooves haven't even been explored yet. -- Billy Dods (butterbubble...), June 9th, 2004.I was expecting something that would need repeat listening before it sounded like music, and instead got a dense but immediately enjoyable slab of energetic funk that doesn't seem any more difficult than, say, James Brown's more abstract live stuff. I'm still baffled by its reputation as Miles's least accessible album.
-- frankiemachine (franki...), June 10th, 2004.
the thing noone has mentioned is how environmental the record is. it's very 'electronic forest,' particularly the last track. i get lost in it. -- milesrules (mile...), June 16th, 2004.
On the Corner was my first Miles Davis album. My initial reaction was to take it back to the shop, but I like it now. Sort of. -- PJ Miller (pjmiller6...), June 10th, 2004.
Miles' "On the Corner"
Just one question - what does it mean to be "very electronic forest"?
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 10:53 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 3581st place votes: 0total votes: 12
CURTIS MAYFIELD - SUPERFLY
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 11:02 (eighteen years ago) link
― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 11:18 (eighteen years ago) link
Curtis Mayfield, Superfly: "Little Child Runnin' Wild", "Pusherman", "Freddie's Dead". Opening a soundtrack with three of the ten best R&B songs ever (in any definition of the genre) in a row is one hell of a feat.-- Nate Patrin (natepatrin550...), April 12th, 2003.
better than Maggot Brain if not Riot--nothing on earth is better than Riot--and does just about the same things as both) -- M Matos (michaelangelomato...), February 27th, 2003.
Go for the Superfly soundtrack, an awesome piece of blaxploitation-funk
-- Patrick (calimer...), May 11th, 2001.
I once walked into a local bar exactly on the opening note of Curtis Mayfield's "Superfly"!!! I felt like they were finally making the movie of my life. I know - I'm a DORK but it was very cool.
-- wallace carothers (wallacecarothersrepentenc...), February 17th, 2004
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 11:23 (eighteen years ago) link
It's pretty rubbish, but at the same time interesting. Don't rush out and get it.
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 11:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 11:26 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 3631st place votes: 0total votes: 12
STEVE REICH - MUSIC FOR 18 MUSICIANS
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 11:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 11:34 (eighteen years ago) link
5 yrs ago) I borrowed 18 musicians from the library and my first thought was 'There's so much music out there'. Well, it made an impression as I was on a diet of guitar and more guitar and... more guitar based music. But I've heard really brilliant and mind-blowing composition since and SR's been left behind.
-- Julio Desouza (juli...), January 1st, 2002.
as for steve reich,i saw music for eighteen musicians performed live recently and it was greattwo things sprung to mind-first of all,how much it sounded like susumu yokotasecondly,you could tell that he had "influenced" (it's seven in the morning and i'm not arsed trying to find a way of phrasing that in such a way as to avoid people complaining about the use of that term,just pretend i did)techno,or more specifically surgeon...
-- robin (robin_lace...), April 24th, 2003.
The ECM version (yes it has to be this one, the pacing and tension are jawdropping) of Music for 18 Musicians is sublime, eternal, terrifyingly beautiful sound. -- Clarke B. (clarkeb...), April 13th, 2004.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 11:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 11:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 11:35 (eighteen years ago) link
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points: 3811st place votes: 1total votes: 12
TALKING HEADS - MORE SONGS ABOUT BUILDINGS AND FOOD
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 12:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 12:55 (eighteen years ago) link
This was my #1 album pick. It stills sounds fresh today, and I can imagine a four piece band playing it. Even though the Talking Heads pulled off their larger bands (Fear of Music, Remain in Light) live, the flow and hooks of their second album could be imagined as played in a small, veryvery exciting, club.
― peepee (peepee), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 13:02 (eighteen years ago) link
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 13:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 13:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 13:41 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 3841st place votes: 1total votes: 14
NEIL YOUNG - ON THE BEACH
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 13:42 (eighteen years ago) link
Ah, what the Hell, I'll just say it's a more rockin' Tonight's The Night, for argument's sake.
-- Vic Funk (doctor_funk_ph...), May 14th, 2003.
Homegrown and Bite the Bullet are two of my favorite songs on the record! Nothing like a bunch of stoned, mean hippies playing thud-rock. I don't get the bad rep for ASB either, I definitely prefer it Zuma and Comes a Time... the country songs are nice and sweet, the rockers are smokin', and it's got one of his bonafide signature tunes, what more could you ask for? -- Shakey Mo Collier (audiobo...), May 14th, 2003.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 13:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 13:45 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 3911st place votes: 0total votes: 12
GRAM PARSONS - GRIEVOUS ANGEL
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 13:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 13:55 (eighteen years ago) link
Grievous Angel? More like grievous listener! (for having to listen to this terrible album!) -- christhamrin (hamr004...), April 10th, 2004.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 13:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― 57 7th (calstars), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 14:02 (eighteen years ago) link
Still, look forward to seeing the top.
― The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 14:04 (eighteen years ago) link
If you're experiencing a sense of deja-vu, its just your imagination.Running away with you.
points: 4001st place votes: 0total votes: 14
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 14:04 (eighteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 14:07 (eighteen years ago) link
Chairs Missing = "HOLY SHIT!" (realized about the time "Mercy" finishes)
-- David Raposa (dave...), January 8th, 2002.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 14:07 (eighteen years ago) link
Surprised that it hasn't started topping Pink Flag in polls like this yet--I thought more and more people were coming around to the notion of it being the superior album.
― The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 14:08 (eighteen years ago) link
I think this is an increasingly widely perceived cosmic truth.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 14:10 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 4001st place votes: 0total votes: 11
STEVIE WONDER - SONGS IN THE KEY OF LIFE
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 14:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 14:13 (eighteen years ago) link
This album was second in the early stages of the poll, and I hoped it would place slightly higher than this. This is far and away my favourite Stevie Wonder album. Sprawling, and perhaps a little unfocussed like the Summer's day it should accompany. There are moments on this album which feel nothing short of blissful. The bigger songs - the distilled joy of Sir Duke and the perhaps-too-widely-played-but-still-glorious Isn't She Lovely - tend to catch the attention on first play, but with subsequent listens you're gladly pulled under as the waves of "Knocks Me Off My Feet" wash on over. If I ever had to drown in an album, well, no, that would be a silly idea...and Stevie wouldn't like that. Its not an album for disappearing under, its one for [insert a better metaphor here if you can think of one - I'm not entirely happy with this one] flying up into the cosmos behind, or within. Even songs dealing with loss - Ordinary Pain and Joy Inside My Tears manage to undermine a slightly mawkish tendency with a brutal honesty:
"I've always thought that tomorrow was for those/ Who are too much afraid/ To go past yesterday and start living in today".
That feeling recurrs throughout the proceedings. Get your ass out of the gutter, try and bring your mind with it, and enjoy it while you're here. Life, that is. But if you want to enjoy your ass, who am I to stop you?
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 14:29 (eighteen years ago) link
The ballads, like on any other Stevie Wonder album, are the best tracks on "Songs In The Key Of Life". Those beautiful melodic ballads are the main reason why I love Stevie Wonder. R&B crap such as "Superstition" you may just throw in the dustbin.
-- Geir Hongro (geirhon...), November 11th, 2003.
I like a pretty good chunk of his stuff (early '70s mostly), but I really can't wrap my head around Songs in the Key of Life. I'm too used to him in WHOMP WHOMP mode ("Do Yourself A Favor"; "Superstition"; "Livin' For the City") when he brings out those robo-Motown inflections to go for that Quincy Jones-incidental-theme steez save "Sir Duke", "Contusion" and "All Day Sucker". -- Stupornaut (natepatri...), February 22nd, 2005.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 14:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― allowed (spaces are allowed), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 14:42 (eighteen years ago) link
It's not just you, because I think most people voted for more singles than albums.
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 14:42 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 4111st place votes: 1total votes: 10
CAN - EGE BAMYASI
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 14:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 14:44 (eighteen years ago) link
The singles list will give me lots of download fodder, too.
― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 14:47 (eighteen years ago) link
Future Days and Ege Bamyasi is both GREBT! -- Nick Southall (n.j.southal...), February 25th, 2003.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 14:50 (eighteen years ago) link
-- MindInRewind (mbvarkestra197...), April 20th, 2005.
Actually, fwiw, I preferred the singles poll too. And yes, there were more votes cast in that poll, although the same number of people (but not the same people) voted in each.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 14:52 (eighteen years ago) link
On a personal note, I just want to thank this thread for getting me through the day...my wife is due today, so I need something to take my mind off the waiting.
― kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 14:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 14:59 (eighteen years ago) link
No, really she's due to give birth.
― kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 15:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 15:06 (eighteen years ago) link
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points: 4171st place votes: 1total votes: 13
BRIAN ENO - ANOTHER GREEN WORLD
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 15:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― Lee F# (fsharp), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 15:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 15:49 (eighteen years ago) link
Now, all I have to do is convince three people they LOVE Yoko in the next 48 hours. I did nominate Approximately Infinite Universe in this poll. Did it chart? You guess.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 15:54 (eighteen years ago) link
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 15:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 16:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 16:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 16:41 (eighteen years ago) link
me too. I can't claim enough familiarity with the nominated albums to really have voted for any of them. When the singles poll is released I presume that I will know most of the tracks and thus feel more connected and interested.
― gspm (gspm), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 18:32 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 4231st place votes: 1total votes: 11
SERGE GAINSBOURG - HISTOIRE DU MELODY NELSON
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 18:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 18:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 19:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 19:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― poortheatre (poortheatre), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 20:26 (eighteen years ago) link
-- fred solinger (fred9157...), May 14th, 2001.
Histoire de Melody Nelson is the only album of his I have and I can't imagine him having bettered it. it's also great for sample-spotting. De La Soul's "it ain't over til the fat lady..." from De La Soul is Dead nicks the crazy frenchfunkrock from track 2, and countless scoundrels have remixed and sampled the 1st and last tracks, none of whom have managed to improve it one jot.
We mustn't underestimate the importance of Serge Gainsbourg. His death raised his profile outside France considerably. Without him, Lounge would have been faceless and anonymous, just Muzak. He provided Neo-Lounge with an Auteurist model to aspire to. 'Melody Nelson' is a Lounge album, but also the script for an imaginary film. None of the neo-Lounge artists have yet matched its ambition.
-- Momus (nic...), July 13th, 2001
I bought it when I was staying at a mate's and he was very sceptical. I put it on and could hardly believe how good it was - everything I'd expected. Of course then I left it at someone's flat after a party and have never seen it again.
-- Tom (ebro...), October 12th, 2002
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 21:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― jmeister (jmeister), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 21:18 (eighteen years ago) link
"Histoire de Melody Nelson is the only album of his ... none of whom have managed to improve it one jot" paragraph was:
-- heronette (heronett...), August 30th, 2001
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 21:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― Mike O. (Mike Ouderkirk), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 21:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 21:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 23:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sym Sym (sym), Thursday, 21 April 2005 00:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 21 April 2005 10:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Thursday, 21 April 2005 19:42 (eighteen years ago) link
Maybe hobart's answer was melody nelson?
― poortheatre (poortheatre), Friday, 22 April 2005 00:38 (eighteen years ago) link
I think I'd like that album. Although I'll skip the suicide.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Friday, 22 April 2005 10:02 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 4241st place votes: 0total votes: 15
NICK DRAKE - PINK MOON
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Friday, 22 April 2005 10:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Friday, 22 April 2005 10:21 (eighteen years ago) link
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― Alba (Alba), Friday, 22 April 2005 10:23 (eighteen years ago) link
I prefer Bryter Layter myself, but apparently the rest of you don't.
Pink Moon is a perfect album. -- Mark (r-...), March 11th, 2005.
A preference for Pink Moon makes me think of very difficult men who aren't much fun to be around, at least if they don't find it a difficult call.
-- Alba (albab...), March 11th, 2005.
Pink Moon, on the other hand, is fantastic. IMHO I think it's the "fullest"-sounding of his albums, because even though the instrumentation is "sparse" Nick is able to fill in all corners with just fingerpicking and his voice; every creaking of his fingernail against a guitar string carries the resonance of a thousand Bryter Layters. And despite the constant criticism over the mythologizing of Nick, there really is a transcendent emotional quality to the album that gets to me. It's not depressing; the whole album feels like a cool summer morning at 4 AM, with dawn just faintly lurching over the horizon. It's a feeling of solitude, brushing against sadness occasionally, but certainly not despair.
Alba, I'm not much fun to be around, but I think that's for reasons other than the fact that I'm a pretentious Pink Moon whore ;)
-- I'll Fall With Your Curt1sss (curtis.stephen...), March 11th, 2005.
pink moon is his best album, as well as one of my favorite albums ever recorded. five leaves left and bryter layter are brilliant, but just don't capture the harrowing beauty of nick and his guitar.anyone who bashes nick drake is a hater and a liar.
nick drake 24 hours a day. wine and sunshine. love it.
-- rockaction (ts67...), March 12th, 2005.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Friday, 22 April 2005 10:24 (eighteen years ago) link
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Friday, 22 April 2005 10:27 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 4371st place votes: 0total votes: 16
ELVIS COSTELLO - THIS YEAR'S MODEL
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Friday, 22 April 2005 10:28 (eighteen years ago) link
So, I ended up with "20 Jazz Funk Greats" instead.
Yes. That one.
― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 22 April 2005 10:47 (eighteen years ago) link
-- Anthony Miccio (anthonymicci...), April 17th, 2003.
He wouldn't have been much without the Attractions, I don't think. I believe it was Langdon Winner, writing in Harper's when "Imperial" appeared, who said that EC knew more about music than anyone else who had previously played rock music...and while I do think he knows a lot, I've always found him to be a guy who played at being smart but whose opinions were actually fairly pedestrian. Anyway, if you've ever sat down to play any of EC's tunes, you'll find that he relies on the same tricks in every song, and I think they sound exactly like tricks or mannerisms and not the work of someone really attempting to do something cool with the pop-music format. EC's world is just such an enclosed one--you could say the same thing about Brian Wilson, except that Wilson's stuff does have that certain something else that opens up as opposed to closes you in. Basically, when I hear Elvis Costello now I want to run from the room, another great example of hidden woman-hating and so forth disguised under stupid wordplay and the typically English addiction to "the great tradition of pop music" and all that shit...uncharitable, I suppose, and a bit unfair. When I see EC's mug these days I simply cannot bear it, stop it, man, stop it... -- eddie hurt (eddshur...), January 13th, 2004.
To me, the anger on This Year's Model feels more adolescent, brighter, and more optimistic even as it spits and condemns. -- Kenan Hebert (khebert...), August 3rd, 2003.
i've always thought Elvis Costello (another glaring omission here, guys!) never outdid this year's model (which also rocks pretty hard):
-- Tad (llamasfu...), April 29th, 2003.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Friday, 22 April 2005 10:56 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 4461st place votes: 0total votes: 13
NEIL YOUNG - AFTER THE GOLD RUSH
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Friday, 22 April 2005 10:59 (eighteen years ago) link
There are the obvious favourites on this album - has anyone ever done fucked-up comedown better than the title track? (I expect at least one post saying YES in response to this, but never mind..); the terrifying imagery of "Don't Let It Bring You Down" and "Birds" which is just plain beautiful and I can't believe I didn't nominate it for this poll. Even the "throwaway" tracks, though, are fantastic. The cynicism of "'Til the Morning Comes" always makes me smile. And cringe a little. Every track on this album makes me feel something bigger than whatever I was feeling before. I've never skipped one of them (though I've played "Birds" on repeat far too often).
Oh, and then there's the song that helped kick start St. Etienne's career. But that's another matter entirely.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Friday, 22 April 2005 11:11 (eighteen years ago) link
There are the obvious favourites on this album - has anyone ever done fucked-up comedown better than the title track? (I expect at least one post saying YES in response to this, but never mind..); the terrifying imagery of "Don't Let It Bring You Down"; and "Birds" which is just plain beautiful and I can't believe I didn't nominate it for this poll. Even the "throwaway" tracks, though, are fantastic. The cynicism of "'Til the Morning Comes" always makes me smile. And cringe a little. Every track on this album makes me feel something bigger than whatever I was feeling before. I've never skipped one of them (though I've played "Birds" on repeat far too often).
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Friday, 22 April 2005 11:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 22 April 2005 11:15 (eighteen years ago) link
It is a great album and a great song. It's been many years since I've played it, one day I will again. Did I mention how great the song is? I read somewhere that a bunch of copies were pressed with the image in the gatefold mistakenly being the image from "The Slider".
-- Sean (saturns...), July 26th, 2002.
I think it is perhaps the most repugnant album ever made. Second only to Harvest. -- davidh(owie) (howied41'@hotmail.com), July 25th, 2002.
after the goldrush was a screenplay, but it was never turned into a movie. this is why it is not on IMDB.neil young is NOT a blues singer. anyone who makes this mistake does not know music. neil was first and formost a folk singer. his rock is amplified folk, or folk-rock (with a bit of country.)the best example of this was everybody knows this is nowhere.(for the heavy)or goldrush(for the folkie)
-- brian goldberg (rabbitfighte...), January 29th, 2003.
THere is absolutely NO excuse for anybody on "I love Music" to not own at least one Neil Young CD (preferably either "harvest", "everybody knows this is nowhere" or "after the goldrush")shame
-- geeg (gee...), January 6th, 2004.However, "After The Goldrush", "Harvest" and "Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere" are great. Out of his later material, "Harvest Moon" is the one sounding more like Young at his best than any of the others.-- Geir Hongro (geirhon...), March 6th, 2003.
I ask because while I know it qualifies as a "classic" by radio standards, its such a weird song. That whole album is pretty fucked up, with enigmatic lyrics and nonsensical song styling, and it makes it great. But Southern Man is one of Neil's first songs where his trademark overdriven guitar tone combines with a brooding bend-solos, providing one of the first bit of classic electric Neil. However, that pounding piano is just so damned chaotic and the vocals are a bit too over the top for me.... Opinions? -- Bryan Moore (BWMUConn...), February 28th, 2005.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Friday, 22 April 2005 11:22 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 4541st place votes: 1total votes: 16
BIG STAR - RADIO CITY
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Which is the real front cover? YOU TELL ME.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Friday, 22 April 2005 11:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― Lee F# (fsharp), Friday, 22 April 2005 11:32 (eighteen years ago) link
The second
― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 22 April 2005 11:36 (eighteen years ago) link
I keep trying, because so many smart people love it...but I have to agree. It sounds okay, but never compelling. -- Not That Chuck (noemai...), January 9th, 2004.
Overrated? Cheap Trick? Teenage Fanclub?Daisy Glaze, September Gurls, O My soul, Life Is White, Whats Goin Ahn, Back Of A Car, Way Out West....these songs don't really sound like anything or anybody else. Thats why attempts to rip them off always sound more like the Raspberries or Cheap Trick and miss out on whatever it is that makes them sound unique. -- David Nolan (dnola...), January 9th, 2004.I like 'Radio City' because of its ultimate middle-albumness, the way it's still got some of the pop sheen/focus of the 1st alb but at the same time already seems to be sliding down ("any downs at all") into the total breakdown/collapse of the 3rd alb - and yeah, Jody Stephens on 'Radio City', sure is some of the most distinctive rock drumming I've ever heard.
There are maybe more great songs on the first alb, but there are no total duds on the 2nd (I can't really face the 3rd one too much any more and besides, 'Like Flies on Sherbert' is more fun, more scary and just generally more drunken/drugged/wigged out)
-- Andrew L (theplum...), January 9th, 2004.
Radio City is one of my all-timers, but I do know exactly what Anthony means, it does feel sluggish, almost drunken, lovably woozy without being sloppy. I'm listening to right now for the very first time in a long time, and I'm actually amazed how short the songs -- in my mind they're twice as long as they really are!The first time I ever heard #1 Record/Radio City I feel asleep. Listening to it conscious, I found it impressive but not heart-tugging; then a year later it all seemed to make perfect sense.
It's like Beatles '65 played in Al Jackson time but not funky in any obvious way. It's hard to describe.
-- Michael Daddino (epicharmu...), January 10th, 2004.
Anyone else bothered to check out the lyrics to Daisy Glaze?The music in the 'third section' is this ecstatic, life-affirming rush, all ringing chords beautifully layered, and i always thought the lyrics would match the same feeling. Instead they're about Chilton getting in a bar-brawl... 'who is this whore?' Totally changes the feel of the song, not necessarily for the worse though.(RE White Album comparisms - this is clearly their 'Happiness is a Warm Gun') -- pete s (petesesnai...), January 10th, 2004.
All I know is, "Jesus Christ" has the most perfect electricguitar I have ever heard, I wish I could play EXACTLY like that.
-- Squirrel_Police (goblinatri...), January 10th, 2004.
i am a huge powerpop fan and always thought Big Star were over-rated. -- Orbit (JustOneOpinio...), January 12th, 2004.
I like 'When my baby's beside me' best. I remember reading somewhere that Gordon Brown is a huge Big Star fan, i'd love to think it was true. -- leigh (melodynelso...), January 12th, 2004.
#1 Record is pretty kickass throughout, but I think Radio City only has a few great songs and then it's all a blur. I'm willing to admit, though, that this may because once you make it to the second half of the CD yer kinda fatigued...(ie, I have the twofer)) -- John 2 (poo...), January 10th, 2004.
The "clunkiness" is what prevents it from sounding like The Raspberries - well, that and the superior songwriting, singing and playing -- Dadaismus (kcoyne3...), January 12th, 2004.
Radio City is great, start to finish. Third is more innovative, # 1 is a bit more conventional pop music. Stuff like the Raspberries sounds frantic and contrived now, whereas the "sluggish" Big Star, with their mastery of tempo...get it? sound just fine now. Radio City doesn't mean to squash you with its rock and roll power, etc. So if you want that, look elsewhere. Cheap Trick! I mean, entertaining and not bad, but it's completely one-dimensional, which they mean to be. There's room for both "September Gurls" and "Southern Girls," thanks, and I do think that the critical response to Big Star has always been a bit ridiculous; there is something flawed and a real drag about Chilton in general and Big Star in particular that one has to come to grips with, and most critics aren't, ahem, chickwithdick enough to say this...but Radio City is supposed to be a drag anyway, that's the point, so it achieves its goal even more subversively than the more obviously screwed-up Third.The songwriting isn't always great but it's the way it's done that matters; and as an expression of stasis that still "rocks" or whatever, Radio City is hard to beat...
-- eddie hurt (eddshur...), January 12th, 2004.
I think an article in Mojo (yes Mojo) a few years back by Barney Hoskyns (maybe) got exactly why they stand out from a dozen other superficially similar Power-pop bands : theres a darkness to the music, in the arrangements,in that "sluggishness", but especially in the lyrics, that Cheap Trick or the Raspberries could never replicate. Maybe because Chilton was such an asshole and Bell was such a fuck-up. whatever, its there in the sound, difficult to identify exactly, difficult to articulate but apparent to anybody who knows the songs well.Or to put it another way : Big Star rule!! -- David Nolan (dnola...), January 13th, 2004.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Friday, 22 April 2005 11:46 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 4561st place votes: 1total votes: 19
THE CLASH - THE CLASH
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Friday, 22 April 2005 11:49 (eighteen years ago) link
Agreed. -- Jazzbo (jmcga...), January 11th, 2005.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Friday, 22 April 2005 11:51 (eighteen years ago) link
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Friday, 22 April 2005 12:06 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 4961st place votes: 0total votes: 20
THE VELVET UNDERGROUND - LOADED
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Friday, 22 April 2005 12:09 (eighteen years ago) link
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― Lee F# (fsharp), Friday, 22 April 2005 12:21 (eighteen years ago) link
-- Sterling Clover (s_clove...), April 26th, 2003.
Loaded (on the tracks where Lou sings) is where Lou's voice comes into its own (by Rock & Roll heart he sounded way younger, and prior to Loaded he was sounding too callow
Sterling Clover (s_clover@empty.org), April 26th, 2003.
Loaded: I like "Sweet Jane." I like "Rock and Roll." I like "Oh Sweet Nuthin'!" The rest ssssuuuuuuccccckkkkkkkkkssssssssss.
-- Evan (savage156...), April 27th, 2003.
As for albums, I would say "Velvet Underground & Nico" and "Velvet Underground" are the ones that contain most great songs, while "Loaded" is the only one that contains nothing that is so totally unlistenable it has to be skipped every time.
-- Geir Hongro (geirhon...), April 27th, 2003.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Friday, 22 April 2005 12:24 (eighteen years ago) link
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― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 22 April 2005 12:30 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 4971st place votes: 1total votes: 13
THE ROLLING STONES - STICKY FINGERS
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Friday, 22 April 2005 12:32 (eighteen years ago) link
"Sticky Fingers," the penultimate entry in the Rolling Stones'hallowed "middle period" of the late sixties-early seventies, remainsthe tightest LP they ever made. While "Exile" has the messy,double-LP sprawl and "Beggars" a few throwaways, "Sticky Fingers" isinch-perfect: a note-for-note masterstroke that finds the Stones nolonger channeling the blues, soul, country and early rock 'n' rollsides they so adored, but instead transcending those genres with ahazy, drugged-out confidence. From the boozy, Parsons-inflectedcountry of "Wild Horses," to the desperate Stax-soul of "I Got theBlues," the Stones not only prove to be the worthy inheritors of thegenres they long parroted; rather, the knowing perfection of thesesides (dare I say?) obscures their sources, rendering them almostsecondary.
by Keith C
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Friday, 22 April 2005 12:33 (eighteen years ago) link
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Friday, 22 April 2005 12:35 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 5051st place votes: 0total votes: 18
WIRE - PINK FLAG
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Friday, 22 April 2005 12:38 (eighteen years ago) link
as an album, straight through...PINK FLAG. It's just perfect. -- Gage-o (gcb...), January 8th, 2002.
The typical line is that Pink Flag is the punk rawk record, and that from there on out they get increasingly "difficult." I think though that PF is probably *more* difficult in a sense than CM or (esp.) 154. Perhaps I haven't given it enough time or attention, but half the time when it's on I don't even notice it's there, or the songs just fly by (it having songs < 1 min doesn't help I'm sure). It feels like more of an exercise--"let's make the absolute most minimalist punk imaginable"--than say 154, which to my ears is far more texturally interesting, musically varied, and in a sense beautiful. -- Clarke B. (clarkeb...), January 11th, 2002.
Actually I was never terribly impressed with "Pink Flag" - for me, it grew increasingly tedious after a dozen listenings. But Wire certainly deserve praise for inspiring Minutemen and (presumably) Minor Threat.
-- Myonga Von Bontee (scottyfield...), March 3rd, 2004.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Friday, 22 April 2005 12:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Friday, 22 April 2005 13:05 (eighteen years ago) link
Loaded is their best album -- nate detritus (n***p*****550...), January 21st, 2004 12:02 AM.
I'm kind of on the fence about VU apart from Loaded which is just sensational.-- Dr.C (petethane...), July 23rd, 2004 3:16 PM.
Even though Loaded has nothing to do with White Light, White Heat, it's a great soft-rock album. -- Huk-L (handsomishbo...), February 23rd, 2005 9:01 PM.
The worst song on "Loaded" is still better than the best thing on 99.9999999999999999999% of other albums -- Dadaismus (kcoyne3...), November 14th, 2003 3:10 PM.
I *always* hated Loaded when I was younger. Maybe I just wasn't old enough to understand it at the time or something, I don't know. It just sounded like coked-up disco-boogie with that bad 70s production, I wanted the noise and the feedback and all that! So I didn't listen to it for years. And then I gave it a chance when I got the box set (perhaps it was the alternate mixes that did it) and I utterly loved it. -- Ma$onic Boom (masonicboo...), July 23rd, 2004 1:51 PM.
Oh Sweet Nuthin is SOOOOO good. I bet Reed would've ruined it by making it more snarly/less pretty. -- Shakey Mo Collier (audiobo...), June 1st, 2004 11:37 PM.
"Oh! Sweet Nuthin'" - 'tis good. And Doug Yule's best vocal performance, period. Plus tasty S. Morrison guitar lead. This song's better than anything on 'Sticky Fingers'. Listen to how shit Reed's vocals are on 'Loaded'. In fact, listen to the caterwauling racket that is the "Oh! Sweet Nuthin'" demo on that 'Fully Loaded' dealie. Lou sounds like a cat in heat. Thankfully he didn't sing on the "official" version. Only thing lacking on this track is Mo Tucker on drums. Am I the only one who finds this song/performance (esp. Yule's vocal) proto-Big Star (say, 'Sister Lovers')? Alex Chilton could've/should've done this one, but, absence of Mo Tucker aside, I think the song is perfect as it is. -- Kjoerup (s_kjoeru...), November 14th, 2003 10:11 PM.
In what universe is Loaded's greatness disputed? -- dan. (dan_haa...), February 23rd, 2005 8:21 PM.
― Alba (Alba), Friday, 22 April 2005 13:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Friday, 22 April 2005 13:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 22 April 2005 13:10 (eighteen years ago) link
cheers Alba. i'm not exactly convinced, but i am utterly gobsmacked. there's no accounting for taste, i suppose.
― Lee F# (fsharp), Friday, 22 April 2005 13:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― danski (danski), Friday, 22 April 2005 13:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― $V£N! (blueski), Friday, 22 April 2005 13:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― 57 7th (calstars), Friday, 22 April 2005 13:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― Keith C (kcraw916), Friday, 22 April 2005 13:44 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 5101st place votes: 1total votes: 12
CAN - TAGO MAGO
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Friday, 22 April 2005 14:11 (eighteen years ago) link
what's the insane one on Tago Mago? with the ridiculous drum machine passages and the shrieking? I like that one best.-- gaz (gary.lo...), February 25th, 2003.
The funkiest is also the noodliest (Tago Mago)-- sexyDancer (jjjjjjjjjj...), May 21st, 2004.
tago mago = higher peaks, wider valleys than ege bamyasi. -- el sabor de gene (yn...), May 22nd, 2004.
"Tago Mago", "Ege Bamyasi" and "Future Days" are never far from my stereo and despite many, many spins still sound fresh as a daisy.-- steve (heligolande...), August 21st, 2003.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Friday, 22 April 2005 14:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 22 April 2005 14:24 (eighteen years ago) link
You might want to get over that. After the Gold Rush is an amazing, amazing album, but far from his best. If Rest Never Sleeps isn't in the top five, this forum is broken.
― Shakey, Friday, 22 April 2005 14:25 (eighteen years ago) link
Sorry - I don't know much about Can (although I'm intrigued, having seen the results so far) so didn't know that one wasn't right.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Friday, 22 April 2005 14:27 (eighteen years ago) link
some bad news:
61 points: 2961st place votes: 0total votes: 9
― Lee F# (fsharp), Friday, 22 April 2005 14:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 22 April 2005 14:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― Shakey, Friday, 22 April 2005 14:31 (eighteen years ago) link
er... "lonesome cowboy bill"?
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 22 April 2005 14:38 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 5131st place votes: 0total votes: 18
DAVID BOWIE - LOW
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Friday, 22 April 2005 14:41 (eighteen years ago) link
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― peepee (peepee), Friday, 22 April 2005 14:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― Lee F# (fsharp), Friday, 22 April 2005 14:48 (eighteen years ago) link
Speed of life is the intro; it sets the mood.
Breaking Glass is the first vocal track and it starts the theme of alienation and romantic disconnection. Rather than using an ice cream parlor for milkshakes cold and long, or the dream car twenty feet long, he makes the first use of the bedroom as a symbol for isolation. The lyrics are so abstract but you know exactly the feeling he is trying to convey. Rather than using elaborate lyrics to express an idea, situations become less defined and the sound is what communicates the emotion. This definitely ties into Eno's theory that lyrics in rock music are nothing but decoration, and that the real message is timbral.
What In The World is track three and this time the mood switches from agitation to extreme euphoria. The euphoria is not a healthy, genuine happiness, but more like the upward pendulum swing of bipolar disorder. The paranoia and claustrophobia of Breaking Glass is still lurking in the background, but it is submerged in the lyrics, not the delivery. The desire is there, but somehow the connection cannot be created.
This theme would make sense because Bowie's marriage to Angela was breaking up, and he went to Berlin to kick the cocaine addiction he had picked up in LA during the Thin White Duke period of his career. Bowie has said that at the time he was confused and internally divided, so Berlin in 1976, a divided city, was the most logical place to live.
Sound And Vision is track four and it takes the upward mood swing to its highest point. It is the closest thing this album has to a super pop hit, and even at that it fails. Again, it uses the symbol of bedroom as symbol of isolation, but it makes you wonder if this is a set of chemicals talking, or perhaps really a come down? Has this person just accepted his place? Is he coming to terms with the situation? Perhaps the character is simply found solace in art, for a brief time at least. Although the mood is relatively up, it is still very emotionally ambiguous.
Always Crashing The Same Car is the lowest point on Low. The image of tearing though a parking structure is a metaphor for reckless, perhaps even suicidal behavior. It also echoes the central image of enclosed, stifling spaces. The track title refers to repeated failures in life, in the context of the album, repeated failures at real emotional connection. The emotional pendulum has swung the other way to nearly suicidal depression. The vibe is stark and brooding, it is recognition.
Be My Wife is number six. Most people think that this is a love song, but this song has absolutely nothing to do with a healthy emotional relationship. This is the sound of desperation, of clutching at straws. This is like love as an emotional high, a means of escape. The music is up, but the lyrics and vocal delivery are that of a desperate man. No matter what the long-term consequences of his actions are, he needs deliverance at this very moment. Anything to escape.
New Career in a New Town is the final track on side one. The music suggests hopeful optimism and movement. I always think of the pistons of a train when I listen to the bassline of this song. It has no lyrics, and it introduces the next side as the second part of this person’s life. It is more ambiguous but no less emotional.
The ambient half of the album follows a more linear trajectory. It starts out with the sublime quarter note octave pulsation of Warszawa, and the mood declines from there. Although Warszawa is the more obvious cut, Art Decade is the better track. It is subtler and a bit darker. Whatever relief the protagonist found in travel and the anonymity of a new life, the magic is starting to fade. The mood continues to decline into madness by the end of Subterraneans.
Was Bowie dragging in his fears of potential madness into the end of the album? Did he use the abstract nature of the lyrics and synthetic timbres on the second half as a vehicle to express the disassociated and incommunicable nature of mental illness? Was he expressing his personal fears of being schizophrenic like the older brother who introduced him to music in the first place?
I don't know, but it does give this album an interesting perspective. This is one of the few records I can say that I have truly lived in. I am not exactly sure what that says about me, or the frame of mind I was in during the later years of my teens.
-- Disco Nihilist (current31...), October 16th, 2003.
Rank David Bowie Here is my ranking:1. Low
-- Geir Hongro (geirhon...), November 4th, 2003.
I'd have to say that my favorite Bowie album would be Low because it has such classics as "Always Crashing in the Same Car", "Speed of Life", and "Warszawa
-- Innocent Dreamer (deethe_downspamdown_lurke...), June 26th, 2003.
Lodger is brilliant and almost Bowie's best although ultimately I think Low pips it to the post
-- pj proby (pjprob...), February 1st, 2005.
I never listen to it as a whole, despite playing it on cd. It's either one or the other. I'd dip into selected tracks on a lot of albums - but this one is different, because I'd only ever be intersted in hearing one particular set of tracks or the other.I think I prefer side 1. On side 2, Warszawa dwarfs the other ambient tracks in terms of beauty. But the first half has a handful of short, sharp shocks which i thoroughly enjoy. After hearing those, i don't have the patience for the slower tracks. but if i'm in the mood for something less kinetic, they'll more than suffice.
this is the only bowie album i'd listen to, tbh.
-- kilian Murphy (kilian.murphy2...), October 15th, 2003.
One of two records which actually did change my life. I need say no more. -- Marcello Carlin (marcellocarli...), October 15th, 2003.One side is a pop record, the other a film soundtrack. Taking sides: chalk or cheese? Then again, I suppose you could say that Sides One of Low and Heroes, put together, would be the most fantastic Bowie pop record ever made, and that Sides Two of Low and Heroes would be... a fairly average prime period Eno ambient release. -- Momus (nic...), October 15th, 2003.
Side 1 is one of Bowie's best ever, but I still choose side 2, which is one of the most beautiful pieces of instrumental music ever recorded.
-- Geir Hongro (geirhon...), October 15th, 2003.
Sides two of "Low" and "Heroes" put together would have been the best electronic album ever, dwarfing all of Eno's other work, including the rather decent "Another Green World"
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Friday, 22 April 2005 14:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Friday, 22 April 2005 14:59 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 5211st place votes: 2total votes: 17
JONI MITCHELL - BLUE
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Friday, 22 April 2005 15:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― 57 7th (calstars), Friday, 22 April 2005 15:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 22 April 2005 15:09 (eighteen years ago) link
those contrarian pink flag blurbs=INEXCUSABLE!
Pink Flag Tago Mago and Low should've been 1, 2 and 3!
― latebloomer: venting el pissyranto (latebloomer), Friday, 22 April 2005 15:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― whenuweremine (whenuweremine), Friday, 22 April 2005 15:14 (eighteen years ago) link
― kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Friday, 22 April 2005 15:16 (eighteen years ago) link
ILM TOP 100 of the 70s >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pitchfork Top 100 of the 70s
It all depends on how T.E.E., M.M, U.P. and M.B./S.E. perform, though. (I abbreviated to avoid spoiling for some)
― poortheatre (poortheatre), Friday, 22 April 2005 15:26 (eighteen years ago) link
This isn't a perfect album. It sags in parts, and flows in others..occasionally it becomes mawkish, and unashamedly sentimental and Joni's voice wobbles around like an octopus on a unicycle. Despite, or perhaps because of this, its still the most played, and most loved, album in my collection.
This is how Joni is, this is how life is, happy and sad at the same time; raw, sometimes difficult, perhaps just slightly unhinged - in the nicest possible way. From the moment she starts singing about wanting to shampoo her lover, and the frying pan being too wide, you know you're listening to something deeply personal, and individual. Yet despite this, there's a passion, a deep sincerity and, above all, an utter, harsh, honesty here that tempers the sentiment, and makes it bearable, and recognisable, and makes it feel like somewhere you've been, and are, and will go again.
For me, the stand-out track is "A Case Of You". The opening lines -
"Just before our love got lost, you said 'I am as constant as a Northern Star' and I said 'constantly in the darkness, where's that?If you want me I'll be in the bar".
- encapsulate what I love about Joni. There's the simultaneous romanticism and cynicism that she reflects upon at length in the disturbingly direct "The Last Time I Saw Richard". On the one hand, she's scared of being hurt again, on the other, she's desperate to stay open to it all, and the harsh words and the distance are only there to cover what she's afraid of showing. Sure enough, she goes and sits in the bar, the TV screen light playing on her face, and draws his picture on a beermat.
Other albums dress her directness up with flourishes and more lavish instrumentation. Blue is bare by comparison - just her and an accoustic guitar (plus a piano in "River"). Nothing is prettified, and the impact is stronger, and the connection more complete. Sure they're stories, but to my mind nobody ever told stories in quite such a compelling manner. And they're the best ones she ever told.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Friday, 22 April 2005 15:26 (eighteen years ago) link
-- latebloomer: venting el pissyranto (posercore24...), April 22nd, 2005.
I posted what I could find, given that searching ILM is pretty slow at the best of times, and it is slowing putting the poll results up consideratly. If you don't like them, please find some more to your liking and post those here.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Friday, 22 April 2005 15:31 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 5461st place votes: 1total votes: 19
BRIAN ENO - HERE COME THE WARM JETS
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Friday, 22 April 2005 15:35 (eighteen years ago) link
Jared
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Friday, 22 April 2005 15:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Friday, 22 April 2005 15:49 (eighteen years ago) link
1. Isn't this the most horrid cover in the history of recorded music?
2. Wouldn't the still life without the framed photograph and without the "Eno" writing in rainbow colours be just about ok?
3. Doesn't Brian Peter George St John le Baptiste de la Salle alias Brian Eno look like a certain Christa Päffgen from Cologne aka Nico on the photo?
place your comment! nonightsweats, Thursday, 5. August 2004, 00:18 1. no, it's easily the best cover ever made.2. no, it would make it worse.3. yes, he does indeed.
when i first saw the cover i thought it was a band called End and didn't realize until later that it was the new Eno album i was desperately looking for.
― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Friday, 22 April 2005 15:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Friday, 22 April 2005 16:16 (eighteen years ago) link
to get an idea of one possible meaning of the title look closer at that small 8 of spades in the middle part below eno's framed portait with the policeman and the crouching woman. couldn't find a bigger image of that though i am sure it must be out there somewhere.
― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Friday, 22 April 2005 16:20 (eighteen years ago) link
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― Deluxe (Damian), Saturday, 23 April 2005 10:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Saturday, 23 April 2005 13:20 (eighteen years ago) link
Alternate Blue, indeed... I didn't spot that when I posted the cover. I just thought it was a nice big picture of it. The one on Amazon looked sort of...grey...which defeats the point, really. I wonder what Alternate Blue can be.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Saturday, 23 April 2005 14:50 (eighteen years ago) link
-- alex in mainhattan (alex6...), April 22nd, 2005.
I'm afraid not, Alex.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Saturday, 23 April 2005 15:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Saturday, 23 April 2005 15:09 (eighteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 23 April 2005 15:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sundar (sundar), Saturday, 23 April 2005 15:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Saturday, 23 April 2005 15:54 (eighteen years ago) link
100. VA - Nuggets99. New York Dolls - s/t98. David Bowie - Heroes97. Kate Bush - The Kick Inside96. Bruce Springsteen - Darkness On the Edge of Town95. The Cure - Three Imaginary Boys94. Augustus Pablo - King Tubby Meets Rockers Uptown93. Philip Glass - Einstein on the Beach92. Sparks - Kimono My House91. Cheap Trick - Live at Budokan90. Steely Dan - Countdown to Ecstacy89. Sparks - No. 1 in Heaven88. Can - Future Days87. The B52s - The B52s86. Parliament - Funkentelechy Vs. the Placebo Syndrome85. Leonard Cohen - Songs of Love and Hate84. Iggy and the Stooges - Raw Power83. The Slits - Cut82. Nick Drake - Bryter Layter81. The Beach Boys - Surf's Up80. Neu! - Neu!79. The Beatles - Let It Be78. John Lennon - Plastic Ono Band77. Funkadelic - Maggot Brain76. Big Star - Third75. John Cale - Paris 191974. Donna Summer - On the Radio73. Miles Davis - A Tribute to Jack Johnson72. Marvin Gaye - Let's Get It On71. Parliament - The Mothership Connection70. Brian Eno - Taking Tiger Mountain (By Strategy)69. VA - Saturday Night Fever68. Wire - 15467. Led Zeppelin - Houses of the Holy66. Led Zeppelin - IV65. Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here64. Big Star - #1 Record63. Black Sabbath - Paranoid62. David Bowie - Station to Station61. Neil Young - Rust Never Sleeps60. Elvis Costello - My Aim Is True59. Miles Davis - Bitches Brew58. Bob Dylan - The Basement Tapes57. The Congos - Heart of the Congos56. Fleetwood Mac - Rumors55. Ornette Coleman - Dancing in Your Head54. Richard and Linda Thompson - I Want To See the Bright Lights Tonight53. David Bowie - Hunky Dory52. The Fall - Dragnet51. Neil Young - Tonight's the Night50. Steely Dan - Pretzel Logic49. Roxy Music - Roxy Music48. Roxy Music - For Your Pleasure47. Stevie Wonder - Talking Book46. Suicide - First Album45. Miles Davis - On the Corner44. Curtis Mayfield - Superfly43. Steve Reich - Music For 18 Musicians42. Talking Heads - More Songs About Buildings and Food41. Neil Young - On the Beach40. Gram Parsons - Grievous Angel39. Wire - Chairs Missing38. Stevie Wonder - Songs in the Key of Life37. Can - Ege Bamyesi36. Brian Eno - Another Green World35. Serge Gainbourg - Histoire Du Melody Nelson34. Nick Drake - Pink Moon33. Elvis Costello - This Year's Model32. Neil Young - After the Goldrush31. Big Star - Radio City30. The Clash - The Clash29. The Velvet Underground - Loaded28. The Rolling Stones - Sticky Fingers27. Wire - Pink Flag26. Can - Tago Mago25. David Bowie - Low24. Joni Mitchell - Blue23. Brian Eno - Here Come the Warm Jets
― whenuweremine (whenuweremine), Saturday, 23 April 2005 16:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― o. nate (onate), Saturday, 23 April 2005 17:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Saturday, 23 April 2005 17:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Saturday, 23 April 2005 17:30 (eighteen years ago) link
Anyway, I'm a bit surprised too there's no Fela Kuti on the list at all (was anyhthing besides "Zombie" even nominated?). I guess he could still make it, but I'm kinda doubtful...
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Sunday, 24 April 2005 11:11 (eighteen years ago) link
Then again, our #1 album isn't "Low", which counts for a lot, but the rest of the Pitchfork top 20 is pretty good.
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 24 April 2005 13:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Sunday, 24 April 2005 13:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― poortheatre (poortheatre), Sunday, 24 April 2005 21:06 (eighteen years ago) link
Any list where Pink Moon beats out Mothership Connection by 37 places is better than nothing, except maybe prostate cancer.
― Stupornaut (natepatrin), Sunday, 24 April 2005 21:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ian John50n (orion), Monday, 25 April 2005 17:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― billstevejim, Monday, 25 April 2005 19:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dr. Gene Scott (shinybeast), Monday, 25 April 2005 20:37 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 5641st place votes: 0total votes: 20
THE RAMONES - THE RAMONES
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Monday, 25 April 2005 21:15 (eighteen years ago) link
Our Alice took this album (along with McFly and Busted ones) to her last day at nursery.
I don't know if they played it at her leaving party...
― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 25 April 2005 21:21 (eighteen years ago) link
-- jel -- (freeduni...), January 23rd, 2003.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Monday, 25 April 2005 21:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― poortheatre (poortheatre), Monday, 25 April 2005 21:25 (eighteen years ago) link
I could be projecting here, since the main reason I like the Ramones a lot has almost nothing to do with them being "punk legends" (yawn) and everything to do with their girlgroup style. The recent deaths do factor into this as well: once someone dies all sorts of not-entirely-thought-out feelings you had toward that person suddenly twist themselves inside out.
Also, I for one am very upset when I see the Slits maligned.
-- Justyn Dillingham (aubade8...), January 24th, 2003.
errr...let's have some posts about the band rather than about the album... well, they ARE interesting comments on the band, even if something more specific would be better. I'm sure there are lots of pertinent comments specific to this album out there, I'm just having trouble finding them. I think Justyn is RIGHT.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Monday, 25 April 2005 21:30 (eighteen years ago) link
-- Alex in NYC (vassife...), January 28th, 2003.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Monday, 25 April 2005 21:32 (eighteen years ago) link
-- mark grout (mark.grou...), April 25th, 2005.
I'm just trying to imagine "Blitzkreig Bop" back to back with "Five Colours In Her Hair". Actually, at the risk of being flayed alive, it doesn't seem so terrible.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Monday, 25 April 2005 21:35 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 5641st place votes: 1total votes: 16
AL GREEN - CALL ME
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Monday, 25 April 2005 21:40 (eighteen years ago) link
-- Pete Scholtes (pscholte...), April 6th, 2003.
I just got Call Me and I'm going bananas. For me the appeal of the 70s stuff I've heard is like 45% production, 35% Green's voice, 20% songs. The sound of those records, the drums, organ squelches, etc, fascinates me. I think of all the chillout/downtempo producers today & how in love they are with "atmosphere" & they never come close to that sound.
-- Mark (mar...), October 8th, 2003.ooo listen to those snares...
-- amateurist (amateuris...), October 8th, 2003.
Al Green. As a pure singer he's the best-- eddie hurt (eddshur...)
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Monday, 25 April 2005 21:52 (eighteen years ago) link
I dug out a copy of Maggot Brain as a result of this poll. Can't believe I'd overlooked it. Its an immense album - I should have voted for it.
Next poll, maybe..
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Monday, 25 April 2005 21:55 (eighteen years ago) link
Because with the possible exception of "The Battle of Evermore," IV is utterly perfect. III has moments of brilliance but a lot of weak spots as well, HOTH is fairly close but the overall quality level is prob. a bit lower.
― The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Monday, 25 April 2005 22:08 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 5691st place votes: 1total votes: 16
KRAFTWERK - THE MAN MACHINE
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This where Kraftwerk's style, image and theme find their ultimate expression, The Man Machine is where the group's ideas are most fully realised. Middle-European melancholy set in "Spacelab", futurism with an old world touch. All six songs are perfect and beautiful, none of them sound dated 27 years on. The robots that still define Kraftwerk's image were introduced here, yet the men's eye for the ladies in "The Model" shows the machines as human after all. This is the international edition, in Germany the band released a German language version. Oh my, the gentle kick drum that starts off "Neon Lights" has just started while I type this. Oh, and there's that synth line. I love this music so much.
JoB de wit
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 08:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 09:02 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 6011st place votes: 0total votes: 17
THE STOOGES - FUN HOUSE
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 09:06 (eighteen years ago) link
IT KNOCKS THE FUCKING WALLS DOWN? -- Tim Ellison (timejeanne...), January 13th, 2005.
'Funhouse' is the only 'real' record. Everything else by [or with or whatever] Iggy Pop is very strange. Like, sort of cabaret music. Why? That is very strange to me. I don't complain about it being cabaret music, I can still listen 'past' the cabaret-ness of it, but I wonder why he was never again able to make a record that was not cabaret? On the other hand, the reason seems obvious. -- antonius (r...), September 6th, 2004.
I'd been playing Black Grape and the Happy Mondays just now, and suddenly throwing on Fun House is just so much more FULFILLING than those records (not knocking them, mind you). But fuck...."TV Eye" is playing right now, and it's just fucking UNSTOPPABLE! -- Alex in NYC (vassife...), January 13th, 2005.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 09:21 (eighteen years ago) link
I love this album.
― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 09:29 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 6011st place votes: 0total votes: 18
MICHAEL JACKSON - OFF THE WALL
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Off the Wall
Michael Jackson
Somewhere in between Michael Jackson’s difficult childhood and his possibly psychotic reactions to his difficult childhood, he managed to come out with Off the Wall. At the time, we thought it would always be thus.
You can no longer listen to this record without thinking about what came after. Thriller may have made him the King of Pop rather than a good-looking guy with a few hits, but the seeds of MJ’s musical destruction are there. The paranoia, the megalomania, the self-reference (fictional and non-) made for great songs on Thriller, but he’s walking on a wire. He wobbled on “We Are the World,” teetered with stuff like “The Way You Make Me Feel” a great song rendered stiff by the production) and eventually fell off, handing in calcified junk like “Invincible.”
Off the Wall breathes; it’s engaging while it’s impressive. You can dance to it without worrying that you don’t look as cool as Michael Jackson dancing to it. “We’re the party people living night and day/ Living crazy that’s the only way/ So tonight/ Gotta put that 9 to 5 up on the shelf/ And just enjoy yourself.” Slight? Maybe, but fun too. And, as on “She’s Out of My Life,” as on everything here, he sings like he knows what he’s talking about (even though he probably already doesn’t).
Weird Al Yankovic never parodied anything from Off the Wall (on record anyway). That’s because he tweaks excess. And there isn’t any here.
Rick Massimo
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 10:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 10:17 (eighteen years ago) link
You mean: fahren!
― RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 10:29 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 6041st place votes: 1total votes: 15
VARIOUS ARTISTS - THE HARDER THEY COME
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The Harder they Come
John Peel had a rating system for songs: 1 star meant he might play it on the radio, 2 stars meant he should, and 3 stars meant he must. Every few years he would announce that an album had achieved the distinction of every track on it getting 3 stars (I remember Misty in Roots 'Live at the Counter-Eurovision' and the first Bhundu Boys album being examples)
Anyway, 'The Harder They Come' falls into this category. Every track on it is not just good, but great, good enough that if you bought an album and it had just one of these tracks, you'd be satisfied with your purchase even if the rest of the album was rubbish.
Joe Kay
Various - The Harder They Come (Soundtrack)
To this day, the artist on the spine of "The Harder they Come" reads"Jimmy Cliff," although the album is indeed a compilation. Maybe itwas a recognition that Cliff's contributions are more numerous andarguably better than anything else on the record, but it probably hadmore to do with marketing, as Cliff starred in the lead role of thefilm. The other selections, by reggae stalwarts such as Toots & theMaytals and Desmond Dekker, are some of the island's greatest tracks,and serve as a counterpoint to Cliff's four masterpieces. Even thoughyou'll often hear that this is a "great introduction to reggae," I'vealways thought this collection is all the more powerful because BobMarley is absent from it. Not because he is in any way a lesserartist, but the inclusion of such a major personality would havedistorted the balance of the album. Either way, it's indispensablefor both casual reggae fans and fanatics alike.
Keith C
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 10:30 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 6161st place votes: 0total votes: 22
THE SEX PISTOLS - NEVER MIND THE BOLLOCKS, HERE'S THE SEX PISTOLS
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 10:49 (eighteen years ago) link
-- Disco Nihilist (current31...), October 22nd, 2004.I mean trying to pick your least favorite NMTB song is like picking your least favorite orgasm."Submission" kinda sticks out as a place where maybe the LP drags a bit, to me. I guess that's why I thought of it first.I dunno, I never really got into "New York" either.The rest I can't think of a bad thing to say about.
-- AaronHz (aaronh...), August 5th, 2004.
I get the feeling that _Bollocks_ is the ultimate "you had to be there" album. -- Dan Perry (djperr...), January 17th, 2003.I can understand having mixed feelings upon hearing Suicide's debut album for the first time or even being underwhelmed by MARQUEE MOON (which, however, is truly a grower if you stick with it), but I can't imagine not being blown away by NEVER MIND THE BOLLOCKS. Obviously, this many years later it doesn't sound as shocking, but the songs and the character are still there in abundance. Or I think so, at least.
-- Alex in NYC (vassife...), January 18th, 2003.
Bollocks is a far deeper LP than *any* Clash LP in part because its failings — some of which are absolutely deliberate — are more powerful. -- mark s (mar...), June 4th, 2002.
and "never mind the bollocks" is at least 10000 x better than "the cl..." er, never mind. -- Pashmina (pashmin...), April 7th, 2003
The first times I heard "God Save the Queen" and "Anarchy In the UK" and enough of the rest for that matter were so momentous that I'll forgive the small repeat play value of Bollocks. -- sundar subramanian (sundar_subramanian200...), January 17th, 2003.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 11:15 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 6831st place votes: 3total votes: 18
THE MODERN LOVERS - THE MODERN LOVERS
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 12:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― Pradaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 12:30 (eighteen years ago) link
ist album is a classic. plus it's hilarious. "I'm Straight" is one of the funniest songs ever, whilst still being a good rock song. "Roadrunner," "Astral Plane," "Pablo Picasso," "She Cracked," "Old World," "Modern World" are all fine tracks as well. Someone thought this was awhiny album, maybe a little but not on the really good tracks. Whoever said it was proto-indie wank or something is just failing to appreciate a pretty unique album. Recorded in 71, the VU influence is obvious but other than that it pretty outside of what was going on in rock at the time. That said, I don't think any of Richman's later stuff has been nearly as good -- g (graysonlan...), December 11th, 2001.
an obvious classic and "she cracked" alone still means a lot for me. -- Marco Damiani (magog0...), November 16th, 2004.
[sputtering]...he INVENTED punk rock on The Modern Lovers!
-- M Matos (michaelangelomato...), April 12th, 2002.
i burned a copy of this for my girlfriend, and she told me they were a shitty Doors ripoff. She doesn't know it, but i still haven't forgiven her for that. -- Felcher (wangchungvsah...), September 17th, 2003
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 12:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 12:58 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 6921st place votes: 0total votes: 20
DAVID BOWIE - THE RISE AND FALL OF ZIGGY STARDUST
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 13:08 (eighteen years ago) link
The TV announcer begins, telling us all of our imminent demise and the rest is a "what the fuck, its all over, let's take what we can get" ride. The last ever rock n roll band appearing, entrancing the kids, and getting torn to shreds. The aliens whispering over the airwaves, and those willing to listen going out, staring at the sky and hoping for some sort of salvation.
It ends with a stagger home, a lit cigarette, screeching brakes as the singer assures you you aren't alone, he'll comfort you, he'll make it all okay. Perhaps you just need to go home, come down, it'll all be okay. The world will be allright, and you imagined everything.
Not completely consistent, but which of his albums is? It doesn't need to be. The result is a technicolour dystopian dream - frightening and utterly seductive.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 13:29 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 6981st places: 1total votes: 19
GANG OF FOUR - ENTERTAINMENT
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 13:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― Pradaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 13:53 (eighteen years ago) link
At least The Sex Pistols made top 20--glad the public turnaround on that isn't too intense. And also good to see Kraftwerk and Bowie's best albums both make the top 20.
― The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 13:54 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 13:59 (eighteen years ago) link
Blondie - Parallel LinesEno - Before and After ScienceDylan - Blood on the TracksBuzzcocks - Singles Going SteadyBruce - Born to Run (?) Clash - London CallingKraftwerk - Trans-EuropeMarv - What's Goin' OnPiL - Metal BoxStones - ExileSly - RiotT. Rex - Electric Warrior
Am I missing anything?
― The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 14:04 (eighteen years ago) link
I'd bet money against this.
― Dr. Gene Scott (shinybeast), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 14:09 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 14:10 (eighteen years ago) link
"Entertainment!" is a great album. And "Solid Gold" and "Songs of the Free" are real good ones. -- Not That Chuck (noemai...), December 16th, 2003.
Entertainment! sounds like the beginning of something, (1st alb) a kind of simple, brilliant template for a band: solid-state MGs revamped for maximum spike + Frankfurt school shouting, GO! (exercise: play "Damaged Goods" and "Green Onions" back to back)-- g.cannon (misterhungr...), September 26th, 2002.Entertainment! (Warner Bros., BSK 3446) LPSolid Gold (Warner Bros., BSK 3565) LP
After these, they fell off hard. But these are classics. Listen to the beginning of "Anthrax" if you wanna hear where just about every Albini-played guitar sound comes from (aside from the times when he rips off Metal Urbain, that is).
-- hstencil (hstenci...), December 9th, 2002.
I listened to Gang of Four's Entertainment! while watching a documentary about the a-bomb. There wasn't much synching going on, suprisingly enough. But then, I was also folding laundry. -- dave225 (adspac...), November 24th, 2003.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 14:12 (eighteen years ago) link
I'd be interested in seeing those predictions, though.
the 70s poll (albs and singles) predictions and things are posted here, i guess
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 14:15 (eighteen years ago) link
I'll start it up again.
― The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 14:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 14:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― Lee F# (fsharp), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 14:21 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 7321st place votes: 0total votes: 22
STEVIE WONDER - INNERVISIONS
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Innervisions
Stevie's third post-liberation album, and arguably the peak of his career.Dazzlingly diverse, from bubble-jazz to stately piano ballads to singalonggospel funk, but effortlessly commercial too (is that a Carpenters influenceI hear on "Golden Lady"?). Every track could be - and probably was - eitheran FM or AM radio staple. Lyrically, it's gently hippie and gently sociallyconscious, which only adds to its crossover appeal. Faultless, basically
Jeff Worrell
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 14:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 14:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 14:36 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 7321st place votes: 4total votes: 18
THE ROLLING STONES - EXILE ON MAIN STREET
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If the Rolling Stones had only released Exile on MainStreet, they'd still have a good claim for "World'sGreatest Rock and Roll Band." A double album thatdeserves all 4 sides. Xgau says "Weary andcomplicated, barely afloat in its own drudgery, itrocks with extra power and concentration as a result,"in a remarkably lucid and entirely accurate remark. An album that sounds good at first listen andexponentially better on the 10th or the 100th. Absolutely amazing and essential.
Matt Sab
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 14:38 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 7461st place votes: 0total votes: 19
MARVIN GAYE - WHAT'S GOING ON?
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 14:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 14:47 (eighteen years ago) link
However, it sounds downright futuristic compared to that half-awful Marvin Gaye album. Oh well.
― The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 14:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 14:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― Keith C (kcraw916), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 14:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 14:55 (eighteen years ago) link
I mean, yeah, I'd rather listen to retro synth-funk that than the snoozetastic "timeless" "What's Going On?"
well, yeah.
― The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 14:56 (eighteen years ago) link
Teenage Fanclub "Grand Prix"/"Songs from Northern Britain"Scritti Politti "Cupid & Psyche 85"Comet Gain "Realistes"Marvin Gaye "What's Going On"Paul Weller "Paul Weller" -- Michael White (michaelwhite3...), December 13th, 2002.
(from the "albums that make you indescribably happy" thread)
Marvin Gaye "What's Going On"I don't think I ever put it on without playing from start to finish
-- webcrack (signon2...), December 17th, 2003.
Marvin Gaye might be the godfather of soul. Extremely pure and spiritual. Almost like someone singing a prayer. A tad annoying. Curtis Mayfield on the other hand is more funky, more urban, more dirty. I prefer his version of soul. And you? -- alex in mainhattan (alex6...), June 24th, 2004.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 14:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 14:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 14:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 15:00 (eighteen years ago) link
Innervisions has some fantastic tracks on it - personally, "Don't You Worry 'Bout A Thing" is one of my favourite tracks ever. Another one I forgot to nominate for the poll.
There are quite a few I skip, though.
jaymc - my choices too, With living for the city chucked in.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 15:02 (eighteen years ago) link
bach obviously sounds like the third millenium! innervisions is just dull and annoys me. i don't remember any song on there. the production is totally not my cup of tea.
― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 15:02 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 7581st place votes: 0total votes: 24
BUZZCOCKS - SINGLES GOING STEADY
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 15:04 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 15:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 15:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 15:08 (eighteen years ago) link
I like 'em lots. They should do a cover of Haddaway's "What Is Love?"What is laaaahhff?!
-- Anthony Miccio (anthonymicci...), March 23rd, 2003.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 15:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 15:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 15:13 (eighteen years ago) link
I think that Innervisions sounds great - though it's not Wonder's best, or even in the top three. But it's far from dull. And it doesn't really sound dated - in fact I'd say it sounds a lot less dated than most of the albums on this list. You can turn on the radio and hear lots of contemporary songs (e.g., Alicia Keys) that aren't too far removed from what Wonder was doing on Innervisions, and they are no more nostalgia-driven than something like Franz Ferdinand which sounds like Gang of Four, which is at least as dated as Innervisions.
― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 15:15 (eighteen years ago) link
So classic it hurts. The Sex Pistols or the Saints may have been better bands (debatable), but within the realm of "punk" music there is no finer LP than Singles Going Steady. Who'd have thought that punk could be informed by pop/psychedelia/Krautrock and thrive? I love how "Orgasm Addict" and a few others throw in the occasional weird 7/8 time signature, just so they can hack through a tangled thicket of syllables and arrive at an unforgettable chorus just that much quicker. "Why Can't I Touch It?" could almost pass for a punk version of "Thank You For Talking To Me Africa". As for being a bad influence, maybe; but they were also a GOOD influence on Husker Du, which is alright by me. And Maher was indeed one hell of a drummer. I have a new favourite every time - last time it was "Boredom", next time "I Don't Mind." (Or make that "I Don't Mi-yi-yi-yi-yi-yi-yind"!) -- Myonga Von Bontee (scottyfield...), August 10th, 2004.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 15:16 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 7581st place votes: 1total votes: 22
PiL - METAL BOX
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 15:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 15:29 (eighteen years ago) link
I was out eating dinner once a few years back, in a posh new restaurant with a DJ (before the place caught on and became impossibly crowded all the time), and he snuck this song into his set making me hear it as I hadn't for a while. I bought Innversions on CD not long after (not that I didn't already have it on vinyl and cassette). Actually, I don't think it's perfect, but the good material is very very good.
― RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 15:29 (eighteen years ago) link
2nd edition is a prog album. poptones.
a best of the 70s list without yes, floyd, and zeppelin's just a bit autistic, don't you think?
― the ghost of 76, Wednesday, 27 April 2005 15:32 (eighteen years ago) link
No. metal box is by no means prog. it is post-prog, come on.
― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 15:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 15:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 15:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 15:40 (eighteen years ago) link
Not easy listening, though. But Levene is hardly wanking. He, even more so than Wobble, is the anchor of that band. Thus, the suckage following his departure...
-- Naive Teen Idol (matthewjweine...), January 8th, 2003.
It's proudly displayed (well, displayed) on my bookcase, but I swear it's been well over 10 years since I've played it. I do remember liking it, although isn't it meant to be boring and/or annoying in places? Also it plays at 45 rpm, doesn't it? I remember reading somewhere that it was funny/cool that it was designed so that you couldn't get the records out without scratching them, but of course you can just turn the package upside down and let them fall out (not at a great height, of course). -- Sean (saturns...), January 8th, 2003.
It's sort've become a post-punk Rosetta Stone of sorts (and I don't mean the lamentable goth band) that is required listening for anyone seeking information about the genre/era, but that doesn't mean it makes for the easiest nor most enjoyable listening experience. I'm glad I own it, I'm glad it exists, it's *INTERESTING* (in much the same way watching a disquieting snuff film or autopsy in interesting), but I'd be fibbing if I said I played it a lot or that it changed my life. I tend to prefer a bit more melodic cohesion in my post-punk, thank you very much, ala Gang of Four, early Killing Joke, Joy Division, et al.Still...."Poptones" and "Swanlake" are uproariously, gloriously ugly in the most intriguing way.
-- Alex in NYC (vassife...), January 8th, 2003.
Erm...I changed my mind!* Metal Box is actually quite brilliant. For some reason it clicked for me this time. Lydon sounds like Gollum. Levene sounds like he's scratching your eyes out. Wobble is implacable (I like that word today). The electronics are genuinely strange, alienating in that way that electronics were back then--you know, they sound like they're wheezing from some big gray mainframe that takes up half a room. The drums are just like, heavy, man. It's a big granite slab of sound rolling over you.
I think my problem was that I bought the album after reading the usual rhetoric about it, and then I didn't hear what I expected to hear based on that rhetoric. I still don't, really... but I like what I hear instead now.
* Well actually, I still think the suburbia-is-conformist stuff is cliched (suppose it wasn't at the time tho) and just wrong, Albatross is a dirge, and it really doesn't have much to do with dub. Even the bass isn't dubby--it's just fat and high in the mix. I only hear about one moment where he plays anything like a dub bassline (midway through Graveyard I think), most of the time it's more rock. And OK, they phase the drums every now and then. But dub is a process more than anything else, and they don't apply that process anywhere--there's no abrupt mixing in and out of instruments, no space in the music (the opposite--it's claustrophobic), no echoing....they're still playing songs, not deconstructing them. Not that it matters, but "avant-garde dub" is one of those phrases that gets thrown around a lot in relation to this album.
-- Ben Williams (benwilliam...), January 9th, 2003.
They should've replaced Lydon with Mrs. Miller: -- hstencil (hstenci...), January 9th, 2003.Great blog. As for me, what Matos said. Either you feel this music in your bones or you don't. Metal Box says everything is NOT going to be alright. It's mocking, too, as if depression or fear were below it, and it makes me feel detached, grooving, fuck everything. The complete antipathy is also highly moral, which sets it apart from the nihilist pigfuck/no wave/goth it inspired. Like Sandinista!, it's more punk than most punk. -- Pete Scholtes (pscholte...), January 11th, 2003.
no-one's topped Beefheart at his own game -- except maybe PiL, and then only once (metal box).-- Tad (llamasfu...), January 20th, 2003.
I heart John Lydon. -- Mary (maj23...), January 8th, 2003.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 15:45 (eighteen years ago) link
it's official!
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 15:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― egon krenz (slaytrack), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 15:50 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 7751st place votes: 1total votes: 25
BLONDIE - PARALLEL LINES
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 15:50 (eighteen years ago) link
autistic? what?
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 15:54 (eighteen years ago) link
KRAFTWERK - THE MAN MACHINE: Their perfect album. Seemless. Flawless. Not long enough.
THE STOOGES - FUN HOUSE: Amazingly precise in its onslaught.
THE SEX PISTOLS - NEVER MIND THE BOLLOCKS, HERE'S THE SEX PISTOLS: Dan stated above that he gets the feeling that its the ultimate "you had to be there" album. I agree. Its sounds dated to me today, but I doubt if I'd be "into" music like I am now without it.
GANG OF FOUR - ENTERTAINMENT: I never understood the "Punk-Funk" moniker, cuz I didn't hear the "funk". But it did make the dancers dance harder, and the non-dancers shake their legs with more abandon.
BUZZCOCKS - SINGLES GOING STEADY: Many of my ideas about pop music stems from this album. SONGS!
PiL - METAL BOX: Timeless. By that I mean that when I first heard it, it sounded from another time. It still does, but I'm not sure if its the future or the past, or something else.
― peepee (peepee), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 15:56 (eighteen years ago) link
― p.j. (Henry), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 16:23 (eighteen years ago) link
Classic with reservations - the last two tracks are weak (Gonna Love You Too + Just Go Away)and it lacks the absolute highs of the two previous albums and Eat to The Beat. My favorites are 11.59, Pretty Baby and Sunday Girl. There's nothing as good as X Offender, In The Flesh, Rip Her To Shreds, Out In The Streets, Fan Club, Scenery,I'm Always Touched By Your Presence, Dreaming, Union City Blue, or Atomic on there.
-- Dr. C (Daveatcrossdee...), December 2nd, 2002.
reading Please Kill Me, i found it so funny the way that blondie were viewed as the runt of the cbgb's litter, and television used to beat up on them and steal their bassists and stuff, but in the end, it was blondie that had the most long lasting success and widespread appeal. new yorkers are stupid. mwah hah hah. -- kate (masonicboo...), December 2nd, 2002.their best record by miles. still holds up pretty damn well to these ears. would be perfect but for the final track ('just go away') but 11 out of 12's a decent strike rate by any measure. -- angelo (discusdude7...), December 2nd, 2002.
"i know a girl from a lonely street/cool as ice cream and still as sweet" is the most perfect opening couplets to a pop song ever.the only thing that bugs me about parallel lines are those ugly green mesh and canvas boots that she's lacing up on the back cover.
debbie, debbie, debbie... it's so unlike you to pick unflattering footwear.
-- Fritz Wollner (fritzwollner5...), December 2nd, 2002.
I listened to this for the first time in, gosh, about 20 years when the remastered CD came out. It sounded way different than I remembered, because all the deadpan chick-fronted guitar-pop bands since Blondie - from the Primitives to Slumber Party - have really spun off from just one aspect of their sound. I was conditioned to hear Parallel Lines that way, but everything was more varied and modulated. Deborah Harry's singing was so demonstrative, it's like she's in a Broadway revue. Each song is a different little character portrait. The drumming was a lot less metronomic than my ears have become accustomed to. -- Curt (curtisgoul...), December 2nd, 2002.
slumber party are HARDLY a "chick fronted guitar-pop band" thank you very kindly. grrrrrrr.one of the things that i always loved most about blondie was their genre-slut style-hopping. blondie albums were like mini-musicals, really. i believe that was quite deliberate.
-- kate (masonicboo...), December 2nd, 2002.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 16:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 16:31 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 8101st place votes: 2total votes: 25
JOY DIVISION - UNKNOWN PLEASURES
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Joy Division -- Unknown Pleasures.
I first heard "Unknown Pleasures" in 1992. It's stillthe darkest record I own. The one that demands beinglistened to with all the lights off. Even better, ina cold basement. Curled up in a ball. Listening tothe soothing crackle of the needle on vinyl. Goodtimes. Lonely, troubling, but good nontheless. Onthis album, "Interzone" is what passes for euphoria. "She's Lost Control" is what passes fordancefloor-filling mania. "New Dawn Fades" is pain.
"Unknown Pleasures" is therapy.
Barry Bruner
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 16:34 (eighteen years ago) link
C/D: Eight-track alternate sequencing?
(as you'd expect, a few other albums on this list are discussed there too)
BLONDIE -- PARALLEL LINES
1 Hanging On The TelephoneHeart Of GlassI'm Gonna Love You Too
2 Picture ThisFade Away And RadiatePretty Baby
3 I Know But I Don't Know11:59Will Anything Happen?
4 One Way Or AnotherSunday GirlJust Go Away
This is also great! The proper track listing drags a bit in the middle during the "Fade Away and Radiate" ... "Will Anything Happen" section. But the eight-track version puts the Big Hits at the beginning and the end ("Heart Of Glass" works MUCH better at the start than tossed randomly into the middle of side two) and mixes things up a little better in the middle.
-- MindInRewind, October 7th, 2004 5:38 PM.
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― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 16:46 (eighteen years ago) link
-- dave q (scrape10...), December 9th, 2001.
I was pretty histrionic back in the day:
i'll just say that maybe _unknown pleasures_ is a classic because it's a masterpiece, just maybe? maybe because stephen morris and peter hook formed rock's greatest rhythm section ever, able to define a song with startlingly fresh repeated lines that bled out of the most basic elements breathtaking possibilities? because crushing parallel-universe-metal riffs could be stripped, crystallized, and frozen to drip like icicles above? maybe because riffs could become drones and vice versa? maybe because of the sparsest, least pop tracks ("candidate," "i remember nothing") where a bare beat and atmospheric samples could house ian curtis's sighs and cries? because that band could bludgeon ("day of the lords"), rage ("shadowplay"), and caress ("insight")? just maybe ian curtis sang like no one else could, using a uniquely non-singerly voice to move from a purr to a sneer to a bellow?
-- sundar subramanian (ssubram...), May 17th, 2001.
In this month's Spin, Andrew Beaujon says of Unknown Pleasures: "If you've only heard 'Love Will Tear Us Apart', peep these Mancs on their sole proper album (?) for what they really were: an incompetent metal band that somehow touched the stars."
― Sundar (sundar), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 17:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 17:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― Mike O. (Mike Ouderkirk), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 18:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― poortheatre (poortheatre), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 19:16 (eighteen years ago) link
So what happened? Did a lot of people rate Parallel Lines moderately high or did a few people put it as their #1?
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 20:09 (eighteen years ago) link
― Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 20:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 20:14 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sundar (sundar), Thursday, 28 April 2005 03:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― Atnevon (Atnevon), Thursday, 28 April 2005 04:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 28 April 2005 07:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 28 April 2005 07:53 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 8381st place votes: 2total votes: 23
KRAFTWERK - TRANS-EUROPE EXPRESS
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 28 April 2005 08:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 28 April 2005 08:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 28 April 2005 08:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 28 April 2005 08:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 28 April 2005 08:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 28 April 2005 08:42 (eighteen years ago) link
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 28 April 2005 08:43 (eighteen years ago) link
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 28 April 2005 08:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 28 April 2005 08:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― Lee F# (fsharp), Thursday, 28 April 2005 09:02 (eighteen years ago) link
"Trans-Europe Express", "Man Machine" and "Computer World" are all 5 star and the rest ain't too shabby either.
-- Dadaismus (kcoyne3...), November 2nd, 2004.
Hmm... I'm struggling a bit to find blurbs. Perhaps its a mistake to attempt this before coffee.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 28 April 2005 09:07 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 8731st place votes: 0total votes: 25
TELEVISON - MARQUEE MOON
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 28 April 2005 09:14 (eighteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 28 April 2005 09:19 (eighteen years ago) link
-- mark grout (mark.grou...), May 9th, 2004.
The original LP faded the track. The CD and the remaster let the track conclude to a brilliant ending, adding 2 mins onto the track.
Regards
Television's Marquee Moon influenced a lot of bangladeshis to move to Britain and thus changed English cuisine forever. In the same year, Verlaine also invented the sewing machine. -- Pulpo (pulpopulpissim...), July 10th, 2002.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 28 April 2005 09:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 28 April 2005 09:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 28 April 2005 09:40 (eighteen years ago) link
They were both (singles/albums) mailed on March 3rd.
Can my singles be included/checked though? I can resend...
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 28 April 2005 09:51 (eighteen years ago) link
That might be the problem.. I set up ilx70s for the poll because I'm on the Avenue list at elvistears, and I never remember to read it and anything sent there disappears under a tonne of St Etienne rantings.
But I'll put the singles in, yes... its ilx70s@yahoo.co.uk
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 28 April 2005 09:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 28 April 2005 09:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 28 April 2005 10:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Thursday, 28 April 2005 10:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 28 April 2005 10:34 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 8841st place votes: 3total votes: 21
BOB DYLAN - BLOOD ON THE TRACKS
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 28 April 2005 10:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 28 April 2005 10:42 (eighteen years ago) link
(We've been here before with the 1000 UK Number Ones poll, when hobart's votes went missing...)
― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Thursday, 28 April 2005 10:53 (eighteen years ago) link
-- mike t-diva (mikejl...), April 28th, 2005.
Nooooooo!!!! I'm off the hook, as Mark DID NOT FOLLOW INSTRUCTIONS!!(phew....I did think I'd just missed your vote..)
But yes, I'll do the Grout 100 after this one. And the 101-200 of both.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 28 April 2005 11:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 28 April 2005 11:04 (eighteen years ago) link
I always assumed it was a fictional narrative, which what I always thought all the songs on Blood on the Tracks bar 'Lily, Rosemary, and the Jack of Hearts' were, not knowing anything much biographical about Dylan. But basically: boy gets girl, boy and girl split up, they meet again, he decides he can't stay, and then remembering some time later boy decides to go look for girl again. (all of Dylan's lyrics, by the way, are online at bobdylan.com, although I don't recommend looking at them without listening to the songs first, obviously. and: tangled up in blue.)
-- thom w. (thom...), March 30th, 2002.
Dylan said somewhere that TUIB was his attempt to write a song that was like a painting - that wasn't tied to the flow of time..so the emotions and scenes in the song are all fractured and non-consecutive. Its one of the things I love about that song, and most of Blood on the Tracks. Idiot Wind is the same, you're never sure whether it's a historical or present-day song. -- Mat O (winterland7...), March 31st, 2002.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 28 April 2005 11:10 (eighteen years ago) link
I just said that the album doesn't flow. Looking at it again, that's almost certainly deliberate. The quiet moments follow the shouting, as the times spent sitting alone, regretting what you said, regretting what you didn't say and thinking "what the fuck do I do now?" follow the arguments in life. Maybe the difficulty in defining this album comes from the fact that there's no over-arching emotion to it, and the bitterness is tempered with never-give-up. I certainly need to listen again to be sure that I'm not talking crap.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 28 April 2005 11:16 (eighteen years ago) link
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points: 9361st place votes: 1total votes: 23
THE CLASH - LONDON CALLING
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Clash - London Calling
Nothing in the first two Clash albums could have prepared listenersfor the sprawling, omnivorous sound that makes up "London Calling." Although there had been flirtations with reggae and R&B mannerisms inthe previous two records, the Clash go "all in" on this one and revealtheir entire record collections to everyone. You want rockabilly, NewOrleans funk, disco? It's all in here. But what is important topoint out is that the genre-hopping on "London Calling" never soundsforced or self-indulgent, like it would on "Sandinista." Rather, theClash's way of paying tribute to their influences was the mosttime-honored way—that is, drinking deeply from the variegated cup ofpopular music and coming up with something uniquely their own.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 28 April 2005 11:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Thursday, 28 April 2005 11:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― Lee F# (fsharp), Thursday, 28 April 2005 11:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Thursday, 28 April 2005 11:22 (eighteen years ago) link
points: 9701st place votes: 1total votes: 27
SLY AND THE FAMILY STONE - THERE'S A RIOT GOIN ON
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 28 April 2005 11:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 28 April 2005 11:31 (eighteen years ago) link
I mean, take away the circumstances and context, and there are only what, four great songs? Three?
― The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Thursday, 28 April 2005 11:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Thursday, 28 April 2005 11:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 28 April 2005 11:39 (eighteen years ago) link
What was #101?
― The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Thursday, 28 April 2005 11:42 (eighteen years ago) link
Where was Station to Station, hobart?
Congrats on conduting a very entertaining poll
― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 28 April 2005 11:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 28 April 2005 11:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― John Cole, Thursday, 28 April 2005 11:47 (eighteen years ago) link
x-post Alba Station to Station was number 62.Mark, I think Marquee Moon would have made number 2 with your votes included - but I'll go away and add them up properly.
101-200 coming up..
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 28 April 2005 11:55 (eighteen years ago) link
Oops! Totally missed that.
― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 28 April 2005 11:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Thursday, 28 April 2005 12:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Thursday, 28 April 2005 12:06 (eighteen years ago) link
YEAR BY YEAR(Overall rank in parentheses)
1970 - The Stooges, Fun House (19)1971 - Sly & The Family Stone, There's a Riot Goin' On (1)1972 - Rolling Stones, Exile on Main St. (11)1973 - Stevie Wonder, Innervisions (12)1974 - Brian Eno, Here Come The Warm Jets (23)1975 - Bob Dylan, Blood on the Tracks (3)*1976 - Modern Lovers, The Modern Lovers (15)**1977 - Television, Marquee Moon (4)1978 - Blondie, Parallel Lines (7)1979 - The Clash, London Calling (2)***
*Had Columbia rushed the release of Blood on the Tracks a couple weeks (it is sometimes dated 1974), the best record of '75 would have been Eno's Another Green World, which ranked #36 overall, cementing the notion that for whatever reason — post-Watergate exhaustion? Quaaludes? — 1975 was kind of a drag. (BTW where the hell is Physical Graffiti?!)
** If you believe that Modern Lovers is really a 1973 record, then the best album of '76 was The Ramones' debut (#22).
***The bumper crop. 1979 had 6 among the top 18. (Are you listening, I.M.?) In addition to the overrated London Calling: UNKNOWN PLEASURES, Singles Going Steady, Metal Box, Entertainment! and Off The Wall.... (+ Dragnet, among many others, insulted at #52...)
― Dr. Gene Scott (shinybeast), Thursday, 28 April 2005 12:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sundar (sundar), Thursday, 28 April 2005 12:32 (eighteen years ago) link
-- hobart paving (elvistear...), April 28th, 2005.
I'm not sure this could be topped as a blurb.
― Rick Massimo (Rick Massimo), Thursday, 28 April 2005 12:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 28 April 2005 12:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― Roadkill Bingo (Roadkill Bingo), Thursday, 28 April 2005 12:37 (eighteen years ago) link
(and why does that make the poll sound like cat food?)
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 28 April 2005 12:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 28 April 2005 12:40 (eighteen years ago) link
This might have been my #1. I don't remember. I guess #110 isn't that bad..
― billstevejim, Thursday, 28 April 2005 12:59 (eighteen years ago) link
So, what I would really say here is how striking it is that even though there's been nearly seventy sets of votes, one vote can make all the difference.
You know what to do come election day, right?
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 28 April 2005 13:02 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 28 April 2005 13:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 28 April 2005 13:08 (eighteen years ago) link
Too bad about John McLaughlin's Devotion. I really think a lot of you could love it if you haven't heard it. It seriously has more of a stoner Zep/Sab feel than his other stuff.
― Sundar (sundar), Thursday, 28 April 2005 13:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― sleep (sleep), Thursday, 28 April 2005 13:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― David Gunnip (David Gunnip), Thursday, 28 April 2005 13:43 (eighteen years ago) link
I know there aren't any real absolute truths in music fandom, but can I at least submit the possibility that any of these albums should be in the top ten instead of Metal fucking boring dirge-ass go-nowhere joyless piece of shit Box?
(But why am I bitching when my two favorite albums of the decade finished 1-2? Because I gotta be me, I guess.)
xp: Where is Radio goddamned Birdman?
― Stupornaut (natepatrin), Thursday, 28 April 2005 13:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― Stupornaut (natepatrin), Thursday, 28 April 2005 13:56 (eighteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 28 April 2005 14:00 (eighteen years ago) link
I voted it #1. My conscience is clear...
― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Thursday, 28 April 2005 14:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― o. nate (onate), Thursday, 28 April 2005 14:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― RS, Thursday, 28 April 2005 14:07 (eighteen years ago) link
But, take your point about X ray Spex.
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 28 April 2005 14:11 (eighteen years ago) link
Come on, Metal Box is great!
― sleep (sleep), Thursday, 28 April 2005 14:11 (eighteen years ago) link
not meant to be taken totally seriously (though Metal Box is great).
― sleep (sleep), Thursday, 28 April 2005 14:14 (eighteen years ago) link
Hmm, that's funny, because I thought it had dated excellently.
― o. nate (onate), Thursday, 28 April 2005 14:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 28 April 2005 14:17 (eighteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 28 April 2005 14:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― o. nate (onate), Thursday, 28 April 2005 14:23 (eighteen years ago) link
100. VA - Nuggets99. New York Dolls - s/t98. David Bowie - Heroes97. Kate Bush - The Kick Inside96. Bruce Springsteen - Darkness On the Edge of Town95. The Cure - Three Imaginary Boys94. Augustus Pablo - King Tubby Meets Rockers Uptown93. Philip Glass - Einstein on the Beach92. Sparks - Kimono My House91. Cheap Trick - Live at Budokan90. Steely Dan - Countdown to Ecstacy89. Sparks - No. 1 in Heaven88. Can - Future Days87. The B52s - The B52s86. Parliament - Funkentelechy Vs. the Placebo Syndrome85. Leonard Cohen - Songs of Love and Hate84. Iggy and the Stooges - Raw Power83. The Slits - Cut82. Nick Drake - Bryter Layter81. The Beach Boys - Surf's Up80. Neu! - Neu!79. The Beatles - Let It Be78. John Lennon - Plastic Ono Band77. Funkadelic - Maggot Brain76. Big Star - Third75. John Cale - Paris 191974. Donna Summer - On the Radio73. Miles Davis - A Tribute to Jack Johnson72. Marvin Gaye - Let's Get It On71. Parliament - The Mothership Connection70. Brian Eno - Taking Tiger Mountain (By Strategy)69. VA - Saturday Night Fever68. Wire - 15467. Led Zeppelin - Houses of the Holy66. Led Zeppelin - IV65. Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here64. Big Star - #1 Record63. Black Sabbath - Paranoid62. David Bowie - Station to Station61. Neil Young - Rust Never Sleeps60. Elvis Costello - My Aim Is True59. Miles Davis - Bitches Brew58. Bob Dylan - The Basement Tapes57. The Congos - Heart of the Congos56. Fleetwood Mac - Rumors55. Ornette Coleman - Dancing in Your Head54. Richard and Linda Thompson - I Want To See the Bright Lights Tonight53. David Bowie - Hunky Dory52. The Fall - Dragnet51. Neil Young - Tonight's the Night50. Steely Dan - Pretzel Logic49. Roxy Music - Roxy Music48. Roxy Music - For Your Pleasure47. Stevie Wonder - Talking Book46. Suicide - First Album45. Miles Davis - On the Corner44. Curtis Mayfield - Superfly43. Steve Reich - Music For 18 Musicians42. Talking Heads - More Songs About Buildings and Food41. Neil Young - On the Beach40. Gram Parsons - Grievous Angel39. Wire - Chairs Missing38. Stevie Wonder - Songs in the Key of Life37. Can - Ege Bamyesi36. Brian Eno - Another Green World35. Serge Gainbourg - Histoire De Melody Nelson34. Nick Drake - Pink Moon33. Elvis Costello - This Year's Model32. Neil Young - After the Goldrush31. Big Star - Radio City30. The Clash - The Clash29. The Velvet Underground - Loaded28. The Rolling Stones - Sticky Fingers27. Wire - Pink Flag26. Can - Tago Mago25. David Bowie - Low24. Joni Mitchell - Blue23. Brian Eno - Here Come the Warm Jets22. Ramones - Ramones21. Al Green - Call Me20. Kraftwerk - The Man Machine19. The Stooges - Fun House18. Michael Jackson - Off the Wall17. VA - The Harder They Come16. The Sex Pistols - Nevermind the Bollocks15. The Modern Lovers - The Modern Lovers14. David Bowie - Ziggy Stardust13. Gang of Four - Entertainment12. Stevie Wonder - Innervisions11. The Rolling Stones - Exile on Main Street10. Marvin Gaye - What's Goin' On9. Buzzcocks - Singles Going Steady8. PiL - Metal Box7. Blondie - Parallel Lines6. Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures5. Kraftwerk - Trans-Europe Express4. Television - Marquee Moon3. Bob Dylan - Blood On the Tracks2. The Clash - London Calling1. Sly & the Family Stone - There's a Riot Goin' On
― whenuweremine (whenuweremine), Thursday, 28 April 2005 14:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― Keith C (kcraw916), Thursday, 28 April 2005 14:40 (eighteen years ago) link
Pay close attention, as you will never see this result in a '70s poll ever again.
― Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Thursday, 28 April 2005 14:47 (eighteen years ago) link
Did anyone else vote for Caress of Steel? (Pashmina?) Side 2 is one of the most unique things I've ever heard anyone do with rock. It has a very distinctive and special feel for me, warm and open or something. Seeing it on the nominations list got me to play it again and realize this. Much better than 2112.
xpost haha
But, yeah, what the fucking fuck happened to Who's Next
― Sundar (sundar), Thursday, 28 April 2005 14:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 28 April 2005 14:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 28 April 2005 14:53 (eighteen years ago) link
And have you seen the triple LP version?
That said, I didn't vote for it because I didn't.
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 28 April 2005 14:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― billstevejim, Thursday, 28 April 2005 15:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― Al (sitcom), Thursday, 28 April 2005 15:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Thursday, 28 April 2005 15:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Thursday, 28 April 2005 15:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― RS, Thursday, 28 April 2005 15:56 (eighteen years ago) link
I'm really surprised to see London Calling so high as there seems to be nothing but anti-Clash sentiment around here. I was sure that would be the one canonic album to be toppled. I thought Metal Box would have been a bit higher.
The #1 matches my #1 though so I was quite happy with the way it all ended.
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Thursday, 28 April 2005 15:56 (eighteen years ago) link
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Thursday, 28 April 2005 16:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― steve hise, Thursday, 28 April 2005 16:11 (eighteen years ago) link
156 Milton Nascimento & Lo Borges - Clube Da Esquina 121
Hey wow, I wasn't the only one who voted for these! I guess I'm not surprised by their placing (actually, #115 is higher than I expected for Sextant), but I find it weird Fela Kuti didn't even make the top 100.
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 28 April 2005 16:15 (eighteen years ago) link
Damn fucking str8.
"Space Ritual is better than xxxxxxxxxxxxx."
you fill in the exes, and it'll probably still be right.
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 28 April 2005 16:18 (eighteen years ago) link
But, come on, fucking Who's Next! John Entwistle!
xposts Sextant was my #13, Tuomas. I want to thank you for having turned me on to it a year or two ago.
haha the inverse might work for me: "xxxxxxx is better than Metal Box". OK, truthfully, I did buy it, there are a couple really good songs, and a lot of cool ideas. But I still find it hard to relate to how anyone could really love it. (I like the Pistols FWIW.) It might be the sort of thing that has to grow on me, like lots of other records have. I do like the guitar sound. I wonder if it might be a British thing, somehow.
― Sundar (sundar), Thursday, 28 April 2005 16:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sundar (sundar), Thursday, 28 April 2005 16:26 (eighteen years ago) link
And re: "bumper crop" in '79---yep, I'm listening : )
― I.M. (I.M.), Thursday, 28 April 2005 16:30 (eighteen years ago) link
You're welcome, I think this is the first time I've heard someone on ILM say I've influenced their listening tastes. Sextant was my number 1, it is indeed a brilliant record, and cannot be praised enough (Lord knows I've tried, though).
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 28 April 2005 16:31 (eighteen years ago) link
much, much, much better.
― The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Thursday, 28 April 2005 16:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― These Robust Cookies (Robust Cookies), Thursday, 28 April 2005 16:32 (eighteen years ago) link
this has got to be the real SHOCKA... how could this have happened??
And I'm glad The Who got clowned haha
― poortheatre (poortheatre), Thursday, 28 April 2005 16:33 (eighteen years ago) link
much, much, much longer
― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 28 April 2005 16:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― Michael Copeland, Thursday, 28 April 2005 16:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 28 April 2005 16:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Thursday, 28 April 2005 16:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― Michael Copeland, Thursday, 28 April 2005 16:52 (eighteen years ago) link
If you don't think DSOTM isn't top fucking ONE HUNDRED you're a dickpipe.
― PB, Thursday, 28 April 2005 16:56 (eighteen years ago) link
Who's NextEvery Picture Tells A StoryBorn To RunZuma
Classic rock was woefully under-represented and post-punk was over-represented. Can't wait to see the singles poll.
What's next, Hobart? 80s? 90s? 60s? This is the most fun ever.
― kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Thursday, 28 April 2005 17:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― whenuweremine (whenuweremine), Thursday, 28 April 2005 17:06 (eighteen years ago) link
-- Matt Sab, April 28th, 2005.
I thought we agreed on the 50s. -- Alba, April 28th, 2005.
80's next, definitely. -- Keith C, April 28th, 2005.
Hold your horses, people - we still haven't done the tracks poll. -- o. nate, April 28th, 2005.
I'd like to see the 50s next (and do vaguely remember that that we'd agreed on that, whatever "we" "agreed on" might mean). -- RS, April 28th, 2005.
I guess I missed that debate. 50's-60's would be perfectly fine for songs, but I don't think it's as interesting to do albums for those decades since the LP format wasn't dominant in rock or r&b until the mid 60's. -- Keith C, April 28th, 2005.
What about other genres though? -- RS, April 28th, 2005.
This doesn't have to be limited to rock and R&B. -- RS, April 28th, 2005.
Doing the 50s will level the playing field in a way, since hardly any of us were alive then (even some older posters like me). -- RS, April 28th, 2005.
Keith - JAZZ! -- Alba, April 28th, 2005.
This doesn't have to be limited to rock and R&B. Oh, of course not. In fact, if I voted for 50's albums it'd be mostly jazz and vocal stuff anyway. But rock and r&b would get the shaft, though.
Don't get me wrong, I never met a poll I didn't like.
-- Keith C, April 28th, 2005.
please no 50s or Jazz polls -- The Good Dr. Bill, April 28th, 2005.
― RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Thursday, 28 April 2005 17:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 28 April 2005 17:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― Al (sitcom), Thursday, 28 April 2005 17:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― These Robust Cookies (Robust Cookies), Thursday, 28 April 2005 17:30 (eighteen years ago) link
What is the logic for only voting on nominated albums, anyway? Why be so exclusive?
― Keith C (kcraw916), Thursday, 28 April 2005 17:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 28 April 2005 17:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sundar (sundar), Thursday, 28 April 2005 17:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sundar (sundar), Thursday, 28 April 2005 17:37 (eighteen years ago) link
I think the idea is to prevent having lots of albums that only one or two people have voted for, to make insure that the winners have won by some sort of substantial margin.
― RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Thursday, 28 April 2005 17:38 (eighteen years ago) link
xpost Especially considering how flexible the nomination process was for this poll.
― Sundar (sundar), Thursday, 28 April 2005 17:40 (eighteen years ago) link
A joke taken too far?
― Cunga (Cunga), Thursday, 28 April 2005 17:40 (eighteen years ago) link
-- RS_LaRue (Al__suca...), April 28th, 2005.
oh, i take back the "I really wish I'd voted", I forgot that the reason I abstain from all these polls is that I think this 'nominations' process is the stupidest bullshit ever.
― Al (sitcom), Thursday, 28 April 2005 17:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 28 April 2005 17:44 (eighteen years ago) link
xposts Fair enough. I think minimalism and free funk and motherfucking FUSION were robbed worst. Those and fucking Who's Next.
― Sundar (sundar), Thursday, 28 April 2005 17:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sundar (sundar), Thursday, 28 April 2005 17:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Thursday, 28 April 2005 17:49 (eighteen years ago) link
No, that would be:
15 THE MODERN LOVERS - THE MODERN LOVERS
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Thursday, 28 April 2005 17:49 (eighteen years ago) link
I agree, I'd prefer if there were no nominations and we could vote for whatever we like. In that case, we'd need about 400 more people to vote in order get any sort of consensus so that the list would mean something.
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 28 April 2005 17:54 (eighteen years ago) link
I think it'd be better to eliminate the one-offs from the tally at the end instead of excluding them outright from the voting. For instance, you just say up front that "albums with only one vote don't get counted." So if you want to take that risk, that's your choice.
xpost
The poll results wouldn't look that different with open nominations. Look at pitchfork's.
― Keith C (kcraw916), Thursday, 28 April 2005 17:56 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 28 April 2005 17:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 28 April 2005 18:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― billstevejim, Thursday, 28 April 2005 21:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― Nick H (Nick H), Thursday, 28 April 2005 21:26 (eighteen years ago) link
Exactly -- you can't get much consensus by polling only 20 people, which is why you need to take some of those lists with a grain of salt (they do make up for it somewhat by voting for 100 albums each, rather than the 35 (on average) that we did).
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 28 April 2005 21:30 (eighteen years ago) link
I was thinking of volunteering my servics to do an 80's poll, but I was going to leave it a few weeks. Well, at least until the tracks are out of the way.
― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Thursday, 28 April 2005 21:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 28 April 2005 22:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 28 April 2005 22:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 28 April 2005 22:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Thursday, 28 April 2005 22:09 (eighteen years ago) link
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 28 April 2005 22:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Thursday, 28 April 2005 22:13 (eighteen years ago) link
If we do another poll, I think it should be saved for the fall. Give ILM a few poll-free months so that we come back in October ALL HUNGRY FOR SOME POLLING ACTION.
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 28 April 2005 22:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 28 April 2005 22:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― Keith C (kcraw916), Thursday, 28 April 2005 22:21 (eighteen years ago) link
And three cheers for HP.
― Nag! Nag! Nag! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Thursday, 28 April 2005 23:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Thursday, 28 April 2005 23:16 (eighteen years ago) link
Abso-fucking-lutely!!!!!!!
― Pradaismus (Dada), Friday, 29 April 2005 08:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― gspm (gspm), Friday, 29 April 2005 11:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Friday, 29 April 2005 18:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Friday, 29 April 2005 18:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Friday, 29 April 2005 18:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Friday, 29 April 2005 18:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Friday, 29 April 2005 18:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― jmeister (jmeister), Saturday, 30 April 2005 04:41 (eighteen years ago) link
But it didn't happen like that.. Giving a month to finish nominations, and another month to vote put things back longer, and then it did take me a while to count votes. There are good reasons for that, that I'm not going to go into here. Some things happened earlier this year that caused me a few problems, and made me want to hide away from the world for a bit. Including the internet.
Anyway, that, together with coursework, exams, you name it...meant it all got put off until last week. May not being a particularly quiet time at University, they took longer to post because they had to be slotted in between staying up all night writing bollocks that is of no interest to anyone essays. Which is the reason for the delay in the singles poll too...
Anyway, I didn't post this as a whinge, but as an explanation. I can start putting the singles poll up on friday, but there will be a big gap in the middle, as next week is going to be one of those drinking far too much caffeine, avoiding sleep if possible and trying to cram work that would normally take about a month into one week type of weeks.
Or it can go up the weekend after next when it all ENDS! Temporarily.
It ended up as a whinge, anyway, didn't it?
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 14:22 (eighteen years ago) link
Well, I tried to make them a bit more open for this poll - and there was some criticism of that in the initial thread - some people thought there should only be two nominations for each category as in previous polls.
Its a lovely idea not to have to nominate at all, there were so many things I discovered I'd missed out. Or perhaps to have an unlimited number of nominations - to give people a list to think about, even if hey don't have to stick to it (I know there are things I'd miss if they weren't on that list). Just one problem - it would be a huge list and complete fucking nightmare to add up. I wonder if Steve (I think it was Steve who started the whole thing) wisely chose two nomiations for each so he could attempt to keep track of the poll.
If anyone was brave enough to try it with no nomiations, that would certainly make it interesting. You might wish you hadn't, though.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 14:36 (eighteen years ago) link
Oh, any news on the album poll with my vote included? If too busy, that's cool no worries.
― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 14:41 (eighteen years ago) link
The whole thing being the 00s poll or the 90s poll or whichever one prompted the current round of polls.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 14:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 14:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― peepee (peepee), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 15:26 (eighteen years ago) link
1 (2) Clash - London Calling 9982 (1) Sly And The Family Stone - There's A Riot Goin On 9703 (4) Television - Marquee Moon 943 4 (3) Bob Dylan - Blood On The Tracks 8845 (5) Kraftwerk - Trans Europe Express 8386 (8) PiL - Metal Box 8247 (6) Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures 8108 (7) Blondie - Parallel Lines 7819 (9)Buzzcocks - Singles Going Steady 75810 (10) Marvin Gaye - What's Going On 74611 (11) Rolling Stones - Exile On Main Street 73212 (12) Stevie Wonder - Innervisions 73213 (13) Gang Of Four - Entertainment! 70614 (15) Modern Lovers - Modern Lovers 69315 (14) David Bowie - The Rise And Fall Of Ziggy Stardust 69216 (19) Stooges - Funhouse 62517 (16) Sex Pistols - Nevermind The Bollocks, Here's the Sex Pistols 61618 (17) Various - The Harder They Come (Soundtrack) 60419 (18) Michael Jackson - Off The Wall 60120 (22) Ramones - The Ramones 60021 (20) Kraftwerk - The Man Machine 56922 (21) Al Green - Call Me 56423 (27) Wire - Pink Flag 54924 (23) Brian Eno - Here Come The Warm Jets 54625 (26) Can - Tago Mago 54426 (24) Joni Mitchell - Blue 52127 (25) David Bowie - Low 51328 (28) Rolling Stones - Sticky Fingers 49729 (29) Velvet Underground - Loaded 49630 (30) Clash - The Clash (Uk Version) 45631 (31) Big Star - Radio City 45432 (39) Wire - Chairs Missing 44733 (32) Neil Young - After The Goldrush 44634 (33) Elvis Costello - This Year's Model 43735 (34) Nick Drake - Pink Moon 42436 (35) Serge Gainsbourg - Histoire Du Melody Nelson 42337 (36) Brian Eno - Another Green World 41738 (37) Can - Ege Bamyasi 41139 (38) Stevie Wonder - Songs In The Key Of Life Wire - Chairs Missing 40040 (40) Gram Parsons - Grievous Angel 39141 (41) Neil Young - On The Beach 38442 (42) Talking Heads - More Songs About Buildings And Food 38143 (43) Steve Reich - Music For 18 Musicians 36344 (46) Suicide - First Album 35945 (44) Curtis Mayfield - Superfly 35846 (45) Miles Davis - On The Corner 35247 (46) Stevie Wonder - Talking Book 34848 (48) RRoxy Music - For Your Pleasure 34549 (49) Roxy Music - s/t 33950 (50) Steely Dan - Pretzel Logic 33851 (51) Neil Young - Tonight's The Night 33752 (52) Fall - Dragnet Fall - Dragnet 33753 (53) David Bowie - Hunky Dory 33054 (54) Richard And Linda Thompson - I Want To See The Bright Lights Tonight 32155 (55) Ornette Coleman - Dancing In Your Head 32056 (56) Fleetwood Mac - Rumours 31057 (57) Congos - Heart Of The Congos 31058 (58) Bob Dylan and the Band - The Basement Tapes 30059 (59) Miles Davis - Bitches Brew 29960 (60) Elvis Costello - My Aim Is True 29761 (61) Neil Young - Rust Never Sleeps 29662 (80) Neu! - Neu! 29163 (62) David Bowie - Station To Station 28964 (63) Black Sabbath - Paranoid 28965 (68) Wire - 154 28966 (64) Big Star - #1 Record 28167 (65) Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here 27168 (66) Led Zeppelin - IV 27069 (67) Led Zeppelin - Houses Of The Holy 26970 (69) Various - Saturday Night Fever OST 26671 (84) Iggy & The Stooges - Raw Power 26572 (70) Brian Eno - Taking Tiger Mountain (By Strategy) 26373 (71) Parliament - Mothership Connection 26274 (72) Marvin Gaye - Let's Get It On 26075 (73) Miles Davis - Jack Johnson 25876 (74) Donna Summer "On the Radio" 25777 (75) John Cale - Paris 1919 25678 (76) Big Star - Third 25179 (83) Slits - Cut 24880 (77) Funkadelic - Maggot Brain Neu! - Neu! 24681 (79) Beatles - Let It Be Beach Boys - Surf's Up 24482 (82) Nick Drake - Bryter Later 24183 (78) John Lennon - Plastic Ono Band 24184 (81) Beach Boys - Surf's Up 24085 (85) Leonard Cohen - Songs Of Love And Hate 23286 (86) Parliament - Funkentelechy vs. The Placebo Syndrome 23187 (87) B52's - The B52's 22988 (88) Can - Future Days 22289 (100) Various - Nuggets 22190 (89) Sparks - No. 1 In Heaven 22091 (92) Sparks - Kimono My House 21492 (94) Augustus Pablo - King Tubby Meets Rockers Uptown 21493 (90) Steely Dan - Countdown to Ecstasy 21294 (91) Cheap Trick - At Budokan 21195 (93) Philip Glass - Einstein On The Beach 20896 (127) Pere Ubu - The Modern Dance 20897 (97) Kate Bush - The Kick Inside 20698 (95) Cure - Three Imaginary Boys 20499 (105) Captain Beefheart And The Magic Band - Lick My Decals Off, Baby 204100 (98) David Bowie - "Heroes" 203102 (96) Bruce Springsteen - Darkness On The Edge Of Town 203 203102 (99) New York Dolls - s/t 203
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 21:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 23:02 (eighteen years ago) link
Regret: As my vote was sent to the wrong place, Pere Ubu's "The Modern Dance" and CaptBeef's "Lick my Decals" missed out (shame).
However, there was something so right about the Nuggets box being in position 100.
And heck, how much fighting would there have been if "London Calling" was the 'real' number one?
You choose.
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 5 May 2005 06:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 5 May 2005 07:04 (eighteen years ago) link
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Thursday, 5 May 2005 07:05 (eighteen years ago) link
for completeness, here's the rest of the PFM 100. you can barely put a feather between the two camps these days, huh?
1 Low David Bowie 2 London Calling The Clash 3 Marquee Moon Television4 There's A Riot Goin' On Sly & the Family Stone5 Blood On The Tracks Bob Dylan6 Trans-Europe Express Kraftwerk7 Led Zeppelin IV8 Entertainment! Gang of Four9 Unknown Pleasures Joy Division10 Another Green World Brian Eno11 Exile On Main Street Rolling Stones12 Fun House The Stooges13 Pink Moon Nick Drake14 Loaded The Velvet Underground15 Who's Next The Who16 Singles Going Steady Buzzcocks17 Maggot Brain Funkadelic 18 Bitches Brew Miles Davis 19 Ege Bamyasi Can20 Electric Warrior T Rex21 Histoire de Melody Nelson Serge Gainsbourg22 Pink Flag Wire23 Ramones The Ramones24 Here Come the Warm Jets Brian Eno 25 Neu!26 Innervisions Stevie Wonder 27 Led Zeppelin III 28 Let It Be The Beatles29 Tago Mago Can30 On the Corner Miles Davis 31 Fear Of Music Talking Heads 32 The Wall Pink Floyd 33 Chairs Missing Wire34 Saturday Night Fever (soundtrack) 35 Y Pop Group36 Wish You Were Here Pink Floyd37 My Aim Is True Elvis Costello 38 Drums and Wires XTC 39 Suicide40 The Modern Lovers41 Rumours Fleetwood Mac 42 The Specials 43 Off The Wall Michael Jackson 44 The Clash45 More Songs About Buildings and Food Talking Heads 46 Heart of The Congos47 Call Me Al Green 48 Live-Evil Miles Davis 49 What's Going On Marvin Gaye 50 Starsailor Tim Buckley 51 Never Mind The Bollocks Here's The Sex Pistols52 This Year's Model Elvis Costello & the Attractions 53 Music for 18 Musicians Steve Reich 54 Cosmo's Factory Creedence Clearwater Revival 55 Bryter Layter Nick Drake 56 Future Days Can 57 Paul Simon
― zebedee (zebedee), Thursday, 5 May 2005 10:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― peepee (peepee), Thursday, 5 May 2005 11:05 (eighteen years ago) link
Hah! Me, too. I hated it until "Poptones" came on during shuffle. I'd heard it many times by them, but that anti-lilting guitar line just assailed me.. After that, listen to "Swan Lake" and then "Albatross".. I'm still not sure if I really like the second side (as it were) all that much..
― poortheatre (poortheatre), Thursday, 5 May 2005 11:18 (eighteen years ago) link
I feel the same way about "Exile on Main Street", which I finally got around to listening to the other day. I mean it's pleasant enough - kind of like the Stones doing the Dead - that sort of innocuous jammy country-blues-rock, but best Stones album? I don't get it.
― o. nate (onate), Thursday, 5 May 2005 14:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 5 May 2005 14:03 (eighteen years ago) link
A singles list seems like a nightmare because there are so many of them.
― BeeOK (boo radley), Saturday, 7 May 2005 23:31 (eighteen years ago) link
Sorry, was this thread going to sleep beore I prodded it again?
― mark grout (mark grout), Sunday, 8 May 2005 19:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Sunday, 8 May 2005 20:09 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dr. Gene Scott (shinybeast), Sunday, 8 May 2005 20:45 (eighteen years ago) link
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Quod Erat Demonstrandum
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Just to recap, for convenience and posterity:
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― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 30 November 2009 14:47 (fourteen years ago) link
I'd actually love it if Tuomas or Gear were to run the 70s poll again next.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 30 November 2009 18:23 (fourteen years ago) link
hobart paving made a bit of a pig's ear of this really.
― DavidM, Monday, 30 November 2009 18:44 (fourteen years ago) link
I'd be happy to curate another take on the seventies poll (lord knows I spend enough time on the computer already).
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 November 2009 18:51 (fourteen years ago) link
woohoo!!!Please dont limit nominations per person though!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 30 November 2009 19:02 (fourteen years ago) link
I'll start a nominations thread as soon as the current poll wraps up, then.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 November 2009 19:03 (fourteen years ago) link
cool, looking forward to this
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Monday, 30 November 2009 19:07 (fourteen years ago) link
fuck all other decades but the 70s imo
― it's like 10,000 goons when all you need is a trife (m bison), Monday, 30 November 2009 19:08 (fourteen years ago) link
there better be prog in the top 100 this time
― a. cole, u thic (acoleuthic), Monday, 30 November 2009 19:09 (fourteen years ago) link
thanks Johnny! This could be great!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 30 November 2009 19:10 (fourteen years ago) link
There'll be a lot of crossover, but surely we can surpass this nominations list right?
the 70s poll - rules, and nominations (¡FINAL VOTING ABOUT TO CLOSE - LAST CHANCE TO "MAKE THAT DIFFERENCE"!)
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 November 2009 20:13 (fourteen years ago) link
well copy and paste that list onto the nominations thread then we can all add to it and make it comprehensive.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 30 November 2009 20:26 (fourteen years ago) link
Steely Dan will be in the top 5 positions knowing ILM ;)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 30 November 2009 22:19 (fourteen years ago) link
I just had an idea about the re-poll. What if we remove the 100 albums in this list from contention in order to produce a much more interesting poll? Like, anything that placed here is completely off limits for nomination/voting this time. Canon be damned!
Thoughts?
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 10:37 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm in favour. Then I can vote for "The Belle Album"!
― E Poxy Thee Fule (Tom D.), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 10:40 (fourteen years ago) link
I like that idea.
― mooncup journey to vaja (The Reverend), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 11:00 (fourteen years ago) link
cant believe 'tusk' didnt even place on that poll
― just sayin, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 11:32 (fourteen years ago) link
ILM hadn't discovered it then
― E Poxy Thee Fule (Tom D.), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 11:32 (fourteen years ago) link
nor Aja!
― jabba hands, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 11:33 (fourteen years ago) link
i would be *completely* down for excluding everything here, but i'm not sure it should happen, if that makes sense
― a. cole, u thic (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 11:34 (fourteen years ago) link
i mean it would distort things too much and i wouldn't be able to vote for 154 which is godhead
― a. cole, u thic (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 11:35 (fourteen years ago) link
Or "Pacific Ocean Blue". ILM had different favourites in those days.
― E Poxy Thee Fule (Tom D.), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 11:36 (fourteen years ago) link
no, dont remove anything please. You will get much less voters too if you do, people wont be bothered to vote. The results will be different enough.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 13:46 (fourteen years ago) link
What's missing? From my library: I am Sitting in a Room, Sex Machine, Look-ka Py Py, Food for Thought, The Revolution Will Not be Televised, Delusion of the Fury, Right Time, Cochin Moon, Disco Club, Music for Airports, The Flying Lizards. Would a single one of these garner enough points to make the list? Maybe the Eno.
― Biodegradable (Derelict), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 14:00 (fourteen years ago) link
You will get much less voters too if you do, people wont be bothered to vote.
You could be right about this. But on the other hand, less people vote in polls now because the thinking is "Oh, [x albums] will make up most of the list, and that's boring...zzzz." I can see both sides of this, but not sure what would better suit a re-poll.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 18:29 (fourteen years ago) link
My brain couldn't handle coming up with a best albums of the 80s list, so it certainly won't be able to handle this
― E Poxy Thee Thule (Tom D.), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 18:31 (fourteen years ago) link
Fixed.
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 18:32 (fourteen years ago) link
no point in running a poll if you exclude stuff.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 20:09 (fourteen years ago) link
cant believe 'tusk' didnt even place on that poll______________________________Or "Pacific Ocean Blue". ILM had different favourites in those days.
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Indeed. A re-poll is needed.
― Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 1 December 2009 20:15 (fourteen years ago) link
Start from scratch a la the '80s poll imo.
― DavidM, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 20:16 (fourteen years ago) link
Okay, everything will be eligible then. I'm just not looking forward to seeing the same ol'. Do not disappoint me, nominators and voters!
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 20:18 (fourteen years ago) link
As i said, start the thread off with every album nominated last time so we can all add to it and make it really comprehensive.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 20:19 (fourteen years ago) link
naw, Johnny Fever, your OG idea is great, ignore this dude
― mooncup journey to vaja (The Reverend), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 22:57 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm ready for this!
― Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 03:45 (fourteen years ago) link
Any position on the canon/no-canon debate?
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 03:47 (fourteen years ago) link
ILX 70s album poll - results
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 03:48 (fourteen years ago) link
FIRMLY FOR NO-CANON
― balearific, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 04:30 (fourteen years ago) link
dunno how many votes we get but i think all of mine will go to the cars debut JUST TO MAKE MOTHERFUCKING SURE
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 04:54 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm going to use the same system Tuomas did, except nominations will have no limit.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 05:09 (fourteen years ago) link
steve reich - drummingphilip glass - music in 12 parts
― it's like 10,000 goons when all you need is a trife (m bison), Thursday, 3 December 2009 04:34 (fourteen years ago) link
oops!
So, what do we need to do?
― Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 3 December 2009 04:37 (fourteen years ago) link
go here and get to nominatin'DAMN THE CANON! It's the Alternate 1970s Albums Poll on ILX — Nominations Thread (Due by 11:59pm GMT, December 14th)
― WmC, Thursday, 3 December 2009 04:40 (fourteen years ago) link
What a great poll. Too bad I missed it!
― US EEL (u s steel), Friday, 4 December 2009 02:35 (fourteen years ago) link