example of the former:
1. "some burger toppings" are not "slaws," at least at any cookout i've been to. i would be shocked if handed a burger outfitted with "slaws."
example of latter:
1. susan dey2. lori petty
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 00:08 (8 years ago) Permalink
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― andy --, Tuesday, 29 March 2005 00:29 (8 years ago) Permalink
lori petty was in yesterday's i think
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 00:30 (8 years ago) Permalink
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― Ferlin Husky (noodle vague), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 00:48 (8 years ago) Permalink
Of course, I never got around to it.
― Aaron W (Aaron W), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 00:54 (8 years ago) Permalink
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― Remy (x Jeremy), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 01:11 (8 years ago) Permalink
― Curious George Finds the Ether Bottle (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 01:31 (8 years ago) Permalink
BASTARDS!
― Austin S (Austin, Still), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 01:35 (8 years ago) Permalink
the new york times crossword is NOT "cryptic" in the way that UK ones are, it's a synonym puzzle, and it's very strictly constructed, essentially each clue could replace its answer in a sentence and still be grammatically correct
one could draw inferences about cultural differences represented by these respective x-word hegemonies and possibly parlay it into a tiresome article for the nyt magazine, or an actually interesting one for the guardian
the nation used to run a cryptic crossword on its back page, i suspect it still does.
we could also talk about what kind of person the nytimes crossword imagines its solvers to be, and complain about that, which would delight me
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 02:13 (8 years ago) Permalink
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― Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 02:24 (8 years ago) Permalink
I've never gotten even half of a Saturday puzzle.
Is it also true that the puzzles increase in difficulty as the month progresses?
― mte22 (mte22), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 03:35 (8 years ago) Permalink
― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 03:44 (8 years ago) Permalink
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 04:28 (8 years ago) Permalink
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 04:31 (8 years ago) Permalink
The Atlantic Monthly (right? not Harper's?) runs cryptics by Ravathon and Cox, who are hands-down the best cruciverbalists in this country.
I've never heard anyone talk about them getting harder as a month progresses, though. What do you do when the end of a month is on a Tuesday? Seems like madness.
I can do Saturdays about 33% of the time but it takes a few hours and usually a breather in between solving attempts. I am bringing some for my x-country train trip tomorrow.
― Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 07:34 (8 years ago) Permalink
Did they want the correct letter Ø in the answer?
― OleM (OleM), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 09:12 (8 years ago) Permalink
― Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 11:20 (8 years ago) Permalink
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― Curious George Finds the Ether Bottle (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 12:24 (8 years ago) Permalink
― mte22 (mte22), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 14:05 (8 years ago) Permalink
You know, last I checked the NY Sun had a really good puzzle. Lots of well-known constructors. I've bought some of the collections.
OK, here's something.
― Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 14:50 (8 years ago) Permalink
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― Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 15:58 (8 years ago) Permalink
WAAAAAAH!
― Austin S (Austin, Still), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 17:07 (8 years ago) Permalink
Tracer: I'll complain that the Sundays are surprisingly boring and tedious considering their fame.
― Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 18:50 (8 years ago) Permalink
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― Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 18:52 (8 years ago) Permalink
Saturday's NYT puzzle is really the hardest for me, because the answers are longer words. I can do it maybe 50% of the time. Monday-Thursday I can almost always solve, Friday about 70%. Sunday takes longer, but I can usually do it easier than Saturday's.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 20:10 (8 years ago) Permalink
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― mookieproof (mookieproof), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 07:16 (8 years ago) Permalink
My complaints for this week are: "dais" twice in a row, with practically the same clue, what's next, "microphone's environs"?
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 2 May 2005 05:26 (8 years ago) Permalink
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― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 17 March 2006 15:12 (7 years ago) Permalink
I catch this thread a year after the fact, and wowee: I totally remember this one! I really enjoyed it! One of those dramatic Thursdays where figuring out the theme opens up a whole new world. It's like the moment in action movies where the hero's getting his ass kicked by an unstoppable creature and then suddenly the geek calls in and says "it's fire, he's only vulnerable to fire," and then the hero turns around all refreshed and lays his smack down.
― nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 17 March 2006 16:04 (7 years ago) Permalink
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― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 17 March 2006 18:37 (7 years ago) Permalink
plus did the circled spaces actually spell anything? i feel like there was something i was missing
― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 12:54 (7 years ago) Permalink
the circles were "crossings", as in down-clue crossing the across-clue (or vice versa, I forget).
― patita (patita), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 16:55 (7 years ago) Permalink
― jergins (jergins), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 17:30 (7 years ago) Permalink
"columbus" was the first of those that i got, and i was all like "aha! columbus circle!" but no. i liked that. but then the circles proved to mean 0. i even took the circled letters and tried to anagramatize them, but they make nothing.
i obv thought "tee" at first, but then that makes the clue that goes through it "Big Eest" .. "Big East", surely?
― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 17:46 (7 years ago) Permalink
WTF, Shortz?
― nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 16:14 (6 years ago) Permalink
Am I the only one who's a bit skeptical about this?
― nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 16:17 (6 years ago) Permalink
― jim wentworth (wench), Thursday, 27 July 2006 00:04 (6 years ago) Permalink
― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 27 July 2006 00:14 (6 years ago) Permalink
― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Thursday, 27 July 2006 00:15 (6 years ago) Permalink
― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 27 July 2006 00:24 (6 years ago) Permalink
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― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Thursday, 27 July 2006 00:27 (6 years ago) Permalink
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― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 22 September 2006 01:05 (6 years ago) Permalink
SLAWS may be the funniest word.
― Abbott, Friday, 4 April 2008 02:13 (5 years ago) Permalink
The Nintendo DS NTY Xword game is pretty sweet bcz you can have a friend (w/no cartridge even!) share a game & you solve the crossword together, each collaborating on yr own DS's screen. So much better than trying to arm in over each others' arms and omelettes and coffee while mutually solving.
― Abbott, Friday, 4 April 2008 02:14 (5 years ago) Permalink
Some of my favorite times have been tackling the xword with friends at a diner.
― Abbott, Friday, 4 April 2008 02:15 (5 years ago) Permalink
that "slaws" clue STILL has the power to bother me. more than three years later
i finally had coleslaw on a burger, yesterday - it was great - but no matter how many bowls of different peoples' coleslaw was out there, it would all just be "slaw"
the plural of "slaw", in other words, is "slaw"
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 27 May 2008 21:13 (4 years ago) Permalink
Not if you had multiple kinds of slaw.
― Hurting 2, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 02:28 (4 years ago) Permalink
Hurting otm
― Rock Hardy, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 02:51 (4 years ago) Permalink
No, different kinds of slaw results in "slaw", you can trust me on this
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 04:13 (4 years ago) Permalink
slawz
― jhøshea, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 04:15 (4 years ago) Permalink
slols
― Abbott, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 04:17 (4 years ago) Permalink
slaws are made 2 be broken
― deeznuts, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 04:17 (4 years ago) Permalink
fwiw tracer i have been trying to figure out what they mustve actually meant myself for like 5 minutes now
― deeznuts, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 04:19 (4 years ago) Permalink
If you were at a slaw tasting, you would be asked "Which of the slaws do you like best?" not "Which of the SLAW do you like best?"
― Hurting 2, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 04:20 (4 years ago) Permalink
"which slaw do you like the best"
he is correct imo
― deeznuts, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 04:20 (4 years ago) Permalink
BTW, did you know that "coleslaw" literally means "curly slave" in German?
― Hurting 2, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 04:22 (4 years ago) Permalink
if i was at a slaw tasting i'd look out over the long rows of tables, all laden with heaped platters of vinegary cabbage, and say softly to myself in awe, "that's a lot of slaw"
xpost: no, that is fantastic
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 04:23 (4 years ago) Permalink
no, I made that up
― Hurting 2, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 04:24 (4 years ago) Permalink
'Ah done reckon I'm hanckerin' for a slaw somrgasbord yee haw rootin' tootin' frick frackin' slinga-ling-dongin' hogwarshed guldurned rabbit!"
― Abbott, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 04:25 (4 years ago) Permalink
*shoots air; ground*
― Abbott, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 04:26 (4 years ago) Permalink
Hurting 2 why you braek hart
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 04:28 (4 years ago) Permalink
"If ain't ate all them type'a slaw, I'ma bury myself alive in a goldigger's grave, by great saint scott peter's ghost I tell ya all my ratta-tattin-fracka-lackin'-grabba-grubbin' cowlicked brown-eyed days!"
― Abbott, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 04:28 (4 years ago) Permalink
"Rabbit!"
alan braxe should be in more crosswords
It does kind of sound like it should mean that. But it derives from a word for cabbage, apparently.
― Hurting 2, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 04:28 (4 years ago) Permalink
diamanda galas
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 04:29 (4 years ago) Permalink
haha the wire needs to start a crossword puzzle on the back page!!
"Rocker Galas"
― Abbott, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 04:30 (4 years ago) Permalink
Eno, Bowie and Cale all seem like good crossword names
― Hurting 2, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 04:30 (4 years ago) Permalink
the wire crossword puzzle hints and answers
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 04:32 (4 years ago) Permalink
This goes COMPLETELY against the spirit of this thread, but ...
... am I the only person here who both did the NYT crossword and watched the Simpsons yesterday??? That seriously tripped me out!
― nabisco, Monday, 17 November 2008 19:32 (4 years ago) Permalink
wha happen???
― ice cr?m, Monday, 17 November 2008 19:35 (4 years ago) Permalink
I'm really glad I didn't see any news of this before it happened, because I was actually sitting on the couch doing the Sunday crossword while watching the Simpsons:
Lisa gets into crossword puzzles and enters a competition. Homer makes a bundle betting on her but then bets against her in the final competition, which she loses to Gil. Lisa finds out Homer bet against her and is outraged.
But then in the end Homer apologizes through the NYT crossword puzzle, the one I'm sitting there working on, which turns out to have not only a diagonal message (something like "DADDY SORRY FOR DUMB BET") but also the first letters of all the clues spell out a long message from Homer to Lisa!
― nabisco, Monday, 17 November 2008 19:41 (4 years ago) Permalink
Will Shortz was on the Simpsons
― gabbneb, Monday, 17 November 2008 19:42 (4 years ago) Permalink
and Burns and Smithers "appeared" on the puzzle segment on Sunday Weekend Edition on NPR
― gabbneb, Monday, 17 November 2008 19:43 (4 years ago) Permalink
ha! :)
― ice cr?m, Monday, 17 November 2008 19:43 (4 years ago) Permalink
I'm not in the habit of doing the Sunday NYT, since I only sporadically buy the paper, but there was buzz about this week's on the Cruciverb listserv because of the Simpsons tie-in, so I subscribed online last night. I watched the show first, though, so I had some freebie fills.
― jaymc, Monday, 17 November 2008 19:46 (4 years ago) Permalink
I had zero idea it was going to happen. It was a little bit scary, actually. Like "did I eat mushrooms and forget about it" scary.
(Although I had been thinking earlier in the episode that there were a whole lot of puzzles appearing, and obviously the artists weren't going to construct puzzles for background art, so surely they had some kind of partnership going with someone to use their puzzles...)
― nabisco, Monday, 17 November 2008 20:22 (4 years ago) Permalink
There were a couple of times in the episode where there were quick shots of puzzles that appeared to violate crossword rules -- e.g., two-letter words, letters that only went in one direction, etc. Whenever a whole puzzle was on display for more than a couple of seconds, it was usually fine, but I was surprised that the others existed at all, considering Merl Reagle was credited as a consultant.
― jaymc, Monday, 17 November 2008 20:34 (4 years ago) Permalink
Merl Reagle explains how the episode came about (not sure why it's a PDF):http://www.sundaycrosswords.com/TheSimpsonsBehindtheScenes.pdf
― jaymc, Monday, 17 November 2008 20:40 (4 years ago) Permalink
That is mindblowing!
― Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 17 November 2008 23:40 (4 years ago) Permalink
20-across otm lolololololol
― the dan glickman from the hilarious motion picture association of america (max), Tuesday, 18 November 2008 12:47 (4 years ago) Permalink
How come the NY Times Crossword doesn't have an iPhone app yet :/
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 14:55 (4 years ago) Permalink
(...he said, pretending he's smart enough to do the NY Times crossword)
Jaymc, do a brother a favor and send me the .puz file, unless it's floating about the internets.
― Casuistry, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 14:58 (4 years ago) Permalink
there are plenty of crossword apps that allow you to download times puzzles, you just need a subscription
― the dan glickman from the hilarious motion picture association of america (max), Tuesday, 18 November 2008 14:58 (4 years ago) Permalink
i have a pretty lame crossword app right now
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 15:01 (4 years ago) Permalink
its all numbers and there's no clues.
thats called "sudoku"
― the dan glickman from the hilarious motion picture association of america (max), Tuesday, 18 November 2008 15:02 (4 years ago) Permalink
E-mailed you, Casuistry.
― jaymc, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 16:51 (4 years ago) Permalink
When Yma Sumac died I felt that the NYT should have run just a blank square in place of the puzzle as a lifetime tribute.
As for "slaws," it's a long-standing NYT policy to reserve the right to pluralize anything & everything. Even personal names might get pluralized, like "OBAMAS." Foreign words sometimes get pluralized in a way that doesn't correspond to how they get pluralized in their own language, as in "RAVIOLIS," for example.
And yes, Brian ENO gets clued all the damn time in the NYT puzzle. So does ELO.
― Josefa, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 17:09 (4 years ago) Permalink
ENOS
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 17:38 (4 years ago) Permalink
thanks for that info josefa, i never knew that
Ha, my first thought when she died (after "Yma Sumac was still alive?") was "I bet the crossword community will be all over this news" -- and they were.
Even personal names might get pluralized, like "OBAMAS."
This makes sense, because it can be clued as "Barack and Michelle." If you pluralize personal names, it's preferable that there are at least two recognizable people that share that name. But if that's not the case, you can still sometimes get away with a clue like "Pres. Barack and others" or "Barack's family."
And yes, Brian ENO gets clued all the damn time in the NYT puzzle.
Sometimes his brother Roger gets clued instead (or alongside: "Ambient composers Brian and Roger"). I'm waiting for a reference to Spoon drummer Jim Eno, however.
― jaymc, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 17:46 (4 years ago) Permalink
the slaws of yesterday
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 18:26 (4 years ago) Permalink
why is no one loling at my joke
― :) Mrs Edward Cullen XD (max), Tuesday, 18 November 2008 18:30 (4 years ago) Permalink
― the dan glickman from the hilarious motion picture association of america (max), Tuesday, November 18, 2008 7:47 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
just looking for a satisfied chuckle as a subtle way of indicating u did the nyt xword today
― :) Mrs Edward Cullen XD (max), Tuesday, 18 November 2008 18:31 (4 years ago) Permalink
me too?
― some know what you dude last summer (Jordan), Tuesday, 18 November 2008 18:34 (4 years ago) Permalink
Oh, I thought you were referring to Sunday, and I was like, I don't get it.
― jaymc, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 18:55 (4 years ago) Permalink
Haha, I get it now.
― jaymc, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 18:56 (4 years ago) Permalink
Where can I see this solved Simpsons puzzle?
― Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Tuesday, 18 November 2008 18:59 (4 years ago) Permalink
I believe my 'simp' status precludes me from soling it.
(I tried to solve Friday's before therapy and my therapist and I had like an seven-minute talk about crosswords. Yes I have useful therapy.)
― Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Tuesday, 18 November 2008 19:01 (4 years ago) Permalink
Abbott, here is the solved puzzle. (No clues, though, just the completed grid.)
― jaymc, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 19:06 (4 years ago) Permalink
Discussion of same:http://crosswordfiend.blogspot.com/2008/11/sunday-1116.html
― jaymc, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 19:07 (4 years ago) Permalink
More discussion:http://rexwordpuzzle.blogspot.com/2008/11/sunday-nov-16-2008-merl-reagle-meshed.html
― jaymc, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 19:08 (4 years ago) Permalink
thx duder :D!
― Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Tuesday, 18 November 2008 19:10 (4 years ago) Permalink
so what's the second hidden message in the sunday puzzle?
― some know what you dude last summer (Jordan), Tuesday, 18 November 2008 19:53 (4 years ago) Permalink
― jaymc, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 20:02 (4 years ago) Permalink
oh right
― some know what you dude last summer (Jordan), Tuesday, 18 November 2008 20:12 (4 years ago) Permalink
i got your joke max
67 Across fucked me up today
― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 21:08 (4 years ago) Permalink
whatd you put, fdr?
― :) Mrs Edward Cullen XD (max), Tuesday, 18 November 2008 21:24 (4 years ago) Permalink
Yeah, "OBAMAS" was not a good example of what I mean. If I could try to explain it better, the NYT loves to indulge in creating what one might call metaplurals. This amounts to sticking an s on the end of any word and thus making a plural of the word itself rather than the thing the word represents. For example, take the following questions:
a. How many words are in my post?b. How many coulds are in my post?
In question (a) "words" is a normal plural. In question (b) "coulds" is a metaplural; it refers to nothing except the word "could" & is a plural that would almost never be used in common discourse. The NYT puzzle constructors use (in fact, often invent) these metaplurals all the time, which admittedly gets annoying.
― Josefa, Wednesday, 19 November 2008 00:14 (4 years ago) Permalink
yah--i wasn't thinking too clearly this a.m.
― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 19 November 2008 00:19 (4 years ago) Permalink
Josefa, what are you even talking about? I'm not going to say they never do that, but I don't think they're all that frequent, at least not under Shortz's editorship.
― Casuistry, Wednesday, 19 November 2008 01:57 (4 years ago) Permalink
with such a tightly regimented puzzle any frequency at all adds a new variable to consider
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 19 November 2008 02:00 (4 years ago) Permalink
new puzzle!
― max, Monday, 9 February 2009 17:09 (4 years ago) Permalink
"kenken"
― max, Monday, 9 February 2009 17:10 (4 years ago) Permalink
semi-hilarious article from will shortz explaining the new puzzle where he seems barely able to hide his disdain for sudoku--or looked at from another direction where he seems to be desperately trying to justify why the ny times never introduced sudoku
― max, Monday, 9 February 2009 17:11 (4 years ago) Permalink
"unlike sudoku, kenken requires arithmetic, you see, which makes it far superior, and more appropriate for the new york times reader"
― max, Monday, 9 February 2009 17:22 (4 years ago) Permalink
lol. i havent done it but it looks like that puzzle where you have to get each row and column as well as the diagonals to add a given sum i.e. like boring math work
― it amuses and intrigues throughout (Lamp), Monday, 9 February 2009 17:25 (4 years ago) Permalink
hasnt will shortz made serious $$$ out of sudoku? or am i thinking of someone else
― t_g, Monday, 9 February 2009 17:25 (4 years ago) Permalink
Never got into sudoku, but did the new example puzzles today and enjoyed them.
― lemmy tristano (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 9 February 2009 17:26 (4 years ago) Permalink
yeah he has made dough off sudoku--really im just writing shortz fanfic in my head
― max, Monday, 9 February 2009 17:29 (4 years ago) Permalink
i think the new puzzle is more interesting than sudoku but i guess its just geared a little more toward the way i think & process logic puzzles. still doesnt touch a good crossword.
― max, Monday, 9 February 2009 17:31 (4 years ago) Permalink
Nope. That reminds me, new Atlantic puzzle finally came out.
― lemmy tristano (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 9 February 2009 17:34 (4 years ago) Permalink
i still like sudoku but yah crossword is best
― it amuses and intrigues throughout (Lamp), Monday, 9 February 2009 17:43 (4 years ago) Permalink
Looks like WS put out some Kenken books last year.
― lemmy tristano (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 9 February 2009 17:47 (4 years ago) Permalink
I just did the first KenKen puzzle, 4x4. Pretty fun!
― I shall always respect my elders (Z S), Monday, 9 February 2009 18:27 (4 years ago) Permalink
The word puzzle goes in the Arts section; I think any numerical puzzles should really go in Science Times or Business Day
― nabisco, Monday, 9 February 2009 18:41 (4 years ago) Permalink
By the way, if anyone did the Thursday puzzle a few weeks back where certain squares were filled with the letters HEAD, what did you mark into those squares while working? Because I enjoyed drawing tiny little heads in there.
― nabisco, Monday, 9 February 2009 18:46 (4 years ago) Permalink
GEDDIT?
― i'm shy (Abbott), Monday, 9 February 2009 18:49 (4 years ago) Permalink
Its creator is kind of sexy:
― i'm shy (Abbott), Monday, 9 February 2009 18:50 (4 years ago) Permalink
ok in the spirit of the thread here is a complaint about kenken: it prevents me from folding my paper into a perfect rectangle a quarter of the original page size.
― max, Tuesday, 10 February 2009 15:12 (4 years ago) Permalink
My complaint is that I never until today heard the phrase "play hob with."
― lemmy tristano (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 10 February 2009 16:10 (4 years ago) Permalink
Yeah, some of the phrases are pretty outmoded. The other day the clue "wolves" yielded the answer "mashers." Has anyone been called a masher since 1930-something?
One that really pissed me off recently: clue = vacations, answer = RANDRS. Plural acronym!!! Rest and relaxations???
― Dan Peterson, Tuesday, 10 February 2009 16:33 (4 years ago) Permalink
holy shit -
http://rexwordpuzzle.blogspot.com/
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 10 February 2009 16:40 (4 years ago) Permalink
Both "masher" and "RandR" I learned in my youth from extensive watching of Bugs Bunny cartoons.
― lemmy tristano (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 10 February 2009 16:43 (4 years ago) Permalink
this is really common ny times style!
― max, Tuesday, 10 February 2009 16:58 (4 years ago) Permalink
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wabbit_Twouble
― lemmy tristano (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 10 February 2009 17:07 (4 years ago) Permalink
I've seen RANDR before, but don't recall RANDRS. As noted above, NYT often invents plurals. I'll leave it to any former military (or Bugs Bunny) as to whether they've ever used "we went on three r-and-r's last year" in a sentence.
― Dan Peterson, Tuesday, 10 February 2009 17:11 (4 years ago) Permalink
What are you holy-shitting about? That it exists? If you like Rex's blog, check out Diary of a Crossword Fiend, whose author does not only the NY Times every day, but also a half-dozen other papers and even more puzzles syndicated online or in nontraditional venues.
― Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Tuesday, 10 February 2009 17:12 (4 years ago) Permalink
i check rex's blog every sunday--if he says the sunday puzzle is easy or medium, i'll do it. otherwise, i won't bother
― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 10 February 2009 17:13 (4 years ago) Permalink
Ha, a couple times I've felt awesome about having solved a Wednesday fairly quickly and then found that Rex rated it uncommonly easy.
― Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Tuesday, 10 February 2009 17:16 (4 years ago) Permalink
i still can't really get through a thursday puzzle :/
― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 10 February 2009 17:16 (4 years ago) Permalink
the answer for "bush not seen much today" is pretty o_O
― Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Tuesday, 10 February 2009 17:17 (4 years ago) Permalink
That's one of those clues that cleverly exploits the convention that all clues start with capital letters (thus misdirecting the solver into thinking it's a member of the Bush dynasty), but I agree that "bush" is sort of a weird word to use in that context.
― Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Tuesday, 10 February 2009 17:23 (4 years ago) Permalink
Today didn't know what a "dabbler" was until I looked it up.
― lemmy tristano (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 13 February 2009 19:06 (4 years ago) Permalink
I'm really liking Ken Ken. The six square one is requiring me to xerox it to figure out the possible permutations.
― My new tackling, kidney punching, helmet slapping celebration (forksclovetofu), Friday, 13 February 2009 19:33 (4 years ago) Permalink
or rather today's friday one is. I was gold until today.
― My new tackling, kidney punching, helmet slapping celebration (forksclovetofu), Friday, 13 February 2009 19:36 (4 years ago) Permalink
Ha. I usually do them on line. Today at lunch I took the restaurant newspaper and did the regular crossword and the 4x4 and had to get back so I didn't too much of the 6x6. But I screwed up the 4x4 and had to redo it and felt like an idiot because of the all the inky scribbles.
― lemmy tristano (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 13 February 2009 19:38 (4 years ago) Permalink
I originally messed up the little three square El where it was supposed to add up to 7. I had a block on one of the ways to do it.
But it is definitely an enjoyable puzzle. Exercises a fun part of the brain, doesn't feel like just cranking through an algorithm.
― lemmy tristano (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 13 February 2009 19:43 (4 years ago) Permalink
Wait, I totally did the one with the "Bush not much seen today," but I can't seem to remember what the answer turned out to be!
― nabisco, Friday, 13 February 2009 19:45 (4 years ago) Permalink
it was AFRO i think
― Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Friday, 13 February 2009 19:47 (4 years ago) Permalink
Yup.
― Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Friday, 13 February 2009 19:47 (4 years ago) Permalink
Oh right! Yeah, that was annoying, mostly because ... by the logic of clues, "bush" should be a clear substitute for "hairstyle," and I don't think I've ever heard it used that way. I mean, a descriptive noun just doesn't fit clue-logic there.
― nabisco, Friday, 13 February 2009 19:50 (4 years ago) Permalink
Right. Have rarely if ever heard it used that way. Much more familiar with the terms "wig" or "rug," particularly this last as used in the phrases "rug rethink" and "the old concern of Rug & Gut & Gum" in Martin Amis's Money.
Are you guys familiar with the fact that in Webster's Tenth Collegiate Dictionary under "Afro" there was a picture of a man with an afro, but in the Eleventh it became just a picture of disembodied hair?
― lemmy tristano (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 13 February 2009 19:54 (4 years ago) Permalink
To avoid confusion with "Afro-" as in the Afro-Websterian person beneath the hair?
― nabisco, Friday, 13 February 2009 19:58 (4 years ago) Permalink
maybe the clue was referring to afro-styled pubic hair
― Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Friday, 13 February 2009 19:58 (4 years ago) Permalink
In my copy of the 11th, there's still a face attached, but it's a woman rather than a man.
― Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Friday, 13 February 2009 20:07 (4 years ago) Permalink
Mine too.
― nabisco, Friday, 13 February 2009 20:14 (4 years ago) Permalink
I mean, obviously
OK, my bad. I have the Tenth in front of me but not the Eleventh. I just spoke to mr finewine, who first pointed this out to me, and he reminded me that there was another change between the Ninth and the Tenth, that between nine and ten the guy's afro was trimmed down and his skin color was blanched.
― lemmy tristano (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 13 February 2009 20:55 (4 years ago) Permalink
I just e-mailed my brother to see if he could send me a copy of the interview he conducted a few years ago with Jeffrey Middleton, the Webster's illustrator.
― Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Friday, 13 February 2009 20:58 (4 years ago) Permalink
Your family sounds awesome.
― i'm shy (Abbott), Friday, 13 February 2009 21:03 (4 years ago) Permalink
if i recall correctly, the guy with the afro in 9th or 10th edition also had an incredibly wide "negroid" nose.
― robotsinlove, Friday, 13 February 2009 21:08 (4 years ago) Permalink
this was the picture for the 8th ed.:
― Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Friday, 13 February 2009 21:11 (4 years ago) Permalink
i spent a lot of time looking at that clue thinking "Jeb? GHWB?"
― My new tackling, kidney punching, helmet slapping celebration (forksclovetofu), Friday, 13 February 2009 21:11 (4 years ago) Permalink
Another Afro-Websterian not often seen today is the "backhand"-ing Arthur Ashe figure who disappeared after the Ninth.
I'm really liking Ken Ken. The six square one is requiring me to xerox it to figure out the possible permutations.― My new tackling, kidney punching, helmet slapping celebration (forksclovetofu), Friday, February 13, 2009 2:33 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalinkor rather today's friday one is. I was gold until today.― My new tackling, kidney punching, helmet slapping celebration (forksclovetofu), Friday, February 13, 2009 2:36 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark
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Tonight when I got home made mad rush to find print copy of the NYT only to find out Mrs. Redd had recycled it, made rush to basement to find out the super had recycled it and furthermore the truck had come two hours before. Luckily it turned out today's paper had in fact been spared and was still in apartment. Took up gauntlet thrown down by above quote and spent a long time trying to find logical way into today's 6x6. Here's how I finally got started:
KENKEN SPOILER ALERT*****Ended up concentrating on right edge. Notice that top had a 20x and bottom had a 4x, neither which was divisible by 3, so the 3 had to be in the 2÷ in the middle. Then I... now that I look at it, I think my next piece of logic was more of guess, but I looked at the bottom 4x l-shape and went with 2-1-2 instead of 1-4-1. Also there was some "forcing" between the bottom right l-shape and the top l-shape, which I used but turned out I had the 5 in the top el in the wrong place until the very end.
― lemmy tristano (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 14 February 2009 01:28 (4 years ago) Permalink
OK, now I remember.
***ANOTHER KENKEN SPOILER***The left edge 15+ had to be 4-5-6 in some order, which meant the 1- at the top of the left side had to have a 2 in it. Which meant the 20x at the top of the right side couldn't be 2-5-2 so it had to be 5-4-1 (in some order) which meant the bottom right couldn't be 1-4-1 so it had to be 2-1-2.
― lemmy tristano (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 14 February 2009 03:52 (4 years ago) Permalink
So much wanted "Hits with bug spray" to be "Offs"
― lemmy tristano (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 19 February 2009 00:09 (4 years ago) Permalink
hey maybe start a new thread for kenken
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 19 February 2009 01:50 (4 years ago) Permalink
fucked up the 6x6 today somehow, in pen...
― max, Thursday, 19 February 2009 02:53 (4 years ago) Permalink
Huh. Just a couple weeks ago I constructed a puzzle with the exact same theme as Wednesday's. Guess I'll pitch it elsewhere.
― Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Sunday, 22 February 2009 19:52 (4 years ago) Permalink
new thread Les Aventures de Kenken
― moe greene dolphin street (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 4 March 2009 03:13 (4 years ago) Permalink
Just watched the documentary Wordplay. Very entertaining.
― moe greene dolphin street (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 4 March 2009 05:12 (4 years ago) Permalink
And Tyler Hinman just won for the 5th straight year this past weekend.
― Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Wednesday, 4 March 2009 06:31 (4 years ago) Permalink
When are you going to enter, jaymc?
― moe greene dolphin street (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 4 March 2009 14:46 (4 years ago) Permalink
Oh yeah, today's theme is pretty fun.
But today's is crazy hard.
― moe greene dolphin street (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 5 March 2009 15:18 (4 years ago) Permalink
It's been a while for me & the NYT puzzles. Typically, I'll binge on them for a while & then get bored. A year or two will pass & then I will resume the cycle. Tonight, insomnia has led me re-embrace this vice. Or maybe not. I'm going come in swinging w/ an attempt at the Sat. puzzle & go from there..
― no hongro dialect (Pillbox), Sunday, 17 January 2010 06:19 (3 years ago) Permalink
OK, one down (w/ two errors). I had to walk away from it & come back, tho. Does anyone else subscribe to the premium service w/ the Across Lite app? I signed up for it several years ago & then ended up switching banks, but somehow my membership was never canceled. glitch in the system = free online nyt xwords 4 LYFE (hopefully).
― hukqs not drukqs (Pillbox), Sunday, 17 January 2010 08:35 (3 years ago) Permalink
i've been binging on a book of nyt puzzles lately -- but it's way too tempting to check the answer key when i get stumped.
― I’m not the English Philip Roth, I’m the Jewish Jane Austen (get bent), Tuesday, 19 October 2010 09:34 (2 years ago) Permalink
not a complaint but a good friend of mine regularly babysat the constructor of friday's puzzle. (he's 15 and going to harvard next year.)
― the charo and the pity (donna rouge), Friday, 24 June 2011 05:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
Christ, the lower right corner of today's is driving me batty. I have all but three spaces & am totally stumped & frustrated. Guess it's time to walk away for a moment.
― Broney, Pt. 1 (Pillbox), Saturday, 22 September 2012 00:58 (8 months ago) Permalink
Is that Friday's or Saturday's? This morning it was the left and lower left that were giving me trouble for the longest time.
― a shark with a rippling six pack (Phil D.), Saturday, 22 September 2012 12:16 (8 months ago) Permalink
Friday's. If I have time tomorrow, though, I'll do Saturday's. Saturday Times puzzles are the best - far prefer them to Sundays tbh.
― Broney, Pt. 1 (Pillbox), Sunday, 23 September 2012 10:17 (8 months ago) Permalink
They are rillllly hard
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 24 September 2012 16:57 (8 months ago) Permalink
imo this past weekend's puzzles were a rare instance of Friday being more challenging than Saturday.
― Broney, Pt. 1 (Pillbox), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 02:44 (7 months ago) Permalink