Best Wire Record of the Year 1994-2009 Poll

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Not sure if they did this prior to 94, but the online archives seemed to only date back that far.

Poll Results

OptionVotes
1994 Portishead - Dummy 17
2002 Sonic Youth - Murray Street 16
2001 Bjørk - Vespertine 13
1995 Tricky - Maxinquaye 11
1996 Tortoise - Millions Now Living Will Never Die 8
2006 Burial - Burial 8
1998 Sonic Youth - A Thousand Leaves 6
1999 Mouse On Mars - Niun Niggung 5
2004 Albert Ayler - Holy Ghost: Rare & Unreleased Recordings 5
2008 The Bug - London Zoo 3
1997 Robert Wyatt - Shleep 3
2007 Robert Wyatt - Comicopera 1
2005 The Books - Lost And Safe 1
2003 Robert Wyatt - Cuckooland 1
2000 Anti-Pop Consortium - Tragic Epilogue 1
2009 Broadcast & The Focus Group - Investigate Witch Cults Of The Radio Age 0


sofatruck, Saturday, 27 February 2010 14:38 (fourteen years ago) link

Tortoise

Zeno, Saturday, 27 February 2010 14:41 (fourteen years ago) link

92 was Arrested Development - 3 Years, 5 Months & 2 Days in the Life of...
93 was Bjork - Debut

according to rocklist.net

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Saturday, 27 February 2010 14:42 (fourteen years ago) link

a "!?" list

Zeno, Saturday, 27 February 2010 14:43 (fourteen years ago) link

Maxinquaye > Comicopera >>> A Thousand Leaves

Inculcate a spirit of serfdom in children (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 27 February 2010 14:44 (fourteen years ago) link

albert ayler's sort of a ringer in there. without him, i'd go for tricky i guess.

hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 27 February 2010 14:45 (fourteen years ago) link

It's a weird list of #1s (except for Dummy, Maxinquaye and Burial).

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Saturday, 27 February 2010 14:45 (fourteen years ago) link

i've only one heard song off of any of those albums!

Ballistic, Saturday, 27 February 2010 15:11 (fourteen years ago) link

Broadcast album is really an odd duck for a #1. It's a good record, but it's kind of slight. . . Although I guess you can make that same claim about a couple of these.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Saturday, 27 February 2010 15:31 (fourteen years ago) link

xp I am guessing you are pretty young cuz it was very hard to miss Portishead or Tricky when those records came out.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Saturday, 27 February 2010 15:32 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah what a weird list

I really like The Books, but that's still my least-favorite Books album

not sure what I'd vote for here

some pretty girls make bigger graves than others (bernard snowy), Saturday, 27 February 2010 15:41 (fourteen years ago) link

also not my favorite Tortoise, Sonic Youth, or Mouse on Mars records

fuck it, I'll just go with Ayler

some pretty girls make bigger graves than others (bernard snowy), Saturday, 27 February 2010 15:42 (fourteen years ago) link

Torn between Tricky, Tortoise and The Books. Not my favorite tortoise album either but I do think Lost and Safe is the best thing the Books ever released and it's one of my favorite albums of the past decade.

Moka, Saturday, 27 February 2010 15:47 (fourteen years ago) link

i probably listen to the Antipop Consortium album more than any of the other records on this list

zsockster (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 27 February 2010 15:49 (fourteen years ago) link

ok, DEFINITELY

zsockster (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 27 February 2010 15:50 (fourteen years ago) link

@AlexinSF: I'm 29. the song I'd heard was Portishead. I know of Tricky, but neither album ever made its way into my playlist mostly cuz at the time I was listening to awful shit like The Crow: City of angels soundtrack (which oddly Tricky does appear on!)

Ballistic, Saturday, 27 February 2010 15:53 (fourteen years ago) link

can i just

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8oAh6hdIwA#t=0m50s

zsockster (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 27 February 2010 15:53 (fourteen years ago) link

:50

zsockster (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 27 February 2010 15:54 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah its a weird mix, which is why I thought it would be a fun poll. I probably listen to Burial more than any, but need to check out more than a few of the others.

sofatruck, Saturday, 27 February 2010 16:39 (fourteen years ago) link

Vespertine's an easy choice here. Bjork's best album.

scott pgwp (pgwp), Saturday, 27 February 2010 16:50 (fourteen years ago) link

would love to pick up that ayler box on the cheap one day

zsockster (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 27 February 2010 16:52 (fourteen years ago) link

Have probably listened to Dummy more than any of these but the Tortoise album was pretty important to my life as a corny indie fuck, and while the Mouse on Mars is my least favourite of their 90s output I was completely obsessed with them when it came out, so, one of them I guess

falling while carrying an owl (a passing spacecadet), Saturday, 27 February 2010 16:57 (fourteen years ago) link

What Am I? is so awesome!

Think I'll plump for Dummy, one of those records I kind of grew up with but only recently realised how amazing it is. Intro of Strangers man. Whoa.

Wax Cat, Saturday, 27 February 2010 17:16 (fourteen years ago) link

1994 Portishead - Dummy I really loved this when it came out, but it's hard not to feel like it got overplayed. I def listen to the Live album or Third more these days.
1995 Tricky - Maxinquaye Same problem but this was probably a better record. I don't listen to any other Tricky records though and I do pull this out on occasion.
1996 Tortoise - Millions Now Living Will Never Die A good record that felt overrated from the moment it came out.
1998 Sonic Youth - A Thousand Leaves A generic Sonic Youth record.
1999 Mouse On Mars - Niun Niggung I thought this was just okay when it came out. I should probably look for it cheap and give it another chance since I'd probably love it now.
2000 Anti-Pop Consortium - Tragic Epilogue The perfect Wire hip-hop record, I guess. It's overlong, but I still listen to it although I generally pull out the shorter and better Warp EP that followed.
2001 Bjørk - Vespertine I forgot they loved this record so much. It probably is her best, but it still feels kind of like generic Bjørk record.
2002 Sonic Youth - Murray Street Still better generic Bjørk than generic Sonic Youth.
2004 Albert Ayler - Holy Ghost: Rare & Unreleased Recordings So this is obv amazing, but frankly unfair like I don't know Heart of the Congos getting best record 1998 or something.
2006 Burial - Burial A wildly uneven record (same as the follow up). Hard not to feel like something better came out that year and like the Tortoise one that this just overrated.
2008 The Bug - London Zoo This feels like the perfect Wire record for its time. London, dancehall, grime, dubstep, continuum. Again a good record, but I don't listen to it much.
2009 Broadcast & The Focus Group - Investigate Witch Cults Of The Radio Age I may have listened to the "Be Colony" more than any single track on any of these albums--well except for something off Maxinquaye--and this is good EP overall. And I guess given the recent Hauntological bent of the Wire no surprise that they are all over it. Still as I said above it feels kind of slight.

Never heard any of the Wyatt records or the books.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Saturday, 27 February 2010 17:48 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm voting Murray Street over Dummy and not really considering Ayler b/c it's weird to compare a box set of unreleased late 60s/early 70s free jazz with what are basically "contemporary" pop albums. I listened through Holy Ghost late last year---it's a hard slog! I think it would take a bunch of listens to really "get" it and I don't have that kind of endurance or fandom. I'll stick with Live in Greenwich Village.

begs the question, when is enough enough (Euler), Saturday, 27 February 2010 17:49 (fourteen years ago) link

xpost
You should definitely hear Comicopera and Rock Bottom, if not Soft Machine's 2 and 3.

David Katz (davek_00), Saturday, 27 February 2010 18:03 (fourteen years ago) link

Always a bit perplexed that many people think Burial and Untrue were some of the best records of the decade - Some great songs on both but they start to sound quite homogenic to my ears to stand well as a full album. He always uses the same filtered old rave kick and some samples that sort of sound like wooden blocks and sharpening knives. It's very appealing and he does know how to create raw emotion from the simplest tricks but it gets increasingly predictable as you keep on listening.

Moka, Saturday, 27 February 2010 19:01 (fourteen years ago) link

tempted by vespertine, which i've found myself returning to over the years far more than i thought i would at the time. "hidden place" is one of her all-time classics imo.

adored dummy and maxinquaye at the time...think portishead's second album is their masterpiece though. london zoo is a strong contender. one day i'll get round to hearing robert wyatt.

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Saturday, 27 February 2010 19:06 (fourteen years ago) link

i don't dislike burial but there are so many better examples of dubstep that move me so much more

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Saturday, 27 February 2010 19:07 (fourteen years ago) link

Hey Whiney, I'd say £35 is cheap for the Ayler (it's considerably less than I paid for it at the time!):

http://www.spincds.com/product.asp?id=9017270

Officer Pupp, Saturday, 27 February 2010 19:35 (fourteen years ago) link

man how the hell can they seriously say that robert wyatt made the best record of the year THREE TIMES between 94 and 09? and i LIKE robert wyatt!

call all destroyer, Saturday, 27 February 2010 19:37 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm voting Robert Wyatt, but not sure which album. I guess it's between Shleep and Comicopera. Also really like Dummy and Burial.

Yaz Hands (Paul in Santa Cruz), Saturday, 27 February 2010 19:43 (fourteen years ago) link

Björk

queen frostine (Eric H.), Saturday, 27 February 2010 19:44 (fourteen years ago) link

For me this boils down to Vespertine vs Shleep vs Maxinquaye

We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Saturday, 27 February 2010 20:10 (fourteen years ago) link

Tending towards Shleep at the moment, if only cos I've not totally played it to death.

We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Saturday, 27 February 2010 20:11 (fourteen years ago) link

of these i only own the Ayler and Burial. Going with Ayler. Dislike/don't care about most of the stuff on the list.

DJ Get Up Kids (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 27 February 2010 20:15 (fourteen years ago) link

I picked Dummy. Not that I play it nowadays. It's just, at the time, this was one of my alltime fave records.

Nathalie (stevienixed), Saturday, 27 February 2010 20:17 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm gonna have hella indierap guilt if I'm the only vote for APC

zsockster (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 27 February 2010 22:53 (fourteen years ago) link

Maxinquaye is my close second tho

zsockster (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 27 February 2010 22:54 (fourteen years ago) link

It's Ayler for me, no question. Closest runner-up would be Vespertine. I like the Portishead and the Tricky, but prefer the follow-ups in both cases; have never heard the APC though I liked Arrhythmia at the time; was bored surly by Burial; and think London Zoo is the weakest Bug effort - I very much prefer Pressure or the Razor X Productions singles collected on Killing Sound. The rest aren't even worth discussing.

neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Saturday, 27 February 2010 23:10 (fourteen years ago) link

And ESPdisk.com is selling the Ayler box for $59 at present; a week ago they had it on sale for $50, but that window closed.

neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Saturday, 27 February 2010 23:10 (fourteen years ago) link

Voted for "Murray Street," but what an odd list. Plenty of good stuff, but why would most of these be the best thing made all year?

slagterm, Saturday, 27 February 2010 23:25 (fourteen years ago) link

Vespertine it is. Maxinquaye a close 2nd. Burial 3rd.

untrue pitch, Sunday, 28 February 2010 02:16 (fourteen years ago) link

In the end, I voted Dummy.

Still haven't heard Shleep, Cuckooland, Anti-Pop Consortium, or the Ayler though.

sofatruck, Monday, 1 March 2010 15:03 (fourteen years ago) link

I had it in my head that they used to list an unordered top 50 rather than a clear winner, but I assume I'm rong. Anyway, prob Portishead from that list

sometimes I feel like throwing my glands up in the air (DJ Mencap), Monday, 1 March 2010 15:34 (fourteen years ago) link

It's funny how for the first two years they pick pretty big records, and then do not.

The New Dirty Vicar, Monday, 1 March 2010 15:37 (fourteen years ago) link

voted murray st, which is far from being a 'generic' SY alb whatever that means, tho of course the ayler box is a beautiful monument and tombstone (and the ayler-cecil taylor-sonny murray session therein has to be some of the most important and exciting 'previously unreleased' music ever)

Ward Fowler, Monday, 1 March 2010 15:39 (fourteen years ago) link

For sure they most recent lists have been ranked. I assumed the older ones were too since the lists aren't alphabetical. xxpost

sofatruck, Monday, 1 March 2010 15:40 (fourteen years ago) link

can say i really "get" robert wyatt

secret smdh-i (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 1 March 2010 15:43 (fourteen years ago) link

or the books for that matter.

secret smdh-i (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 1 March 2010 15:44 (fourteen years ago) link

It's funny how for the first two years they pick pretty big records, and then do not.

― The New Dirty Vicar, Monday, 1 March 2010 15:37 (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

See what struck me for pretty much all of it aside from the Ayler box was that their top picks are squarely in that area that encompasses the most populist music press as well as the Wire... like even Antipop and Mouse On Mars would tend to get positive, if not big, reviews in the NME or whoever. (Plus Portishead and Tricky were MM and NME number ones respectively as well)

sometimes I feel like throwing my glands up in the air (DJ Mencap), Monday, 1 March 2010 15:49 (fourteen years ago) link

Always love that one reads the Wire and gets the impression from the reviews and most of the features that the staffers listen solely to white noise or amelodic skronk, but when you check the playlists and end-of-years lists, it's not a million miles from Pitchfork ...

ithappens, Monday, 1 March 2010 16:10 (fourteen years ago) link

I guess the reviewers all like different amelodic skronk albums but the same popular-conventional ones. (is this where I should write "xpost"? asketh the newbie)

Anyway, I went for A Thousand Leaves, as it's my favourite SY album. I'm not excited by much on the list; I haven't heard the Ayler box though I do have a couple of other albums and played the hell out of the Greenwich Village set one summer, so I expect I would like it.

seandalai, Monday, 1 March 2010 16:59 (fourteen years ago) link

I voted for Murray Street, which is probably my favorite SY album since, I don't know, Goo. Runner-up would be Shleep.

o. nate, Monday, 1 March 2010 17:28 (fourteen years ago) link

voted for A Thousand Leaves, it's the album that made Sonic Youth my favorite band (It should probably be noted that I'd only heard Dirty and Experimental Jet Set before this).

peter in montreal, Monday, 1 March 2010 17:59 (fourteen years ago) link

Shleep

that guy who doesn't get it but doesn't know he doesn't get it (M.V.), Monday, 1 March 2010 21:02 (fourteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Sunday, 7 March 2010 00:01 (fourteen years ago) link

I guess the reviewers all like different amelodic skronk albums but the same popular-conventional ones.

Hard to overstate the effect of this phenomenon on... well, All Polls Ever.

M.V., Sunday, 7 March 2010 16:31 (fourteen years ago) link

I think Yeats wrote a poem about it...

M.V., Sunday, 7 March 2010 16:32 (fourteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Monday, 8 March 2010 00:01 (fourteen years ago) link

Most surprising thing about this poll is how many people voted in it.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Monday, 8 March 2010 02:21 (fourteen years ago) link

Biggest surprises are the lack of Robert Wyatt love (5 combined votes for 4 albums -- really?!!!??!) and the predominance of love for trip-hop, all these years later. Portishead I get, kinda, but hasn't Tricky come and gone... and then gone, and gone, and gone again?

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Monday, 8 March 2010 03:33 (fourteen years ago) link

5 votes for 3 albums *

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Monday, 8 March 2010 03:33 (fourteen years ago) link

I voted Tricky. He may have come and gone but that's still my favourite record of the 90s.

gotanynewsstory? (Dorianlynskey), Monday, 8 March 2010 10:45 (fourteen years ago) link

No Maxinquaye is still great, and the best thing on this list I think. Though I love Robert Wyatt.

Tim F, Monday, 8 March 2010 11:34 (fourteen years ago) link

I was surprised by how many of the winners were either (a) trip hop and its descendants (let's face it, Burial is basically pirate radio trip hop) or (b) Robert Wyatt.

gotanynewsstory? (Dorianlynskey), Monday, 8 March 2010 12:47 (fourteen years ago) link

don't get what's surprising about the love for trip-hop. it was critically fêted at the time, and if anything time has strengthened it - certainly a bunch of widely praised current genres are fairly obvious descendants of it.

hasn't Tricky come and gone... and then gone, and gone, and gone again?

and this has what, precisely, to do w/maxinquaye's quality?

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Monday, 8 March 2010 12:54 (fourteen years ago) link

i love robert wyatt too but this list looks a bit much. would have voted murray street i think.

sonderangerbot, Monday, 8 March 2010 13:13 (fourteen years ago) link

and this has what, precisely, to do w/maxinquaye's quality?

Nothing, other than that I expected the apparent love (read: votes) for his first record would be affected by the mostly middling work he's released since. Look at the Streets in another recent poll, the same thing happened to Original Pirate Material. Maybe that record just needs another 10 years and it'll be back into the ILM canon?

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Monday, 8 March 2010 13:16 (fourteen years ago) link

The diff is that The Streets getting worse has turned many things that were great about his first record into liabilities - with Tricky the poor later work doesn't retroactively infect the great early work.

I still love OPM to death but I can see why people take that line.

Tim F, Monday, 8 March 2010 13:26 (fourteen years ago) link


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