― Julio Desouza, Sunday, 28 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
but I guess I could still be called a Paki, and um:
"whoa whoa whoa there! generalization city!" - agreed. a rather gargantuan generalization, right?
― V, Monday, 29 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
Unless you meant I was generalizing about the ethnic difference part, in which case I'm not so much asserting that as suggesting it. I know it's partly true for me: growing up with this sense of "difference" being hung around you can surely give you a little nudge toward a musical genre that bills itself as the "different" one.
― nabisco, Monday, 29 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
all this begs me to ask, nabisco: what ethnicity are you? not that it's important
NU-ILM, its the new crack.
― Mr Noodles, Monday, 29 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Julio Desouza, Monday, 29 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Mr noodles, Monday, 29 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― just a friendly tip, Monday, 29 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Sean Carruthers, Monday, 29 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
I hear Pervez Musharraf's a big fan. He hated "Terror Twilight", but then, didn't everyone?
― Dom Passantino, Monday, 29 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Dan Myers, Friday, 31 January 2003 00:27 (twenty-one years ago) link
Ha! I was on the N. Side and heard Straight Outta Compton long before the Pixies or Pavement etc. But somehow I ended, lo these many years down the road, posting about Maurice Chevalier on ILX.
This post is not intended to reinforce anyone's determinism, racial or otherwise.
― Amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 31 January 2003 00:46 (twenty-one years ago) link
― gaitataxia, Friday, 31 January 2003 01:02 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Jonathan Williams (ex machina), Friday, 31 January 2003 01:10 (twenty-one years ago) link
Why isn't it reciprocal? Why don't black fans packCreed shows, for example? Actually, I've never seen aCreed crowd, but I'm pretty sure that while white audiences like black music (hip-hop) it's not reallyreciprocal. Perhaps I'm wrong tho.
― Squirl_Police, Friday, 31 January 2003 03:16 (twenty-one years ago) link
During highschool and Uni my walls were (and still are) plastered with pictures of The Pixies, Jane's Addiction, Sonic Youth, Fugazi, Bad Brains, Pavement, GBV, NWA, Tribe Called Quest and Public Enemy. It's just music!! Enough with the categories! I have friends from all different backgrounds who get down to all different kinds of tunes. What does hearing indie-rock first have to do with being able to appreciate hip-hop later, or vice-versa?
I've been to rock shows where none of the friends I was with were white and I've been to hip-hop shows where they all were. I thought that I'd heard the last of this crap in high school.
If "Indieholic Anonymous" doubts that black people can rock then I should probably invite him to come to the studio sometime when I'm jamming with some friends. We'll blow his stupid ass through the back wall.
― J-rock (Julien Sandiford), Friday, 31 January 2003 08:17 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 31 January 2003 14:07 (twenty-one years ago) link
A thread with "black people" and "rock" in the title, and absolutely no mention whatsoevah of THE 'BONE!?! Wow.
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 31 January 2003 14:19 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 31 January 2003 14:24 (twenty-one years ago) link
You do realize that there are not equal numbers of black and non-black people in the U.S., don't you?
― nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 31 January 2003 16:27 (twenty-one years ago) link
― andy, Friday, 31 January 2003 16:27 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 31 January 2003 16:28 (twenty-one years ago) link
Is there some sort of impossible-to-avoid-insult-factor for black-people-what-rock similar to the one for white-people-what-rap?
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 31 January 2003 16:36 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 31 January 2003 17:03 (twenty-one years ago) link
I don't see how "blowing his stupid ass through the back wall" would convince him of anything. Why don't you just impress him by rocking? Oh, I get it, you're "throwing down"!
― matt riedl (veal), Friday, 31 January 2003 17:35 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Friday, 31 January 2003 17:39 (twenty-one years ago) link
Me neither. I guess that is how they solve their problems in the ghetto.
― , Friday, 31 January 2003 20:15 (twenty-one years ago) link
WAIT A MINUTE!...I should have kept reading:
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So what are you saying? Music genres don't necessarily have racial boundaries? Could this also go for some other issues in life? Oh, no, I have to change the filing system...excuse me...
― gaitataxia, Friday, 31 January 2003 20:18 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 31 January 2003 20:36 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Curtis Stephens, Friday, 31 January 2003 20:52 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 31 January 2003 20:55 (twenty-one years ago) link
Its like watching a car wreck. first off you have the moron who started it digging his hole deeper with every word out of his mouth, and then everyone else scrambling to jump in the hole too.
"black people" is not a unit. yet everyone here is talking like you can just say "black people ____________" and not come across as a completely ignorant and uninformed. Do any of you really know anything about the listening patterns and demographics that follow of people outside your immediate area? I really doubt it. I sure don't, so I don't pretend I do.
and matt riedl: I think by "blowing them through the back wall" he meant "rocking."
whatever, I don't even know who here is joking and who here is really just dumb...
― tinobeat (tinobeat), Friday, 31 January 2003 21:05 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 31 January 2003 21:10 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 31 January 2003 21:21 (twenty-one years ago) link
http://images.ibsys.com/2002/0109/1181589.jpg
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 31 January 2003 21:42 (twenty-one years ago) link
despite that, the topic does merit some serious discussion - because even know we all know that in reality of course rock n' roll is not something that only appeals to people who happen to be caucasian or whatever...but the stereotypes are real too, and perpetuated by a wide range of elements, from MTV to record stores to the consumers themselves
― stevem (blueski), Friday, 31 January 2003 22:03 (twenty-one years ago) link
If the opening question was at all valid, the answer I'd have gained from mainstream American comedies is that black would-be rock fans wouldn't want to be surrounded by "a bunch of crazy white people." And white guys would respond "It's true! It's all true! We're sooo lame." And then we'd all dive into Fred Durst's chocolate starfish.
But again, I'm surprised you all, like, acknowledged this dillpickle.
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 31 January 2003 22:30 (twenty-one years ago) link
FIEND.
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 31 January 2003 22:31 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Joe Dawg, Friday, 31 January 2003 23:02 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Rockist Scientist, Saturday, 1 February 2003 02:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
Chuck Berry and Little Richard. Can't get more rock'n'roll than them.
Jimi Hendrix, ultimate rock guitarist. Though he expressed concern about how brothers saw him.
Arthur Lee. What Jim Morrison wished he could be.
Funkadelic/Eddie Hazel rocked as much as Black Sabbath or Led Zeppelin in the day. A real "pysche" band.
Bob Marley listened to Hank Williams Sr. Toots and the Maytals did the definitive version of "Country Road." Don't forget Cymande.
Grandmaster Flash/Kool Herc/Bambaata spun Kraftwerk along with JB.Don't forget about the Puerto Rican b-boys back in the day. They contributed too.
Prince is from Minnesota.
Pharrel of the N*E*R*D*/Neptunes, arguably the most influential producer in pop music today, has a skater/BMX/punk side and he has a bling side.
― Polo Pony, Saturday, 1 February 2003 06:17 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Saturday, 1 February 2003 06:59 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Chris Barrus (xibalba), Saturday, 1 February 2003 07:37 (twenty-one years ago) link
― matt riedl (veal), Saturday, 1 February 2003 18:30 (twenty-one years ago) link