dear caek,
i was wondering about space. so if the universe exploded and stars are just explosive accretions of mass and eventually everything will be really far apart from everything else, why is it all going to collapse sometime?
or is some stuff getting farther away from other stuff at a significantly faster or slower rate? because maybe then the combined mass of the entire universe would be enough to decelerate one of the more rapidly escaping densities such that it would fall back into some orbit---do this with everything in the universe and it eventually just settles into a steady state, right?
anyway thanks for being a scientist,
gbx
― crazy farting throwback jersey (gbx), Saturday, 5 December 2009 21:35 (fourteen years ago) link
what is the difference btw space and time?
― Lamp, Saturday, 5 December 2009 21:37 (fourteen years ago) link
why does it matter what's happening in space when ppl are suffering here on earth
― harbl, Saturday, 5 December 2009 21:39 (fourteen years ago) link
Are you the kind of guy who can pull off wearing all-white shoes, white pants, and a white shirt?
― big darn deal (Z S), Saturday, 5 December 2009 21:40 (fourteen years ago) link
if you were in a film then who would play you?
― caek, Saturday, 5 December 2009 21:42 (fourteen years ago) link
^^relevant to my interests xp to lamp but this works too
i think maybe time and space are the same thing because at some point it is impossible to reconcile velocity and position.
― crazy farting throwback jersey (gbx), Saturday, 5 December 2009 21:42 (fourteen years ago) link
i think if you take a space journey at a speed of .4 c you can come back to earth and play yourself as a baby
― harbl, Saturday, 5 December 2009 21:43 (fourteen years ago) link
goin on a star voyage...movie star, that is!
― crazy farting throwback jersey (gbx), Saturday, 5 December 2009 21:45 (fourteen years ago) link
is "space" an appropriate answer to "whats yr fav color" i mean is space a color cause pretty sure it is u might want to look into that
― ice cr?m, Saturday, 5 December 2009 21:46 (fourteen years ago) link
dude from match point??? http://www.tribute.ca/tribute_objects/images/stars/matthew_goode.jpg
― Lamp, Saturday, 5 December 2009 21:46 (fourteen years ago) link
it's not certain that it will, but if it does it will be due to gravity. there are three things: (i) the force of the big bang, which was big, maybe too big for anything to overcome and is still totally dominant on intergalactic scales; (ii) gravity, which adds up to quite a lot given enough time and everything in the universe to work with; and the third thing, which acts in the same way as the explosion (i.e. drives things apart) is ~~dark energy~~, which no one really understands and if basically some bullshit to sell new scientist [*]
so the question is, when you add these three together, what is the ultimate fate: collape, expansion, or exquisitely balanced steady state. i am not a cosmologist, so this is not really my area, but my understanding is that the latest thinking is that it's the last one, yeah. but the steady state we're headed for has galaxies much further apart than they are now, and is going to be an extremely boring place.
[*] this is not entirely fair. there's pretty good evidence that something other than just (i) and (ii) are happening, but we have no idea what, so we call it dark energy.
― caek, Saturday, 5 December 2009 21:48 (fourteen years ago) link
what is the difference btw space and time?― Lamp, Saturday, December 5, 2009 9:37 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― Lamp, Saturday, December 5, 2009 9:37 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
in relativity, the only difference is you cannot travel backwards in time. it is otherwise identical to the other dimensions. in the real world, time is time and space is space, and the difference is obvious although i once did get so perfectly drunk that i was experiencing the world in derivatives with respect to time. totally amazing.
― caek, Saturday, 5 December 2009 21:50 (fourteen years ago) link
why does it matter what's happening in space when ppl are suffering here on earth― harbl, Saturday, December 5, 2009 9:39 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― harbl, Saturday, December 5, 2009 9:39 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
it absolutely does not matter what is happening in space, other than to the extent that knowing about it makes people happy. anyone who tells you that pure astronomy is anything other than culture is lying. i feel v. strongly about this and get into many arguments with astronomy geeks at work. i think it is totally dishonest to suggest that what astronomers do is important in the true sense of the word.
― caek, Saturday, 5 December 2009 21:53 (fourteen years ago) link
oh yeah i can def understand that. it's why i quit doing math&physics after undergrad. thanks 4 ur time ; )
― harbl, Saturday, 5 December 2009 21:57 (fourteen years ago) link
Are you the kind of guy who can pull off wearing all-white shoes, white pants, and a white shirt?― big darn deal (Z S), Saturday, December 5, 2009 9:40 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― big darn deal (Z S), Saturday, December 5, 2009 9:40 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
i always wore white chuck taylors between the ages of 16 and 25 and that looked ok, but i have a very fair complexion (i got hospitalised with sunstroke in cornwall once), so i don't think that would be a good look for me. i think it works well for pierce brosnan though. he has amazing hair imo.
― caek, Saturday, 5 December 2009 21:57 (fourteen years ago) link
oh yeah i can def understand that. it's why i quit doing math&physics after undergrad. thanks 4 ur time ; )― harbl, Saturday, December 5, 2009 9:57 PM (45 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― harbl, Saturday, December 5, 2009 9:57 PM (45 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
it's the same reason i quit philosophy early in my undergrad. both astronomy and philosophy don't matter at all, but worrying about whether we exist or not did seem to be taking the piss a bit.
― caek, Saturday, 5 December 2009 21:59 (fourteen years ago) link
what is the best galaxy and why
pics ok
― crazy farting throwback jersey (gbx), Saturday, 5 December 2009 21:59 (fourteen years ago) link
dear caek,if you were in a film then who would play you?― caek, Saturday, December 5, 2009 9:42 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― caek, Saturday, December 5, 2009 9:42 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
great question. the answer is simon pegg.
what is your favourite john updike quote about astronomy?
― caek, Saturday, 5 December 2009 22:00 (fourteen years ago) link
although i once did get so perfectly drunk that i was experiencing the world in derivatives with respect to time. totally amazing
o_O
caek: does the massiveness of space ever seem sinister to u?
― Lamp, Saturday, 5 December 2009 22:05 (fourteen years ago) link
is "space" an appropriate answer to "whats yr fav color" i mean is space a color cause pretty sure it is u might want to look into that― ice cr?m, Saturday, December 5, 2009 9:46 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― ice cr?m, Saturday, December 5, 2009 9:46 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
that question has an answer thanks to the nerds at at&t bell labs:
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f325/caek/bellhorn.jpg
they may not do mms messaging or tethered mode, but this is cool:
http://lambda.gsfc.nasa.gov/product/map/current/pub_papers/fiveyear/basic_results/images/med/gh5_f12_PPT_M.png
― caek, Saturday, 5 December 2009 22:07 (fourteen years ago) link
what is the best galaxy and whypics ok― crazy farting throwback jersey (gbx), Saturday, December 5, 2009 9:59 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― crazy farting throwback jersey (gbx), Saturday, December 5, 2009 9:59 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
imma get back to you on that one.
dear caek,what is your favourite john updike quote about astronomy?― caek, Saturday, December 5, 2009 10:00 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalinkcaek: does the massiveness of space ever seem sinister to u?― Lamp, Saturday, December 5, 2009 10:05 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― caek, Saturday, December 5, 2009 10:00 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― Lamp, Saturday, December 5, 2009 10:05 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
It is not true that developments in physics go ignored by professional humanists or by the common man. The basic facts get to us all and frame the way we think and even feel. The picture physics paints of the material universe is arresting enough to make the newspapers but far from flattering to our individual identities. Astronomy is what we have now instead of theology. The terrors are less, but the comforts are nil.
-- John Updike, 2005 iirc, Physics Today
― caek, Saturday, 5 December 2009 22:10 (fourteen years ago) link
seriously though (i) yes, terrifying moments of clarity every year or two (ii) listen to this short story, it will only take you 15 minutes and it is pretty much on the money about the end of time: http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/04/a-bite-of-stars-a-slug-of-time-and-thou-episode-5/
― caek, Saturday, 5 December 2009 22:12 (fourteen years ago) link
a favourite galaxy:
NGC 1300
http://www.phys.ncku.edu.tw/~astrolab/mirrors/apod_e/image/0501/ngc1300_hst_c30g90.jpg
― caek, Saturday, 5 December 2009 22:14 (fourteen years ago) link
itt a strange man asks you if you saw the massive bar and dust lanes and flocculene on that galaxy
― caek, Saturday, 5 December 2009 22:15 (fourteen years ago) link
Can you explain a bit more about forces? Like, for instance, is gravity subject to relativity rules - if something starts increasing in mass really fast (uh pretend this is possible I guess), do nearby object start feeling the extra tug immediately, or only after exactly (distance/speed of light) seconds? I guess it must be the latter but why does that make any sense?
― Gravel Puzzleworth, Saturday, 5 December 2009 22:19 (fourteen years ago) link
M104 (aka the Sombrero galaxy)
http://www.strw.leidenuniv.nl/~broek/pictures/sombrero_galaxy.jpg
― caek, Saturday, 5 December 2009 22:20 (fourteen years ago) link
she's a beaut
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 5 December 2009 22:21 (fourteen years ago) link
whoa it's like a plate!
― harbl, Saturday, 5 December 2009 22:22 (fourteen years ago) link
M104 u r a treat
― crazy farting throwback jersey (gbx), Saturday, 5 December 2009 22:22 (fourteen years ago) link
how many of the stars i see are actually galaxies
http://i49.tinypic.com/2ez2rs6.jpg
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 5 December 2009 22:26 (fourteen years ago) link
forces are propogated by massless particles. e.g. the electromagnetic force, which is the force that dominates our lives, keeps us warm, prevents us from walking through doors, etc., is propagated by the best known massless particle, the photon.
massless particles travel at exactly the speed of light. therefore forces can only propagate at the speed of light, you are correct.
there is a thought experiment about this involving the sun suddenly disappearing. if this happened then the earth would stay on its orbit for 8 minutes, before suddenly flying off into space, because that's how long light takes to reach us.
the reason all this makes sense is complicated and difficult to explain without getting into special relativity, which is not my strongest subject, and not something i've ever been good at teaching. but perhaps if you're comfortable with the idea that you can't send information at faster than the speed of light, then it would make sense to you that you can't have forces that operate faster than that (or instantaneously) because they could be used to transmit information at faster than the speed of light.
this wikipedia article makes a decent stab at this. of course once you throw in quantum mechanics all hope of understanding this is lost, because that stuff makes no fucking sense whatsoever.
― caek, Saturday, 5 December 2009 22:28 (fourteen years ago) link
how many of the stars i see are actually galaxies― crazy farting throwback jersey (gbx), Saturday, December 5, 2009 10:22 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― crazy farting throwback jersey (gbx), Saturday, December 5, 2009 10:22 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
not many. with the naked eye, in a dark place, you can see andromeda (m31):
http://www.tcd.ie/Physics/Schools/what/galaxies/m31_ware_big.jpg
and m33:
http://www.astrogb.com/images/galleria/M33.jpg
in the southern hemisphere you can see the small and large magellanic clouds, which are galaxies too.
however, there are a lot of galaxies. this is the hubble ultra deep field, which is not very pretty, but may give you an idea for how many;
http://imgsrc.hubblesite.org/hu/db/images/hs-2004-07-a-large_web.jpg
pretty much everything you see there (except the two twinkling things, which are stars, is a galaxy. there are about 10,000 in that image. that images is 1 ten millionth of the total area of the sky. and the hubble is only seeing a tiny fraction of them.
― caek, Saturday, 5 December 2009 22:36 (fourteen years ago) link
No : (. Law 4: "if thermal undershorts are worn, they are of the same main colour as the shorts"
― caek, Saturday, 5 December 2009 22:40 (fourteen years ago) link
what is a cool video about angular momentum?
― caek, Saturday, 5 December 2009 22:43 (fourteen years ago) link
great question. i would have to say:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r__nGqGpTD8
― caek, Saturday, 5 December 2009 22:44 (fourteen years ago) link
I'd agree with you, xp, but Keith Hackett says: "Yes. Let the substitution go ahead because there's also nothing in the laws to prevent playing in furry trousers – and there's no reason for you to intervene because the trousers are clearly not dangerous to either the player or his opponents. You should monitor the situation though in case problems do occur – at which point you'd have the authority to have him removed, even if the side have used all their substitutes."
So I asked Mrs K to arbitrate and she said: "Yes, for the humour value."
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 5 December 2009 22:45 (fourteen years ago) link
xxxxpost
The abyss gazes also...
― Pooping And Crying (Deric W. Haircare), Saturday, 5 December 2009 22:45 (fourteen years ago) link
These pictures - they are amazing.
― bear say hi to me (ENBB), Saturday, 5 December 2009 22:48 (fourteen years ago) link
xxp, some people are pragmatists or intentionalists, myself i am a textualist.
― caek, Saturday, 5 December 2009 22:49 (fourteen years ago) link
dear caek, what is a pretty thought about people and stars and shit?
― caek, Saturday, 5 December 2009 23:03 (fourteen years ago) link
For many years I put up a Day of the Dead altar every November 1 in my Mexico City apartment. I did this in collaboration with the woman who used to take care of it and me; Señora Jacinta Cruz Ilescas, a Zapotec woman from a village in highland Oaxaca where traditional dress has long disappeared and only Spanish is now spoken. In a fever of creative ambition, we would find new ways each year to suspend cloth backdrops on a bare wall. We would pin paper cutouts to the cloth; wrap and stack shoeboxes to create small free-standing altars on the larger one; surround portraits of the departed with fruits and the fruit with flowers and small plates of the favorite traditional foods of the deceased. Then we would fit a dozen prayer candles among the dense display of offerings and try to make the whole thing fireproof.Finally, after we had admired the result and pointed out the current altar's virtues with regard to the previous year's, Señora Jacinta would invariably say, "Ah, señora, but if we were in my pueblo, we would be able to uproot a vine chock-full of jicamas, and make an arch for the altar with it. That way it would be right." Years ago, I read that the Maya people of southern Mexico also make a ceremonial arch from jicama vines, and they still remember why. The radish-like jicamas, which hang down from the vines, and have brown skins but are white on the inside, represent the stars of the Milky Way.
Finally, after we had admired the result and pointed out the current altar's virtues with regard to the previous year's, Señora Jacinta would invariably say, "Ah, señora, but if we were in my pueblo, we would be able to uproot a vine chock-full of jicamas, and make an arch for the altar with it. That way it would be right." Years ago, I read that the Maya people of southern Mexico also make a ceremonial arch from jicama vines, and they still remember why. The radish-like jicamas, which hang down from the vines, and have brown skins but are white on the inside, represent the stars of the Milky Way.
― caek, Saturday, 5 December 2009 23:04 (fourteen years ago) link
Another cool food-space connection: galaktoboureko! but that's probably just because it's Greek.
i think it is totally dishonest to suggest that what astronomers do is important in the true sense of the word.
― caek, Saturday, December 5, 2009 9:53 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark
i think this about a lot of intellectual careers (incl. my own, if i ever manage to have a career), but as long as you're honest about it, it's ok to do something just because it's really interesting and somebody's willing to pay for it.
― Maria, Saturday, 5 December 2009 23:13 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah, i agree. i've done my phd during a weird time, and i think it's worse than usual at the moment. funding situations occasionally become so desperate (e.g. now) that you see people convincing themselves that what they do is v. important so that they can convince other people. i think this is disastrously counter-productive, both for the long term attitude of the public toward science (i genuinely worry about what's going to happen when the science results start coming out of the LHC and the electorate are going to be like 'are you fucking kidding me?') and for our internal intellectual health (as big bad betrand russell said, "One of the symptoms of an approaching nervous breakdown is the belief that one's work is terribly important.")
galak = milk, hence the milky way is a galaxy. i was not aware of those cakes though. they look good!
― caek, Saturday, 5 December 2009 23:23 (fourteen years ago) link
awesome thread!
― paragon of incalescence (rrrobyn), Saturday, 5 December 2009 23:26 (fourteen years ago) link
w/r/t: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r__nGqGpTD8
do you, caek, condone the practice of dress shirts tucked into shorts?
― ~~dark energy~~ (Steve Shasta), Sunday, 6 December 2009 01:38 (fourteen years ago) link
I do not condone the practice of adult men wearing short trousers at all, but that is next level. I condemn it!
― caek, Sunday, 6 December 2009 10:30 (fourteen years ago) link
I do not condone the practice of adult men wearing short trousers at all
says the referee
― SBanned of Brothers (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 6 December 2009 10:45 (fourteen years ago) link
dear caek, what was a cool astronomy picture you saw today?
― caek, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 13:23 (fourteen years ago) link
hi caek, great question. the answer is
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f325/caek/clip_image002.jpg
A+
― ★彡☆ ★彡 (ENBB), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 13:43 (fourteen years ago) link
caek,
schrodinger's cat, alive/dead?
― Louis Cll (darraghmac), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 13:56 (fourteen years ago) link
whenever i think about that i am reminded of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpKqMC2YfwI
― caek, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 13:59 (fourteen years ago) link
seriously though
1) i have no idea. i have had to teach QM, and it is seriously troubling shit that i try not to think about too much.
2) all these guys otm: http://phys.wordpress.com/2006/06/09/quantum-mechanical-quotes/
― caek, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 14:02 (fourteen years ago) link
i will read that later, and i will post again when it makes me angry and my head hurt.
― Louis Cll (darraghmac), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 14:02 (fourteen years ago) link
caek:
string theory, yay or nay
-max
― max, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 14:12 (fourteen years ago) link
nay x 1,000,000. lost generation of theoreticians.
― caek, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 14:12 (fourteen years ago) link
pssst People We Like
― ★彡☆ ★彡 (ENBB), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 14:15 (fourteen years ago) link
caek: it seems awfully convenient that all this stuff exists (by which I mean: the entire universe). Is there a guiding hand behind it all?
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 14:23 (fourteen years ago) link
seven fundamental numbers, iirc?
― Louis Cll (darraghmac), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 14:24 (fourteen years ago) link
caek, did u get a bike in the end and pics or it didn't happen
― SKATAAAAAAAAAAA (cozwn), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 14:30 (fourteen years ago) link
lol thank you erica, you made me day : )
Ismael: the guiding hand is jesus iirc. but seriously, http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/nothingness/#1. although i need to stop responding with links. i'm like a tumblr-generation zen asshole. don't know anything about the seven fundamental numbers. having said that, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/137_%28number%29#In_physics.
cozwn, i did not buy a bike yet. i found out i was moving house in munich over christmas (which is going to be difficult enough without a car), and will be away from germany for about 6 weeks starting soon. also this country is coooooold. and the 2009 stocks were limited but the 2010s have not yet shown up in germany. so now did not seem like the perfect time. i am going to wait to see where if anywhere i get a job (should know by late jan), and then i will make a decision. if it turns out that i'm leaving europe in september then it gets tricky. but i need to nazi up soon. getting antsy.
― caek, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 15:23 (fourteen years ago) link
♪♫ no worries I understand and forgive u ♪♫
― SKATAAAAAAAAAAA (cozwn), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 15:43 (fourteen years ago) link
i think some reasonably well respected authorities had isolated a number similar-to-but-not-necessarily-exactly 7 fundamental universal constants that result in the stability we currently enjoy
― Louis Cll (darraghmac), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 15:48 (fourteen years ago) link
can something be "against the run of play" when it happens 1 minute into kick off?
― adorable cheese inscription (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 20:51 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
sounds like a question for ♪♫ caek's corner ♪♫
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 20:53 (24 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― adorable cheese inscription (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 20:54 (fourteen years ago) link
*shrug*
― caek, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:58 (fourteen years ago) link
which commentator made this point?
― caek, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 23:00 (fourteen years ago) link
x-posts :D
― ★彡☆ ★彡 (ENBB), Thursday, 10 December 2009 00:50 (fourteen years ago) link
fwiw science has already hit a brick wall, physics hasn't really advanced at all since the middle of the 20th century, for ex.
― a triumph in high-tech nipple obfuscation (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, December 9, 2009 7:08 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
also Dawkins is a deluded, irritable jerk he's not converting anybody as far as I can tell
― a triumph in high-tech nipple obfuscation (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, December 9, 2009 7:09 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
damn cant believe a whole 50 years have gone by without our understanding of the universe changing, thats never happened before
― max, Wednesday, December 9, 2009 7:09 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
physics has not advanced *at all*?!
― harbl, Wednesday, December 9, 2009 7:13 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
i'm telling caek
― harbl, Thursday, 10 December 2009 01:15 (fourteen years ago) link
I don't have a question but I just wanted to say I always assumed caek was a woman until reading this thread.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 10 December 2009 01:34 (fourteen years ago) link
u should start wearing dockers caek
― max, Thursday, 10 December 2009 01:35 (fourteen years ago) link
lollll
― ★彡☆ ★彡 (ENBB), Thursday, 10 December 2009 04:34 (fourteen years ago) link
fwiw science has already hit a brick wall, physics hasn't really advanced at all since the middle of the 20th century, for ex.― a triumph in high-tech nipple obfuscation (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, December 9, 2009 7:08 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
lol, if you change this to "since 1990" and "physics" to "the one bit of theoretical physics that had a really good 50 year run from 1900, and which liberal arts graduates thing is cool, but the rest of physics ignores", then sure.
p.s. i do wear dockers, no homo!
― caek, Thursday, 10 December 2009 09:17 (fourteen years ago) link
is ur name pronounced cake or kike?
― cozwn, Thursday, 10 December 2009 09:29 (fourteen years ago) link
don't think i've ever heard it said out loud, but cake i guess. it's etymology is kind of pathetic and date's back to pre-lolcat 1998.
― caek, Thursday, 10 December 2009 09:51 (fourteen years ago) link
what is the big news in astronomy this week?
― caek, Thursday, 17 December 2009 10:19 (fourteen years ago) link
the news is basically RIP UK:
http://blogs.sciencemag.org/scienceinsider/2009/12/british-science.html (lol at "left disatisfied")
http://andyxl.wordpress.com/2009/12/14/the-axeman-cometh/ (see the comments threads for some fun. "space" here means solar system exploration, as distinct from "astronomy", which is what i do.)
http://pacrowther.staff.shef.ac.uk/stfc.html (as you can see, yesterday was not a good day)
― caek, Thursday, 17 December 2009 10:22 (fourteen years ago) link
caek--how rad is this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17jymDn0W6U&feature=player_embedded#
― max, Saturday, 19 December 2009 11:48 (fourteen years ago) link
Never mind that, how cool is this proposal to send a boat to explore the seas of Titan?
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 19 December 2009 21:04 (fourteen years ago) link
Dear caek,
Clyde Tombaugh is a local hero here in Las Cruces, New Mexico. Do you have any opinions on the guy?
thanks,
Abbott in NM
― just a moonful of sugar (Abbott), Sunday, 20 December 2009 00:57 (fourteen years ago) link
max, the extent of anthropogenic radio signals is amazing. i love that.
the boat to the seas of titan seems like good show business. it's not a nasa idea though, and it sounds a bit retarded though, so who knows if it will ever happen. it would be cool though!
i had not heard of clyde tombaugh until your message abbott, so thank you for filling in that lacuna in my knowledge! he seems pretty cool. NM is still one of the world centres for astronomy: http://www.sdss.org/background/site.html.
― caek, Monday, 21 December 2009 10:20 (fourteen years ago) link
hey, what it your jam for 2009-02-09?
great question! it's this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSMDgVr3YMA
― caek, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 11:59 (fourteen years ago) link
that is beautiful.
― lords of hyrule (c sharp major), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 12:29 (fourteen years ago) link
totes.
ysi: http://www.mediafire.com/?yntoytonmwz
― caek, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 12:32 (fourteen years ago) link
oh thank you! is the capsoul label comp worth buying? i am q tempted to go out and see if i can find a copy.
― lords of hyrule (c sharp major), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 12:39 (fourteen years ago) link
a thousand times yes, imo : )
― caek, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 12:45 (fourteen years ago) link
dear caek, iyo is this a decent example of astronomical reporting?
http://www.astronomynow.com/news/n1003/02comet/
― stoke for the shawcross (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 21:48 (fourteen years ago) link
will read properly tomorrow but,
a) booming last paragraphb) ctrl-f poppage : (
― caek, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 22:19 (fourteen years ago) link
hey great article louis!
― max, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 22:26 (fourteen years ago) link
:D morelike sloppy seconds amirite, and ty! ty max as well!
anyway yeah our class was offered the optional task of writing-up some press-releases and those of us who chose to do so did a pretty good job imo - the 4 or 5 above mine (i.e. posted more recently) are by classmates. my press-release was particularly fun to flesh out. the work of astronomers = srsly rad. heavens how will we photograph this comet we trepanned earlier oh hai there's trusty ol' Stardust just orbitin' like it ain't no thang
― stoke for the shawcross (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 22:30 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah pretty good, i lolled at the last paragraph tbh
― harbl, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 22:33 (fourteen years ago) link
*puts fingers in mouth, whistles at Stardust, who obediently trots into aligned convergence course with some darn comet*
― stoke for the shawcross (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 22:33 (fourteen years ago) link
(and ty harbl! sorry i shall stop befouling ♪♫ caek's corner ♪♫ with Lonest Ranger fanfic)
― stoke for the shawcross (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 22:38 (fourteen years ago) link
NASA's unfished business
(congrats lj)
― falling while carrying an owl (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 22:40 (fourteen years ago) link
Hahaha! I read this earlier, chuckled at the final para, thought 'that's interesting stuff', didn't spot the author's name - and thought no more of it 'til now. I can think of no higher praise.
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 22:49 (fourteen years ago) link
XD you've made my evening! well, you and the HOOM thread.
― stoke for the shawcross (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 22:53 (fourteen years ago) link
This may sound like faint praise to others, but as you presumably know by now, it's not: although I don't know the mission in detail, there are no errors in the article as far as I can tell, and I actually learnt a bunch of stuff!
"The American Astronomical Society announced" ... but the AAS is basicaly just a professional organization (pensions, academic politics, outreach, etc.) They aren't running the mission. Would it be more accurate/give credit where due to say NASA announced it?
I have some comments on the prose, but I'm no more qualified than anyone else to give them (less qualified if you ask max). They basically boil down to: try to write more clearly, don't say "thus", no need to use the passive voice, etc. If you can get hold of a copy of "The Complete Plain Words" then it is a dope British English version of Strunk and White that I highly recommend.
― caek, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 11:23 (fourteen years ago) link
if i leave astronomy then the first thing i will do is write a crazy DFW-style feature about the politics of international observational astronomy, and particularly how the U.S. and Europe chose where to put their forthcoming giant telescopes.
― caek, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 11:24 (fourteen years ago) link
p.s. you picked a really really interesting topic by the way
― caek, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 11:26 (fourteen years ago) link
haha that's true, i didn't know if it was just me. it is a bit wordy in places but a lot less wordy than a normal lj post so i saw it as already a giant improvement ; )xposts
― harbl, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 11:27 (fourteen years ago) link
i love the way LJ has to adjust his style in pretty much the opposite direction of everyone else when he writes for print rather than ilx
― caek, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 11:28 (fourteen years ago) link
tried to read that article, fell asleep three times. and i'm at work. rubbish.
tips for again- include more zings, references to the work of ocean colour scene 1995-7, and ws pics.
― quiz show flat-track bully (darraghmac), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 11:57 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah I also noticed the wordiness but it was a booming article overall
― noted schloar (dyao), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 11:57 (fourteen years ago) link
guys this dude will never learn with all of this unrequited positivity. our man is definitely a 'tough love' responder, see how SB worked for him?
― quiz show flat-track bully (darraghmac), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 12:08 (fourteen years ago) link
― caek, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 11:24 (3 hours ago) Bookmark
yeah this is really interesting! i read something about europe's latest launch to stash a telescope at the second Langoustine* Point on the far side of the Earth to the Sun - geostationary and thus glareless
*the precise name may have slipped my mind
― with 4 magical horns & 3 figures to impale! (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 14:40 (fourteen years ago) link
lagrange, methinks. (i always have trouble with the idea of the lagrange points anywhere other than between the two objects.)
― take me to your lemur (ledge), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 15:07 (fourteen years ago) link
lagrangian, yeah
the telescopes i'm talking about (the european extremely large telescope and the u.s.-led thirty metre telescope) are ground telescopes. the choice of site (morocco vs. china vs. chile vs. spain vs. hawaii vs. etc.) is worth billions (and is a billion-dimensional optimization problem) which no one will go on the record about until it's finished.
they are massive btw, e.g. ELT
http://www.roe.ac.uk/elt/graphics/elt-telescope.jpg
― caek, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 15:33 (fourteen years ago) link
why are not all telescopes space telescopes? they plainly kick so much more ass. but perhaps they are too expensive, and/or the astronomers get a kick out of actually looking down the telescopes. or are they all telescopes which deal in non-visible wavelengths these days :(
― with 4 magical horns & 3 figures to impale! (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 15:37 (fourteen years ago) link
there are two reasons to work in space:
1) the atmosphere is strongly absorpant at a number of important wavelengths (gamma, X, UV, etc.)
2) the atmosphere blurs images
point 1) is a showstopper. if you want to detect x-rays you need to work in space. there are a bunch of instruments like these. they don't make v. photogenic images, so they don't get a lot of press, but they do great science.
if you're working at optical wavelengths (i.e. you could in principle observe from the ground) point 2) can these days be worked around from the ground with adaptive optics, which involves laser beams and shit. you can't quite get the high resolutions you get in space, but you can get pretty close. and you can do it for a _tiny_ fraction of the price. and you can build telescopes with _preposterously_ big mirrors, which is of course not an option in space. e.g. the elt has a 42m mirror. hubble has a 2m mirror. that means the elt will collect light at ~400 times faster than hubble, so it can observe fainter objects in less time. so in many circumstances, the ground is preferable.
― caek, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 15:45 (fourteen years ago) link
the hubble has obviously been great, and it's put dinner on a lot of people's tables, but if you had $10bn or whatever it cost, and your goal was to make as many great discoveries as possible, you would not build a space telescope. of course that was not nasa's goal, which is fine.
― caek, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 15:48 (fourteen years ago) link
ahh ok, I knew the atmosphere was a hindrance to many wavelengths but yeah they can adjust image resolution on their fancy computers and whatnot. don't you need space telescopes to pick up the most distant non-pulsar objects? generally the most jawdropping photos of space (as on that other thread) come from space telescopes too. what things tend to emanate x-rays?
will they be capable of firing an ELT into space, do you think, within our lifetimes? i appreciate that hubble was a PR thing to some extent, and also a political statement
also I would like to know more about dark matter :) because if 75% of the universe is made of it then it's pretty important right
― with 4 magical horns & 3 figures to impale! (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 15:53 (fourteen years ago) link
dark matter is basically just a best guess because iconic minds of astrophysics got their sums wrong but can't admit it.
― quiz show flat-track bully (darraghmac), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 15:55 (fourteen years ago) link
boom
― caek, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 16:07 (fourteen years ago) link
(that was the sound of a truth bomb going off)
jesus can't a guy have a little fun? thought that was challops for the ages and i can't even get that right.
― quiz show flat-track bully (darraghmac), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 16:08 (fourteen years ago) link
idk ianaa but i thought this thing was pretty clear and convincing:http://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/2009/09/dark_matter_part_iii_dark_matt.php
alsohttp://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/2009/10/dear_mond_time_for_a_new_song.php
― take me to your lemur (ledge), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 16:11 (fourteen years ago) link
I've got dark matter in spades, ladies
― noted schloar (dyao), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 16:11 (fourteen years ago) link
don't you need space telescopes to pick up the most distant non-pulsar objects?
no. you need a big collecting mirror/dish, which are always going to be ~10 times bigger (and therefore 100 times more efficient) on the ground than in space (even as space telescopes get bigger)
(i think you're confused about what pulsars are btw. they are not particularly bright. you can't really see them outside of our galaxy, either from space or the ground. when you can see them, you detect them in radio, which you can do much more easily from the ground (a radio telescope has be be hundreds of meters big these days, and does not look like a "telescope").)
you get x-rays from very very large structures (e.g. clusters of galaxies). it comes from the gas that surrounds them, which is very hot. x-ray observations are a good way to probe the large scale structure of the universe and figure out how wrong your sums are.
http://www.jwst.nasa.gov/ is going up in a few years. that's a 6m mirror. going to be a pretty big deal iirc.
― caek, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 16:14 (fourteen years ago) link
cool :) so space telescopes are for the two extremes: really pretty pictures and really uncharismatic but vital details about the mass of extremely distant objects
yeah i knew pulsars were only found by radio telescopes, and only then when they happened to be beaming in the correct orientation - i had been asking earlier whether these new telescopes were radio telescopes but it appears they are conventional, just enormous
also nice links guys, will peruse
― with 4 magical horns & 3 figures to impale! (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 16:25 (fourteen years ago) link
forthcoming radio/mm telescopes:
massive array of dishes in the atacama, EUR-US-Japan consortium, http://www.eso.org/sci/facilities/alma/
SKA, probably end up in western australia:http://www.skatelescope.org/photo/design_full.jpghttp://www.skatelescope.org/pages/page_genpub.htm
― caek, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 16:32 (fourteen years ago) link
what is this radial spiral nonsense
goonhilly and herstmonceux all the way, bitches
― with 4 magical horns & 3 figures to impale! (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 16:38 (fourteen years ago) link
I don't understand gravity. if I spin a ball, objects resting on its surface fly off of it. how do we stick to the earth?
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 16:40 (fourteen years ago) link
dark matter has been a major component of shoe soles since 1906
― quiz show flat-track bully (darraghmac), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 16:42 (fourteen years ago) link
iirc centripetal force keeps us in a sort of fixed harmonious orbit around the earth's centre, as for gravity, well, help us caek
― with 4 magical horns & 3 figures to impale! (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 16:43 (fourteen years ago) link
no one understand's gravity. it just is. things with mass are attracted to each other. that is the way of things. people are working on understanding it, but given it's the most familiar force on the day-to-day, it's odd that it's by far the most poorly understood.
lj's centripetal force comment is not even wrong.
― caek, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 16:46 (fourteen years ago) link
i am getting better at science iirc - either that or i am now making sure i only say the stuff i know to be truthful
gravity is caused by god fyi
― with 4 magical horns & 3 figures to impale! (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 16:49 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah I get centripetal force conceptually but gravity seems like mysterious magic and I was hoping someone had figured it out since the last time I took a science class
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 16:51 (fourteen years ago) link
I don't believe in god but it's hard to deny gravity
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 16:52 (fourteen years ago) link
p sure gravity is due to god
― max, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 16:52 (fourteen years ago) link
im a scientist btw
i love caek
― shite new answers (cutty), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 16:53 (fourteen years ago) link
like a fat kid loves caek
lj: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_even_wrong
― caek, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 16:53 (fourteen years ago) link
lol
sombrero galaxy would be a good band name
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 16:54 (fourteen years ago) link
;_;
plan to use that as awesome stealth zing though so all good
― with 4 magical horns & 3 figures to impale! (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 16:55 (fourteen years ago) link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wronger_than_wrong
Something that is wronger than wrong is therefore more wrong than something that is not even wrong.
― shite new answers (cutty), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 16:57 (fourteen years ago) link
wrong
not as stealthy as it used to be thanks to peter woit: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/0099488647/
(a+ book)
― caek, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 16:57 (fourteen years ago) link
RONG
∞RONG∞
― caek, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 16:58 (fourteen years ago) link
the rong ranger rides again
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 17:01 (fourteen years ago) link
~wtw~
― shite new answers (cutty), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 17:08 (fourteen years ago) link
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, March 3, 2010 10:54 AM (31 minutes ago) Bookmark
STEALING THIS
― nitzer ebbebe (gbx), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 17:27 (fourteen years ago) link
also caek u rule and also again i solved the universe btw the other night on w33d and it has to do with magnets, do u want my theory y/n
― nitzer ebbebe (gbx), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 17:28 (fourteen years ago) link
magnets sound more plausible than god tbh and you can have sombrero galaxy btw
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 18:14 (fourteen years ago) link
dude
god is magnets
why do you think one magnet moves when you put another one near it
― queen of the rapping scene (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 18:16 (fourteen years ago) link
I thought I was moving it with my mind
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 18:16 (fourteen years ago) link
it is like when the T-1000 was frozen and shot to bits but managed to recoagulate - god's design is beautiful and mysterious
― queen of the rapping scene (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 18:18 (fourteen years ago) link
popular 3-D cinema is also god's design fwiw
― queen of the rapping scene (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 18:19 (fourteen years ago) link
no gbx U rule, when we're both doctors let's start a blog called hipster doctors
― caek, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 19:27 (fourteen years ago) link
ppl already think i'm the hipster med student cause i ride a bike and played in a band once. so cool let's do it
btw i am working on my explanation of magnets for u
― nitzer ebbebe (gbx), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 20:54 (fourteen years ago) link
popularpoppage 3-D cinema is also god's design fwiw
― queen of the rapping scene (acoleuthic), Thursday, March 4, 2010 2:19 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark
― noted schloar (dyao), Thursday, 4 March 2010 00:30 (fourteen years ago) link
click here to see fresh young teens losing their anal virginity...in 3D
― queen of the rapping scene (acoleuthic), Thursday, 4 March 2010 00:32 (fourteen years ago) link
tbf that is the point at which we put human culture into a little box and fire it into a comet at ~high speed~
― queen of the rapping scene (acoleuthic), Thursday, 4 March 2010 00:33 (fourteen years ago) link
3D Porno wd be kind of self-defeating in its unsatisfyingness
― STFU Alumni (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 March 2010 00:34 (fourteen years ago) link
"Hey! Just look at these awesome 3D boobies all up in your face" is more distracting than arousing really
― STFU Alumni (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 March 2010 00:35 (fourteen years ago) link
i mean being caught wanking is one thing but wearing those goggles too i mean seriously now
― queen of the rapping scene (acoleuthic), Thursday, 4 March 2010 00:35 (fourteen years ago) link
btw LJ, is there an official definition of poppage that is more than just 'sex'
― noted schloar (dyao), Thursday, 4 March 2010 00:37 (fourteen years ago) link
zits exploding in 3D is much, much grosser than 3D porn
― queen of the rapping scene (acoleuthic), Thursday, 4 March 2010 00:40 (fourteen years ago) link
'solving' the universe by making it destroy itself in sheer embarrassment.
― quiz show flat-track bully (darraghmac), Thursday, 4 March 2010 10:09 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.newscientist.com/data/images/archive/2750/27501101.jpg
well that's as clear as mud then
― take me to your lemur (ledge), Thursday, 4 March 2010 14:08 (fourteen years ago) link
need more physicists to cheerfully admit 'we can't know that right now, but thanks for asking', then carry on with studying actual data.
― quiz show flat-track bully (darraghmac), Thursday, 4 March 2010 14:14 (fourteen years ago) link
onion infographics like that aren't entirely physicists's fault, to be fair. there is codependent relationship between a certain kind of science and new scientist type publications.
― caek, Thursday, 4 March 2010 14:32 (fourteen years ago) link
basically www.math.columbia.edu/~woit/wordpress/?p=2773
― caek, Thursday, 4 March 2010 14:33 (fourteen years ago) link
~god is a hologram~
― max, Thursday, 4 March 2010 14:34 (fourteen years ago) link
i have that tattooed on my back
only in *this* universe
― quiz show flat-track bully (darraghmac), Thursday, 4 March 2010 14:38 (fourteen years ago) link
btw caek i bet you feel the same way about this kind of science as many humanities profs feel abt buzzy crit theory papers
― max, Thursday, 4 March 2010 14:40 (fourteen years ago) link
ha, i hope so.
― caek, Thursday, 4 March 2010 14:43 (fourteen years ago) link
although i don't see many scientists defending the bullshit, and i know where to look, whereas finding people working in the humanities willing to defend the airless heights is a lot easier : ( is that fair or is this confirmation bias?
― caek, Thursday, 4 March 2010 14:46 (fourteen years ago) link
popularising science kind of depends on pushing out a lot of fuzzy/dumbed down stuff, though?
― quiz show flat-track bully (darraghmac), Thursday, 4 March 2010 14:47 (fourteen years ago) link
if science was easy we'd all do it, imo. i was strongly advised by prof of theoretical physics in trinity to back off on an open day, as my expectations in the LC weren't A1 in both physics/maths. broek hart ;_;
― quiz show flat-track bully (darraghmac), Thursday, 4 March 2010 14:48 (fourteen years ago) link
popularising science kind of depends on pushing out a lot of fuzzy/dumbed down stuff, though?― quiz show flat-track bully (darraghmac), Thursday, March 4, 2010 2:47 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― quiz show flat-track bully (darraghmac), Thursday, March 4, 2010 2:47 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
when done properly, it certainly involves making stuff more accessible, which is fine.
but a lot of popular writers have no interest in this. they choose stuff that is particularly difficult to explain in human language (field theory, quantum mechanics) because it sells and they don't have to work hard at making it comprehensible because no one can tell the difference.
or far worse, they are willfully obfuscatory about stuff like quantum mechanics of field theory or whatever because "gee whizz awesome" or "lol what will those crazy scientists think of next"
― caek, Thursday, 4 March 2010 14:53 (fourteen years ago) link
or they do things like that NS article, and write about stuff that is miles outside the mainstream of even theoretical physics, and simply be mentioning it they give the impression that it is credible or they are teaching the debate or something.
― caek, Thursday, 4 March 2010 14:54 (fourteen years ago) link
fwiw field theory and quantum mechanics have been touched upon at not a single point by my scijourn class - we're largely concentrating on stuff that can be explained lucidly while still telling the whole story
― queen of the rapping scene (acoleuthic), Thursday, 4 March 2010 14:56 (fourteen years ago) link
good. totally down with abraham cowley when it comes to science writing: abjure "the painted scenes and pageants of the brain".
― caek, Thursday, 4 March 2010 14:57 (fourteen years ago) link
which is not to say people should not try to explain QM or string theory or whatever. they should just not do a deliberately bad job of it in order to sell more copies. hawking started this.
― caek, Thursday, 4 March 2010 15:03 (fourteen years ago) link
abjure "the painted scenes and pageants of the brain".
this sounds like the kind of thing i'd totally fail to abjure, but i've been pretty good about hardtruthing it iirc - psychedelia is best saved for art, not news
― queen of the rapping scene (acoleuthic), Thursday, 4 March 2010 15:10 (fourteen years ago) link
― caek, Thursday, March 4, 2010 9:46 AM (24 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
confirmation bias + a "only im allowed to make fun of my brother" mindset
― max, Thursday, 4 March 2010 15:11 (fourteen years ago) link
i am fine with people making fun of the embarrassing bit of physics (although if the goal is to get rid of it i think the best policy is to ignore it). or are you talking about that mindset in the humanities?
― caek, Thursday, 4 March 2010 15:15 (fourteen years ago) link
in the humanities. cant speak for everyone but im really defensive when 'outsiders' or non-enthusiasts bag on stuff that i disagree with but hews close to stuff i dig.
― max, Thursday, 4 March 2010 15:15 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah, it's easy to make fun of that stuff in a really phillistinic, ignorant way, which is something i should do less. e.g. my impression is that the guy who actually did the social text thing gets it and had good intentions, but the fallout of pointing and lolling (just waiting for the xkcd cartoon tbh) was (and still is) really ugly.
― caek, Thursday, 4 March 2010 15:23 (fourteen years ago) link
Dear caek,hello you do not know me pleased to meet you. I am watching Horizon on bbc2. It is about space & galaxies etc. Did you see this documentary? Did you approve? Was it full of your rivals?
I do not feel I am learning a lot really. They just keep introducing a new 'dark' thing then saying we don't understand it. We're on dark flow now (or darkflow? Wd be better).
Crank's on Itv4 in a bit tho, prob more my level.
― woof, Tuesday, 9 March 2010 21:55 (fourteen years ago) link
i live in germany so i don't habitually watch uk telly except for antique's roadshow and university challenge.
i read the synopsis on iplayer. never heard of dark flow or "Sasha Kaslinsky, the scientist who discovered the phenomenon". he has no published papers as far as i can tell. hope you watched crank instead.
― caek, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 11:19 (fourteen years ago) link
In fairness, I think it was this Nasa dude, Alexander "Sasha" Kashlinsky:
http://www.kashlinsky.info/anima/skash.nsf/home?OpenForm
― Bill A, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 13:18 (fourteen years ago) link
duh, NASA.
― Bill A, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 13:19 (fourteen years ago) link
some neat stuff in that show. inflation theory new to me. but it did follow what's beginnning to feel like a formulaic style for bbc big bang/quantum phsycis etc documentaries, where each theory is intercut with shots of scientists silently peering into the camera or off into the distance, with strange lighting and/or subtle effetcs used to illustrate just how to deep in thought these crazy characters are
― gnarly sceptre, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 13:51 (fourteen years ago) link
Did anyone catch the programme about the universe (first episode focused on the sun) the last day? Was pretty good, looked great, could have done without the script and delivery of same by indie scientist dude.
― quiz show flat-track bully (darraghmac), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 13:54 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah, I saw Wonders of The Solar System and liked it. indie scientist Brian Cox is the "celeb" academic of my workplace and I've sometimes found his style a bit rich in previous stuff, but this time I warmed to him as the show progressed - the footage of the total eclipse and his humbled response to it was quite stirring stuff imo.
― Bill A, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 14:03 (fourteen years ago) link
Saturnian ringshine ftw
and i've enjoyed that dude's presenting before, but i have a feeling his winsomeness might push it by the end of the series. especially when it seems the Sigur Ros track from the BBC ident is perpetually imminent.
― gnarly sceptre, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 14:04 (fourteen years ago) link
yeha i will watch it this week again, don't get me wrong, but he just really grated on me. he's so...deep man, y'know?
― quiz show flat-track bully (darraghmac), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 14:08 (fourteen years ago) link
and his teeth don't fit into his lips, which bothered me.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4043/4439443924_3d354c38bd_o.jpg
― caek, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 10:37 (fourteen years ago) link
Okay, what's the backstory there? And why have they given him a suit?
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 10:58 (fourteen years ago) link
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/32/Ham_the_chimp.jpg/468px-Ham_the_chimp.jpg
― caek, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 11:02 (fourteen years ago) link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ham_the_Chimp
― caek, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 11:03 (fourteen years ago) link
that helmet, yes
― idm@hyperreal.org (lukas), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 11:15 (fourteen years ago) link
Ham was born July 1956 in Cameroon, captured by animal trappers and sent to Rare Bird Farm in Miami, Florida. He was purchased by the United States Air Force and brought to Holloman Air Force Base in 1959
One of the less likely biographies, that. But surely they could've come up with a better tribute than this:
It was decided that the AFIP would retain Ham's skeleton for further study, and his body was cleaned of soft tissue by lengthy placement in the Dermestid beetle colony at the Smithsonian
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 11:30 (fourteen years ago) link
He's holding a wallet in that B/W picture - probably holding his passport & visa?
― StanM, Wednesday, 17 March 2010 11:34 (fourteen years ago) link
wow that article is full of unusual details for the wikipedia thread.
the story of ham the chimp is a great read in the right stuff, btw
― I request "Fireflies" (dyao), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 11:41 (fourteen years ago) link
Dark Flow is realer than previously expected!
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/03/100322-dark-flow-matter-outside-universe-multiverse/
― StanM, Thursday, 25 March 2010 16:07 (fourteen years ago) link
lol Baader-Meinhof phenomenon. i actually attended my first talk on this idea today. no idea if it's worth anything tho. not my area. anything "outside the universe"/multiverse is nonsense though, i do know that.
― caek, Thursday, 25 March 2010 17:45 (fourteen years ago) link
are u saying u don't believe in the DEADLIGHTS?
Wonders Of the Solar System was very good, I've decided, and I regret missing the second one now.
― Jermaine Jenason (darraghmac), Monday, 29 March 2010 10:07 (fourteen years ago) link
the whole thing is on iplayer until the season finishes! http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00qyxfb
― caek, Monday, 29 March 2010 10:08 (fourteen years ago) link
is it likely that i will be able to watch that from ireland tho? believe i've had difficulty before.
― Jermaine Jenason (darraghmac), Monday, 29 March 2010 10:11 (fourteen years ago) link
it is not likely.
― Jermaine Jenason (darraghmac), Monday, 29 March 2010 10:12 (fourteen years ago) link
lol ireland. looks like it's on bittorrent.
― caek, Monday, 29 March 2010 11:11 (fourteen years ago) link
Wonders Of the Solar System was very good, I've decided, and I regret missing the second one now
The actual content of this has been excellent at times, and Prof Cox has really won me over. Only disappointment is that the cgi recreations of asteroids clashing, geysers on Io etc are all accompanied by KABOOM noises, which for a show that aims to be factual is pretty sloppy (I realise this is to make these events more "exciting", but same applies).
― Bill A, Monday, 29 March 2010 11:23 (fourteen years ago) link
also, i didn't experience the sulphur poisoning that i would have expected while hovering above io's explosions O_o
― Jermaine Jenason (darraghmac), Monday, 29 March 2010 11:27 (fourteen years ago) link
Cox hasn't won me over, but he got easier to tolerate.
He had the earnest, dead eyes and smile of an apologetic young canon lecturing to college students.
― Jermaine Jenason (darraghmac), Monday, 29 March 2010 11:29 (fourteen years ago) link
Hem, hem, I rather think that they gave the Cassini spacecraft a few coats of sulphur-proof paint for this very reason, before it was sent off into the void. If they had equipped it with a Radio Shack condenser mic as well then we could've heard the sound of yon geysers...
― Bill A, Monday, 29 March 2010 11:41 (fourteen years ago) link
anyway pictures and graphics of space on prime time telly = win
― Jermaine Jenason (darraghmac), Monday, 29 March 2010 11:46 (fourteen years ago) link
important space video: http://vimeo.com/3921306
― caek, Monday, 29 March 2010 11:47 (fourteen years ago) link
See, that (awesome) vid shows a way that some artistic flair can be fused with incredible space footage. I'm being a churlish about Prof Cox's show simply because the producer has gone with some lazy "rock music and sound FX" accompaniment for sights which deserve a bit more imo (but totally agree with you darragh, wld much rather have more of this kind of thing on the telly - as a youth I'd be bug eyed during The Sky At Night, and if Cox can do the same for today's youngsters then more power to him).
― Bill A, Monday, 29 March 2010 12:04 (fourteen years ago) link
i should watch this brian cox thing!
― caek, Monday, 29 March 2010 12:05 (fourteen years ago) link
I've enjoyed what I've seen of it but I do find Cox's presentation style a little distracting. Also he looks like a mate of ours which makes it worse.
― Allbran Burg (Noodle Vague), Monday, 29 March 2010 12:33 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah i think so- it's baby level stuff for you i'd say but the pattern is beginning to emerge- last night he went to various volcanic sites on earth (jammy get is really milking it imo) and then cut to a segment of "if you thought that was impressive" showing olympus mons and what have you.
it's definitely a show i'd have flipped over as a teen, and as i said it's still well worth watching now.
― Jermaine Jenason (darraghmac), Monday, 29 March 2010 12:34 (fourteen years ago) link
(xp)
cox's whole steez is "it really makes u *think*" but i'm getting over it tbh.
He just has odd little Jamie Oliver-isms - cool guy thinking baout stuff - that irk a bit.
― Allbran Burg (Noodle Vague), Monday, 29 March 2010 12:36 (fourteen years ago) link
he just really grated on me. he's so...deep man, y'know?
yep
― Jermaine Jenason (darraghmac), Monday, 29 March 2010 12:39 (fourteen years ago) link
I guess it mightn't be down to Cox so much as the director - don't really need to see establishing shots of you riding a quad bike up a hill for example.
― Allbran Burg (Noodle Vague), Monday, 29 March 2010 12:41 (fourteen years ago) link
could be worse, i suppose- could be davina or claudia winkleman.
― Jermaine Jenason (darraghmac), Monday, 29 March 2010 12:50 (fourteen years ago) link
hi caek
― velko, Tuesday, 30 March 2010 16:51 (fourteen years ago) link
sup
― caek, Tuesday, 30 March 2010 21:57 (fourteen years ago) link
hey caek how's munich tonite
― Jesse James Woods (darraghmac), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 22:29 (fourteen years ago) link
i am drunk x 1 billion so not sure about the city
― caek, Tuesday, 30 March 2010 22:31 (fourteen years ago) link
ok sound
― Jesse James Woods (darraghmac), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 22:42 (fourteen years ago) link
although i am concerned at your lack of scientific notation usage
― Jesse James Woods (darraghmac), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 22:43 (fourteen years ago) link
drunk x 10^9
wait that's an American billion dude
― drink more beer and the doctor is a heghog (gbx), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 22:51 (fourteen years ago) link
there is no such thing as an Irish billion
― j0rdslovesomedude (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 22:54 (fourteen years ago) link
nah i thought we'd all settled on a thousand million at this stage?
xp lol NAMA joke
― Jesse James Woods (darraghmac), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 22:54 (fourteen years ago) link
oh right that's yr thing innit
xp
― drink more beer and the doctor is a heghog (gbx), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 22:55 (fourteen years ago) link
if there was it would be measured in ale and hats
― j0rdslovesomedude (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 22:55 (fourteen years ago) link
i say lol i mean fuck this country to pieces, piss on the pieces and then salt the scattered remains
― Jesse James Woods (darraghmac), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 22:55 (fourteen years ago) link
and in any case a thousand million is the british billion iirc?
― Jesse James Woods (darraghmac), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 22:57 (fourteen years ago) link
I don't think so?
― drink more beer and the doctor is a heghog (gbx), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 23:28 (fourteen years ago) link
i am reasonably certain of this, even at twenty to one in the morning
― Jesse James Woods (darraghmac), Tuesday, 30 March 2010 23:40 (fourteen years ago) link
a "british billion" was a million million. a thousand million, aka a "us billion" was a "milliard". uk government changed in 1974 tho.
i am hungover
― caek, Wednesday, 31 March 2010 08:08 (fourteen years ago) link
x 1 milliard?
― the big pink suede panda bear hurts (ledge), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 09:33 (fourteen years ago) link
ish
― caek, Wednesday, 31 March 2010 10:17 (fourteen years ago) link
Mm, i'm going to have to check out this Cox In Space thing. When is it on? (Hope it's on one of the channels we get overseas)
― StanM, Wednesday, 31 March 2010 11:09 (fourteen years ago) link
it's on bbc2, so you should be safe enough there. i think it's on sunday evenings, but my brain is old and it may be monday
― Jesse James Woods (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 11:09 (fourteen years ago) link
sunday at 9 on bbc2
― caek, Wednesday, 31 March 2010 11:17 (fourteen years ago) link
thx!
― StanM, Wednesday, 31 March 2010 12:29 (fourteen years ago) link
when i get around to watching this, if i find it to my satisfaction, i will be happy to send it to anyone who wants to see it. we're probably going to screen it in a lecture theatre somewhere here in münchen.
― caek, Wednesday, 31 March 2010 12:34 (fourteen years ago) link
"thousands of women of a certain age have developed a sudden and burning interest in particle physics"
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 31 March 2010 12:46 (fourteen years ago) link
More than just a pretty face: Brian Cox gained a physics degree at Manchester University when he was 23
WOW PRECOCIOUS
― Top Geir (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 12:47 (fourteen years ago) link
lol dailymail.co.uk
pretty sure kate has professed love for him on this board btw
― caek, Wednesday, 31 March 2010 12:48 (fourteen years ago) link
He is honestly the spit of my friend Michael.
― Top Geir (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 12:50 (fourteen years ago) link
Things Can Only Get Wetter
― StanM, Wednesday, 31 March 2010 14:58 (fourteen years ago) link
Hi dere.
I was interested in physics *way* before I discovered Brian Cox. I think I might have found out about him asking on ILX "who was that DDB on Horizon last night?" several years ago. Humph. (I have already had the "I knew about him before you did!" conversation with a fellow electronic musician who was being all Losing My Edge about him because he liked the film Sunshine.)
Though, if you want to point the blame at a TV science hotty, you might want to ask a prepubescent Kate about Carl Sagan.
My illustrations on Flickr have picked up a sudden surge of interest since this programme began, though.
― Delia & Daphne & Celeste (Masonic Boom), Wednesday, 31 March 2010 15:54 (fourteen years ago) link
I was interested in physics *way* before I discovered Brian Cox.
i know, the mail thing just reminded me you had already identified him at talent. i remember talking to you about him here in 2006ish.
― caek, Wednesday, 31 March 2010 19:22 (fourteen years ago) link
going to do a bunch of not reading ilx for a few weeks. will be back for the world cup. i wish you all nothing but the very best in all things.
― caek, Thursday, 13 May 2010 20:19 (thirteen years ago) link
rip you
― max, Thursday, 13 May 2010 20:28 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISVZ3GrMJk8
― caek, Thursday, 13 May 2010 20:34 (thirteen years ago) link
come back soon dude
― Consensus Working Overtime (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 13 May 2010 20:41 (thirteen years ago) link
lucky you, wish I could do that
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 13 May 2010 20:45 (thirteen years ago) link
r.i. piece of caek
― May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Friday, 14 May 2010 08:40 (thirteen years ago) link
I've started re-watching Wonders Of The Solar System now Kate's WDYLL picture reminded me that I've ordered it on blu-ray - its glorious and breathtaking HD quality is another reason to be happy I took the blu-ray plunge. I've seen a couple of earlier Brian Cox things (about time and CERN and stuff) and I'm a fan of his contagious enthusiasm, but I find I always have to adjust to his accent a little bit. "... about everythink. But you'd be wrongue." :-)
― StanM, Sunday, 30 May 2010 18:05 (thirteen years ago) link
dear caek
what is this I am hearing about Betelgeuse
― some men enjoy the feeling of being owned (acoleuthic), Friday, 4 June 2010 00:43 (thirteen years ago) link
*awaits ten tons of real-talk*
― some men enjoy the feeling of being owned (acoleuthic), Friday, 4 June 2010 01:02 (thirteen years ago) link
hiyo!
― caek, Saturday, 5 June 2010 15:28 (thirteen years ago) link
where you been at?
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 5 June 2010 15:29 (thirteen years ago) link
my desk for a month. it sucked. back for world cup madness/12 hour nights shifts at an observatory in texas.
― caek, Saturday, 5 June 2010 15:41 (thirteen years ago) link
In an observatory, do you actually do any looking through telescopes, or is that old hat?
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 5 June 2010 16:15 (thirteen years ago) link
you don't use your eyes, no. the detector is a CCD, just like in a digital SLR camera.
― caek, Saturday, 5 June 2010 16:31 (thirteen years ago) link
http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2010/04jun_swef/
caek on a scale of 1-10 how worried should I be?
― fruiting bodies of minds in agony (dyao), Monday, 7 June 2010 09:14 (thirteen years ago) link
This happens every 11 years, doesn't it? I don't think we should be to worr
― StanM, Monday, 7 June 2010 09:16 (thirteen years ago) link
stanm how were you able to click the 'submit post' button?!?!
― fruiting bodies of minds in agony (dyao), Monday, 7 June 2010 09:16 (thirteen years ago) link
DAMN! busted ;-)
― StanM, Monday, 7 June 2010 09:21 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, i think that refers to the regular 11 year solar cycle. next peak is 2013. you should be worried 2/10 : )
― caek, Monday, 7 June 2010 10:08 (thirteen years ago) link
Patrick Moore's "The Sky At Night" was on last night. It was surreal - I don't think I've seen him on telly since Gamesmaster. What a strange guy.
― village idiot (dog latin), Monday, 7 June 2010 10:10 (thirteen years ago) link
he is a very old man
― caek, Monday, 7 June 2010 11:25 (thirteen years ago) link
right wing mentalist too, but I do enjoy The Sky at Night.
― every time i pull a j/k off the shelf (Noodle Vague), Monday, 7 June 2010 11:26 (thirteen years ago) link
what a pro:
On 26 April 1957, at 10:30 pm, in an event that was to be a landmark of his career, Moore presented the first episode of The Sky at Night, a BBC television programme for astronomy enthusiasts. Since then, he has presented every episode each month, excepting July 2004, because of a near-fatal bout of food poisoning caused by eating a contaminated goose egg.
― caek, Monday, 7 June 2010 11:27 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, he is mental, xp
i usually tear up at the end credits of sky at night tbh
― caek, Monday, 7 June 2010 11:28 (thirteen years ago) link
even is he is a racist paleoconservative
― caek, Monday, 7 June 2010 11:29 (thirteen years ago) link
I was also watching Sky at Night last night and pleased that it's been going all this time with no horrible flashy re-boots, just some peeps discussing new discoveries in unpatronising layman's language. Hope it can continue like that when Moore eventually has to pack it in.
― every time i pull a j/k off the shelf (Noodle Vague), Monday, 7 June 2010 11:30 (thirteen years ago) link
xpost
Yeah he is a guy who I can separate his politics from his other fine attributes.
― every time i pull a j/k off the shelf (Noodle Vague), Monday, 7 June 2010 11:31 (thirteen years ago) link
He writes books with Brian May from Queen and a very astronomy looking young dude.
― May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Monday, 7 June 2010 16:38 (thirteen years ago) link
http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/20100607/sc_space/strangediscoveryontitanleadstospeculationofalienlife
caek should we be interested/concerned/frightened about this strangediscoveryontitan that has apparently led tospeculationofalienlife?
― del griffith, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 04:53 (thirteen years ago) link
what's this shit?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_hole
― louiiiis jjjjagger (S-), Tuesday, 8 June 2010 16:00 (thirteen years ago) link
some fucking space shit iirc. dunno!
xp, you should take note of this discovery, for the beings are certainly taking note of you.
― caek, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 20:20 (thirteen years ago) link
EVERYBODY PANIC (*)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/space/7819201/Nasa-warns-solar-flares-from-huge-space-storm-will-cause-devastation.html
(*) again. Stupid newspapers.
― StanM, Monday, 14 June 2010 19:56 (thirteen years ago) link
How do I set up a mailman list to which non-members can post questions, comments, and problems to which members can respond without non-members posts getting bounced and with non-members receiving and auto-reply acknowledgment? This is administered within my institution. I don't know if that affects things. I tried to do this through Privacy Options -> Sender Filters -> generic_nonmember_something-or-the-other set to Accept, but this did not seem to work. No auto-replies. No posts. Thanks in advance for any help that you can provide that is probably unrelated to your known area of expertise.
― youn, Monday, 14 June 2010 22:51 (thirteen years ago) link
non-members'an
― youn, Monday, 14 June 2010 22:52 (thirteen years ago) link
I know you can set it up to accept posts from non-members. Presumably it's just a switch in the admin interface? Not sure about autoreplies though. Worst comes to the worst, you could set up a dummy gmail account to receive all posts and acknowledge them using an autoreply (in a way that appears to come from the list admin).
― caek, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 22:26 (thirteen years ago) link
this is an unsatisfactory situation: http://observatories.hodar.com/mcdonald/index.html
four fully clear nights in a row on a 60% site though, so i'm not complaining.
― caek, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 22:28 (thirteen years ago) link
it is very cloudy here so we are goofing off with a seriously fancy teleescope. we just discovered saturn.
― caek, Thursday, 17 June 2010 05:11 (thirteen years ago) link
congrats 2 u
― Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 June 2010 09:04 (thirteen years ago) link
thanks. discovering a planet was a big moment in my career. high on coffee right now.
― caek, Thursday, 17 June 2010 09:21 (thirteen years ago) link
you guys are gonna go far off this- have you though of a manager/agent?
― Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 June 2010 09:23 (thirteen years ago) link
are you offering?
― caek, Thursday, 17 June 2010 09:25 (thirteen years ago) link
earlier today by the little telescope we will be using tomorrow night
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs488.ash1/26696_10150220656075305_673235304_12898372_1925929_n.jpg
― caek, Thursday, 17 June 2010 09:26 (thirteen years ago) link
if you can convince me that there's a commercial future for saturn exploitation then i'll take youse on, sure
― Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 June 2010 09:27 (thirteen years ago) link
caek, imo, has the life
failing to take a photo of myself on the side of the mountain
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f325/caek/IMG_3374.jpg
― caek, Thursday, 17 June 2010 09:34 (thirteen years ago) link
(not shown in this picture: terrible, terrible sunburnt bald spot from all day drinking england/usa match the day before)
― caek, Thursday, 17 June 2010 09:35 (thirteen years ago) link
fuuuck you get bald and sunburnt from drinking?
too late to quit now, but at least i know what happened to me.
― Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 June 2010 09:37 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, drinking and watching football:baldness::morbid obesity:diabetes : (
― caek, Thursday, 17 June 2010 09:38 (thirteen years ago) link
caek's corner is a depressing place lately, we should party and fun times up in here
― Remember when Mr Banhart was a replicant? (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 June 2010 10:12 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.theme-party-palace.com/images/space-party-invite.jpg
― caek, Thursday, 17 June 2010 10:46 (thirteen years ago) link
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f325/caek/lhs-scout-parade-band-1.jpg
― caek, Thursday, 17 June 2010 10:48 (thirteen years ago) link
thesis time. wish me luck.
-- caek out.
― caek, Wednesday, 21 July 2010 09:22 (thirteen years ago) link
luck.
― Everytime I hit 'submit post' the internet gets dumber (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 09:38 (thirteen years ago) link
courage!
― oligopoly golightly (c sharp major), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 09:40 (thirteen years ago) link
upwards
― dyao, Wednesday, 21 July 2010 12:37 (thirteen years ago) link
per aspera ad astra
― be told and get high on coconut (gbx), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 14:12 (thirteen years ago) link
audere est facere
― Everytime I hit 'submit post' the internet gets dumber (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 14:16 (thirteen years ago) link
Carthago delenda est
― ledge, Wednesday, 21 July 2010 14:18 (thirteen years ago) link
mi casa su casa
― be told and get high on coconut (gbx), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 14:20 (thirteen years ago) link
go n-eiri and bothar leat
― Everytime I hit 'submit post' the internet gets dumber (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 14:24 (thirteen years ago) link
Rock on.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 21 July 2010 14:26 (thirteen years ago) link
ou sont les neiges autrefois?
― Everytime I hit 'submit post' the internet gets dumber (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 14:26 (thirteen years ago) link
yo caek what's the fuckin craic where's the warnings of all these asteroids that are nearly hitting us man? what we payin you for?
― k¸ (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 September 2010 11:23 (thirteen years ago) link
(caek can't check ilx as he's beeing steering the entire planet on manual control the past two days)
― k¸ (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 September 2010 11:31 (thirteen years ago) link
yah phd been pretty much under control for a month so i've been moonlighting by steering asteroids and posting on ilx. it's been pretty chill.
― caek, Thursday, 9 September 2010 11:44 (thirteen years ago) link
still in germany? what are your living plans for the foreseeable?
― acoleuthic, Thursday, 9 September 2010 11:47 (thirteen years ago) link
in munich until the end of the year. submit in december, viva in jan, after that is tbc. i'm finishing out of sync with the academic year (which is how the job market works too), so worst case scenario is back in with the 'rents until the summer, although that wouldn't be so bad. dad + wife have kids who are 4 and 1. best case scenario is a ~6 month contract in one of a couple of places in the US, which i have been supposed to get news about "later this week" for the last two months.
what about you? i thought you dropped out of your masters and then you were all like "i have an exam tomorrow". i guess you have finished now?
where is gbx does anyone know? i miss him so.
― caek, Thursday, 9 September 2010 12:08 (thirteen years ago) link
ah nice - well I hope you teach the kids the value of playing to the whistle, if you do end up shacked with 'em - godspeed the American applications though
I have finished now, yes, although I only find out later this month whether I've passed my resits! I have it on my CV that I spent a year working on the Masters, and obviously while I'd really like to have passed, if one piffling module fails me I'll still have completed a large and comprehensive course of work. Pretty confident though. I came very close to tapping out a few times but I ain't a quitter - finish their MA and get out of there tbh
gbx is *coming to London* pretty soon - his sister is studying here! I am so so psyched to meet the guy, all-time ILX dude
― acoleuthic, Thursday, 9 September 2010 12:23 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, worth getting the letters after yr name if at all possible. good work.
― caek, Thursday, 9 September 2010 12:46 (thirteen years ago) link
letters after ur name- ILX (All time)
― k¸ (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 September 2010 13:21 (thirteen years ago) link
Master of ILX (or MILX) should be a thing.
― seandalai, Thursday, 9 September 2010 13:28 (thirteen years ago) link
milx vs toast
― k¸ (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 September 2010 13:30 (thirteen years ago) link
M.ILX, maj. Football threads.
Originally signed up for Zing degree, transferred after dept shut down ;_;
― k¸ (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 September 2010 13:32 (thirteen years ago) link
♪♫ love u space ♪♫
― caek, Monday, 4 October 2010 20:54 (thirteen years ago) link
that is cute.
― mmmm, Monday, 4 October 2010 21:21 (thirteen years ago) link
coooooooooooooooooooooool
― journey to the end of nyt (nakhchivan), Monday, 4 October 2010 21:33 (thirteen years ago) link
srsly, nice mnml ryoji ikeda soundtrack too
― journey to the end of nyt (nakhchivan), Monday, 4 October 2010 21:34 (thirteen years ago) link
fucking love the space IDM XPOST
― acoleuthic, Monday, 4 October 2010 21:34 (thirteen years ago) link
that darn nakhchivan
― acoleuthic, Monday, 4 October 2010 21:35 (thirteen years ago) link
there is always above air by CoH, a 'concept album' abt a pilot floating in and out of consciousness in the upper atmosphere
― journey to the end of nyt (nakhchivan), Monday, 4 October 2010 21:39 (thirteen years ago) link
caek do you know that this is all about (apologies if posted elsewhere)
is it aliens?
http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2010/nov/HQ_M10-167_Astrobiology.html
― rent, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 13:42 (thirteen years ago) link
judging by the people involved giving the conference, it's something in the solar system (so not another exoplanet discovery). a "finding that will impact the search for evidence of extraterrestrial life" suggests it may even be a discovery on earth, which would also make sense given people involved.
findings on earth that would impact the search for evidence of ET life include some new form of life that can survive in very extreme conditions, or, and this would be a very very big deal: clear evidence that life started twice on earth in the form of something that does not share the common ancestor that all currently known life shares.
doesn't sound like aliens though :-(
― caek, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 13:53 (thirteen years ago) link
finally, a noble gas-based lifeform
― .\ /. (dayo), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 14:08 (thirteen years ago) link
i was on holiday at the time, but i think bill clinton gave the 1997 one on life on mars, so this is clearly not _that_ big
― caek, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 14:20 (thirteen years ago) link
blast from the past http://www2.jpl.nasa.gov/snc/clinton.html
― caek, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 14:31 (thirteen years ago) link
>finally, a noble gas-based lifeform
I, for one, welcome our Argonian overlords and their lilac glow.
― Bill A, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 14:40 (thirteen years ago) link
caek otm: http://nasawatch.com/archives/2010/11/mediablogger-ex.html
― caek, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:05 (thirteen years ago) link
this would be a very very big deal: clear evidence that life started twice on earth in the form of something that does not share the common ancestor that all currently known life shares.
good call. this would be dope.
― BIG MUFFIN (gbx), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:09 (thirteen years ago) link
if life has started once on earth it doesn't prove much about whether it started elsewhere, especially since, as far as we can tell, the odds against it are overwhelming. if it's started twice on earth than that doesn't just double the number of times we know it started. it also proves there's something wrong with our calculation of the odds, and they're not actually that remote. and that all but guarantees there is life elsewhere.
thinking about it, that would be the kind of news that would be so big they might get the president involved, so maybe it's just arsenic stuff.
someone on this thread has access to the paper.
ne way, i started a phd in this stuff in australia (with the first author on that paper before he moved to AZ, as it happens), so it is relevant to my interests.
― caek, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:21 (thirteen years ago) link
although i'm handing my own phd thesis in on friday (conclusion: there is more magnesium in the middle bit of this one galaxy than in the outside bit), so i'm pretty annoyed this is going to blow my stuff off the front page.
― caek, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:22 (thirteen years ago) link
WHO HAS IT
― BIG MUFFIN (gbx), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:26 (thirteen years ago) link
Your phd thesis needs some tie-in between magnesium and the prevelance of cute, naked women. Pics helpful. It wouldn't have to be a very strong tie to get yoiu back onto the front page, imo.
― Aimless, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:41 (thirteen years ago) link
caek if u feed me the angle ill sensationalize it on gawker for u
― max, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:00 (thirteen years ago) link
only if the dentonator gives me double what the iphone 4 guy got
― caek, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 21:05 (thirteen years ago) link
caek what is this nonsense about rings in the background microwave radiation proving the universe has started over and over again? is penrose high as usual?
― e.g. delegates at a set age (ledge), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 00:05 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2010/11/recycled-universe/
― e.g. delegates at a set age (ledge), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 00:07 (thirteen years ago) link
i'm not an expert on CMB analysis, which is something people spend careers on. neither is penrose for that matter. that is utter nonsense imo.
― caek, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 00:58 (thirteen years ago) link
always wondered what happened him after dangermouse got cancelled
― Goths in Home & Away in my lifetime (darraghmac), Wednesday, 1 December 2010 01:00 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2010/12/epic-discovery-nasa-discovers-new-non-dna-based-life-form-to-be-annouced-at-2-pm-est.html
― max, Thursday, 2 December 2010 16:47 (thirteen years ago) link
whoa
― BIG MUFFIN (gbx), Thursday, 2 December 2010 16:49 (thirteen years ago) link
rad!
― caek, Thursday, 2 December 2010 16:51 (thirteen years ago) link
so cool
― max, Thursday, 2 December 2010 16:51 (thirteen years ago) link
here we go!
― gospermaban sim gishel (acoleuthic), Thursday, 2 December 2010 16:52 (thirteen years ago) link
trending right now #gävlegoat #arsenic
― caek, Thursday, 2 December 2010 16:53 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57PENuNVapc&feature=related
― caek, Friday, 3 December 2010 15:22 (thirteen years ago) link
so fucking cool
― I love you girls but that music is for radical faeries (Matt P), Friday, 3 December 2010 15:34 (thirteen years ago) link
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_4Oy_7FFvAeg/Sun71WaOgWI/AAAAAAAAFuE/MSgPNQt8O3A/s400/Arsenic+mouth+stuff+www.amazingribs.com+cary_grant.jpg
― I love you girls but that music is for radical faeries (Matt P), Friday, 3 December 2010 15:37 (thirteen years ago) link
hey caek do you think this is a cool graphic why or why not thx love yr stuff
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2445/4002050596_0c2b6c4dd2_o.jpg
― kanellos (gbx), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 00:33 (thirteen years ago) link
it's amazing data, but the graphic itself is (1) kind of confusing imo (2) loses the opportunity to lay down some serious multi-dimensionality (see VDQI by tufte for details)
the voyager mission is probably my favourite thing re: human space exploration.
― caek, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 04:48 (thirteen years ago) link
via this discussion:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2011/jan/09/giant-magellan-telescope-robin-mckie
― caek, Sunday, 9 January 2011 14:46 (thirteen years ago) link
http://imgsrc.hubblesite.org/hu/db/images/hs-2011-06-a-large_web.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/2K5rH.gif
― caek, Friday, 18 February 2011 08:39 (thirteen years ago) link
via
― caek, Friday, 18 February 2011 08:40 (thirteen years ago) link
Cox's Wonders Of The Universe (4 parts, first part was on BBC HD yesterday and is on BBC 2 in England tomorrow) : C/D ?(I'll probably just order the blu-ray if they make one)
― StanM, Monday, 7 March 2011 18:16 (thirteen years ago) link
if you can deal with the brian cox and the top gear test report style "CINEMATOGRAPHY" then everything he says is pretty solid, i think.
― caek, Monday, 7 March 2011 22:14 (thirteen years ago) link
Although he got to it eventually he got my back up by saying there was no physical law that prevented a glacier from reconstituting itself. Nothing in classical mechanics says it can't happen by thermodynamics certainly has something to say on the matter. Are these not physical laws or are they devalued because us engineers came up with them?
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Monday, 7 March 2011 22:17 (thirteen years ago) link
hey caek i cant find your email--do you want to give an official comment on this
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/22/us-venezuela-chavez-mars-idUSTRE72L61D20110322?
― max, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 02:53 (thirteen years ago) link
"chavez otm"
― caek, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 18:30 (thirteen years ago) link
haha that is an amazing article
― caek, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 18:31 (thirteen years ago) link
"Careful! Here on planet Earth where hundreds of years ago or less there were great forests, now there are deserts. Where there were rivers, there are deserts," Chavez said, sipping from a glass of water.
haha i wish you had been around last night, i wanted to quote you in my post on the subject
― max, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 18:40 (thirteen years ago) link
"Chavez OTM," said an astrophysicist familiar with the history of class struggle on Mars.
the best part about the article is the reuters editor going "hmm, this isnt long enough... can we bring in a couple paragraphs about mars missions?"
― max, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 18:41 (thirteen years ago) link
haha if you can do a follow up i would be literally thrilled to be quoted on this! seriously, my parents would be so happy.
― caek, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 18:42 (thirteen years ago) link
next time i have a good article about economics on other planets ill solicit a quote
― max, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 18:43 (thirteen years ago) link
i actually read the article last night and tried to think of a comment, but i was really drunk on 241 beer and couldn't make any sense of it. i missed my chance! THANKS jjj and goole.
― caek, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 18:45 (thirteen years ago) link
your one shot at fame
― max, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 18:47 (thirteen years ago) link
i added you on facebook so you can reach me quickly for future leftists/planetary issues
― caek, Wednesday, 23 March 2011 18:51 (thirteen years ago) link
wait did you dudes go to the t rock?
― FUN FUN FUN FUN (gbx), Thursday, 24 March 2011 01:40 (thirteen years ago) link
yes! our server had a face tattoo and i drunk surly! it was a magical mpls adventure.
― caek, Thursday, 24 March 2011 04:09 (thirteen years ago) link
saw the tat face lady at 241s last night. forgot how crowded that place gets when the weather's nice.
what was your favorite part about mpls? when are you moving here? what neighborhood will you live in? rent in NE is v cheap iirc, but it as almost as isolated and barren as w st paul.
-gbx
― FUN FUN FUN FUN (gbx), Thursday, 31 March 2011 00:48 (thirteen years ago) link
(j/k jj wsp is dope as heck)
my favourite thing about mpls was mpls. i really liked it! some highlights were the birchwood cafe (fell in love with pretty much every waitress there) and also the fancy pants bar bit of "cafe and bar lurcat". the airport had a good vibe too, which is a useful litmus test for a town too ime.
re: when am i moving there? "it's complicated". i will know either way in a couple of weeks!
― caek, Thursday, 31 March 2011 04:45 (thirteen years ago) link
http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/infocus/texasfire042011/s_t01_00000001.jpg
The Texas Forest Service undertook controlled burns on Sunday, April 17, 2011 to get rid of fuel on the mountains around McDonald Observatory in the Davis Mountains of West Texas. Here, Black Mountain is burning. The Hobby-Eberly Telescope dome is at right. (Frank Cianciolo/McDonald Observatory)
― caek, Wednesday, 20 April 2011 20:03 (thirteen years ago) link
ey up caek, this sounds important and impressive and so on? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-13462926
― sometimes all it takes is a healthy dose of continental indiepop (tomofthenest), Thursday, 19 May 2011 21:58 (twelve years ago) link
yeah that's good work
― caek, Friday, 20 May 2011 10:49 (twelve years ago) link
http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ljgouzxixQ1qidrloo1_500.png
the smaller photo here is ngc891, which is the archetypal example of the kind of galaxy i did my phd on: edge-on galaxies with central bulges that are kind of boxy. these dude's know what's up.
― caek, Thursday, 26 May 2011 15:26 (twelve years ago) link
caek is this what it looks like when you're on the grind
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFpeM3fxJoQ
― dayo, Monday, 30 May 2011 01:36 (twelve years ago) link
pretty much, but my observing gets done mostly in way less extreme locations, e.g. west texas
http://i.min.us/iwGYU.jpg
― caek, Monday, 30 May 2011 08:02 (twelve years ago) link
excelsior
― mookieproof, Monday, 30 May 2011 08:04 (twelve years ago) link
^^ pictures of people who seem to have figured out how to live imo
nice vid too dayo
― russ conway's game of life (a passing spacecadet), Monday, 30 May 2011 10:13 (twelve years ago) link
all hail west texas :D
― now at least you know what old-school doctor who fans are like (Noodle Vague), Monday, 30 May 2011 11:36 (twelve years ago) link
that observatory is the only place on UT land where you are allowed to drink alcohol without campus police present
― caek, Monday, 30 May 2011 12:57 (twelve years ago) link
beat me to it
― cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 03:23 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.americanscientist.org/bookshelf/pub/fun-with-fysiks
aw yeah
In the United States, the job market for people with doctorates in physics collapsed around 1970, as the huge post-Sputnik expansion of American university hiring and military spending came to an abrupt halt. By the mid-1980s, things hadn’t improved much, and it seemed likely that my recent Ph.D. in theoretical physics would be of little use in finding conventional permanent academic employment. One possible career path that came to mind was to try to follow the example of a sizable group of physicists who lived and worked in the San Francisco Bay Area during the 1970s. They appeared to have managed to pursue scientific research by dropping out of academia and adopting a countercultural lifestyle that included soaking in hot tubs at Big Sur, engaging in Tantric sex, hanging out at North Beach cafes and taking psychedelic drugs. Some of them had gotten rich writing books that mixed physics with various kinds of mysticism. I wasn’t very interested in the mysticism part, but I figured I could handle the rest.For better or worse, I did end up moving to the Bay Area for a year, but as a respectable post-doc in mathematics I saw little or no evidence of the continued existence of these countercultural physicists, and I wondered what had happened to them. David Kaiser’s entertaining new book, How the Hippies Saved Physics, does a wonderful job of recounting the twists and turns of the story of how the members of this group came together, interacted with one another and with the more conventional physics community, and then dispersed to various fates.
For better or worse, I did end up moving to the Bay Area for a year, but as a respectable post-doc in mathematics I saw little or no evidence of the continued existence of these countercultural physicists, and I wondered what had happened to them. David Kaiser’s entertaining new book, How the Hippies Saved Physics, does a wonderful job of recounting the twists and turns of the story of how the members of this group came together, interacted with one another and with the more conventional physics community, and then dispersed to various fates.
― caek, Monday, 13 June 2011 22:06 (twelve years ago) link
my observing run in australia started a couple of hours ago.
weather looks doooope
http://i.min.us/idHbYm.jpg
― caek, Monday, 27 June 2011 09:33 (twelve years ago) link
Wait... you're IN aus? or just controlling a 'scope, or?
― Bloompsday (Trayce), Monday, 27 June 2011 09:35 (twelve years ago) link
my colleagues are there driving the telescope and i am chiming in via email for the first night. i would love to have gone but it is only four nights. bit of a trek.
― caek, Monday, 27 June 2011 09:41 (twelve years ago) link
♥ clear skies ♥
― caek, Monday, 27 June 2011 09:47 (twelve years ago) link
Technology is so cool <3
― Bloompsday (Trayce), Monday, 27 June 2011 09:49 (twelve years ago) link
which is your favorite star
― ☂ (max), Monday, 27 June 2011 11:42 (twelve years ago) link
betelgeuse because of the movie they made about it
― caek, Monday, 27 June 2011 12:13 (twelve years ago) link
but seriously, it's this beauty http://snfactory.lbl.gov/snf/spstds/EG131
― caek, Monday, 27 June 2011 12:14 (twelve years ago) link
oh nice http://appropriations.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=250023
― caek, Thursday, 7 July 2011 10:18 (twelve years ago) link
> >This is not the last word. The House Appropriations Subcommittee> >will consider this bill tomorrow. And the Senate will also have a> >separate bill on NASA funding. However, in the present climate this> >step puts the centerpiece of astronomy's future at great risk.> >> >JWST and Astrophysics has entered a very dangerous zone.> >> >The impacts are numerous if JWST is terminated:> >> >1) termination is very damaging for future astronomy and> >astrophysics scientific productivity and for the pre-eminence of US> >science;> >> >2) termination would result in no observatory-class mission to carry> >out broadly-based research when the current Great Observatories reach> >end-of-life;> >> >3) termination undercuts the Decadal Survey process since it was the> >top ranked program in the prior 2000 Decadal Survey, and it is> >identified numerous times in the 2010 Decadal Survey as a> >foundational program for future astrophysics research;> >> >4) termination of JWST, as the natural successor to Hubble, would> >result in the loss, once Hubble fails, of a very large part of the> >remarkable public interest that astronomy has enjoyed;> >> >5) termination would eliminate a major source of inspirational> >science education and outreach results, particularly for the interest> >in STEM (science, technology, engineering and math) that comes from> >the high profile HST and JWST science results;> >> >6) termination would reduce the strength and visibility world-wide> >of the US science program, not just astrophysics;> >> >7) termination would reduce US credibility as an international> >partner given the Canadian and European partnership on JWST and their> >substantial contributions to the program;> >> >8) termination of JWST, following on from the termination of the SSC> >(Superconducting Super Collider), would send the message that the US> >is relinquishing leadership in major science projects -- it will be> >very difficult to start any other major science project or mission;> >> >9) termination would eliminate the broadly-based research funding> >for the community that results from the Great Observatory-class> >missions if none are operating, and greatly reduces opportunities for> >undergraduate, graduate and post-graduate education;> >> >It is essential that we make our voices heard.
― caek, Thursday, 7 July 2011 10:19 (twelve years ago) link
sorry this belongs here: NASA: "We're going back to the moon!"
Yeah the Cyclotron here in Melb has also been hit with "sorry no money guys" govy issues recently that threatens to close it. Sucks.
― Bloompsday (Trayce), Thursday, 7 July 2011 11:05 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.astro.caltech.edu/palomar/images/blog/Mrkos.jpg
― caek, Saturday, 16 July 2011 10:48 (twelve years ago) link
oh yeah, I saw this last month and thought of this thread but then forgot to post it. This is one of those small innocent discoveries that could just as well have massive implications for our understanding of everything:
http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2011/06/x-ray-penetration-of-earliest-galaxies-reveals-massive-black-holes-in-existence.html
― StanM, Saturday, 16 July 2011 18:52 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i know those guys. not necessarily a surprising discovery, but a very impressive observation!
― caek, Saturday, 16 July 2011 18:56 (twelve years ago) link
http://i.min.us/ibKx5O.jpeg
― caek, Saturday, 16 July 2011 18:57 (twelve years ago) link
behold the face of god!
― ledge, Sunday, 17 July 2011 08:49 (twelve years ago) link
http://i51.tinypic.com/153a045.jpg
― ledge, Sunday, 17 July 2011 08:53 (twelve years ago) link
looll
― caek, Monday, 18 July 2011 15:41 (twelve years ago) link
gah i'm going nuts, using vim for the first time in ages and can't remember the keystroke that reformats wrapping text to a fixed width that respects "words"
if that makes sense. not an easy thing to google
― g++ (gbx), Friday, 29 July 2011 16:12 (twelve years ago) link
in .vimrc:
set tw=80 (or whatever)
to manually rewrap a paragraph, gqap. (gq is rewrap and then ap is a motion, so can be replaced with, e.g. j)
or you can have this happen automatically:
set fo=tcqa (or whatever) (a is the crucial bit)
― caek, Friday, 29 July 2011 16:26 (twelve years ago) link
gq was what i was looking for, thx
― g++ (gbx), Friday, 29 July 2011 16:40 (twelve years ago) link
f/u q: how do go back to wrapping? (i'm moving between editing something for a colleague in vim and email, where the breaks are irritating to manage)
― g++ (gbx), Friday, 29 July 2011 17:10 (twelve years ago) link
n/m
― g++ (gbx), Friday, 29 July 2011 17:14 (twelve years ago) link
not that you care, but: i only just figured out answers to my hugest frustrations with vim
-- i'd paste something in and it would wrap and break words (set linebreak)-- i'd want to jump down a line of text and it would skip to the next carriage return instead of what i saw on the screen (hit 'g' before the navigational key you want to use, which will switch from actual lines to 'screen lines')
i've wasted a lot of time futzing around with 'gq' and then, when moving to a non-vim environment, having to go back manually and fix all the linebreaks that got inserted.
thx internet
― g++ (gbx), Friday, 29 July 2011 17:23 (twelve years ago) link
pro tips:
":set paste" before a paste and it will disable the rewrapping of text (I have this bound to something handy that toggles paste mode on and off)
there is a setting that makes movement keys correspond to displayed lines rather than actual lines in the file. i don't use this so i can't remember what it is, but it might suit you better.
i undo rewrapped text (i.e. put a long paragraph on a single line) by doing :set tw=100000000000 and then gqap or whatever. i am sure there must be a better way, but i do this about once every 6 months, so i haven't looked into it.
― caek, Friday, 29 July 2011 19:12 (twelve years ago) link
http://vimcasts.org/episodes/soft-wrapping-text/
command+j(et al) will move thru displayed tex
man my vimrc got ~pimped~ today (tho it's still way basic). snipmate + latex is a friggin godsend. i weep for the hours i spent diligently banging out slash commands and trying to type in texshop.
this has inspired me to look into making my own Epic templates and dot commands (Epic is the EMR used throughout the twin cities)
― g++ (gbx), Friday, 29 July 2011 22:22 (twelve years ago) link
don't forget supertab too
― caek, Friday, 29 July 2011 22:38 (twelve years ago) link
so i guess what i really want is the breakindent patch but there's no way i'm messing with that
― g++ (gbx), Friday, 29 July 2011 23:21 (twelve years ago) link
how do supertab and snipmate get along?
― g++ (gbx), Friday, 29 July 2011 23:57 (twelve years ago) link
v well. they are kind of the default second and third packages people add to a vim install these days (after pathogen, which doesn't solve a problem i have, but a lot of people seem to find useful), so they get tested together.
― caek, Saturday, 30 July 2011 02:32 (twelve years ago) link
saw really good shooting star
http://i.min.us/ilM44g.png
― caek, Thursday, 4 August 2011 05:32 (twelve years ago) link
saw the moon
http://i.min.us/ijuDle.jpeg
― caek, Friday, 5 August 2011 03:15 (twelve years ago) link
:D :D
― markers, Friday, 5 August 2011 03:16 (twelve years ago) link
nice shooting star grab!
― future events are now current events (Z S), Friday, 5 August 2011 03:20 (twelve years ago) link
saw the moonset, now i'm gonna observe some stuff
http://i.min.us/ilB6BY.jpeg
― caek, Friday, 5 August 2011 03:20 (twelve years ago) link
i'm hoping to go camping up in the mountains this weekend and get a really good look at some shooting stars
heck yes
― caek, Friday, 5 August 2011 03:25 (twelve years ago) link
i am standing right where this photo was taken
awes
― markers, Friday, 5 August 2011 03:27 (twelve years ago) link
http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap110730.html
you can see the two most prominent naked eye galaxies in the southern hemisphere here about 3/4 of the way across.
― caek, Friday, 5 August 2011 03:30 (twelve years ago) link
which is the best planet
― max, Friday, 5 August 2011 03:49 (twelve years ago) link
earth or jupiter in my opinion
― caek, Friday, 5 August 2011 03:52 (twelve years ago) link
do aliens exist
― StanM, Friday, 5 August 2011 06:19 (twelve years ago) link
yes
― caek, Friday, 5 August 2011 06:39 (twelve years ago) link
http://i.min.us/ijhUYM.jpeg
:-(
― caek, Saturday, 6 August 2011 02:29 (twelve years ago) link
caek does this truck make you feel excited. do you feel the need for 440 HP in your blood.
http://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/cryogenic-service-truck-climbs-mountain-so-te
― dayo, Monday, 5 September 2011 14:52 (twelve years ago) link
i know alma people from my old job. when i joined i just got the normal "welcome to health insurance" medical. those guys get a this really intense fitness/heart/psych thing every six months because of the conditions they work in. but they are otherwise normal nerds (with special lorries).
― caek, Monday, 5 September 2011 14:57 (twelve years ago) link
oh i thought of something while i was camping.
is it possible within the laws of physics as we understand them for a "shadow Earth" as used in various SF stories to exist? i.e. a planet of equal size and mass exactly opposite to Earth's orbit and therefore undetected cos it's always on the other side of the Sun? i figure it would've been observed somehow but is that right? and if so how do we know? sums of gravitational pull or something?
― placeholder for weak pun (Noodle Vague), Monday, 5 September 2011 14:59 (twelve years ago) link
lol were u think the shadow cabinet are from bruv
― Jolout Boy (darraghmac), Monday, 5 September 2011 15:10 (twelve years ago) link
Oxbridge
― placeholder for weak pun (Noodle Vague), Monday, 5 September 2011 15:18 (twelve years ago) link
lol they really are
i think a shadow earth would be massive enough to be detectable via its gravitational pull on other planets (incl. earth). that's how neptune (and pluto i think) were discovered.
― caek, Monday, 5 September 2011 15:55 (twelve years ago) link
shadow earth would be cool from an "heir and a spare" point of view. e.g. i broke the leg on an ikea cupboard this weekend. would be great to go to shadow earth and pick of a spare. instead i've got to drive all the way to ikea.
― caek, Monday, 5 September 2011 15:56 (twelve years ago) link
would be the wrong colour
Many worlds theory ftw from a handy spare alternate reality tho
― Jolout Boy (darraghmac), Monday, 5 September 2011 16:03 (twelve years ago) link
did anyone see this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Another_Earth
― caek, Monday, 5 September 2011 16:06 (twelve years ago) link
haven't seen that.
i understood that Neptune and Pluto were predicted before observed because of their gravitational effects, yeah. which means everybody who's ever used the "far side of the Sun" story shd have known better tbh
― placeholder for weak pun (Noodle Vague), Monday, 5 September 2011 16:17 (twelve years ago) link
i did not see it either. it won the science prize at sundance, but films that do that are all reliably terrible ime.
― caek, Monday, 5 September 2011 16:41 (twelve years ago) link
i thought it was p good although idk what kinda 'science' its supposed to be showcasing
unless you get the award just for being the type of movie nerds wld like
― Lamp, Monday, 5 September 2011 16:57 (twelve years ago) link
i think that's how the sloan works tbh
― caek, Monday, 5 September 2011 17:03 (twelve years ago) link
love this dude's accent
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cRmbwczTC6E
― caek, Friday, 7 October 2011 22:56 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.space.com/13401-cosmic-star-dust-complex-organic-compounds.html
caek, where we born from the stars?
― dayo, Friday, 28 October 2011 11:58 (twelve years ago) link
totes mcgotes. space is full of ppl.
― caek, Friday, 28 October 2011 19:15 (twelve years ago) link
elt (mentioned upthread) got funding green light couple of weeks ago
here it is with a train (both at 1:120 scale). lol.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7092/6989303730_52292642b8_b.jpg
― caek, Friday, 29 June 2012 15:00 (eleven years ago) link
the god particle
― max, Tuesday, 3 July 2012 13:10 (eleven years ago) link
ha i assumed that would be a proper hardcore acronym rather than EXTREMELY LARGE TELESCOPE
― dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 3 July 2012 13:13 (eleven years ago) link
people are excited about the higgs! although tomorrow's result is kind of an open secret like anderson cooper.
there used to be OWL http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overwhelmingly_Large_Telescope
― caek, Tuesday, 3 July 2012 13:16 (eleven years ago) link
nannte man das neue Projekt etwas selbstironisch Overwhelmingly Large Telescope (Überwältigend Großes Teleskop)
― dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 3 July 2012 13:17 (eleven years ago) link
yes they are a droll bunch
― caek, Tuesday, 3 July 2012 13:24 (eleven years ago) link
do you have a "take" on it
― max, Tuesday, 3 July 2012 13:33 (eleven years ago) link
it sounds like they are going to announce a "4-5 sigma" result (which is i guess "beyond reasonable doubt" for almost everyone except particle physicists and probably the people who do aircraft safety).
if i'm honest though, this kind of science doesn't really blow my hair back. partly that's the nature of high energy physics: you need a lot of data, and after a year you have a rough idea of where things are heading. the nature of your fuding quite rightly obliges you to release your early data, so you you release a result that is a "2-sigma" hint. and it's pretty much an open secret that a stronger statement is coming the next year (see e.g. http://www.theatlanticwire.com/global/2012/07/best-physics-gossips-you-should-be-reading/54123/). so you lose the eureka moment of "tabletop physics", which is a shame. but really that's just an issue of presentation. some people will do what you mentioned yesterday:
The moments after the CNN anchor officially came out of the closet this morning were like an "over-it" contest on Twitter — a chance to see who could be the least surprised by the news.
but that is fronting. this is a legitimately big deal: the first really significant discovery in particle physics in maybe 20 years. the last piece of the puzzle in some sense. it would have been lots more exciting if they were like, "we can't find it. we have no clue." but they had to be sure, and being sure cost $10bn and a generation of particle physicists.
― caek, Tuesday, 3 July 2012 14:00 (eleven years ago) link
good article: http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2012/may/10/crisis-big-science/?pagination=false
the og LHC
http://assets.nybooks.com/media/photo/2012/04/17/weinberg_2-051012_jpg_230x918_q85.jpg
― caek, Tuesday, 3 July 2012 14:01 (eleven years ago) link
Hey Caek!
― (✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Tuesday, 3 July 2012 14:16 (eleven years ago) link
Have you by any chance seen these Haribo Fruchtgummi Mopse?
http://www.worldofsweets.de/out/pictures/z1/Haribo-Gert-Kaefer-s-Fruchtgummi-Moepse.jpg
They have sour ones too!
http://www.worldofsweets.de/out/pictures/z1/haribo-gerd-kaefer--039--s-fruchtgummi-moepse-scharf-ingwer_z1.jpg
Apparently they are the work of this famous celebrity chef http://www.gerdkaefer.de/. I actaully ate with my parents in one of his restaurants many years ago. I believe it was this one: http://kurhaus-gastronomie.de/bistro.htm
Anyway this guy has a pug who is supposedly the most famous pug in all of Germany. His name is Sir Henry!
So, I need some of these gummis but can't get them online easily. :/ Are they readily available there?
― (✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Tuesday, 3 July 2012 14:20 (eleven years ago) link
ps - "mops" is pug in german
― (✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Tuesday, 3 July 2012 14:22 (eleven years ago) link
thanks for nybooks article link! great!
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 3 July 2012 14:24 (eleven years ago) link
ha i will have a look in the gummi section of my supermarket next time e! (there is a gummi section. it is next to the ritter sport section.)
― caek, Tuesday, 3 July 2012 14:41 (eleven years ago) link
:D
― (✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Tuesday, 3 July 2012 14:42 (eleven years ago) link
where are you going to be working now again?
― the late great, Tuesday, 3 July 2012 21:05 (eleven years ago) link
so many bores complaining about comic sans in the higgs slides
― caek, Wednesday, 4 July 2012 08:47 (eleven years ago) link
i am in munich for the next couple of years i think xp
― caek, Wednesday, 4 July 2012 08:50 (eleven years ago) link
that's a nice city, i have some cousins there. one is a foxy tv presenter, i'll send you her facebook.
― the late great, Wednesday, 4 July 2012 09:00 (eleven years ago) link
i like foxy people
― caek, Wednesday, 4 July 2012 09:01 (eleven years ago) link
ugh i hate this shit
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/523589_444526022235081_226372658_n.jpg
― caek, Wednesday, 4 July 2012 09:06 (eleven years ago) link
there was an article on cnn headlined "what you need to know about the higgs boson" and i was hoping it would just "what everyone already thought was true is true, move along"
― the late great, Wednesday, 4 July 2012 09:08 (eleven years ago) link
you would hope that people who pride themselves on knowing about science might have some understanding of the way popular journalism works but hey ho
― coopflaggypost (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 4 July 2012 09:15 (eleven years ago) link
dear christians
it is called the god particle because it is the final piece of matter required to build the altar upon which we summon mighty cthulhu
aka "the where-is-your-god-now particle"
― the late great, Wednesday, 4 July 2012 09:17 (eleven years ago) link
i feel like it's kid of a a mixture of solipsism and total fucking ignorance about everything
― caek, Wednesday, 4 July 2012 09:18 (eleven years ago) link
kid = kind
also ungratefulness re: the $10bn particle physics got from european taxpayers (although tbf most of the people posting stuff like that are dawkins-type dilletantes seeking to align themselves with "science")
― caek, Wednesday, 4 July 2012 13:19 (eleven years ago) link
yeah that's why i said "knowing about science" rather than being actually in the field or anything.
― coopflaggypost (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 4 July 2012 13:25 (eleven years ago) link
yep. that kind of person is not a minority in science, but scientists are a minority of that kind of person.
― caek, Wednesday, 4 July 2012 13:27 (eleven years ago) link
Hi dere caek, refereeing question for u -- when determining stoppage time, what factors would make a referee initially call for 5 minutes and then increase that time to over 8 minutes?
― DX Dx DX (dan m), Monday, 30 July 2012 14:55 (eleven years ago) link
stoppages within stoppage time
― Shrimpface Killah (Noodle Vague), Monday, 30 July 2012 16:16 (eleven years ago) link
Otm. If not that then was this a game with a 4th official?
― caek, Monday, 30 July 2012 18:31 (eleven years ago) link
― DX Dx DX (dan m), Monday, 30 July 2012 18:46 (eleven years ago) link
does the 4th official set a suggested minimum that the ref can over-rule? i cdn't remember
― Shrimpface Killah (Noodle Vague), Monday, 30 July 2012 18:47 (eleven years ago) link
basically shakes out like this
5 min stoppage time announced~3 minutes in, player commits second yellow card foul, is sent off, but does not leave field of play immediatelyplayer's coach protests, is also ejected & leaves slowlyonce play resumes, play continues up into 8th minute of stoppage when 10-man team scores goal, game immediately ends
― DX Dx DX (dan m), Monday, 30 July 2012 18:49 (eleven years ago) link
(and yes this means the team I support was denied a win but I am trying to understand this from an objective point of view)
time can and is added during extra time
e.g. i think there's an explicit directive to add at least 30s for ever substitution during extra time
so sounds like the ref added some time for the nonsense
i'm not actually sure if the ref can overrule the 4th off. he can certainly overrule the linesmen.
― caek, Monday, 30 July 2012 19:53 (eleven years ago) link
that's what I figured, thx!
― DX Dx DX (dan m), Monday, 30 July 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link
'ello caek. The bbc reckons (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-20249753) that 42 light-years away is "not too far away". it bloody is, isn't it?
― thomasintrouble, Thursday, 8 November 2012 11:38 (eleven years ago) link
probably wdn't get mobile reception but in galactic terms 42 light years is knack all iirc
― movember spawned a nobster (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 8 November 2012 11:39 (eleven years ago) link
we are not galactic we are humantic.
― itt: 'splaining men (ledge), Thursday, 8 November 2012 11:40 (eleven years ago) link
speak for yourself i am made of star stuff iirc
― movember spawned a nobster (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 8 November 2012 11:42 (eleven years ago) link
we should invade now while they're still in the early 1970's. hippies'll never know what hit'em.
― thomasintrouble, Thursday, 8 November 2012 11:47 (eleven years ago) link
the second nearest star to us (i.e. after the sun) is 4 ly away. Our galaxy is about 50,000 ly across. so 42 ly is "the solar neighborhood".
i guess it's like saying, compared to the entire plant earth, woking is not too far away from london. obviously if you can't move then woking is effectively very far away. in this metaphor, we are shut-ins in woking.
― caek, Thursday, 8 November 2012 12:35 (eleven years ago) link
so where is Hull then? is there a part of the galaxy that looks forlornly outwards idly waiting to be slowly engulfed?
― thomasintrouble, Friday, 9 November 2012 14:18 (eleven years ago) link
how has the world of physics reacted to
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/the-denise-milani-conspiracy-honey-trap-professor-gets-five-years-in-argentina-jail-8340525.html
― Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Monday, 26 November 2012 21:04 (eleven years ago) link
One observation: A physicist I know posted it on his Facebook not one hour ago.
― ILM Communication (seandalai), Monday, 26 November 2012 21:07 (eleven years ago) link
Professor Frampton, described by his 71-year-old ex-wife as a “naive fool”, said he had been lured into travelling to South America by criminals posing as the amply-proportioned fitness trainer...
― Aimless, Monday, 26 November 2012 21:11 (eleven years ago) link
ex-wife otm
― mh, Monday, 26 November 2012 21:20 (eleven years ago) link
Ha, yeah. It's kind of ridiculous, right. He's a particle physicist so I never met him, but I know ppl who have. Tbh it kind of surprises me that this sort of thing doesn't happen more often. Many male physicists (especially toward the maths/high energy theory end) are a little, ahem, wet behind the ears. I mean even the person who told me this story struck me as the kind if person to whom it could happen.
― caek, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 09:13 (eleven years ago) link
He sounds like he is safer in prison than in the real world.
I like that he has published papers with the prison as his affiliation: http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/2012/nov/22/paul-frampton-hit-by-56-month-drugs-sentence
― caek, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 09:18 (eleven years ago) link
hay caek is "exotic matter" in this any more than subtle handwaving? What are my chances of actually getting to alpha centauri in my lifetime? And does FTL always and irrevocably imply time travel (which is problematic obviously) or is there any kind of loophole there?
http://io9.com/5963263/how-nasa-will-build-its-very-first-warp-drive?post=54599539
― ledge, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 09:50 (eleven years ago) link
"exotic" is a term of art in particle physics, so it's a weird choice, but they don't give any indication they are actually talking about exotic matter. i think here they just mean regular mass that is converted into energy by nuclear fission or whatever, yielding e=mc2.
the point with this thing, afaict, is that it does not involve faster than light travel. imagine spacetime is a living room rug. you can't walk across the rug at FTL, but given preposterously contrived circumstances, someone else can stretch the rug in such a way just that your location changes in a way that is equivalent to moving (and perhaps a very long way very quickly).
― caek, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 12:56 (eleven years ago) link
key quote: "Mathematically, the field equations predict that this is possible, but it remains to be seen if we could ever reduce this to practice."
also i have no idea if the field equations even predict this is possible. i skipped gen rel (via not being clever enough).
― caek, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 12:57 (eleven years ago) link
the point with this thing, afaict, is that it does not involve faster than light travel.
but it still effectively means a signal could propagate faster than light. no?
― ledge, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 12:57 (eleven years ago) link
ha, i guess. god i never understood this stuff.
― caek, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 14:07 (eleven years ago) link
is anything faster than aaron lennon over five yards tho
― bill paxman (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 14:26 (eleven years ago) link
where is layman's maths-free guide to GR. anyway i guess this is mostly bullshit, no trips to stars near or far in my or maybe anyone's lifetime, sadface. what a senseless waste.
― ledge, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 14:29 (eleven years ago) link
cheer up, maybe the onset of catastrophic climate change will focus minds on ways to get out of this solar system pronto
― Shane Breen is a gigantic tool (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 14:33 (eleven years ago) link
dreaming of a railgun that can shoot us at alpha centauri
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 14:35 (eleven years ago) link
c'mon get real, even ignoring acceleration the stars are out of reach without ftl. intra solar system railgun might be a winner, first we need space elevators to circumvent enormous expense of getting into orbit only by riding giant exploding tanks of propellant.
― ledge, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 14:44 (eleven years ago) link
i'd settle for a railway that got me to galway tbph
― bill paxman (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 14:48 (eleven years ago) link
now let's be realistic
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 14:49 (eleven years ago) link
*joke about galway being behind the times like light from distant stars*
― ledge, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 14:50 (eleven years ago) link
it's not behind the times but it is beyond the pale
― bill paxman (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 14:55 (eleven years ago) link
someone else can stretch the rug in such a way just that your location changes
Mrs. Whatsit?
― hot slag (lukas), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 18:30 (eleven years ago) link
a signal could propagate faster than light. no?
my understanding is that theory allows and experiments have supported the idea that certain kinds of state information can be exchanged between atoms that are indefinitely remote from one another, and this exchange may occur more quickly than a photon could travel between the two atoms. nb: i am not a phycisist.
― Aimless, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 19:15 (eleven years ago) link
If yr talking about epr paradox/aspect experiment then yeah there is some kind of weird action at a distance, but no information is propagated, just the same random outcome occurs at the two remote locations. Like rolling two dice light years apart and they always come up the same, spooky but you can't communicate anything.
― ledge, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 22:11 (eleven years ago) link
makes me feel better to know that every time I lose at craps some space alien dooder also just like a quadrillion zeeprix a billion light years away
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 22:12 (eleven years ago) link
乒乓 quantum entangled with a space alien dooder!
― Mozzarella i Fieri (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 22:16 (eleven years ago) link
I'd do it again too
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 22:22 (eleven years ago) link
quantum entanglement is a like a special std where you both get whammies at the same time
― Sufjan Grafton, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 22:27 (eleven years ago) link
our maths are inadequate as yet
― bill paxman (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 22:44 (eleven years ago) link
I've got another space question inspired by this gif that Dayo posted:http://i.imgur.com/Z7FpC.gif
At first I thought it was wildly out of proportion because I thought the sun was waaaaay bigger than Jupiter but I internet-sleuthed and it looks like the sun's diameter is only ten times bigger than Jupiter's?So gravity's gotta be both pretty intense and delicate, huh? Like, if I were in space and I opened a bag of peas, would my gravitational pull force them to orbit me? Or do all the nuclear reactions going on in the sun make it denser than the planets in order of insane magnitudes?
― Fetchboy, Friday, 1 March 2013 18:48 (eleven years ago) link
Jupiter is way less dense than the other planets in our galaxy iirc
― :C (crüt), Friday, 1 March 2013 18:53 (eleven years ago) link
Jupiter's mass = 0.0009546 Solar mass
most of that mass concentrated at the center, which is holding all those gases in
― ☠ ☃ ☠ (mh), Friday, 1 March 2013 19:17 (eleven years ago) link
just like uranus
― 乒乓, Friday, 1 March 2013 19:17 (eleven years ago) link
― Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Friday, 1 March 2013 19:18 (eleven years ago) link
there should be more songs about gas giants
― Aimless, Friday, 1 March 2013 19:20 (eleven years ago) link
Is there any rule of thumb for figuring out what's the biggest thing I could get to orbit around me in space?
― Fetchboy, Friday, 1 March 2013 19:21 (eleven years ago) link
you mean space, far enough away from any other objects that their gravometric pull doesn't overwhelm your own, right? I am thinking that even at a far distance, the sun is going to exert a greater pull than your own mass
― ☠ ☃ ☠ (mh), Friday, 1 March 2013 19:33 (eleven years ago) link
the average density of the sun and jupiter are actually about the same, just a little be denser than water. the earth is 4ish times denser than either. that's on average. and "on average" is all that matters for gravity. the earth doesn't notice that the middle is denser than the outside. all it cares about is the average value, i.e. the total mass of the sun. (although it's true that at its centre the density of the sun is much higher than basically anywhere else in the solar system.)
so anyway, jupiter and the sun are the same density, for gravitational purposes. and you're right that you're right that jupiter is only ten times smaller than the sun. but if something is ten times smaller then, for a given density, it weighs 1000 times less. that's because mass = density x volume, and volume = size^3. indeed as crut says, jupiter is 0.00095 suns, i.e. ~ 1/1000), and the sun dominates the gravitational forces planets experience to an almost overwhelming degree. (but not completely, see, e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discovery_of_Neptune)
that animation is not to scale, no. the relative size of jupiter and the sun look about right, but all the other planets are way off (they should basically be invisible, e.g. the earth is ~1/10 the size of jupiter, i.e. 1/100 the size of the sun). also obviously the distances between the planets and the sun are wrong, e.g. the distance between the earth and the sun is 200+ times the size of the sun.
Like, if I were in space and I opened a bag of peas, would my gravitational pull force them to orbit me?
if you open them in such a way as to give them zero velocity relative to you (i.e. with a very steady hand), yes. but realistically you wouldn't have a steady enough hand, and you would impart enough energy for them to escape your orbit. assuming your arm is 1m long and you weigh 80kg, they'd need to be going at less than sqrt((2 * G * (80 kg)) / (1 m)) = 0.000231156472 mph (2 ten thousandth of a mile per hour) to be trapped in orbit around you.
― caek, Friday, 1 March 2013 19:34 (eleven years ago) link
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yeah the question is different depending on whether you're in the solar system or "deep space". in the solar system, you're basically asking, what's the biggest moon i could keep in orbit around planet fetchboy, without the sun pinching it and turning it into a planet. that would depend on how far you were from the sun, earth, etc.
in deep space, the only limit is the escape velocity: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escape_velocity. as long as your "moon" is moving slower than that away from you, it will orbit you.
there's a complication though: one body doesn't orbit another. they _both_ orbit their _shared_ centre of mass. in the case of the sun and the earth, that centre of mass is basically the centre of the sun, because the sun is so massive. it's a little bit further from the centre of the sun for the jupiter-sun system, and in fact the sun visibly wobbles in response to jupiter. observing exactly this effect in other stars is how most exoplanets get discovered (500+ of the 800+ we know about, according to http://exoplanet.eu/catalog/). the centre of mass of the earth-moon system is inside the earth, but only just.
― caek, Friday, 1 March 2013 19:45 (eleven years ago) link
that gif is blowing my mind
we're traveling in like a "solar up" direction?? where are we even going? this is madness.
― goole, Friday, 1 March 2013 19:51 (eleven years ago) link
the sun isn't moving exactly in the plane of the galaxy, but approximately so. and yeah apparently the plane of the solar system happens to be about 60° to the plane of the galaxy. who knew.
― caek, Friday, 1 March 2013 19:54 (eleven years ago) link
oh great so we're cockeyed too
― goole, Friday, 1 March 2013 19:55 (eleven years ago) link
iphone people: i recommend the app "exoplanets"
― caek, Friday, 1 March 2013 19:56 (eleven years ago) link
you can explore the MW, throw it around, pinch in out, etc.
and you can make neat graphs like size of planet against discovery year (notice we're getting good at finding smaller and smaller planets, i.e. closer and closer to earth mass)
― caek, Friday, 1 March 2013 19:57 (eleven years ago) link
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http://i.imgur.com/CXIjIEr.jpg
― 乒乓, Friday, 1 March 2013 19:58 (eleven years ago) link
Thought the Sun was moving at about the same velocity as nearby parts of the galaxy. There's nowhere to put the camera to capture this. The only way to get this effect given movement of nearby bodies would be to have the camera moving away from solar system at Ludicrous Speed, in which case the experience will be of the observer moving, not the solar system. No?
― Plasmon, Friday, 1 March 2013 20:02 (eleven years ago) link
figuring out what's going on in the solar neighbourhood is very, very tricky and it's very difficult to visualize how they do it. but they do it by observing nearby stars.
on average they're all going round the sun at about the same speed in the same direction, 200-odd km/s. there's some scatter though. some are on perfectly circular orbits in the plane of the galaxy, some wobble up and down, some are on "radial" orbits, i.e. plunging toward the middle and out the other side, and only happy to be passing through the solar neighbourhood right now.
― caek, Friday, 1 March 2013 20:09 (eleven years ago) link
the upshot of that scatter in velocity/direction is that the stars that are close to us right now, will not be our nearest neighbours forever
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e9/Near-stars-past-future-en.svg/749px-Near-stars-past-future-en.svg.png
― caek, Friday, 1 March 2013 20:11 (eleven years ago) link
Right, but those changes are glacial for any observer in a human time scale. There is literally nowhere to put a camera to visualize that gif. Even if the "camera" moved that fast away from the S.S. it wouldn't see the Sun translating so dramatically against the backdrop of near space, which is also moving at similar speeds in similar directions.
― Plasmon, Friday, 1 March 2013 20:14 (eleven years ago) link
well that gif is just showing what voyager II is beaming back .... dunno what to tell ya man
― 乒乓, Friday, 1 March 2013 20:23 (eleven years ago) link
afaict the camera is orbiting the centre of the MW faster than the sun, which is why the stars in the b/g are seen in parallax
apart from the scale issues, it looks basically plausible
― caek, Friday, 1 March 2013 20:32 (eleven years ago) link
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=C4V-ooITrws
Quite a bit clearer. In the youtube description he lists the duration of precession cycle as 25,000 years, with over 8000 cycles in one 226 million year revolution of the galactic center.
Of course if the planets complete hundreds or thousands of revolutions around the Sun while the Sun makes one cycle around the vortex, the planetary orbits themselves aren't especially helical, as was shown in the first video.
The visualization also highlights the movement of the solar system against a static haze, without showing the (I guess similarly helical?) movements of other stars nearby, which would show the galactic arm rotating more or less in unison, as is suggested by the wider views at the beginning of the new video.
― Plasmon, Saturday, 2 March 2013 16:00 (eleven years ago) link
yes the original anim exaggerates the pitch of the helices formed by the orbits of the planets too, good point
spiral arms is a complicated one
― caek, Saturday, 2 March 2013 16:20 (eleven years ago) link
good grief what a bore http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2013/03/04/vortex_motion_viral_video_showing_sun_s_motion_through_galaxy_is_wrong.html
― caek, Monday, 4 March 2013 21:18 (eleven years ago) link
dude it's important to stop the hoi polloi taking any interest in SCIENCE
― a phenomenological description of The Eagles (Noodle Vague), Monday, 4 March 2013 21:20 (eleven years ago) link
i mean you know you're in for a fun old time, and some excellent, concise writing, when you come across passages like
However, there’s a problem with it: It’s wrong. And not just superficially; it’s deeply wrong, based on a very wrong premise.
his specific valid criticisms of the animation, beyond that it is apparently accompanied by some crank's nonsense idea of the universe, and that crank doesn't know the difference between a vortex and a helix, basically boil down to the fact that the ecliptic (solar plane) is at 60° not 90° to the galactic plane.
this criticism in particular is totally unfair/wrong:
That is apparently what Sadhu is representing in his video. But that wobble does not affect the Sun at all. It’s just something the Earth does. But Sadhu adds that to the Sun’s motion around the Milky Way, which makes no sense. His video shows the Sun corkscrewing around the galaxy, sometimes closer to the galactic center and sometimes farther away over and over again. To go back to the carousel analogy, its like the horse is circling the center, moving up and down, and also left-to right. But that's not what the Sun really does. There is no left to right motion (toward and away from the galactic center multiple times per orbit). That corkscrew pattern Sadhu shows is wrong.
well, it is an it isn't. seen from above the galaxy, the sun isn't on a circular orbit. it is sometimes closer and sometimes further away. it goes on these excursions in and out at its epicyclic frequency. this is undergrad stuff. tbf it's obvious that's what not the animator has in mind with his crazy theory (he calls it a "precession", which is, at best, a pretty fundamental misunderstanding), but the to say simply and clearly that "the corkscrew pattern is wrong" is wrong.
― caek, Monday, 4 March 2013 21:35 (eleven years ago) link
Have to love when a fan of a nutty theory likes to make animations
― ☠ ☃ ☠ (mh), Monday, 4 March 2013 21:36 (eleven years ago) link
South Park for example
― a phenomenological description of The Eagles (Noodle Vague), Monday, 4 March 2013 21:38 (eleven years ago) link
― the late great, Wednesday, July 4, 2012 10:00 AM (8 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
you never her
― caek, Saturday, 9 March 2013 10:26 (eleven years ago) link
Caek
whats it all about, really
― i don't have to be fair, i'm *right* (darraghmac), Saturday, 9 March 2013 10:36 (eleven years ago) link
caek have you ever met this guy: http://www.cv.nrao.edu/~jmangum/
I work w/ him on the journal he edits & I like how he has a link on his page for "not THAT J3ff M@ngum"
― a monolithic testament to shiftlessness and lost productivity (dan m), Saturday, 9 March 2013 13:14 (eleven years ago) link
i have not met him, probably due to the weird schism between radio and optical astronomy (i am optical)
xp, i know right?
― caek, Sunday, 10 March 2013 18:31 (eleven years ago) link
http://images.gizmag.com/hero/esa-planck-cmb.jpg
this is a decayed map of the world someone found in the back of an old shed, who are they trying to fool
― Another turning point, a stork fuck in the road (ledge), Thursday, 21 March 2013 16:37 (eleven years ago) link
gah
i think a lot of people are kind of disappointed there wasn't definitive evidence of significant non-standard "anomalies" in those results, although it seems like there is probably something slightly weird going on. otherwise they've measured a bunch of numbers we already know to greater precision.
― caek, Thursday, 21 March 2013 16:44 (eleven years ago) link
some good summary coverage from one of the uk-based cosmologists working on it
http://www.andrewjaffe.net/blog/science/000553.htmlhttp://www.andrewjaffe.net/blog/news/000554.html
― caek, Friday, 22 March 2013 22:18 (eleven years ago) link
caek I just want you to know that I am going to read all of this thread (missed it somehow until now) in preparation for MCDONALD OBSERVATORY SECRETS OF THE UNIVERSE time!
― quincie, Sunday, 24 March 2013 23:29 (eleven years ago) link
cool! this is still a can do go situation!
― caek, Sunday, 24 March 2013 23:57 (eleven years ago) link
how can a person be said to exist at all, were one to use a galactic scale? How does yr answer to this question inform yr pickup technique?
― mister borges (darraghmac), Monday, 25 March 2013 00:33 (eleven years ago) link
Cos i see it having ultimate neg potential tbrfr
― mister borges (darraghmac), Monday, 25 March 2013 00:34 (eleven years ago) link
I think that might fail as a neg. True, space is mostly empty, but the earth is not. I am in torquay marks and Spencer's right now so I can say this with some certainty.
― caek, Monday, 25 March 2013 11:35 (eleven years ago) link
-_- *perspective*
― mister borges (darraghmac), Monday, 25 March 2013 12:38 (eleven years ago) link
1) Which telescope will you be using at McDonald?2) Whatcha gonna do with the telescope?3) I seem to recall reading somewhere that the color of the universe is kinda muddy olive. T/F?4) What kind of beer do you like to drink in West Texas?5) What is you favorite kind of taco?
― quincie, Monday, 1 April 2013 22:35 (eleven years ago) link
Blue taupe iirc
― mister borges (darraghmac), Monday, 1 April 2013 22:37 (eleven years ago) link
i will be on the 107" aka the harlan j smith. i will be measuring the mass of the most massive black holes (i.e. this stuff http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-20528137)
the universe is as black as midnight on a moonless night in my experience.
the west texas beer situation is improving thanks to the big bend brewing co in alpine, and i am really looking forward to drinking a vulgar amount of this on my forthcoming trup. but apparently they have struggled with licensing, and i have not had a chance to try it. so i usually drink alamo golden ale or shiner or whatever is on happy hour, i.e. bud/miller light.
i don't eat meat so my favourite taco is the fish taco. i love fish tacos!
― caek, Monday, 1 April 2013 23:35 (eleven years ago) link
In the optical telescope world, does bigger always equal "better" or do different size telescopes do different things better/worse?
― quincie, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 16:41 (eleven years ago) link
Also: what is your all-time favorite telescope?
― quincie, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 16:42 (eleven years ago) link
And: how does one go about booking time on a major telescope? Do you have to pay for it, or drink beers with the right people, or????
― quincie, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 16:43 (eleven years ago) link
yes, basically.
bigger telescopes have technical difficulties. e.g. you can't machine a single piece of glass for the mirror much bigger than about 8m, so to get above that you have to build segmented mirrors like keck in hawaii. and segmentation requires active optics http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_optics, which is complicated and therefore expensive and unreliable. and if you put exactly the same instrument configuration/optical set up on a bigger telescope as on a smaller telescope then you'll have problems with a tiny field of view (think like the zoom lens on a camera). and small field of view is generally not a good thing, especially if you are observing "extended objects", i.e. galaxies, blobby things, etc. but you would never do that. so in practice, bigger is better, cost and robustness notwithstanding.
my all time favourite telescope is the 200" hale telescope at mt palomar: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hale_telescope. it was the biggest telescope in the world for most of the 20th century. the dome is beautiful (and because of old school mount, still the biggest dome in the world, i think). if anyone is in socal ever then i highly recommend a visit. it's a great site, maybe even prettier than the mcdonald.
you get telescope time by applying in a competitive process. they put out a call for proposals every 3-6 months, you say what you want to do, how many nights you need to do it etc. and then an anonymous committee ranks the proposals and a scheduler tries to fit all the highly ranked proposals in. once you get awarded time, it's free, except you might need to pay for bed and board on site (e.g. i have to pay like 100$/night to stay in the lodge at the mcdonald). you can't really stay off site, even at a place like the mcdonald, which has towns relatively nearby.
― caek, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 22:01 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.astro.caltech.edu/palomar/images/blog/EscondidoBrochureCover.jpg
― caek, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 22:02 (eleven years ago) link
Somehow read that as "One of California's Greatest Booty and Recreation Spots"
― bananas are my preference (seandalai), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 22:33 (eleven years ago) link
hey caek gimme a holler when you're in san diego
― the late great, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 03:56 (eleven years ago) link
i thought you were in new york? but yeah, definitely!
― caek, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 09:17 (eleven years ago) link
http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/risk/
― caek, Thursday, 4 April 2013 09:34 (eleven years ago) link
I don't know if this is your thing Caek, but could you recommend any good docs about the Cambrian Extinction? I watched an old beeb one recently and thought maybe they have new data since that one.
― Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Thursday, 4 April 2013 09:55 (eleven years ago) link
I don't know anything about that stuff. It is very cool though. I do remember thinking evolution by Carl zimmer was great by that's not what you're looking for. Too general.
― caek, Thursday, 4 April 2013 12:43 (eleven years ago) link
Thanks anyway. The doc was an episode of Horizon called The Day The Earth Nearly Died (2002) and it was very interesting. Previously they thought the Permian Extinction was some extremely rapid event that took out 96% of life on the planet and in this they found new data. It was multiple events and it took hundreds of thousands of years to nearly take us all out of the game.
― Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Friday, 5 April 2013 01:13 (eleven years ago) link
imminent detection of dark matter in the news a lot at the end of last week. here's why most of those articles were nonsense. http://profmattstrassler.com/2013/04/03/ams-presents-some-first-results/
some more planck stuff. pity the people who staked their careers on non-gaussianity: http://telescoper.wordpress.com/2013/04/07/has-planck-closed-the-window-on-the-early-universe/
also max i enjoyed your article about black hole death.
― caek, Monday, 8 April 2013 05:53 (eleven years ago) link
The issue of our time
― max, Monday, 8 April 2013 10:25 (eleven years ago) link
A Good Story
― caek, Monday, 8 April 2013 10:26 (eleven years ago) link
Dear caek's Corner,
I strongly suggest that you stop everything you are doing, quit your job, pack all necessities into your car (if you have no car, insert step of *procure car*), and find a way--any way--go get your ass to wherever caek is, ever, but particularly at the McDonald Observatory in the Middle of Nowhere Texas (ostensibly Ft. Davis).
Pictures and commentary to follow.
Suffice it to say that you, YOU, need to do this.
― quincie, Tuesday, 9 April 2013 02:01 (eleven years ago) link
Wanted to belatedly thank caek for answering my rube questions. Particularly interesting was the two-bodies-orbiting-their-shared-center-of-mass. Looking forward to quincie's pics and commentary.
― Fetchboy, Thursday, 2 May 2013 18:10 (ten years ago) link
i'm selling my macbook pro! and i can't be bothered with ebay!
if you're in europe i can post it to you. if you're in london i can give it to you in person. please pass this on to anyone you know is in the market/is not a dick.
http://pentangle.net/macbookpro/
― caek, Sunday, 5 May 2013 11:46 (ten years ago) link
my internal monologue for 2013 may 14 and excellent video accompaniment for the daft punk lp:
http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~ghezgroup/gc/pictures/ncsa_3dmovie.shtml
― caek, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 14:02 (ten years ago) link
http://scienceblogs.com/universe/files/2013/01/LOLA1.jpg
Before the invention of computer flight simulators, engineers at NASA needed a way to help astronauts visualize landing on the moon.So they built LOLA, or Lunar Orbit and Landing Approach, at Langley Space Center: a system of massive glowing murals and scale model-orbs criss-crossed with ribbons of track. In total darkness, pilots would ride in carts along the tracks, poised at relevant angles from the ersatz moons, and practice translunar approach and orbit establishment in a field of simulated stars, front-projected onto screens by a four-axis “star ball” mounted over the cabin.
So they built LOLA, or Lunar Orbit and Landing Approach, at Langley Space Center: a system of massive glowing murals and scale model-orbs criss-crossed with ribbons of track. In total darkness, pilots would ride in carts along the tracks, poised at relevant angles from the ersatz moons, and practice translunar approach and orbit establishment in a field of simulated stars, front-projected onto screens by a four-axis “star ball” mounted over the cabin.
http://scienceblogs.com/universe/2013/01/22/l-o-l-a-lola/
― caek, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 21:14 (ten years ago) link
Awes
― my name is louis and i'm an acoleuthic (darraghmac), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 21:32 (ten years ago) link
Caek are you back in the States yet???
― quincie, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 21:43 (ten years ago) link
no, waiting for my visa. plan is end of june.
a good chance i will be in DC in jan btw.
― caek, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 21:45 (ten years ago) link
Well that is no help to me, as I hope to still be in Baja then! But I will definitely be back in DC by May 2014!
― quincie, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 21:46 (ten years ago) link
ok i'll check with AAS, maybe that can move their winter meeting?
― caek, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 21:52 (ten years ago) link
that = they
Yes I think that would be wise!
I hope you are planning to post on the teacher thread (on 77) when your class starts!!!
― quincie, Thursday, 23 May 2013 00:13 (ten years ago) link
ayo caek it was good meeting u and i'm sorry to perhaps seemingly ignore u when i left. let us drink again sometime
― mookieproof, Saturday, 29 June 2013 21:34 (ten years ago) link
I have a question. Will the instruments on Voyager still be capable of returning data when it breaks through the heliosphere into interstellar space? Won't it just disappear into extreme cosmic radiation and never talk again?
― Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Saturday, 29 June 2013 22:45 (ten years ago) link
caek you are a v good sport for answering all these physics questions. my roommate of the past year was always such a dick when people asked him anything but the most elementary question, would just answer "you can't understand it and will never understand properly" ... really pissed me off... think it had more to do with his own embittered relationship with physics than snobbery but still
― flopson, Sunday, 30 June 2013 16:55 (ten years ago) link
caek, I am in munich on weds for a week
where shd we eat? we eat fish, not meat
― kenjataimu (cozen), Sunday, 30 June 2013 17:29 (ten years ago) link
mookie: yes! let's drink again.
parrot: i'm not sure exactly how powerful voyager's communication systems are, but the heliosphere does not fatally hinder radiation. you can see this simply by noting that we can see stars, which proves that electromagnetic radiation from outside the solar system can get past the heliopause. of course it's going to get harder to communicate, and there must be some point where the strength of the signal from something that far away is going to fall below the noise level of detectors on earth. afaict tho the voyager team are in for the long haul.
would just answer "you can't understand it and will never understand properly" ... really pissed me off... think it had more to do with his own embittered relationship with physics than snobbery but still
the bitter lols of recognition.
― caek, Sunday, 30 June 2013 17:34 (ten years ago) link
coz: i eat fish not meat too.
the fish situation in munich is generally pretty dreadful. one notable exception is paros, a greek restaurant nr. max weber platz. they have a fish special on wednesday, or all the wine you can drink for €5 on mondays. they do the best tuna steak i've ever had. afaict they do that every day, not just wednesdays. i suggest the mixed veggie and fix starter plates for all + tuna steaks to follow + retsina. if the weather is good and you want to sit outside then you'll want a reservation. they will make you do ouzo shots if you stay till later on. the waiters tend to be obviously drunk. it's great.
there is apparently an excellent sushi place at munchner freiheit but i've never been and i know it is €€€. let me know if you want me to track down the name.
for veggie stuff, there's a surprisingly good ethiopian place called blue nile on belgradstr. there are indian restaurants too, but none of them are worth the trip for someone based in the UK imo.
it's crazy i never made it to this place, because it's supposed to be excellent too: http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUserReviews-g187309-d718281-r134252669-Prinz_Myshkin-Munich_Bavaria.html.
just to say you've had it, if you find yourself in a beer hall or bavarian place, you should order käsespätzle, which is kind of like german macarroni cheese. you'll think the portion is too small, and then you'll have your first mouthful. if you finish it then watch out for the symptoms of heart failure.
― caek, Sunday, 30 June 2013 17:42 (ten years ago) link
woof, thanks caek
― kenjataimu (cozen), Sunday, 30 June 2013 17:59 (ten years ago) link
I am now half man, half beer
― auscozeichnet (cozen), Wednesday, 10 July 2013 21:17 (ten years ago) link
achievement unlocked
― caek, Wednesday, 10 July 2013 21:19 (ten years ago) link
caek do u know this guy https://twitter.com/chrislintott
― Just Elevate... And Decide In The Air -- Above the Rim (dan m), Wednesday, 10 July 2013 21:29 (ten years ago) link
― caek, Wednesday, 10 July 2013 21:29 (ten years ago) link
Nice guy, met him at a soccer game in Chicago and then published some of his work in the PASP!
― Just Elevate... And Decide In The Air -- Above the Rim (dan m), Wednesday, 10 July 2013 21:42 (ten years ago) link
my favourite munich beers were the hacker-pschorr helles & the paulaner nockherberger brau, just fyi
can see how munich wd be a nice place to live but not sure I'd recommend it for tourism
― auscozeichnet (cozen), Wednesday, 10 July 2013 21:45 (ten years ago) link
yeah he's a good guy xp
"nice" is a good word to describe munich. very comfortable, clean, etc. bit boring. opposite of new york.
not very old as a town, so not much history other than, well, the obvious.
did you manage to get out into the mountains? that's the USP really.
― caek, Wednesday, 10 July 2013 21:52 (ten years ago) link
nah, we have family there so maybe next time if we go back for oktober-/stark-fests
yeah, low crime, cleanliness, good public transport, nice climate, dece cycling infrastructure, close proximity to countryside etc. very livable
― auscozeichnet (cozen), Wednesday, 10 July 2013 21:56 (ten years ago) link
#based at Oxford
― max, Wednesday, 10 July 2013 23:13 (ten years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/yQu1Hob.jpg
― 乒乓, Thursday, 11 July 2013 00:50 (ten years ago) link
happy birthday caek
― mookieproof, Thursday, 1 August 2013 15:13 (ten years ago) link
yeah! for my birthday i got a hangover!
― caek, Thursday, 1 August 2013 15:34 (ten years ago) link
my friend who is a film director was arrested and spent the night in the cells at sevenoaks police station for shushing two teenagers rather vehemently (no joke).
― caek, Saturday, 27 December 2008 16:49 (4 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― The concept of making the Zuiderzee docile (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Friday, 9 August 2013 02:29 (ten years ago) link
not a proper caek's corner subject but anyway, i am wondering how and why that happened
― The concept of making the Zuiderzee docile (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Friday, 9 August 2013 02:31 (ten years ago) link
*so* improper
― mookieproof, Friday, 9 August 2013 02:46 (ten years ago) link
ha! he actually told this story again the other day when we were talking about visas so it is reasonably fresh in my mind. it was something like:
they were maybe 14. two of them. he asked them to stop talking, which made them get louder, and then start directing comments at him and his gf rather than the movie/their phones. there was a physical confrontation (no punches or anything) and the kids left. at the end of the film, the police were waiting with the kids, who had called one of their dads, and were now claiming assault. the dad apparently looked like a cagefighter with neck tattoos, etc. some of the police were privately like "this is ridiculous", but he ended up spending the night in the cells waiting for a lawyer (i think?). in the end they persuaded him to take a caution, which he later came to regret because he applied for a green card before it was expunged from his record, as he had to declare it/explain it several times to consular officials.
so "shushing rather vehemently" was what he actually did, but presumably not the wording on the caution.
― caek, Friday, 9 August 2013 02:53 (ten years ago) link
here, read about what it's like to nearly drown in zero-gravity
http://blogs.esa.int/luca-parmitano/2013/08/20/eva-23-exploring-the-frontier/
messed up!
― caek, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 16:45 (ten years ago) link
like srsly...
The water has also almost completely covered the front of my visor, sticking to it and obscuring my vision. I realise that to get over one of the antennae on my route I will have to move my body into a vertical position, also in order for my safety cable to rewind normally. At that moment, as I turn ‘upside-down’, two things happen: the Sun sets, and my ability to see – already compromised by the water – completely vanishes, making my eyes useless; but worse than that, the water covers my nose – a really awful sensation that I make worse by my vain attempts to move the water by shaking my head. By now, the upper part of the helmet is full of water and I can’t even be sure that the next time I breathe I will fill my lungs with air and not liquid.
― caek, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 16:51 (ten years ago) link
Jesus.
― Fetchboy, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 18:11 (ten years ago) link
Have they determined what caused it yet?
― nickn, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 19:00 (ten years ago) link
not afaik
― caek, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 19:20 (ten years ago) link
watch the first (i think?) nasa launch from virginia, which will be visible from most of the north east!
http://solarsystem.nasa.gov/scitech/display.cfm?ST_ID=2591
http://solarsystem.nasa.gov/images/Empire_State_Building_720.jpg
http://solarsystem.nasa.gov/images/LADEE_Elevation_720.jpg
― caek, Saturday, 24 August 2013 14:41 (ten years ago) link
Launch Window: 6 September 2013 from 11:27 - 11:31 PM EDT.
― caek, Saturday, 24 August 2013 14:42 (ten years ago) link
the first pic vaguely resembles one of those 9/11 trufax diagrams
― There are a lot of subjective opinions (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Saturday, 24 August 2013 14:46 (ten years ago) link
don't forget the rocket tomorrow, noreasteners
― caek, Thursday, 5 September 2013 16:50 (ten years ago) link
Yes!
― She makes flapjack (doo dah), Thursday, 5 September 2013 20:48 (ten years ago) link
did you see this?
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/interactive/2013/oct/11/dominic-cummings-michael-gove-thoughts-education-pdf
quotes displaying the usual right-wing educationalist tropes reported elsewhere
he likes science and technocracy
the introduction sets out his ever so slightly ambitious idea for the uk's post-imperial usp to be the #1 scientific country in the world, quoting all sorts of estimable people in support of his idea for a 'crude' generalist education with an emphasis on complex systems
then he starts ragging on the poor standard of maths and scientific education here
i) is he more than a crank and ii) do we need to have more people in public/corporate life with a higher mathematical education
― fake irish times letters mac d (nakhchivan), Saturday, 12 October 2013 01:53 (ten years ago) link
i only read the summary, but
i) he seems like more than a crank, although this also seems like an unusually febrile and utopian document, even for a spad.
ii) "need" is perhaps a strong word, but it certainly wouldn't hurt in public/corporate life. clearly, trivially, an MP or a civil servant should understand statistics better than it seems most currently do. that is the reason that institutions like my current one, which aspire to produce leaders and empire builders absolutely should be trying to offer an education in, most epsecially, statistsics/probability/quantitative reasoning, etc. designing the course(s) is hard, but actually implementing them in a liberal arts system like the US is relatively straightforward. with the hyperspecialization in the UK, where the high flyers essentially declare their major at 15/16, and drop all other courses, it's less clear. i can't imagine the politics that would be involved in trying to make "physics for future presidents" a compulsory course somewhere like oxford. (he actually mentions that course in the summary, by the way, which is kind of impressive. based solely on watching a few lectures on youtube, it's a good course.)
there is a tendency though to take this further and to say things like "the entire population should know what a normal distribution is, and if you don't then you're not equipped to vote", etc., which i reject. there's not much you can say to people who say "i never used algebra since i left school". they're right. and clearly a lot of people find maths and science hard/incomprehensible. not clear to me that we're doing them a service by obligating its study at an advanced level. and even assuming his ideas could be implemented, a country where everything is "evidence-based" sounds terribly bloodless and dull.
also this is an absolutely booming article:
http://spectrum.ieee.org/at-work/education/the-stem-crisis-is-a-myth
there is absolutely no shortage in technically qualified graduates in any developed country. not even close. on the whole, business leaders are acting out of self-interest and a desire to depress wages when they call for government to encourage/oblige people to do maths or science at university.
― caek, Sunday, 13 October 2013 16:37 (ten years ago) link
yeah i'd agree with most of that
as well as this quixotic idea for a crude synoptic education he seems to want to cull the top 2% by iq at a fairly young age and give them an intensive education with a heavy scientific emphasis because we need to solve global warming and nuclear fusion etc
i think there is something like this in israel already
― Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 13:38 (ten years ago) link
lol good plan
― max, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 13:50 (ten years ago) link
max you should read the report
there is some content to be mined about how genetic testing will allow us to create specialist computerized education for the slow kids, also a lot of quotes by john von neumann, a hat tip to sokal
maybe a bit niche i suppose
― Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 13:52 (ten years ago) link
i agree with caek
― max, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 13:55 (ten years ago) link
I most definitely agree with caek
and yeah, the idea that we need to aggressively recruit scientists from abroad in the US is definitely linked to depressed wages
I know that a friend who is a lab scientist has had issues with assistants who are from abroad and have science degrees (typically not graduate degrees, though) but have no lab experience and are actually not so great at lab work. They are decent candidates for the job on paper, but really, someone with an associate degree or even vocational training geared toward lab experimentation would probably be better.
Then again, she might just have bad luck and keep getting the assistants who just don't understand that you have to balance the damn centrifuge before turning it on.
― beautifully, unapologetically plastic (mh), Tuesday, 15 October 2013 14:11 (ten years ago) link
nah i'm not talking about international recruitment
get rid of all borders
― caek, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 15:17 (ten years ago) link
― beautifully, unapologetically plastic (mh), Tuesday, 15 October 2013 15:20 (ten years ago) link
you would say that, you scab
― beautifully, unapologetically plastic (mh), Tuesday, 15 October 2013 15:21 (ten years ago) link
How is your teaching going, caek? Do you generally like your students or wish them to hell? What about your fellow faculty? Administrators?
― quincie, Sunday, 20 October 2013 14:45 (ten years ago) link
i'm missing research more than i expected, and i am continually staggered by the amount of paperwork, government involvement, financial complexity and bureaucracy at private universities in the US compared to public universities in europe. (seriously, lol at any american, politician or otherwise, who cites european governance as some kind of sclerotic basket case.)
but basically on the day to day, i love it!
any more and we'd have to move this thread to 77.
― caek, Sunday, 20 October 2013 17:02 (ten years ago) link
http://cdn.static-economist.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/original-size/images/print-edition/20131019_FBC916.png
http://www.economist.com/news/briefing/21588057-scientists-think-science-self-correcting-alarming-degree-it-not-trouble
v good article
― caek, Wednesday, 23 October 2013 17:43 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0qjK3TWZE8
i love this video!
― caek, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 20:27 (ten years ago) link
http://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/mar/14/gravitational-waves-big-bang-universe-bicep
In about 50 minutes?
― StanM, Monday, 17 March 2014 15:12 (ten years ago) link
i know right?
― caek, Monday, 17 March 2014 17:57 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlfIVEy_YOA
― caek, Monday, 17 March 2014 17:58 (ten years ago) link
i am in a weird-ass software dev workshop and it is passing me by
― caek, Monday, 17 March 2014 18:00 (ten years ago) link
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_CezSYzAS5Ms/TIGsRHpnESI/AAAAAAAACMM/aRj7yQcEyRU/s400/DSC09423.jpg
...wait for it...
― Aimless, Monday, 17 March 2014 18:01 (ten years ago) link
my buddy was on the UK experiment that would have gotten this discovery first if the uk govt had not defunded it in order to save £2m
― caek, Monday, 17 March 2014 18:03 (ten years ago) link
bg's explanation is legit and clear and short
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=843023029056612&set=a.191237650901823.54357.178097115549210&type=1&stream_ref=10
the cosmology big guns on inspect the results on FB
https://www.facebook.com/groups/574544055974988/
― caek, Thursday, 20 March 2014 19:20 (ten years ago) link
motherfucker u been holding out on us
― dn/ac (darraghmac), Friday, 30 May 2014 11:39 (nine years ago) link
hi
― caek, Friday, 30 May 2014 13:03 (nine years ago) link
teleportation is the headline
but rly is this Dutch thing gonna be abt information processing and transmission, sounds huge
― dn/ac (darraghmac), Friday, 30 May 2014 13:11 (nine years ago) link
link?
― caek, Friday, 30 May 2014 13:46 (nine years ago) link
http://www.irishtimes.com/business/sectors/technology/beam-me-up-scientists-say-human-teleportation-is-possible-1.1815010
― dn/ac (darraghmac), Friday, 30 May 2014 13:52 (nine years ago) link
hmm. odd article. fairly well understood theoretically, looks like a valuable but incremental practical advance.
― caek, Friday, 30 May 2014 14:06 (nine years ago) link
that's just the spin put on it
― dn/ac (darraghmac), Friday, 30 May 2014 14:12 (nine years ago) link
Would be interested if you consider this credible, a new model of the Thea collision that incorporates a previous smaller moon into the mix.http://nautil.us/issue/13/symmetry/when-the-earth-had-two-moons
― xelab, Friday, 30 May 2014 15:15 (nine years ago) link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leviathan_of_Parsonstown
i was here today it looks like this '_'
― dn/ac (darraghmac), Monday, 2 June 2014 21:29 (nine years ago) link
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152245376168772&l=e2f516ca33
posting from fb so im assuming that wont work but anyway
― dn/ac (darraghmac), Monday, 2 June 2014 21:30 (nine years ago) link
― dn/ac (darraghmac), Monday, 2 June 2014 21:31 (nine years ago) link
i kind of struggled to get through that moon article. it is not crazy but my undersrtanding (not a solar system guy) is that there is a less crazy idea that is the "consensus".
― caek, Tuesday, 3 June 2014 00:51 (nine years ago) link
Nautilus seem to have a knack of making ropey premises seem credible, starting to think that is their MO.
― xelab, Tuesday, 3 June 2014 01:24 (nine years ago) link
not to get all degrasse tyson on your thread but
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn25723-massive-ocean-discovered-towards-earths-core.html
plants, man! crazy stuff
― goole, Friday, 13 June 2014 20:02 (nine years ago) link
planEts, sry
woah
― mattresslessness, Friday, 13 June 2014 20:18 (nine years ago) link
"We should be grateful for this deep reservoir," says Jacobsen. "If it wasn't there, it would be on the surface of the Earth, and mountain tops would be the only land poking out."
― xelab, Friday, 13 June 2014 21:12 (nine years ago) link
It is a headfuck thinking about where all the water comes from, it seems like there is too much to have been delivered by comets alone.
― xelab, Friday, 13 June 2014 21:16 (nine years ago) link
oh some crazy moon has an ocean under its surface, wait so does our planet.
― mattresslessness, Friday, 13 June 2014 21:20 (nine years ago) link
i was not aware of that! that is cool. the NS article is a bit casual about the difference between "evidence for" and "consistent with", but otherwise seems legit.
― caek, Saturday, 14 June 2014 17:44 (nine years ago) link
is it possible that the molecules in a liquid can remain static
― Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln (nakhchivan), Monday, 30 June 2014 21:57 (nine years ago) link
like if u had liquid in a container with no gravity acting on it and heat/pressure was consistent would it still be moving
― Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln (nakhchivan), Monday, 30 June 2014 21:58 (nine years ago) link
no the molecules must be moving (goes for solids and gases too)
that's the definition of non-zero temperature
they stop moving by definition at absolute zero, but absolute zero is a theoretical limit and cannot be reached by a liquid
― caek, Monday, 30 June 2014 22:05 (nine years ago) link
good episode http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01r113g
thank you for the martin rees recommendation in some other thread, been enjoying "our cosmic habitat".
― mattresslessness, Monday, 30 June 2014 22:07 (nine years ago) link
it is a great "i want to read one book, 200 pages please" recommendation
― caek, Monday, 30 June 2014 22:08 (nine years ago) link
martin rees's dad was our family GP when I was a kid -- he looked like the mekon, except tall
― mark s, Monday, 30 June 2014 22:12 (nine years ago) link
sounds like martin rees but tall
― caek, Monday, 30 June 2014 22:13 (nine years ago) link
come to think of it I was quite small so possibly not that tall
― mark s, Monday, 30 June 2014 22:15 (nine years ago) link
so the difference is that solids will vilbrate but the movement of molecules is constrained within that, like a lattice structure or whatever, so they can only move to a certain extent? whereas in a liquid the molecules will move around independently, interchange positions, etc?
― Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln (nakhchivan), Monday, 30 June 2014 22:15 (nine years ago) link
yeah in a solid things are constrained, but still jiggling
in a liquid (absent gravity, boundaries of container, etc.) things can go wherever
― caek, Monday, 30 June 2014 22:16 (nine years ago) link
thank you that is exactly what i wanted to know
this was inspired by imagining the molecules moving around in an inert, cellared bottle of wine
(im drinking wine rn)
― Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln (nakhchivan), Monday, 30 June 2014 22:19 (nine years ago) link
― caek, Monday, 30 June 2014 22:25 (nine years ago) link
caek i read the other day that absolute zero is no longer regarded as the point at which atoms cease to move but at which they attain the lowest possible (theoretical) energy state, is this right y/n?
― clockpuncher (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 1 July 2014 06:21 (nine years ago) link
isn't that an intersection
― do u like green ez & jam (darraghmac), Tuesday, 1 July 2014 07:20 (nine years ago) link
anyways idk re particle motion but absolute zero occurs on the saula rd around mid November,normally when the taxi has gone home and you've lost yr jacket
― do u like green ez & jam (darraghmac), Tuesday, 1 July 2014 07:21 (nine years ago) link
not sure exactly what your article was talking about NV but...
yeah 'cease to move' is the classical description of what goes on at absolute zero
in quantum mechanics it's not that simple because they're delocalized (i.e. their location is fuzzy via the uncertainty principle)
― caek, Tuesday, 1 July 2014 16:22 (nine years ago) link
http://static01.nyt.com/images/2014/08/06/science/comet-gif-67P/comet-gif-67P-articleLarge.gif
― Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln (nakhchivan), Thursday, 7 August 2014 04:08 (nine years ago) link
― caek, Saturday, 5 December 2009 22:28 (4 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
fave ilx post, I think
― is this empty sanitism (darraghmac), Thursday, 7 August 2014 08:39 (nine years ago) link
fave ilx thread title, sometimes
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 7 August 2014 16:25 (nine years ago) link
it's a good jingle
― mattresslessness, Thursday, 7 August 2014 16:33 (nine years ago) link
http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/1408/comet_on_3_august_2014.jpg
― caek, Friday, 8 August 2014 11:47 (nine years ago) link
s/t for this thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGPhUr-T6UM
― ♪♫ teenage wasteman ♪♫ (goole), Friday, 8 August 2014 17:15 (nine years ago) link
I am disappointed in the appearance of that comet tbqh
― lag∞n, Friday, 8 August 2014 17:28 (nine years ago) link
were they called the snorkels, that kids cartoon, calypso music intro, the snorkels?
― is this empty sanitism (darraghmac), Friday, 8 August 2014 17:59 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4ALjDSsMd4
― The aim of Rooney is spot correct (Daphnis Celesta), Friday, 8 August 2014 18:03 (nine years ago) link
man i used to watch the hell out of that show it was not too good
― lag∞n, Friday, 8 August 2014 18:17 (nine years ago) link
Their Gargamel was The Sand Witch. Great stuff.
― andrew m., Friday, 8 August 2014 18:24 (nine years ago) link
Who's your Gargamel, caek?
― pplains, Friday, 8 August 2014 21:05 (nine years ago) link
c++
― caek, Tuesday, 12 August 2014 00:03 (nine years ago) link
http://dhavalgada.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/bjarne.png
― Peeking at Peak Petty (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 12 August 2014 02:18 (nine years ago) link
― caek, Tuesday, 12 August 2014 02:27 (nine years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BvVvgzYIIAAXwui.jpg:large
https://twitter.com/quark1972/status/501429546101784576/photo/1
― caek, Friday, 22 August 2014 20:43 (nine years ago) link
wow i hope everyone is okay
― lag∞n, Friday, 22 August 2014 20:47 (nine years ago) link
would that be as big as the one that finished off the dinosaurs?
― autumn reckoning faction (xelab), Friday, 22 August 2014 20:54 (nine years ago) link
about the same size
― caek, Friday, 22 August 2014 21:40 (nine years ago) link
the real mystery is why they were all standing in the same spot
― Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 22 August 2014 22:47 (nine years ago) link
they was all in Noah's Ark iirc
― Daphnis Celesta, Sunday, 24 August 2014 09:55 (nine years ago) link
Noah's arc of descent morelike
― nakh is the wintour of our diss content (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 August 2014 10:33 (nine years ago) link
http://secondlanguage.blogspot.com/2014/08/academic-virtues.html
i love this post with the fire of one thousand suns
― caek, Monday, 25 August 2014 14:41 (nine years ago) link
I'm such a terrible citizen, I would never have guessed that landing an unmanned satellite thingy on a comet was...a thing? I mean we landed on the moon. A comet is a challenge?? This is a little disingenuous and I'm watching a news spot about it now.
― Orson Wellies (in orbit), Thursday, 13 November 2014 15:07 (nine years ago) link
It took 10 years?? What have scientists been doing all this time?
http://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/avZGG4q_460sa_v1.gif --caek
― lag∞n, Thursday, 13 November 2014 15:23 (nine years ago) link
"We" didn't land on the moon, the US government did, which has trouble starting a website now.
― things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 November 2014 15:35 (nine years ago) link
uh i dont see any mention of the obummer or shrillary in there ur slippin m8
― lag∞n, Thursday, 13 November 2014 15:37 (nine years ago) link
insignificant puppets both
anyhow i thought comets were all flamey; just when ppl are watching, i guess
― things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 November 2014 15:38 (nine years ago) link
I sorta admire the dig at "has trouble starting a website now" if you're referring to healthcare.gov's failures to launch during a government shutdown over a year ago.
― pplains, Thursday, 13 November 2014 15:42 (nine years ago) link
And I don't know what happened there, but it wasn't me.
http://i.imgur.com/ONTDWjS.png
― pplains, Thursday, 13 November 2014 15:43 (nine years ago) link
landing on comets is hard because they are small and move on weird orbits
them being small is a problem for two reasons (1) small target! (2) low gravity which means very little room for error.
like they did as good a job as they could on this one, and it *still* bounced up ~1km
it's a big deal scientifically because planets are made out of comets so we learn about how planetary systems formed, how earth formed, how earth got its atmosphere, etc., etc.
― caek, Thursday, 13 November 2014 16:22 (nine years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B2P1UPJCMAAVpBX.png
https://twitter.com/roseveleth/status/532538957490561024
― caek, Thursday, 13 November 2014 16:23 (nine years ago) link
lol europe, cool eyewear bro
― caek, Thursday, 13 November 2014 16:24 (nine years ago) link
http://smallpondscience.com/2014/11/12/new-requirement-for-scientists-you-cannot-be-a-sexist-pigdog/
― Orson Wellies (in orbit), Thursday, 13 November 2014 16:24 (nine years ago) link
one of the things i find most moving about space exploration is that you literally can't do it on your own. it requires a team.
and then you get dudes like that.
― caek, Thursday, 13 November 2014 16:25 (nine years ago) link
xxp Thanks! That all makes sense. I guess it's more that if you had asked me before yesterday, Have we ever landed anything on a comet, I probably would have been like, Idk, surely we must have by now?
Anyway. Comets!
― Orson Wellies (in orbit), Thursday, 13 November 2014 16:26 (nine years ago) link
previously we had smashed like a ton of copper into a comet for the lols, but that was recent
― caek, Thursday, 13 November 2014 16:27 (nine years ago) link
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Impact_(spacecraft)
the guy fieri of science xposts
― bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 13 November 2014 16:27 (nine years ago) link
feel like the fact that europe gently landed a spacecraft on a comet, while america fired a lump of metal into a comet and named the mission after a movie is a metaphor for something
― caek, Thursday, 13 November 2014 16:30 (nine years ago) link
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/99/ITS_Impact.gif🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
― caek, Thursday, 13 November 2014 16:42 (nine years ago) link
first bounce took 2 hours, eh
― things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 November 2014 16:52 (nine years ago) link
planets are made out of comets
i need to sit down
― goole, Thursday, 13 November 2014 16:55 (nine years ago) link
Like a stolen checkbook.
― pplains, Thursday, 13 November 2014 16:57 (nine years ago) link
Have they gendered it yet? http://www.clickhole.com/blogpost/might-not-be-politically-correct-enough-you-overly-1411
― ljubljana, Thursday, 13 November 2014 16:59 (nine years ago) link
I want to call it dottie
― $0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 13 November 2014 17:01 (nine years ago) link
― goole, Thursday, November 13, 2014 11:55 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
electricity comes from other planets
― a total laugh package (s.clover), Thursday, 13 November 2014 17:02 (nine years ago) link
Comet 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko.
Yeah, I guess "Halley" was taken, after all.
― pplains, Thursday, 13 November 2014 17:03 (nine years ago) link
― caek, Thursday, November 13, 2014 11:25 AM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
feel like this is generally interesting as far as technology/knowledge, like its unfathomable that someone could be smart enough to figure out how to send a lil dude through space for ten years and land on this guy so far away, but really no one is that smart
― lag∞n, Thursday, 13 November 2014 17:05 (nine years ago) link
― goole, Thursday, November 13, 2014 11:55 AM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
jesus was an alien
― lag∞n, Thursday, 13 November 2014 17:06 (nine years ago) link
Planets are made out of comets and comets are made out of stars
― caek, Thursday, 13 November 2014 17:06 (nine years ago) link
Yeah I mean it's kind of a trivial statement that one person can't physically build a space mission, like one person can't build a cathedral.
But yeah more interesting is the fact that one person cannot conceive a space mission or hold it in their head.
Systems thinking
― caek, Thursday, 13 November 2014 17:08 (nine years ago) link
Jesus was an alien though it's true
― caek, Thursday, 13 November 2014 17:09 (nine years ago) link
only 90s kids will understand
― lag∞n, Thursday, 13 November 2014 17:13 (nine years ago) link
they are all made of stars
― things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 November 2014 17:22 (nine years ago) link
humans evolved from fungus spores that floated here through space
― lag∞n, Thursday, 13 November 2014 17:23 (nine years ago) link
accidentally logged into yr fb account btw sry
http://i.imgur.com/0Lty2Aj.png
― lag∞n, Thursday, 13 November 2014 17:50 (nine years ago) link
Lol
― caek, Thursday, 13 November 2014 18:00 (nine years ago) link
― caek, Thursday, November 13, 2014 12:08 PM (51 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
will never be able to hear this phrase without thinking about liverpool tickets fiasco
― max, Thursday, 13 November 2014 18:08 (nine years ago) link
are you LISTENING
― goole, Thursday, 13 November 2014 18:23 (nine years ago) link
me too, that fiasco tainted my enjoyment of yesterday definitely
― caek, Thursday, 13 November 2014 18:42 (nine years ago) link
here is some good SYSTEMS THINKING
http://i.imgur.com/xfGY0Fb.jpg
― caek, Thursday, 13 November 2014 18:43 (nine years ago) link
what was the ticket fiasco
― lag∞n, Thursday, 13 November 2014 18:43 (nine years ago) link
Liverpool Tickets Fiasco
― caek, Thursday, 13 November 2014 18:48 (nine years ago) link
oh man joe you are in for a classic incomprehensible british humor/dj martian clowning/ronan and gareth at their finest treat
― max, Thursday, 13 November 2014 18:48 (nine years ago) link
What a mess !A comet is hard to land on !
Systems Thinking can solve this problem:
analyse the problem then find solutions in a holistic manner
― caek, Thursday, 13 November 2014 18:49 (nine years ago) link
thick bastard !
alrighty will give it a lookyloo m8s
― lag∞n, Thursday, 13 November 2014 18:49 (nine years ago) link
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systems_thinking ha it's actually a term of art, not a djm original?
― caek, Thursday, 13 November 2014 18:50 (nine years ago) link
Yes! It's a big social engineering/human behavior thing!
― Orson Wellies (in orbit), Thursday, 13 November 2014 19:00 (nine years ago) link
― caek, Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:48 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― max, Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:48 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lmaooo this really lived up to the hype cheers
― lag∞n, Thursday, 13 November 2014 19:00 (nine years ago) link
systems thinking is basically like when you call comcast and they tell you to unplug the modem, wait 30 seconds, then plug it back in
― ya'll are the ones who don't know things (Karl Malone), Thursday, 13 November 2014 19:00 (nine years ago) link
SVEN and TORD unaware of SYSTEMS GOTHWAVE/IDM DEVELOPMENTS. still playing KAISER CHIEFS in DRESSING ROOM... KRAUTS AND SPICS make us LAUGHING STOCK. Barwick needs to act NOW. VINI REILLY must be installed as ROBOT PRIME MINISTER― charltonlido (gareth), Tuesday, May 9, 2006 3:09 PM (8 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― lag∞n, Thursday, 13 November 2014 19:03 (nine years ago) link
\(O_O)/
― lag∞n, Thursday, 13 November 2014 19:04 (nine years ago) link
caek i enjoyed your pretty diagram thing there. are we still in contact with any of those fellows heading out into interstellar space? i do not know how anything works.
― Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 13 November 2014 19:15 (nine years ago) link
caek did you like TARS or CASE more
― max, Thursday, 13 November 2014 19:25 (nine years ago) link
i couldn't tell them apart?
― caek, Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:37 (nine years ago) link
xxp plenty
new horizons is going strong: reaches pluto next year, first time we've gone there, that is going to be a big deal
― caek, Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:39 (nine years ago) link
opportuntity has been tooling around on mars for for 10+ years (which is amazing because it was supposed to work for 90 days)
― caek, Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:40 (nine years ago) link
also voyager 1 which was discovered in the first star trek movie is still going after 40 years
― caek, Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:41 (nine years ago) link
v cool, ty
― Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:46 (nine years ago) link
― Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, November 13, 2014 2:15 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark
Think at least one of these fellows recently did a flyby of Uranus
― 龜, Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:47 (nine years ago) link
i guess that explains the draft *lights exploding cigar*
― Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:51 (nine years ago) link
― caek, Thursday, November 13, 2014 3:39 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
w/e call me back when pluto clears its zone
― lag∞n, Thursday, 13 November 2014 20:53 (nine years ago) link
good a place as any to say that jose canseco is losing his mind about the comets on twitter and y'all should check it out
― goole, Thursday, 13 November 2014 21:57 (nine years ago) link
he shot his finger off w a gun the other day
― lag∞n, Thursday, 13 November 2014 22:06 (nine years ago) link
Jose Canseco @JoseCanseco · 3h 3 hours agoComets are faster than anything we could ever build and have their own power solving are two problems
yessss
― lag∞n, Thursday, 13 November 2014 22:07 (nine years ago) link
former slugger, finger-shooter-offer, comet surfer
― things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 November 2014 22:07 (nine years ago) link
How much is even in the budget for development of space lassos and comet harnesses? Probably mere millions when it should be billions. Obama has fucked us all again.
― Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 13 November 2014 22:34 (nine years ago) link
of all the things to have a Twitter meltdown over, this one's relatively noble
― legit new threat wrt to a norman invasion (seandalai), Thursday, 13 November 2014 22:35 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/cF9fmG2.jpg
― pplains, Thursday, 13 November 2014 22:37 (nine years ago) link
Unrelated, but I had always thought there was something just a little ~ off ~ about Los Angeles' bland skyline and just recently learned that all the skyscrapers were mandated to be flat on top to make room for the helipads. That's why there are no Chrysler or TransAmerican Buildings in L.A. Never knew that.
― pplains, Thursday, 13 November 2014 22:39 (nine years ago) link
Never noticed that huge comet in the background either. Maybe I saw it on that Bob Seger cover, I'll have to go look.
― pplains, Thursday, 13 November 2014 22:40 (nine years ago) link
The LA skyscraper thing started in the mid 70s and was just repealed this year, I think.
― nickn, Thursday, 13 November 2014 23:35 (nine years ago) link
i have a friend who works for the ESA and via his Facebook posts they seem like pretty chill peeps irl
― Stim McRaw (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 November 2014 00:46 (nine years ago) link
good thread
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 14 November 2014 14:55 (nine years ago) link
I know they have actual orbits, but I always think of comets as random junk that's just flying through space
― jenny holzer, ilxor (mh), Friday, 14 November 2014 15:18 (nine years ago) link
theyre actually sentient mushrooms so try to be more considerate next time
― lag∞n, Friday, 14 November 2014 15:19 (nine years ago) link
http://static01.nyt.com/images/2014/12/02/world/BIGBANG/BIGBANG-master675.jpg
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/02/world/new-images-refine-view-of-infant-universe.html
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 10 December 2014 12:43 (nine years ago) link
my kid could do that
― goole, Wednesday, 10 December 2014 17:42 (nine years ago) link
fake
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 10 December 2014 17:55 (nine years ago) link
T&O
― 龜, Wednesday, 10 December 2014 17:57 (nine years ago) link
wtf is this serial thing? is it middle brow?
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 11 December 2014 22:23 (nine years ago) link
it is CSI: This American Life
― $0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 11 December 2014 22:49 (nine years ago) link
so its brow is set at the level of TAL
― $0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 11 December 2014 22:52 (nine years ago) link
wake tf up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIRjxQIYOj4
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 22:41 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/Vp789.jpg
― goole, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 22:51 (nine years ago) link
think i sat next to that guy on a flight once?
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 22:54 (nine years ago) link
if he's so wrong, why don't you guys do a line-by-line rebuttal of what he said? and if you don't address every single thing he said, then that becomes the new dominant theory
#science
― ♪♫_\o/_♫♪ (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 22:59 (nine years ago) link
scott stapp?
― example (crüt), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 23:04 (nine years ago) link
"Read a book, Seth!"
― nickn, Thursday, 15 January 2015 04:22 (nine years ago) link
thanks to the person who ilx messaged me today!
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 16 May 2015 18:59 (eight years ago) link
'twas I. Did not know about your corner over here. Mentioned you on this other thread over here
― Lemmy Cauchemar (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 16 May 2015 19:33 (eight years ago) link
ha! i am in new york but no longer at columbia (or in academia for that matter).
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 16 May 2015 20:22 (eight years ago) link
when are you in baseball?
― the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 17 May 2015 15:54 (eight years ago) link
waiting for the cyclones
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 17 May 2015 16:14 (eight years ago) link
caek what sorts of math do you use in graduate-level astrophysics classes?a
― the late great, Thursday, 4 June 2015 02:03 (eight years ago) link
a lot of normal algebra and calculus, linear algebra, vector calculus, maybe some field theory if you're doing cosmology. tbh nothing too fancy. the number of unsolved problems in astrophysics that seem vulnerable to exact or even approximate mathematical analysis is ... not large afaict.
far more important for research than "maths" in that sense are statistics (and maybe a bit of what would now be called machine learning), and numerical methods and linear algebra in a computer programming context.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 4 June 2015 03:05 (eight years ago) link
complex analysis too iirc
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 4 June 2015 03:07 (eight years ago) link
You mean you don't utilize Poincaré Dodecahedral Space? My illusions are shattered.
― Faron Young Folks (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 4 June 2015 03:08 (eight years ago) link
there is a spectrum from theoretical physics to cosmology to astrophysics to astronomy (although the difference between these last two may be illusory). at one end it's pretty much all maths, and at the other it's pretty much all statistics and/or instrumentation
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 4 June 2015 03:16 (eight years ago) link
interesting! thank you.
― the late great, Thursday, 4 June 2015 05:07 (eight years ago) link
i would ask more detailed questions, since i am interested in auditing some classes, but it sounds like i need to figure out where on that spectrum my interests fall before asking more questions
― the late great, Thursday, 4 June 2015 05:41 (eight years ago) link
ah. if you're auditing graduate level classes (rather than doing research) then the stats/machine learning stuff is going to be much less important.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 4 June 2015 15:37 (eight years ago) link
https://scontent-lga1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/l/t1.0-9/p720x720/11826025_10153447754851772_5865874462321484670_n.jpg?oh=347fa1544c8298fca55e37072d1668ce&oe=56563D12
not a shop...
https://www.facebook.com/NASA/photos/a.67899501771.69169.54971236771/10153447754851772/?type=1&fref=nf
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 5 August 2015 17:11 (eight years ago) link
wow
― welltris (crüt), Wednesday, 5 August 2015 17:13 (eight years ago) link
where is monolith?
― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 5 August 2015 17:15 (eight years ago) link
What's up with that raccoon's mask?
http://i.imgur.com/HmHJODr.png
― pplains, Wednesday, 5 August 2015 17:19 (eight years ago) link
idk, you say it's not a shop but i need more evidence before i believe in the moon. cool photo tho.
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 5 August 2015 17:33 (eight years ago) link
decent looking Horizon on space junk starts shortly ...
― xelab, Wednesday, 5 August 2015 18:56 (eight years ago) link
http://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/styles/full_width/public/thumbnails/image/dscovrepicmoontransitfull.gif?itok=m-pCEXqi
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 5 August 2015 19:26 (eight years ago) link
http://cdn.eso.org/images/screen/eso1532a.jpg
http://www.eso.org/public/news/eso1532/
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 6 August 2015 18:17 (eight years ago) link
I recognize that these images are generally hyper-colorized for legitimate scientific reasons, to accentuate structures that would not be nearly as visible without it, but they always leave me with a certain sense of artificiality, like fashion model photos with all the skin blemishes photoshopped away.
― Aimless, Thursday, 6 August 2015 19:50 (eight years ago) link
I just noticed that you can see the reflection of the moon in the ocean.
― nickn, Thursday, 6 August 2015 21:22 (eight years ago) link
that's the reflection of the sun
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 6 August 2015 23:56 (eight years ago) link
sunned in a celestial beef, dang
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Friday, 7 August 2015 01:52 (eight years ago) link
:(
― nickn, Friday, 7 August 2015 06:54 (eight years ago) link
aw! icarus, o icarus.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 7 August 2015 14:08 (eight years ago) link
Icky for short
― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Friday, 7 August 2015 14:14 (eight years ago) link
caek you have probably seen this but for those that have this thread bookmarked check out this gif of flyby of pluto from a video nasa posted:
https://33.media.tumblr.com/9478051d20de16848348a5dc65caccda/tumblr_nu170k9x4R1rdy7odo1_500.gif
― 1995 ball boy (Karl Malone), Thursday, 3 September 2015 02:57 (eight years ago) link
fn hell that's cool
― andrew m., Thursday, 3 September 2015 03:48 (eight years ago) link
Why does the sock monkey look away from us?
― pplains, Thursday, 3 September 2015 03:49 (eight years ago) link
i have not seen that! nuts!
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 8 September 2015 10:29 (eight years ago) link
https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/atoms/files/nasa_graphics_manual_nhb_1430-2_jan_1976.pdf
― 龜, Tuesday, 15 September 2015 11:58 (eight years ago) link
👍
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 15 September 2015 17:22 (eight years ago) link
A global ocean lies beneath the icy crust of Saturn's geologically active moon Enceladus
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/09/150915155309.htm
― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 16 September 2015 17:44 (eight years ago) link
http://www.nasa.gov/feature/pluto-wows-in-spectacular-new-backlit-panorama
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 17 September 2015 16:14 (eight years ago) link
http://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/styles/full_width/public/thumbnails/image/nh-apluto-mountains-plains-9-17-15.png?itok=30xh2XGF
yeah, these are phenomenal.
http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--kRh_098f--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/1434747542103831844.png
In this small section of the larger crescent image of Pluto, taken by NASA's New Horizons just 15 minutes after the spacecraft's closest approach on July 14, 2015, the setting sun illuminates a fog or near-surface haze, which is cut by the parallel shadows of many local hills and small mountains. The image was taken from a distance of 11,000 miles (18,000 kilometers), and the width of the image is 115 miles (185 kilometers).
― 1996 ball boy (Karl Malone), Thursday, 17 September 2015 18:36 (eight years ago) link
hi pluto
― μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 17 September 2015 18:44 (eight years ago) link
I thought about photoshopping the Alien derelict in there but I'm a stickler for realism and at that scale it would be about 1 pixel across.
― ledge, Thursday, 17 September 2015 19:40 (eight years ago) link
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/thestandardsmanual/reissue-of-the-1975-nasa-graphics-standards-manual
there's a kickstarter lol
― 龜, Sunday, 27 September 2015 19:47 (eight years ago) link
http://notes.husk.org/post/130639610239/low-sun-apollo
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 6 October 2015 23:05 (eight years ago) link
Daniel Clark · Penryn CollegePeople please go look at the dodgy CGI graphics. If your mind tells you that that is the way a lunar module looks when taking off (like a B grade hollywood production) then you my friend have been indoctronated to a point where fantasy trying to imitate reality has actually become reality. All fake. There is no photo of earth. On apollo 17 they supposedly took a whole bunch. Of a perfectly round earth...but wait. We are on an oblate shperoid? And more recently we have found out we are on a pear shaped oblate spheriod? According to todays most foremost bullshit artist on the universe. Neil Degrasse Tyson. Makes you wonder about the automatic earth shape corrective lenses they must have had on their cameras. And why? There is no real picture of earth. If you guys find one send it. Im betting it will be some image from the Galileo satelite, or from the apollo missions or from the space station. If those are the ones anyone is going to put forth then so be it. I will show you why every singlo one of them is fake.We didnt go to the moon. And Nasa lost all the original documentation and data of the supposed greatest achievement in mankinds history when american courts ordered NASA to hand over their data.Sound plausible?If so i can do nothing for you people. You want to believe something, then fine. We are all allowed to have our dreams. But then dont taut your views as if you have proof of them. Let those moon missions expand your imagination of what it could be like. Because we havent gone there. Just out of interest.
Oh and another bombshell. It is flat. Que the science i know all too well and Ill explain it away for you:
Daniel Clark · Penryn CollegeYeah sure. And then they lost all the data and recordings. Come now man. Let's put our thinking caps on. They lost 800 boxes worth of data on man's most important achievement? After Nasa fought a freedom of information request by the public to have the data kept hidden. Then they get ordered by the US supreme Court to hand over the documents as the public have the right to the project they funded. Then NASA said they lost the footage! Really? Come now people. You don't have to be a tinfoil wearing idiot to see a lie.Like · Reply · Oct 3, 2015 6:42am
Daniel Clark · Penryn CollegeAnd Seumas. You don't know me. You don't know the capability of my mind. I investigated the moon landings and all space travel at length. It's filled with holes. Your education is programming friend. Please tell me you don't believe propoganda is just a word used in reference to the past because then you're just naive. Enjoy paying billions to nasa for fake pictures and rotating earth footage that shows no change in cloud formations over a 24 hour spin around its own axis. Yeah you keep your education mate. Didnt teach you much about logic and thinking for yourself. They just taught you which answers to give in tests if you want to move on to the next one.Like · Reply · Oct 3, 2015 6:47am
Daniel Clark · Penryn CollegeAnd just a simple point that I shouldn't have to make. Talking to someone who tells you what they have done without being under oath doesn't count as proof. Also. Why is the earth's size in their videos wrong? Why is it virtually the same size from the supposed moon they landed on as the moon is from earth? How did they get past the van Allen belts without even having discovered them at the time of the lunar landings? The astronauts wore no protective gear against a threat they didn't know about. The severity of the radiation they would have experienced would have started affecting them during their trip if they were even lucky enough to survive it. So seems Jim lied to your face man.Like · Reply · Oct 3, 2015 6:52am
― Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 6 October 2015 23:14 (eight years ago) link
can't wait for caek's response to these allegations
― μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 7 October 2015 14:23 (eight years ago) link
i like the "why didn't russia say it was a hoax, since they clearly could have picked up the radio signals coming back?" argument
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 7 October 2015 23:26 (eight years ago) link
http://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2015/10/the-most-interesting-star-in-our-galaxy/410023/
extraordinary claims require not running your mouth off like a damn fool
― 0 / 0 (lukas), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 22:16 (eight years ago) link
lol yeah saw that, looks bananas
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 22:50 (eight years ago) link
https://www.facebook.com/GMTelescope/videos/vb.1429820553926626/1641664616075551/?type=2&theater
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 17 October 2015 16:46 (eight years ago) link
that's awesome
― Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, 17 October 2015 21:53 (eight years ago) link
detention for WPost headline writer
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2014/11/14/uranus-might-be-full-of-surprises/
― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 18 November 2015 19:02 (eight years ago) link
strong headline
can't believe there are people say "your a nuss" :-(
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 23 November 2015 13:32 (eight years ago) link
http://planetary.s3.amazonaws.com/assets/images/9-small-bodies/2015/20151211_NAC_2015-12-10T01_31_06_651Z_ID10_1397549000_F22_levels.jpg
me after a few pints
http://www.planetary.org/multimedia/space-images/small-bodies/comet-cg-20151211-osiris.html
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 11 December 2015 16:48 (eight years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYnNDODWYAAbFCU.png
A very deep Chandra view of metals, sloshing and feedback in the Centaurus cluster of galaxieshttp://arxiv.org/abs/1601.01489
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 16:28 (eight years ago) link
http://gawker.com/german-food-is-driving-refugees-back-to-the-war-zones-t-1762193158
― 龜, Wednesday, 2 March 2016 15:35 (eight years ago) link
refugees otm
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 2 March 2016 15:40 (eight years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/EHTN00d.gif
― 龜, Wednesday, 6 July 2016 13:14 (seven years ago) link
boy ain't that some timing.
― pplains, Wednesday, 6 July 2016 13:29 (seven years ago) link
"deorbit" https://www.missionjuno.swri.edu/deorbit
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 6 July 2016 14:24 (seven years ago) link
So would "its five-year mission" be an appropriate phrase?
― takin' care of beersness (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 6 July 2016 14:59 (seven years ago) link
yes but it now has another mission: 37 orbits of jupiter, ~2 weeks each, so still a couple of years until it gets deorbited into jupiter (to avoid contaminating any of the moons)
the orbits are v elliptical because jupiter has a crazy radiation field that would fry the electronics
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/39/Juno_trajectory_through_radiation_belts.png?1467818421847
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 6 July 2016 15:23 (seven years ago) link
sounds like they're hiding something there
― mh, Wednesday, 6 July 2016 15:34 (seven years ago) link
thought jupiter was trump there for a sec
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 6 July 2016 19:59 (seven years ago) link
will the heat affect yr viewing of the meteor shower?
― The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 11 August 2016 19:07 (seven years ago) link
no but the clouds and the demon drink will
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 11 August 2016 19:20 (seven years ago) link
hey caek did u recently recommend a series of books of historical maps?
― Mordy, Thursday, 1 September 2016 01:22 (seven years ago) link
yes these ones
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=dp_byline_sr_book_1?ie=UTF8&text=Colin+McEvedy&search-alias=books&field-author=Colin+McEvedy&sort=relevancerank
i've read medieval, ancient, and modern. currently reading american history to 1870 which is great (although i suspect some of the pre-columbian speculation is a little outdated). recent is next.
they are extremely accessible, quick reads. i'm not an expert but they seem like tour de force concise syntheses of huge subjects too.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 1 September 2016 01:42 (seven years ago) link
also engaging wit throughout and occasionally laugh out loud e.g.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CkRdU01WYAAQ_eX.jpg
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 1 September 2016 01:43 (seven years ago) link
this is a good twitter account to bring civility to your twitter a few times a day btw
https://twitter.com/dscovr_epic
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 1 September 2016 01:46 (seven years ago) link
how is ancient for maps of roman empire?
― Mordy, Thursday, 1 September 2016 02:02 (seven years ago) link
xp needs some poles imo
― mookieproof, Thursday, 1 September 2016 02:02 (seven years ago) link
anyway i ordered the ancient one so i hope it's good for that xp to myself
― Mordy, Thursday, 1 September 2016 02:03 (seven years ago) link
the conceit of the entire series is that each spread has a page of text and a map, and that map is the same area of earth on every page. iirc the ancient world one covers all of europe, quite a lot of north africa, and asia to present day northern india. so it's not super high resolution. and each page covers decades, so the temporal resolution isn't high either. the odd battle gets described (and in a couple of cases gets an inset map) but this is more "broad sweep of history" stuff. obviously greece and rome dominate the ancient world.
the medieval book starts with the conversion of constantine, so you're going to want that one too if you're interested in rome in particular. but medieval is great regardless: along with the american one it's the best/most interesting of the series to me.
you can get them used on amazon for $5ish btw
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 1 September 2016 02:09 (seven years ago) link
ok u sold me i got like 5 of them
― Mordy, Thursday, 1 September 2016 02:19 (seven years ago) link
ancient, medieval, modern, america, africa
― Mordy, Thursday, 1 September 2016 02:20 (seven years ago) link
lmao. recent is the only one you're missing. i don't have africa. it's a different shape book so i'm not sure if it's the same premise, but i'm sure it's great.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 1 September 2016 02:22 (seven years ago) link
those look good, i impulse ordered ancient and medieval.
― until the next, delayed, glaciation (map), Thursday, 1 September 2016 02:48 (seven years ago) link
worst case they are good http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=shiterature
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 1 September 2016 03:48 (seven years ago) link
love historical atlases. i have the ancient history one in this series which gets my seal of approval, backed by the formidable authority of my related ba and ma from a long time ago.
― Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 1 September 2016 13:11 (seven years ago) link
btw this my bløg https://pinboard.in/u:mike
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 1 September 2016 13:23 (seven years ago) link
i'm gonna bookmark that and drink your milkshake by beating you to posting cool articles to ilx ;-)
jks aside thx for the Markov Chain Monte Carlo Without All The Bullshit, was just trying to read about this the other day and getting nowhere
― flopson, Thursday, 1 September 2016 13:39 (seven years ago) link
dope you guys thx
― goole, Thursday, 1 September 2016 16:57 (seven years ago) link
xp it's good, right?! i am cowriting a report at work about probabilistic programming and that was one of the more useful pieces of background. we'll be publishing an annotated reading list for the whole "bayesian inference + sampling algorithms + compiler design" thing later this year. will link here if i remember (remind me if i don't, it will be primo PDFs)
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 1 September 2016 17:49 (seven years ago) link
lol at this
People react to problems of this sort in different ways. Some build to large safety factors, searching around for extra material to shore up their walls. Others respond more neurotically, erecting many-storyeyed, extremely perilous structures, decked out with advertisements in a special archaeologist-speak that goes like this:Major new civilization: a particularly disappointing digHistory will have to be rewritten: confirms an existing footnote in the standard work on the subjectA great city: a few hovels, maybe a villageThe Venice of its day: any site that has produced a few articles from somewhere elseEarliest known: undated
Major new civilization: a particularly disappointing digHistory will have to be rewritten: confirms an existing footnote in the standard work on the subjectA great city: a few hovels, maybe a villageThe Venice of its day: any site that has produced a few articles from somewhere elseEarliest known: undated
― Mordy, Saturday, 3 September 2016 01:43 (seven years ago) link
Great stuff, these atlases. I have to limit myself to the ones I have because otherwise that's a whole other bookshelf taken up.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 3 September 2016 01:45 (seven years ago) link
ha yeah he is particularly salty in the ancient one.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 3 September 2016 01:46 (seven years ago) link
― mookieproof, Wednesday, August 31, 2016 10:02 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?release=2016-231
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 3 September 2016 01:47 (seven years ago) link
ty
― mookieproof, Saturday, 3 September 2016 01:59 (seven years ago) link
hello mate http://www.esa.int/Our_Activities/Space_Science/Rosetta/Philae_found
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 5 September 2016 19:14 (seven years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/xSBxXJ7.jpg
― 龜, Monday, 5 September 2016 20:07 (seven years ago) link
^^^stealing that
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Monday, 5 September 2016 23:06 (seven years ago) link
http://i65.tinypic.com/kbvnsx.jpg
http://spacetelescope.org/news/heic1620/
Observable Universe contains ten times more galaxies than previously thought
― StanM, Thursday, 13 October 2016 18:02 (seven years ago) link
the universe: no matter how bad you think, it's always worse
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 13 October 2016 18:19 (seven years ago) link
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bc/Galaxy_195910.jpg/220px-Galaxy_195910.jpg
― LL Cantante (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 13 October 2016 18:40 (seven years ago) link
My first thought is to ask how does this discovery affect calculations of the total mass of the universe, especially in regards to the amount of dark matter thought necessary to create an oscillating universe?
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Thursday, 13 October 2016 18:42 (seven years ago) link
it likely doesn't very much. the mass distribution of the universe on which those expansion/contraction calculations depend is not found by counting galaxies. it comes from treating those galaxies we can see as probes. how fast they move, etc. tells us how much mass is nearby. so it's not the end of the world if we can't see all the galaxies, at least from the POV of figuring out if the universe is expanding, contracting, etc.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 13 October 2016 19:00 (seven years ago) link
so it's not the end of the world if we can't see all the galaxies
invert that sentence--We can see all the galaxies, and it's the end of the world!--and you have a great bad 1950s pulp story
― I hear from this arsehole again, he's going in the river (James Morrison), Thursday, 13 October 2016 23:53 (seven years ago) link
i think you mean a great good 1950s pulp story
― The times they are a changing, perhaps (map), Friday, 14 October 2016 05:12 (seven years ago) link
If not a good right-before-the-crackup Silverberg story.
― Fustian of this ilx (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 14 October 2016 06:01 (seven years ago) link
this is a fun story http://nautil.us/issue/42/fakes/the-cosmologists-who-faked-it
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 6 November 2016 04:48 (seven years ago) link
Thought that was going to be about Joe Weber.
― 195,000 Momus Threads Can't Be RONG! (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 6 November 2016 12:41 (seven years ago) link
That was a great read.
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Sunday, 6 November 2016 18:22 (seven years ago) link
Somehow never thought I would never "hear" Aimless use that exact formulation.
― 195,000 Momus Threads Can't Be RONG! (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 6 November 2016 18:47 (seven years ago) link
Do I contradict myself? Very well, I contradict myself. I contain multitudes.
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Sunday, 6 November 2016 18:49 (seven years ago) link
HI caek - I know this is not your field, but I don't know any other scientists to ask, and google searches have not been helpful.
Is it possible that the idea that the time dimension is unidirectional is false, and that it is instead a strong force that we might be able to overcome with technological advances? Like say if you were falling from an infinite height toward a centre of gravity, you would perceive that movement was possible only in the single direction "down." But if you were able during that freefall to harness air resistance and glide, moving you in a lateral direction, or if somehow you could manufacture a helicopter and temporarily overcome gravity to move upward, then you would have unlocked the hitherto tyrannical unidirectionality of space movement.
I get that in this scenario you occupy three dimensions while falling (and are also moving along the single time axis) whereas in the real world there's no perceivable evidence that multiple dimensions of time exist, or that the past or future physically exists anywhen, but I'm willing to chalk that up - for the sake of argument - to a handicap of perception.
Am I on the road to a Nobel or should I quit drinking in the daytime?
― hardcore dilettante, Sunday, 6 November 2016 22:03 (seven years ago) link
time is not just another dimension. it's very different to the three dimensions of space.
there are lots of arguments for this (unlike the other dimensions, it gets multiplied by the square root of minus 1 when it crops up in relativity, and other messed up things), but imo the simplest one is: time is special because of the second law of thermodynamics.
that law states that entropy in a closed system must increase with time. traveling in the direction in which time increases is possible because entropy increases that way. but backwards in time entropy decreases, which is verboten. there are ways around this (by spending energy you can decrease entropy), but hopefully it makes the basic point that backwards and forwards in time are not two arbitrary and equally possible bearings in space like north and south.
basically, you can't make an argument that beings "think of time as being just like space" without being very very careful.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 6 November 2016 22:52 (seven years ago) link
the infinite monkey cage special on relativity really helped me with some stuff
im sorry
― the kids are alt right (darraghmac), Sunday, 6 November 2016 23:15 (seven years ago) link
hey i watched this film on time travel a few times. when you say "energy" needs to work against entropy, would a specialized device, powered by a small plutonium reaction, possibly work?
i have acquired a vehicle that i believe could go fast enough to counteract the physical forces, combined with the devicementioned above this setup should work
― mh 😏, Sunday, 6 November 2016 23:42 (seven years ago) link
the most famous example of entropy decreasing (in the short term in cosmological terms) is the evolution of life on earth. the energy source there is the sun. if you don't have a star then perhaps a capacitor of some sort.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 6 November 2016 23:51 (seven years ago) link
localized time disruption due to energy from outside sources? idk
― mh 😏, Monday, 7 November 2016 00:05 (seven years ago) link
yeah doesn't that only work if you consider earth as a closed system?
― mh 😏, Monday, 7 November 2016 00:06 (seven years ago) link
forgetting the existence of the sun is one of the ways creationists sometimes use the 2nd law to argue that evolution is impossible.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 7 November 2016 00:28 (seven years ago) link
🎶 it's all just a little bit of entropy decreasing (trumpet riff) 🎶
― flopson, Monday, 7 November 2016 13:03 (seven years ago) link
the square root of minus 1
― hardcore dilettante, Monday, 7 November 2016 13:13 (seven years ago) link
it's just a thing between you and i
― mh 😏, Monday, 7 November 2016 14:21 (seven years ago) link
https://d2t1xqejof9utc.cloudfront.net/screenshots/pics/a028bf2f275780eacd06484c545e6e17/large.gif
― 龜, Wednesday, 28 December 2016 13:33 (seven years ago) link
i dont know what that is but i like it
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Thursday, 29 December 2016 10:45 (seven years ago) link
it is a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geneva_drive
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 31 December 2016 19:01 (seven years ago) link
i was in the uk last week and saw some rare crisps 龜 and thought of you
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 31 December 2016 19:04 (seven years ago) link
one of my favourite things is when you have a call scheduled for 9am or whatever and it's getting to 9:05 and you're starting to think "this person isn't going to call"
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 11 January 2017 14:06 (seven years ago) link
it's 9:06 now
Update request
This happened to me last week - 16 minutes late - and things got really tense.
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 11 January 2017 14:55 (seven years ago) link
they called at 9:09 :-(
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 11 January 2017 15:06 (seven years ago) link
then of course there's the 9:00:00 on the dot kind of call, which is like a fresh tray of frozen ice cubes
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 11 January 2017 15:14 (seven years ago) link
8:59 and i'm still in my pjs!
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 11 January 2017 15:15 (seven years ago) link
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/26/science/solid-metallic-hydrogen-harvard-physicists.html
i love how petty everybody in this piece is
― 龜, Friday, 27 January 2017 02:21 (seven years ago) link
haha yes, open contempt. love it.
i'm on team anti-science. this is what they publish http://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2016/11/30/science.aah6990. it's a bad journal.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 27 January 2017 03:07 (seven years ago) link
the dog ate my evidence
― mh 😏, Friday, 27 January 2017 03:15 (seven years ago) link
what are yr August eclipse plans?
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 27 January 2017 04:35 (seven years ago) link
going to try to go to totality for the one in 2024 assuming we're all alive, but i don't think i'll make this one
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 27 January 2017 18:18 (seven years ago) link
I live in Oregon, where the path of totality passes, and I am psyched that this one is in August instead of January, like the only other one I had a chance to "see" through a cloud deck multiple thousand feet thick. (It was still damned impressive despite the complete lack of visibility.) I am hoping to be backpacking up somewhere high in the Cascades on the big day. Best way to beat the crowds.
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Friday, 27 January 2017 18:29 (seven years ago) link
DAMN
https://twitter.com/ESO/status/834463153966682113
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 18:05 (seven years ago) link
http://www.sci-news.com/astronomy/trappist-1-seven-earth-size-exoplanets-04641.html
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 18:07 (seven years ago) link
now we just need to figure out how to travel near/at/above light speed or build multigenerational colony ships and we're all set
― Mordy, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 18:08 (seven years ago) link
don't worry collaborator in chief musk is on the case
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 18:09 (seven years ago) link
The more immediate excitement would be the prospect of finding some form of life there, right?
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 18:11 (seven years ago) link
that would be extremely exciting for sure
― Mordy, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 18:12 (seven years ago) link
TRAPPIST-1 is an ultracool dwarf star
damn right it is
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 18:13 (seven years ago) link
on the scale of excitement, discovering alien lifeforms is definitely way up there
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 18:14 (seven years ago) link
absent life this is fake news
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 18:14 (seven years ago) link
All seven planets in this system — TRAPPIST-1b, c, d, e, f, g and h — are similar in size to Earth and Venus, or slightly smaller. At least the innermost six are probably rocky in composition.
conspiracy theory - why is NASA covering up TRAPPIST-1a?
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 18:15 (seven years ago) link
TRAPPIST-1a is actually a beer
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 18:16 (seven years ago) link
equal to 40 light beers imo
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 18:17 (seven years ago) link
So the whole system is made of alcohol? I'm down.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 18:19 (seven years ago) link
afawk life is an extraordinarily rare event (that we cannot replicate it yet scientifically suggests as much imo) so figuring out interstellar colonization still seems slightly more probable to me than discovering life, nb that life might be more common but intelligent life exceptionally less common? idk been a while since i thought deeply about fermi.
― Mordy, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 18:20 (seven years ago) link
i never clicked this thread, never knew it was about space. I have a 5 year old who will have some questions later. specifically about the cosmic web and the limen alpha blob, whatever the hell that it.
― nomar, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 18:27 (seven years ago) link
HI DERE
― Disco Blecch and His Exo-Planettes (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 18:28 (seven years ago) link
imo life either started 0, 1 or many, many times. there aren't going to be 2 civilizations in the galaxy. the unknown parameters would have to be juuuuust right for that.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 19:13 (seven years ago) link
(and we know it's not 0)
0 option presumably the God option
― Mordy, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 19:20 (seven years ago) link
I'd say there is a big difference between "life" and "civilizations" and the first does not imply the second. There are (very conservatively) a quarter million species on earth atm, and life has existed here for approximately a billion years, so the number of species that have ever lived is enormously larger, but only one earth species has created civilizations and our best understanding says it has only existed as a species for perhaps 200,000 years.
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 19:28 (seven years ago) link
Do we have any idea how likely it is we'll find water on one of these planets?
― 0 / 0 (lukas), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 19:57 (seven years ago) link
xp i find arguments about odds or scale unconvincing in either direction because the number of times the dice got rolled is so large and uncertain. the choices of rates at which happen that result in a number of civilizations other than zero, 1 or very many are too few.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 20:42 (seven years ago) link
nasa out the gate with hipster art
https://exoplanets.nasa.gov/resources/2159/
― goole, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 21:21 (seven years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/XlJ3iiQ.jpg
― 龜, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 21:25 (seven years ago) link
https://twitter.com/NASA/status/834487010773581824
@InasAhmed16 We think they are tidally locked to their host star, which means they would have permanent night/day sides.
fuck this, not going, ever
― goole, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 21:26 (seven years ago) link
xps I agree that, if life arose independently at least twice in the universe, then the number of times it has arisen must be some very large number. Arriving at any sound prediction regarding the number of times life has independently formed civilizations seems impossible to me. Two civilizations would be an extremely improbable number, but any other number you could name would be equally improbable.
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 21:27 (seven years ago) link
dark side is calling me
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 21:43 (seven years ago) link
Arceon is a man-made satellite that has been re-purposed by an order of reclusive monks who rejected all modern technology. Originally constructed of metal, it was largely clad in wood and turned into a giant floating monastery by the monks. Inside, it consists of numerous levels, some as much as 100 metres high, that are, according to writer Vincent Ward, "layered like an ant's nest, or bee's nest".[1] The small planet contains an abbey, libraries, mess halls, communal lavatories and a large glass works, as well as open fields where crops are grown and sheep are reared, lakes and even an extensive sea on one of its lower levels, which acts as a reservoir supplying water to the population. Arceon maintains a thin atmosphere, while at its center a "technology room" is said to maintain and refresh this atmosphere, allowing the monks to survive. Entry to this room is strictly forbidden.
― 龜, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 21:46 (seven years ago) link
tbf civilization has developed independently multiple times on this planet alone, depending on which historical models you consider
― Treesh-Hurt (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 21:46 (seven years ago) link
xp is that from the rejected alien 3 pitch?
― mh 😏, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 21:53 (seven years ago) link
presumably "civilization" developed independently multiple times tho bc something about advanced primates have the capability built in (in which case civilization might be an easy problem but developing the right animal to achieve civilization a difficult one). it's not even clear tho to me that making the leap from inorganic material to organic material is an easy problem bc if it could happen randomly w/ the right inputs then we should certainly be able to crack it in our labs (or do i misunderstand something here?). that we can't suggests that there's some variable or dynamic that isn't even on our radar. also we should assume that if the big step is from inorganic to organic material then there could be other planets that have inorganic to some other non-organic but still life-equivalent form.
― Mordy, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 22:12 (seven years ago) link
(also if it wasn't obvious my explanation for why we can't replicate this transition is metaphysical in nature)
― Mordy, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 22:14 (seven years ago) link
Two civilizations would be an extremely improbable number, but any other number you could name would be equally improbable.
yep, but there are lots more numbers that are much greater than 2 than there are exactly equal to 2.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 22:21 (seven years ago) link
caek otm on his thread in his corner
― Disco Blecch and His Exo-Planettes (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 22:33 (seven years ago) link
(And the Exo-Planettes sing)
Sometimes I wonder if there have probably been species from the fossil record who were as clever as humanity, but lacked the dexterity to make basic hand tools - so just chilled and tread water for entire geological epochs. Civilisation could actually be an extremely rare aberration in this universe imo. It seems too reliant on hard work, good luck, countless environmental + genetic factors. And if civilisation did repeatedly occur within the universe, maybe it uniformly has a 50000 or less years shelf life.
― calzino, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 22:34 (seven years ago) link
Mordy yeah i'm not arguing with the scarcity of creatures capable of creating civilizations i was just being a history pedant hohoho
as far as life/not life is concerned tho my understanding is that rather than a binary there are scientists who think in terms of a scale of increasingly complex molecular arrangements where there's clarity on "this is/is not life" at the ends of the scale but where it mayn't be possible ever to determine a precise point at which something can be defined as a living organism?
― Treesh-Hurt (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 22:37 (seven years ago) link
http://pbfcomics.com/archive_b/PBF111-Reset.jpg
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 22:38 (seven years ago) link
there are fairly bright line definitions of life that work with the life we've encountered so far, but assume a lot.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 22:39 (seven years ago) link
I'm a little skeptical at our level of intelligence and civilization being the pinnacle of the whole process, which humans seem to think they are.
We're only the first self-conscious talking thinking monkeys here, would we even recognize types of intelligence that are different or further evolved than ours?
― StanM, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 22:40 (seven years ago) link
imo our intelligence is a highly evolved mechanism used by bacteria colonies to eventually find their way to other galaxies
― mh 😏, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 22:53 (seven years ago) link
Life on earth is just a trick by DNA to get copied imo
― StanM, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 22:59 (seven years ago) link
We aren't the pinnacle of anything. We just happened, the same as jellyfish or skinks. But civilization is a very specific kind of behavior and evolution can easily chug along for hundreds of millions of years without producing organisms that choose to behave this way. We were never necessary or even very likely. All we can safely say is that we are a strange species that produces such varied phenomena as mathematics and ice capades.
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 23:07 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcRzLAX0yZ8
― mark s, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 23:09 (seven years ago) link
http://68.media.tumblr.com/870af47dd0a72f7390e9d90c2f52ee98/tumblr_nltlg6mALF1qi66kho1_500.gifRoot beer!
― Disco Blecch and His Exo-Planettes (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 23 February 2017 00:21 (seven years ago) link
it depends at what point you call something a civilization (a strange term with a dubious history imo); did ppl develop tools separately? i would respect any and all aliens with tools
― ogmor, Thursday, 23 February 2017 09:59 (seven years ago) link
what's all this about https://phys.org/news/2017-02-distant-asteroids-clue-planet.html
― 龜, Thursday, 23 February 2017 17:11 (seven years ago) link
so...do the aliens fuck?
― flopson, Thursday, 23 February 2017 17:17 (seven years ago) link
one thing about aliens that is not widely understood is that they are fucking all the time, and i mean ALL the time, with their minds, telepathically
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 23 February 2017 17:18 (seven years ago) link
thanks Karl, that's what i thought just wanted to make sure
― flopson, Thursday, 23 February 2017 17:29 (seven years ago) link
i every direction you look someone is fucking https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Olbers%27_paradox
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 23 February 2017 17:46 (seven years ago) link
caek during the election did u share on one of the politics thread a website that aggregated all the betting sites?
― Mordy, Tuesday, 28 February 2017 23:03 (seven years ago) link
Predictwise? Or do you mean the one that just lists all the different bookmakers odds?
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 00:11 (seven years ago) link
I think the latter and it included predictwise? Or was that just predictwise
― Mordy, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 00:48 (seven years ago) link
http://gizmodo.com/wild-new-theory-suggests-radio-bursts-beyond-our-galaxy-1793130515
― 龜, Friday, 10 March 2017 13:45 (seven years ago) link
https://twitter.com/astrokiwi/status/839881414984282112
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 10 March 2017 14:08 (seven years ago) link
Hi caek
Wtf is a time crystal and how can one be 'created' is it a physical thing or a theoretical structure that can be modelled
Any and all other info appreciated
Ta
― brat_stuntin (darraghmac), Wednesday, 15 March 2017 17:09 (seven years ago) link
wait are you telling me you've made it all these years without making a time crystal? i am very surprised and impressed, it's not easy out there without one.
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 17:13 (seven years ago) link
You get 10 seconds in the dome for every one you collect iirc
― Pengest & Corsa (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 15 March 2017 17:14 (seven years ago) link
There's a reason caek gets a corner and youse clowns get a ring
― brat_stuntin (darraghmac), Wednesday, 15 March 2017 17:18 (seven years ago) link
dmac - check 25 seconds into this for detailed instructions:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BuSUH4vt_I
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 17:21 (seven years ago) link
This useless banter is just another twenty wasted time crystals I'm never gonna get back
― brat_stuntin (darraghmac), Wednesday, 15 March 2017 17:21 (seven years ago) link
― Pengest & Corsa (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, March 15, 2017 5:14 PM (thirty minutes ago)
strong lol @ this
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 17:45 (seven years ago) link
'useless banter' = posts very much out of character
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 17:47 (seven years ago) link
this is the most useful thing i've seen
https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/03/researchers-present-time-crystals-made-of-quantum-mechanical-oscillations/
my intuition is (1) crystalline structure is an extremely weird concept mathematically and i got my second lowest finals great on the relevant course (2) treating time like a spatial dimension is guaranteed to make your intuition useless. i got my lowest finals grade on the relevant course.
that's all i got!
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 15 March 2017 17:53 (seven years ago) link
That's it, into the ring with the rest of em
― brat_stuntin (darraghmac), Wednesday, 15 March 2017 18:02 (seven years ago) link
super-potatoes for Mars!
https://www.forbes.com/sites/bridaineparnell/2017/03/30/scientists-grow-super-potatoes-in-mars-like-conditions/#4303e3cc694f
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 30 March 2017 18:05 (seven years ago) link
Researchers from the International Potato Center (CIP) in PeruResearchers from the International Potato Center (CIP) in PeruResearchers from the International Potato Center (CIP) in Peru
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 30 March 2017 18:10 (seven years ago) link
did you see the martian morbs?
i did not. were there potatoes?
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 30 March 2017 18:11 (seven years ago) link
i saw the NY1 tease "Potatoes on Mars" and thought they'd found a Bowie alt take.
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 30 March 2017 18:12 (seven years ago) link
yes it was an extremely potato-centric movie
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 30 March 2017 18:12 (seven years ago) link
you might enjoy it given your irish heritage
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 30 March 2017 18:13 (seven years ago) link
i do my best to ignore it except for Irish Night at the ballpark
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 30 March 2017 18:15 (seven years ago) link
ah the auld midget cabbage bowling
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 30 March 2017 18:19 (seven years ago) link
this is good content, fellows
― a landlocked exclave (mh 😏), Thursday, 30 March 2017 18:23 (seven years ago) link
now is the spudder of our goodcontent...
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 30 March 2017 18:24 (seven years ago) link
#ROSETTA 😍 OSIRIS #67P/CHURYUMOV-GERASIMENKO new albums 😍--ROSETTA EXTENSION 2 MTP030-- Miércoles 1 Junio 2016 all filters stacked pic.twitter.com/Bf173Z5g79— landru79 (@landru79) April 23, 2018
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 23 April 2018 23:00 (six years ago) link
wow!
i'm really enjoying this entire page, actually
https://imagearchives.esac.esa.int/index.php?/category/410/
― Karl Malone, Monday, 23 April 2018 23:15 (six years ago) link
are the bright streaks ice, i guess?
― Karl Malone, Monday, 23 April 2018 23:16 (six years ago) link
<3 ♪♫ caek's corner ♪♫
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 24 April 2018 01:46 (six years ago) link
the foreground things are cosmic rays, which you get on CCDs when the exposures are long. the weird downwards snow/motion effect in the background is from background stars.
here's an individual frame https://imagearchives.esac.esa.int/picture.php?/172648/category/410
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 24 April 2018 03:10 (six years ago) link
so you're telling me
i can see cosmic rays
― gbx, Tuesday, 24 April 2018 03:12 (six years ago) link
space is out of control
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 24 April 2018 03:13 (six years ago) link
yeah somebody oughta tell space to just chill the heck out
― gbx, Tuesday, 24 April 2018 03:15 (six years ago) link
caek plz tell space to take it down a notch
― valorous wokelord (silby), Tuesday, 24 April 2018 03:15 (six years ago) link
hey space: leave it m8
― gbx, Tuesday, 24 April 2018 03:17 (six years ago) link
counterpoint: space should amp it up a little, maybe put a donk on it
― you bet, nancy (map), Tuesday, 24 April 2018 04:06 (six years ago) link
it seems impossible to amp it up any more than it already is, but if anything has another level, it's space
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 24 April 2018 05:02 (six years ago) link
black is the donk of space
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 24 April 2018 05:08 (six years ago) link
🔊🇦🇶 Antarctic ice drop sound, TL;DR version 🇦🇶🔊1) As ice scrapes down hole, Doppler effect decreases sound frequency2) "Ricochet" is sound of ice hitting bottom coming up at varying speed3) "Heartbeat" is set by 320 m/sec speed of sound reverberating up/down hole@UofR pic.twitter.com/OZaUQERX54— Peter Neff (@peter_neff) April 27, 2018
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 16:16 (five years ago) link
this is beautiful, ty
― gbx, Tuesday, 27 November 2018 20:37 (five years ago) link
just bought one of these https://www.ambientweather.com/amws2902.html
i love the unboxing videos for weather stations! such incredible nerds! people are really angry about low accuracy sensors on wunderground.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 17 March 2019 22:17 (five years ago) link
bought one of those for my parents a few years ago but they didn't want to plug the internet part in : /
― mookieproof, Sunday, 17 March 2019 22:47 (five years ago) link
weather stations are cool as heck. my dad has one and I should see about upgrading it
the data issue is tricky because I think the more location-specific data we can have out there, the better! but threre’s a lot of money in it. it might be one of the few data privacy/monetizarion things where I’d be completely cool with a company giving the value proposition up front that they subsidize your station as long as you allow them to use the data. and if you were in a low-data area you’d maybe even get a bounty?
― mh, Monday, 18 March 2019 02:12 (five years ago) link
i am told that i should use a password manager. do you recommend any in particular? (didn't lastpass get hacked a little while back?)
― mookieproof, Thursday, 10 October 2019 23:17 (four years ago) link
1password
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 10 October 2019 23:18 (four years ago) link
(And yes you should. It feels risky but the alternatives are worse. Turn on 2FA everywhere you can.)
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 10 October 2019 23:19 (four years ago) link
tyvm!
― mookieproof, Thursday, 10 October 2019 23:20 (four years ago) link
cosining caek's advice!
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 10 October 2019 23:30 (four years ago) link
yeah my 1password rec is now slightly qualified b/c they'll coax you into paying monthly these days but I honestly don't care
― president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Thursday, 10 October 2019 23:36 (four years ago) link
LastPass is substantially worse of a user experience
i sync to dropbox, no subscription. but yes they do try really hard to funnel you into a subscription thing.
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 10 October 2019 23:38 (four years ago) link
(1password i mean)
I sync over WiFi for all my own stuff but we have a family subscription for all the shared stuff
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 10 October 2019 23:39 (four years ago) link
1Password user here since about 2010. I'm counting the days until I migrate to something, anything else. I just don't feel that 1Password is deserving of my subscription funds, even though it's not much. The company has gotten increasingly asinine since I signed up, and their support ranges from don't-care to shitty-snarkiness.
― Sassy Boutonnière (ledriver), Friday, 11 October 2019 23:46 (four years ago) link
Hmm, here's the same supernova remnant from Hubble in narrowband with a 10 year gap between frames. A few stars zooming around too, though I think only the one bright one will be obvious in the gif. pic.twitter.com/lIJ4tjstUa— Judy Schmidt (@SpaceGeck) September 12, 2019
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 27 December 2019 19:46 (four years ago) link
man, i fucking love this corner
― But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Friday, 27 December 2019 19:48 (four years ago) link
ditto
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Sunday, 29 December 2019 07:21 (four years ago) link
good account
A bit of Saturn pic.twitter.com/BlCx8EAKqV— Bits of Saturn (@bitsofsaturn) March 3, 2020
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 3 March 2020 16:59 (four years ago) link
caek are you actually from ☰☰☭☰☰ SHEFFIELD ☰☰☭☰☰ or just a fan
― mookieproof, Sunday, 21 June 2020 02:14 (three years ago) link
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 21 June 2020 02:28 (three years ago) link
i have ilxmailed u
― mookieproof, Sunday, 21 June 2020 03:48 (three years ago) link
haha got it thank you!
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 21 June 2020 03:55 (three years ago) link
<3
― mookieproof, Sunday, 21 June 2020 04:01 (three years ago) link
Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter launched 15 years ago today and is still going strong. It's incredible array of instruments include MARCI, CTX & @HiRISE pic.twitter.com/BO6bIXLcrn— Seán Doran (@_TheSeaning) August 12, 2020
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 20:28 (three years ago) link
i bought a NAS
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 25 August 2020 18:57 (three years ago) link
wait, does that mean you're in NAS now? if so, congrats!
(i don't much about what it takes to get in, but it seems congrats-worthy imo)
― The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 25 August 2020 19:30 (three years ago) link
No I got one of these https://www.synology.com/en-us/products/DS220+
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 25 August 2020 19:43 (three years ago) link
so we finally know which side caek favours in the great QNAP/Synology divide
i never thought we'd see this day
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 26 August 2020 14:10 (three years ago) link
caek u seem pretty smart lol, so I would appreciate your opinion on how Ouija boards work.
The prevailing theory is 'ideomotor effect,' a "psychological phenomenon wherein a subject makes motions unconsciously." This seems preposterous to me.
― life is beauitul (rip van wanko), Sunday, 30 August 2020 21:47 (three years ago) link
ideometer effect sounds right to me. granted this material was not covered during my phd.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 31 August 2020 03:14 (three years ago) link
you and all your fancy books! I think it's ghosts
― life is beauitul (rip van wanko), Monday, 31 August 2020 03:48 (three years ago) link
This seems preposterous to me.
You don't seem to grasp how little of brain activity emerges into consciousness. The very fact that participants who use Ouija boards are led to anticipate the possibility of meaningful actions can influence their participation. btw, it is not often emphasized, but sometimes Ouija boards give completely incoherent responses, even though the board helpfully supplies landing areas that circumvent the need for laboriously spelling out responses. This is explained by devotees as 'the spirits not feeling cooperative', which explains nothing.
― the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Monday, 31 August 2020 03:59 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBDxqCHxT_8
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 27 November 2020 07:12 (three years ago) link
Wow why the heck does anything need more than one horsepower
― is right unfortunately (silby), Friday, 27 November 2020 07:33 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RDBp_ofQL8
― Robert Gotopieces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 27 November 2020 15:27 (three years ago) link
that video looked familiar and i looked it up - helper, utah - yep. except he'd be fat with close-cropped hair, walmart clothes, miners lung and an opioid addiction.
― fleet doxes (map), Friday, 27 November 2020 17:25 (three years ago) link
https://amp.theguardian.com/science/2021/mar/05/ship-hovering-above-sea-cornwall-optical-illusion
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 6 March 2021 18:50 (three years ago) link
back in the good old days, an entire religion would have been founded based on that
― Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Saturday, 6 March 2021 19:04 (three years ago) link
“Superior mirages occur because of the weather condition known as a temperature inversion, where cold air lies close to the sea with warmer air above it,” said David Braine, a BBC meteorologist. “Since cold air is denser than warm air, it bends light towards the eyes of someone standing on the ground or on the coast, changing how a distant object appears.”
He added: “Superior mirages can produce a few different types of images – here a distant ship appears to float high above its actual position, but sometimes an object below the horizon can become visible.”
siiiiiiiick
― Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Saturday, 6 March 2021 19:06 (three years ago) link
Same thing causes https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marfa_lights but that flying boat is a particularly insane example
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 6 March 2021 19:15 (three years ago) link
subatomic antineutrino with 1,000 x the energy the LHC can produce detected (indirectly, because it collided with an electron and produced the predicted Glashow resonance) at the ice cube lab on Antarctica - https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03256-1I only understand part of that but it's still fascinating
― StanM, Wednesday, 10 March 2021 21:26 (three years ago) link
too bad it's paywalled. my first question was when did that happen? things down there have been very weird for the past year!
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 10 March 2021 22:37 (three years ago) link
ah press release says december 2016
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 10 March 2021 22:38 (three years ago) link
https://www.reddit.com/r/WhereDidTheSiloGo/search?q=subreddit%3AWhereDidTheSiloGo&restrict_sr=on&sort=top&t=all
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 18 March 2021 19:11 (three years ago) link
caek is the "general relativity explains away dark matter" thing bs?
― lukas, Thursday, 18 March 2021 19:15 (three years ago) link
i don't know what the thing is but no, GR does not remove the need for dark matter.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 18 March 2021 19:18 (three years ago) link
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/03/210304145458.htm
saw someone comment "but galactic rotation curves aren't the only evidence for dark matter" which seemed to make sense
― lukas, Thursday, 18 March 2021 19:24 (three years ago) link
yup. they're not even the main evidence at this point, although they were the first.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 18 March 2021 20:38 (three years ago) link
oooh
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2021/mar/23/large-hadron-collider-scientists-particle-physics
― StanM, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 14:59 (three years ago) link
Nice
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 20:31 (three years ago) link
Worm Tornado? Has anyone ever seen anything like this? These were out this morning near Maxwell park in #Hoboken. Clearly worms come out after it rains but this is something I’ve never seen! Pc: my 2nd ward neighbor. #wormtornado 😬🤦🏻♀️ 🪱 🌪 pic.twitter.com/tWBOMzV5fK— Tiffanie Fisher, Councilwoman (@Tiffanie_Fisher) March 25, 2021
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 25 March 2021 20:40 (three years ago) link
eldritch
― 《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 25 March 2021 20:40 (three years ago) link
Nossir
― recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Thursday, 25 March 2021 20:49 (three years ago) link
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/07/science/particle-physics-muon-fermilab-brookhaven.html
― just sayin, Thursday, 8 April 2021 09:10 (three years ago) link
Would it be correct to say that dark energy makes up 68% of the mass of the universe?
― At Easter I had a fall. I don't know whether to laugh or cry (ledge), Friday, 23 July 2021 19:25 (two years ago) link
i'm out of my depth but ...
yes, assuming 1) energy and mass are equivalent 2) it's appropriate to think of dark energy as energy rather than something more exotic like a negative pressure.
1) is uncontroversially true 2) may be true, but is not uncontroversial given no one knows what DE is, IIUC.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 23 July 2021 19:35 (two years ago) link
The Dead have a song about this
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 23 July 2021 19:43 (two years ago) link
It was a university challenge question - what makes up 68% of the mass of the universe and (theoretically?) causes the acceleration of its expansion. The second part gives it away but by then you're thrown by the reference to mass. They answered dark matter. Fwiw Wikipedia says its 68% of the energy.
― At Easter I had a fall. I don't know whether to laugh or cry (ledge), Friday, 23 July 2021 20:11 (two years ago) link
there is certainly no better answer to this question than "dark energy"
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 23 July 2021 21:49 (two years ago) link
I suspect there may be a better question to the answer though
― At Easter I had a fall. I don't know whether to laugh or cry (ledge), Saturday, 24 July 2021 07:41 (two years ago) link
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 24 July 2021 17:30 (two years ago) link
NASA's Parker Solar Probe plunged deep into the Sun's corona & passed directly through streamers of solar plasma. The view out the window was...staggering. https://t.co/LLy8fB2dmZ pic.twitter.com/4fWkHIgmlA— Corey S. Powell (@coreyspowell) December 15, 2021
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 15 December 2021 20:12 (two years ago) link
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, August 25, 2020 2:57 PM (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink
i sold it
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 15 December 2021 20:13 (two years ago) link
incredible video is that, just casually staring at the milky way whilst getting directly blasted by a solar flare.
― calzino, Wednesday, 15 December 2021 20:18 (two years ago) link
is that the view from bezos' cowboy hat?
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 15 December 2021 20:25 (two years ago) link
I saw it earlier through a Seán Doran RT, his twitter account is very good for hq enhanced Mars and Jupiter photos/vids.
― calzino, Wednesday, 15 December 2021 20:27 (two years ago) link
staring at the milky way whilst getting directly blasted by a solar flare yes!
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 15 December 2021 20:35 (two years ago) link
i bought a NAS― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, August 25, 2020 2:57 PM (one year ago) bookmarkflaglinki sold it― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 15 December 2021 20:13 (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 15 December 2021 20:13 (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
i hope my girlfriend don't mind it
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 16 December 2021 13:27 (two years ago) link
― caek, Wednesday, March 3, 2010 8:14 AM (eleven years ago) bookmarkflaglink
― lukas, Tuesday, 4 January 2022 03:38 (two years ago) link
"Oh noes, we forgot to take off the lens cap!"
― nickn, Tuesday, 4 January 2022 03:49 (two years ago) link
lol "a few years". i'm not sure how late it actually ended up. five years?
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 4 January 2022 03:56 (two years ago) link
Originally planned to launch 2007, then in 2005 they pushed out to 2013.
― lukas, Tuesday, 4 January 2022 04:06 (two years ago) link
christ
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 4 January 2022 04:07 (two years ago) link
yup, but a lag of 15 years wouldn't even register on a geologic time scale
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 4 January 2022 04:14 (two years ago) link
Fuck, the mirror is foggy. I repeat, the mirror is foggy. Mission failure.
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 4 January 2022 15:37 (two years ago) link
we're 3-4 months away from knowing if it all works iirc
― StanM, Tuesday, 4 January 2022 16:32 (two years ago) link
camera pans up to reveal a giant eye staring into the telescope
― i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Friday, 7 January 2022 02:40 (two years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdfUSNzc0Xk
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 8 February 2022 16:36 (two years ago) link
was looking for a more detailed story about the one of the early engineering images from JWST and ended up on phys.org. good site!
two delightful stories
https://phys.org/news/2022-03-gaia-snaps-photo-webb-l2.htmlhttps://phys.org/news/2022-03-asteroid-impact.html
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 20 March 2022 18:08 (two years ago) link
Gaia snaps photo of Webb at L2
best spacecraft friends
maybe not useful for caek, but the sixty symbols youtube channel did just post a little bit of discussion about the calibration image.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zbj8pMfK9Ek
― circles, Sunday, 20 March 2022 20:41 (two years ago) link
I wrote a paper with that guy!
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 20 March 2022 21:04 (two years ago) link
cool! i had wondered if he was someone you'd run into before
― circles, Sunday, 20 March 2022 21:36 (two years ago) link
good livestream
At their worst, the Nautilus dive streams are fascinating. At their best, you watch new species being discovered live. Particularly recommended if you enjoy space launches. https://t.co/VcjPcWKmCT— Charlie Loyd (@vruba) March 23, 2022
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 23 March 2022 21:44 (two years ago) link
hi caek, nice corner!
feel free to ignore any or all of this, which starts the chilling words, "i have a comment and then a question"
the comment is that the james webb telescope ("the webb?" <-- a question inside the comment) has helped me understand, more concretely, some familiar old ideas about relativity and time travel in a more concrete way. i've understood that the light that we see from distant objects like stars are images of a previous time, since the light emitted has to travel for years (a "light year", if i may coin a phrase) before it reaches us. but i never really thought about the ramifications of capturing the light of more distant stars than ever before. it's just "light" but it's also an image of the distant, distant past.
that got me thinking (yes this is still the comment - i am seriously replicating a real life "comment and then a question") about what it means to travel along the path of that light, back toward the origin of the star, realizing that in a way it would be like accelerating into the past. if you stood on earth and received the light at normal speed (light speed), you experience the past of that distant star at a steady, human/earth rate. but when you begin to travel into the light, your experience of their past happens more rapidly - it's all in there, it's just more compressed (?). and that, if you could travel against the light quickly enough, you experience all of the billions of years of its history in the time that it takes you to travel from earth to the star.
and then (comment!), in the other direction, that you could could effectively freeze one's experience of time by "riding along" the path of the distant star's light at the exact same speed, always seeing it in the same way. and that in a sense you could "reverse" time if you could move even faster than the speed of light, and traveled back to an earlier form of the light/image. it's cool that the images from the webb make that kind of idea of more understandable and real (at least to me).
*loud booing from a 4th year grad student*---alright alright so here's my question! jfc.
all of that got me thinking about where the origin of the big bang is supposed to be, and how seeing more distant stars could help us understand our own galaxy's position in the universe. i've had the idea that the big bang is in the "middle", with matter generally heading outward ever since. that might be wrong in itself, i don't know. [coughs directly into mic, saliva sounds]. would the webb's ability to see farther than ever before provide additional data about the previous celestial coordinates/paths of existing stars/objects that we already knew about? is it possible to "see" that an existing galaxy briefly obscured another galaxy or affected its gravity/path at some point in the past?
i don't know, you can disregard and ad lib freely, i'll take my answer off the air, thank u caek
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 30 March 2022 17:59 (two years ago) link
"if you could travel against the light quickly enough, you experience all of the billions of years of its history in the time that it takes you to travel from earth to the star."
"effectively freeze one's experience of time by "riding along" the path of the distant star's light at the exact same speed, always seeing it in the same way."
these things are not possible, because, however fast you go, in whatever direction, light travels at the speed of light relative to you. that's special relativity baby.
"the webb's ability to see farther than ever before"
i think you're a bit confused about the way in which it is true. imagine a sailing boat. the webb telescope doesn't see further by moving the horizon away from us. things still drop below the horizon when they drop below the horizon. the webb allows us to see further by having better eyesight. i.e. at a given distance, the webb can see fainter things than existing space telescopes. in the case of telescopes, the horizon is set by the speed of light. it is essentially the speed of light x the age of the universe away from us. no innovations in telescope design will ever change this.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 30 March 2022 18:51 (two years ago) link
if I may throw some of my thoughts in the air herewhat we see is long gone - it either doesn't exist anymore or it's far away from where the light started its travels (point at the Sun: you're wrong, you're pointing at where it was 8 minutes ago)the big bang happened everywhere. the whole universe was there when it happened. (/it's still happening)
― StanM, Wednesday, 30 March 2022 18:57 (two years ago) link
thanks caek!
i do want to say that for a brief time, i felt like i could barely understand time travel and how it might work, and in that moment i was standing on the shoulders of nincompoops
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 30 March 2022 19:12 (two years ago) link
Time does slow down for you the faster you travel though (i.e. In your subjective experience, external events speed up). This is the probably the second easiest way to travel forward in time, the first being cryogenic freezing (pending first successful thawing of human subject).
― ledge, Wednesday, 30 March 2022 19:24 (two years ago) link
Time does slow down for you the faster you travel though
This is definitely true in Nebraska
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 30 March 2022 19:27 (two years ago) link
but the very easiest way of all to travel forward in time is to do nothing special at all and just let it happen
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 30 March 2022 19:30 (two years ago) link
I knew i should have specified faster than one second per second.
― ledge, Wednesday, 30 March 2022 19:31 (two years ago) link
faster than one second per second
but cryogenic freezing doesn't alter the pace of time itself; it merely suspends one's perception of its passage even as time galumphs along at its normal rate.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 30 March 2022 19:35 (two years ago) link
If I pass through a wormhole or race off and back at light speed or accidentally fall into a cryogenic freezer, what's the difference when I appear/arrive/wake up in the year 3000?
― ledge, Wednesday, 30 March 2022 20:11 (two years ago) link
there is no difference in your perceptions, but there is a major difference in the physics
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 30 March 2022 20:17 (two years ago) link
first of all, techno
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 30 March 2022 20:17 (two years ago) link
i hold that the techno would be extremely different and immediate
besides that, energy lasers have replaced bullets, every door requires a digital key card, and your name is cobra19
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 30 March 2022 20:18 (two years ago) link
cobra19? What is this, the 2500s?
― ledge, Wednesday, 30 March 2022 20:23 (two years ago) link
haha, otm it's true
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 30 March 2022 21:05 (two years ago) link
iirc if you can hit warp 10 you will experience being everywhere all at once, but then you turn into a lizard
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 30 March 2022 21:20 (two years ago) link
The W boson appears to be heavier than expected:https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abm0101
― StanM, Friday, 8 April 2022 23:40 (two years ago) link
Yeah I've seen skepticism on this from people who know more than me, gonna need a ruling from caek.
― brisk money (lukas), Saturday, 9 April 2022 01:48 (two years ago) link
Not my area at all but here’s a couple of posts on it by reliable scientists https://telescoper.wordpress.com/2022/04/09/massive-excitement/https://profmattstrassler.com/2022/04/08/a-few-remarks-on-the-w-boson-mass-measurement/
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 9 April 2022 14:39 (two years ago) link
oh! thanks!
― StanM, Saturday, 9 April 2022 14:43 (two years ago) link
The James Webb Space Telescope analysing sound from the heart of the galaxy is amazing. I had no idea this was possible(film courtesy of NASA) pic.twitter.com/mrOQ0LnlB6— Chris (@justachrisaway) March 29, 2022
― the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Tuesday, 10 May 2022 02:17 (one year ago) link
https://www.npr.org/2022/05/12/1098472567/image-black-hole-milky-way?t=1652362048265
https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2022/05/12/black-hole-milky-way-bb0124cb43ed0a77533657759baa424f5d5fce7c-s800-c85.webp
― StanM, Thursday, 12 May 2022 13:27 (one year ago) link
itt: stanm posts hole
― balsamic vaccinegar of moderna (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 12 May 2022 13:50 (one year ago) link
pictured: the day after spicy food
― StanM, Thursday, 12 May 2022 13:52 (one year ago) link
how many billions of years do I have to wait before I'm pulled into the giant black hole?
make it now, please
― mh, Thursday, 12 May 2022 14:21 (one year ago) link
dynamically extremely difficult for anything other than dust and gas to get pulled into a black hole, sorry for your loss.
you might get lucky when we collide with andromeda in 5bn years, but both galaxies are almost entirely empty space, so probably not.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 12 May 2022 17:08 (one year ago) link
i can wait
― towards fungal computer (harbl), Thursday, 12 May 2022 19:01 (one year ago) link
fun fact: you could easily fit all the other planets in the gap between the earth and the moon.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 12 May 2022 19:03 (one year ago) link
cannot stress enough how empty space is.
Andromeda, the closest galaxy, is 2.5 million light years away. 2.5 million years ago, the first homo habilis started to evolve. If humans could travel at the speed of light (in stasis, I suppose), look around a bit, make friends with some andromedans and then come back, what species would they report to, 5 million years in the future? (if they managed to find the solar system and Earth again and something was still alive here, that is).And that is our closest neighbouring galaxy, remember.there's a lot of space in space.
― StanM, Thursday, 12 May 2022 19:48 (one year ago) link
[cue Hawkwind's "Space Is Deep"]
― nickn, Friday, 13 May 2022 03:45 (one year ago) link
dust and gas
ease yourself intoa body bag
― mookieproof, Friday, 13 May 2022 03:52 (one year ago) link
A perspective view on Jupiter with artificial vertical relief applied. Processed using @NASAJuno imagery from Perijove 26https://t.co/5EVEk1zX8c pic.twitter.com/N5qlmYLCwT— Kevin M. Gill (@kevinmgill) August 20, 2020
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 1 July 2022 04:20 (one year ago) link
beautiful!
― StanM, Friday, 1 July 2022 04:40 (one year ago) link
no.
― mookieproof, Friday, 1 July 2022 04:55 (one year ago) link
uh oh, downvotes for Jupiter
― StanM, Friday, 1 July 2022 05:31 (one year ago) link
"Upset stomach? Try Pepto Bismol."
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 July 2022 14:53 (one year ago) link
*hiccup*
I stand with mookie
― mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Saturday, 2 July 2022 04:43 (one year ago) link
jwst about to do it
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 11 July 2022 21:30 (one year ago) link
https://www.nasa.gov/nasalivehttps://www.nasa.gov/webbfirstimages
https://stsci-opo.org/STScI-01GFRYYRTCTMX197BY86MBFCR9.png
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 28 October 2022 16:12 (one year ago) link
that's where Tar Trek happens
― | (Latham Green), Friday, 28 October 2022 17:33 (one year ago) link
damn whut
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 28 October 2022 20:29 (one year ago) link
https://webbtelescope.org/contents/media/images/2022/053/01GFRYSFM89AFADVAA0W625BSB?news=true
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 28 October 2022 20:35 (one year ago) link
caek, would you be trying to submit propopsals for using jwst if you were still doing astronomy research, or would that not be especially relevant to the research you did/too much of a hassle/unlikely to succeed given jwst's priorites/etc.?
― circles, Saturday, 29 October 2022 15:09 (one year ago) link
you're right that generally you use ground telescopes if possible, because getting time on them is less competitive. ground data was usually fine for my research area. i only used archival hubble data a couple of times, and never actually applied for new observations.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 29 October 2022 20:21 (one year ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FgQuVotWQAQ_biQ?format=jpg&name=medium
I get that space is fucking huuuge but what I find most startling about this scaling here is not how big "the pillars of creation" is, it's how big the oort cloud is that I find most mind boggling. Like how can a humble medium sized star exert such an enormous field of gravitational influence? Not really a question but wtf!
― calzino, Monday, 31 October 2022 00:13 (one year ago) link
Because space is so so empty I guess, there are no other stars near the Oort cloud objects so the sun wins by default.
― assert (matttkkkk), Monday, 31 October 2022 02:32 (one year ago) link
Right. Gravity is an incredibly weak force. It falls with distance squared so it’s tiny at the distance of the Oort Cloud. But it’s the only game in town.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 31 October 2022 03:39 (one year ago) link
was reading abou t this in a Carl Sagan book
https://www.centauri-dreams.org/2010/11/15/a-focal-mission-into-the-oort-cloud/
― | (Latham Green), Monday, 31 October 2022 16:14 (one year ago) link
an incredibly weak force
stop
also someone tell me where proxima centauri's oort cloud is on that graph
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 02:49 (one year ago) link
gravity gets so much respect because it was the first 'invisible' force that was detected and quantified and also because we instinctively respect massive objects like stars and planets more than subatomic particles
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 03:03 (one year ago) link
"also someone tell me where proxima centauri's oort cloud is on that graph"
Proxima Centauri is a red dwarf star with a mass about 12.5% of the Sun's mass
I'd guess not very far at all, but also simultaneously much further than you'd expect!
― calzino, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 03:23 (one year ago) link
awesome
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 03:24 (one year ago) link
i looked this up. apparently we have never observed an oort cloud around another star system, but based on what we know about how the one around the sun formed we would expect many/most stars to have one. given ours gets half way to proxima centauri it's not out of the question they overlap if PC does have one.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 03:31 (one year ago) link
oort fite!
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 04:50 (one year ago) link
Andoortagain
― Regex Dwight (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 04:54 (one year ago) link
thoughts on this?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropic_gravity
― | (Latham Green), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 12:54 (one year ago) link
Never heard of it. Looks clever in the best and worst ways.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 14:51 (one year ago) link
write a better lede
https://www.science.org/content/article/near-disaster-federal-nuclear-weapons-laboratory-takes-hidden-toll-america-s-arsenal
Technicians at the government's Los Alamos National Laboratory settled on what seemed like a surefire way to win praise from their bosses in August 2011: In a hi-tech testing and manufacturing building pivotal to sustaining America's nuclear arsenal, they gathered eight rods painstakingly crafted out of plutonium, and positioned them side-by-side on a table to photograph how nice they looked.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 7 December 2022 17:23 (one year ago) link
it can't be done
Homer Simpson on the job
― | (Latham Green), Wednesday, 7 December 2022 17:35 (one year ago) link
pics or it didn't happen
― “Cheeky cheeky!” she trills, nearly demolishing a roadside post (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 7 December 2022 18:29 (one year ago) link
There are pics in the article
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Thursday, 8 December 2022 00:35 (one year ago) link
https://frinkiac.com/video/S05E03/99U3CK0l_3KajDa3RTOkLp_iB00=.gif
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 8 December 2022 04:05 (one year ago) link
terrifying story, astonishing that intelliegent and qualified people can get so lax around that stuff. not all bad news though, "undermining the nation's ability to fabricate the cores of new nuclear weapons" oh no.
― ledge, Thursday, 8 December 2022 08:04 (one year ago) link
maybe sterilize the galaxy
Now at 140% of my usual brightness! #Betelgeuse pic.twitter.com/pi9BPLijtj— Betelgeuse Status (@betelbot) April 24, 2023
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 19:26 (one year ago) link
yesss
Now at 156% of my usual brightness! #Betelgeuse pic.twitter.com/rs527QaW1m— Betelgeuse Status (@betelbot) April 27, 2023
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 27 April 2023 21:30 (one year ago) link
is this just observing the increased brightness from what has already occurred at some point in the middle ages? it's all way too too big.
― calzino, Thursday, 27 April 2023 21:44 (one year ago) link
yeah if it went supernova it happend ~500 years ago, done deal
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 27 April 2023 21:49 (one year ago) link
It'll probably go off while it's hidden by the sun, ruining any chance of seeing the show.
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Friday, 28 April 2023 00:16 (one year ago) link
what if it turns us all into piles of salt
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 28 April 2023 00:27 (one year ago) link
nice to think about
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 28 April 2023 16:41 (one year ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kya_LXa_y1E
i remember you saying exactly this about 15 years ago lol
― imago, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 07:56 (eleven months ago) link
oh wait it's in this thread lol. 13 years
― imago, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 07:58 (eleven months ago) link
there is an AMSR quality to listening to true believer physicists talking bout string theory. You know u don't need to engage with the science because u know it's ludicrous nonsense, so it does have a relaxing quality for me during bouts of insomnia!
― calzino, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 08:18 (eleven months ago) link
the dolorous priests of string theory!
― imago, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 08:22 (eleven months ago) link
perhaps not a very scientifically nuanced take - but it sure does feel like they were just making this shit up as they went along!
― calzino, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 08:28 (eleven months ago) link
they definitely had some gaps to fill with uh portentous speculation
― imago, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 08:37 (eleven months ago) link
hawking started this.
― caek, Thursday, March 4, 2010 10:03 AM (thirteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink
lmao
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 16:27 (eleven months ago) link
hawking started this. bitcoin fixes this.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 16:28 (eleven months ago) link
if you have time for a 1000 pager then this is canon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Making_of_the_Atomic_Bomb
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 16:29 (eleven months ago) link
string theory is when you just want more dimensions and i do
― mark s, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 16:53 (eleven months ago) link
wasn't it something like the existence of 26 dimensions they theorised? lol is that enough for you!
― calzino, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 16:57 (eleven months ago) link
wait till you hear about hilbert spaces
― ledge, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 16:58 (eleven months ago) link
I'd have theorised about 36 dimensions because it's a beautiful number
― calzino, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 17:00 (eleven months ago) link
the right idea on >= 4 dimensions
I'm laughing so hard at this slide a friend sent me from one of Geoff Hinton's courses;"To deal with hyper-planes in a 14-dimensional space, visualize a 3-D space and say 'fourteen' to yourself very loudly. Everyone does it." pic.twitter.com/nTakZArbsD— Robbie Barrat (@videodrome) June 10, 2018
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 17:03 (eleven months ago) link
that's why we need more of them
― mark s, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 17:07 (eleven months ago) link
I have a buddy that talks about the 'multiverse' being a probability rather than a possibility
it's great if you're a screenwriter but c'mon man
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 17:12 (eleven months ago) link
the observable physical universe, or at least the current understanding of it, just isn't overawing and huge enough for some people - they want more!
― calzino, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 18:20 (eleven months ago) link
Here is a thing that I have read and that I am not sure I believe: If you accept that more than one universe exists, you are almost inexorably drawn to the conclusion that an infinite number of them exist. With all the extant possibilities.
The reasoning goes that there is no logical boundary short of infinity. Like, if the total number is 52, one might ask, "why not 51 or 53?" Arbitraryness creeps in.
Hence, the suspicion that the number is either one, or infinite.
Personally I see no reason why the answer can't be 3 or 47 or 576.
The universe has no obligation to make sense to us.
― Landfill Collins (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 18:31 (eleven months ago) link
sure (but no way it's 3 ffs)
also tbh the multiverse is a different thing than dimensions
― mark s, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 18:45 (eleven months ago) link
Mark s what is your beef with the tripleverse
― Landfill Collins (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 18:47 (eleven months ago) link
sucky number, get rid
― mark s, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 18:50 (eleven months ago) link
I'd like to think we're in one of the posher universes, instead of the dumpy, cold, sandy ones
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 19:12 (eleven months ago) link
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_one_infinity_rule
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 19:15 (eleven months ago) link
as many universes as gecs
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 19:35 (eleven months ago) link
so there's no set limit to the number of universes but rather it's limited to the capacity of the servers these universes are running on
― silverfish, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 19:38 (eleven months ago) link
Hey trinities are ok
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8lRKCw2_Pk
The past and the present and the future
Big daddy, son, and spook
Peter, Paul, and Mary
RGB
Etc.
Etc
― Landfill Collins (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 19:43 (eleven months ago) link
betelgeuse has now gone from the night sky (i.e. it's in the direction of the sun) for the next six months, so if it's still getting brighter we have no way of knowing.
this did happen tho https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SN_2023ixf
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 25 May 2023 06:56 (eleven months ago) link
when come back bring superpie
― mark s, Thursday, 25 May 2023 08:31 (eleven months ago) link
Good thread https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/tz/2023-December/033318.html
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 20 December 2023 04:23 (four months ago) link
good galaxies https://www.esa.int/Science_Exploration/Space_Science/Webb/Webb_reveals_structure_in_19_spiral_galaxies
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 31 January 2024 17:55 (three months ago) link
What does this mean? this doesn't make sense
Skyscraper-sized asteroid to pass within 1.7m miles of Earth on Friday
An asteroid as big as a skyscraper will pass within 1.7m miles (2.7mkm) of Earth on Friday.
Don’t worry: there’s no chance of it hitting us since it will miss our planet by seven times the distance from the Earth to the moon.
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 1 February 2024 18:05 (two months ago) link
what doesn't make sense about it?
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 1 February 2024 18:25 (two months ago) link
presumably the m in 1.7m is for million
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 1 February 2024 18:58 (two months ago) link
(I skimmed at first and thought it said "1.7 miles" so maybe Andy did too)
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 1 February 2024 18:59 (two months ago) link
it's 1.7 millimiles, i.e. about 8 feet.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 1 February 2024 19:11 (two months ago) link
well that seems a little too close
― gbx, Thursday, 1 February 2024 19:38 (two months ago) link
Yeah, I thought it was less than two miles... I was hoping to go out and watch it pass over the neighborhood
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 1 February 2024 19:54 (two months ago) link
In terms of interplanetary space 1.7 million miles is just a skip and a jump away.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 1 February 2024 19:57 (two months ago) link
the James Webb telescope spotted a drunk riding on it, so it might swerve closer
https://www.blog.lepetitprince.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/buveur.jpg
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 1 February 2024 20:00 (two months ago) link
Dessin-moi un mouton
― Washington Post Malone (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 1 February 2024 20:40 (two months ago) link
gbx!
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 2 February 2024 03:40 (two months ago) link
hey whats up
― gbx, Friday, 2 February 2024 15:00 (two months ago) link
good to see you! hope you are well!
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 2 February 2024 17:50 (two months ago) link
thanks man! likewise!
any new space facts i should know
― gbx, Friday, 2 February 2024 18:15 (two months ago) link
nah it's pretty much over
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 2 February 2024 18:58 (two months ago) link
whew!
― gbx, Friday, 2 February 2024 20:25 (two months ago) link