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Decibel
40. The Dillinger Escape Plan - Dissociation
39. Eternal Champion - The Armor of Ire
38. Venomous Concept - Kick Me Silly VC III
37. Aluk Todolo - Voix
36. Inverloch - Distance | Collapsed
35. Eerie - Eerie
34. Sumac - What One Becomes
33. Child Bite - Negative Noise
32. Inquisition - Bloodshed Across the Empyrean Altar Beyond the Celestial Zenith
31. Cult of Luna & Julie Christmas - Mariner
30. Graves at Sea - The Curse that Is
29. Chthe’ilist - Le Dernier Crépuscule
28. Phobocosm - Bringer of Drought
27. Testament - Brotherhood of the Snake
26. SubRosa - For this We Fought the Battle of Ages
25. Bölzer - Hero
24. Neurosis - Fires Within Fires
23. Mizmor - Yodh
22. Wretch - Wretch
21. Virus - Memento Collider
20. Oathbreaker - Rheia
19. Ghoul - Dungeon Bastards
18. Diamond Head - Diamond Head
17. Meshuggah - The Violent Sleep of Reason
16. Destroyer 666 - Wildfire
15. Crowbar - The Serpent Only Lies
14. Funeral Moth - Transience
13. Blood Ceremony - Lord of Misrule
12. Asphyx - Incoming Death
11. Trap Them - Crown Feral
10. Cobalt - Slow Forever
9. Gorguts - Pleiades Dust
8. Hammers of Misfortune - Dead Revolution
7. Inter Arma - Paradise Gallows
6. Gehennah - Too Loud to Live, Too Drunk to Die
5. Abbath - Abbath
4. Oranssi Pazuzu - Värähtelijä
3. Blood Incantation - Starspawn
2. Nails - You Will Never Be One of Us
1. Khemmis - Hunted

Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 19 November 2016 20:14 (three months ago) Permalink

Mojo

01 David Bowie - Blackstar
02 Michael Kiwanuka - Love & Hate
03 Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds - Skeleton Tree
04 Lambchop - Flotus
05 Leonard Cohen - You Want It Darker
06 Iggy Pop - Post Pop Depression
07 Frank Ocean - Blonde
08 Paul Simon - Stranger To Stranger
09 PJ Harvey - The Hope Six Demolition Project
10 Heron Oblivion - Heron Oblivion
11 Radiohead - A Moon Shaped Pool
12 Beyonce - Lemonade
13 Teenage Fanclub - Here
14 Charles Bradley - Changes
15 The Cult - Hidden City
16 Bon Iver - 22, A Million
17 Dinosaur Jr - Give A Glimpse Of What Yer Not
18 Syd Arthur - Apricity
19 Modern Studies - Swell To Great
20 Bob Dylan - Fallen Angels
21 Ryley Walker - Golden Sings That Have Been Sung
22 Solange - A Seat At The Table
23 Kevin Morby - Singing Saw
24 Car Seat Headrest - Teens Of Denial
25 Skepta - Konnichiwa
26 Cass McCombs - Mangy Love
27 Case/Lang/Veirs - Case/Lang/Veirs
28 Angel Olsen - My Woman
29 Thee Oh Sees - A Weird Exits
30 The Monkees - Good Times!
31 Fat White Family - Songs For Our Mothers
32 The Still - The Still
33 Suede - Night Thoughts
34 David Crosby - Lighthouse
35 Field Music - Commontime
36 Wilco - Schmilco
37 James Blake - The Colour In Anything
38 William Bell - This Is Where I Live
39 White Denim - Stiff
40 Chance The Rapper - Coloring Book
41 Steve Gunn - Eyes On The Lines
42 Anohni - Hopelessness
43 Bitchin Bajas & Bonnie 'Prince' Billy - Epic Jammers And Fortunate Little Ditties
44 Meilyr Jones - 2013
45 Kendrick Lamar - Untitled Unmastered
46 Christine & The Queens - Chaleur Humaine
47 Van Morrison - Keep Me Swinging
48 The Comet Is Coming - Channel The Spirits
49 Nada Surf - You Know Who You Are
50 The Divine Comedy - Foreverland

Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 19 November 2016 20:15 (three months ago) Permalink

Uncut

01 David Bowie - Blackstar
02 Radiohead - A Moon Shaped Pool
03 Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds - Skeleton Tree
04 Leonard Cohen - You Want It Darker
05 Ryley Walker - Golden Sings That Have Been Sung
06 PJ Harvey - The Hope Six Demolition Project
07 Sturgill Simpson - A Sailor's Guide To Earth
08 Anohni - Hopelessness
09 Teenage Fanclub - Here
10 Beyonce - Lemonade
11 Thee Oh Sees - A Weird Exits
12 Brian Eno - The Ship
13 Drive-By Truckers - American Band
14 Bon Iver - 22, A Million
15 Wilco - Schmilco
16 Hiss Golden Messenger - Heart Like A Levee
17 Cavern Of Anti-Matter - Void Beats/Invocation Trex
18 Solange - A Seat At The Table
19 Lambchop - Flotus
20 Angel Olsen - My Woman
21 William Tyler - Modern Country
22 The Avalanches - Wildflower
23 Margo Price - Midwest Farmer's Daughter
24 Paul Simon - Stranger To Stranger
25 Iggy Pop - Post Pop Depression
26 Cate Le Bon - Crab Day
27 Shirley Collins - Lodestar
28 Case/Lang/Veirs - Case/Lang/Veirs
29 Kendrick Lamar - Untitled Unmastered
30 Frank Ocean - Blonde
31 Cass McCombs - Mangy Love
32 75 Dollar Bill - Wood/Metal/Plastic/Pattern/Rhythm/Rock
33 King Gizzard & The Lizard Wizard - Nonagon Infinity
34 Lucinda Williams - The Ghosts Of Highway 20
35 Eleanor Friedberger - New View
36 Jenny Hval - Blood Bitch
37 Tim Hecker - Love Streams
38 Chris Forsyth & The Solar Motel Band - The Rarity Of Experience
39 Shovels & Rope - Little Seeds
40 Lets Eat Grandma - I, Gemini
41 Anna Meredith - Varmints
42 Brigid Mae Power - Brigid Mae Power
43 Roisin Murphy - Take Her Up To Monto
44 Okkervil River - Away
45 King - We Are King
46 Swans - The Glowing Man
47 Handsome Family - Unseen
48 Skepta - Konnichiwa
49 Christine & The Queens - Chaleur Humaine
50 Kevin Morby - Singing Saw
51 Underworld - Barbara Barbara We Face An Uncertain Future
52 Various Artists - Day Of The Dead
53 Hinds - Leave Me Alone
54 Robbie Fulks - Upland
55 Soundwalk Collective W/Jessi Paris Smith & Patti Smith - Killer Road
56 Danny Brown - Atrocity Exhibition
57 Maxwell - Blacksummers' Day
58 Kaitlyn Aurelia Smith - Ears
59 Billy Bragg & Joe Henry - Shine A Light
60 Ty Segall - Emotional Mugger
61 John Cale - MFans
62 Ian William Craig - Centres
63 Richmond Fontaine - You Can't Go Back If There's Nothing To Go Back To
64 Gruff Rhys - Set Fire To The Stars
65 Emma Pollock - In Search Of Dangerfield
66 Charles Bradley - Changes
67 Steve Gunn - Eyes On The Lines
68 The Coral - Distance Inbetween
69 Allen Tousaint - American Tunes
70 Kiran Leonard - Grapefruit
71 The Comet Is Coming - Channel The Spirits
72 Oren Ambarchi - Hubris
73 Heron Oblivion - Heron Oblivion
74 Melt Yourself Down - Last Evenings On Earth
75 Psychic Temple - III

Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 19 November 2016 20:15 (three months ago) Permalink

Rough Trade
http://www.albumoftheyear.org/list/560-rough-trades-albums-of-the-year-2016/

Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 19 November 2016 20:16 (three months ago) Permalink

Piccadilly Records

http://www.albumoftheyear.org/list/576-piccadilly-records-top-100-albums-of-2016/

Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 19 November 2016 20:17 (three months ago) Permalink

http://www.resident-music.com/collection&path=21372

01 - Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds : Skeleton Tree
02 - Radiohead : a moon shaped pool
03 - David Bowie : ★ (blackstar)
04 - Michael Kiwanuka : Love & Hate
05 - Agnes Obel : Citizen Of Glass
06 - Underworld : Barbara Barbara, we face a shining future
07 - Julia Jacklin : Don't lets the kids win
08 - Josefin Ohrn + the Liberation : Mirage
09 - thee oh sees : a weird exits
10 - Christine & The Queens : Chaleur Humaine
11 - Bon Iver 22 : A Million
12 - Iggy Pop Post Pop Depression
13 - Damien Jurado : Visions of Us On The Land
14 - Steve Gunn : eyes on the lines
15 - Savages : adore life
16 - Cavern of Anti-Matter: void beats / invocation trex
17 - Throw Down Bones : Throw Down Bones
18 - car seat headrest : teens of denial
19 - Ulrika Spacek : The Album Paranoia
20 - Haley Bonar : Impossible Dream
21 - Leonard Cohen : you want it darker
22 - Angel Olsen My woman
23 - Death grips : bottomless pit
24 - Surgeon : From farthest known objects
25 - Mothers : When You Walk A Long Distance You Are Tired

Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 19 November 2016 21:42 (three months ago) Permalink

that vanishing twin album is something else

maura, Saturday, 19 November 2016 21:53 (three months ago) Permalink

It's that time of year again I see

pumped up kicks and levels on repeat all night (2011nostalgia), Saturday, 19 November 2016 22:28 (three months ago) Permalink

KING making the Uncut list is a pleasant surprise. Obviously it's way too low, but it's not an album I expected to see in there at all.

Kitchen Person, Saturday, 19 November 2016 23:12 (three months ago) Permalink

If I had to do a Pazz & Jop today, would prob incl. (in order of coming to mind) The Julie Ruin, Burnt Orange, PJ Harvey (took a while, but worth hanging in there, except for the first two tracks), Beyonce (xgau approves it but says it's more drama etc. than music?) Anderson.Paak, Rough Guide To Ethiopian Jazz (xgau approves it but says it isn't jazz?!),Tanya Tagaq (okay, he gets that one right on), Mekons, maybe Bowie, Cohen---gotta listen more. they don't get extra points for sudden death
Nashville Scene ballot would prob incl. two Willies (Gershwin & Ray Price tribs), Loretta, Austin Lucas, Western Centuries, Randy Rogers Band, Tomi Lunsford, prob Miranda, though haven't yet heard all of it; my hacked-in Americana/Countryoid/Related category will incl. Lucinda, Sturgill, Elizabeth Cook, and, I suspect, Peter Stampfel, though haven't listened to Holiday For Strings yet. Aaron Lewis's new set may earn the Don Henley Country Album Actually Doesn't Suck! Award this year.

dow, Sunday, 20 November 2016 00:40 (three months ago) Permalink

Have to make room in there somewhere for Toussaint's American Tunes!Prob over Cohen.

dow, Sunday, 20 November 2016 00:45 (three months ago) Permalink

Is Austin Lucas well regarded? I know him from back in the day, didn't really get on with him at the time, but have lots of friends in common so still see his posts on Facebook all the time, thought that was just a scene echo chamber thing.

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Sunday, 20 November 2016 00:54 (three months ago) Permalink

No, see recent posts about him by Edd Hurt on Rolling Country; that's what led me to him (other RCers also turned me on to Tomi Lunsford and Western Centuries)

dow, Sunday, 20 November 2016 01:03 (three months ago) Permalink

Also considering good new albums by Shovels & Rope and Charlie Daniels (only politics on his this time: implied by the cautionary "Runnin' With The Crowd", about cowboys getting too full of shared identity)

dow, Sunday, 20 November 2016 01:07 (three months ago) Permalink

I'm sorting out Elza Soares, Austin Lucas, Lori McKenna, Maren Morris, Leland Sundries, Steve Gunn, Richard Lloyd's Roseland, Western Centuries, Miranda,Bowie, Toussaint, Truckers, Bowie, Tommy Womack, Tacocat, Todd Snider, in the top tier so far. Dow, if you haven't checked out Tommy Womack's Namaste, I think you might really like it. Couple-three of the best songs I've heard all year. I need to hear the Stampfel, I'm a huge fan.

Edd Hurt, Sunday, 20 November 2016 02:02 (three months ago) Permalink

i believe i'm the Western Centuries source, after seeing them at Pickathon. quickly here, since it ain't a country thread: if you like country music, pick up their album Weight Of The World TODAY. it is outstanding. here's a sample: http://www.westerncenturies.com/music/

always enjoy this thread, hope that one dude keeps stats again, thanks for starting it Sloppy

alpine static, Sunday, 20 November 2016 02:11 (three months ago) Permalink

Checking out Oranssi Pazuzu - Värähtelijä and "Saturaatio" has some great guitar on it.

_Rudipherous_, Sunday, 20 November 2016 16:21 (three months ago) Permalink

worth noting over here, too (in addition to Rolling Metal) that the absence of Vektor's Terminal Redux from Decibel's list has elicited a universal "wha? why?"

alpine static, Sunday, 20 November 2016 16:41 (three months ago) Permalink

like i know that's the nature of these lists, but i think all would agree that's a stranger omission than most

alpine static, Sunday, 20 November 2016 16:44 (three months ago) Permalink

yeah it'd be like if mojo decided to leave off _blackstar_ for whatever reason.

xiphoid beetlebum (rushomancy), Sunday, 20 November 2016 18:38 (three months ago) Permalink

Quite a lot of love for the Kiwanuka record. I can hear the questing nature at the heart of it, but I dunno, it feels kinda neutered or sterilised.

Sunn O))) Brother Where Art Thou? (Chinaski), Sunday, 20 November 2016 19:19 (three months ago) Permalink

Esquire

http://www.albumoftheyear.org/list/579-esquires-20-best-albums-of-2016/

Cosmic Slop, Monday, 21 November 2016 20:29 (three months ago) Permalink

There was a M.I.A. album?

wanderly braggin' (seandalai), Monday, 21 November 2016 21:16 (three months ago) Permalink

it was pretty good

maura, Monday, 21 November 2016 21:20 (three months ago) Permalink

Isn't there still 10 % of the year left?

Tuomas, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 10:01 (three months ago) Permalink

yeah but labels know the year-end lists are published around this time, so they know that if they release new product in Dec it won't feature in the lists. it's their call.

heaven parker (anagram), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 10:14 (three months ago) Permalink

As expected, lots of shrines to the dead and dying (no offense Iggy, please don't croak just yet). That's fine. Has the Beyonce worship faltered, or will she come back strong in other lists with lil sis close behind? I like Solange but I thought the album was boring. Would expect to see Dawn Richard. Regarding December releases, Baroness released Purple Dec 18 but they still made some polls. As long as the band's PR team make sure promo streams make it out in time, shouldn't be an issue with the big rags. I'm used to Decibel omitting my favorites, but actually got two of mine this time, Khemmis and Hammers of Misfortune. I don't see how anyone can love the Blood Ceremony and not also include Purson's album. Yay for Mojo putting Syd Arthur in the top 20. Will I see Wolf People, Lola Colt and The Drones?

Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 14:08 (three months ago) Permalink

Since I'll be making them for myself, I'm gonna try to put EOY list playlists here for the ones posted... likely two tracks per album.

the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:17 (three months ago) Permalink

I'm assuming that Decibel deliberately go out of their way to make these lists distinctive from a RYM query for best 2016 metal, the top 4 there (Vektor, Ulcerate, Deathspell Omega and Insomnium) aren't on the Decibel list. Which is fine, there'd be no point to it otherwise.

Siegbran, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:46 (three months ago) Permalink

"We need to make a list of the best 2016 metal albums. Let's make sure we leave off the ones people really like."

xiphoid beetlebum (rushomancy), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 18:08 (three months ago) Permalink

Well can't speak for everyone but I'm mostly interested in a Decibel list to discover stuff that isn't already widely praised. I want to read which albums are remarkable despite not being favourites-by-consensus. This is also why I really look forward to the Textura list.

Siegbran, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 19:41 (three months ago) Permalink

FOPP top 100
http://www.albumoftheyear.org/list/582-fopps-best-albums-of-2016/

Cosmic Slop, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 19:56 (three months ago) Permalink

100. Travis - Everything at Once
*close window*

billstevejim, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 20:43 (three months ago) Permalink

Isn't there still 10 % of the year left?

But with the exception of sudden surprise releases, isn't December typically a pretty dry period for new albums?

MarkoP, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 20:48 (three months ago) Permalink

And even if there are sudden surprises, what artist could realistically be doing a surprise release this year?

MarkoP, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 20:52 (three months ago) Permalink

there's always a handful of surprise stray tracks. looking forward to those.

billstevejim, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 21:06 (three months ago) Permalink

p.s. Dec 2014 was amazing

billstevejim, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 21:06 (three months ago) Permalink

Beyonce and D'Angelo each released surprise December albums in recent years that rendered lots of lists incomplete. Kinda a refreshing reminder that not all artists need or remotely care about year-end validation.

December used to be a drop date for a lot of good but shelved albums from rap and R&B B-listers, but that doesn't seem to happen as much anymore.

Evan R, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 21:13 (three months ago) Permalink

Miguel's first album came out the first week of December, for instance. Major labels seem to treat December like movie studios treat January, a release date for projects they don't have high expectations for

Evan R, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 21:17 (three months ago) Permalink

Isn't there still 10 % of the year left?

Yes, but EOY lists coming out before the end of the year isn't particularly surprising or noteworthy at this point.

_Rudipherous_, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 21:20 (three months ago) Permalink

that FOPP list is hilariously, almost unbelievably bad

imago, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 21:25 (three months ago) Permalink

guillotine pour monsieur le fopp

imago, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 21:26 (three months ago) Permalink

won't someone think of the lists

a but (brimstead), Wednesday, 23 November 2016 21:27 (three months ago) Permalink

thank you Fopp for cheering me up

wanderly braggin' (seandalai), Wednesday, 23 November 2016 22:06 (three months ago) Permalink

Damn, we're publishing these already? The turkey isn't even cold!

Crazy Eddie & Jesus the Kid (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 23 November 2016 22:08 (three months ago) Permalink

i confess that i can't tell the difference between a bad year end list and a good year end list, but whenever i hear a mediocre record i immediately forget ever having heard it.

xiphoid beetlebum (rushomancy), Wednesday, 23 November 2016 22:09 (three months ago) Permalink

I still have Halloween candy left. What the fuck, music press?

how's life, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 23:31 (three months ago) Permalink

At least FOPP's list has the Warpaint album on it, which is better than could be said for the other lists so far, even if it was far too low.

how's life, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 23:34 (three months ago) Permalink

Yeah, and the Beth Orton.

Also, Cavern of antimatter, and the top shares loads with the other lists as per, so hey.

Mark G, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 23:56 (three months ago) Permalink

who is the Gaz Coombes of 2016

wanderly braggin' (seandalai), Thursday, 24 November 2016 00:07 (three months ago) Permalink

a but (brimstead), Thursday, 24 November 2016 00:10 (three months ago) Permalink

ha, my reaction to about 80% of the entries on that Fopp list was "I had no idea they were still going/I had no idea they released a new album this year"

soref, Thursday, 24 November 2016 00:16 (three months ago) Permalink

I mean, Richard Ashcroft? James?

soref, Thursday, 24 November 2016 00:17 (three months ago) Permalink

My contacts among the lumberjacks like what they've heard of this Neil Young album, out Dec.9---and some people are looking forward to the Stones' blues set:
http://www.metacritic.com/browse/albums/release-date/coming-soon/date

dow, Thursday, 24 November 2016 00:46 (three months ago) Permalink

gaz coombes of 2016 is quite possibly kate tempest

imago, Thursday, 24 November 2016 00:48 (three months ago) Permalink

I didn't realize until last week there was a new Kate Tempest record. Then I listened to it. How is it possible for it to be worse than her last one? I don't know, but it is.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 24 November 2016 01:25 (three months ago) Permalink

The Kate Tempest record might be the worst thing I've heard all year. It's an album with no redeeming features. That and The Anchoress album were the low points of my 2016 listening.

The inclusion of The Courteeners on that Fopp list is the most shocking one for me. The popularity of that group in the UK is baffling.

Surprised to see The Divine Comedy record pop up on a couple of lists. I love that band but it's an appalling album.

I know it's early days, but I have a feeling Shura's album is going to be the most disappointing omission on all these lists.

Kitchen Person, Thursday, 24 November 2016 01:47 (three months ago) Permalink

that james record was ok. some nice droney moments

maura, Thursday, 24 November 2016 07:40 (three months ago) Permalink

had never heard of kate tempest, but boy, i am glad somebody is picking up the gauntlet dolores o'riordan laid down in 1996.

xiphoid beetlebum (rushomancy), Thursday, 24 November 2016 11:03 (three months ago) Permalink

poor Kate Tempest. her first album wasn't THAT bad was it? (albeit in a 'hey, remember The Streets?' kind of way, admittedly). not heard this new one though

Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Thursday, 24 November 2016 12:07 (three months ago) Permalink

something so rare and refreshing about being able to enjoy exquisitely bad taste like that fopp list. it's a masterpiece

ogmor, Thursday, 24 November 2016 12:10 (three months ago) Permalink

there are a lot of great records on the fopp list tbh

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 24 November 2016 12:52 (three months ago) Permalink

You'd have to produce an astonishing list to have no good records on it, though.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 24 November 2016 14:23 (three months ago) Permalink

kate tempest is the ill manors of 2016

diary of a mod how's life (wins), Thursday, 24 November 2016 14:25 (three months ago) Permalink

that's more appropriate yeah

imago, Thursday, 24 November 2016 14:27 (three months ago) Permalink

but worse

imago, Thursday, 24 November 2016 14:28 (three months ago) Permalink

That Fopp list does read like it was compiled by a lot of people who haven't really liked music since the 90s.

Matt DC, Thursday, 24 November 2016 14:28 (three months ago) Permalink

Kaiser Chiefs not even in the Fopp list. Almost feel bad for the lads.

nashwan, Thursday, 24 November 2016 14:49 (three months ago) Permalink

Or another perspective, some people are not so quick to drop an artist because they're no longer in fashion. Travis does make me laugh, but to be fair, there's very little that's actually embarrassing. Plenty of other lists will do far worse. While I never liked Garbage, I heard the new album, and it's no worse than the old stuff. Bloc Party, Wild Beasts, The Julie Ruin, Explosions in the Sky, Pet Shop Boys, Primal Scream, Tindersticks, Lucinda Williams are all decent. #60-51 are not unusually retro entries. We'll see Dinosaur Jr on some other lists I'm sure. I like that Teleman is on there, even though I don't think it's quite in my top 100. I don't love the new Suede or Coral, but would take them over Bon Iver. I'm surprised they have De La Soul but not A Tribe Called Quest. Haven't heard the Dexys but would check it out. I used to like Lambchop, but find the latest a chore. Same with the Eno. Just recently heard Christine & the Queens. It's alright, but would never ever say it's close to album of the year territory.

The Piccadilly list has some interesting things:

Camera - Phantom of Liberty - Kosmische
The Mystery Lights - The Mystery Lights - Garage noir and psych. I saw them live last summer, lots of potential.
Cavern of Anti-Matter - Void Beats/Invocation Trex - More Kosmische!
Whyte Horses - Pop or Not - Certainly a unique #1 choice. Slightly psychedelic jangle pop, worth a listen.

Thee Oh Sees, Goat and Psychic Ills will probably turn out to be the go-to psych choices on most other lists. Wolf People, Lola Colt, Syd Arthur, Blues Pills, Purson and Causa Sui remain under the radar for most which is too bad. But what about Chris Forsyth & The Solar Motel Band? They were celebrated in the past, and The Rarity of Experience is a pretty glorious double album.

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 24 November 2016 15:13 (three months ago) Permalink

Bloc Party...decent.

What u smokin?

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 24 November 2016 15:16 (three months ago) Permalink

Teleman is a cool inclusion, I agree, but it's a cool inclusion from Fopp's extremely limited wheelhouse

imago, Thursday, 24 November 2016 15:24 (three months ago) Permalink

poor Kate Tempest. her first album wasn't THAT bad was it?

No, it wasnt, it had its moments but kinda wore out its welcome quickly.

Neptune Bingo (Michael B), Thursday, 24 November 2016 15:35 (three months ago) Permalink

that vanishing twin album is something else

Very much enjoying this. Thanks!

dinnerboat, Thursday, 24 November 2016 15:42 (three months ago) Permalink

1975 tops NME's list.

Rihanna has fallen off everyon's radar completely it seems.

piscesx, Thursday, 24 November 2016 16:27 (three months ago) Permalink

NME

50. Bon Iver – '22 A Million'
49. Public Access TV – 'Never Enough'
47. Wild Beasts – 'Boy King'
46. Savages - 'Adore Life'
45. Car Seat Headrest – 'Teens Of Denial'
44. The Lemon Twigs – 'Do Hollywood'
43. Anohni – 'Hopelessness'
42. Whitney – 'Light Upon The Lake'
41. Solange – 'A Seat At The Table
40. Rihanna – 'Anti'
39. Green Day – 'Revolution Radio'
38. Slaves – 'Take Control'
37. Soft Hair – 'Soft Hair'
36. Swet Shop Boys – 'Cashmere'
35. Glass Animals – 'How To Be A Human Being'
34. Let’s Eat Grandma – 'I, Gemini'
33. Margo Price – 'Midwest Farmers Daughter'
32. Kings Of Leon – 'Walls'
31. Bastille – 'Wild World'
30. Nao – 'For All We Know'
29. Kate Tempest – 'Let Them Eat Chaos'
28. Goat – 'Requiem'
27. Giggs – 'Landlord'
26. Biffy Clyro – 'Ellipsis'
25. Blossoms – 'Blossoms'
24. Nick Cave And The Bad Seeds – 'Skeleton Tree'
23. Michael Kiwanuka – 'Love And Hate'
22. Radiohead – 'A Moon-shaped-pool'
21. Anderson. Paak – 'Malibu'
20. Lady Gaga – 'Joanne'
19. White – 'Lung Paradise'
18. Tegan And Sara – 'Love You To Death'
17. Drake – 'Views'
16. Danny Brown – 'Atrocity Exhibition'
15. Kano – 'Made In The Manor'
14. Jamie T – 'Trick'
13. Angel Olsen – 'My Woman'
12. Sunflower Bean – 'Human Ceremony'
11. Beyonce – 'Lemonade'
10. Frank Ocean – 'Blond'
9. Chance The Rapper – 'Coloring Book'
8. Iggy Pop – 'Post Pop Depression'
7. Diiv – 'Is The Is Are'
6. David Bowie – 'Backstair'
5. Kaytranada – '99.9%'
4. Skepta – 'Konnichiwa'
3. Christine And The Queens – 'Chaleur Humaine'
2. Kanye West – 'The Life Of Pablo'
1. The 1975 – 'I Like It When You Sleep For You Are So Beautiful Yet So Unaware Of It'

Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 24 November 2016 17:07 (three months ago) Permalink

nice of them to spell the bowie properly :D

Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 24 November 2016 17:09 (three months ago) Permalink

and there's kate tempest again

imago, Thursday, 24 November 2016 17:15 (three months ago) Permalink

19. White – 'Lung Paradise'

Rae Kwoniff (NickB), Thursday, 24 November 2016 17:16 (three months ago) Permalink

future poet laureate kate tempest

imago, Thursday, 24 November 2016 17:16 (three months ago) Permalink

Somehow the Biffy Clyro album still remains the worst band/album on all these lists.

There just isn't anyone as hopeless or talentless out there selling as many albums as those cunts.

Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 24 November 2016 17:17 (three months ago) Permalink

the only reason i know who kate tempest is is because [ILXOR NAME REDACTED] texted me in disbelief that SPIN said she had made a better hip-hop album than Flockaveli

http://www.spin.com/featured/50-best-hip-hop-debut-albums-since-reasonable-doubt-jay-z/

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 24 November 2016 17:20 (three months ago) Permalink

isn't there a dan weiss zing thread on here somewhere

imago, Thursday, 24 November 2016 17:23 (three months ago) Permalink

I dislike Kate Tempest but attempting to sell her as hip-hop is pretty dumb. I know Imago has been trying to make this pile-on happen for about two years though so let him have his fun.

38. Slaves – 'Take Control'
37. Soft Hair – 'Soft Hair'
36. Swet Shop Boys – 'Cashmere'
35. Glass Animals – 'How To Be A Human Being'
34. Let’s Eat Grandma – 'I, Gemini'

I haven't heard a single note of any of these but this is probably the worst run of band and album names I've ever seen.

Matt DC, Thursday, 24 November 2016 17:26 (three months ago) Permalink

The brass neck of all that Skepta score inflation as well.

Matt DC, Thursday, 24 November 2016 17:29 (three months ago) Permalink

The music isn't very good either. Let's Eat Grandma did one fantastic song a few years ago when they were 13 but the album (including a rerecording of that song) is mostly just annoying

imago, Thursday, 24 November 2016 17:37 (three months ago) Permalink

Got it from here http://www.capitalxtra.com/news/nme-release-controversial-top-albums-of-2016-list/#d9T1ZFgL2fKyCThL.97

― Cosmic Slop, Thursday, November 24, 2016 5:10 PM (twenty-five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

cba to click through but does "controversial" mean "too many black people"?

wanderly braggin' (seandalai), Thursday, 24 November 2016 17:38 (three months ago) Permalink

yes

imago, Thursday, 24 November 2016 17:39 (three months ago) Permalink

lol

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 24 November 2016 17:41 (three months ago) Permalink

who tf cares about Kings of Leon in 2016?

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 24 November 2016 17:42 (three months ago) Permalink

cba to click through but does "controversial" mean "too many black people"?

It appears to mean 'no Drake and Beyonce too low' fwiw.

Matt DC, Thursday, 24 November 2016 17:46 (three months ago) Permalink

Drake is in the list, higher than Kate Tempest, lower than Jamie T.

nashwan, Thursday, 24 November 2016 17:54 (three months ago) Permalink

Again no Kaiser Chiefs. Starting to wonder if people have, like myself, not even heard the album.

nashwan, Thursday, 24 November 2016 17:56 (three months ago) Permalink

who will place Rihanna at #1? anyone?

billstevejim, Thursday, 24 November 2016 21:36 (three months ago) Permalink

i know right. and they'll all be doing anniversary splurges in 10 years time. possibly.

piscesx, Thursday, 24 November 2016 21:49 (three months ago) Permalink

Bloc Party...decent.

What u smokin?

Okay yeah, Hymns kind of sucks, though I still have fondness for the band. But regarding worse tastes than FOPP, exhibit A - NME!

Vanishing Twin is a nice chill listen. I'd recommend Josefin Öhrn + The Liberation - Mirage too.

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 24 November 2016 22:34 (three months ago) Permalink

FOPP list is fine for the most part, just a bit conservative and some token indie choices which probably shouldn't be there, that's par for the course surely.

On the other hand I just checked out Khemmis and was not at all impressed.

Not heard the new Kate Tempest but couple of tracks from her first one were good, dunno why single her out when there's a world of landfill indie out there, and apparently prog-hair-metal too

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Thursday, 24 November 2016 22:50 (three months ago) Permalink

there's a world of...prog-hair-metal too

That would be amazing if it were true. It would be a better world.

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 24 November 2016 23:00 (three months ago) Permalink

That would be amazing if it were true. It would be a better world.

― Fastnbulbous

I don't know, Elektradrive maybe?

xiphoid beetlebum (rushomancy), Thursday, 24 November 2016 23:38 (three months ago) Permalink

Maybe if Led Zeppelin existed in the 80s

a but (brimstead), Thursday, 24 November 2016 23:44 (three months ago) Permalink

I meant Khemmis

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Thursday, 24 November 2016 23:57 (three months ago) Permalink

interesting NME omissions; PJ Harvey, James Blake, Warpaint, Last Shadow Puppets.

this seems to be the year people get off the James Blake bus.

piscesx, Friday, 25 November 2016 01:43 (two months ago) Permalink

That must be the first time they haven't found room for an album involving Alex Turner on their list.

Kitchen Person, Friday, 25 November 2016 01:58 (two months ago) Permalink

I've still not listened to the PJ Harvey album and it's almost December. I guess I should.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Friday, 25 November 2016 03:09 (two months ago) Permalink

Thank god for people jumping off the blake bus one of those artists I never understood why they had a fanbase at all. Now if we could sweep Lana del Rey under a rug too.

No longer active (Moka), Friday, 25 November 2016 17:24 (two months ago) Permalink

hey now

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 25 November 2016 17:52 (two months ago) Permalink

Sister Ray Records

01 Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds - Skeleton Tree
02 Thee Oh Sees - A Weird Exits
03 Cavern Of Anti-Matter - Void Beats/Invocation Trex
04 Pangaea - In Drum Play
05 Meiylr Jones - 2013
06 Oliver Coates - Upstepping
07 Max Graef and Glenn Astro - The Yard Work Simulator
08 David Bowie - Blackstar
09 Powell - Sport
10 Steve Mason - Meet The Humans
11 Wolf People - Ruins
12 Whitney - Light Upon The Lake
13 Savoy Motel - Savoy Motel
14 Andy Stott - Too Many Voices
15 Iggy Pop - Post Pop Depression
16 Jessy Lanza – Oh No
17 King Gizzard and The Lizard Wizard - Nonagon Infinity
18 Margo Price - Midwest Farmers Daughter
19 Besnard Lakes - A Coliseum Complex Museum
20 Goat – Requiem
21 Solange - A Seat At The Table
22 Cate Le Bon – Crab Day
23 The Comet Is Coming – S/T
24 Dinosaur Jr. - Give a Glimpse of What Yer Not
25 Parquet Courts - Human Performance

Sister Ray Ace

01 David Bowie - Blackstar
02 The KVB - Of Desire
03 Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds - Skeleton Tree
04 Drugdealer - The End Of Comedy
05 Vanishing Twin - Choose Your Own Adventure
06 Charles Bradley - Changes
07 Homeboy Sandman - Kindness For Weakness
08 Cavern Of Anti-Matter - Void Beats/Invocation Trex
09 De La Soul - And The Anonymous Nobody
10 Christine And The Queens
11 Anohni - Hopelessness
12 Badbadnotgood - IV
13 Radiohead - A Moon Shaped Pool
14 Parquet Courts - Human Performance
15 John Carpenter's Lost Themes
16 Dinosaur Jr. - Give A Glimpse Of What Yer Not
17 Mitski - Puberty 2
18 Jenny Hval - Blood Bitch
19 Dean Ween Group - The Deaner Album
20 Roman Flügel - All The Right Noises

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 25 November 2016 19:08 (two months ago) Permalink

so, so weaksauce

imago, Friday, 25 November 2016 19:15 (two months ago) Permalink

sorry, stuck record I know. WE MUST RESPECT THE SANCTITY OF THESE LISTS WITH PARQUET COURTS ON THEM

imago, Friday, 25 November 2016 19:16 (two months ago) Permalink

i think it was the 75 minute running time that did for Blake this time round, i mean shit, not even James Blake would sit through 75 minutes of new James Blake.

piscesx, Friday, 25 November 2016 19:26 (two months ago) Permalink

I surprised The Avalanches album isn't getting more love so far

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Friday, 25 November 2016 19:47 (two months ago) Permalink

Prepare your sneers!

Classic Rock
http://teamrock.com/feature/2016-11-25/the-best-rock-albums-of-2016

50) Heart - Broken Beautiful
49) Weezer - The White Album
48) Purple - Bodacious
47) Joe Bonamassa - Blues Of Desperation
46) Drive-By Truckers - American Band
45) Ming City Rockers - Lemon
44) Hey! Hello! - Hey! Hello! Too!
43) Biffy Clyro - Ellipsis
42) Crobot - Welcome To Fat City
41) Brian Fallon - Painkillers
40) Syd Arthur - Apricity
39) Deap Vally - Femejism
38) Scorpion Child - Acid Roulette
37) Royal Republic - Weekend Man
36) The Virginmarys - Divides
35) Jeff Beck - Loud Hailer
34) Zakk Wylde - Book Of Shadows II
33) Teenage Fanclub - Here
32) Beware Of Darkness - Are You Real?
31) Van Morrison - Keep Me Singing
30) Sturgill Simpson - A Sailor’s Guide To Earth
29) Dream Theater - The Astonishing
28) Eric Clapton - I Still Do
27) Pretenders - Alone
26) Blackberry Smoke - Like An Arrow
25) Metallica - Hardwired… To Self-Destruct
24) Opeth - Sorceress
23) Ian Hunter And The Rant Band - Fingers Crossed
22) Hiss Golden Messenger - Heart Like A Levee
21) Chris Robinson Brotherhood - Anyway You Love, We Know How You Feel
20) Blues Pills - Lady In Gold
19) Tax The Heat - Fed To The Lions
18) Whiskey Myers - Mud
17) Hawkwind - The Machine Stops
16) Black Stone Cherry - Kentucky
15) Purson - Desire’s Magic Theatre
14) Alter Bridge - The Last Hero
13) Big Big Train - Folklore
12) Cheap Trick - Bang, Zoom, Crazy… Hello
11) Steven Wilson - 4 1/2
10) Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds - Skeleton Tree
9) The Answer - Solas
8) Rolling Stones - Blue & Lonesome
7) The Cadillac Three - Bury Me In My Boots
6) Rival Sons - Hollow Bones
5) The Temperance Movement - White Bear
4) Marillion - Fuck Everyone And Run (F E A R)
3) The Struts - Everybody Wants
2) David Bowie - Blackstar
1) Iggy Pop - Post Pop Depression

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 25 November 2016 21:55 (two months ago) Permalink

i think it was the 75 minute running time that did for Blake this time round, i mean shit, not even James Blake would sit through 75 minutes of new James Blake.

― piscesx

one of the great pleasures of being an artist is never having to suffer through your own work as spectator

xiphoid beetlebum (rushomancy), Friday, 25 November 2016 22:15 (two months ago) Permalink

"Prepare your sneers!

Classic Rock"

hey they found room for syd arthur at least

xiphoid beetlebum (rushomancy), Friday, 25 November 2016 22:16 (two months ago) Permalink

4) Marillion - Fuck Everyone And Run (F E A R)

wait, what

soref, Friday, 25 November 2016 22:17 (two months ago) Permalink

judging by their wiki page Marillion have some fairly touchy fans

In 1999, DJ Simon Mayo commented on BBC Radio 1: "Marillion ... where are they now? And who cares anyway?" Fans objecting to the comment brought the station's computer system to a standstill with thousands of emails of complaint. Mayo subsequently apologised for his comment to keyboard player Mark Kelly when he phoned the show to take part in a quiz.[74]

To accompany the release of Anoraknophobia in 2001, the band issued a press release asking critics to review the album in "a manner that is both accurate and fair. So, our challenge to you is to firstly listen to the album. Then write a review without using any of the following words: "Progressive rock", "Genesis", "Fish", "heavy metal", "dinosaurs", "predictable", "concept album". Because if you do, we'll know that you haven't listened to it."[74]

Rachel Cooke, a writer for The Observer and New Statesman, has repeatedly referred negatively to the band and insulted their fans in her articles.[76][77][78][79]

can't believe that Marillion have been continuing without Fish for nearly 30 years now

soref, Friday, 25 November 2016 22:22 (two months ago) Permalink

Marillion have huge fan funding support too, it's kind of amazing. I saw Heart an an outdoor concert this summer and Ann's voice is in great shape. Haven't been inspired to hear their new one though. Deap Vally is kind of fun. Pretenders was produced by Black Keys dude but you wouldn't know from hearing it. Cheap Trick album is not good. I love the Purson and Blues Pills, hope this isn't the only list to include them.

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 25 November 2016 22:35 (two months ago) Permalink

i refuse to believe that this iggy pop record is as good as all these lists are claiming

Mordy, Friday, 25 November 2016 22:36 (two months ago) Permalink

Otm

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 25 November 2016 22:37 (two months ago) Permalink

First list to include Metallica. I like the first disc plus 2 songs on 2nd.

I was surprised, I thought the Iggy album was going to be forgotten. It's not terrible, but certainly not amazing, too many painfully awkward moments on it. I think it's a combination of reverence for old farts and everything Josh Homme touches.

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 25 November 2016 22:39 (two months ago) Permalink

However, if you have a chance to catch a re-run of Iggy's recent performance on Austin City Limits, do so, it's one of the best shows they've had this year.

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 25 November 2016 22:47 (two months ago) Permalink

It's pretty mediocre, in my opinion. I'm not a fan of Iggy for the most part, but I was hoping for much more with Josh Homme involved.

how's life, Friday, 25 November 2016 22:47 (two months ago) Permalink

i like it a lot. happy to see deap vally and blackberry smoke on a list

maura, Friday, 25 November 2016 23:08 (two months ago) Permalink

when does the WIRE list usually drop?

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Saturday, 26 November 2016 01:52 (two months ago) Permalink

Wire list will be in their January issue, so in a couple of weeks. (I voted.)

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Saturday, 26 November 2016 02:07 (two months ago) Permalink

Some surprising choices on NME's songs of the year list.

20. Angel Olsen – ‘Shut Up Kiss Me’
19. Hamilton Leithauser + Rostam – ‘A 1000 Times’
18. Blossoms – ‘Charlemagne’
17. Drake – ‘One Dance’
16. Kaytranada – ‘Lite Spots’
15. Bastille – ‘Good Grief’
14. Tove Lo – ‘Cool Girl’
13. Warpaint – ‘New Song’
12. The 1975 – ‘The Sound’
11. David Bowie – ‘Lazarus’
10. Charli XCX – ‘After The Afterparty’
9. Lady Leshurr – ‘Where Are You Now?’
8. Skepta – ‘Man’
7. Kanye West – ‘Ultralight Beam’
6. Beyoncé – ‘Formation’
5. Christine & The Queens – ‘Tilted’
4. Iggy Pop – ‘Gardenia’
3. Chance The Rapper – ‘All Night’
2. The 1975 – ‘Somebody Else’
1. Rihanna – ‘Work’

Kitchen Person, Saturday, 26 November 2016 14:52 (two months ago) Permalink

Not surprising at all, clearly you dont get the free nme in america KP ;)

that is exactly what they cover now.

Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 26 November 2016 16:43 (two months ago) Permalink

ps i doubt anyones ever seen one outside of London..

Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 26 November 2016 16:43 (two months ago) Permalink

1. The 1975 – 'I Like It When You Sleep For You Are So Beautiful Yet So Unaware Of It'

Worst album title since Sometimes I Sit and Think and Sometimes I Sit and Think About Things or whatever the fuck it's called.

Mr. Snrub, Sunday, 27 November 2016 12:36 (two months ago) Permalink

i just kind of assume they're going for the creepy stalker vibe on that one, and so i think of it as successful.

xiphoid beetlebum (rushomancy), Sunday, 27 November 2016 12:42 (two months ago) Permalink

it's more 'earnest youth who through performative rendering of this verges upon creepy stalker' imo

imago, Sunday, 27 November 2016 13:48 (two months ago) Permalink

9. Lady Leshurr – ‘Where Are You Now?’

NME OTM.

When did you last see any critical volte-face as rapid as the one the NME performed over the 1975?

Matt DC, Sunday, 27 November 2016 16:24 (two months ago) Permalink

Pitchfork on Trail of Dead lol

imago, Sunday, 27 November 2016 16:52 (two months ago) Permalink

Hmmm... couldn't get into this Powell record. I was curious and tried, but nothing.

I suspect it will show up on a quite few lists from outlets that don't really focus on dance music. Feels like that sort of record.

MikoMcha, Sunday, 27 November 2016 17:18 (two months ago) Permalink

It's secretly like a rock record or something. In disguise.

MikoMcha, Sunday, 27 November 2016 17:19 (two months ago) Permalink

like black strobe?

a but (brimstead), Sunday, 27 November 2016 19:49 (two months ago) Permalink

That top ten seems like pretty standard music publication fare at first, and then you have the Rolling Stones stuck in the middle to remind you that this is Rolling Stone.

MarkoP, Monday, 28 November 2016 17:53 (two months ago) Permalink

Every song I've heard from the Rolling Stones album has been great. I'm actually excited to hear the whole thing.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Monday, 28 November 2016 18:36 (two months ago) Permalink

I know it just came out but Tribe only being #30 is bullshit

Number None, Monday, 28 November 2016 19:16 (two months ago) Permalink

^^^

¶ (DJP), Monday, 28 November 2016 19:19 (two months ago) Permalink

TIME
(or time.com anyway)

Songs
1. Beyoncé - "Formation"
2. The 1975 - "The Sound"
3. Dawn Richard - "Not Above That"
4. Chance the Rapper et al - "No Problem"
5. Fifth Harmony ft. Ty Dollar $ign - "Work From Home"
6. D.R.A.M ft. Lil Yachty - "Broccoli"
7. Whitney - "No Woman"
8. Joyce Manor - "Fake ID"
9. Mac Miller ft. Anderson.Paak - "Dang!"
10. Kanye - "Famous"

LPs
1. Frank Ocean
2. Solange
3. Mitski
4. Angel Olsen
5. The Range - Potential
6. Radiohead
7. Rihanna
8. Blood Orange
9. Esparanza Spalding
10. Jean-Michel Blais - II

Jeff W, Monday, 28 November 2016 19:22 (two months ago) Permalink

I know it just came out but Tribe only being #30 is bullshit

Three places above Sting dude!

Matt DC, Monday, 28 November 2016 19:26 (two months ago) Permalink

So what will this year's acronym be? CROBIB (Cave, Radiohead, Ocean, Bowie, Iggy, Beyonce)? BBOICR?

Fastnbulbous, Monday, 28 November 2016 19:28 (two months ago) Permalink

Joyce Manor and Dawn Richard making the Time songs list makes me happy.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 28 November 2016 19:29 (two months ago) Permalink

Mac Miller ft. Anderson.Paak - "Dang!"

I can't remember who tweeted it (maybe some dude), but my favorite capsule review of this track was "Why is Mac Miller mumbling all over this good Anderson Paak song?"

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Monday, 28 November 2016 19:31 (two months ago) Permalink

looking forward to p4k's list mentioning the election in every blurb the way they did w/ 9/11

I've read Ta-nehisi Coates. (marcos), Monday, 28 November 2016 19:32 (two months ago) Permalink

5. The Range - Potential

I really enjoyed this, it sounds like what all the positive reviews of the Jamie XX album made me expect from it

boxedjoy, Monday, 28 November 2016 20:44 (two months ago) Permalink

'Gardenia' is the one Iggy LP song I've heard and "All I want to do is tell Gardenia what to do tonight" is the clunkiest line I've heard all year.

nashwan, Monday, 28 November 2016 21:29 (two months ago) Permalink

God bless you whoever recommended Vanishing Twin upthread

the article don, Monday, 28 November 2016 21:51 (two months ago) Permalink

the de la soul album has no place on any year end list what the hell?

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 28 November 2016 21:54 (two months ago) Permalink

Whenever I see a mention of The Range, I think "aw, it's nice that Bruce Hornsby's backing band is still doing things."

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Monday, 28 November 2016 22:13 (two months ago) Permalink

So what will this year's acronym be? CROBIB (Cave, Radiohead, Ocean, Bowie, Iggy, Beyonce)? BBOICR?

― Fastnbulbous

for a second i thought the media were finally coming around to psychic psummer :(

xiphoid beetlebum (rushomancy), Monday, 28 November 2016 22:25 (two months ago) Permalink

Heh. If I use Nick's first initial too, it could be BBOINCR.

Fastnbulbous, Monday, 28 November 2016 23:23 (two months ago) Permalink

add Leonard Cohen, substitute Beyonce for another a more rockist-friendly second O and you can have BROCCOLI

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 28 November 2016 23:30 (two months ago) Permalink

Oranssi Pazuzu

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Monday, 28 November 2016 23:47 (two months ago) Permalink

looking forward to p4k's list Pazz and Jop mentioning the election in every blurb the way they did w/ 9/11 Bush's reelection.

Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 00:19 (two months ago) Permalink

Time factor is no excuse for A Tribe getting stuck in the middle of the RS list, since they had time to get it in there at all: one listen should do it for most of the music and enough of the words.

dow, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 00:36 (two months ago) Permalink

At least.

dow, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 00:37 (two months ago) Permalink

I know yall know that, just venting sorry.

dow, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 00:38 (two months ago) Permalink

maybe RS just thought there were 29 records better than that one this year? i don't think that seems all that ridiculous. there are more ridiculous things on that list.

alpine static, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 01:03 (two months ago) Permalink

Not all of those29 were better, although I guess you could say that (or anything) is "arguable."

dow, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 01:21 (two months ago) Permalink

none of those 29 were better tbf

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 01:23 (two months ago) Permalink

and i thought the RS list was generally p good

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 01:23 (two months ago) Permalink

whiney sure cleaned that place up

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 01:23 (two months ago) Permalink

none of those 29 were better tbf Maybe some of them are; I haven't heard 'em all. But: Margo Price's slick knock-off of Loretta Lynn starts okay, gets too predictable, and oops here's the actual Loretta with a good new album of her own. Brandi Clark's album is more fluid than her first, but she's still the self-conscious workshopper, as singer and writer (Alfred cites her tendency to mistake detail for significance). Bon Iver is the opposite, an overachiever, more Bon Iver than ever. Nick Cave is still Nick Cave. The Parquet Courts and Drive-By Truckers albums are both about half-good (minority report). For instance.

dow, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 01:37 (two months ago) Permalink

I mean I'm usually just, "Lists, schmists", but in this case, it's almost amazing.

dow, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 01:43 (two months ago) Permalink

Count RS among publications that don't seem to realize that Parquet Courts have two singers. By my count, 3 of the 4 songs that supposedly show Savage musing with "thoughtful detachment" were actually sung by the other guy.

o. nate, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 01:57 (two months ago) Permalink

Dutch OOR magazine (only) misses the I in CROBIB
1. David Bowie - Blackstar
2. Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds - Skeleton Tree
3. Radiohead - A Moon Shaped Pool
4. Anderson .Paak - Malibu
5. Beyoncé - Lemonade
6. PJ Harvey - The Hope Six Demolition Project
7. Car Seat Headrest - Teens Of Denial
8. Frank Ocean - Blonde
9. Chance The Rapper - Coloring Book
10. Eefje de Visser - Nachtlicht

willem, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 13:20 (two months ago) Permalink

I mean I'm usually just, "Lists, schmists", but in this case, it's almost amazing.

― dow

it's almost as if some people aren't familiar with the typical results of lists made by committee

xiphoid beetlebum (rushomancy), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 13:47 (two months ago) Permalink

almost, but not quite

dow, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 13:56 (two months ago) Permalink

It's almost as if some people think the Tribe Called Quest album is...just okay.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 14:12 (two months ago) Permalink

Eefje de Visser - Nachtlicht

This is really nice!

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 14:54 (two months ago) Permalink

i kind of like BBROCLI as an acronym for this year's heavy hitters since it's sort of a shout out to one of the best singles

maura, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 14:55 (two months ago) Permalink

that is an extremely irritating heavy-hitters list in what has been a phenomenal year for music. can we please avoid using it

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 14:58 (two months ago) Permalink

hey don't blame me, i'm voting for maxwell

maura, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 15:01 (two months ago) Permalink

Is there a term for when people try and find increasingly torturous variations on something that worked once on ILM? 'What is this year's GAPDY?' is almost as annoying as 'what is this year's Gaz Coombes?' New Jerseying is the best I can think of.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 15:22 (two months ago) Permalink

Tribe Called Quest omissions are seriously insane. I really don't know what to say.

dlp9001, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 16:31 (two months ago) Permalink

Not sure people are really ready for how good it is

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 16:43 (two months ago) Permalink

I guess We got it from Here... was released too late for magazines which publishes year-end lists end of November? Hope too see it in lists made up now and later on.

maarten, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 16:45 (two months ago) Permalink

Yeah it came out very late. And it did take a little time to process just how excellent it is. Lots of publications' ballots closed before or just days after the LP came out

Evan R, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 16:59 (two months ago) Permalink

I keep confusing the Tribe and Bon Iver album covers when they come up on my phone.

dinnerboat, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 17:28 (two months ago) Permalink

I guess We got it from Here... was released too late for magazines which publishes year-end lists end of November?

Also poor timing on Leonard Cohen's death.

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 18:59 (two months ago) Permalink

buuut one of them died at a far more untimely age

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 19:03 (two months ago) Permalink

<i>Is there a term for when people try and find increasingly torturous variations on something that worked once on ILM? 'What is this year's GAPDY?' is almost as annoying as 'what is this year's Gaz Coombes?' New Jerseying is the best I can think of.</i>

I'm glad you're annoyed, that was the point. The hivemind voting overwhelmingly for a tiny group of 5-6 albums is annoying. It deserves an annoying acronym.

I think it's mainly the result of lazy participants to these polls not putting much effort into diving deep and really exploring albums they might have missed earlier in the year. If more people did that, the results would be more diverse.

Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 20:21 (two months ago) Permalink

But the new acronym will not represent the ILM favourites at all. Do you see K for King? D for Dawn? T for Tribe? Another K for Kaitlyn Aurelia Smith? A number 1 for The 1975? Exactly, no.

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 20:38 (two months ago) Permalink

I mean, sure it'll be annoying if those albums top all the critic lists not on ILX, but I'm sure they won't.

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 20:43 (two months ago) Permalink

The 1975 are more like a number two, tbf.

Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 20:51 (two months ago) Permalink

But the new acronym will not represent the ILM favourites at all.

You don't actually know this until the polls are run, unless of course we are now at the point where we as an en masse messageboard are using the poll as a mechanism to curate a list that makes us the specialist snowflakes on the Internet rather than aggregating the opinions of the participating voters on which albums/tracks they liked the most over the past year.

¶ (DJP), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 20:57 (two months ago) Permalink

If there's a way to suck fun out of polls im sure some ilxors will be at the forefront of it

Cosmic Slop, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 21:03 (two months ago) Permalink

xp fair, but other albums will be given equal love, that's all. and iggy pop, really now

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 21:05 (two months ago) Permalink

I haven't heard the iggy pop album, but what if it is actually really good?

Cosmic Slop, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 21:07 (two months ago) Permalink

i listened to the first few songs. it [imho] isn't.

Mordy, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 21:22 (two months ago) Permalink

man, that avalanches record from this year really is great

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 21:23 (two months ago) Permalink

EOY polls without some noticeable element of gaming or tactical voting make for some v boring results. Besides, you wouldn't have a nomination process before voting or promotion process during voting if you were aiming for some kind of pure democratic reflection of the board's tastes that could remain discernible from numerous other EOY lists from the publications people here read and in some cases also write for.

nashwan, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 21:28 (two months ago) Permalink

The nomination process was initially in place to normalize the names people used in their ballots in order to make tabulation of the results easier.

¶ (DJP), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 21:47 (two months ago) Permalink

We will get somewhat idiosyncratic results anyway because we are a smallish, inwardly-focused community that has been hyping each other on specific artists that aren't necessarily popping up on every EOY published. We will see more overlap than we used to because a significant percentage of the people who post here are also driving/contributing to the EOY lists of publications and have disseminating stuff discussed here to a wider audience, some of which may have caught on. If the point of the poll is to be different from everyone else rather than to catch up on what everyone liked, particularly within balkanized subgroups that may not overlap, I think the poll is now pointless.

¶ (DJP), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 22:01 (two months ago) Permalink

the point of the poll is to be different from everyone else rather than to catch up on what everyone liked, particularly within balkanized subgroups that may not overlap, I think the poll is now pointless.

otm

Cosmic Slop, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 22:04 (two months ago) Permalink

completely agree. what i was doing was simply pointing out that 'what everyone liked' on here wouldn't necessarily square exactly with the publication consensus (insofar as there will be one)

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 22:06 (two months ago) Permalink

and that i have been otm in this thread

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 22:06 (two months ago) Permalink

I don't think GAPDY had to do with the ILM poll, just all the other polls overwhelmingly placing that group of albums at the top. One of the best things about ILM is I don't think it's predictable. We're not saying an ILM poll is pointless are we?

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 05:08 (two months ago) Permalink

http://www.treblezine.com/32855-overlooked-albums-2016/

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 05:12 (two months ago) Permalink

http://www.popmatters.com/feature/the-best-progressive-rock-and-metal-of-2016/

There's no metal in that list, don't know why they say that.

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 05:18 (two months ago) Permalink

The nomination process was initially in place to normalize the names people used in their ballots in order to make tabulation of the results easier.

Still is, but it's turned into a hell of a Spotify playlist to dig into over xmas holidays.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 05:19 (two months ago) Permalink

Here's the top 20 so far, points allocated in the same way as the ILM artist polls:

DAVID BOWIE - ★ | 1045 points | 5 first place votes
NICK CAVE & THE BAD SEEDS - SKELETON TREE | 815 points | 3 first place votes
RADIOHEAD - A MOON SHAPED POOL | 727 points | 1 first place vote
IGGY POP - POST POP DEPRESSION | 536 points | 3 first place votes
BEYONCÉ - LEMONADE | 419 points | 2 first place votes
THEE OH SEES - A WEIRD EXITS | 412 points | 0 first place votes
FRANK OCEAN - BLONDE | 373 points | 1 first place vote
LEONARD COHEN - YOU WANT IT DARKER | 336 points | 1 first place vote
CHRISTINE AND THE QUEENS - CHALEUR HUMAINE | 324 points | 0 first place votes
CAVERN OF ANTI-MATTER - VOID BEATS/INVOCATION TREX | 308 points | 0 first place votes
BON IVER - 22, A MILLION | 296 points | 1 first place vote
ANGEL OLSEN - MY WOMAN | 288 points | 0 first place votes
PJ HARVEY - THE HOPE SIX DEMOLITION PROJECT | 277 points | 0 first place votes
CAR SEAT HEADREST - TEENS OF DENIAL | 269 points | 0 first place votes
SOLANGE - A SEAT AT THE TABLE | 244 points | 0 first place votes
MARGO PRICE - MIDWEST FARMER'S DAUGHTER | 238 points | 0 first place votes
MICHAEL KIWANUKA - LOVE & HATE | 232 points | 0 first place votes
CHARLES BRADLEY - CHANGES | 219 points | 0 first place votes
ANOHNI - HOPELESSNESS | 217 points | 0 first place votes
CHANCE THE RAPPER - COLORING BOOK | 212 points | 0 first place votes

nate woolls, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 11:06 (two months ago) Permalink

xp I don't think I finished getting through the noms playlist until March - ended up finding lots of stuff I would've voted for if I'd got to it sooner but with most of it unlikely to trouble the top 100. But being able to hear almost everything definitely enriches the occasion.

nashwan, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 11:13 (two months ago) Permalink

Also poor timing on Leonard Cohen's death.

It doesn't really matter, because everyone knew he was going to die shortly. It isn't actually significantly better than his last couple of records (both great), but the sense of import that hangs over it set it apart in a lot of critics' eyes. It's part of a trio of albums from this year, all from long running artists, that are absolutely saturated in death - the others being Blackstar and Skeleton Tree obviously. And death and gloom definitely hang heavily over 2016 in general.

The Tribe Called Quest album in contrast is completely joyous and overflowing with life and should be right near the top of all these lists.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 13:01 (two months ago) Permalink

AND it's about one of them dying as well, yet still all the things you say

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 13:09 (two months ago) Permalink

Nice that Cavern of Anti-Matter is getting so much attention

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 13:42 (two months ago) Permalink

I don't think GAPDY had to do with the ILM poll, just all the other polls overwhelmingly placing that group of albums at the top

yes, GAPDY was much bigger than ILM. Wasn't that what prompted P4K dude to crow about how the poll results showed we were really a center-indie nation?

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 15:10 (two months ago) Permalink

it is weird how everyone's going wild for iggy. might even have to listen to it

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 15:27 (two months ago) Permalink

As the inventor of GAPDY (huge sigh), it was partially about the critical hive mind but mostly about how it leaned white, post-collegiate and indie in 2009. Since most of this year's biggest critical smashes are R&B records it doesn't make sense to force an acronym. (Not that it ever would)

Also, the only reason Beyoncé isn't dominating everything right now is because all the lists out (besides RS) are by British people.

Also, P4k guy signed up with Beats before they got sold, while we're still making 12 Rods jokes and polling albums with the same group of failsons

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 15:31 (two months ago) Permalink

it is weird how everyone's going wild for iggy. might even have to listen to it

Don't.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 15:33 (two months ago) Permalink

so far it's a semi-decent josh homme record

still haven't heard Lemonade. gonna have to aren't I

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 15:38 (two months ago) Permalink

Lemonade is fucking great.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 16:09 (two months ago) Permalink

the only reason Beyoncé isn't dominating everything right now is because all the lists out (besides RS) are by British people

And because people kept dying.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 16:25 (two months ago) Permalink

ILM should get a shared TIDAL account. We just need a vote on what the password should be.

nashwan, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 16:26 (two months ago) Permalink

henfap

Mark G, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 16:31 (two months ago) Permalink

The Iggy Pop album is way better than I would have expected a 2016 Iggy Pop album to be. It's OK.

silverfish, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 17:08 (two months ago) Permalink

Have King appeared anywhere yet btw

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 17:50 (two months ago) Permalink

stay tuned!

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 17:53 (two months ago) Permalink

xpost the Uncut list

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 18:11 (two months ago) Permalink

speaking of posthumous albums, I realize this is me reverting back to primordial commenter form but everyone seems to have dismissed the school of seven bells record

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 18:35 (two months ago) Permalink

Yeah, that's unfortunate. It's an excellent album.

jmm, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 19:00 (two months ago) Permalink

Yeah, I've been disappointed to see School Of Seven Bells miss out. I don't think they were ever really that popular with the critics. I have no idea why.

Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 19:59 (two months ago) Permalink

SVIIB is probably my favourite album of the year that doesn't have a Kaitlyn Aurelia Smith credit

boxedjoy, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 20:03 (two months ago) Permalink

Paste Magazine. Lots of things I've never heard of.

https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2016/11/the-50-best-albums-of-2016.html?a=1

Jeff W, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 20:24 (two months ago) Permalink

speaking of posthumous albums, I realize this is me reverting back to primordial commenter form but everyone seems to have dismissed the school of seven bells record

Not me! One of my most played records this year.

Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 21:03 (two months ago) Permalink

I listened to School of Seven Bells for about a week and then haven't gone back to it. I've spent more time this year with the Monkees album.

¶ (DJP), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 21:13 (two months ago) Permalink

Both are mighty fine things.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 21:17 (two months ago) Permalink

The Paste top 5 is pretty great, except for Car Seat Headrest clogging it up. The rest is boooooring af.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 22:30 (two months ago) Permalink

(Not all bad, but a lot bad, and the good things are the same things I've already seen.)

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 22:31 (two months ago) Permalink

Paste Magazine? Boring? No way.

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 22:37 (two months ago) Permalink

Routinely shit-talking Paste is my part-time hobby, so co-sign.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 22:45 (two months ago) Permalink

Is anyone on ILM a fan of Car Seat Headrest? I have some friends who love it and I just don't get the EOY praise it's getting. Seems like run of the mill indie rock to me and boring one at that.

No longer active (Moka), Thursday, 1 December 2016 00:38 (two months ago) Permalink

Cate Le Bon seems like a real oversight on that Paste list (judging by the other artists on there).

Ross, Thursday, 1 December 2016 01:35 (two months ago) Permalink

Always an eclectic list:

http://tedgioia.com/bestalbumsof2016.html

o. nate, Thursday, 1 December 2016 01:49 (two months ago) Permalink

as loath as I am to approve of ted gioia I am listening to this hannah epperson album and it is quite good

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Thursday, 1 December 2016 02:37 (two months ago) Permalink

If all the picks on that Treble list are as good as the first one, I'm going to be spending a lot of time with it.

o. nate, Thursday, 1 December 2016 02:44 (two months ago) Permalink

Listening to 1021 new albums a year... what a life

a but (brimstead), Thursday, 1 December 2016 03:20 (two months ago) Permalink

what a crushing bore. take out the jazz and you're left with what everyone else has

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Thursday, 1 December 2016 03:46 (two months ago) Permalink

Radiohead always suffers from buyer's regret in the EOY lists. I could bet AMSP would be in several top 10s if they had released it a month ago.

No longer active (Moka), Thursday, 1 December 2016 04:32 (two months ago) Permalink

Their releases always get hyped to death is what I mean.

No longer active (Moka), Thursday, 1 December 2016 04:35 (two months ago) Permalink

Lists are missing the Tribe Called Quest album. This is unacceptable.

No longer active (Moka), Thursday, 1 December 2016 04:42 (two months ago) Permalink

as loath as I am to approve of ted gioia I am listening to this hannah epperson album and it is quite good

― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Wednesday, November 30, 2016 9:37 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

idk who this guy is but yeah this is cool!

call all destroyer, Thursday, 1 December 2016 14:33 (two months ago) Permalink

Yep.

Siegbran, Thursday, 1 December 2016 14:46 (two months ago) Permalink

Cate Le Bon seems like a real oversight on that Paste list

I wonder what effect keeping an album off of Spotify has on eoy list placement.

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Thursday, 1 December 2016 15:09 (two months ago) Permalink

http://www.stereogum.com/featured/the-50-best-albums-of-2016/

Some good stuff in the lower reaches with a very consensus-y top five

Top 10:
10. Danny Brown
9. Kanye
8. Mitski
7. Angel Olsen
6. Solange
5. Bowie
4. Tribe
3. Chance
2. Frank Ocean
1. Beyonce

I know hoes that know Ali Farka Toure (voodoo chili), Thursday, 1 December 2016 15:19 (two months ago) Permalink

(ted gioia is a jazz critic who is very bad at writing about pop. which is fair, I probably would be very bad at writing about jazz, but I don't write dismissive takes about it in salon or wherever)

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Thursday, 1 December 2016 15:45 (two months ago) Permalink

is the frank ocean any good

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Thursday, 1 December 2016 15:47 (two months ago) Permalink

good question

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Thursday, 1 December 2016 15:50 (two months ago) Permalink

that stereogum top 10 is close to what I'm expecting to see from here on out

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Thursday, 1 December 2016 16:04 (two months ago) Permalink

i thought the frank ocean record was terrible tbh. imago might enjoy the sounds on that danny brown though?

Rae Kwoniff (NickB), Thursday, 1 December 2016 16:04 (two months ago) Permalink

The Frank Ocean album is probably the year's biggest grower. It seemed like a self-evident disappointment at first but it really opens up. I ended up listening to it as much as just about anything this year

Evan R, Thursday, 1 December 2016 16:11 (two months ago) Permalink

Norman Records Top 100 is a great list every year.

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 1 December 2016 16:16 (two months ago) Permalink

Beat me to it LBI

For bodies we are ready to build pyramids (wtev), Thursday, 1 December 2016 16:18 (two months ago) Permalink

(top 50 actually)

xp :)

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 1 December 2016 16:19 (two months ago) Permalink

There's an 8-song EP in the Frank album that would be incredible. The first and last songs on the album are very bad.

I know hoes that know Ali Farka Toure (voodoo chili), Thursday, 1 December 2016 16:22 (two months ago) Permalink

xp OK now that's my kinda list

sleeve, Thursday, 1 December 2016 16:22 (two months ago) Permalink

interesting that the katie dey album made stereogum's top 20, it was quite nice but don't expect it will show up anywhere else at all

a fair bit of Blonde grew on me but it still feels too fragmented overall. the highs are great (a solid 8 track EP sounds about right) but a lot of it just doesn't quite work which is really frustrating.

ufo, Thursday, 1 December 2016 16:31 (two months ago) Permalink

lots to dig into on the Norman Records list, just hope it isn't mostly boring piffle

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Thursday, 1 December 2016 16:32 (two months ago) Permalink

i love the katie dey record

imagine if people gave other records as much of a chance to grow as they give blond/e! must be nice to have a rep as a ~genius~

maura, Thursday, 1 December 2016 16:42 (two months ago) Permalink

I dunno, that's fair, but he took advantage of the benefit of the doubt to make a unique album that most artists couldn't have gotten away with. I can't fault him for that

Evan R, Thursday, 1 December 2016 16:56 (two months ago) Permalink

I realize there's a chance blond/e could grow on me and open up if I spent time with it, but I haven't felt the need or desire to go back to it. *shrug*

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 1 December 2016 17:03 (two months ago) Permalink

I already felt Channel Orange was a bluff so I gave Blond/e very few chances. Love nostalgiaultra.

gospodin simmel, Thursday, 1 December 2016 17:14 (two months ago) Permalink

definitely lots of good stuff on the Norman Records list

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Thursday, 1 December 2016 17:18 (two months ago) Permalink

good write-ups too

can't say I know half the albums

niels, Thursday, 1 December 2016 20:35 (two months ago) Permalink

listened to that Western Skies Motel album off the Norman Records list, held my attention more than I thought it would based on the description, really nice album.

kruezer2, Thursday, 1 December 2016 21:13 (two months ago) Permalink

That Western Skies Motel album on the Norman list is gorgeous. I think they're Danish, but they sound like the uncanny, backwoods stuff of Bruce Langhorne or Scott Tuma. The C. Diab is lovely, too.

Sunn O))) Brother Where Art Thou? (Chinaski), Thursday, 1 December 2016 21:18 (two months ago) Permalink

Xpost

Sunn O))) Brother Where Art Thou? (Chinaski), Thursday, 1 December 2016 21:20 (two months ago) Permalink

reminded me a bit of koen holtkamp/mountains, which is always a good thing

Rae Kwoniff (NickB), Thursday, 1 December 2016 21:22 (two months ago) Permalink

I've heard half of those Norman Records list... some of them are really good and glad they're giving deserved attention to some ignored records but there's also some boring ones in there. At any rate these sort of 'non-zeigeist' lists are always better than the consensus ones. Yeah we all love Lemonade but I prefer finding out about records I might have overlooked instead of the ones we've talked about all year.

No longer active (Moka), Thursday, 1 December 2016 21:29 (two months ago) Permalink

lmao frank ocean is some fresh bollocks

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Thursday, 1 December 2016 21:50 (two months ago) Permalink

except 'nights' maybe

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Thursday, 1 December 2016 21:57 (two months ago) Permalink

I also do not get the Frank Ocean one :/ It's not particularly bad and there's a couple of songs that I liked but it doesn't feel like it should stand proudly above the rest of any of the other 'big' albums released this year.

Moka, Thursday, 1 December 2016 22:33 (two months ago) Permalink

i don't much like the argument 'it's not bad, just a bit dull and mediocre' - dull and mediocre is literally the worst music except idk skrewdriver (which is p dull and mediocre, musically speaking, anyway)

fortunately there's so much other great stuff

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Thursday, 1 December 2016 22:38 (two months ago) Permalink

Gorilla vs Bear http://www.gorillavsbear.net/gorilla-vs-bears-albums-of-2016/

01 A TRIBE CALLED QUEST | We Got It From Here…Thank You 4 Your Service
02 JESSY LANZA | Oh No
03 KEDR LIVANSKIY | January Sun
04 KAYTRANADA | 99.9%
05 RADIOHEAD | A Moon Shaped Pool
06 FRANK OCEAN | Blonde
07 DIANA | Familiar Touch
08 KORNÉL KOVÁCS | The Bells
09 BURIAL | Young Death / Nightmarket
10 BEYONCÉ | Lemonade
11 WEYES BLOOD | Front Row Seat to Earth
12 KYLE DIXON & MICHAEL STEIN | Stranger Things Vol. 1 + 2
13 KENDRICK LAMAR | untitled unmastered.
14 YUMI ZOUMA | Yoncalla
15 VARIOUS | Sky Girl (Compiled by Julien Dechery + DJ Sundae)
16 FEAR OF MEN | Fall Forever
17 CROSS RECORD | Wabi-Sabi
18 ANDY SHAUF | The Party
19 S U R V I V E | RR7349
20 DANNY BROWN | Atrocity Exhibition
21 NEGATIVE GEMINI | Body Work
22 HOOPS | HOOPS + tapes #1-3
23 VESUVIO SOLO | Don’t Leave Me in the Dark
24 CARLA DAL FORNO | You Know What It’s Like
25 CLINT MANSELL | San Junipero OST (Black Mirror)
26 KADHJA BONET | The Visitor
27 NICOLAS JAAR | Sirens
28 TROLLER | Graphic
29 KERO KERO BONITO | Bonito Generation
30 WHITNEY | Light Upon the Lake
31 LEON VYNEHALL | Rojus
32 NXWORRIES | Yes Lawd!
33 ANGEL OLSEN | My Woman
34 POSTILJONEN | Reverie
35 EQUIKNOXX – Bird Power Sound
36 MARIA USBECK – Amparo
37 JAPANESE BREAKFAST – Psychopomp
38 KAITLYN AURELIA SMITH – Ears
39 DREAMBOAT – Dreamboat
40 NV – Binasu
41 LIZ – Cross Your Heart
42 DJDS – Stand Up and Speak
43 CARLY RAE JEPSEN – E•MO•TION Side B
44 CFCF – On Vacation
45 STILL CORNERS – Dead Blue
46 CASEY MECIJA – Psychic Materials
47 PURO INSTINCT – Autodrama
48 MERELY – Uncanny Valley
49 KATIE GATELY – Color
50 MARISSA NADLER – Strangers
51 WHITE DENIM – Stiff
52 PARTS – Parts
53 MOOD HUT – Disco Mantras
54 BOY HARSHER – Yr Body Is Nothing
55 AMBER ARCADES – Fading Lines
56 HINDS – Leave Me Alone
57 NITE JEWEL – Liquid Cool
58 ARIANA GRANDE – Dangerous Woman
59 CASS MCCOMBS – Mangy Love
60 JULIANNA BARWICK – Will

art baengels (monotony), Thursday, 1 December 2016 22:41 (two months ago) Permalink

listening to the upper reaches of the norman records list. unfortunately it is nigh all insipid rubbish as feared

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Thursday, 1 December 2016 23:00 (two months ago) Permalink

The Burial 12" that came out day before yesterday at 9, above Beyoncé at 10 on GvsB is sheer challops.

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 1 December 2016 23:29 (two months ago) Permalink

That Jessy Lanza is an impressive find; really enjoying this one

Evan R, Thursday, 1 December 2016 23:33 (two months ago) Permalink

We Got it From Here is probably the album of the year but people let me tell you, it really frosts my ass that my beloved Nice as Fuck record isn't getting the acclaim it deserves.

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 1 December 2016 23:36 (two months ago) Permalink

I'm sad and a little surprised that Katie Dey record didn't take off, everyone I've played it for has become an insta-fan, def my #1 of the year

fgti, Thursday, 1 December 2016 23:55 (two months ago) Permalink

Good for Chris GvB putting that one at the top!

Moka, Friday, 2 December 2016 00:01 (two months ago) Permalink

Actually that GvB list is pretty much otm. Missing ones from that list that I'd add and it would be pretty much my kind of list: Noname, Cavern of antimatter, Anna Homler, Moderat, Xenia Rubinos, KING... overall it's a pretty good top 10. I'd just move Frank Ocean and that Burial to the bottom of the list.

Moka, Friday, 2 December 2016 01:57 (two months ago) Permalink

Trolled is pretty great.

¶ (DJP), Friday, 2 December 2016 03:20 (two months ago) Permalink

Dammit, Troller

¶ (DJP), Friday, 2 December 2016 03:20 (two months ago) Permalink

I thought the Jessy Lanza record was a big disappointment

Number None, Friday, 2 December 2016 07:44 (two months ago) Permalink

cool to see that sky girl comp on the gorillavsbear list, got a lot of play from me this year

just sayin, Friday, 2 December 2016 08:14 (two months ago) Permalink

Ah yes Jessy Lanza would also be way lower in my list. Not my cup of tea but I understand why some people would rave about it. I also understand why that same people will forget completely about it in three months... and in 2019 when they're making their top albums of the 10's lists it wont make their top 100.

Moka, Friday, 2 December 2016 08:44 (two months ago) Permalink

Hey remember those mid-00's lists!? People thought Sigur Ros and Interpol were really cool back then.

Moka, Friday, 2 December 2016 08:52 (two months ago) Permalink

End of the 00's they were sort of ashamed to add them to their end of decade lists. Who will run that same fate come 2019? Frank Ocean? Lana del Rey? Meat Loaf?

Moka, Friday, 2 December 2016 08:55 (two months ago) Permalink

"Braver than we are" is the sleeping giant of 2016

Moka, Friday, 2 December 2016 08:58 (two months ago) Permalink

Had no idea there was a new Vesuvio Solo album out. Anyone here heard it?

groovypanda, Friday, 2 December 2016 12:41 (two months ago) Permalink

Norman's near misses may be better than their main list: https://www.normanrecords.com/features/albums-of-the-year-2016?show=bubblers

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 2 December 2016 14:13 (two months ago) Permalink

They didn't include the meat loaf album :(

Moka, Friday, 2 December 2016 14:16 (two months ago) Permalink

But you're not kidding that list is even better than the real one.

Moka, Friday, 2 December 2016 14:16 (two months ago) Permalink

Per the aggregator, Angel Olsen has taken over the #6 spot, and closing in on Nick Cave. Solange close behind, Anderson .Paak, Chance The Rapper, and A Tribe Called Quest is now #10.

http://www.albumoftheyear.org/list/summary/2016/

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 2 December 2016 14:18 (two months ago) Permalink

Wouldn't say the second Norman list is 'better' than the top 50, but they both sure make for some top cherry picking.

Can't recommend the Bracken record strong enough, for all you Hood fans out there.

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 2 December 2016 14:25 (two months ago) Permalink

if you move the Radiohead and Nick Cave 10 spots and replace with maybe mitski and weyes blood that is the p4k top ten of this year.

Moka, Friday, 2 December 2016 14:26 (two months ago) Permalink

Xpost

Moka, Friday, 2 December 2016 14:26 (two months ago) Permalink

That Western Skies Motel album on the Norman list is gorgeous. I think they're Danish, but they sound like the uncanny, backwoods stuff of Bruce Langhorne or Scott Tuma. The C. Diab is lovely, too.

― Sunn O))) Brother Where Art Thou? (Chinaski), Thursday, December 1, 2016 4:18 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I will have to check out Langhorne and Tuma if they are of the same ilk. Relistened to Settlers again and it really is gorgeous, love the endings of Transformation and Whirl when they turn into oddly uplifting funeral dirges.

kruezer2, Friday, 2 December 2016 14:58 (two months ago) Permalink

Is anyone on ILM a fan of Car Seat Headrest? I have some friends who love it and I just don't get the EOY praise it's getting. Seems like run of the mill indie rock to me and boring one at that.

― No longer active (Moka), Wednesday, November 30, 2016 7:38 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Combo of its general inoffensiveness, the power of promotion and a backstory hook that's easy to write about. I know many music writers who pay absolutely no attention to current "indie rock" but who love Car Seat Headrest and similar critic-approved groups like Parquet Courts. Like how a critical mass of "this is okay I guess" often averages out into year-end accolades, with a bit of "this is the only record of this type I need to listen to" thrown in.

charlie brown from outta town (GM), Friday, 2 December 2016 17:07 (two months ago) Permalink

otm about "easy to write about." I can't help but compare it to the Pinegrove record, which is so much better but also so much more difficult to articulate the merits of

Evan R, Friday, 2 December 2016 17:28 (two months ago) Permalink

I didn't know CSH had a backstory hook. It's nice when the designers insert one of those into the code, like "you grew up in a cult" or something.

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Friday, 2 December 2016 17:35 (two months ago) Permalink

the reason is that most critics have deeply jejune taste and can be safely disregarded

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Friday, 2 December 2016 17:42 (two months ago) Permalink

much like most people

¶ (DJP), Friday, 2 December 2016 18:32 (two months ago) Permalink

A lot of very average and a few truly terrible records in this "EP"s list:

http://www.stereogum.com/1913129/25-great-eps-from-2016/franchises/2016-in-review/

My top 20 EPs:

Lindstrøm - Wingdings
Anna Wise - The Feminine: Act 1
Cavern of Anti-Matter - I’m the unknown
Kiiara - low kii savage
Hologram Teen - Marsangst
Mr. Fingers - Outer Acid
Kyary Pamyu Pamyu - Sai & Co
Semi-Toned - Sing Theory
Deerful - Home
The Orb - Alpine
Bridgit Mendler - Nemesis
Pye Corner Audio / Dalhous - Run For The Shadows
Izzie Gibbs - Jutsu
Iko Chérie - The Dream Covers
Pional - When Love Hurts
Pussy Riot - xxx
Keke Palmer - Lauren
Natalie Beredze - Love Is Winning
Hot 8 Brass Band - Can’t Nobody Get Down
Aquaserge - Guerre

Jeff W, Friday, 2 December 2016 19:07 (two months ago) Permalink

Hannah Peel not getting nearly enough love for her album is something of great concern.

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 2 December 2016 22:20 (two months ago) Permalink

RE: Katie Dey, I bought the album after Owen Pallett said it was the best album of the last five years. I wouldn't go that far, though "Fear O the Light" makes a pretty strong case.

geoffreyess, Saturday, 3 December 2016 02:12 (two months ago) Permalink

Louder Than War

40 The Low Anthem - Eyeland
39 The Fall - Wise Ol' Man
38 Yeasayer - Amen & Goodbye
37 Hooton Tennis Club - Big Box Of Chocolates
36 Asylums - Killer Brain Waves
35 Bob Mould - Patch The Sky
34 Warpaint - Heads Up
33 Biffy Clyro - Ellipsis
32 Suede - Night Thoughts
31 Mogwai - Atomic
30 Doomsquad - Total Time
29 PJ Harvey - The Hope Six Demolition Project
28 The Wonder Stuff - Goes Around The Sun
27 Goat - Requiem
26 Ruts DC - Music Must Destroy
25 New Model Army - Winter
24 Big Jesus - Oneiric
23 Pixies - Head Carrier
22 Purson - Desire's Magic Theatre
21 Deftones - Gore
20 Iggy Pop - Post Pop Depression
19 Garbage - STrange Little Birds
18 Owen - The King Of Whys
17 Dinosaur Jr - Give A Glimpse Of What Yer Not
16 Swans - The Glowing Man
15 The Coral - Distance INbetween
14 Field Music - Commontime
13 The Virginmarys - Divides
12 Minor Victories - Minor Victories
11 Deap Vally - Femejism
10 Slaves - Take Control
09 Nothing - Tired Of Tomorrow
08 Primal Scream - Chaosmosis
07 Let's Eat Grandma - I, Gemini
06 Radiohead - A Moon Shaped Pool
05 Blossoms - Blossoms
04 Melvins - Basses Loaded
03 David Bowie - Blackstar
02 Savages - Adore Life
01 Nick Cave And The Bad Seeds - Skeleton Tree

Fastnbulbous, Sunday, 4 December 2016 02:08 (two months ago) Permalink

real music at last

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Sunday, 4 December 2016 02:21 (two months ago) Permalink

There was a new Dinosaur Jr album?

Siegbran, Sunday, 4 December 2016 08:17 (two months ago) Permalink

ditto Garbage? ditto Pixies? ditto Radiohead?

Jeff W, Sunday, 4 December 2016 12:35 (two months ago) Permalink

louder than WAR

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Sunday, 4 December 2016 12:38 (two months ago) Permalink

RE: Katie Dey, I bought the album after Owen Pallett said it was the best album of the last five years. I wouldn't go that far, though "Fear O the Light" makes a pretty strong case.

― geoffreyess, Friday, December 2, 2016 9:12 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

That song sounds like a strange cover of Tobin Sprout buried in effects

Evan, Sunday, 4 December 2016 14:29 (two months ago) Permalink

"fear o the light" is such a good song

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Sunday, 4 December 2016 16:38 (two months ago) Permalink

08 KORNÉL KOVÁCS | The Bells

This is terrific, happy to see it place somewhere. He used to post to ILM FWIW.

Matt DC, Sunday, 4 December 2016 17:07 (two months ago) Permalink

That Dinosaur Jr album is actually great as well and I've never been able to get into them in the past.

Matt DC, Sunday, 4 December 2016 17:08 (two months ago) Permalink

yeah Mascis has been on a roll lately

sleeve, Sunday, 4 December 2016 17:18 (two months ago) Permalink

co-sign on the Kornel Kovacs, it's one of the best dance albums of recent years. It's really fun and loaded with personality and hooks - and compared to something like the Todd Terje album, there's a sense of genuine playfulness that avoids contrived wackiness and throwaway goofiness. I didn't realise he was a former poster.

boxedjoy, Sunday, 4 December 2016 19:01 (two months ago) Permalink

There was a Fall album this year?!

sushi and the banh mis (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 4 December 2016 21:15 (two months ago) Permalink

ep

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Sunday, 4 December 2016 21:16 (two months ago) Permalink

Oh just an EP (also sorry for breaking format)

Lol xp

sushi and the banh mis (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 4 December 2016 21:16 (two months ago) Permalink

"I've never been able to get into Dinosaur Jr. in the past"

I've never been able to get into Husker Du in the past."

I've never been able to get into the Replacements in the past."

I've never been able to get into Sonic Youth in the past."

I've never been able to get into the Beatles in the past."

I've never been able to get into Elvis in the past."

I've never been able to get into breathing an atmosphere that contains O2 in the past...."

dlp9001, Sunday, 4 December 2016 21:22 (two months ago) Permalink

Just saw someone I (still) regard as a friend describe the new Rolling Stones album as their best since Some Girls.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Sunday, 4 December 2016 21:32 (two months ago) Permalink

i might not go that far, but definitely their best since "voodoo lounge"

xiphoid beetlebum (rushomancy), Sunday, 4 December 2016 21:50 (two months ago) Permalink

That's cool DLP - I'm pretty sure I already have enough illustrations of how American indie fans consider their taste the centre of the musical universe.

Matt DC, Sunday, 4 December 2016 22:16 (two months ago) Permalink

"I've never been able to get into Dinosaur Jr. in the past"

I've never been able to get into Husker Du in the past."

I've never been able to get into the Replacements in the past."

I've never been able to get into Sonic Youth in the past."

I've never been able to get into the Beatles in the past."

I've never been able to get into Elvis in the past."

I've never been able to get into breathing an atmosphere that contains O2 in the past...."

― dlp9001, zondag 4 december 2016 22:22 (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^ fp'd you for this tbh. What point are you even trying to make?

Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 4 December 2016 22:32 (two months ago) Permalink

not sure why that post warranted an FP? Its hardly offensive

Cosmic Slop, Sunday, 4 December 2016 22:42 (two months ago) Permalink

I'd complain about all these old bands doing so well in these lists if the two best albums I'd heard recently weren't by ATAQ and Yello...

nashwan, Sunday, 4 December 2016 22:45 (two months ago) Permalink

ATAQ ATCQ

nashwan, Sunday, 4 December 2016 22:46 (two months ago) Permalink

fp'ing a poster for an incomprehensible post really is a new low.. especially when i somehow haven't yet been flagged off this board

a but (brimstead), Sunday, 4 December 2016 22:47 (two months ago) Permalink

Wait there's a new Yello album?!?

sleeve, Sunday, 4 December 2016 22:48 (two months ago) Permalink

I know, right? Let's not get distracted, people.

¶ (DJP), Sunday, 4 December 2016 23:10 (two months ago) Permalink

Ugh, you people do not get what "fp'd you for this" means do you? It doesn't mean I actually fp'd. #societyisinthegutteretc

Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 4 December 2016 23:34 (two months ago) Permalink

OT but I always though Cosmic Slop was Algerian Goalkeeper.

Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 4 December 2016 23:36 (two months ago) Permalink

Let's just get back to Yello, shall we.

dlp9001, Sunday, 4 December 2016 23:38 (two months ago) Permalink

Listening to it now. A++ so far.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 4 December 2016 23:39 (two months ago) Permalink

OT but I always though Cosmic Slop was Algerian Goalkeeper.

You were right.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 4 December 2016 23:39 (two months ago) Permalink

damn, cover blown after all this time

Cosmic Slop, Sunday, 4 December 2016 23:40 (two months ago) Permalink

I reckon I'd like some of the Norman Records list but the descriptions are so annoying and useless as a quick reference point that I might not be able to wade through it.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Monday, 5 December 2016 11:58 (two months ago) Permalink

Picadilly has some good lists up - reissues, compilations, etc.

boxedjoy, Monday, 5 December 2016 13:41 (two months ago) Permalink

xp oren ambarchi 'hubris' is the jammy jam if you've not heard it already

r|t|c, Monday, 5 December 2016 14:41 (two months ago) Permalink

NPR list my favorite so far

Mordy, Monday, 5 December 2016 18:01 (two months ago) Permalink

derogatis list p terrible but Teen at #2 is very cool, more ppl need to hear that

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Monday, 5 December 2016 18:01 (two months ago) Permalink

what this says about my social identity i barely want to speculate but i guess i should start buying albums at starbucks counters

incidentally, i set my radio to the NPR classical/jazz station this week bc normal NPR news has been too depressing and i'm going thru an anxiety episode

Mordy, Monday, 5 December 2016 18:02 (two months ago) Permalink

from backseatmafia:

“In ‘Helios Rising’ Moths and Locusts have produced an album that shares much of the eclectic endeavour of it’s predecessor, but seem to have found a greater depth and breadth to their sound. This is an album that deserves your full attention since it is crammed full of ideas and influences all of which are not so much put together as crafted into a set of songs that will continue to grow with every play. I am convinced that this will be an album that I will be listening to for years to come and that I have thus far only touched the surface of its sonic depth.”

wow, i kind of feel like posting this to "worst music writing" thread. does this paragraph contain anything? anything at all?

xiphoid beetlebum (rushomancy), Monday, 5 December 2016 18:21 (two months ago) Permalink

Cool to see a Danish composer at six on the NPR list. Should probably listen to it, then.

Frederik B, Monday, 5 December 2016 18:29 (two months ago) Permalink

fuck i love this kornél kovács record

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 01:54 (two months ago) Permalink

Ooh, me too!

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 02:44 (two months ago) Permalink

Complex's list http://ca.complex.com/music/2016/12/best-albums-of-2016/

I haven't gotten around to hearing either record yet but seeing Lil Yachty three spots above Bowie makes me smile because it has the potential to piss off so many people

pumped up kicks and levels on repeat all night (2011nostalgia), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 03:08 (two months ago) Permalink

Like me, because Lil Yachty sucks.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 04:19 (two months ago) Permalink

Annie Mac's 12 albums of the year has a few ilxor faves on:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/1z0ybyqmmvhgG1PW9Gk8pDb/the-12-best-albums-of-2016-as-picked-by-annie-mac

groovypanda, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 08:58 (two months ago) Permalink

From the album artwork, featuring a watercolor illustration of a damp, cloudy autumn day, you know James Blake’s The Colour in Anything is strapping you in for a ride to Feelzville

boxedjoy, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 10:03 (two months ago) Permalink

The Quietus

nate woolls, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 10:34 (two months ago) Permalink

For easy reference:

The Quietus Albums Of The Year 2016

1. Årabrot - The Gospel
2. Solange - A Seat At The Table
3. Innercity Ensemble - III
4. Jessy Lanza - Oh No No No
5. Shirley Collins - Lodestar
6. Fat White Family - Songs For Our Mothers
7. David Bowie - Blackstar
8. Ian William Craig - Centres
9. D∆WN - Redemption
10. Jenny Hval - blood bitch
11. Frank Ocean - Blonde
12. Laura Cannell - Simultaneous Flight Movement
13. Matmos - Ultimate Care II
14. Klara Lewis - Too
15. Skepta - Konnichiwa
16. The Caretaker - Everywhere At The End Of Time
17. Oranssi Pazuzu - Värähtelijä
18. Shackleton - Devotional Songs
19. Peder Mannerfelt - Controlling Body
20. Marissa Nadler - Strangers
21. Sote - Hardcore Sounds From Tehran
22. Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds - Skeleton Tree
23. Katie Gately - Color
24. Sex Swing - Sex Swing
25. Brian Eno - The Ship
26. King - We Are King
27. GNOD - Mirror
28. Wolfgang Buttress & Bees - Be One
29. Jute Gyte - Perdurance
30. Huerco S - For Those Of You Who Have Never (And Also Those Who Have)
31. Blood Orange - Freetown Sound
32. The Stargazer’s Assistant - Remoteness Of Light
33. A Tribe Called Quest - We Got It From Here... Thank You 4 Your Service
34. Julianna Barwick - Will
35. Radiohead - A Moon Shaped Pool
36. Suede - Night Thoughts
37. Jambinai - A Hermitage
38. Convextion - 2845
39. Kanye West - The Life Of Pablo
40. Kemper Norton - Toll
41. Puce Mary - The Spiral
42. Black Merlin - Hipnotik Tradisi
43. Daniel Patrick Quinn - I, Sun
44. Lord Tang - Butterflies
45. Underworld - Barbara Barbara, We Face A Shining Future
46. Kaitlyn Aurelia Smith & Suzanne Ciani - Sunergy
47. Idris Ackamoor & The Pyramids - We Be All Africans
48. Equiknoxx - Bird Sound Power
49. Anna Meredith - Varmints
50. Factory Floor - 25 25
51. Tim Hecker - Love Streams
52. Bully Fae - Defy A Thing To Be
53. Beyoncé - Lemonade
54. Kano - Made In The Manor
55. Bruxa Maria - Human Condition
56. Grumbling Fur - Furfour
57. Leonard Cohen - You Want It Darker
58. Skee Mask - Shred
59. Oren Ambarchi - Hubris
60. The Comet Is Coming - Channel The Spirits
61. Babyfather - BBF Hosted By DJ Escrow
62. The Body - No One Deserves Happiness
63. G.H. - Housebound Demigod
64. Darren Hayman - Thankful Villages Vol. 1
65. Laniakea - A Pot Of Powdered Nettles
66. Waclaw Zimpel - Lines
67. Roly Porter - Third Law
68. Chance The Rapper - Colouring Book
69. Atlantikwall - Atlantikwall
70. SHXCXCHCXSH - SsSsSsSsSsSsSsSsSsSsSsSsSsSsSs
71. Marie Davidson - Adieux Au Dancefloor
72. Pattern Man - Pattern Man
73. Julien Marchal - II
74. Billy Bao - The Lagos Sessions
75. Gyda Valtysdottir - Epicycle
76. Noura Mint Seymali - Arbina
77. Mica Levi & Oliver Coates - Remain Calm
78. Hen Ogledd - Bronze
79. Kassem Mosse - Disclosure
80. Kristoffer Lo - The Black Meat
81. Hannah Peel - Awake But Always Dreaming
82. Sam Shalabi - Isis And Osiris
83. Pangaea - In Drum Play
84. Ghold - Pyr
85. FIS - From Patterns To Details
86. Carla Dal Forno - You Know What It's Like
87. Swans - Glowing Man
88. Bon Iver - 22, A Million
89. Omar-S - The Best
90. Knifeworld - Bottled Out Of Eden
91. Gnaw Their Tongues - Hymns For The Broken, Swollen And Silent
92. John Cale - M:Fans
93. The Invisible - Patience
94. Wire - Nocturnal Koreans
95. Jackie Lynn - Jackie Lynn
96. The Dwarfs Of East Agouza - Bes
97. Cat’s Eyes - Treasure House
98. Ahrkh Wagner - Ahrkh Wagner
99. Melt Yourself Down - Last Evenings On Earth
100. Stein Urheim - Strandebarm

ArchCarrier, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 11:38 (two months ago) Permalink

that's cool and contains loads of stuff i either love or have got to listen to (not least solange). however their #1 is utterly baffling. yeah i've tried.

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 11:45 (two months ago) Permalink

70. SHXCXCHCXSH - SsSsSsSsSsSsSsSsSsSsSsSsSsSsSs

oh come ON

xiphoid beetlebum (rushomancy), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 12:01 (two months ago) Permalink

cool album, cool title

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 12:03 (two months ago) Permalink

Fuck a Shucksuckchucksh

nashwan, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 12:04 (two months ago) Permalink

Fat White Family in TheQ's top ten is sort of like ... did someone lose a bet or something?

calzino, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 12:12 (two months ago) Permalink

or maybe it is just typical TQ. But jeez, spare me ...

calzino, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 12:14 (two months ago) Permalink

I generally like the Quietus but some of the music they go absolutely apeshit for I find pretty poor - I don't get what's so great about Arabrot either but they're at least better than fucking Fat White Family.

At least their token black metal album's interesting though.

ultros ultros-ghali, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 12:15 (two months ago) Permalink

both of their token black metal albums are fairly good ;)

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 12:16 (two months ago) Permalink

xps the track listing on SsSsSsSsSsSsSsSsSsSsSsSsSsSsSs is a delight too :)

nxd, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 12:33 (two months ago) Permalink

Our three token black metal albums are all very good if you ask me.

Doran, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 12:35 (two months ago) Permalink

xxp I was talking about JG actually I missed Oranssi Pazuzu which is higher than I would've expected!

(I was being tongue in cheek calling them token btw)

ultros ultros-ghali, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 12:40 (two months ago) Permalink

gnaw their tongues is p good too, am guessing that's the third

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 13:00 (two months ago) Permalink

oh it's a new gnaw their tongues! oh em gee etc

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 13:01 (two months ago) Permalink

Nice to see an album released by The Quietus Phonographic Corporation made it to #24 on their year-end list.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 14:18 (two months ago) Permalink

8. Ian William Craig - Centres

I've been trying this one off and on since it came out but it's just not connecting. Loved his first two. I guess I'm put off by the vocals being higher in the mix this time around.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 14:29 (two months ago) Permalink

Nice to see an album released by The Quietus Phonographic Corporation made it to #24 on their year-end list.

― Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱)

they're obviously considering branching out into gaming journalism

xiphoid beetlebum (rushomancy), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 14:42 (two months ago) Permalink

28. Wolfgang Buttress & Bees - Be One

by the way this is not some kind of "voices green and purple" thing, this is LITERALLY BEES

xiphoid beetlebum (rushomancy), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 14:44 (two months ago) Permalink

the beece the beece the beece the beece rawr rawr rawr rawr

Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 14:53 (two months ago) Permalink

I keep meaning to listen to that bee thing. There was a liveish surround sound performance of it in the Glade at Glastonbury this year but it was shitting down at the time and I wasn't really in the mood.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 14:56 (two months ago) Permalink

8. Ian William Craig - Centres

I've been trying this one off and on since it came out but it's just not connecting. Loved his first two. I guess I'm put off by the vocals being higher in the mix this time around.

― sctttnnnt (pgwp), dinsdag 6 december 2016 15:29 (forty-four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Same here, the vocals are a complete turn-off for me. Real shame.

xp lol Whiney

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 15:14 (two months ago) Permalink

ctrl+f we are king

RIP music criticism

Ballistic: ILX vs. Sever (Eric H.), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 15:18 (two months ago) Permalink

think that's bad try ctrl+f britney

nashwan, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 15:21 (two months ago) Permalink

76. Noura Mint Seymali - Arbina

From Quietus list and on NPR one too. Seymali and her rockin guitarist husband and band are edging out Bombino for the North African desert music slot on a few lists.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 15:25 (two months ago) Permalink

King was just on the Quietus list! xp

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 15:26 (two months ago) Permalink

king's exclusion from the decibel list was a real head-scratcher

xiphoid beetlebum (rushomancy), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 15:33 (two months ago) Permalink

lol

Cosmic Slop, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 15:50 (two months ago) Permalink

I didn't think KING existed outside of ILM so to see them on two lists so far is kind of amazing

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 16:09 (two months ago) Permalink

they also got a grammy nomination

maura, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 16:15 (two months ago) Permalink

I think King are probably on the Quietus list BECAUSE of the ILM overlap?

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 16:25 (two months ago) Permalink

racist much

Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 16:39 (two months ago) Permalink

go to hell

they're inside my own personal top ten THANKS TO ILX. the quietus is a british magazine whose writers READ ILX. it's not racist to draw the connection for fuck's sake

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 16:41 (two months ago) Permalink

Yeah man, remember when Treeship got them booked on Conan?

Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 16:44 (two months ago) Permalink

lol

¶ (DJP), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 16:45 (two months ago) Permalink

;_;

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 16:45 (two months ago) Permalink

never understood whiney's long running personal beef with the quietus

Cosmic Slop, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 16:47 (two months ago) Permalink

this appears to have nothing to do with The Quietus and everything to do with assuming no one outside of ILX has ever heard of King

¶ (DJP), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 16:49 (two months ago) Permalink

yeah, my beef was with imago

Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 16:49 (two months ago) Permalink

you really are KING of the specious racism accusation

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 16:52 (two months ago) Permalink

^^ taking home the gold

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 16:54 (two months ago) Permalink

Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 16:58 (two months ago) Permalink

Um anyway

The USA Today list is shockingly emo-crew friendly.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 16:58 (two months ago) Permalink

The USA Today list is shockingly emo-crew friendly.

rosenstock deserved to be no. 1 on at least one list

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 17:10 (two months ago) Permalink

Is there a link for the USA Today?

Kinda surprised how underrepresented the year's big prestige emo albums are on a lot of these lists. But that may just be a reflection of the fact that 2016 was a strong year for a lot of music

Evan R, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 17:17 (two months ago) Permalink

I'm excited that he's getting so much exposure but also I am concerned about his bound-to-rise anxiety levels lol xp

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 17:17 (two months ago) Permalink

Why the fuck are the Fat White Family on any of these lists? They're awful. I played with them once and as soon as they got there they asked the promoter where to score crack and then bounced w/o a soundcheck. Their music was horrible.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 17:20 (two months ago) Permalink

That sounds kind of like the essence of 2016 to me.

¶ (DJP), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 17:22 (two months ago) Permalink

fat white family are indeed terrible

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 17:24 (two months ago) Permalink

Fat White Family
Fat White Family are an English rock band, formed 2011 in Peckham, South London.

Quick facts: Fat White Family, Background information ...
Lead guitarist Saul Adamczewski was previously the frontman of indie-pop band The Metros, which also featured the band's original bass player, Joseph Pancucci-Simpson.

The band, fronted by Southampton born[1] and Huddersfield raised Lias Kaci Saoudi[2] released their debut album Champagne Holocaust in 2013. Their second album Songs for our Mothers was released in 2016.[3][4]

In early 2014 the band launched a PledgeMusic campaign to fund their show at South by South West festival, with a subsequent US tour. [5] Rewards for backers include a special massage from any member of the group, dinner for two with the fat white family, drum lessons and a "Primal scream workshop" with Lias Soudi.[6]

Discography
Albums
Champagne Holocaust (2013)
Songs for Our Mothers (2016)
EPs
Crippled B-Sides And Inconsequential Rarities (2014) (Released to supporters of the FWF PledgeMusic fundraiser)
Singles
Special Ape (2013)
Cream of the Young (2013)
Heaven On Earth (2013)
Touch the Leather (2014)
I Am Mark E Smith (2014)
Whitest Boy On The Beach (2016)
Breaking Into Aldi (2016)

banfred bann (wins), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 17:25 (two months ago) Permalink

They definitely play up the gobby British rock arseholes thing as part of their 'act', but the point of their music hasn't reached me yet either

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 17:26 (two months ago) Permalink

ROCK IS BACK MATES

Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 17:36 (two months ago) Permalink

anglophobic much

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 17:37 (two months ago) Permalink

Union Jackoff

Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 17:38 (two months ago) Permalink

Main guy nearly had a heart attack tripping on mushrooms and cracked out that night, i'm honestly surprised they're still alive and able to make a record at all.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 17:39 (two months ago) Permalink

Main guy returns as out and proud rock arsehole Johnny Rocket in the forthcoming Moonlandingz LP, itself a spin-off of The Eccentronic Research Council's excellent album last year. I'm sure you're all on tenterhooks

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 17:43 (two months ago) Permalink

Rock band takes copious amounts of drugs shocker.

Position Position, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 17:52 (two months ago) Permalink

Rewards for backers include a special massage from any member of the group, dinner for two with the fat white family, drum lessons and a "Primal scream workshop" with Lias Soudi.

poll

¶ (DJP), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 17:54 (two months ago) Permalink

dinner for two with the fat white family

lack of capitalization indicates this is a trick

nomar, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 18:01 (two months ago) Permalink

I’m not sure whether he’s Hitler and I’m Goebbels, or he’s Goebbels and I’m Hitler… I’m definitely Tina Turner.

banfred bann (wins), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 18:01 (two months ago) Permalink

I'm assuming the special massage was to take place in Nevada to cover all legal bases.

¶ (DJP), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 18:02 (two months ago) Permalink

I don't really care about their substance abuse problems or their hilarious gobshite antics, I'm not a music journalist, the thing for me is the music and the swagger or lack of swagger

banfred bann (wins), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 18:05 (two months ago) Permalink

bandcamp's list isn't done but (probably due to obvious self-imposed limitation, at least in the top reaches) is quite good: https://daily.bandcamp.com/2016/12/06/the-best-albums-of-2016-80-61/

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 18:06 (two months ago) Permalink

fat white family at least had the sense to have dilly dally open for them earlier this year. i saw dilly dally (who ruled) and then bounced

maura, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 18:11 (two months ago) Permalink

also that usa today list is on... the sports blog? shout out to lucy dacus tho

maura, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 18:13 (two months ago) Permalink

lucy ducas was one of my pitchfork discoveries, helps that i always keep my eyes peeled for Brad Nelson reviews

nomar, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 18:14 (two months ago) Permalink

i love bandcamp so much of late, so much of my listening comes directly from there. am kind of surprised how much of the stuff on their list i already knew about/loved that i _didn't_ get to through bandcamp, though!

having said that:

"The thing about dark magic is that it really isn’t something to trifle with, not something you can achieve with a couple of crystals from Urban Outfitters, a Stevie Nicks album, a leather corset, a smudge stick and a change to your Twitter handle."

this is false and i have the photos to prove it.

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 18:55 (two months ago) Permalink

brad nelson is def ilx tastemaker of teh year

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 19:07 (two months ago) Permalink

tim's padawan breaks free ;)

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 19:09 (two months ago) Permalink

whats up with quietus's #1 Årabrot - The Gospel? track 3 almost sounds like 90s alternative grunge metal

just another (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 19:31 (two months ago) Permalink

Arabrot is a headscratch record... feels like a contrarian statement to have that one on 1 but hey the rest of the list is good and at last I see an indie-focused list without that painfully average Car Head Seatrest album.

Moka, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 19:41 (two months ago) Permalink

<3 Doran and the gang but this happened with Grumbling Fur a few years ago and appears to be based largely on friendship with the band in question. Which is probably fine, these bands often require a boost, although I've not liked either record myself.

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 19:45 (two months ago) Permalink

That Grumbling Fur album was great though.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 19:48 (two months ago) Permalink

*shrug*

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 19:53 (two months ago) Permalink

doran has been a fan of arabrot as long as I've known him so im not surprised he got the rest of the staff into them.

I got him into jute gyte

Cosmic Slop, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 20:11 (two months ago) Permalink

Lol

sushi and the banh mis (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 20:40 (two months ago) Permalink

I'm enjoying this SHXCXCXCHCXSH album. Good background music for work.

silverfish, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 20:57 (two months ago) Permalink

http://www.treblezine.com/32903-10-best-metal-albums-of-2016/

10. SubRosa – For This We Fought the Battle of Ages
09. The Body – No One Deserves Happiness
08. Neurosis – Fires Within Fires
07. Khemmis – Hunted
06. Anagnorisis – Peripeteia
05. Hammers of Misfortune – Dead Revolution
04. Palace of Worms – The Ladder
03. Inter Arma – Paradise Gallows
02. Baroness – Purple
01. Oranssi Pazuzu – Värähtelijä

Cosmic Slop, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 21:23 (two months ago) Permalink

Many xps

I couldn't get in to that Bees album. Think someone on the Spiritualized thread said something along the lines of it being the best thing Jason Pierce had been involved in and whilst it was nice enough, it was nothing that I particularly wanted to listen to repeatedly.

groovypanda, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 21:23 (two months ago) Permalink

http://www.treblezine.com/32802-10-best-jazz-albums-of-2016/

10. Idris Ackamoor and the Pyramids – We Be All Africans
09. Brain Tentacles – Brain Tentacles
08. Jack DeJohnette/Ravi Coltrane/Matthew Garrison - In Movement
07. Fire! – She Sleeps, She Sleeps
06. Vijay Iyer/Wadada Leo Smith – A Cosmic Rhythm with Each Stroke
05. LAM – LAM
04. Shabaka and the Ancestors - Wisdom of Elders
03. Dr. Lonnie Smith – Evolution
02. Tangents – Stateless
01. Yussef Kamaal – Black Focus

Cosmic Slop, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 21:24 (two months ago) Permalink

treblezine songs

100) Moses Sumney - Lonely World
99) Kamaiyah - How Does It Feel
98) Andy Stott - New Romantic
97) Neurosis - Reach
96) Young Thug - Wyclef Jean
95) James Blake feat. Bon Iver - I Need a Forest Fire
94) Inter Arma - The Paradise Gallows
93) American Football - Where Are We Now?
92) Amy O - Arrow
91) Lucy Dacus - I Don't Wanna Be Funny Anymore
90) The Weekend feat. Daft Punk - Starboy
89) Omni - Wire
88) Deftones - Doomed User
87) Joyce Manor - Last You Heard of Me
86) Jlin - Downtown
85) School of Seven Bells - Ablaze
84) Bat for Lashes - In God's House
83) Nicolas Jaar - Three Sides of Nazareth
82) Nap Eyes - Lion in Chains
81) Descendents - On Paper
80) Father John Misty - Real Love Baby
79) Esperanza Spalding - Earth to Heaven
78) Brand New - I Am a Nightmare
77) Massive Attack feat. Azekel - Ritual Spirit
76) Jessy Lanza - Never Enough
75) G.L.O.S.S. - We Live
74) PUP - Pine Point
73) Courtney Barnett - Three Packs a Day
72) Sturgill Simpson - Brace For Impact (Live a Little)
71) Savages - T.I.W.Y.G.
70) Kvelertak - Ondskapens Galakse
69) Diarrhea Planet - Bob Dylan's Grandma
68) Babyfather - Meditation (feat. Arca)
67) Death In Vegas - You Disco I Freak
66) Cymbals Eat Guitars - Wish
65) Charles Bradley - Ain't It a Sin
64) Kyle Dixon - Stranger Things
63) Kevin Gates - 2 Phones
62) Future feat. The Weeknd - Low Life
61) Death Grips - Eh
60) Big Ups - National Parks
59) case/lang/veirs - Best Kept Secret
58) Rihanna feat. SZA - Consideration
57) Underworld - I Exhale
56) Beach Slang - Atom Bomb
55) YG feat. Nipsey Hussle - FDT
54) Danny Brown - When It Rain
53) Erykah Badu - Hello
52) Heft - Japanese Breakfast
51) Kendrick Lamar - Untitled 07 | 2014 – 2016
50) Oranssi Pazuzu - Hypnotisoitu Viharukous
49) Angel Olsen - Intern
48) Car Seat Headrest - Vincent
47) Andorson.Paak feat. Schoolboy Q - Am I Wrong
46) Sunflower Bean - Easier Said
45) Glass Animals - Life Itself
44) Radiohead - Identikit
43) Blood Orange - Best to You
42) Animal Collective - FloriDada
41) Beyonce - Formation
40) White Lung - Hungry
39) Anna Meredith - Taken
38) Beyonce - All Night
37) Modern Baseball - Apple Cider, I Don't Mind
36) Drake feat. WizKid & Kyla - One Dance
35) Chance the Rapper - Blessings
34) The Avalanches feat. Camp Lo - Because I'm Me
33) DJ Shadow feat. Run the Jewels - Nobody Speak
32) Emma Ruth Rundle - Protection
31) Mothers - It Hurts Until It Doesn't
30) Leonard Cohen - You Want It Darker
29) Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds - Jesus Alone
28) Solange feat. Sampha - Don't Touch My Hair
27) Preoccupations - Anxiety
26) Bon Iver - 22 (OVER S∞∞N)
25) Blood Orange - Hands Up
24) Pinegrove - Old Friends
23) Kendrick Lamar - Untitled 03 | 05.28.2013
22) Frankie Cosmos - On the Lips
21) Solange - Cranes in the Sky
20) Radiohead - Burn the Witch
19) Chance the Rapper - Same Drugs
18) Frank Ocean - Ivy
17) Savages - The Answer
16) Car Seat Headrest - Fill in the Blank
15) ANOHNI - 4 Degrees
14) Frank Ocean - Nikes
13) Mitski - Your Best American Girl
12) Danny Brown feat. Kendrick Lamar, Earl Sweatshirt, Ab-Soul - Really Doe
11) Beyonce - Sorry
10) Baroness - Shock Me
9) Kanye West ft. Chance the Rapper, The-Dream, Kelly Price, and Kirk Franklin - Ultralight Beam
8) Chance the Rapper feat. Kanye West & Chicago Children's Choir - All We Got
7) Kanye West feat. Kendrick Lamar - No More Parties in LA
6) Radiohead - True Love Waits
5) Parquet Courts - Human Performancce
4) Angel Olsen - Shut Up Kiss Me
3) David Bowie - Lazarus
2) Car Seat Headrest - Drunk Drivers/Killers Whales
1) David Bowie - Black Star

Cosmic Slop, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 21:25 (two months ago) Permalink

I liked Black Star (the track) as much as anyone, but it was released in November 2015. Seems odd to put it at #1 this year when any other track from the LP was available.

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 21:36 (two months ago) Permalink

that is a horrendous list tbh

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 21:38 (two months ago) Permalink

cool that they like oranssi pazuzu though

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 21:41 (two months ago) Permalink

Recall last year the (arguably) best list was Cosmopolitan, (not arguably) worst was Radio X, will see if that holds up this year.

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 21:41 (two months ago) Permalink

That treblezind might be the most uninspired list of best songs I've seen so far. They should've added a one song restriction per artist.

Moka, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 21:47 (two months ago) Permalink

Gorilla vs Bear songs: http://www.gorillavsbear.net/gorilla-vs-bears-songs-of-2016/

01 JESSY LANZA | It Means I Love You
02 A TRIBE CALLED QUEST | The Space Program
03 KAYTRANADA | Lite Spots
04 WHITNEY | No Woman
05 MITSKI | Your Best American Girl
06 RADIOHEAD | True Love Waits
07 VINCE STAPLES | War Ready
08 ARIANA GRANDE | Into You
09 THE HOMIE | Too Late
10 MAGGIE ROGERS | Alaska
11 KYLE DIXON + MICHAEL STEIN | Stranger Things theme
12 RAE SREMMURD | Black Beatles (feat. Gucci Mane)
13 DANNY BROWN | Ain’t It Funny
14 CARLY RAE JEPSEN | Higher
15 KANYE WEST | Ultralight Beam
16 JENNY HVAL | Conceptual Romance
17 BEYONCÉ | All Night
18 FEAR OF MEN | Sane
19 FRANK OCEAN | Ivy
20 NICE AS FUCK | Door
21 JAPANESE BREAKFAST | The Woman That Loves You
22 FUTURE | Inside the Mattress
23 DIANA | Moment of Silence
24 KORNÉL KOVÁCS | The Bells
25 KEDR LIVANSKIY | Razrushitelniy Krug (Destructive Cycle)
26 DANNY BROWN | Really Doe
27 WHITE DENIM | Take It Easy (Ever After Lasting Love)
28 KENDRICK LAMAR | Untitled 06
29 BURIAL | Young Death
30 DJDS | You Don’t Have To Be Alone (Charlie Wilson version)
31 YUMI ZOUMA | Short Truth
32 DANNY L HARLE x CARLY RAE JEPSEN | Supernatural
33 NITE JEWEL | Boo Hoo
34 VESUVIO SOLO | Flakes
35 BOYBOY | Boy
36 SKEPTA | Lyrics
37 NICOLAS JAAR | Wildflowers
38 DRUGDEALER | Suddenly (feat. Weyes Blood)
39 MERCHANDISE | Lonesome Sound
40 KERO KERO BONITO | Lipslap
41 JENN CHAMPION | No One
42 ANTWON | 100K
43 ANDY SHAUF | Quite Like You
44 TROLLER | Storm Maker
45 FORT ROMEAU | Secrets & Lies
46 JULIANNA BARWICK | Nebula
47 S U R V I V E | Copter
48 CHARLI XCX | Paradise (feat. Hannah Diamond)
49 WHITE LUNG | Below
50 KRISTIN KONTROL | x-communicate
51 HOOPS | Gemini
52 LEON VYNEHALL | Blush
53 KATIE GATELY | Tuck
54 HAMILTON LEITHAUSER + ROSTAM | In a Black Out
55 KAITLYN AURELIA SMITH | Existence in the Unfurling
56 CHARLIE HILTON | Funny Anyway
57 BONNIE BANANE | Statue
58 ZOEE | Betcha
59 MORLY | The Choir
60 FRANK OCEAN | Solo (reprise feat. Andre 3000)
61 MARIA USBECK | Uno De Tus Ojos
62 ANGEL OLSEN | Sister
63 NV | Kata
64 MARISSA NADLER | Janie in Love
65 NEWMAN WOLF | Please Keep Talking
66 MAMIFFER | Mara
67 CHROMATICS | Dear Tommy
68 EXIT SOMEONE | Sydney, the List Goes On
69 JIM-E STACK | Deadstream
70 JAMES BLAKE | Always
71 DENT MAY | Face Down in the Gutter of Your Love
72 HELENA DELAND | Baby
73 DJ TAYE | Burnin Ya Boa
74 ABRA | Crybaby
75 CASS MCCOMBS | Bum Bum Bum
76 ERYKAH BADU | Trill Friends
77 BLEACHED | Wednesday Night Melody
78 FOG LAKE | Rattlesnake
79 PARTS | Pieces
80 KATIE DEY | Fear o’ the Light
81 FELIX SNOW x SZA | Lies
82 HUNDRED WATERS | Forgive Me for Giving Up
83 CROSS RECORD | The Depths
84 MERELY | Limestone Corridor
85 HAERTS | Eva
86 MALL GRAB x YAEJI | Mountain
87 CRYING | Children of the Wind
88 TERROR JR | Trippin
89 SOPHIA LOIZOU | Genesis 92: The Awakening
90 SCRAPS | Touch Blue
91 BEVERLY | Victoria
92 ANNA OF THE NORTH | Baby
93 GHETTO VANESSA | Yuh Live Nice
94 TIFFANY | I Just Wanna Dance
95 THE TRACKS | Go Out Tonight
96 BALTRA | Tears Drop
97 DÆVA | Dream
98 A.K. PAUL | Landcruisin’
99 CAFE LANAI | Here 4 U
100 LUH | Future Blues
101 LÅPSLEY | Operator (DJ Koze’s disco edit)

art baengels (monotony), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 23:19 (two months ago) Permalink

only even heard of 25 of those artists, finally I am old and out of touch (yells at cloud)

sleeve, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 23:28 (two months ago) Permalink

Fader's list of "24 Albums That Made Albums Matter" (whatever that means), unranked: http://www.thefader.com/2016/12/06/albums-that-mattered-2016

Frank Ocean, Endless
Kanye West, The Life of Pablo
Drake, Views
Kamaiyah, A Good Night in the Ghetto
Rihanna, ANTI
Elysia Crampton, Elysia Crampton Presents: Demon City
Beyoncé, LEMONADE
David Bowie, Blackstar
Solange, A Seat At The Table
Various Artists, Epic AF
Archy Marshall, A New Place 2 Drown
Young Thug, JEFFERY
Babyfather, BBF: Hosted By DJ Escrow
Bon Iver, 22, A Million
Frank Ocean, Blonde and Boys Don’t Cry
Future, Purple Reign
Chance The Rapper, Coloring Book
Francis and the Lights, Farewell, Starlite!
Tanya Tagaq, Retribution
Kaytranada, 99.9%
Blood Orange, Freetown Sound
Anohni, Hopelessness
21 Savage, Savage Mode
Gucci Mane, Everybody Looking

art baengels (monotony), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 23:37 (two months ago) Permalink

close call, glad Bon Iver showed up to help save albums

nomar, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 23:41 (two months ago) Permalink

insipid indie sites and their lists

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 23:43 (two months ago) Permalink

is there even an "indie" artist on that list

alpine static, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 23:54 (two months ago) Permalink

the indie game has shifted but the fader's aesthetic is pure hipster chic afaict

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 23:56 (two months ago) Permalink

only even heard of 25 of those artists, finally I am old and out of touch (yells at cloud)

― sleeve

is there anybody outside, like, this board who has heard of more than 25 of those artists? not trying to be sarcastic here, i'm a little sheltered and maybe there are parties you can go to where people will say "Oh yeah, 'Boy' by Boyboy, I love that one!" without lying through their teeth.

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 23:56 (two months ago) Permalink

for the record i listened to "boy" by boyboy and i did actually like it a lot, but i'll be fucked if i'm going to listen to 99 more bands playing at the walpurgisnacht rock festival in the illuminatus! trilogy.

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Wednesday, 7 December 2016 00:01 (two months ago) Permalink

A+ reference

sleeve, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 01:23 (two months ago) Permalink

Oh no not again. I've got dysentery from all these garbage music lists.

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 02:06 (two months ago) Permalink

not nearly enough Weyes Blood on these lists, btw

alpine static, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 02:31 (two months ago) Permalink

OTM

sleeve, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 02:57 (two months ago) Permalink

yep

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Wednesday, 7 December 2016 03:21 (two months ago) Permalink

i cannot emphasise how good that record is

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Wednesday, 7 December 2016 03:21 (two months ago) Permalink

Double J http://doublej.net.au/news/features/the-50-best-albums-of-2016?WT.mc_id=Radio_Radio-DoubleJ--JJ.%7CFeatures.The50BestAlbumsOf2016_TWT%7CDoubleJ

50. Plutonic Lab – Deep Beneath the Noise
49. Bernard Fanning – Civil Dusk
48. Margo Price – Midwest Farmer’s Daughter
47. Common – Black America Again
46. Savages – Adore Life
45. Junior Boys – Big Black Coat
44. De La Soul – And The Anonymous Nobody
43. NO ZU – Afterlife
42. Descendents – Hypercaffium Spazzinate
41. Mark Pritchard – Under The Sun
40. Cass McCombs – Mangy Love
39. Melody Pool – Deep Dark Savage Heart
38. White Denim – Stiff
37. The Kills – Ash & Ice
36. Jim James – Eternally Even
35. Rosie Lowe – Control
34. Big Smoke – Time is Golden
33. Kaitlyn Aurelia Smith – EARS
32. Paul Dempsey – Strange Loop
31. Iggy Pop – Post Pop Depression
30. Gawurra – Ratja Yaliyali
29. PJ Harvey – The Hope Six Demolition Project
28. Agnes Obel – Citizen Of Glass
27. Leonard Cohen – You Want It Darker
26. Teeth & Tongue – Give Up On Your Health
25. Frank Ocean – Blonde
24. Jordie Lane & the Sleepers - Glassellland
23. Laura Mvula – The Dreaming Room
22. D.D. Dumbo – Utopia Defeated
21. Jordan Rakei – Cloak
20. Whitney – Light Upon The Lake
19. James Blake – The Colour in Anything
18. Solange – A Seat At The Table
17. The Peep Tempel – Joy
16. Kate Tempest – Let Them Eat Chaos
15. A Tribe Called Quest – We got it from Here...Thank You 4 Your service
14. Julia Jacklin – Don’t Let The Kids Win
13. Michael Kiwanuka – Love & Hate
12. Olympia – Self Talk
11. Beyoncé – Lemonade
10. Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds – Skeleton Tree
9. Bon Iver – 22, A Million
8. Angel Olsen – My Woman
7. Ngaiire – Blastoma
6. The Avalanches – Wildflower
5. Anohni – Hopelessness
4. King Gizzard & the Lizard Wizard – Nonagon Infinity
3. The Drones – Feelin Kinda Free
2. Radiohead – A Moon Shaped Pool
1. David Bowie – Blackstar

art baengels (monotony), Wednesday, 7 December 2016 05:20 (two months ago) Permalink

I went one by one on the gvb list since I have nothing to do and I knew 47 of those songs and have 23 of those songs ( almost a perfect half)on my own personal top 100. So I can vouch for 23% of that list as being awesome. Never heard of boy by boyboy.

Moka, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 06:00 (two months ago) Permalink

From the top 10 I'll vouch for Whitney, ATCQ, Radiohead and Maggie Rogers. But the only song that makes me grunt in there is Jessy Lanza.

Moka, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 06:04 (two months ago) Permalink

Grunt in disgust like an angry boar

Moka, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 06:24 (two months ago) Permalink

Idolator: http://www.idolator.com/featured/best-albums-2016-beyonce-solange-frank-ocean-rihanna-kanye-west-bruno-mars

1. Beyonce, Lemonade
2. Solange, A Seat At The Table
3. Kanye West, The Life Of Pablo
4. Rihanna, Anti
5. Shura, Nothing’s Real
6. The 1975, I Like It When You Sleep, for You Are So Beautiful yet So Unaware of It
7. Bruno Mars, 24K Magic
8. Frank Ocean, Blonde
9. Kristin Kontrol, X-Communicate
10. Ariana Grande, Dangerous Woman

art baengels (monotony), Wednesday, 7 December 2016 06:33 (two months ago) Permalink

not nearly enough Weyes Blood on these lists, btw

― alpine static, Wednesday, December 7, 2016 2:31 AM (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Probably on the basis that it was released too close to the election.

in twelve parts (lamonti), Wednesday, 7 December 2016 07:50 (two months ago) Permalink

Cos it is great, I mean

in twelve parts (lamonti), Wednesday, 7 December 2016 07:51 (two months ago) Permalink

has everybody already forgotten about that Avalanches album? It's only on 2 lists here...

pumped up kicks and levels on repeat all night (2011nostalgia), Wednesday, 7 December 2016 09:19 (two months ago) Permalink

Really surprised the Maxwell album ended up being relatively underrated.

Chris L, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 11:25 (two months ago) Permalink

not sure i even saw a decent review of the maxwell

r|t|c, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 12:00 (two months ago) Permalink

brad nelson is def ilx tastemaker of teh year

― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 19:07 Bookmark

last few for certi. 2016 ceremony is cancelled though

r|t|c, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 12:00 (two months ago) Permalink

Metal Hammer
http://teamrock.com/feature/2016-11-30/the-50-best-metal-albums-of-2016

Cosmic Slop, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 12:13 (two months ago) Permalink

Paywalled?

Siegbran, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 12:16 (two months ago) Permalink

seems to be. anyone a member there? f'n'b?

Cosmic Slop, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 12:21 (two months ago) Permalink

I just bought Kerrang on my ipad so gimme a few mins to subscribe the list

Cosmic Slop, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 12:22 (two months ago) Permalink

a+ post

nxd, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 12:33 (two months ago) Permalink

Kerrang top 50

50 Electric Century - From The Night To Control
49 Alcest - Kodama
48 Vodun - Possession
47 Pup - The Dream Is Over
46 Descendents - Hypercaffum Spazzinate
45 Billy Talent - Afraid Of Heights
44 Black Peaks - Statues
43 Against The Current - In Our Bones
42 The Pretty Reckless - Who You Selling For
41 Swmrs - Drive North
40 With Confidence - Better Weather
39 Brian Fallon - Painkillers
38 Cane Hill - Smile
37 Bury Tomorrow - Earthbound
36 Sum 41 - 13 Voices
35 Russian Circles - Guidance
34 The Amity Affliction - This Could Be Heartbreak
33 Beach Slang - A Loud Bash of Teenage Feelings
32 Modern Baseball - Holy Ghost
31 Letlive - If I'm The Devil.
30 Weezer - (The White Album)
29 Waterparks - Double Dare
28 Alter Bridge - The Last Hero
27 Asking Alexandria - The Black
26 Lonely the Brave - Things Will Matter
25 Beartooth - Aggressive
24 A Day To Remember - Bad Vibrations
23 Jimmy Eat World - Integrity Blues
22 Hellions - Opera Oblivia
21 The Black Queen - Fever Daydream
20 Nails - You Will Never Be One Of Us
19 Milk Teeth - Vile Child
18 Muncie Girls - From Caplan to Belsize
17 The Dillinger Escape Plan
16 Biffy Cunto - Ellipsis
15 Gojira - Magma
14 Moose Blood - Blush
13 Blink-182 - California
12 Pierce The Veil - Misadventures
11 Every Time I Die
10 Twin Atlantic - GLA
9 BABYMETAL - Metal Resistance
8 Panic At The Disco - Death Of A Bachelor
7 Deftones - Gore
6 Against Me - Shape Shift With Me
5 Avenged Sevenfold - The Stage
4 Frank Iero And The Patience - Parachutes
3 Architects - All Our Gods Have Abandoned Us
2 Metallica - Hardwired... To Self-Destruct
1 Green Day - Revolution Radio

Cosmic Slop, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 12:48 (two months ago) Permalink

haha stupid ipad autocorrect said subscribe instead of transcribe. well there it is anyway

Cosmic Slop, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 12:49 (two months ago) Permalink

dedicated to brad and maura obviously

Cosmic Slop, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 12:49 (two months ago) Permalink

The average age of the band members in that list much be creeping towards Mojo level. Does the Kerrrang! reader base just not have any cool young bands any more?

Matt DC, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 12:53 (two months ago) Permalink

idk there's lots I haven't heard of on there but there are quite a few names I've rarely thought about in like a decade. I had no idea bands like Jimmy Eat World and Sum 41 were still going somehow.

ultros ultros-ghali, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 12:57 (two months ago) Permalink

and lol I don't think you can blame autocorrect for Biffy Cunto

ultros ultros-ghali, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 12:58 (two months ago) Permalink

no, that was quite deliberate :)

Cosmic Slop, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 13:00 (two months ago) Permalink

oh k3rr lol

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Wednesday, 7 December 2016 13:00 (two months ago) Permalink

the DEP album (their last) is p great tbf

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Wednesday, 7 December 2016 13:01 (two months ago) Permalink

"24 Albums That Made Albums Matter"

Gucci Mane, Everybody Looking

feel like fader ran out of rap records here

also "year of the album" narratives officially exhausting

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Wednesday, 7 December 2016 13:01 (two months ago) Permalink

The average age of the band members in that list much be creeping towards Mojo level. Does the Kerrrang! reader base just not have any cool young bands any more?

― Matt DC,

I imagine most of those bands we've not heard of are young emo bands

Cosmic Slop, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 13:02 (two months ago) Permalink

Car Bomb even better but not on the list, alas

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Wednesday, 7 December 2016 13:02 (two months ago) Permalink

thrilled to sift through that kerrang list

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Wednesday, 7 December 2016 13:03 (two months ago) Permalink

but Kerrang has always been really loyal to old heritage acts

Cosmic Slop, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 13:04 (two months ago) Permalink

the Kerrang list has a few good things on it, some real horrific stuff and the rest is bands I've never heard of as I havent read Kerrang in a decade bar the eoy albums issues.

Cosmic Slop, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 13:05 (two months ago) Permalink

Really surprised the Maxwell album ended up being relatively underrated.

― Chris L, Wednesday, December 7, 2016 4:25 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

not sure i even saw a decent review of the maxwell

― r|t|c, Wednesday, December 7, 2016 5:00 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

record was very easy to write about without listening to it afaict

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Wednesday, 7 December 2016 13:10 (two months ago) Permalink

yeah i read alfred's rvw too

r|t|c, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 13:31 (two months ago) Permalink

altho in fairness i think the max alb maybe does lack for some mystery quality that elicited the repeat compulsion of the one before... idgi cos whenever i listened i was riveted, senses overloaded, but after...

r|t|c, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 13:40 (two months ago) Permalink

i thought so too for a while but lately i've been coming back to it a lot in the way i feel magnetized to the first. (though i still sorta don't know why the stuart matthewman tracks are there and they sorta give me a nightmare vision of a bloozy sade record)

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Wednesday, 7 December 2016 13:48 (two months ago) Permalink

yeah the matthewman trax are entirely it, i resent them v deeply. guess that they manage to effectively down the whole thing on their own is testament to the crystalline changeling construction of the rest, refinement to an near-imperceptible nanotech degree

r|t|c, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 14:07 (two months ago) Permalink

without them it is prob the most truly futuristic soul record ever

r|t|c, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 14:10 (two months ago) Permalink

That Idolator top 10 is my favourite list so far. I think it's the first list to feature Shura. Also the Bruno Mars and Kristin Kontrol records really deserve their places.

Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 14:46 (two months ago) Permalink

I had no idea Idolator still existed

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 7 December 2016 14:57 (two months ago) Permalink

I think we remember it each year when they put out an okay list

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Wednesday, 7 December 2016 15:10 (two months ago) Permalink

Happy the Muncie Girls record was given a nod in the Kerrang list.

husked, tonal wails (irrational), Wednesday, 7 December 2016 15:18 (two months ago) Permalink

just had a tipoff that all frank ocean placings and reviews were really for lil peep but advertisers changed them at the last second for woke clickbae

r|t|c, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 15:25 (two months ago) Permalink

lol @ 'clickbae'

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 7 December 2016 15:29 (two months ago) Permalink

it's seriously baffling. when it makes the 77 nobody will know how

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Wednesday, 7 December 2016 15:44 (two months ago) Permalink

I know no one will agree with me but 77 is just too damn short for these lists now

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 7 December 2016 15:48 (two months ago) Permalink

the idolator list is pretty typical/predictable of nu-idolator, the mainstream pop records plus a few albums that mostly the pop blogosphere stans over

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Wednesday, 7 December 2016 16:12 (two months ago) Permalink

I've been relistening to the Maxwell album too. I got stuck on "All the Ways That Love Can Feel" for a couple listening cycles on Sunday.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 December 2016 16:32 (two months ago) Permalink

― r|t|c, Wednesday, December 7, 2016 5:00 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

record was very easy to write about without listening to it afaict

― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Wednesday, December 7, 2016 8:10 AM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah i read alfred's rvw too

― r|t|c, Wednesday, December 7, 2016

:(

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 December 2016 16:39 (two months ago) Permalink

r|t|c, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 17:03 (two months ago) Permalink

How is the Maxwell futuristic? I like that description but not sure I could defend it.

gospodin simmel, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 17:25 (two months ago) Permalink

Idolator's Top 10 of anything that isn't technically an "album" in their book:

10. Nina - Beyond Memory
9. Bridgit Mendler
8. Betsy
7. Annabelle Jones - Libelle
6. Dagny
5. Grace VanderWaal - Perfectly Imperfect
4. Tinashe
3. Kendrick
2. Chance
1. Carly Rae

http://www.idolator.com/7652330/best-mixtapes-eps-2016

Jeff W, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 20:31 (two months ago) Permalink

101 LÅPSLEY | Operator (DJ Koze’s disco edit)

This is about 95 places too low.

Dan Worsley, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 20:32 (two months ago) Permalink

yeah i love that song/remix

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Wednesday, 7 December 2016 21:22 (two months ago) Permalink

i thought so too for a while but lately i've been coming back to it a lot in the way i feel magnetized to the first. (though i still sorta don't know why the stuart matthewman tracks are there and they sorta give me a nightmare vision of a bloozy sade record)

― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Wednesday, December 7, 2016 1:48 PM (eight hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah the matthewman trax are entirely it, i resent them v deeply. guess that they manage to effectively down the whole thing on their own is testament to the crystalline changeling construction of the rest, refinement to an near-imperceptible nanotech degree

― r|t|c, Wednesday, December 7, 2016 2:07 PM (seven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol, i had no idea which these were and...they are two of the strongest tracks for me

i spend the first half of the album enjoying it but as background music but the second half completely reels me in and i'm usually spellbound by the end. still not determined the exact point in the album the shift occurs for me

lex pretend, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 21:50 (two months ago) Permalink

Goddamit Idolator you had a chance to mention KING as not really an album but a comp + new songs and you fucked it up

Moka, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 21:57 (two months ago) Permalink

http://www.treblezine.com/33010-top-50-best-albums-of-2016

Evan, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 22:10 (two months ago) Permalink

That list has a split personality. 50-21 has some pretty fun stuff, then the top 20 is the S.O.L.

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 8 December 2016 00:01 (two months ago) Permalink

What was I thinking? I meant S as in same ol' sh*t.

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 8 December 2016 00:03 (two months ago) Permalink

Goddamit Idolator you had a chance to mention KING as not really an album but a comp + new songs and you fucked it up

KING have never represented their album to be a compilation + new songs (and couldn't many, many debut albums be so described?) as far as I know?

art baengels (monotony), Thursday, 8 December 2016 06:31 (two months ago) Permalink

http://fasterlouder.junkee.com/50-best-albums-2016/869258

Finally, someone gives The Drones a nod. D.D Dumbo is interesting, been listening to it this past week. He kind of sounds like Sting more than Sting does. Or Eliot Sumner.

http://www.ew.com/article/2016/12/08/ew-best-albums-2016

Not much crossover with my tastes, but it's actually more ILM aligned than a lot of lists.

You can see all the list in a more uniform format at http://www.albumoftheyear.org/lists.php (see recently added lists column on right)

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 8 December 2016 15:18 (two months ago) Permalink

the Drones made my top 50. not their best album but a very worthy sharp left turn.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 8 December 2016 15:19 (two months ago) Permalink

Beyoncé - Lemonade #1

Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 8 December 2016 15:25 (two months ago) Permalink

Possibly the most boring list yet, plus Britney.

dorsalstop, Thursday, 8 December 2016 18:52 (two months ago) Permalink

fucksake GAPDY really is happening again

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Thursday, 8 December 2016 18:54 (two months ago) Permalink

http://www.splicetoday.com/music/splice-today-s-top-10-records-of-2016

#1. David Bowie — Blackstar
#2. Kanye West — The Life of Pablo
#3. Mannequin Pussy — Romantic
#4. Matmos — Ultimate Care II
#5. A Tribe Called Quest — We Got It from Here... Thank You 4 Your Service
#6. Young Thug — JEFFERY
#7. Rosali — Out of Love
#8. Animal Collective — Painting With
#9. Deakin — Sleep Cycle
#10. Deerhoof — The Magic

flappy bird, Thursday, 8 December 2016 18:56 (two months ago) Permalink

GAPDYXX it was. the xx were at the top of all those lists

Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 8 December 2016 18:57 (two months ago) Permalink

a GADPY with A Tribe Called Quest and Beyoncé is a good GADPY imo

Van Horn Street, Thursday, 8 December 2016 18:59 (two months ago) Permalink

got no problem with those two records. ATCQ is in my own personal top 5. but it's not close to being at the top end of all these lists. tbh it's the crushing inevitability of frank ocean and radiohead that is killing me

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:03 (two months ago) Permalink

Been following the Guardian countdown which was so far so predictable but I am genuinely astonished that enough of them liked that mess of a Rihanna album to vote it in at #7. Especially as Life of Paolo is probably still to come.

Matt DC, Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:03 (two months ago) Permalink

Paolo Di Kanye

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:07 (two months ago) Permalink

What has been in the Guardian list this year?

Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:07 (two months ago) Permalink

You guys do realise that the issue with GAPDY wasn't just its predictability but its overwhelming white limp-dickness? Right?

Matt DC, Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:08 (two months ago) Permalink

(Full disclosure I loved that YYYs album which was the only one with some actual energy to it)

Matt DC, Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:09 (two months ago) Permalink

Can't get enough of that anti-white rhetoric these days.

_Rudipherous_, Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:11 (two months ago) Permalink

Worse than just being bad music, they're white too!

_Rudipherous_, Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:12 (two months ago) Permalink

what are you white or something

I've read Ta-nehisi Coates. (marcos), Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:13 (two months ago) Permalink

?? I'm lost

Evan, Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:13 (two months ago) Permalink

― I've read Ta-nehisi Coates. (marcos), Thursday, December 8, 2016 2:13 PM (thirty-seven seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:14 (two months ago) Permalink

also the collective decision that beyonce is the only black female solo artist allowed at the top of these lists when DAWN (among others) is perhaps at least her equal is an unfortunate one

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:16 (two months ago) Permalink

it needs interrogation, at least

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:16 (two months ago) Permalink

I don't like all this year's consensus picks but if you don't understand how it's different to and more interesting than 2009's wall-to-wall tepid North American indie-synth picks then I've got nothing for you.

Matt DC, Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:18 (two months ago) Permalink

Solange tied with Beyonce on the Ringer list

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:18 (two months ago) Permalink

anyone outside the Knowles family

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:19 (two months ago) Permalink

Solange was Number One at NPR, Rihanna was Number One at Fuse, Louis is an idiot

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:20 (two months ago) Permalink

anyone outside the Knowles family

I really wish there was a Kelly Rowland album that was popping up all over the place that I could namecheck here

¶ (DJP), Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:21 (two months ago) Permalink

Grrr

I just mean 'where's Dawn'

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:21 (two months ago) Permalink

Yes, why aren't people rating this indie label album that came out 20 days ago over the woman who played the Super Bowl halftime show and the dying statement from one of rock's most iconic musicians

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:24 (two months ago) Permalink

what could use some more ~interrogation is the collective decision that beyoncé only became an Important Musician and EOY shoo-in in 2013 and why it took her FOURTEEN years to get to that stage

lex pretend, Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:26 (two months ago) Permalink

rip thom yorke

people might not be rating it but the critics have a duty to represent the best music, right

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:27 (two months ago) Permalink

Dawn's album doesn't even have a wikipedia page yet, but everyone should definitely be making the case that it's better than the album from someone who was nominated for Time's person of the year, conquered the VMAs and the Super Bowl and is currently sweeping the Grammys.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:28 (two months ago) Permalink

Beyoncé has been selling records and touring like an important musician since I can remember.

Van Horn Street, Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:29 (two months ago) Permalink

someone who was nominated for Time's person of the year, conquered the VMAs and the Super Bowl and is currently sweeping the Grammys.

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, December 8, 2016 7:28 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

none of these things are what make beyoncé's album good or remotely relevant to lemonade's quality

lex pretend, Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:30 (two months ago) Permalink

Beyoncé has been selling records and touring like an important musician since I can remember.

― Van Horn Street, Thursday, December 8, 2016 7:29 PM (forty-four seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

well she has been an important musician all this time, i'm talking solely about critics

lex pretend, Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:31 (two months ago) Permalink

the super bowl, you say

banfred bann (wins), Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:31 (two months ago) Permalink

dunno what the super bowl is but i remember beyoncé graciously permitting a football (? baseball? basketball?) match to be appended to one of her concerts this year

lex pretend, Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:32 (two months ago) Permalink

I don't even mean Dawn's album is better. I'm just not seeing it in many lists alongside Beyonce etc. Anyway, I just think I hate watching any sort of musical consensus form, this is a losing fight

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:32 (two months ago) Permalink

is Whiney talking about Coldplay rn?

Van Horn Street, Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:33 (two months ago) Permalink

consensus is exclusion

also lol lex

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:34 (two months ago) Permalink

Beyonce's last album would have been way up there had it not been released in December with no publicity. 4 did pretty well IIRC. Of the others only Birthday is even vaguely meriting of a high position in any of these lists and even then it was probably outdone by a lot of shonkier records.

Matt DC, Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:35 (two months ago) Permalink

Can we ban Louis from this thread

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:35 (two months ago) Permalink

the super bowl is a controversial but popular american event where spectators enter a stadium and queue up to take a bit of cannabis housed in an american football field-size bowl

they sit down and people-watch as entertainers perform all types of art forms. there's a cloud of mystery as to whether the entertainers themselves are stoned

just fyi

F♯ A♯ (∞), Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:38 (two months ago) Permalink

"I just think I hate watching any sort of musical consensus form, this is a losing fight"

Pretty sure you would be wetting your pants if a critical consensus was forming around Jute Gyte and the Cardiacs. Or you'd be complaining it was forming around the wrong records.

Matt DC, Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:38 (two months ago) Permalink

I'd be uneasy tbh

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:39 (two months ago) Permalink

Anyway, I just think I hate watching any sort of musical consensus form, this is a losing fight

― Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago),

I hate to tell you this but every year since sometime in the 60s has had a consensus for rock & pop albums.

I expect it goes back further for jazz

Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:40 (two months ago) Permalink

One of the ilxors most obsessed with data and lists is just diarreahing all over this thread over and over again to say he hates the actual outcome of data and lists

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:40 (two months ago) Permalink

Pretty sure you would be wetting your pants if a critical consensus was forming around Jute Gyte and the Cardiacs. Or you'd be complaining it was forming around the wrong records.

heh, was thinking the same thing.

Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:41 (two months ago) Permalink

it's okay he does this every year xp

I've read Ta-nehisi Coates. (marcos), Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:41 (two months ago) Permalink

ilx in general feels like a lj playground atm which is good in terms of preventing me spending too much time on here

lex pretend, Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:42 (two months ago) Permalink

One of the ilxors most obsessed with data and lists

and for once he doesnt mean me!!

Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:42 (two months ago) Permalink

lol

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:42 (two months ago) Permalink

can't wait for louis to see the first set of country albums to appear on the ILE year-end thread.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:42 (two months ago) Permalink

I just want everything good represented. I want wildly differing lists with maybe a few albums cropping up multiple times, or more precisely multiple albums cropping up a few times. That isn't too much to ask for.

I like my own data and lists for personal tab-keeping reasons. I like looking at individuals' lists. That's a completely different thing to tabulating every list into one big consensus-ball. Data and lists are not just one thing. They're a world of grey areas.

ILE can have the country albums sure lol

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:44 (two months ago) Permalink

Voting will start on the metal thread today or tomorrow, so in a weeks time we can see if Jute Gyte wins it

Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:44 (two months ago) Permalink

i like most of the music lex has been boosting lately. why u break heart :(

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:46 (two months ago) Permalink

lj you wont get wildly differing lists. go look at rocklist.net or rym and you will see most of the same albums in a different order.

If you wilfully try to do a different list then you may not be accurately representing your taste.

The reason the ilm polls work is because I think people genuinely love King, Jute Gyte, Dawn or Annie not because they feel they shouldnt vote for music they like but is on other lists.

Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:47 (two months ago) Permalink

nme and melody maker lists from the 70s right up until the end all had a huge amount of the same albums just in a different order. spin.rs, etc probably the same.

Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:48 (two months ago) Permalink

I just want everything good represented. I want wildly differing lists with maybe a few albums cropping up multiple times, or more precisely multiple albums cropping up a few times. That isn't too much to ask for.

What you are actually saying is "I don't want the result of a poll"

¶ (DJP), Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:57 (two months ago) Permalink

someone will be posting "i prefer reading writers individual lists anyway" in 5, 4, 3, 2....

call all destroyer, Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:59 (two months ago) Permalink

LJ's on it

I like looking at individuals' lists. That's a completely different thing to tabulating every list into one big consensus-ball.

nomar, Thursday, 8 December 2016 20:00 (two months ago) Permalink

Found 40-7 in the Guardian list. Not seen much talk about in on FB which is weird due to lots of ilx fb friends who write for it

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/nov/30/the-best-albums-of-2016

Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 8 December 2016 20:34 (two months ago) Permalink

publications should just have their writers toss their lists into a bowl and run with the first one they pull out

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Thursday, 8 December 2016 20:59 (two months ago) Permalink

they should compile a nominations list and make it mandatory for their staff writers to hear every record on the list before voting

that's in an ideal world. maybe I do hate poll results (ilx aside) though. won't post here any more after today

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Thursday, 8 December 2016 21:22 (two months ago) Permalink

how mindful, how active, would you all say the inclusion of solange on these lists is. i'm not asking that to make a point about the album's quality like for blond. but really i don't have any confidence in the dialogue being there

r|t|c, Thursday, 8 December 2016 22:23 (two months ago) Permalink

i was completely taken by surprise by the solange album belatedly bowling me over - in the week after the us elections i often felt like it was the only thing i could listen to, which i didn't see coming. the initial wave of praise was suffocating (as initial waves of praise always are these days) but it's a really special album on a very real level to me

lex pretend, Thursday, 8 December 2016 23:24 (two months ago) Permalink

I've a heart of stone when it comes to that album but I've friends who like lex have embraced it since Nov. 8.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 December 2016 23:32 (two months ago) Permalink

fun fact: Solange is Beynoce's sister

alpine static, Thursday, 8 December 2016 23:33 (two months ago) Permalink

I liked it from the beginning but won't deny that it has a tranquility that has been partic appealing over the past month.

rob, Friday, 9 December 2016 00:00 (two months ago) Permalink

I like it a lot!

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Friday, 9 December 2016 00:38 (two months ago) Permalink

Afropop.org "stocking stuffers" (from below the equator on a couple of continents and more)

BISA KDEI
CAETANO VELOSA
DJ ROCKY MARSIANO
DON JAZZY
ELAGE DIOUF
ELZA SOARES
FATOU SEIDI GHALI
GILBERTO GIL
LOS HACHEROS
NOURA MINT SEYMALI
ORCHESTRE POLY-RYTHMO DE CONTONOU
OSEI KORANKYE
PEDRITO MARTINEZ GROUP
RICHARD BONA
TIKEN JAH FAKOLY
TIWA SAVAGE
VAUDOU GAME
VICTOR TAVARES
VIEUX KANTE
YISHAK BANJAW
ZOMBA PRISON PROJECT

curmudgeon, Friday, 9 December 2016 04:52 (two months ago) Permalink

Oops -- Here are the specifics

The complete list of this year’s recommended records, and where to find them:

Bitori, Legend of Funaná: The Forbidden Music of the Cape Verde Islands (Analog Africa)

Elage Diouf, Melokàane (DEP)

Tiwa Savage, R.E.D. (Mavin)

Bisa Kdei, Break Through (BLMC)

Yishak Banjaw, Love Songs Vol. 2 (Terenga Beat)

Debo Band, Ere Gobez (FPE)

Various Artists, Bobo Yeye: Belle Epoque in Upper Volta (Numero Group)

Various Artists, Urgent Jumping! East African Musiki Wa Dansi Classics (Sterns Africa)

Le Tout-Puissant Orchestre Poly-Rythmo, Madjafalao (Because Music)

Vaudou Game, Kidayu (Hot Casa)

Bossacucanova The Best of Bossacucanova (Six Degrees)

Gilberto Gil and Caetano Veloso, Dois Amigos: Um Século de Música (Ao Vivo) (Nonesuch)

Elza Soares, A Mulher do Fim do Mundo (Mais Um Discos)

Los Hacheros, Bambulaye (Chulo)

Ibrahim Maalouf, Black Light (Impulse)

Tiken Jah Fakoly, Racines (Universal)

Vieux Kanté, The Young Man’s Harp (Sterns Africa)

Bombino, Azel (Partisan)

Noura Mint Seymali, Noura Mint Seymali, Arbina (Glitterbeat)

Mohamed Abozekry, Karkadé (Jazz Village/Harmonia Mundi)

Osei Korankye, Seperewa of Ghana: Emmere Nhyina Nse (Akwaaba Music)

Richard Bona, Heritage (Qwest)

The Pedrito Martinez Group and Román Díaz, Habana Dreams (Motema Music)

Harold Lopez-Nussa, El Viaje (Mack Avenue)

Zomba Prison Project, I Will Not Stop Singing (Six Degrees)

Fatou Seidi Ghali & Alamnou Akrouni, Les Filles de Illighadad (Sahel Sounds)

Sahra Halgan Trio, Faransiskiyo Somaliland (Buda Music)

Aziza Brahim, Abbar el Hamada (Glitterbeat)

Rocky Marsiano, Meu Kamba Vol. Dois (Akwaaba)

Graveola E O Lixo Polifônico, Camaleão Borboleta (Mais Um Discos)

La Yegros, Magnetismo (Soundways)[i]

curmudgeon, Friday, 9 December 2016 04:57 (two months ago) Permalink

that Gil/Veloso album is a snooze imo

Noura Mint Seymali record is great, stripped down Saharan blues with a torch singer as a frontperson

she was super good live as well

sleeve, Friday, 9 December 2016 04:59 (two months ago) Permalink

http://www.albumoftheyear.org/list/620-revolvers-20-best-albums-of-2016/

Whiney I think used to write for Revolver

Cosmic Slop, Friday, 9 December 2016 11:50 (two months ago) Permalink

If you ignore the uniform adulation for Bowie, Radiohead, Nick Cave, Cohen and Iggy, albumoftheyear's aggregated list seems reasonably or at least predictably well representative of newer acts and genre range.

It's worse than GAPDY if you think it matters that the five this time are all decades old.

nashwan, Friday, 9 December 2016 12:21 (two months ago) Permalink

only if you're ageist

Cosmic Slop, Friday, 9 December 2016 12:29 (two months ago) Permalink

Oh yeah, and they're all men too.

nashwan, Friday, 9 December 2016 12:35 (two months ago) Permalink

interesting thing to me about the aggregate is how high kanye is placing with a record which seems widely to be considered a misstep. in the aoty rankings it's the highest placing record without a #1 vote. this i think is perhaps a better example than beyonce (whose record truly is superb) of someone getting plaudits based essentially on name recognition.

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Friday, 9 December 2016 12:41 (two months ago) Permalink

I liked it from the beginning but won't deny that it has a tranquility that has been partic appealing over the past month.

― rob, Friday, December 9, 2016 12:00 AM (twelve hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

what's kind of brilliant about that album to me is that it conveys both serene and restorative tranquillity but also total broken-down (and very specific) depression simultaneously. it builds the former out of the latter but not in a worthy "how to overcome sadness through being excellent" kind of way, the sadness is the core of it.

lex pretend, Friday, 9 December 2016 13:02 (two months ago) Permalink

like, it actually feels like being so fatigued that you want to give up while also ultimately working towards a kind of hope and making the case for these states of mind being intertwined if not the same thing

lex pretend, Friday, 9 December 2016 13:04 (two months ago) Permalink

yep

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Friday, 9 December 2016 13:36 (two months ago) Permalink

I've never known the thread starter to be particularly interested in tracks rather than albums, and the thread title reflects that, but someone hit us up with some good tracks lists please. They're usually more fun/interesting.

Matt DC, Friday, 9 December 2016 14:48 (two months ago) Permalink

It's worse than GAPDY if you think it matters that the five this time are all decades old.

GRAMPDY

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Friday, 9 December 2016 14:51 (two months ago) Permalink

just be glad the Wilco record is not showing up much

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Friday, 9 December 2016 14:52 (two months ago) Permalink

GAWDY

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 9 December 2016 14:53 (two months ago) Permalink

It's worse than GAPDY if you think it matters that the five this time are all decades old.

Hey some of them are dead. And you can't just filter Beyonce and Solange out because they don't fit the theory.

Matt DC, Friday, 9 December 2016 14:55 (two months ago) Permalink

SOLRIPBEY

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Friday, 9 December 2016 15:00 (two months ago) Permalink

lol

¶ (DJP), Friday, 9 December 2016 15:10 (two months ago) Permalink

I've never known the thread starter to be particularly interested in tracks rather than albums, and the thread title reflects that, but someone hit us up with some good tracks lists please. They're usually more fun/interesting.

― Matt DC,

gotta get your snidey remark in as usual, eh?

this type of thread has always had both albums & tracks and there has been tracks lists posted and I'm sure as they come out more will be

Cosmic Slop, Friday, 9 December 2016 15:26 (two months ago) Permalink

Haha that wasn't meant to be snide, you *are* usually more visibly involved/interested in the ILM albums poll when it rolls around.

Matt DC, Friday, 9 December 2016 15:28 (two months ago) Permalink

If you would like a reminder of how dire pop music has been this year, I could post the Billboard Hot 100 for 2016.

¶ (DJP), Friday, 9 December 2016 15:29 (two months ago) Permalink

xp

fair enough. I usually quite like the ilm tracks poll even if its more from a spectator point of view

Cosmic Slop, Friday, 9 December 2016 15:36 (two months ago) Permalink

we did try a metal tracks poll before but the voters werent interested so i dumped it

Cosmic Slop, Friday, 9 December 2016 15:36 (two months ago) Permalink

new board description

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 9 December 2016 15:40 (two months ago) Permalink

Has this been posted yet?
http://pitchfork.com/features/lists-and-guides/9990-the-20-best-electronic-albums-of-2016/

Cosmic Slop, Friday, 9 December 2016 15:43 (two months ago) Permalink

lol

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 9 December 2016 15:49 (two months ago) Permalink

lex otm on solange album, it is really good

I've read Ta-nehisi Coates. (marcos), Friday, 9 December 2016 15:56 (two months ago) Permalink

i just heard this song the other day, it has almost 350 million views on youtube.

nomar, Friday, 9 December 2016 16:42 (two months ago) Permalink

the bandcamp countdown just finished up and it turned out to be a really great varied list https://daily.bandcamp.com/2016/12/09/the-best-albums-of-2016-20-1/

king at no. 1! oranssi pazuzu!

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 9 December 2016 16:52 (two months ago) Permalink

that Jose Mauro reissue that led off their list was fantastic

rob, Friday, 9 December 2016 16:55 (two months ago) Permalink

I am super happy that Jenny Besetzt ended up at #6 on the Bandcamp list.

¶ (DJP), Friday, 9 December 2016 17:19 (two months ago) Permalink

oh thanks for pointing that out, reminded me that i needed to buy it still

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 9 December 2016 17:29 (two months ago) Permalink

xpost. Somewhat ironically, now that Wilco are actually sort of good (last two albums) they're vanishing from the charts. Serves them right I guess.

dlp9001, Friday, 9 December 2016 17:29 (two months ago) Permalink

Pitchfork's 20 Best Experimental Albums. I'm working through these. Matmos is really good and Yves Tumor is enjoyable so far.

Spiritual Hat Minimalism (Sund4r), Friday, 9 December 2016 17:46 (two months ago) Permalink

Oh, people are hating on it on the Pitchfork thread.

Spiritual Hat Minimalism (Sund4r), Friday, 9 December 2016 17:47 (two months ago) Permalink

serpentwithfeet is pretty badass but it's not really what I would bring to mind when thinking of "experimental music"

¶ (DJP), Friday, 9 December 2016 17:48 (two months ago) Permalink

Anna Meredith album is great as well but there's nothing experimental about it at all.

Matt DC, Friday, 9 December 2016 17:51 (two months ago) Permalink

Not at all??

Evan, Friday, 9 December 2016 17:53 (two months ago) Permalink

Ha, yeah, I don't know if I'd really describe the things I've listened to as "experimental" per se but these lists usually include music I enjoy. xp

Spiritual Hat Minimalism (Sund4r), Friday, 9 December 2016 17:58 (two months ago) Permalink

Requirement number one to be an 'experimental art' artist: your album cover must be black & white.

Moka, Friday, 9 December 2016 18:03 (two months ago) Permalink

nomar, Friday, 9 December 2016 18:17 (two months ago) Permalink

Other notable entries from the Bandcamp list:

#37 Sélébéyone, Sélébéyone
#32 Marissa Nadler, Strangers
#28 SubRosa, For This We Fought the Battle of Ages
#24 The Body, No One Deserves Happiness
#14 Elza Soares, The woman at the end of the world (A mulher do fim do mundo)
#8 Jenny Hval, Blood Bitch
#6 Jenny Besetzt, Tender Madness
#5 Shabaka & the Ancestors, Wisdom of Elders
#4 Ette, Homemade Lemonade
#3 NxWorries, Yes Lawd!
#2 Moor Mother, Fetish Bones

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 9 December 2016 19:20 (two months ago) Permalink

Yeah I'm wondering about that Moor Mother album tbh. Very intrigued from the few snippets I've read

sushi and the banh mis (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 9 December 2016 20:16 (two months ago) Permalink

http://www.stereogum.com/1914711/the-10-best-jazz-albums-of-2016/franchises/2016-in-review/

Stereogum's never run a jazz list before. I'm glad they asked me for one.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Friday, 9 December 2016 20:36 (two months ago) Permalink

#7 Noname is also great/notable!

(so, the whole Bandcamp Top 8 then)

xxp

Jeff W, Friday, 9 December 2016 20:37 (two months ago) Permalink

Ok I always roll my eyes at the whole 'easier to admire than to listen to' but that's pretty much where I'm at with Moor Mother

(though "KGBK" just came on, and that's sounding pretty cool)

sushi and the banh mis (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 9 December 2016 20:44 (two months ago) Permalink

Ya I like Noname, just didn't call it out cuz it's been in a handful of other lists.

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 9 December 2016 21:07 (two months ago) Permalink

Stereogum's never run a jazz list before. I'm glad they asked me for one.

Nice. I've been enjoying Michael Formanek’s Ensemble Kolossus – The Distance. Also, the Pi label is putting out great stuff, like the Steve Lehman (Sélébéyone from the Bandcamp list), Henry Threadgill's Ensemble Double Up and Jonathan Finlayson & Sicilian Defense. Also props to Pi for the coolest integration of their site with Bandcamp:

https://stevelehman.bandcamp.com/album/s-l-b-yone
https://henrythreadgill.bandcamp.com/album/old-locks-and-irregular-verbs
https://jonathanfinlayson.bandcamp.com/album/moving-still?

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 9 December 2016 21:18 (two months ago) Permalink

My mention of Pi was in response to this entry on Phil's list: https://tyshawn-sorey.bandcamp.com/album/the-inner-spectrum-of-variables?

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 9 December 2016 21:19 (two months ago) Permalink

Does anyone know of any good contemporary 'classical'/compositional/'new music'/notated music lists?

Spiritual Hat Minimalism (Sund4r), Friday, 9 December 2016 21:21 (two months ago) Permalink

that bandcamp list may be the one with the most overlap with my best of the year. i'm also really enjoying the terrace martin right now.

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Friday, 9 December 2016 22:17 (two months ago) Permalink

The Textura list is always a good one for the experimental side of 'modern classical'/jazz/ambient.

Siegbran, Friday, 9 December 2016 23:10 (two months ago) Permalink

Here's Cosmo (Eliza Thompson): http://www.cosmopolitan.com/entertainment/music/a8480730/best-albums-of-2016/

Nice list but not quite the breath of fresh air it was in 2014 and 2015.

dorsalstop, Saturday, 10 December 2016 00:04 (two months ago) Permalink

2016 was the year the rest of the music critics finally caught up to cosmo

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Saturday, 10 December 2016 00:22 (two months ago) Permalink

Fact has some tracks lists

http://www.factmag.com/2016/12/04/best-grime-uk-rap-tracks-2016

20. Avelino - Rich Soul
19. Jammz - It’s a London Thing
18. Bugzy Malone - Gone Clear
17. MIST - Ain’t The Same
16. Belly Squad - Moves
15. Elf Kid - Golden Boy
14. Capo Lee feat. D Double E - Mud
13. Cho feat. Stefflon Don - Popalik
12. Kojo Funds x Abra Cadabra - Dun Talkin
12. P Money feat. Blacks, AJ Tracey, PK, Capo Lee, Saf One, Coco, Jammz & Discarda - 10/10 Remix
11. Dave vs AJ Tracey - Thiago Silva
10. C Biz - The Game’s Mine
9. Nadia Rose - Skwod
8. Skepta - Man
7. Dave - Wanna Know
6. Stormzy - Scary
5. 67 feat. Giggs - Let’s Lurk
4. J Hus - Friendly
3. Giggs - Whippin Excursion
2. Sir Spyro feat. Teddy Bruckshot, Lady Chann & Killa P - Topper Top
1. Abra Cadabra feat. Krept & Konan - Robbery Remix

http://www.factmag.com/2016/12/03/best-club-tracks-2016-astral-plane

Abdu Ali - Did Dat
Aïsha Devi - Mazdâ (Mind:Body:Fitness Remix)
Amnesia Scanner - AS WANT IT
Ase Manual - Body Drop (Trina’s Theme)
Byrell The Great - Bubble Drip’ (feat. Kassandra Ebony, WARREN B., Princess Precious)
Celestial Trax - I Can Do It Too (feat. Roosevelt)
CHINO AMOBI AND NATASHA BEDINGFIELD DISCUSS VAGINAL ARCHITECTURE w/ TOTAL FREEFALL
Citizen Boy - Tribute To DSB
DJ Haram - SO FUCKING FUNNY (soap) (feat. Moor Mother Goddess)
DVA [HI:EMOTIONS] - DAFUQ’ (feat. Sinjin Hawke)
Equiknoxx - Bubble (feat. Devin di Dakta)
Gage - Talon’s Reach
KABLAM - Arch
M.E.S.H. - Follow and Mute
MM - Why You All In My Face
Moro - Salve Sua Vida
Nidia Minaj - Olha Agora
Nkisi - Mokonzi
Nooran Sisters - Teri Duniya (Balasa Drum Mix)
Rihanna - Sex With Me’ (Acemula & SBF Club Remix)
Schwarz - Take A Picture (feat. Blaqstarr, Berko Lover & Greydolff)
SKY H1 - Air
Soda Plains - Rodeo
Tomasa del Real - Tu Señora (feat. Talisto)
Zíur - Collar Bone

Number None, Saturday, 10 December 2016 11:11 (two months ago) Permalink

that uk rap tracks list absolutely screams "mild panic in the office after kenny allstar factmix" but i guess let's not quibble about them vaguely representing reality for a blessed change

r|t|c, Saturday, 10 December 2016 15:52 (two months ago) Permalink

mcquaid been super cringe about it for a while earlier too in fairness

r|t|c, Saturday, 10 December 2016 15:53 (two months ago) Permalink

a real nice writeup on the stereogum jazz list too

niels, Saturday, 10 December 2016 16:17 (two months ago) Permalink

top quavo features

travis scott ft. quavo & YT - "pick up the phone"
YT ft. quavo, offset & young scooter - "guwop"
YT ft. quavo - “F cancer"
DJ mustard ft. quavo & YG - "want her"
kanye west, gucci, big sean, 2chainz & quavo - "champions"
PnB rock (ft a boogie wit da bad name & quavo) - "playa no more"
goodrich pablo juan ft. quavo - "designer drugz"
murda beatz ft. quavo - “my pockets”
2 chainz ft. quavo & cucci - "good drank"
trouble ft. quavo - "whatchu doin”
lil yachty ft. quavo - "no hook"
murda beatz ft. quavo - "trapstar"
devin hill ft. quavo - "why you hatin"
DJ stevie J ft. migos - "heard ah that”
gucci ft. quavo - "floor seats"
YFN lucci ft quavo, lil wayne & 2chainz - "key to the streets (remix)"
blac youngsta ft. quavo - "come thru"
ty dolla $ign ft. quavo - "long time"
meek mill ft. quavo & desiigner - "the difference"

||||||||, Saturday, 10 December 2016 16:49 (two months ago) Permalink

Reminds me of that all-Nicki rap verse mix that I also never heard because it's streaming only

Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, 10 December 2016 18:29 (two months ago) Permalink

http://www.thefader.com/2016/12/06/best-of-quavo-2016-mix-elz-the-dj-pick-up-the-phone-dab-of-ranch
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Saturday, 10 December 2016 18:23 (twenty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

||||||||, Saturday, 10 December 2016 18:46 (two months ago) Permalink

It's not a spreadsheet, but I did make a playlist of the Spotifiable albums on the Quietus albums list.
https://open.spotify.com/user/wmcrump/playlist/40uFK8diivR469HBV2bgd0
*runs away*

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Sunday, 11 December 2016 00:05 (two months ago) Permalink

Unacceptable unless presented as meter data

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Sunday, 11 December 2016 01:43 (two months ago) Permalink

Last Rites:

25. HELCARAXË – THE LAST BATTLE
24. ASPHYX – INCOMING DEATH
23. INVERLOCH – DISTANCE | COLLAPSED
22. OPETH – SORCERESS
21. NUCLEUS – SENTIENT
20. KHTHONIIK CERVIIKS – SEROLOGIIKAL SCARS
19. TREES OF ETERNITY – HOUR OF THE NIGHTINGALE
18. FATES WARNING – THEORIES OF FLIGHT
17. CHTHE'ILIST – LE DERNIER CRÉPUSCULE
16. SPIRITUS MORTIS – THE YEAR IS ONE
15. MESHUGGAH – THE VIOLENT SLEEP OF REASON
14. WORMED – KRIGHSU
13. INSOMNIUM – WINTER'S GATE
12. ORANSSI PAZUZU – VÄRÄHTELIJÄ
11. ANAAL NATHRAKH – THE WHOLE OF THE LAW
10. DARKTHRONE – ARCTIC THUNDER
9. INTER ARMA – PARADISE GALLOWS
8. HAMMERS OF MISFORTUNE – DEAD REVOLUTION
7. MOONSORROW – JUMALTEN AIKA
6. SUBROSA – FOR THIS WE FOUGHT THE BATTLE OF AGES
5. DEVIN TOWNSEND PROJECT – TRANSCENDENCE
4. KATATONIA – THE FALL OF HEARTS
3. BLOOD INCANTATION – STARSPAWN
2. VEKTOR – TERMINAL REDUX
1. MITHRAS – ON STRANGE LOOPS

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Sunday, 11 December 2016 06:03 (two months ago) Permalink

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/07/arts/music/best-songs.html?action=click&contentCollection=Music&module=RelatedCoverage®ion=EndOfArticle&pgtype=article

Jon Pareles has at his #9 slot: 9. iLe “Caníbal” (Sony Music Latin) Ileana Cabra, who has sung with Calle 13, goes dramatically retro, complete with string section, to equate unrequited love and cannibalism.

Jon Caramanica has : 6. Ayo Jay “Your Number” (One Nation/RCA) This Nigerian-raised singer had the song of the summer that wasn’t.

Nate Chinen #9. Miranda Lambert “Vice” (Vanner/RCA Nashville) Ms. Lambert girds this rueful anthem with steely fatalism, rooted in the belief that every mistake is yours to own, however many times.

curmudgeon, Sunday, 11 December 2016 19:40 (two months ago) Permalink

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/07/arts/music/best-albums.html

curmudgeon, Sunday, 11 December 2016 19:43 (two months ago) Permalink

Caramanica's continued refusal to acknowledge that Solange's album exists is... understandable, but a bit weird.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Sunday, 11 December 2016 20:19 (two months ago) Permalink

what makes you say that? i must've missed something.

alpine static, Sunday, 11 December 2016 22:50 (two months ago) Permalink

Caramanica shaded Solange in an NYT podcast and Solange tweeted at length about how hurt and offended she was by his comments. "Don't You Wait" is inspired in part by the comment he made iirc

art baengels (monotony), Monday, 12 December 2016 00:32 (two months ago) Permalink

I haven't heard the Solange album and likely never will, but Caramanica is an idiot with shitty taste.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Monday, 12 December 2016 06:00 (two months ago) Permalink

Well, she has basically said that the whole album is her response to that shade, so not responding does seem kind of petty. That being said, I do like Caramanica, and not saying anything > panning it, I guess. Animosity from an artist has been known to influence how you perceived that artist's work. But to the extent that he influenced one of the AOTYs, I guess he should be... proud?

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Monday, 12 December 2016 07:40 (two months ago) Permalink

Caramanica shaded Solange in an NYT podcast and Solange tweeted at length about how hurt and offended she was by his comments. "Don't You Wait" is inspired in part by the comment he made iirc

― art baengels (monotony), Monday, December 12, 2016 12:32 AM (nine hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

what were the details? completely missed every bit of this at the time

lex pretend, Monday, 12 December 2016 09:58 (two months ago) Permalink

oops sorry, longneck's article is essentially the same as the one i posted

art baengels (monotony), Monday, 12 December 2016 10:50 (two months ago) Permalink

Mixmag tracks

1. Midland - Final Credits
2. Lapsley - Operator (DJ Koze Extended Disco version)
3. Lindstrom - Closing Shot
4. Kolsch - Grey
5. Floorplan - Tell You No Lie
6. Isaac Tichauer - Higher Level (Bicep Remix)
7. Omar-S - Heard Chew Single
8. Jessy Lanza - It Means I Love You
9. Blaze - Lovelee Dae (Bicep Remix)
10. Avalon Emerson - The Frontier
11. Denis Sulta - Nein Fortiate
12. Dele Sosimi & Afrobeat Orchestra - Too Much Information (Laolu Remix)
13. Bruce Trail - Bridgework
14. Justice - Safe And Sound
15. Anohni - Drone Bomb Me
16. Lee Walker vs DJ Deeon - Freak Like Me
17. Skepta - Man
18. Red Rack'Em - Wonky Bassline Disco Banger
19. Pearson Sound - XLB
20. The Avalanches - If I Was A Folkstar
21. Makaton - Defiler (Repeat Offender mix)
22. Kornel Kovacs - BB
23. A Sagittariun - Concrete Walls
24. Shura (Four Tet Remix)
25. Harvey Sutherland - Bravado

http://mixmag.net/feature/top-100-tracks-2016/

nashwan, Monday, 12 December 2016 14:23 (two months ago) Permalink

that avalon emerson single should be #1 (midland is a strange and boring choice)

lex pretend, Monday, 12 December 2016 15:04 (two months ago) Permalink

the 30 best drone releases you've never heard:

http://antigravitybunny.com/?p=10849

scott seward, Monday, 12 December 2016 15:13 (two months ago) Permalink

excellent, thanks

sleeve, Monday, 12 December 2016 15:28 (two months ago) Permalink

Ooh thanks for that Scott.

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 12 December 2016 15:36 (two months ago) Permalink

that Maja Ratkje thing sounds great

sleeve, Monday, 12 December 2016 15:37 (two months ago) Permalink

The Omar-S track at #7 in the Mixmag list is pretty much perfect.

Matt DC, Monday, 12 December 2016 15:50 (two months ago) Permalink

The Four Tet remixed Shura track is 'Touch' btw. Prefer the Tourist remix of her 'What's It Gonna Be?' to that though.

nashwan, Monday, 12 December 2016 15:54 (two months ago) Permalink

The Mixmag list is the best list out of any of these.

Mr. Snrub, Monday, 12 December 2016 16:12 (two months ago) Permalink

The Omar-S track at #7 in the Mixmag list is pretty much perfect.

― Matt DC, Monday, December 12, 2016 8:50 AM (twenty-seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Monday, 12 December 2016 16:18 (two months ago) Permalink

feel like the four tet shura remix is two years old but apparently it's not?

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Monday, 12 December 2016 16:18 (two months ago) Permalink

Fester's Lucky 13: 2016 Year-End Summary
http://fastnbulbous.com/lucky-16/

Top 100 Albums of 2016 | Spotify Mix | 2016 Breakdown: Genre Lists | Shows, Videos | Movies, Television, Books & Comics

01. Wolf People – Ruins
02. Syd Arthur – Apricity
03. Lola Colt – Twist Through The Fire
04. Khemmis – Hunted
05. Wovenhand – Star Treatment
06. Truckfighters – V
07. The Drones – Feelin Kinda Free
08. Blood Ceremony – Lord Of Misrule
09. Purson – Desire's Magic Theatre
10. Asteroid – III
11. Chris Forsyth & The Solar Motel Band – The Rarity of Experience
12. Thiago Nassif – Três
13. Blues Pills – Lady In Gold
14. Sir Robin & The Longbowmen – Sir Robin & The Longbowmen
15. Causa Sui – Return To Sky
16. Savages – Adore Life
17. Spirit Adrift – Chained To Oblivion
18. Male Gaze – King Leer
19. Deap Vally – Femejism
20. Wytch Hazel – Prelude
21. The Winstons – The Winstons
22. Drakkar Nowhere – Drakkar Nowhere
23. Madder Mortem – Red In Tooth And Claw
24. The Lucid Dream – Compulsion Songs
25. Tau – TAU TAU TAU
26. Hexvessel – When We Are Death
27. Hammers Of Misfortune – Dead Revolution
28. Brimstone Coven – Black Magic
29. Messenger – Threnodies
30. And Also The Trees – Born Into The Waves
31. Knifeworld – Bottled Out Of Eden
32. Radiohead – A Moon Shaped Pool
33. The Frightnrs – Nothing More To Say
34. The Eternals – Espiritu Zombi
35. PJ Harvey – The Hope Six Demolition Project
36. Swans – The Glowing Man
37. Josefin Öhrn + The Liberation – Mirage
38. Sumerlands – Sumerlands
39. Preoccupations – Preoccupations
40. Ed Harcourt – Furnaces
41. Os Noctàmbulos – Stranger
42. Anciients – Voice Of The Void
43. Suns Of Thyme – Cascades
44. White Denim – Stiff
45. 40 Watt Sun – Wider Than The Sky
46. Witchcraft – Nucleus
47. The Well – Pagan Science
48. Electric Citizen – Higher Time
49. Thee Oh Sees – A Weird Exits
50. Levitation Room – Ethos
51. Morgan Delt – Phase Zero
52. Motorpsycho – Here Be Monsters
53. Baby Woodrose – Freedom
54. Spidergawd – III
55. Greenleaf – Rise Above The Meadow
56. Kremlin – I
57. Black Mountain – IV
58. Kikagaku Moyo – House In The Tall Grass
59. JuJu – JuJu
60. Steve Lehman – Sélébéyone
61. Melt Yourself Down – Last Evenings On Earth
62. Dele Sosimi Meets Prince Fatty & Nostalgia 77 – You No Fit Touch Am in Dub
63. Night Beats – Who Sold My Generation
64. The Murlocs – Young Blindness
65. Hidden Trails – Instant Momentary Bliss
66. SubRosa – For This We Fought The Battle Of Ages
67. Crippled Black Phoenix – Bronze
68. Wo Fat – Midnight Cometh
69. Dinosaur Jr. – Give A Glimpse Of What Yer Not
70. Dark Suns – Everchild
71. Opeth – Sorceress
72. The Mystery Lights – The Mystery Lights
73. Troll – Troll
74. Camera – Phantom Of Liberty
75. A Tribe Called Quest – We Got It from Here... Thank You 4 Your Service
76. Greg Ward & 10 Tongues – Touch My Beloved's Thought
77. Marching Church – Telling It Like It Is
78. Goatess – Purgatory Under New Management
79. Lord Vicar – Gates Of Flesh
80. Cardinals Folly – Holocaust Of Ecstasy & Freedom
81. Elkhorn – Elkhorn
82. Dunbarrow – Dunbarrow
83. Noura Mint Seymali – Arbina
84. Testament – Brotherhood Of The Snake
85. Metallica – Hardwired...To Self Destruct
86. Wardruna – Runaljod: Ragnarok
87. Castle – Welcome To The Graveyard
88. VUM – Cryptocrystalline
89. Hypnos – Cold Winds
90. Mars Red Sky – Apex III (Praise For The Burning Soul)
91. King Gizzard & The Lizard Wizard – Nonagon Infinity
92. Abayomy Afrobeat Orquestra – Abra Sua Cabeça
93. Emma Ruth Rundle – Marked For Death
94. Anthony Joseph – Caribbean Roots
95. Goat – Requiem
96. Blaak Heat – Shifting Mirrors
97. Dreamtime – Strange Pleasures
98. The Hazytones – The Hazytones
99. Gojira – Magma
100. Jenny Besetzt – Tender Madness

Fastnbulbous, Monday, 12 December 2016 16:27 (two months ago) Permalink

that is a p cool psych/doom/garage list with ATCQ hilariously shoehorned in

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 12 December 2016 16:35 (two months ago) Permalink

Mixmag first 25 tracks Spotify playlist

Siegbran, Monday, 12 December 2016 16:39 (two months ago) Permalink

list of lists:

http://redef.com/set/music-set-1480318757660

fact checking cuz, Monday, 12 December 2016 16:47 (two months ago) Permalink

I aim to please, Simon. You might also find it hilarious that there are "token" representatives of singer/songwriters (Ed Harcourt), Afrobeat Dub (Dele Sosimi Meets Prince Fatty & Nostalgia 77), kosmische (Josefin Öhrn + The Liberation, Camera), jazz (Greg Ward & 10 Tongues) and Toureg (Noura Mint Seymali) among others. Or you can click on the f**king genre lists link if it's too jarring for your brain to process multiple genres at once.

Fastnbulbous, Monday, 12 December 2016 16:55 (two months ago) Permalink

73. Troll – Troll

I take it this isn't a reissue of the Norwegian 80s girl group?

Siegbran, Monday, 12 December 2016 16:56 (two months ago) Permalink

sorry for offense incurred FNB, just thought it was funny xp

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 12 December 2016 16:57 (two months ago) Permalink

The Omar-S track at #7 in the Mixmag list is pretty much perfect.

― Matt DC, Monday, December 12, 2016 8:50 AM (twenty-seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm

― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Monday, December 12, 2016 11:18 AM (forty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

album is good too

I've read Ta-nehisi Coates. (marcos), Monday, 12 December 2016 17:01 (two months ago) Permalink

Np. But I do want to point out that I do have a complete Hip Hop & Rap list after the jump. Also, my top album in that category is actually Steve Lehman – Sélébéyone. Every year I get at least one sneering comment about my choices in that particular group, as if I'm not allowed to list my favorites because I listen to other genres.

Fastnbulbous, Monday, 12 December 2016 17:06 (two months ago) Permalink

The other thing was I just saw the list and not that it was yours/an individual's - most of the ones here have been from mags or groups, so I instantly (wrongly) assumed it was a quirk of consensus.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 12 December 2016 17:08 (two months ago) Permalink

73. Troll – Troll

I take it this isn't a reissue of the Norwegian 80s girl group?

― Siegbran

or the demo tape by the '80s zeuhl group

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Monday, 12 December 2016 17:11 (two months ago) Permalink

that is a p cool psych/doom/garage list with ATCQ hilariously shoehorned in

― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.)

c'mon it samples spinetta, it's not _that_ much of a stretch!

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Monday, 12 December 2016 17:13 (two months ago) Permalink

The other thing was I just saw the list and not that it was yours/an individual's - most of the ones here have been from mags or groups, so I instantly (wrongly) assumed it was a quirk of consensus.

That is a common assumption, but there are more lists driven by a single person than you'd think. I've been doing this over a couple decades, and posting in these annual threads for many years, hopefully most don't mind.

xp I bet a playlist of all the dozens of bands named Troll over the years would be pretty fun!

Fastnbulbous, Monday, 12 December 2016 17:27 (two months ago) Permalink

SPIN:

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 12 December 2016 18:44 (two months ago) Permalink

Resident Advisor - Top 20 Albums
https://www.residentadvisor.net/features/2859

Rae Kwoniff (NickB), Monday, 12 December 2016 19:31 (two months ago) Permalink

^ some good records but i'm not really feeling it tbh

Rae Kwoniff (NickB), Monday, 12 December 2016 19:31 (two months ago) Permalink

that convextion album rules

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Monday, 12 December 2016 19:32 (two months ago) Permalink

uber lame that they felt the need to stick Radiohead on there

Number None, Monday, 12 December 2016 19:43 (two months ago) Permalink

i forgot that that kyle hall album came out this year, thought it came late last year. i loved it.

I've read Ta-nehisi Coates. (marcos), Monday, 12 December 2016 20:02 (two months ago) Permalink

it in fact did come out last year

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Monday, 12 December 2016 20:04 (two months ago) Permalink

yeah the vinyl came out in December 2015. Might have got a digital release later though

Number None, Monday, 12 December 2016 20:06 (two months ago) Permalink

ah ok!

I've read Ta-nehisi Coates. (marcos), Monday, 12 December 2016 20:06 (two months ago) Permalink

no harm in highlighting a December release though. Considering they're usually consigned to oblivion

Number None, Monday, 12 December 2016 20:06 (two months ago) Permalink

yeah i was gonna make that point too. publications pretty much don't exist for half of december anyway

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Monday, 12 December 2016 20:07 (two months ago) Permalink

Pusha T's album, which has been mostly forgotten, came out very mid December last year and it made my 2016 list.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 12 December 2016 20:08 (two months ago) Permalink

That RA list is weird this year. I expect a list more centered on techno/house and having artists like Radiohead and Jessy Lanza in there sort of breaks the 'specialized" feeling their year long reviews have.

Moka, Monday, 12 December 2016 20:09 (two months ago) Permalink

can i put kyle hall on my 2016 ilx ballot then y/n

I've read Ta-nehisi Coates. (marcos), Monday, 12 December 2016 20:09 (two months ago) Permalink

The aquariumdrunkard list is massive and has some amazing records in there which I haven't seen mentioned elsewhere.

Moka, Monday, 12 December 2016 20:11 (two months ago) Permalink

That RA list is very dull.

Matt DC, Monday, 12 December 2016 20:16 (two months ago) Permalink

The aquariumdrunkard list is massive and has some amazing records in there which I haven't seen mentioned elsewhere.

plus Radiohead!

Number None, Monday, 12 December 2016 20:17 (two months ago) Permalink

(definitely going to check out some stuff from that list)

Number None, Monday, 12 December 2016 20:17 (two months ago) Permalink

I don't think anyone's posted the American Songwriter list yet:

https://americansongwriter.com/2016/12/top-50-albums-2016/

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Monday, 12 December 2016 20:21 (two months ago) Permalink

xp I bet a playlist of all the dozens of bands named Troll over the years would be pretty fun!

― Fastnbulbous

i once made a mixtape of metal bands named legion. it was pretty rad.

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Monday, 12 December 2016 20:22 (two months ago) Permalink

The aquariumdrunkard list is massive and has some amazing records in there which I haven't seen mentioned elsewhere.

― Moka

it doesn't seem to differentiate new releases and archival releases? okay yeah yoko's _plastic ono band_ is a great record, but filing it next to frank ocean seems a bit strange.

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Monday, 12 December 2016 20:27 (two months ago) Permalink

Aquariumdrunkard lists are always like that. Lots of reissues and archival.

Moka, Monday, 12 December 2016 20:46 (two months ago) Permalink

RA list just confirms that i'm really not missing anything by skipping out on that site

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Monday, 12 December 2016 21:59 (two months ago) Permalink

Did we post the Wire list yet? 1-10 is Bowie/Shirley/Moor Mother/Autechre/NIck Cave/Jenny Hval/Noura/Yves Tumor/Gaika/Mark Ernestus.

wanderly braggin' (seandalai), Monday, 12 December 2016 22:39 (two months ago) Permalink

Seems to still be the Spirits Rejoice! issue in the shops.

djh, Monday, 12 December 2016 23:08 (two months ago) Permalink

exacteditions doesnt have it either

Cosmic Slop, Monday, 12 December 2016 23:20 (two months ago) Permalink

Nobody posted the Radio X list then? Well, fair enough. But just so we get a sense of balance, here we go.

http://www.radiox.co.uk/x-lists/best-albums-all-time/the-best-albums-of-2016/

It's not quite as bad as last year, but still...

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Monday, 12 December 2016 23:35 (two months ago) Permalink

Erlewine: http://sterlewine.tumblr.com/post/154403710650/top-100-albums-of-2016

10. The Monkees—Good Times
58. ABC–Lexicon Of Love II
100. Kanye West—Life of Pablo

geoffreyess, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 03:44 (two months ago) Permalink

Pitchfork:
http://pitchfork.com/features/lists-and-guides/9980-the-50-best-albums-of-2016

Top 10:

1. Solange - A Seat at the Table
2. Frank Ocean - Blonde
3. Beyonce - Lemonade
4. David Bowie - Blackstar
5. Kanye West - The Life of Pablo
6. Chance the Rapper - Coloring Book
7. A Tribe Called Quest - We Got It From Here...
8. ANOHNI - Hopelessness
9. Angel Olsen - My Woman
10. Radiohead - A Moon-Shaped Pool

Wozniak on Kimye's Baby (jaymc), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 06:30 (two months ago) Permalink

RA list is kinda depressing, it's weird too because I've found loads of great music on their site this year and was of the impression that they had started to come into their own a bit.

MikoMcha, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 06:38 (two months ago) Permalink

Just read the Pitchfork and SPIN lists, and it's amazing how similar they are to each other. Not just the same #1, but every single album in P4k's top 20 is in SPIN's top 30, just shuffled around. But there's one major difference: SPIN put the 1975 at #5, and it's nowhere in the P4k top 50.

Wozniak on Kimye's Baby (jaymc), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 07:00 (two months ago) Permalink

I refuse to believe so many people actually like the Life of Pablo or rate is anything more than an obvious bodge job.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 08:07 (two months ago) Permalink

I refuse to believe so many people actually like [art I dislike] = nagl

niels, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 08:15 (two months ago) Permalink

I can understand liking it or finding its flaws sort of interesting but when Kanye's worst album by far is appearing as the top rap album of 2016 in multiple lists it suggests there's something else happening here.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 09:59 (two months ago) Permalink

The People Have Spoken.

Siegbran, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 10:10 (two months ago) Permalink

Textura lists now up: http://textura.org/archives/articles/2016top10s.htm

doug watson, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 10:48 (two months ago) Permalink

Always good to see a list from another universe. Hedvig Mollestad Trio sounds cool!

wanderly braggin' (seandalai), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 11:28 (two months ago) Permalink

Hedvig Mollestad's Nordic labelmates Bushman's Revenge are good as well.

calzino, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 11:39 (two months ago) Permalink

excellent list is that

calzino, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 11:41 (two months ago) Permalink

I think Matt DC is saying that Russian hackers are responsible for Kanye'a strong performance.

Tim F, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 11:57 (two months ago) Permalink

heh? next you'll be saying Bradley Wiggins is a drugs cheat :p

calzino, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 12:05 (two months ago) Permalink

Really bold of Textura to put Kanye at #1 this year

Evan, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 13:27 (two months ago) Permalink

seems this is the year everyone got off the Wild Beasts bus. album was jaw droppingly bad IMO.

piscesx, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 14:08 (two months ago) Permalink

liked the single a lot but yeah the album just went in one ear out the other

nashwan, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 14:20 (two months ago) Permalink

I really like about half of it tbh, "2BU" and the bonus track "Maze" are beauts

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 14:22 (two months ago) Permalink

I've been so torn on that Tignor album that's topping the Texture list all year. Its really beautiful but seems almost too easy. Like that, the Eluvium and the Ben Lukas Boyson are all so gorgeous but so effortless that it seems... suspicious? I like them all on a purely visceral level, but every time I sit down with them, it feels almost tropey

Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 15:27 (two months ago) Permalink

"I can understand liking it or finding its flaws sort of interesting but when Kanye's worst album by far is appearing as the top rap album of 2016 in multiple lists it suggests there's something else happening here."

Pitchfork put it at number 5 iirc. I'm starting to think Kanye owns 50% of Pitchfork or something, they keep giving him 10.0 or 9.5 ratings no matter how bad his records get.

jon123, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 15:56 (two months ago) Permalink

I listened to the Ben Lukas Boyson record at the weekend and it sounded gorgeous but in a very predictable way, like it was his pitch for soundtracking a Scandinavian murder mystery series set in a photogenic small town where everyone has a dark secret from 20 years ago.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 15:56 (two months ago) Permalink

12. Dele Sosimi & Afrobeat Orchestra - Too Much Information (Laolu Remix)

FWIW this is brilliant.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 15:56 (two months ago) Permalink

the Kanye album is #4 in the guardian list

Cosmic Slop, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 15:58 (two months ago) Permalink

12. Dele Sosimi & Afrobeat Orchestra - Too Much Information (Laolu Remix)

FWIW this is brilliant.

hell yeah it is

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 16:06 (two months ago) Permalink

Just a wee reminder that voting finishes on friday
ILM METAL ALBUMS POLL 2016 VOTING AND CAMPAIGNING THREAD. [Voting ends Friday December 16 11.59pm GMT]

Cosmic Slop, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 16:10 (two months ago) Permalink

Have we had FACT's Top 50 yet?

Lots of stuff still to discover from that list, for me.

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 16:16 (two months ago) Permalink

Here is the complete list from The Wire:

1. David Bowie – Blackstar
2. Shirley Collins – Lodestar
3. Moor Mother – Fetish Bones
4. Autechre – elseq 1-5
5. Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds – The Skeleton Tree
6. Jenny Hval – Blood Bitch
7. Noura Mint Seymali – Arbina
8. Yves Tumor – Serpent Music
9. Gaika – Security
10. Mark Ernestus' Ndagga Rhythm Force – Yermande
11. Gate – Saturday Night Fever
12. Solange – A Seat At The Table
13. Kanye West – The Life of Pablo
14. Oren Ambarchi – Hubris
15. Babyfather – BBF Hosted By DJ Escrow
16. 75 Dollar Bill – Wood/Metal/Plastic/Pattern/Rhythm/Rock
17. Anna Meredith – Varmints
18. Kaitlyn Aurelia Smith – EARS
19. A Tribe Called Quest – We Got It From Here...Thank You 4 Your Service
20. Carla dal Forno – You Know What It's Like
21. David Toop – Entities Inertias Faint Beings
22. Leonard Cohen – You Want It Darker
23. Kendrick Lamar – Untitled Unmastered
24. Idris Ackamoor & The Pyramids – We Be All Africans
25. Laura Cannell – Simultaneous Flight Movement
26. Ectoplasm Girs – New Feeling Come
27. Steve Gunn – Eyes On The Lines
28. Ian William Craig – Centres
29. Matmos – Ultimate Care II
30. Laraaji & Sun Araw – Professional Sunflow
31. Scott Walker – The Childhood Of A Leader OST
32. Bitchin Bajas And Bonnie 'Prince' Billy – Epic Jammers And Fortunate Little Ditties
33. Elysia Crampton – Elysia Crampton Presents: Demon City
34. Katie Gately – Color
35. Shackleton with Ernesto Tomasini – Devotional Songs
36. Anxiety – Anxiety
37. Skepta – Konnichiwa
38. Puce Mary – The Spiral
39. The Dwarfs Of East Agouza – Bes
40. Catherine Christer Hennix – Live At Issue Project Room
41. Horse Lords – Interventions
42. Roy Montgomery – R M H Q
43. Frank Ocean – Blonde
44. Thalia Zedek Band – Eve
45. Charlemagne Palestine – Cathédrale De Strasbourg
46. Ben Johnston – String Quartets 6, 7 & 8
47. Jackie Lynn – Jackie Lynn
48. Zomby – Ultra
49. Klara Lewis – Too
50. Peder Mannerfelt – Controlling Body

Dan S, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 17:09 (two months ago) Permalink

12. Dele Sosimi & Afrobeat Orchestra - Too Much Information (Laolu Remix)

FWIW this is brilliant.

hell yeah it is

― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, December 13, 2016 4:06 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yup

did you guys hear èbony's "real love"? thought that was a shoe-in for all the electronic tracks lists

lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 17:17 (two months ago) Permalink

from p4k list "After seven LPs, Rihanna finally made a great album, rather than a collection of zeitgeist-dominating bangers surrounded by filler. " did i miss something? i thought everybody felt that anti was the same patchy thing as all the others

I've read Ta-nehisi Coates. (marcos), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 17:22 (two months ago) Permalink

ppl felt that way on this site but pretty much nowhere else in my experience

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 17:29 (two months ago) Permalink

yeah i'm very confused that became the accepted anti narrative (well...not confused so much given how hard the line was pushed to start with)

lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 17:30 (two months ago) Permalink

ppl felt that way on this site but pretty much nowhere else in my experience

― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, December 13, 2016 12:29 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Describes my ilx experience with almost any topic

Evan, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 17:34 (two months ago) Permalink

did you guys hear èbony's "real love"? thought that was a shoe-in for all the electronic tracks lists

it's "real truth" right? anyway i hadn't heard it but ohhhhhhhh my god

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 17:35 (two months ago) Permalink

yeah "real truth"!

lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 17:55 (two months ago) Permalink

SPIN put the 1975 at #5, and it's nowhere in the P4k top 50.

Well, at least that's one thing that Pitchfork got right.

Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 18:05 (two months ago) Permalink

Turrican is relentless, man

alpine static, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 18:09 (two months ago) Permalink

he's a lot of things -less

banfred bann (wins), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 18:22 (two months ago) Permalink

you'll never know what he'll say next. "he said WHAT?!" "yeah, you heard me" folds arms

Evan, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 18:26 (two months ago) Permalink

Nice to see Erlewine's influence on the Spin list pushing Maren Morris and Miranda Lambert into the top 50. Two of my favorites.

Also nice to finally see the Cymbals Eat Guitars album make a list. Probably not going to get the ilm crowd excited, but essentially a little messier version of the same 80s rock inspired album Spoon did on their last album.

Thanks for posting the mixmag list!

Indexed, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 18:28 (two months ago) Permalink

what is this babyfather cover art?

Indexed, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 18:29 (two months ago) Permalink

I've been so torn on that Tignor album that's topping the Texture list all year. Its really beautiful but seems almost too easy. Like that, the Eluvium and the Ben Lukas Boyson are all so gorgeous but so effortless that it seems... suspicious? I like them all on a purely visceral level, but every time I sit down with them, it feels almost tropey

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, December 13, 2016 10:27 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Agreed. Scandanavian Murder Mysteries was said upthread for Boyson, I feel like I am hearing the scores to all of the fantasy movies I watched when I was young in the Tignor.

Will (kruezer2), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 18:44 (two months ago) Permalink

I had a music teacher ruin Max Richter for me because he said the compositions were very obvious

Evan, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 18:46 (two months ago) Permalink

Easily predictable, common.

Evan, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 18:49 (two months ago) Permalink

not enough Jamila Woods on these lists

alpine static, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 19:12 (two months ago) Permalink

Nice to see Erlewine's influence on the Spin list pushing Maren Morris and Miranda Lambert into the top 50. Two of my favorites.

― Indexed, Tuesday, December 13, 2016 1:28 PM

SPIN's been covering country for years, though.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 19:19 (two months ago) Permalink

from p4k list "After seven LPs, Rihanna finally made a great album, rather than a collection of zeitgeist-dominating bangers surrounded by filler. " did i miss something? i thought everybody felt that anti was the same patchy thing as all the others

― I've read Ta-nehisi Coates. (marcos)

Obviously they're forgetting that Rated R exists.

Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 19:26 (two months ago) Permalink

"Here is the complete list from The Wire:"

well it's kind of a relief that the wire has just decided to like the records everybody else likes instead of holding out on this notion of "avant garde" consisting mainly of 70-something europeans.

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 19:28 (two months ago) Permalink

"Releasing a nearly eight-minute track as a single is a bit like publishing 8,000 words on the internet and expecting everyone to read it start to finish."

emma i'm sorry nobody reads your thinkpieces but complaining about it in a blurb for an angel olsen song seems... performative.

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 19:35 (two months ago) Permalink

there is not nearly enough going on in that angel olsen song for it to be compared to 8,000 words

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 19:36 (two months ago) Permalink

i mean, the space is why it's good

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 19:36 (two months ago) Permalink

"The final crescendo is as satisfying as a good shit."

ah

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 19:38 (two months ago) Permalink

someone's aggregating these this year, right? any chance we can get an update?

alpine static, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 19:46 (two months ago) Permalink

12. Dele Sosimi & Afrobeat Orchestra - Too Much Information (Laolu Remix)

FWIW this is brilliant.

hell yeah it is

― who is extreme

yeah this struck me as the best thing on the Mixmag list - the Koze remix and 'The Frontier' also nice tho

nashwan, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 19:47 (two months ago) Permalink

SPIN's been covering country for years, though.

― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, December 13, 2016 1:19 PM (thirty-six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

True, but I thought last year's list was especially indie-rock heavy? I only remember Kacey Musgraves making their list. Maybe it was just the year.

Indexed, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 19:59 (two months ago) Permalink

The album cover transition from 38 to 37 on Spin's list of songs makes a good mini-narrative.

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 20:35 (two months ago) Permalink

interesting how the Suede record received great reviews but is afaict not showing on many lists

niels, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 21:09 (two months ago) Permalink

I liked in February, forgot about it, loved it in November. It's on mine.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 21:12 (two months ago) Permalink

well it's kind of a relief that the wire has just decided to like the records everybody else likes instead of holding out on this notion of "avant garde" consisting mainly of 70-something europeans.

When did The Wire do this, really? Even looking at these, Robert Wyatt is the only person who could come close to fitting that description.

My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 21:15 (two months ago) Permalink

Unless you're being sarcastic, in which case, yeah, I'd like to see someone still rep for the proper European avant-garde as well.

My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 21:18 (two months ago) Permalink

interesting how the Suede record received great reviews but is afaict not showing on many lists
― niels, Tuesday, December 13, 2016 9:09 PM (eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I liked in February, forgot about it, loved it in November. It's on mine.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, December 13, 2016 9:12 PM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It's one of my most listened to records this year. I liked Bloodsports just fine, but Night Thoughts was their best album in years.

Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 21:20 (two months ago) Permalink

As I've done in the last few years, I've made a Spotify playlist that aggregates a bunch of best-songs lists (Pitchfork, Spin, Rolling Stone, Billboard, NME, Entertainment Weekly, Paste, Consequence of Sound, PopMatters, Time, NPR, Vulture, etc.). Currently at about 450 songs. More to come?

https://open.spotify.com/user/seaworthyset/playlist/6H2kytqHfA8bTFNOUPjm9x

Wozniak on Kimye's Baby (jaymc), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 21:31 (two months ago) Permalink

Night Thoughts is in my top 50 if not quite 25. 'I Don't Know How To Reach You' might be in my top 5 tracks though

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 21:38 (two months ago) Permalink

12. Dele Sosimi & Afrobeat Orchestra - Too Much Information (Laolu Remix)

FWIW this is brilliant.

hell yeah it is

― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, December 13, 2016 4:06 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yup

That 12" was actually from 2015. The dub album was this year, which is on my list. I can't find that Too Much Information in lossless anywhere, it's not on Bandcamp nor Boomkat. Any ideas?

https://delesosimi.bandcamp.com/album/you-no-fit-touch-am-in-dub-feat-prince-fatty-nostalgia-77

Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 21:39 (two months ago) Permalink

It's the big one you guys...

Ultimate Classic Rock - Best Albums of 2016
http://ultimateclassicrock.com/2016-best-rock-albums/

20. Eric Clapton, 'I Still Do'
19. Graham Nash, 'This Path Tonight'
18. Steven Tyler, 'We're All Somebody From Somewhere'
17. Neil Young & Promise of the Real, 'Earth'
16. Bob Weir, 'Blue Mountain'
15. Bonnie Raitt, 'Dig in Deep'
14. Jeff Beck, 'Loud Hailer'
13. Neil Young, 'Peace Trail'
12. Sting, '57th & 9th'
11. Elton John, 'Wonderful Crazy Night'

10. Bob Dylan, 'Fallen Angels'
9. The Monkees, 'Good Times!'
8. Iggy Pop, 'Post Pop Depression'
7. Mudcrutch, '2'
6. Green Day, 'Revolution Radio'
5. Metallica, 'Hardwired ... to Self-Destruct'
4. Leonard Cohen, 'You Want It Darker'
3. The Rolling Stones, 'Blue & Lonesome'
2. Paul Simon, 'Stranger to Stranger'
1. David Bowie, 'Blackstar'

Bee WOKE (NickB), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 22:36 (two months ago) Permalink

inclusion of bonnie raitt is some pc gone mad shit though

Bee WOKE (NickB), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 22:37 (two months ago) Permalink

who even knew all these geezers even put out new albums this year

Mordy, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 22:39 (two months ago) Permalink

Blackstar seems like a risqué #1 choice for 'Classic rock'. Kudos.

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 22:40 (two months ago) Permalink

in ten years they'll have nothing left but green day records

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 22:51 (two months ago) Permalink

the Bonnie Raitt album is wonderful, guys, jeez

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 22:53 (two months ago) Permalink

was gonna say

sleeve, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 22:55 (two months ago) Permalink

I was all 'who are these Mudcrutch kids' compared to the rest of the list, then looked them up.

nashwan, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 23:03 (two months ago) Permalink

Was just poking fun at the daring inclusion of a female, relax

Bee WOKE (NickB), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 23:03 (two months ago) Permalink

:)

also Mordy otm, I had no idea 75% of thee records existed

sleeve, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 23:05 (two months ago) Permalink

peace trail is a very weird record

maura, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 00:52 (two months ago) Permalink

That Jeff Beck album is worth hearing; it's a collaboration with a female guitarist and singer who work together as Bones, and it's loud and ugly like a latter-day Cult record. I've never been a Beck fan, but this one's worth a stream at least.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 02:31 (two months ago) Permalink

I like Jeff Beck a lot, including recent stuff, but I didn't get around to Loud Hailer yet. It's definitely on my list.

My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 02:42 (two months ago) Permalink

The average age of the artists in that Ultimate Classic Rock is a spritely 65.6. And that's only because the baby-faced Gen-Xers in Green Day (all 44) bring the average down. Otherwise it would be 68, including the young 52-54 yo upstarts in Metallica. It's understandable that baby boomers might be uncomfortable becoming fans of bands young enough to be their grandchildren, and it's cool that so many artists are remaining active into retirement age. But still, that list is kinda nuts.

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 06:24 (two months ago) Permalink

The Textura list upthread is fascinating if only because I do not know a single album in there (except for the Carl Stone compilation and that's one of the most esoteric albums in my collection. Shing Kee 1986 is mindblowing btw).

Anyone recognize at least one album from there? Anything worth listening?

Moka, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 08:38 (two months ago) Permalink

Also looking at their lists from previous years and whoa I know only two albums at most. The mixes/reissues/compilations I can identify half of the list but the yearly ones seem chosen by someone who lives in a cave (in a good way).

Would love to see them (him? her?) give a decade list a try. Would love to see their top 50 albums for every decade if they follow the same sort of offbeat selection.

Moka, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 08:46 (two months ago) Permalink

agreed Textura is one of the more interesting ones of these we've seen. i don't know much from it, though i do know Halvorson, Hammock, Causa Sui and Johanna Warren. lots of good stuff to dig into, yes.

Moka, if you're intrigued by that one, be sure to click on the Anti-Gravity Bunny list, too. unless you're a drone wizard, there'll be plenty to discover there, too, i'd imagine

alpine static, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 09:29 (two months ago) Permalink

Textura is always really good - I've heard a few of these (the Tignor, bvdub, Hammock, James Murray, Anne Garner, Hedvig Mollestad Trio - all excellent), and I know some of the other artists' earlier work but there's still a lot of totally unknown material to dive into. The music that Textura usually covers falls roughly within the triangle of modern/minimalist classical, experimental jazz and electronic/ambient.

Siegbran, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 10:31 (two months ago) Permalink

https://www.thelineofbestfit.com/features/listomania/fifty-best-albums-2016

So it is still possible for a relatively 'generalist' publication to produce a more interesting list. Some of the usual suspects appear, but lots of interest in the lower reaches.

Top 10: Jenny Hval, Danny Brown, Anna Meredith, Mitski, Bon Iver, Chance The Rapper, Shura, Skepta, The Radio Dept., ATCQ.

dorsalstop, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 11:00 (two months ago) Permalink

I love how that Classic Rock list begins "it was a great year for classic rock (except for everyone dying)..."

Matt DC, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 11:11 (two months ago) Permalink

"Tom Petty's other band, Mudcrutch..."

Matt DC, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 11:14 (two months ago) Permalink

Ah, thanks for the Textura list. That's the kind of thing I was looking for. Based in Peterborough!

My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 11:51 (two months ago) Permalink

perhaps Kendrick would've done better had he titled his songs this year

niels, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 12:19 (two months ago) Permalink

"untitled 03" is a jam but how would you know

niels, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 12:20 (two months ago) Permalink

The Textura list is great; I'm definitely going to start reading that site.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 12:33 (two months ago) Permalink

It's all about untitled 6 man

I know hoes that know Ali Farka Toure (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 14:13 (two months ago) Permalink

The average age of the artists in that Ultimate Classic Rock is a spritely 65.6. And that's only because the baby-faced Gen-Xers in Green Day (all 44) bring the average down. Otherwise it would be 68, including the young 52-54 yo upstarts in Metallica. It's understandable that baby boomers might be uncomfortable becoming fans of bands young enough to be their grandchildren, and it's cool that so many artists are remaining active into retirement age. But still, that list is kinda nuts.

― Fastnbulbous

i get that the list is easy to laugh at, but this is the market they cover. they're a specialist mag, and it's not really surprising that their year end list would be of albums in their specialty. i think it's a good list specifically _because_ nobody will else will acknowledge these records exist. and, as has been pointed out elsewhere in the thread, some of these records (the raitt and the jeff beck) are apparently pretty good. so they've gotten people to talk about good records nobody else is talking about. that's more than pitchfork's list has done!

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 14:37 (two months ago) Permalink

perhaps Kendrick would've done better had he titled his songs this year

― niels

if kendrick had put untitled unmastered out as a "proper" record he would've gotten all kinds of shit for putting out an album that sounds like outtakes from "to pimp a butterfly".

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 14:38 (two months ago) Permalink

re: the line of best fit list - since there seems to be a trend towards language policing around this time of year, can i humbly propose that we put the kibosh on "genre-queer"? or at least ask for some sort of explanation as to why PWR BTTM are "genre-queer" but Tengger Cavalry aren't?

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 14:46 (two months ago) Permalink

"genre-queer" is so performative woke

Position Position, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 14:59 (two months ago) Permalink

from Textura list, Buck Curran's album is really good

sleeve, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 15:08 (two months ago) Permalink

i get that the list is easy to laugh at, but this is the market they cover. they're a specialist mag, and it's not really surprising that their year end list would be of albums in their specialty. i think it's a good list specifically _because_ nobody will else will acknowledge these records exist. and, as has been pointed out elsewhere in the thread, some of these records (the raitt and the jeff beck) are apparently pretty good. so they've gotten people to talk about good records nobody else is talking about. that's more than pitchfork's list has done!

I mostly agree, except doesn't Classic Rock cover the same demographic, but at least acknowledge that there are younger bands that can still appeal to the older generations? Is Ultimate Classic Rock a different publisher? I can't tell, the URL is hanging right now.

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 15:12 (two months ago) Permalink

I'm going to repeat myself from last year's thread and be surprised and puzzled at the paucity of Dawn Richard placements on these lists. I can understand her not being top 10 (tho she is for me), but to not be in the top 50 on several of the lists is weird. She gets good reviews, I know critics know/like her, but then she just disappears. (Except for odd things like being #1 on Fader last year.)

birthday party, cheesecake, jelly beans, boom (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 15:22 (two months ago) Permalink

not that it would have mattered probably, but her album came out after most of these lists were already being compiled

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 15:26 (two months ago) Permalink

I mostly agree, except doesn't Classic Rock cover the same demographic, but at least acknowledge that there are younger bands that can still appeal to the older generations? Is Ultimate Classic Rock a different publisher? I can't tell, the URL is hanging right now.

― Fastnbulbous

it's nice that there are publications that want to proselytize to their fanbase and build a bridge to other kinds of music. arguably fiscally prudent, as well, although i suspect the "ultimate classic rock" demographic belong to the last generation that considers buying magazines in any way useful or important.

part of me just wants to give them a peaceful death. if they want to die thinking that eric clapton is the best guitar player of all time, just like their parents died loving lawrence welk and guy lombardo... let them. let ultimate classic rock magazine be the dead to bury the dead.

in the meantime, how about that bonnie raitt album?

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 15:27 (two months ago) Permalink

xp

Yeah, I'm sure that makes a difference. She'll probably crop up somewhere in the VV survey, whatever they're calling it this year.

birthday party, cheesecake, jelly beans, boom (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 15:28 (two months ago) Permalink

Fader has a 115 track list: http://www.thefader.com/2016/12/13/best-songs-of-2016-playlist

rob, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 16:24 (two months ago) Permalink

And they put #1 at the beginning og the list, far too kind

niels, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 17:15 (two months ago) Permalink

breaking threadban to deplore the fader's write-up of #1 and probably everything else about their ever-so right-on list

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 17:22 (two months ago) Permalink

that isn't actually right-on at all (see #1 write-up)

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 17:22 (two months ago) Permalink

look dad, no white people! so fucking brave

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 17:23 (two months ago) Permalink

if it was all POC then that'd be cool or w/e but no, there's motherfucking bon iver

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 17:36 (two months ago) Permalink

.... that's their no. 1?

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 17:40 (two months ago) Permalink

no their number one is rihanna, which is fine except it contains the words 'women are pure, wet temptation'

fuck the absolute false-woke hipster garbage that is the fader

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 17:43 (two months ago) Permalink

lol lj this list is really weird but i hardly think it demands that register of distaste

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 17:45 (two months ago) Permalink

(i was expressing surprise at "sex with me" being no. 1)

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 17:46 (two months ago) Permalink

xp does it help that the author of 'women are pure, wet temptation' is female?

anyway, I'm not sure what's wrong abt the fader list including both poc artists and bon iver? (except maybe the bon iver album was a bit underwhelming)

niels, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 17:47 (two months ago) Permalink

There's also Mitski somewhere in the Fader list. Looking at the list I thought Fader was a magazine focused on hiphop and r&b so it was strange seeing Mitski and Bon Iver in there. It bothers me more that the few white artists on the list are some of the most boring ones.

Moka, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 17:58 (two months ago) Permalink

sure yeah mitski is white and sings about being white

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 17:59 (two months ago) Permalink

i'm outta this one

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 18:00 (two months ago) Permalink

imago, take that shit to Reddit or w/e

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 18:06 (two months ago) Permalink

no one wants to hear you call the Fader cucks because there's not enough white people on their list

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 18:07 (two months ago) Permalink

Here you go imago:

http://theboot.com/top-country-songs-of-2016/

But beware not even theboot dared to not have a beyonce song in their list.

Moka, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 18:10 (two months ago) Permalink

imago's transition from screeching facebook feminist to frothing alt-right pepe is so perfect

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 18:11 (two months ago) Permalink

that's exactly what's happened here

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 18:13 (two months ago) Permalink

best list so far I think. wouldn't be my number 1 but she is the patron st of basic millennials so makes sense

||||||||, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 18:13 (two months ago) Permalink

if it was all POC then that'd be cool or w/e but no, there's motherfucking bon iver

― Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Wednesday, December 14, 2016 11:36 AM (forty-one minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

incredible post

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 18:21 (two months ago) Permalink

new board description

||||||||, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 18:22 (two months ago) Permalink

timeline here:

1. See Fader have a list
2. Read the vile woman-reducing garbage masquerading as feminism in their #1 blurb, start to wonder what sort of complacent stupid hipster nonsense the site must be
3. Scroll through rest of list. Lots of artists appearing multiple times. That's boring. Oh and OK they're mostly nonwhite. Almost all so. Is The Fader a black music magazine?
4. No, it isn't (Bon Iver!) It's just a lifestyle & music zine showing how goddamned smart and 2016 it is.
5. I'm alt-right now??

Nothing wrong with a majority nonwhite list per se but this one reeks of forcing it, performativity etc, and with some REALLY annoying writing

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 18:23 (two months ago) Permalink

anyway that really is all, but in case of future whiney goading, no i am not a racist or a pepe or any other hate-defined internet demographic

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 18:26 (two months ago) Permalink

'sex with me' > 'black beatles' were my numbers 1 & 2 also. not sure if i should be redesigning my list here or what >:(

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 18:28 (two months ago) Permalink

seems like it mostly lists the type of artists they cover?

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 18:29 (two months ago) Permalink

It's just a lifestyle & music zine showing how goddamned smart and 2016 it is.

Dude, have you actually seen what's happening in 2016?

Position Position, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 18:29 (two months ago) Permalink

"sex with me" is great i just don't particularly rate it over the other anti singles

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 18:29 (two months ago) Permalink

You don't see how

A) Making a mental tally of the number of non-white musicians on a list
B) Equating "liking black artists" with ""smart"" and ""2016"
C) Publicly flipping out about it

Are all super weird and racist?

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 18:32 (two months ago) Permalink

timeline here:

1. See Fader have a list
2. Read the vile woman-reducing garbage masquerading as feminism in their #1 blurb, start to wonder what sort of complacent stupid hipster nonsense the site must be
3. Scroll through rest of list. Lots of artists appearing multiple times. That's boring. Oh and OK they're mostly nonwhite. Almost all so. Is The Fader a black music magazine?
4. No, it isn't (Bon Iver!) It's just a lifestyle & music zine showing how goddamned smart and 2016 it is.
5. I'm alt-right now??

based on your thought process as described in 1-4 and the various assumptions it contains (only a black music publication would have a EOY list of the best music that was majority black, black people would never listen to Bon Iver), my answer to #5 is "no, but you're getting there"

¶ (DJP), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 18:32 (two months ago) Permalink

xp
lol the mental leap that occurs between 3 and 4 on that list is very weird

rob, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 18:33 (two months ago) Permalink

I wasn't sure what I thought about this list on first brush but now I love it
contributor roster is super diverse too, you might want to think about that for a minute imago

rob, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 18:34 (two months ago) Permalink

Posts like imagos are one step away from ironically posting *triggered* and screaming at "cuckfork" for liking Solange. Keep this shit off our board and go back to being Limey Loi

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 18:41 (two months ago) Permalink

#3 is imago jumping to the conclusion that Fader is "performatively woke"

Evan, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 18:45 (two months ago) Permalink

Its a good list but it also kinda makes me want my country back goddamit

sleepingbag, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 18:45 (two months ago) Permalink

make america rock again

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 18:46 (two months ago) Permalink

agh, they drag me back in

Whiney:

didn't make a tally but fine I guess I was looking for the wrong thing. v conspicuous though and made more so by narrow genre focus

equating making a list of this particularly narrow focus with 'woke' contemporary discourse sure, but again it's probably my fault for othering it idk - for many people this focus is everything - I am sorry for this

Dan:

fair and I'm sorry again - although my aspie brain distinguishes between 'majority' and 'almost all' - but even then I guess it would be fair for a general music zine to do this. been so much great music of all genres this year though that it feels like a very forced editorial decision, but who am I to complain

rob: it's awesome that there is such diversity on the panel! that is to be commended. but this diversity has manifested in a weird and narrow list and I'll admit I can't get my head around it, maybe due to prejudice.

not your job to educate me. apologies again.

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 18:46 (two months ago) Permalink

would like to stress as well that my initial fury was stoked by that write-up and that spilt over into my complaint with their weirdly restricted editorial focus, and I do not intend a tone of hatred towards black music, and I'm really sorry if it seems this way

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 18:50 (two months ago) Permalink

why is this list "narrow"? It seems pretty musically diverse

admittedly more british rap than id like to see.

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 18:53 (two months ago) Permalink

that you see a list with lots of black music as "restricted" or "narrow" might actually reflect your own myopic POV, just my 10 cents

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 18:54 (two months ago) Permalink

er, pence?

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 18:54 (two months ago) Permalink

idk why im bothering to argue with imago LOL

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 18:55 (two months ago) Permalink

a list full of white rock bands would be even worse but we're not seeing much of those outside kerrang and classic rock mag

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 18:56 (two months ago) Permalink

except for maybe over the last 40 years of music journalists making lists

Wassail Anarchist (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 18:58 (two months ago) Permalink

so let's not get into ridiculous notions of "balance"

Wassail Anarchist (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 18:58 (two months ago) Permalink

really wish I'd been threadbanned now

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 18:58 (two months ago) Permalink

maybe just maybe a lot of mainstream rock/indie/guitar pop/call it what the fuck you want is becoming an increasingly niche concern

Wassail Anarchist (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 18:59 (two months ago) Permalink

this diversity has manifested in a weird and narrow list and I'll admit I can't get my head around it

this has been said before in other ways, but there's a running theme in this thread, not at all surprising for a/this message board of course, of people ignoring the social aspect of music and expecting music writers and publications to be super focused on discovery or innovation rather than registering/analyzing music as a social phenomenon despite the fact that clearly the latter is both more common and more popular with readers

rob, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 18:59 (two months ago) Permalink

except for maybe over the last 40 years of music journalists making lists

if it ain't woke don't fix it

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 19:00 (two months ago) Permalink

lol

Wassail Anarchist (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 19:02 (two months ago) Permalink

ha

¶ (DJP), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 19:03 (two months ago) Permalink

lol

banfred bann (wins), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 19:04 (two months ago) Permalink

ha

Evan, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 19:05 (two months ago) Permalink

Hehe

Moka, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 19:18 (two months ago) Permalink

No comment on this specific back and forth but I will note that this is the second time in two days on ILX we've waded into someone or something being "performatively woke"

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 19:20 (two months ago) Permalink

If music as a social phenomenon is a parameter why is there no Justin Bieber on these lists? Twenty One Pilots? Sia? Spotify is telling me they had some of the top 20 most listened songs of 2016

Moka, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 19:22 (two months ago) Permalink

Bieber's album came out last year

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 19:23 (two months ago) Permalink

also Bieber fucking sucks

¶ (DJP), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 19:24 (two months ago) Permalink

so do Twenty One Pilots last time I checked

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 19:25 (two months ago) Permalink

to be more precise I don't mean merely commenting on what's popular (though Bieber was surely on all these lists last year; Sia maybe too), I mean the writers who compile these lists engage in music socially. like part of why I am into "Work" or Lemonade are because my friends are too and they were part of conversations/life, and this is also true of writers.

god this is banal and obvs but it makes more sense than trying to uncover the office and identity politics at work behind every list

rob, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 19:25 (two months ago) Permalink

so do Twenty One Pilots last time I checked

― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday,

my niece's godfather's son's favorite band – fight this generation.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 19:27 (two months ago) Permalink

I like "Heathens" but not nearly enough to investigate anything else they've done

¶ (DJP), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 19:28 (two months ago) Permalink

Yeah i was kind of joking about the lack of white.

Moka, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 19:28 (two months ago) Permalink

I am not joking about Bieber being the worst

¶ (DJP), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 19:28 (two months ago) Permalink

Fade Too Black

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 19:29 (two months ago) Permalink

Evan, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 19:29 (two months ago) Permalink

'sex with me' > 'black beatles' were my numbers 1 & 2 also. not sure if i should be redesigning my list here or what >:(

― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 18:28 Bookmark

nahh. couple days ago i was this close to citing 'sex with me' omission as perfect example of eoy talking points memo irrelevance, it is a great song and it is HUGELY popular on the low in the realest way. #1 placing is a stunt flex but fuck it i cosign

r|t|c, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 19:43 (two months ago) Permalink

admittedly more british rap than id like to see.

― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 18:53 Bookmark

like 4 tunes tho? (not even any good ones either so miss me with the kneejerk disdain bruh)

list is otherwise not one i much feel in my bones personally but goddamnit it is an actual proper list of songs that were listened to during the year indicating life and aesthetic and such. that would seem to be a precious rarity now

r|t|c, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 19:53 (two months ago) Permalink

I dont understand those color wheels. It makes it seem like if you mix those colors you get white and as a child I mixed them all and I didn't get white, I got black instead.

Moka, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 19:55 (two months ago) Permalink

Kind of felt like imago felt when reading that fader list.

Make the color wheel great again.

Moka, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 19:56 (two months ago) Permalink

ban fake moka

banfred bann (wins), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 19:57 (two months ago) Permalink

the fader list crashed my browser so i have nothing to say about it

(this has been true of many links itt; my computer is old and creaky but not unusually so i thought)

lex pretend, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 19:58 (two months ago) Permalink

Ban moka

Moka, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 19:59 (two months ago) Permalink

fyi is the 'sex with me' write up really any less reductively banal than a paen to solange as supposed tranquilising oatmeal balm cocoon

r|t|c, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 20:03 (two months ago) Permalink

look dad, no white people! so fucking brave

― Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Wednesday, December 14, 2016 5:23 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

what the

nomar, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 20:05 (two months ago) Permalink

Hahaha can we move on to another list please?

Moka, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 20:06 (two months ago) Permalink

a paen to solange as supposed tranquilising oatmeal balm cocoon

lmao

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 20:16 (two months ago) Permalink

PLEASE

sleeve, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 20:17 (two months ago) Permalink

What happened to Dusted magazine? They had one of the beat eoy lists.

Moka, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 20:18 (two months ago) Permalink

Dusted has moved to Tumblr

http://dustedmagazine.tumblr.com

Dinsdale, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 20:21 (two months ago) Permalink

the fader list crashed my browser so i have nothing to say about it

(this has been true of many links itt; my computer is old and creaky but not unusually so i thought)

a lot of these lists feature godawful, browser-destroying design

fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 20:35 (two months ago) Permalink

^^ yes. Fact has some fancy video thing playing atop of their list that crashed my iPad. It's so unnecessary when everyone clicking on it just wants to see the list.

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 20:37 (two months ago) Permalink

(Having to click 'next' every five or so titles also does my head in)

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 20:38 (two months ago) Permalink

would also like to cop to a sense of embarrassing gratitude towards fader's inclusion of 'too much sauce' cos that cursed song was floating around in my head to an unwelcome degree literally all fuckin year

r|t|c, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 20:40 (two months ago) Permalink

I dont understand those color wheels. It makes it seem like if you mix those colors you get white and as a child I mixed them all and I didn't get white, I got black instead.

You were mixing pigments (subtractive color). The colors above represent mixing light (additive color).

early rejecter, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 20:51 (two months ago) Permalink

Monorail (mostly zzzz but it does have The Hardy Tree LP so redeems itself for that):
http://www.monorailmusic.com/news.html?cmsnews_method=view&cmsnews_id=781f7069-c1f4-11e6-9ba4-22000b2080a0

Hunger magazine (note Radiohead as token something or other AGANE):
http://www.hungertv.com/feature/the-23-best-albums-of-2016/?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#link_time=1481623065

Jeff W, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 21:05 (two months ago) Permalink

-_-so fkn sorry everyone, my girlfriend went thru this thread and pointed out all the ways i've been bad & racist, and she was right of course. been feeling a total wretch all evening and maybe accepting that i had no right to speak as i've done itt (in general - it's been observed that the thread is cordial and pleasant when i'm not around) is the first step to some sort of reconciliation. any deficiencies i've perceived with these lists have been the perceptions of someone who doesn't rly get it. so hereon and in the eoy threads i will basically stick to boosting music i like and criticising individual songs i don't. lists & trends are not my expertise. there is no narrative i can apply which edifies anyone. fader can list whoever the hell it likes and write however it wants. i otoh should read more & write less. really sorry if i've ruined anyone's evening.

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 22:01 (two months ago) Permalink

well my evening was ruined by your comments and no apology can fix it

Mordy, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 22:10 (two months ago) Permalink

pure, wet denunciation

r|t|c, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 22:22 (two months ago) Permalink

give your girlfriend a high five from me. having someone who can call you on your shit is pretty awesome.

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 22:34 (two months ago) Permalink

imago, you didn't ruin my evening since dogpiling is very enjoyable to me

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 22:37 (two months ago) Permalink

the fader list crashed my browser so i have nothing to say about it

(this has been true of many links itt; my computer is old and creaky but not unusually so i thought)

― lex pretend, Wednesday, December 14, 2016 7:58 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

replacing hard drive worked for me fwiw

For bodies we are ready to build pyramids (wtev), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 22:41 (two months ago) Permalink

I just pretend the whole thing was in fact a burn at Bon Iver.

Moka, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 22:42 (two months ago) Permalink

Tbh I was taken aback by yr comments imago. Also because it seems this sort of shit is creeping into *everything* where heretofore (or pre-trump/2016/whatever) it would not (a thread for all 2016 top lists...), at least not as 'casually', or from someone unsuspected. You are a good man iirc and your girlfriend is too, your apology is sincere and it's water under the bridge.
What bums me out though is not understanding the thought process behind your criticism of Fader's list, what it was exactly that irked you and got you so worked up. How that literally worked in yr brain. I've no clue, and you're no "alt-right pepe" imho but I've seen so many people I've never expected it from saying stuff like this, seemingly out of nowhere. Blatant, in my face racism, in bars/transport/shops, just bcz my girlfriend isn't white and doesn't "look" "western". It's getting worse, way worse, and at a staggering pace lately. Which is not on you, but it is a "trend". And it scares the hell out of me.

You'll do fine lj. Listen to a wise man who once wrote "You saw the poster, now see the film." ;)

Anyway, sorry for venting. Don't want to derail by further derailing. Back on topic: is there just one medium out there with a decent top 10 of black metal albums? Tried to find it but could not find any.

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 23:49 (two months ago) Permalink

the indigested vomit of Holland has spoken again,sadly.

calzino, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 23:54 (two months ago) Permalink

bon iver is white?

simply gabbing a wonderful christmastime (crüt), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 23:56 (two months ago) Permalink

idk maybe he just spent too long in that cabin

Number None, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 23:57 (two months ago) Permalink

Sad that you hold on to your hatred towards me like grim death, Calzino. There are ways you know: killfile me, or simply ignore me if I offend you that much.

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 15 December 2016 00:00 (two months ago) Permalink

attempting to fish a conversation thread out of the undrained swamp:

to be more precise I don't mean merely commenting on what's popular (though Bieber was surely on all these lists last year; Sia maybe too), I mean the writers who compile these lists engage in music socially. like part of why I am into "Work" or Lemonade are because my friends are too and they were part of conversations/life, and this is also true of writers.

god this is banal and obvs but it makes more sense than trying to uncover the office and identity politics at work behind every list

― rob, Wednesday, December 14, 2016 2:25 PM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it's impossible to separate social listening from office politics, is the thing. for people in notably incestuous fields like music journalism, they are often one and the same. (The example that always comes to mind is "Classic Man" making more lists than its midlist-airplay corniness otherwise might have merited because of an inside joke that I think happened around Pitchfork Music Festival that year.)

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Thursday, 15 December 2016 00:07 (two months ago) Permalink

that song was always good though. it got a belated boost from ppl who were initially like "hmm not trap enough" & ignored

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 15 December 2016 07:50 (two months ago) Permalink

but yeah i disagree w/ rob's point, a critic does not owe an audience deference to what their social experience was, if anything my exp has been ppl want to be told how to like things & when labels/writers/whoever are too reactive ("oh this has a lot of views") it ends up peaking early & forgotten one year later

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 15 December 2016 07:52 (two months ago) Permalink

the number of times i listened to critics & industry ppl theorize that desiigner was some kind of musical savant bc everyone liked hearing panda in teh club .... lolz

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 15 December 2016 07:53 (two months ago) Permalink

http://www.stereogum.com/1914718/the-40-best-metal-albums-of-2016/franchises/2016-in-review/

Kinda amusing that everyone on this thread (and on facebook in general) are bemoaning the same acts appearing in all the lists but this metal writer is complaining that the metal lists have no consensus and how lists/genres need consensus

I could go either way on this one, but I think I’m primarily sort of dispirited by the fact that nobody in metal appears to be having the same conversation as anybody else. (Incidentally, by my count, 10 titles from Decibel’s list are included on our own top 40 below.) I think music benefits from having ubiquitous figures inspiring universal debate. I think prominent artists push forward the entire art form. I think metal today lacks standard-bearers — and maybe even standards — and as such, it fails to meaningfully engage with the culture at large. Right now, it barely seems to understand how to substantively connect with its most-devoted community members. You can be a serious metal enthusiast and probably not give a shit about a single one of the 40 albums on Decibel’s list — or our list, for that matter. And while I understand how we got here, I think that’s ultimately probably not a great development for metal.

Stereogum’s own Tom Breihan summed it up pretty damn well in his late-November review of Worm Ouroboros’ What Graceless Dawn, saying:

Underground metal is a funny thing. These days, it feels less like a genre and more like a loose constellation of vaguely connected mini-scenes … Seriously: Sometimes I think metal is less a kind of music and more a design sensibility.

It’s hard to argue with that, except perhaps to say that even the design aspect is pretty inconsistent at this point. Notably, a number of metal bands enjoyed brief periods of commercial success in 2016. Anthrax’s For All Kings debuted at #9 on the Billboard 200. Both Korn’s The Serenity Of Suffering and Volbeat’s Seal The Deal & Let’s Boogie debuted at #4. Megadeth’s Dystopia debuted at #3. Deftones’ Gore debuted at #2.

In a different world, that would mean something — those albums would be central to our collective understanding of this music. But in this world? Nah. None of those albums were included on Decibel’s list. None of them are included on our list. But, like, then you see that two of them were included on Rolling Stone’s list. So, I mean, I dunno. I’m not trying to single anybody out here. I’m pretty egalitarian in my view. Nobody’s right, nobody’s wrong, but mostly, my point is, nobody’s talking about the same music.

also

To get an idea of how decentralized metal became in 2016, you need look no further than Decibel’s list of the year’s 40 best albums. I think it goes without saying at this point that Decibel is the most respected and vital metal-specific publication in the world right now (as it has been for about a decade),

If the world only includes North America.

Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 15 December 2016 13:09 (two months ago) Permalink

Do you happen to know a good top X of 2016 black metal albums, from some medium or website I'm unaware of?

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 15 December 2016 13:13 (two months ago) Permalink

Nope, not aware of any black metal only albums of the year

but you could try rate your music

http://tinyurl.com/RYM-BlackMetal-2016

Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 15 December 2016 13:20 (two months ago) Permalink

The first twenty of that list are all worthwhile I'd say, in particular ColdWorld, Urfaust, Anaal Nathrakh, Furia, Moonsorrow, Deströyer 666.

Siegbran, Thursday, 15 December 2016 13:27 (two months ago) Permalink

Michael Nelson is such a good writer

niels, Thursday, 15 December 2016 13:31 (two months ago) Permalink

Thanks Siegbran 'n Kerr. My fave this year was Spectral Lore's Gnosis, but always find it very hard to find a good place recommending me stuff.

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 15 December 2016 13:39 (two months ago) Permalink

This site has served me well, still waiting for the EOY list though.

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 15 December 2016 13:40 (two months ago) Permalink

You need to have a listen to Mesarthim - Isolate btw. Its like Summoning IN SPACE

Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 15 December 2016 13:45 (two months ago) Permalink

would like to import my opinion from the metal thread here and say that michael nelson is a horrible writer

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Thursday, 15 December 2016 15:20 (two months ago) Permalink

"So, I mean, I dunno."

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Thursday, 15 December 2016 15:20 (two months ago) Permalink

do you think that sentence is colloquial by mistake or design

niels, Thursday, 15 December 2016 15:55 (two months ago) Permalink

do u think the giant paragraphs manage to say absolutely nothing about their subject by mistake or design

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Thursday, 15 December 2016 15:57 (two months ago) Permalink

thanks for explaining blogging though niels

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Thursday, 15 December 2016 15:57 (two months ago) Permalink

lol np

anyway I'm more interested in the thoughts expressed than his style, and I find his thoughts on metal inspiring - this is a genre I'm not too familiar with though, so perhaps if I was more knowledgeable I'd be more annoyed

find his writing on pop and the music industry pretty darn good too

niels, Thursday, 15 December 2016 15:58 (two months ago) Permalink

generally speaking trying to come up with a Grand Statement about a global umbrella "genre" is not a good starting point for anything that might come into striking distance of a point

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 15 December 2016 15:58 (two months ago) Permalink

"I think music benefits from having ubiquitous figures inspiring universal debate" is an interesting idea, I dunno if he uses too many paragraphs to explore it, but I'd like to hear your thoughts

niels, Thursday, 15 December 2016 16:01 (two months ago) Permalink

It is true that icons like Beyoncé, Drake and Rihanna "help" frame the discourse on R&B/pop?

niels, Thursday, 15 December 2016 16:02 (two months ago) Permalink

then again, it's also good to disrupt stylistic hegemony and though fx some jazz musicians may be nostalgic for a time when jazz superstars were a central part of musical discourse I imagine few want to roll back the developments that made contemporary jazz possible

niels, Thursday, 15 December 2016 16:06 (two months ago) Permalink

I know next to nothing about metal but that Stereogum article is great. I rarely visit Stereogum do they have a metal section and is Michael Nelson the main writer?

Moka, Thursday, 15 December 2016 16:19 (two months ago) Permalink

"I think music benefits from having ubiquitous figures inspiring universal debate" is an interesting idea,

well most people in this thread really dislike that as they all appear in the lists yet many of them will talk about 'event albums' and 'iconic stars' so the truth may just simply be they agree with you niels as long as it's music they like?

Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 15 December 2016 16:24 (two months ago) Permalink

I do not like the idea of a definite consensus but a little bit is helpful specially for outsiders. There's two reasons I can't get into metal: 1) It doesn't quite match the aesthetics I want in music but I'm sure there is at least a dozen metal albums I'd love but 2) there's seriously no consensus, the few metal fans I know all recommend me very different subgenres and when they do agree on a subgenre none of the albums match. This is somewhat exciting for me but at the same time I don't want to spend my time listening to 20,000 records of a genre which is difficult for me to see which one sticks and expand from there... consensus records help in this regard.

Moka, Thursday, 15 December 2016 16:29 (two months ago) Permalink

tbh when quoting what i did i wasnt doing it to talk metal because the quote could be applied to all music

Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 15 December 2016 16:34 (two months ago) Permalink

Moka are you saying you prefer consensus on niche/specialist lists but not on all-encompassing general end of year lists?

Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 15 December 2016 16:35 (two months ago) Permalink

Yes that's it!

Per example I complained about how dissapointing the ResidentAdvisor one was this year for having artists like Radiohead in there. I know it's a great album but I don't care about having it on RA. I want residentadvisor to show me the consensus albums on the house/techno scene that they usually review since I don't have time to listen to every album on every genre and that's what I want in every EOY list. Niche consensus not every list with Frank Ocean and Beyonce unless that's the sort of music you usually write about.

Moka, Thursday, 15 December 2016 16:48 (two months ago) Permalink

And obviously not a strict consensus but if I see 3 or 4 house/techno lists and one or two records are praised the same in every one then I know that's probably the best starting points and the albums I missed this year.

Moka, Thursday, 15 December 2016 16:51 (two months ago) Permalink

but then the same albums all the time in a general list is surely doing the same?

Tho really it just boils down to writers pick their fave albums and the resulting consensus is just what happens.

but can you like lists and still complain about them when you know there will be a consensus as thats what lists do.

Otherwise you have to game lists rather than allow voters to choose their tracks/albums and that is the kind of list I hate!

Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 15 December 2016 16:56 (two months ago) Permalink

for instance say in any ilm eoy poll general or niche like metal poll, if we went out of our way not to vote for albums/tracks in other lists just to be different, or dont vote for bands like say animal collective* or whoever because of the abuse you then get in a thread would lead to a bad poll list I think because you werent listing the albums you really liked.

in eoy polls noone should vote tactically because that really does lead to the big known albums you know others will vote for will dominate and the just as awesome but less known albums get locked out.

Really everyone should just vote for the things they genuinely liked best.

* a couple of years ago a few people (one I think was blueski) said they left off anco from their list because of the abuse they would get as the album was on every list.

Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 15 December 2016 17:04 (two months ago) Permalink

A question to the writers on this thread who do vote in these lists or in P&J or even ilm eoy poll do you just list your faves in order or do you try to vote for things you know others will or do you deliberately avoid voting for albums you think everyone else will?

Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 15 December 2016 17:04 (two months ago) Permalink

Trying to game the system in year end polls is clown shit

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 15 December 2016 17:10 (two months ago) Permalink

Except when we all voted "Lemme Smang It" at number one obviously

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 15 December 2016 17:11 (two months ago) Permalink

I don't mind "tactical" voting aimed at avoiding vote-splitting or wasting votes: if lots of people want to vote for X artist's songs or a track from Y genre, but can't quite agree on what is best, they may be happier to support their second or third or fourth choice than see none of them place at all.

aka politics

Tim F, Thursday, 15 December 2016 17:12 (two months ago) Permalink

Tactics have always been a part of these things - if you count not loading your tracks ballot with multiple entries from your favourite album.

nashwan, Thursday, 15 December 2016 17:15 (two months ago) Permalink

yeah, I mean a truly "pure" tracks ballot for me would have 17 slots taken up by Jeff Rosenstock

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 15 December 2016 17:18 (two months ago) Permalink

Also not everyone has the same approach to deciding what their "genuine" favourites are and it can change constantly. Stop being ridiculous.

nashwan, Thursday, 15 December 2016 17:19 (two months ago) Permalink

But general lists and niche lists are different?

if we're talking about a site in which each writer is in charge of a different section (hip hop, rock & metal, pop & rb, jazz & soul, etc...) there's an obvious problem about consensus but I honestly have no idea how that works. I like better when big magazines either do a best of for each author or a best of by genre.

I can't remember which list was it last year that did this and also had a top 10 classical music which was amazing and I found a couple of keepers in there. The overall list was very agreeable too.

Moka, Thursday, 15 December 2016 17:19 (two months ago) Permalink

Also not everyone has the same approach to deciding what their "genuine" favourites are and it can change constantly. Stop being ridiculous.

― nashwan,

not sure if you're responding to me or whiney but I was only asking what everyone did.

Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 15 December 2016 17:21 (two months ago) Permalink

Response to both. You're only asking and I'm only answering.

nashwan, Thursday, 15 December 2016 17:23 (two months ago) Permalink

lots of xposts to katherine and D-40:

Yeah sorry that was very muddled. katherine is right that “office politics” was the exact wrong phrase. I was trying to capture the idea that there’s a cynical branding/ market-positioning strategy behind every list. The fact that critics hang out, work with, and influence each other’s tastes and ways of gauging what is significant is precisely the social process I had in mind (one that is unsurprisingly similar to how many other humans experience music: socially), not trying to respond to the audience. Like it’s a qualitative process rather than the quantitative one at work in the "Panda" example.

rob, Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:05 (two months ago) Permalink

I know you said 'many other' not 'all' and this is off topic but there's friends of mine who would seriously argue that music should be experienced socially. One of them is a huge 'glitch' nerd (alva noto and that sort of music-not-music kind of artists/programmers)... she never shares her music and even gets annoyed when you ask her what is she listening to (unfortunately for her, Shazam is now a thing, unfortunately for me she pauses the music when she sees me open the app).

No point in sharing that but there it is.

Moka, Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:14 (two months ago) Permalink

yeah "many other" was intentional and obvs there are critics who would also disagree

rob, Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:20 (two months ago) Permalink

wherever it is on the scale you may think eoy reviews should lie between top 40 data dump or lone gunmen following their muse, any singles list with 27 songs by 5 artists is negligent journalistically and flaccid polemically

r|t|c, Thursday, 15 December 2016 19:14 (two months ago) Permalink

it's kind of dispiriting knowing that is the deliberate point and that there's absolutely no impetus to change it

lex pretend, Thursday, 15 December 2016 19:20 (two months ago) Permalink

they have all somehow managed to develop this kind of idk, trite bloviating cultural narrativization that actually has very little interest in zeitgeist. whatever it is it is not music criticism

r|t|c, Thursday, 15 December 2016 19:27 (two months ago) Permalink

It's either that the voter base is listening to the same albums and virtually no non-album material, or that the singles vote is all long-tail there are just no other singles to serve as rallying points. Both options suggest there's been a failure of journalism somewhere along the line. It all suggests that the national office crew isn't going out and partying together that much at all.

Matt DC, Thursday, 15 December 2016 19:28 (two months ago) Permalink

the "single" itself is a total different animal even from 5 years ago

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 15 December 2016 19:52 (two months ago) Permalink

Yeah but there are still bangers and scene anthems and so forth. If your tracks list is entirely based of your favourite tracks from your favourite albums it suggests a complete lack of engagement with individual scenes.

Matt DC, Thursday, 15 December 2016 19:58 (two months ago) Permalink

it's like any EOY list, and it's even worse w/film probably where an even more limited set of films takes up a greater percentage of the conversation, and it's really a discussion of which 10 films out of 25 will make your list. maybe it's not worse than films, though, because there are so many more films to choose from. idk.

nomar, Thursday, 15 December 2016 19:59 (two months ago) Permalink

is there even a "single" from the solange or chance albums? I have no idea!

but we've developed a nu-rockism around pop artists [prockimism?] that the "good" pop artists are album artists and the "bad" pop artists are singles artists

N O N E of these critics lists are going to ride for the actual hit pop singles of the year that didn't come from album artists — Lukas Graham, Sia, Gnash, Meghan Trainor, DJ Snake, Kent Jones, DNCE, etc

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 15 December 2016 20:00 (two months ago) Permalink

Like the whole "Meghan Trainor is bad, I listen to REAL pop music like Carly Rae Jepson" is such a dogshit conceit that just completely flies in the face of what makes a good pop single

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 15 December 2016 20:03 (two months ago) Permalink

Like there's a reason "No" charted higher than any Beyonce song, and it's not because INDUSTRY PLANT SHE IS THE BAD POP

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 15 December 2016 20:07 (two months ago) Permalink

I can think of one reason

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 15 December 2016 20:08 (two months ago) Permalink

I didn't really get the visceral hatred of "No" tbh

¶ (DJP), Thursday, 15 December 2016 20:09 (two months ago) Permalink

idk how "critics don't engage with scenes and the tracks that resonate in those scenes" turned into "critics don't ride for chart pop" but

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Thursday, 15 December 2016 20:09 (two months ago) Permalink

(I mean, I do get hating Megan Trainor's quack-voice, but that didn't seem to be what anyone was objecting to)

¶ (DJP), Thursday, 15 December 2016 20:10 (two months ago) Permalink

Consensus is a sampling artifact.

glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 15 December 2016 20:32 (two months ago) Permalink

whiney's talking taste turkey as if it were even still applicable to the big lists, where there is evidently no longer any sensibility at play other than prestige tv recaps for the clickiest event albums

r|t|c, Thursday, 15 December 2016 20:48 (two months ago) Permalink

perhaps a good time to note that a full quarter of last year's ilm 77 (freed from rolling wizard despotism by the great liberator no less) was just grimes miguel kendrick crj sundfor

r|t|c, Thursday, 15 December 2016 20:53 (two months ago) Permalink

I think most people , even fans of those acts, complained about nominating/voting for album tracks into the 77.

Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 15 December 2016 20:57 (two months ago) Permalink

If only there was something we could do about that.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 15 December 2016 20:59 (two months ago) Permalink

well the problem is the amount of actual singles released as such....

You could just vote for the pop songs that arent on albums right enough.

Like Honey G from x-factor will likely have a single eligible for next years poll ;)

Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 15 December 2016 21:02 (two months ago) Permalink

gerrymandering the vote to look cooler isnt the point

r|t|c, Thursday, 15 December 2016 21:05 (two months ago) Permalink

totally. But I also know everyone will be complaining about loads of solange/radiohead/kanye/frank ocean et all in the 77.

in short: no ones ever happy :D

Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 15 December 2016 21:15 (two months ago) Permalink

And I think most people enjoy the countdown the way it is

Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 15 December 2016 21:16 (two months ago) Permalink

and as a eoy pollrunner could I perhaps take this chance to remind everyone voting in metal poll ends tomorrow and we only have 18 ballots so far so all ballots from one album to fifty are equally welcome!

[url=http://ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=41&threadid=104977&action=showall&bookmarkedmessageid=6155782]METAL ALBUMS POLL 2016 VOTING AND CAMPAIGNING THREAD. [Voting ends Friday December 16 11.59pm GMT][/url

Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 15 December 2016 21:19 (two months ago) Permalink

LargeUp's dancehall list is out:

1. Vybz Kartel, “Fever”
2. Rihanna feat. Drake, “Work”
3. Konshens, “Bruk Off”
4. Popcaan, “We Still A Win (World Cup)”
5. Alkaline, “City”
6. Drake feat. Popcaan, “Controlla”
7. Jahmiel, “Where Were U”
8. Popcaan, “Ova Dweet”
9. Vybz Kartel, “Western Union”
10. Mavado, “Progress”
11. Charly Blacks, “Gyal You A Party Animal”
12. Dwayne “DJ” Bravo, “Champion”
13. Chi Ching Ching, “Breadfruit (Roast or Fry)”/ Popcaan, “Wicked Man Ting”
14. Spice, “Indicator”
15. Chronixx, “Sell My Gun”
16. Alkaline, “After All”

rob, Thursday, 15 December 2016 21:23 (two months ago) Permalink

The 10 Best Experimental Albums of 2016 by The Observer

Bloodmist, Sheen / Pale Horse, Badlands (5049)
Body/Head, No Waves (Matador)
David Grubbs, Prismrose (Blue Chopsticks)
Chuck Hammer, Blind on Blind (AVA Interact)
Daniel Higgs, The Fools Sermon, part 1 (Ideologic Organ)
Alan Licht, Currents (VDSQ)
Merzbow/Keiji Haino/Balazs Pandi, An Untroublesome Defencelessness (RareNoise)
Rob Noyes, The Feudal Spirit (Poon Village)
Okkyung Lee & Christian Marclay, Amalgam (Northern Spy)
Thor & Friends, Thor & Friends (LM Duplication)

Dinsdale, Thursday, 15 December 2016 22:02 (two months ago) Permalink

Thor & Friends, Thor & Friends (LM Duplication)

please tell me this is the guy from Zombie Nightmare

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Thursday, 15 December 2016 22:04 (two months ago) Permalink

agree w/ rob that largeup's list is factually accurate

r|t|c, Thursday, 15 December 2016 22:10 (two months ago) Permalink

Does everyone get the link to Trainor's 'No' on YouTube as the top result for searching 'no' on Google? Shit is messed up.

nashwan, Thursday, 15 December 2016 22:12 (two months ago) Permalink

meghan trainor is a quack voiced dipshit peddling regressive politics. "no" would be great if anyone else - maybe fellow ricky reed protege lizzo! - was singing it but pop radio is SUPER RACIST ATM so here we are.

maura, Thursday, 15 December 2016 22:39 (two months ago) Permalink

Thor & Friends, Thor & Friends (LM Duplication)

please tell me this is the guy from Zombie Nightmare

Nope, the guy from Swans/Shearwater/a bunch of other things. Haven't heard the album but they were very good live.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 15 December 2016 23:05 (two months ago) Permalink

please tell me this is the guy from Zombie Nightmare

That Thor had an album last year, Metal Avenger, and played the Alehorn Of Power fest recently!

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 15 December 2016 23:13 (two months ago) Permalink

11. Charly Blacks, “Gyal You A Party Animal”

is this counted as 2016? i've heard it SO MUCH this year but when i looked it up it was from mid-2015

lex pretend, Thursday, 15 December 2016 23:29 (two months ago) Permalink

it's really amazing obv

lex pretend, Thursday, 15 December 2016 23:29 (two months ago) Permalink

They acknowledge that in the write-up. It's a year of impact call though the riddim is from 2014

rob, Thursday, 15 December 2016 23:34 (two months ago) Permalink

Nope, the guy from Swans/Shearwater/a bunch of other things. Haven't heard the album but they were very good live.

― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.)

oh well this is good anyway. i like marimba.

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Friday, 16 December 2016 00:04 (two months ago) Permalink

i thought alkaline's "one more time" was even better than "city"

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 16 December 2016 01:09 (two months ago) Permalink

good list tarfumes

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 16 December 2016 01:13 (two months ago) Permalink

Ah I just remembered what EOY feature I was thinking earlier that does the niche/general lists quite well imho. It was NPR, I think?. Have you guys linked to it already?

http://www.npr.org/series/482024024/best-music-of-2016

The general best of albums and songs is kind of what we've seen already elsewhere with a few surprises. But the individual lists are great.

dance cum rituals (Moka), Friday, 16 December 2016 01:22 (two months ago) Permalink

Although I remember last year it was only one article divided by sections. Best classical, best electronic and so on I might be misremembering or it wasn't NPR the list I was looking for.

dance cum rituals (Moka), Friday, 16 December 2016 01:28 (two months ago) Permalink

i thought alkaline's "one more time" was even better than "city"

― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 16 December 2016 01:09 Bookmark

largeup list is never really about aesthetic judgement and esp not this year

in any case choosing one alka fave is like how ppl agonise between thugger tracks, but for real

r|t|c, Friday, 16 December 2016 02:22 (two months ago) Permalink

"one more time" was the alkaline standout for me too

lex pretend, Friday, 16 December 2016 12:45 (two months ago) Permalink

https://popstylemusic.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/charly-black-one-sheet.jpg?w=700

found this handy bumpf to help explain the success of 'party animal'. as you can see ja gave it 0 fucks

FROM THE BEACH PARTY TO THE DANCE FLOOR IN ONE FELL SWOOP!

r|t|c, Friday, 16 December 2016 13:25 (two months ago) Permalink

the real bird sound power

r|t|c, Friday, 16 December 2016 13:26 (two months ago) Permalink

Bummed about the lack of love shown to Kiran Leonard's flawed-but-remarkable Grapefruit. That album is really something, IMO.

zchyrs, Friday, 16 December 2016 14:11 (two months ago) Permalink

belated again so picking up a couple threads:

1) I don't really experience music socially, but that's only because in any given year the music I love the most, no one else gives a shit about nor can I make them. not even in a role where that is presumably my job.

2) the distinction isn't just albums artists vs. singles artists, but also celebrities vs. non-celebrities (even non-Designated Villains like Trainor, people such as Dua Lipa or Zara Larsson, don't get critics to give a shit about their songs), suburban-coding vs. non-suburban-coding (i.e. Rachel Platten), Songs For Olds vs. Songs Not For Olds... also not new, it's the same thing as critics latching onto the first solo justin timberlake songs and ignition at the expense of at least half that year

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Friday, 16 December 2016 16:36 (two months ago) Permalink

and sure, the immediate cause of 1) is many lists being compiled via individual ballots, but that consensus has to come from somewhere; if a song doesn't get the full song-and-meme treatment early on it's probably fucked

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Friday, 16 December 2016 16:38 (two months ago) Permalink

was shocked to see that Tracks poll hot favourite 'Black Beatles' got to #2 in the barely-relevant-but-still singles chart

nashwan, Friday, 16 December 2016 16:45 (two months ago) Permalink

well there was a meme

rob, Friday, 16 December 2016 16:46 (two months ago) Permalink

it was so depressing when I realised that was the reason for it (also means I feel no inclination to vote for the song in any individual tracks context)

zara larsson made some superb pop this year, "ain't my fault" was a v underrated banger

"no" would be decent b-tier pop in someone else's hands but meghan trainor sounds so flat and bland on it. the song itself might not deserve visceral hatred but it reminds you of all the stuff she's done that absolutely does

lex pretend, Friday, 16 December 2016 16:52 (two months ago) Permalink

not to ride for tedious viral culture and whatnot BUT secretly i actually kinda think the kernel of the mannequin challenge as commentary on the vibe of 'black beatles' is quite cool spontaneous groupcrit

r|t|c, Friday, 16 December 2016 17:21 (two months ago) Permalink

but we've developed a nu-rockism around pop artists [prockimism?] that the "good" pop artists are album artists and the "bad" pop artists are singles artists

N O N E of these critics lists are going to ride for the actual hit pop singles of the year that didn't come from album artists — Lukas Graham, Sia, Gnash, Meghan Trainor, DJ Snake, Kent Jones, DNCE, etc

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, December 15, 2016 3:00 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

very good point. I hadn't really noticed although once you point it out it's obviously true

flopson, Friday, 16 December 2016 17:25 (two months ago) Permalink

black beatles was already in the top 20 and climbing prior to the mannequin challenge fwiw, that just pushed it over the top

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 16 December 2016 18:05 (two months ago) Permalink

Whiney bemoaning the lack of critical appreciation for Lukas Graham? Well, I'm back

imago, Friday, 16 December 2016 18:50 (two months ago) Permalink

Although I will say that the lack of PPAP in these lists is deeply troubling, so maybe he has a point

imago, Friday, 16 December 2016 18:52 (two months ago) Permalink

those non-album examples are universally unappetising but his broader point stands

r|t|c, Friday, 16 December 2016 19:26 (two months ago) Permalink

I mean, I do not like that Lukas Graham song but I'm also not going to pretend there's some objective reason that it's "not as good" as Drake's "Controlla" or w/e

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 16 December 2016 19:28 (two months ago) Permalink

And, like, I can sing it right now which is more than I can say about literally anything Frank Ocean did outside of "Nikes"

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 16 December 2016 19:30 (two months ago) Permalink

what he did inside of nikes was very memorable tho

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Friday, 16 December 2016 19:33 (two months ago) Permalink

the catchy well-written pop of frank ocean

imago, Friday, 16 December 2016 19:33 (two months ago) Permalink

but whiney as an editor with actual clout what do you want (or intend?) to do about this structurally? i agree with the thrust of your complaint but when the entire music journalism industry seems invested in doubling down on this direction it feels pointless (not in a "we shouldn't care" way but in a "nothing will change for the better" way)

lex pretend, Friday, 16 December 2016 19:37 (two months ago) Permalink

feel like a key problem is potentially brilliant individual voices getting subsumed into the brands of whoever they write for. is there space for any writer to kick against their own publication's consensus any more?

lex pretend, Friday, 16 December 2016 19:39 (two months ago) Permalink

I don't think there needs to be some **structural overhaul**, it's just funny that we've replaced one brand of corny opinions with another brand of corny opinions and call it "poptimism"

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 16 December 2016 20:08 (two months ago) Permalink

well, YOU call it optimism

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 16 December 2016 20:12 (two months ago) Permalink

poptimism even

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 16 December 2016 20:12 (two months ago) Permalink

pop-timism, the new dad rock

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Friday, 16 December 2016 20:15 (two months ago) Permalink

I guess I'm happy to live in a safe, sane world where Drake, Kanye, Lukas Graham, and Trainor are stuck in a burning building with no one do save them.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 16 December 2016 20:15 (two months ago) Permalink

two of those artists are not like the other two alfred

lex pretend, Friday, 16 December 2016 20:16 (two months ago) Permalink

I will not go into the gradations of awfulness.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 16 December 2016 20:17 (two months ago) Permalink

are you certain the people behind these lists think Frank Ocean is objectively better than Lukas Graham?

niels, Friday, 16 December 2016 20:50 (two months ago) Permalink

its not really poptimism though, considering its still basically just auteurism

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 16 December 2016 22:06 (two months ago) Permalink

That is true too

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 16 December 2016 22:22 (two months ago) Permalink

it's market poptimism. it's often practiced with chartbeat screens dancing in editors' and writers' heads.

maura, Friday, 16 December 2016 22:50 (two months ago) Permalink

also i wish any of sia's songs this year weren't just big minor key BLAAAATTTSS that doubled as excuses for maddie ziegler to make funny faces. i want to like a lot more of the stuff that's popular than i do, trust me! but gnash, which is for people who think "closer" has too much pep in its step? cmonnnn

maura, Friday, 16 December 2016 22:52 (two months ago) Permalink

kent jones and dnce have bops though. dnce's set was the highlight of jingle ball

maura, Friday, 16 December 2016 22:53 (two months ago) Permalink

please keep bops off ilm i cannot

r|t|c, Friday, 16 December 2016 23:31 (two months ago) Permalink

1. 'Gyal You A Party Animal' is a straight up top 20 pick for this year easily.

2. Anyone using the word 'poptimism' in any context in 2016 "needs to take a long hard look at themselves.

Matt DC, Friday, 16 December 2016 23:43 (two months ago) Permalink

it isn't auteurism, though, or if it is it's bullshit auteurism -- no one gives a shit about the writers, producers, or generally people involved unless they're well-known enough to misattribute things to (max martin, dr. luke) or celebrities (see: the instant reappraisal of "This Is What You Came For" when it "became" a Taylor Swift song). it's celebrity gossip, and not even particularly informed celebrity gossip.

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Saturday, 17 December 2016 00:30 (two months ago) Permalink

idk people seem pretty invested in those celebrities' "genius"

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Saturday, 17 December 2016 00:47 (two months ago) Permalink

it's a mixture of things encouraged by music critics, celebrity gossip hacks and social affairs writers encroaching on each other's territory.

lots of music critics still subscribe to auteurism, yes, which means that pop singers are still divided into critically worthy/unworthy as whiney said.

celebrity journalists care about celebrities ofc.

writers whose primary beat is political or social care to the extent that an artist or a song is an avatar of whatever political issue is at stake - ie they care about eg beyoncé and taylor swift because that's their peg to talk about feminism; an obscure artist tackling the same issues is of limited use to them.

(the penny dropped re: the latter in a conversation with a friend and political journalist about "blurred lines" in its year, and i was like, look, the actual lyric is ambiguous and thicke has been respected by the predominantly female r&b audience for years now. she was like, as an activist you use what's in the headlines to make your point.)

anyway all of this - plus the demon SEO - combines for a situation where there are now only five artists of any ~relevance left. and let us not pretend there is any motivation or desire among any of these groups or their editors to change it, so y'know get used to it, or get used to not clicking to stave off the fatigue of it all.

lex pretend, Saturday, 17 December 2016 01:01 (two months ago) Permalink

ok but pursue this line of argument much farther and you've written that piece in the nation

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Saturday, 17 December 2016 01:15 (two months ago) Permalink

(i.e. I know or at least hope this isn't what you're going for, but "political journalists" and "social affairs writers" used in this context really do seem like euphemisms for "those damn SJWs")

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Saturday, 17 December 2016 01:19 (two months ago) Permalink

I think it's a point about alleged "critical music writing" being used in the service of an agenda more than an evaluation?

that is an interesting summary in my opinion, throws a lot of these EOY lists into a wider perspective that has more to do w/the specific media outlets and their motives/aesthetics/funding

I mean, I'm not a paid critic and haven't been published since the 90s but lex's breakdown makes sense to me as someone who reads a ton of music writing but is also involved in politics

sleeve, Saturday, 17 December 2016 01:21 (two months ago) Permalink

(re: the three areas blurring together)

sleeve, Saturday, 17 December 2016 01:23 (two months ago) Permalink

no, it's definitely not a criticism of music criticism becoming more woke or attuned to social justice, diverse representation etc. that's long overdue.

also it's a question of cumulative effect, i have read lots of extremely thoughtful pieces by both writers from the music critic end and the activist end that don't just seize on a big star for a lazy peg but do dig deep - but they get shared around a bit one day and then everyone moves on, and it barely dents the larger effect of something keeping kanye in the headlines every day.

lex pretend, Saturday, 17 December 2016 01:28 (two months ago) Permalink

Said The Gramophone's Best song 2016:

http://www.saidthegramophone.com/archives/best_songs_of_2016.php

dance cum rituals (Moka), Saturday, 17 December 2016 01:29 (two months ago) Permalink

Sean always has some nice surprises in his top 100. Definitely recommend that one... there's the consensus picks + some more personal choices which is where it shines.

dance cum rituals (Moka), Saturday, 17 December 2016 01:30 (two months ago) Permalink

Also it is one of the few lists where each selection gets a blurb. Most are lazy and just put a list.

dance cum rituals (Moka), Saturday, 17 December 2016 01:31 (two months ago) Permalink

like, to be clear, i am firmly pro SJW, and writers from that perspective are very attuned to how things look from a non industry perspective, which is very valuable bc quite a lot of music writers are way too wrapped up in the industry. but at the same time they mostly don't - and nor is it their job to - pore over credits, dig deep into the tropes of a genre they only casually follow, even consider beyoncé's last two albums in the context of her entire career (side note: how many articles about the s/t and lemonade read as if the writer has never previously heard a beyoncé album?)

which brings me to another problem which is the 24-hour churn! good writers aren't being given the time (OR MONEY) to do the research, a lot of the time.

lex pretend, Saturday, 17 December 2016 01:33 (two months ago) Permalink

thanks moka!

sean gramophone, Saturday, 17 December 2016 01:40 (two months ago) Permalink

I'm not defending Blonde, but I bothered to listen to "Pink + White" and "Ivy" about 4 times and I can remember how they go even though I haven't listened to either since summer. And for me, "Nikes" is the one where I'm kinda baffled that anyone might consider it memorable.

billstevejim, Saturday, 17 December 2016 01:50 (two months ago) Permalink

thanks moka!

― sean gramophone

No, thank you! Yours is honestly one of the lists I always look forward to each year. I'm only on the top 25 and I've already found several songs which I haven't seen anywhere else and are pretty good (Snowblink, World Provider, Sugarboy, Waclaw Zimpel, John K Sampson)

dance cum rituals (Moka), Saturday, 17 December 2016 01:52 (two months ago) Permalink

I... really don't think it's the 24-hour churn. the only person I can speak for is myself, but the problem isn't that I have insufficient time, the problem is that I suck

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Saturday, 17 December 2016 02:32 (two months ago) Permalink

if anything the nebulousness of album releases, and the cordoning off of where they are hearable when (and everyone thought US/UK releases were bad) has sort of, in my experience, paradoxically freed a lot of publications' strategy. they know they can get someone to write a quick 15-minute take and then another reviewer several days later, or a week or two of thinkpieces, or what have you

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Saturday, 17 December 2016 02:34 (two months ago) Permalink

This is a personal list, and not published anywhere, but I'm curious what any other writer ILXors' equivalent lists would look like. These are the 10 best 2016 albums I actually paid for. (#s 1-5 are albums I pre-ordered, #6 I bought in a store in Helsinki, #s 7-10 were from Bandcamp.)

1) Metallica, Hardwired…to Self-Destruct
2) Opeth, Sorceress
3) Perturbator, The Uncanny Valley
4) Amon Amarth, Jomsviking
5) Gojira, Magma
6) Nyrkkitappelu, Mitä Saisi Olla?
7) Kurushimi, s/t
8) Air, Astronoid
9) Tommy ’86, Transhumanism
10) Cønjuntø Vacíø, X ≠ X

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Saturday, 17 December 2016 03:48 (two months ago) Permalink

I really like that Kurushimi album. It's like a smoother Zu or something

sushi and the banh mis (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 17 December 2016 07:59 (two months ago) Permalink

posting the RS electronic list

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/20-best-edm-and-electronic-albums-of-2016-w455395

And the records you didn't hear list

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/15-great-albums-you-didnt-hear-in-2016-w456193

I'm definitely getting more out of these specialized lists. I sampled from everything from the didn't hear list (the Elephant9 album made my list last year) and I like most of it, esp Terrace Martin and Phony Ppl.

Fastnbulbous, Saturday, 17 December 2016 14:19 (two months ago) Permalink

yeah that RS "albums you didn't hear" list was good, lived up to its name

sleeve, Saturday, 17 December 2016 15:05 (two months ago) Permalink

(thx Whiney/writers)

sleeve, Saturday, 17 December 2016 15:06 (two months ago) Permalink

I was ready to get all pedantic and say pfft I know albums from that list but I didnt knew a single one. Is any of those worth the time?

dance cum rituals (Moka), Saturday, 17 December 2016 15:16 (two months ago) Permalink

Also their electronic list is better than residentadvisor's!

dance cum rituals (Moka), Saturday, 17 December 2016 15:19 (two months ago) Permalink

That Terrorizer Top 50 Albums of 2016 in full

50. TESTAMENT ‘Brotherhood Of The Snake’ NUCLEAR BLAST
49. KRYPTS ‘Remnants Of Expansion’ DARK DESCENT
48. SABATON ‘The Last Stand’ NUCLEAR BLAST
47. THE WOUNDED KINGS ‘Visions In Bone’ SPINEFARM
46. SLABDRAGGER ‘Rise Of The Dawncrusher’ HOLY ROAR
45. HORSEBACK ‘Dead Ringers’ RELAPSE
44. KVELERTAK ‘Nattesferd’ ROADRUNNER
43. WARDRUNA ‘Rudaljod – Ragnarok’ SEASON OF MIST
42- WRETCH ‘Wretch’ BAD OMEN
41. KATATONIA ‘The Fall Of Hearts’ PEACEVILLE
40. DEVIN TOWNSEND PROJECT ‘Transcendence’ HEVY DEVY/INSIDE OUT
39. CONAN ‘Revengeance’ BLACK BOW
38. DÄLEK ‘Asphalt For Eden’ PROFOUND LORE.
37. BÖLZER ‘Hero’ IRON BONEHEAD
36. GRAF ORLOCK ‘Crime Traveller’ VITRIOL
35. ROTTING CHRIST ‘Rituals’ SEASON OF MIST
34. INTERMENT ‘Scent Of The Buried’ PULVERISED
33. INTER ARMA ‘Paradise Gallows’ RELAPSE
32. DARKHER ‘Realms’ PROPHECY
31. BOSSK ‘Audio Noir’ DEATHWISH
30. GADGET ‘The Great Destroyer’ RELAPSE
29. SWANS ‘The Glowing Man’ MUTE
28. IHSAHN ‘Arktis’ CANDLELIGHT
27. INQUISITION ‘Bloodshed Across The Empyrean Altar Beyond The Celestial Zenith’ SEASON OF MIST
26. DESTRÖYER 666 ‘Wildfire’ SEASON OF MIST
25. ALCEST ‘Kodama’ PROPHECY
24. PURSON ‘Desire’s Magic Theatre’ SPINEFARM
23. THE BODY ‘No One Deserves Happiness’ THRILL JOCKEY
22. BOSS KELOID ‘Herb Your Enthusiasm’ BLACK BOW
21. GOJIRA ‘Magma’ ROADRUNNER
20. WORMROT ‘Voices’ EARACHE
19. URFAUST ‘Empty Space Meditation’ VÁN.
18. GRAVES AT SEA ‘The Curse That Is’ RELAPSE
17. ANAAL NATHRAKH ‘The Whole Of The Law’ METAL BLADE
16. OPETH ‘Sorceress’ NUCLEAR BLAST
15. VEKTOR ‘Terminal Redux’ EARACHE
14. BLOOD INCANTATION ‘Starspawn’ DARK DESCENT
13. DISCHARGE ‘End Of Days’ NUCLEAR BLAST
12. THE DILLINGER ESCAPE PLAN ‘Dissociation’ PARTY SMASHER INC.
11. DEATHSPELL OMEGA ‘The Synarchy Of Molten Bones’ NORMA EVANGELIUM DIABOLI

10. NAILS ‘You Will Never Be One of Us’ NUCLEAR BLAST
9. ORANSSI PAZUZU ‘Värähtelijä’ SVART
8. CULT OF LUNA AND JULIE CHRISTMAS ‘Mariner’ INDIE
7. COBALT ‘Slow Forever’ PROFOUND LORE.
6. SUBROSA ‘For This We Fought The Battle of The Ages’ PROFOUND LORE.
5. 40 WATT SUN ‘Wider Than The Sky’ SVART
4. TRAP THEM ‘Crown Feral’ PROSTHETIC
3. OATHBREAKER ‘Rheia’ DEATHWISH
2. DARKTHRONE ‘Arctic Thunder’ PEACEVILLE
1. NEUROSIS ‘Fires Within Fires’ NEUROT

Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 17 December 2016 15:20 (two months ago) Permalink

I like the Pinkyshinyultrablast LP from that RS list (the name sucks, obviously). Gonna need pretty high tolerance for very noisy tunes, though.

afriendlypioneer, Saturday, 17 December 2016 15:21 (two months ago) Permalink

Also their electronic list is better than residentadvisor's!

Thanks, Moka!

In the last few years I def pushed to get more big tent/festival stuff on there because, duh, we're a general interest publication; but I think "EDM" the big billion dollar network is going back to singles and Soundclouds since there's not much return in traditional album drops. So we had all kinds of weird stuff that ended up filling the spots that would usually be taken up by Jack U or w/e. I was planning on writing Equiknoxx for Albums You Didn't Hear, but there was plenty of room for us to wax about our passion picks

Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, 17 December 2016 15:42 (two months ago) Permalink

Also, Moka, Jambinai is my GAYDH pick if you wanna check my second Sepultura 'Roots' reference this week

Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, 17 December 2016 15:45 (two months ago) Permalink

I... really don't think it's the 24-hour churn. the only person I can speak for is myself, but the problem isn't that I have insufficient time, the problem is that I suck

― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Saturday, December 17, 2016 2:32 AM (fifteen hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ha, from the perspective of myself and my professional insecurities, i have missed out on like 90% of things i wanted to write about in 2015-16 purely through only formulating what i want to say and what argument i want to make a week after all the thinkpieces were published. (it's also weird, as someone who was formed by the internet in many ways, to realise how bad i am at social media in 2k16)

lex pretend, Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:05 (two months ago) Permalink

oh man i feel that lex

maura, Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:08 (two months ago) Permalink

- no ready supply of gifs for every occasion
- still don't know how to make emoji
- would rather die than do a 20-tweet thread because the POINT IS TO BE CONCISE
- still gives up on 90% of tweets because i can't say what i want to in 140 characters
- essentially unable to be funny

let me just scurry back to tennis twitter, it's all i enjoy on there

lex pretend, Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:11 (two months ago) Permalink

I was ready to get all pedantic and say pfft I know albums from that list but I didnt knew a single one. Is any of those worth the time?

― dance cum rituals (Moka), Saturday, December 17, 2016 10:16 AM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The Terrace Martin record is really good, a great companion piece to To Pimp a Butterfly. Terrace was one of the driving forces behind that record's mutated L.A. Jazz and Velvet Portraits boasts a gentler, funkier version of that style (plus some extended instrumentals from TPAB).

The Phony Ppl record is great as well, some amazing songwriting. I voted for it in the ILX albums poll last year

altony rightano (voodoo chili), Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:22 (two months ago) Permalink

Here's LargeUp's soca list. They go by carnival season not calendar year:

1. Voice, “Cheers to Life”
2. Tron, RR Rhythm (feat. Salty, M1, Orlando Octave, Blaxx and Fantom DunDeal)
3. Marz Ville feat. Snap Brandy, “Bang Bim”
(Honorable Mention: Stiffy, “Tek Off Something”)
4. Olatunji, “Oh Yay”
5. Machel Montano, “Need It”
6. Erphaan Alves, “Intentions”
7. Angela Hunte, “Mon Bon Ami”
8. Bunji Garlin, “Take Over Town”
9. King Bubba FM, “Calling in Sick”
10. Kew, “People”
11. GBM Nutron, “Scene”
12. Machel Montano, “Waiting on the Stage”
13. Mason, “Dem Vincy”
14. Ricky T feat. Eempey Slicker, “Freaky Girls”/Motto feat. Problem Child and Mr. Legz, “Bend Dong” (Remix)
15. Machel Montano and Timaya, “Better Than Them”
16. Marvay, “Know The Face”
HONORABLE MENTION: Runtown featuring Machel Montano, Wizkid and Walshy Fire, “Bend Down Pause” (Remix)

rob, Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:35 (two months ago) Permalink

like, to be clear, i am firmly pro SJW, and writers from that perspective are very attuned to how things look from a non industry perspective, which is very valuable bc quite a lot of music writers are way too wrapped up in the industry. but at the same time they mostly don't - and nor is it their job to - pore over credits, dig deep into the tropes of a genre they only casually follow, even consider beyoncé's last two albums in the context of her entire career (side note: how many articles about the s/t and lemonade read as if the writer has never previously heard a beyoncé album?)

which brings me to another problem which is the 24-hour churn! good writers aren't being given the time (OR MONEY) to do the research, a lot of the time.

― lex pretend, Saturday, 17 December 2016 01:33 (twenty hours ago) Permalink

Yeah, I wouldn't say the problem is "those damn SJWs" encroaching on traditional music writing, and more about the way in which the collapse of criticism as an industry and its increasing focus on clickbait content tends to result in all these previous areas of concern (music fandom, celebrity gossip, politics) drifting closer together, because there's no space for them to exist separately from one another, and everyone is looking to maximise eyeballs.

This development feels more entrenched than it perhaps is precisely because it's been embraced by the kinds of organs which also tend (or would otherwise tend) to be less hidebound in their approach to music writing who perhaps recognise it's the best or least worst way to facilitate interesting writing while maintaining an audience, the alternative being to retreat into the safe space of lavish retrospectives and reissue culture. And I think his trend has in fact resulted in some great writing, and that some sites have navigated the new landscape pretty well.

But while on the one hand the last few years have created some upside for writers, the flipside is that the need to find an angle on everything makes it a lot easier to talk about how Beyonce is empowering (insert) or to treat Kanye v T-Swift in exactly the same terms as Bernie v Shillary than it is to write (or rather get commissioned to write) about music where the battle lines aren't already drawn.

You can see this in the exceptions to the rule, too. We (or "we") might complain about an artist like Dawn Richard not getting enough coverage, but one way in which artists like Dawn are a beneficiary of this paradigm (though not enough to stop them from being a net loser overall) is that just about the only angle that works is "underappreciated, visionary genius that you should stop sleeping on" - just because there's a subconscious, reflexive awareness that writing, to be effective now, needs to embed some sort of moral exhortation.

Tim F, Saturday, 17 December 2016 22:42 (two months ago) Permalink

Some fun stuff in the bottom 60 or so:

http://www.undertheradarmag.com/lists/under_the_radars_top_100_albums_of_2016/

Fastnbulbous, Saturday, 17 December 2016 23:35 (two months ago) Permalink

dude crazy kudos to Rolling Stone for a "best you didn't hear" list that's actually (a) good stuff that I (b) didn't hear (save Haley Bonar). one of the best lists of the season so far....

alpine static, Sunday, 18 December 2016 02:52 (two months ago) Permalink

Thanks for the recommendation, Whiney! I will listen to it tomorrow!

dance cum rituals (Moka), Sunday, 18 December 2016 05:02 (two months ago) Permalink

My favorite albums of 2016.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 18 December 2016 05:28 (two months ago) Permalink

(Psst you know that Redemption is losted both at 11 & 13?)

sushi and the banh mis (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 18 December 2016 08:22 (two months ago) Permalink

Caught -- thanks.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 18 December 2016 12:54 (two months ago) Permalink

Maybe I'm just getting older, but The Wire Rewind list looks pretty good to me this year.

MikoMcha, Monday, 19 December 2016 08:04 (two months ago) Permalink

could someone post the genre-specific wire lists ?

ANU (sisilafami), Monday, 19 December 2016 10:57 (two months ago) Permalink

the saidthegramophone list really is awesome
(as per)

nxd, Monday, 19 December 2016 11:13 (two months ago) Permalink

popjustice
https://www.popjustice.com/articles/the-top-45-singles-of-2016/

nxd, Monday, 19 December 2016 16:55 (two months ago) Permalink

The NorteñoBlog list is interesting, at least in part because most folks here (including me) will not have heard the majority of the norteño albums on it.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Monday, 19 December 2016 17:30 (two months ago) Permalink

popjustice albums
http://www.clickhole.com/article/5-disney-princesses-reimagined-caucasian-698

r|t|c, Monday, 19 December 2016 18:25 (two months ago) Permalink

lol

forgive me fader for I have sinned (wins), Monday, 19 December 2016 18:29 (two months ago) Permalink

lmao

J0rdan S., Monday, 19 December 2016 18:31 (two months ago) Permalink

RA Poll: Top mixes, compilations and reissues of 2016 - https://www.residentadvisor.net/features/2861

Some good stuff on there. Still find it weird though how hard RA rep Giegling tho, it's like I never see or hear any reference to that label anywhere else.

MikoMcha, Monday, 19 December 2016 20:44 (two months ago) Permalink

I like that EP by DJ Metatron (Traumprinz) that came out on Giegling this year, "2 the Sky"

Dan S, Monday, 19 December 2016 22:16 (two months ago) Permalink

Hey, check it out, Vice have done an actual list instead of the unfunny joke list they do every year!

http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/the-vice-albums-of-the-year-2016

...oh hold on, it's just another, even less funny version of the unfunny joke list they do every year.

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Monday, 19 December 2016 22:40 (two months ago) Permalink

Giegling is just nu-Kompakt, sad emotive techno that lends writing about dance music a perceived sense of legitimacy that covering Jamie Jones and Dusky doesn't because writers can talk about melancholia instead of ecstacy.

I've been sensing that Popjustice is feeling old and uninterested in actual pop music for a while and that list has me now fully convinced.

boxedjoy, Monday, 19 December 2016 22:41 (two months ago) Permalink

sad emotive techno is one of the best things

Number None, Monday, 19 December 2016 22:48 (two months ago) Permalink

it's not that I don't think Giegling have put out some good releases or love a bit of soft sad techno, it's more just that I don't think it's surprising the way those releases get spoken about with such reverence. Pantha Du Prince and The Field have kept doing their thing with lesser results, Kompakt have been churning out mostly fart-bass rote tech-house of late, Villalobos has been making music that doesn't have the same immediate appeal as the stuff he was doing ten years ago - their aesthetic is similarly populist but fresh enough to warrant attention.

boxedjoy, Monday, 19 December 2016 22:57 (two months ago) Permalink

I would probably take all the Pampa Records over Giegling but they seem a little more functional and that's a harder sell when your content is EOY catch-ups for (the type of) people not paying attention all year

(this is a bad example because Pampa didn't release much this year but the intent is there)

boxedjoy, Monday, 19 December 2016 23:00 (two months ago) Permalink

Prepare your sneers!

Classic Rock
http://teamrock.com/feature/2016-11-25/the-best-rock-albums-of-2016

― Fastnbulbous

YOU KILLED THEM

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Monday, 19 December 2016 23:26 (two months ago) Permalink

or more likely their entire subscriber base cancelled in rage over #RaittGate

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Tuesday, 20 December 2016 02:47 (two months ago) Permalink

I was actually poking fun at those who do sneer at the type of stuff covered by Classic Rock. I like the mag, a friend at work subscribed and would pass on the issues of that and Metal Hammer and Prog magazine. They're all gone, which is sad. So apparently is Rock A Rolla, which hasn't had a new issue since summer. I hope Terrorizer isn't next.

Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 20 December 2016 05:53 (two months ago) Permalink

Happy to learn, from the Under the Radar list, that Springtime Carnivore put out a new album this year. And it's good!

geoffreyess, Tuesday, 20 December 2016 06:48 (two months ago) Permalink

quelle surprise that vice thing is the fucking unfunniest + worst

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 20 December 2016 12:49 (two months ago) Permalink

that vice thing really is like being clubbed over the head with a dinosaur bone. you would almost think it directly provoked by flopson's post the other day comparing the tone then and now

r|t|c, Tuesday, 20 December 2016 13:20 (two months ago) Permalink

i will assume my browser blocked several adverts for 55dsl as i read it

r|t|c, Tuesday, 20 December 2016 13:24 (two months ago) Permalink

The Terrace Martin record is really good, a great companion piece to To Pimp a Butterfly. Terrace was one of the driving forces behind that record's mutated L.A. Jazz and Velvet Portraits boasts a gentler, funkier version of that style (plus some extended instrumentals from TPAB).

Yeah, it's good. I was surprised there wasn't more interest, given the TPAB connection. Maybe if Kendrick hadn't dropped another record 3 weeks earlier it would have received attention.

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Tuesday, 20 December 2016 13:44 (two months ago) Permalink

I wanted to like the Terrace Martin album more than I did.

That said, Kamasi Washington bassist Miles Mosley's album, which comes out at the end of January, is fantastic. Keep an eye out for that one.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 20 December 2016 14:21 (two months ago) Permalink

Caroline Sullivan
Albums
Warpaint – Heads Up
Madam – Back to the Sea
Suede – Night Thoughts
The Anchoress – Confessions of a Romance Novelist
Ala.Ni – You & I
Pretenders – Alone
Jem – Beachwood Canyon
Lady Gaga – Joanne
Tanita Tikaram – Closer to the People
Josienne Clark and Ben Walker – Overnight

I've never liked Caroline Sullivan as a writer but some begrudging respect is due for this.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 20 December 2016 14:42 (two months ago) Permalink

Yeah, that's quite a selection.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 20 December 2016 14:46 (two months ago) Permalink

see also the guy who put Marillion at #1

nashwan, Tuesday, 20 December 2016 14:56 (two months ago) Permalink

noodle vague writes for the guardian?

Cosmic Slop, Tuesday, 20 December 2016 14:57 (two months ago) Permalink

oh my lord

illbient microtonal poetry Surbiton (imago), Tuesday, 20 December 2016 15:14 (two months ago) Permalink

Was it Dom Lawson btw?

Cosmic Slop, Tuesday, 20 December 2016 15:17 (two months ago) Permalink

btw we are into the top 25 of the ILM poll
Fuck Brumpxit its the 2016 Metal and Hard N' Heavy Rock Poll Results Thread (With spotify and bandcamp links)

will finish wednesday I think

Cosmic Slop, Tuesday, 20 December 2016 15:28 (two months ago) Permalink

here are my ~final standings~

ALBUMS
1. Dawn Richard, Redemption
2. King, We Are King
3. Beyoncé, Lemonade
4. Miranda Lambert, The Weight Of These Wings
5. Ariana Grande, Dangerous Woman
6. Cardi B, Gangsta Bitch Music, Vol. 1
7. Brandy Clark, Big Day In A Small Town
8. Kaitlyn Aurelia Smith, Ears
9. K. Michelle, More Issues Than Vogue
10. Hannah Peel, Awake But Always Dreaming
11. Solange, A Seat At The Table
12. Britney Spears, Glory
13. Brothers Osborne, Pawn Shop
14. Anohni, Hopelessness
15. Maren Morris, Hero
16. Raime, Tooth
17. Rae Sremmurd, SremmLife 2
18. Nina Kraviz, Fabric 91
19. Jamila Woods, Heavn
20. P Money, Live And Direct
21. Tweet, Charlene
22. Leonard Cohen, You Want It Darker
23. Maxwell, blackSUMMERS'night
24. Trim, 1-800 Dinosaur Presents: Trim
25. Kyle Hall, From Joy
26. Róisín Murphy, Take Her Up To Monto
27. Ricky Blaze, Conquer The Moment
28. Corinne Bailey Rae, The Heart Speaks In Whispers
29. Kevin Gates, Islah
30. Floorplan, Victorious

TRAX
1. Beyoncé, "Formation" / Lōtic, "Formation (Election Anxiety/America Is Over Edit)"
2. Avalon Emerson, "The Frontier"
3. Dreezy ft. Jeremih, "Body"
4. Mazi Chukz ft. Maleek Berry, "Dem Hail"
5. Yemi Alade, "Koffi Anan"
6. Charly Black, "Gyal You A Party Animal"
7. Rihanna, "Needed Me"
8. Kiss Daniel, "Mama"
9. Young M.A, "Ooouuu"
10. Fantasia, "Ugly"
11. Krishane ft. Patoranking, "Inconsiderate"
12. Tory Lanez, "Luv"
13. Tekno, "Pana"
14. Èbony, "Real Truth"
15. Miguel ft. Kacey Musgraves, "Waves (Remix)"
16. Dexta Daps, "Trigger Finger"
17. Carrie Underwood, "Church Bells"
18. Alkaline, "One More Time"
19. Dawn Richard, "Not Above That"
20. Konshens, "Bruk Off Mi Cock"
21. Zara Larsson, "Ain't My Fault"
22. ShiiKane, "Loke"
23. Kwamz & Flava, "Take Over"
24. Kehlani, "24/7"
25. Double S ft. JME, "Style & Flows"
26. Shay, "PMW"
27. Fifth Harmony, "Big Bad Wolf"
28. Nadia Rose, "Skwod"
29. Karen Gwyer, "Prophase Metaphase Anaphase"
30. Eva Alordiah ft. Phyno & Reminisce, "Kanayo"
31. Sevyn Streeter ft. Gucci Mane, "Prolly"
32. Sir Spyro ft. Teddy Bruckshot, Lady Chann & Killa P, "Topper Top"
33. GBM Nutron ft. Fay-Ann Lyons, "Scene"
34. Paul Woolford, "Heaven & Earth Part 2"
35. Tinie Tempah ft. Zara Larsson, "Girls Like"
36. Spice, "Indicator"
37. Babes Wodumo ft. Mampintsha, "Wololo"
38. Alicia Keys, "In Common (Black Coffee Remix)"
39. Young John ft. Lil Kesh, "Bend Down Select"
40. Mella ft. P-Square, "Ginger"
41. Serge Beynaud, "Remanbélé"
42. AY ft. Diamond Platnumz, "Zigo (Remix)"
43. Stunnah Gee ft. Davido, "Dengeme"
44. Equiknoxx ft. Devin Di Dakta, "Bubble"
45. Bjarki, "Bæpolar"
46. No Lay, "Gotta Love It"
47. Reniss, "La Sauce"
48. Keke Palmer ft. Jeremih, "Enemiez"
49. Fat Joe & Remy Ma ft. French Montana, "All The Way Up"
50. Lil Uzi Vert, "Money Longer"

EPs
1. Melanie De Biasio, Blackened Cities
2. Abra, Princess
3. Willow, Workshop 23
4. AJ Tracey, Lil Tracey
5. Jammz, Warrior

lex pretend, Tuesday, 20 December 2016 15:43 (two months ago) Permalink

oh bollocks i meant to post that on the "your own fav tracks" thread!!! never mind

lex pretend, Tuesday, 20 December 2016 15:43 (two months ago) Permalink

Probably an unfair gripe but checking out a few things on the FACT/Boomkat lists that I hadn't heard and... I'm just feeling uninspired. A lot of it seems to be trying hard to be forward-thinking and current, but it's all just a bit empty. This kind of hipstery quasi-dance makes me feel like I'm trapped in a perpetual 2010 listening to Joy Orbison and early James Blake EPs. Just don't see the point in that Lorenzo Senni thing at all...

Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Tuesday, 20 December 2016 16:52 (two months ago) Permalink

that is unfair... precious few works of art can ever hope to attain the level of dog latin eureka moment

r|t|c, Tuesday, 20 December 2016 17:30 (two months ago) Permalink

The Jazzwise Top 20 Jazz Albums of 2016

A lot of good records on this list, and several I haven't heard but am interested to check out.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 20 December 2016 17:39 (two months ago) Permalink

FACT's trax list is out:

http://www.factmag.com/2016/12/20/50-best-tracks-2016/

Dan S, Tuesday, 20 December 2016 18:14 (two months ago) Permalink

And sure, it may be packed with the overdone “where the hoes, though?” lyrics and vows of “the bro code”, but here it is enacted by one of the first queer voices to dominate legitimate top 40 radio.

"fact" magazine

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 20 December 2016 18:41 (two months ago) Permalink

:|

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 20 December 2016 18:43 (two months ago) Permalink

for the life of me I do not understand the appeal of Maren Morris

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 20 December 2016 18:43 (two months ago) Permalink

i never want to begrudge popcaan this sort of limelight - he is indeed a special, alluring, maybe iconic artist and 'ova dweet' is pretty magic - but it does kinda suck that truthfully i only like it maybe 2% more, somedays, than '7 days' by vershon on the same riddim

https://soundcloud.com/dancehallpromo/vershon-7-days-clean-ova-dweet-riddim

it was popular too! it would be nice to think that Murlo, Swing Ting and Hipster’s Don’t Dance, not to mention Mixpak boss Dre Skull also felt a twinge of grief at its sacrifice to the popcuult.

r|t|c, Tuesday, 20 December 2016 20:06 (two months ago) Permalink

for the life of me I do not understand the appeal of Maren Morris

― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, December 20, 2016 6:43 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

album reminds me of a young taylor swift but more worldly

lex pretend, Tuesday, 20 December 2016 20:09 (two months ago) Permalink

yeah that is the same feel i get from it—hooks and attitude for days. "once" is devastating

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 20 December 2016 20:15 (two months ago) Permalink

every time i came back to that record i liked it even more

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 20 December 2016 20:15 (two months ago) Permalink

Just don't see the point in that Lorenzo Senni thing at all...

won't lie, i enjoyed that record a lot

NickB, Tuesday, 20 December 2016 22:09 (two months ago) Permalink

I will keep trying because I would love to be on the same page as you fine folks

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 20 December 2016 22:10 (two months ago) Permalink

The Dinosaur album on the Jazzwise list caught my attention. It sounds good - a fluid and funky electric Miles sound.

https://dinosaurband.bandcamp.com/album/together-as-one

jmm, Wednesday, 21 December 2016 04:34 (two months ago) Permalink

jazzwise list needs links/embeds with songs from those albums

niels, Wednesday, 21 December 2016 09:00 (two months ago) Permalink

also nice blurb for one of the top jazz albums of 2016:

Bob Dylan’s ‘Masters of War’ could have been successfully edited to half its length, for example, in its present form an amiable noodle, and this seems to be the destiny of several songs. Part of the problem is the laid back playing of Bill Frisell, who sounds as if he could barely get out of bed in the morning. Lloyd plays well, but he does need someone to bounce off. There are nice moments: ‘Abide With Me’ would please the Anfield faithful, ‘All My Trials’ has elegance as long as Lloyd is at the microphone, while Willie Nelson’s ‘Last Night I Had the Strangest Dream’ somehow works in the context of the album. Dear old Norah Jones – she who bank rolled the survival of the Blue Note label – is unmistakably Norah, if you like that sort of thing. Great for iPod listening since this functions well as undemanding background music.
Stuart Nicholson

niels, Wednesday, 21 December 2016 09:02 (two months ago) Permalink

here's the boston globe's, which is also mine

https://www.bostonglobe.com/arts/music/2016/12/22/top-pop-albums/rFepkffDwQWJsBguJ1IPgM/story.html

maura, Friday, 23 December 2016 13:08 (two months ago) Permalink

The AV Club's Least Essential Albums of 2016

(the Clones blurb made me lol)

rhymes with "blondie blast" (cryptosicko), Friday, 23 December 2016 13:59 (two months ago) Permalink

Good list

niels, Friday, 23 December 2016 16:56 (two months ago) Permalink

Other Music staff

http://www.othermusic.com/blogs/staff-picks/other-music-staff-picks-for-2016

Evan, Friday, 23 December 2016 17:22 (two months ago) Permalink

Radio 3's Late Junction show:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/1kKy56yZYw6dcwtlx2hbBJy/the-late-junction-albums-of-2016

soref, Friday, 23 December 2016 23:09 (two months ago) Permalink

RA tracks:

https://www.residentadvisor.net/features/2862

Dan S, Saturday, 24 December 2016 07:41 (two months ago) Permalink

That RA list is solid

Everything Moves Towards The Sun (Ross), Saturday, 24 December 2016 23:40 (two months ago) Permalink

that somanyshrimp list is solid

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Saturday, 24 December 2016 23:59 (two months ago) Permalink

Electronic Sound mag Top 24 albums (unveiled advent calendar style on their blog)

1. Hannah Peel
2. Beyond the Wizard's Sleeve
3. Anna Meredith
4. V/A - Close To The Noise Floor: Formative UK Electronica 1975-1984
5. Lambchop
6. Blancmange
7. onDeadWaves
8. Gold Panda
9. Wrangler
10. Silver Apples
11. Brian Eno
12. Oliver Coates
13. Yello
14. The Orb
15. Cavern of Anti-Matter
16. S U R V I V E
17. Floorplan
18. Let's Eat Grandma
19. Mark Pritchard
20. Graingerboy
21. Fakear
22. The Pattern Forms
23. Baltic Fleet
24. Reed & Caroline

Jeff W, Sunday, 25 December 2016 00:16 (one month ago) Permalink

The System EP re-release on Music from Memory is like the ancestral origin point of Junior Boys.

MikoMcha, Tuesday, 27 December 2016 10:23 (one month ago) Permalink

Also Digital Zandoli, man. This comp is so good! Was trying to ID Puzzle Pulsion - Mwoin Ka Songe from maybe a Young Marco set a while back? Anyway... other instant gems: Selekta - Fle Pou' W and Milton - Mizik Nou.

MikoMcha, Tuesday, 27 December 2016 10:27 (one month ago) Permalink

Afisha's top 20 international albums of the year:

20. Jenny Hval - Blood Bitch
19. Angel Olsen - My Woman
18. Zomby - Ultra
17. PJ Harvey - The Hope Six Demolition Project
16. Kaytranada - 99.9%
15. Rihanna - Anti
14. Drake - Views
13. Kendrick Lamar - untitled unmastered.
12. Jessy Lanza - Oh No
11. Anderson .Paak - Malibu
10. The Weeknd - Starboy
9. A Tribe Called Quest - We Got It from Here… Thank You 4 Your Service
8. Anohni - Hopelessness
7. Solange - A Seat at the Table
6. David Bowiw - Blackstar
5. Skepta - Konnichiwa
4. Blood Orange- Freetown Sound
3. Frank Ocean - Blond
2. Kanye West - The Life of Pablo
1. Beyonce - Lemonade

Their Russian list is a bit more interesting:

20. Gromyka - Akrobatenka
19. Buerak - Tantsi Po Raschetu
18. Auktsion - Na Solntse
17. Pika - A L F V
16. Pharaoh - Fosfor
15. NV - Binasu
14. Monetochka - Psikhodelicheskii Klaud Rep
13. Basta - Basta 5
12. Ne Tvoe Delo - Best Hits
11. Monatik - Zvuchit
10. Del'fin - Ona
9. Maks Korsch - Malii Povzroslel
8. L'One - Gravitatsiya
7. Megapolis - Zerolines
6. Antokha MC - Rodnya
5. Luna - Magniti
4. ГШ - Oeshch Magziu
3. Gribi - Dom Na Kolesakh
2. Thomas Mrvz - May 13
1. Kaspiiskii Gruz - The Brutto

No Mujuice on the Russian list is very surprising.

Bubba H.O.T.A.P.E (ShariVari), Tuesday, 27 December 2016 11:13 (one month ago) Permalink

^^ Focuses on louder alt-rock and indie.

billstevejim, Tuesday, 27 December 2016 20:31 (one month ago) Permalink

My annual avant list :)

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/20-best-avant-albums-of-2016-w455706

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 28 December 2016 15:08 (one month ago) Permalink

It might just be my browser but suddenly everything is centered on the page starting at #17

Evan, Wednesday, 28 December 2016 15:26 (one month ago) Permalink

Scene leader Masami Akita (better known as Merzbow) and Steely Dan–esque. . .

This sounds promising already.

_Rudipherous_, Wednesday, 28 December 2016 15:33 (one month ago) Permalink

"Disorienting and gorgeous." just embarrassing overpraise

Mordy, Wednesday, 28 December 2016 15:36 (one month ago) Permalink

Great list Whiney! Bonus points for Wadada Leo Smith (should've been top 3) Writing about avant music is hard I gather... the more experimental it gets the harder it is to explain to someone why they should listen to it and what it sounds like if there's no references.

dance cum rituals (Moka), Wednesday, 28 December 2016 15:50 (one month ago) Permalink

Whitney - glad to know someone else liked the Fox/Soper Duo record.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 28 December 2016 15:58 (one month ago) Permalink

oren ambarchi too low

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Wednesday, 28 December 2016 16:01 (one month ago) Permalink

nice list Whiney, looking forward to following up the stuff i haven't already listened to

Rock Wokeman (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 28 December 2016 16:02 (one month ago) Permalink

lol mordy

if you translate back from blurbese you basically get something indistinguishable from the random set of posts singled out in those two locked threads - wasn't there also a (v coherent I'm sure) critique of stranger things along the lines of this is good but ¿retromania? People got REALLY MAD iirc, fun all round

can't front tho, that list has most of the new albums I listened to this year on it :-( :-)

forgive me fader for I have sinned (wins), Wednesday, 28 December 2016 16:14 (one month ago) Permalink

loved that battle trance album; would like to see it popping up on lists
not everything but: whiney tries

A big shout out goes to the lamb chops, thos lamb chops (ulysses), Wednesday, 28 December 2016 16:23 (one month ago) Permalink

lots of stuff on Whiney's list that I want to check out, nice work dude

sleeve, Wednesday, 28 December 2016 16:33 (one month ago) Permalink

^^^ really love how they redesigned the album art in the top ten

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Wednesday, 28 December 2016 18:15 (one month ago) Permalink

The cassette and CD-R underground has been mining the knob-twiddling era of Tangerine Dream and Vangelis for more than a decade now, but the wildly popular series mixed with Dixon and Stein's diverse emotional palette will likely make this a gateway to the experimental music upside-down for years.

love this

just another (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 28 December 2016 20:52 (one month ago) Permalink

Overblown’s 10 Best Japanese Albums of 2016. Was going to cut and paste names and titles, but they've made it too difficult to do so.

(I don't know anything about Overblown.)

_Rudipherous_, Wednesday, 28 December 2016 21:52 (one month ago) Permalink

The cassette and CD-R underground has been mining the knob-twiddling era of Tangerine Dream and Vangelis for more than a decade now, but the wildly popular series mixed with Dixon and Stein's diverse emotional palette will likely make this a gateway to the experimental music upside-down for years.

love this

― just another (diamonddave85), Wednesday, December 28, 2016 3:52 PM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Thanks, Dave, that sentence was the result of an IRL convo with a Brooklyn record store clerk who def wasn't impressed with Dixon/Stein since he's seen an entire wave of analog synth festishists come and go, and was def trendy in the BK around 2010: Emeralds, the first three Oneohtrix Point Never records, RVNG Itnl reissues, all the way through the last Boards of Canada record. I think the fact that the Stranger Things soundtrack has been a commercial and cultural success proves that it's resonating with people way beyond the universe that reads Gorilla Vs Bear and can recognize a Robert Beatty drawing. Its actually turning people on to synths and synth culture and, one would believe, eventually, this whole universe of space-rock, drone, horror soundtracks, or w/e... I do wonder if the "lol simpsons did it" attitude affected its lack of acclaim at "cool" places like The Wire, The Quietus and Pitchfork. But I'm pretty certain this is gonna have a pretty big impact on a lot of young people who never bought a record of noises and drones.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 29 December 2016 01:57 (one month ago) Permalink

I do wonder if the "lol simpsons did it" attitude affected its lack of acclaim at "cool" places like The Wire, The Quietus and Pitchfork.

I think in The WIre's case, it was probably more a case of "we've been covering this kind of music for a decade or so already, and frankly this iteration is...just okay." They reviewed both volumes of the soundtrack, and the Survive album, in the electronic column in the October issue, and called it "a capable xerox of gestures from 80s Tangerine Dream (the opening theme plunders The Keep), Jean-Michel Jarre and Timewind-era Klaus Schulze."

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 29 December 2016 02:11 (one month ago) Permalink

I think there's room for both what Whiney is saying and what Wire feels about SURVIVE/ST soundtrack. It's great if this music opens the door for youngsters though! I personally feel "It Follows" soundtrack did this thing better in the mainstream first.

Everything Moves Towards The Sun (Ross), Thursday, 29 December 2016 02:17 (one month ago) Permalink

or "under the skin" tbh

A big shout out goes to the lamb chops, thos lamb chops (ulysses), Thursday, 29 December 2016 07:39 (one month ago) Permalink

Hm, I don't really associate Mica Levi's work with retro-aesthetics.

MikoMcha, Thursday, 29 December 2016 09:00 (one month ago) Permalink

If anything it's utterly contemporary.

MikoMcha, Thursday, 29 December 2016 09:01 (one month ago) Permalink

SURVIVE/ST soundtrack is total member berries.

MikoMcha, Thursday, 29 December 2016 09:26 (one month ago) Permalink

whiney hypocrisy so lame that mark fisher and simon reynolds died immediately

r|t|c, Thursday, 29 December 2016 12:59 (one month ago) Permalink

Thought Whiney was on team KAS Is Dull but looks like we've lost a good man

illbient microtonal poetry Surbiton (imago), Thursday, 29 December 2016 13:28 (one month ago) Permalink

Keen to check out other stuff on that list though

illbient microtonal poetry Surbiton (imago), Thursday, 29 December 2016 13:32 (one month ago) Permalink

Friend's list. Interesting stuff!

http://resonantspace.blogspot.com/2016/12/best-improvised-and-creative-music-of_28.html

Evan, Thursday, 29 December 2016 13:59 (one month ago) Permalink

lol at "Creative Music" but that's an intriguing list

my hangover is a time machine (seandalai), Thursday, 29 December 2016 14:30 (one month ago) Permalink

I must be a very "creative" person cos I very much like a load of that shit :p

calzino, Thursday, 29 December 2016 15:19 (one month ago) Permalink

am dying to hear that Nuova Camerata one and have read a few people repping for it.

calzino, Thursday, 29 December 2016 15:22 (one month ago) Permalink

http://www.offbeat.com/articles/50-best-albums-2016/

New Orleans magazine's fave Louisiana releases

1.Aaron Neville: Apache

2. Roddie Romero & the Hub City All-Stars: Gulfstream

3. Allen Toussaint: American Tunes

4. Bobby Rush: Porcupine Meat

5. Honey Island Swamp Band: Demolition Day

curmudgeon, Thursday, 29 December 2016 16:50 (one month ago) Permalink

xp to miko: i see a thruline personally

i really need to listen to that touss album

A big shout out goes to the lamb chops, thos lamb chops (ulysses), Friday, 30 December 2016 06:31 (one month ago) Permalink

http://www.southernsoulrnb.com/corner2016.cfm

Blogger Daddy B. Nice's list of southern soul tracks and albums

His top singles include :

“My Sidepiece” by The Louisiana Blues Brothas featuring Big Pokey Bear

“I Got This Record” by J-Wonn

“Hey Mr. Sexy Man” by Nellie “Tiger” Travis

His top albums include:

LaMorris Williams --- Mississippi Motown

William Bell --- This Is Where I Live

Bigg Robb --- Showtime

Ms. Jody --- I Got The Feeling

curmudgeon, Friday, 30 December 2016 15:26 (one month ago) Permalink

Overblown’s 10 Best Japanese Albums of 2016. Was going to cut and paste names and titles, but they've made it too difficult to do so.

(I don't know anything about Overblown.)

mitsume's A Long Day is fantastic. Thanks for sharing this list.

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 30 December 2016 16:37 (one month ago) Permalink

2016 in review: Journeys in Acoustic, Primitive, & Experimental Folk

https://stationarytravels.wordpress.com/2016/12/30/2016-in-review-journeys-in-acoustic-primitive-experimental-folk/

I like all the ones I know from this list so I'm definitely going to check out the rest.

Dinsdale, Friday, 30 December 2016 18:08 (one month ago) Permalink

Late pass but this Fox/Soper Duo album is the shit!

U2 (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 31 December 2016 07:25 (one month ago) Permalink

Dinsdale - Thanks for posting that, reposted in the ilx post Fahey/takoma thread

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 31 December 2016 13:25 (one month ago) Permalink

U2 (Drugs A. Money)
Late pass but this Fox/Soper Duo album is the shit!

Yup.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 31 December 2016 15:32 (one month ago) Permalink

http://musicwontsaveyou.com/2017/01/01/rearview-mirror-2016

One of my favourite curators. You`ll need to wade through the google translation if you don`t read Italian.

doug watson, Sunday, 1 January 2017 14:28 (one month ago) Permalink

I shouldn't leave out the stoner/psych/doom reps!

The Obelisk
http://theobelisk.net/obelisk/2016/12/20/top-30-of-2016/

1. SubRosa, For this We Fought the Battle of Ages
2. Mars Red Sky, Apex III (Praise for the Burning Soul)
3. Gozu, Revival
4. Asteroid, III
5. Brant Bjork, Tao of the Devil
6. Greenleaf, Rise Above the Meadow
7. Wight, Love is Not Only What You Know
8. King Buffalo, Orion
9. Wo Fat, Midnight Cometh
10. Slomatics, Future Echo Returns
11. Mos Generator, Abyssinia
12. Elephant Tree, Elephant Tree
13. Zun, Burial Sunrise
14. Hexvessel, When We are Death
15. Fatso Jetson, Idle Hands
16. EYE, Vision and the Ageless Light
17. Geezer, Geezer
18. Baby Woodrose, Freedom
19. Conan, Revengeance
20. Neurosis, Fires Within Fires
21. Curse the Son, Isolator
22. The Golden Grass, Coming Back Again
23. Borracho, Atacama
24. Black Rainbows, Stellar Prophecy
25. 1000mods, Repeated Exposure To…
25a. Egypt, Endless Flight
26. Foghound, The World Unseen
27. Beelzefuzz, The Righteous Bloom
28. Droids Attack, Sci-Fi or Die
29. Comet Control, Center of the Maze
30. Talmud Beach, Chief
31. Blaak Heat, Shifting Mirrors
32. Truckfighters, V
33. West, Space & Love, Vol. II
34. Seedy Jeezus with Isaiah Mitchell, Tranquonauts
35. Yawning Man, Historical Graffiti
36. Causa Sui, Return to Sky
37. Vokonis, Olde One Ascending
38. Hotel Wrecking City Traders, Phantomonium
39. The Wounded Kings, Visions in Bone
40. It’s Not Night: It’s Space, Our Birth is but a Sleep and a Forgetting
41. Beastwars, The Death of all Things
42. Naxatras, II
43. Holy Grove, Holy Grove
44. Worshipper, Shadow Hymns
45. Wretch, Wretch
46. Colour Haze, Live Vol. I: Europa Tournee 2015
47. Zaum, Eidolon
48. Bellringer, Jettison
49. Young Hunter, Young Hunter
50. Mammoth Weed Wizard Bastard, Y Proffwyd Dwyll

Obelisk Readers
http://theobelisk.net/obelisk/2017/01/01/the-top-20-of-2016-year-end-poll-results/

1. Wo Fat, Midnight Cometh (375 points)
2. Greenleaf, Rise Above the Meadow (368)
3. Elephant Tree, Elephant Tree (324)
4. Asteroid, III (302)
5. Brant Bjork, Tao of the Devil (295)
6. Gozu, Revival (274)
7. Neurosis, Fires Within Fires (253)
8. King Buffalo, Orion (244)
9. Mars Red Sky, Apex III (Praise for the Burning Soul) (238)
10. Conan, Revengeance (232)
11. Cough, Still They Pray (228)
12. Holy Grove, Holy Grove (218)
13. SubRosa, For this We Fought the Battle of Ages (213)
14. Truckfighters, V (206)
15. Blood Ceremony, Lord of Misrule (200)
16. Khemmis, Hunted (192)
16. Red Fang, Only Ghosts (192)
17. Inter Arma, Paradise Gallows (181)
18. Witchcraft, Nucleus (174)
19. Opeth, Sorceress (173)
20. Church of Misery, And then there Were None (159)

Honorable mention to:
Causa Sui, Return to Sky (157)
Goatess, II: Purgatory Under New Management (157)
Black Mountain, IV (148)
Mos Generator, Abyssinia (144)
Wretch, Wretch (140)

Outlaws Of The Sun
http://outlawsofthesun.blogspot.com/2016/12/steve-howe-top-albums-of-2016.html

01. Geezer – Geezer
02. Cough – Still They Prey
03. Truckfighters – V
04. Elephant Tree – Elephant Tree
05. Brant Bjork – Tao Of The Devil
06. Haast's Eagled – II: For Mankind
07. Slomatics –Future Echo Returns
08. Slow Green Thing – II
09. Slabdragger – Rise Of The Dawncrusher
10. Kvelertak – Nattesferd
11. Holy Serpent – Temples
12. House Of Lightning – House Of Lightning
13. Comacozer – Astra Planeta
14. Demonauta – Tierra Del Fuego
15. Year Of The Cobra – In The Shadows Below
16. Conan – Revengeance
17. Mars Red Sky – Apex III (Praise For The Burning Soul)
18. Vokonis – Olde One Ascending
19. High Fighter – Scars & Crosses
20. Domkraft - The End Of Electricity
21. Greenleaf – Meadow
22. Borracho – Atacama
23. Wo Fat – Midnight Cometh
24. Sourvein – Aquatic Occult
25. Megatherium – Superbeast

Stoner Hive
http://stonerhive.blogspot.nl/2016/12/the-countdown-so-far.html

1. Greenleaf - Rise Above The Meadow
2. 1000mods – Repeated Exposure To…
3. Asteroid – III
4. Goatess – Purgatory Under New Management
5. COUGH – Still They Pray
6. Egypt - Doom – Endless Flight & Wasted Theory – Defenders Of The Riff
7. Witchcraft – Nucleus
8. Wo Fat – Midnight Cometh
9. DUNSMUIR – Dunsmuir
10. Sinister Haze – Laid Low in the Dust of Death & Geezer – Geezer
11. Wretch – Wretch
12. Holy Serpent – Temples & Curse the Son – Isolator
13. Brant Bjork – Tao Of The Devil
14. Truckfighters– V & Elephant Tree – Elephant Tree
15. Gojira – Magma & BLACK RAINBOWS – Stellar Prophecy
16. Baby Woodrose – Freedom & Mars Red Sky – Apex III (Praise For The Burning Soul)
17. Mos Generator – Abyssinia
18. Baroness – Purple
19. Komatsu – Recipe For Murder One
20. The Re-Stoned – Reptiles Return

Doom Charts
https://doomcharts.com/2016/12/31/best-of-2016/

1. ASTEROID – III
2. WO FAT – MIDNIGHT COMETH
3. COUGH – STILL THEY PRAY
4. ELEPHANT TREE – ELEPHANT TREE
5. GEEZER – GEEZER
6. BRANT BJORK – TAO OF THE DEVIL
7. WITCHCRAFT – NUCLEUS
8. GREENLEAF – RISE ABOVE THE MEADOW
9. YEAR OF THE COBRA – IN THE SHADOWS BELOW
10. VOKONIS – OLDE ONE ASCENDING
11. WRETCH – WRETCH
12. BORRACHO – ATACAMA
13. BRIMSTONE COVEN – BLACK MAGIC
14. SLOMATICS – FUTURE ECHO RETURNS
15. CONAN – REVENGEANCE
16. YOUNGBLOOD SUPERCULT – HIGH PLAINS
17. BABY WOODROSE – FREEDOM
18. GOATESS – PURGATORY UNDER NEW MANAGEMENT
19. GOZU – REVIVAL
20. SVVAMP – SVVAMP
21. SLABDRAGGER – RISE OF THE DAWNCRUSHER
22. LA CHINGA – FREEWHEELIN
23. DOMKRAFT – THE END OF ELECTRICITY
24. MAMMOTH WEED WIZARD BASTARD – Y PROFFWYD DWYLL
25. KING BUFFALO – ORION
26. FOGHOUND – THE WORLD UNSEEN
27. TRUCKFIGHTERS – V
28. WITCHTHROAT SERPENT – SANG-DRAGON
29. MOS GENERATOR – ABYSSINIA
30. HOWLING GIANT – BLACK HOLE SPACE WIZARD PART 1
31. MARS RED SKY – APEX III (Praise for the Burning Soul)
32. WASTED THEORY – DEFENDERS OF THE RIFF
33. MEPHISTOFELES – WHORE
34. DEMONAUTA – TIERRA DEL FUEGO
35. 1000MODS – REPEATED EXPOSURE TO…
36. BEASTMAKER – LUSUS NATURAE
37. LORD VAPOUR – MILL STREET BLUES
38. SALEM’S POT – PRONOUNCE THIS!
39. CHURCH OF MISERY – AND THEN THERE WERE NONE…
40. KHEMMIS – HUNTED
41. DUNSMUIR – DUNSMUIR
42. OLD BLOOD – OLD BLOOD
43. FIRE DOWN BELOW – VIPER VIXEN GODDESS SAINT
44. BUS – THE UNKNOWN SECRETARY
45. LIMESTONE WHALE – LIMESTONE WHALE
46. CHILD – BLUESIDE
47. SINISTER HAZE – LAID LOW IN THE DUST OF DEATH
48. AGORAPHOBIC NOSEBLEED – ARC
49. TROLL – TROLL
50. THE HAZYTONES – THE HAZYTONES

Fastnbulbous, Sunday, 1 January 2017 15:26 (one month ago) Permalink

Jeff Miller's 2016 punk scrapbook at Said the Gramophone: http://www.saidthegramophone.com/archives/punk_scrapbook_2016.php

My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Tuesday, 3 January 2017 17:34 (one month ago) Permalink

(Fairly broad definition of 'punk')

My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Tuesday, 3 January 2017 17:35 (one month ago) Permalink

That's a tracks list btw.

My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Tuesday, 3 January 2017 17:36 (one month ago) Permalink

Brainwashed's Readers Poll

Dinsdale, Thursday, 5 January 2017 14:25 (one month ago) Permalink

i suggest imago doesn't scroll down to the bottom of that page

NickB, Thursday, 5 January 2017 14:41 (one month ago) Permalink

this is actual fucking war

illbient microtonal poetry Surbiton (imago), Thursday, 5 January 2017 15:03 (one month ago) Permalink

TIL MX-80 Sound released a new album and apparently it sucks?

Transform All Suffering Into Poo (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 5 January 2017 15:07 (one month ago) Permalink

swans bros might be my new most hated group of people

illbient microtonal poetry Surbiton (imago), Thursday, 5 January 2017 15:07 (one month ago) Permalink

Oh, CP, that worst-of list contains my two favourite albums of maybe the last 5 years, it's very distinguished company. Probably a good album

illbient microtonal poetry Surbiton (imago), Thursday, 5 January 2017 15:09 (one month ago) Permalink

Brainwashed best-of also a noticeably POC-absent zone. Few women either. Yeah you're all so fucking experimental and hidden-reversy. Whatever. You're all cunts with boring taste

illbient microtonal poetry Surbiton (imago), Thursday, 5 January 2017 15:12 (one month ago) Permalink

Jeff Miller's 2016 punk scrapbook at Said the Gramophone: http://www.saidthegramophone.com/archives/punk_scrapbook_2016.php

― My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Tuesday, 3 January 2017 17:34 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^ good list imo

Transform All Suffering Into Poo (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 5 January 2017 15:16 (one month ago) Permalink

Please, if I ever become this kind of insufferable dour hateful misogynistic racist snob cunt about my music*, kill me. This kind of closed-mindedness and posturing is a million times worse than any sort of pop music exclusivism. This really raises the mirror to the sorts of people who self-style as experimental music fans and reveals them for the dreadful, damaged bores that they are.

*as was vaguely threatened itt, still so :/ about that

illbient microtonal poetry Surbiton (imago), Thursday, 5 January 2017 15:20 (one month ago) Permalink

A category for "Worst Album of the Year?" My middle-school-aged child is more open-minded.

doug watson, Thursday, 5 January 2017 19:41 (one month ago) Permalink

Sort of understand the hate for Jute Gyte in a sort of macho inadequacy 'it's just nooooise' self-pwning incurious sense but voting Weyes Blood as second-worst album of the year makes me entirely suspect the Brainwashed readership to comprise a suppurating hate-riven subreddit of actively bigoted shut-ins (probably confirmed by the seething unchecked Swans support, lack of POC or women etc etc) - it just isn't an album I could imagine anyone with any sort of acceptable social adjustment hating. Even if you can't get with its vibe it's not much more than an intricate pop-folk record with proggy touches and lots of harmonies. If this is what drives you to hatred then you're undoubtedly worthless and probably a localised threat to others.

illbient microtonal poetry Surbiton (imago), Thursday, 5 January 2017 20:00 (one month ago) Permalink

Since I'm one of the assholes who vote in their poll, let me say that you don't actively vote for a "worst album of the year", you just rate the albums you've heard (love, like, dislike, hate) so a record could get in that list simply by the matter of having a lot of people not liking it. I don't think there are that many voters either so it doesn't even have to be a lot of people.

Dinsdale, Thursday, 5 January 2017 20:15 (one month ago) Permalink

I think I remember one year (probably 2012? Back when stephen ilxor was still affiliated with them) when one of their worst albums might have actually made the best albums list.

Ummm wait...Dinsdale??

U2 (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 5 January 2017 20:19 (one month ago) Permalink

that is a truly deranged way to run a poll at the best of times, but with such a voting public (present company excluded I suppose) it becomes actively reckless

illbient microtonal poetry Surbiton (imago), Thursday, 5 January 2017 20:23 (one month ago) Permalink

Lol Dinsdale am I way behind the curve in figuring out who you are, cuz it took me a whole year to realize rev changed her sn

U2 (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 5 January 2017 20:38 (one month ago) Permalink

I'm not a former ilxor or anything like that, so there's no such thing as figuring out who I am

Dinsdale, Thursday, 5 January 2017 20:50 (one month ago) Permalink

I'll fucking do it

(j/k)

illbient microtonal poetry Surbiton (imago), Thursday, 5 January 2017 20:59 (one month ago) Permalink

Ohhh ok

U2 (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 5 January 2017 22:00 (one month ago) Permalink


I think I remember one year (probably 2012? Back when stephen ilxor was still affiliated with them) when one of their worst albums might have actually made the best albums list.

― U2 (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, January 5, 2017 8:19 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Doesn't that routinely happen with the NME reader polls or am I imagining that

in twelve parts (lamonti), Friday, 6 January 2017 19:59 (one month ago) Permalink

wow the whiteness of the brainwashed list is particularly glaring in a year when yves, dedekind, klein, etc were all basically running down different nurse with wound threads

based grandpa (noz), Saturday, 7 January 2017 21:02 (one month ago) Permalink

ooh thanks for those other two recommendations, I already got turned on to the excellent Yves Tumor record via the Spotify playlist

sleeve, Saturday, 7 January 2017 21:06 (one month ago) Permalink

I hope you will take a look at the 2016 music year in review at

http://phivel.blogspot.com/2017/01/2016-in-review-visions-of-end-and-back.html

I would love to hear your reactions (pro and con).

Phivel 5L, Sunday, 8 January 2017 14:29 (one month ago) Permalink

a sort of macho inadequacy 'it's just nooooise' self-pwning incurious sense

uh what? Do you even know what the majority of what made the list sounds like? Undoubtedly people who rep for Fennesz, Oren Ambarchi, Nurse with Wound, Whitehouse, and Tim Hecker are totally turned off by noooo