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http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003624356

New Cure Album Shifts From Fall To Next Spring

August 10, 2007

Jonathan Cohen, N.Y.

Originally due in early 2007 and then bumped to the fall, the new Cure album will now not see the light of day until next spring, according to a Geffen spokesperson.

Frontman Robert Smith is still recording material for the planned double-disc set but ran into a time crunch with an impending North American tour on the books. That outing begins Sept. 13 in Tampa, Fla. The band is presently in Australia for three shows, beginning tonight (Aug. 10) in Sydney.

"Whenever I think we're finishing it, it becomes something else," Smith told Billboard in late June. "We recorded all 33 backing tracks with scratch vocals last April, May and June. Then I took a break to kind of knock the words into shape and figure out which of these songs are going to make the album."

From there, Smith got sidetracked by work on the Cure live DVD "Festival 2005," but returned to the album material in March. "We've now reached the point where I've lost track of the number of songs we've got," he said. "There's an A-list of 30 songs on the wall."

Tracks due to make the cut include "Lusting Here in Your Mind" ("It sounds suspiciously like heavy rock to me," Smith said), "The Hungry Ghost," "The Perfect Boy," "Christmas Without You" ("That's not a very happy song," he said) and "Please Come Home."

"There are songs about relationships, the material world, politics and religion. They're very upfront and dynamic," said Smith of the new songs. "People will be surprised how stripped-down and in-your-face the record is."

Bee OK, Sunday, 19 August 2007 04:47 (sixteen years ago) link

as long as it sounds better than the last one. i guess if they aren't even pretending to have keyboards on this I won't be miffed that they've been mixed out this time.

akm, Sunday, 19 August 2007 15:51 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh man, I have to edit the thread title again? (I really shouldn't be surprised it's another four year gap between albums...)

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 19 August 2007 17:25 (sixteen years ago) link

Oopsy:

PRESS RELEASE 24/8/07
Body: 24/8/07
North American Fall 2007 Cure shows re-scheduled for Spring 2008

With all apologies for any inconvenience or disappointment it may cause, we have made a decision to move the September/October 2007 North American Cure shows to April/May 2008.

The schedule as it stands only gives us a couple of weeks to finish our new double album before we hit the road again, and we know this just isn’t enough time to complete the project to our total satisfaction.

Although this last month’s tour of Australasia showed that a great Cure show is not dependent on a new Cure album, it has to be remembered that we hadn’t played Australia for 7 years, New Zealand for 15 years, Japan for 23 years(!), and Singapore or Hong Kong ever before – so the absence of ‘new’ songs in the set was not really much of an issue.

However, we want to remodel/rework the live show for North America, change things around, incorporate new songs… and we need time and focus to do this.

So although we can agree it is a great shame to move these dates – believe us we have been looking forward to them more than anyone! – and know there will be a lot of disappointed people out there, we honestly feel that in the bigger picture we are making the right decision.

All tickets held for all 2007 North American Cure shows will be valid for the re-scheduled 2008 shows, and of course anyone who seeks a refund will be able to get one.

All validity/refund/rescheduling details will be announced as soon as we have them.

We are still going to headline the San Francisco Download Festival October 6th, and we will still be performing at the MTV Latin America Awards October 18th.

We will also play the three scheduled Sports Palace Mexico City shows October 20th/21st/22nd, as by this point we feel sure we will have finished the new album, and will be more than happy to start dropping a fresh song or three into the set each night…

Once again, our genuine apologies to anyone who is upset by this announcement - please be encouraged by our promise:

The Spring 2008 Cure shows will be even better than the Fall 2007 ones would have been!!!

See you all soon…
Love

Robert, Simon, Jason and Porl – The Cure 24/8/07

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 August 2007 13:59 (sixteen years ago) link

If this turns out to be the same weekend as EMP I'll be annoyed. (And this had BETTER NOT mean a substitution of Coachella for a standalone date.)

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 August 2007 14:00 (sixteen years ago) link

http://accordionguy.blogware.com/Photos/2005/05/noooooooo.jpg

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 24 August 2007 14:04 (sixteen years ago) link

Robert's looking a bit satisfied with himself back there.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 August 2007 14:07 (sixteen years ago) link

urgh... This is turning out to be the Cure's 'Chinese Democracy'

baaderonixx, Friday, 24 August 2007 14:20 (sixteen years ago) link

shit :(

Curt1s Stephens, Friday, 24 August 2007 18:08 (sixteen years ago) link

Meantime, Porl seems to have turned into Billy Corgan. Are those tattoos?

http://cache.umusic.com/MCAImageUpload/1589606-Full.img6074.8-07.vella.small.jpg

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 25 August 2007 21:47 (sixteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Chain of Flowers has handily collected a bunch of Robert posts from the main site on the whole recent hullabaloo, which can make for some amusing reading.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 16 September 2007 14:41 (sixteen years ago) link

all-caps is cruise control for cool eh Bob

J0hn D., Sunday, 16 September 2007 15:04 (sixteen years ago) link

Hahah wow, Bob's not happy.

I hadn't spotted this earlier that the tour went south - its a shame, what happened to 65daysofstatic? Did they still play some US shows regardless?

Trayce, Sunday, 16 September 2007 21:51 (sixteen years ago) link

(cause if I'd had tix for the US tour I would be pretty pissed off at missing out on 65dos! I mean the Cure will come back but I bet 65dos dont)

Trayce, Sunday, 16 September 2007 21:52 (sixteen years ago) link

http://columns.ultrasecretwebsite.com/Archive/Reviews/Music/marissa.jpg

SO
I AM KIND OF HALF WITH YOU?

BUT ALONG WITH A FEW OTHERS ON HERE I THINK YOU ARE MISUNDERSTANDING THE KEY POINT

WE MOVED THE DATES BECAUSE I AM DESPERATE TO FINSH A PROJECT THAT WAS STARTED IN MARCH 2006

IT IS DRAGGING OUT TOO LONG AND I KNOW IN MY HEART WE NEED TO FINISH IT NOW
NOW
NOT IN 2 MONTHS
BUT
NOW

WHEN IT IS DONE
WE WILL PLAY SHOWS

Curt1s is coming to Zwinktopia !, Sunday, 16 September 2007 22:21 (sixteen years ago) link

Roffles

Trayce, Sunday, 16 September 2007 22:25 (sixteen years ago) link

wow!! a remastered/ 2 cd 'mixed up' is coming out?? NO WAY!
what extras will that have on it then?
funny cause Harold and Joe and the Lets Go To Bed (Milk Mix?) were the best things about the whole project/era and they were both b sides.

pisces, Sunday, 16 September 2007 23:44 (sixteen years ago) link

Also "Primary" (Red Mix)

HI DERE, Monday, 17 September 2007 00:22 (sixteen years ago) link

Harold & Joe won't be on it, they haven't doubled up with Join The Dots on the rest of 'em

energy flash gordon, Monday, 17 September 2007 05:06 (sixteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

So, there was a new song "Please Project" at Download the other night. From the low-quality YouTube recording, it sounds (to me) like the love-child of "Just Like Heaven" and MBV's "Soon" and of course, the lyrics are recognizably Robert Smith's.

Details + link from a chain of flowers:

------

Here's a video from the Download Festival of the new song 'Please Project':

"I managed to get the whole new song on video, unfortunately it was through my little digital cam which hasn't the best microphone in the world.
We were also right in front of the speaker stacks so that adds to the decrease in quality. Still, you can kind of get a feel for what the song is like and since I haven't seen anything else come in for that song, I thought I'd forward this on until a better quality recording is available.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCveIQjPuvw

I'm also currently uploading the full "quality" file on google video, it was too big for youtube, and I"ll send you the link for that too if you like.

I loved the show, utterly loved it, they did a great job and they were so energetic and it looked to me like they were having a blast. Robert was very animated through most of the songs and all in all it was a wonderful night!"

stephen, Monday, 8 October 2007 23:56 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah yeah. *thinks bitterly over how he SHOULD have been seeing them this weekend...*

Ned Raggett, Monday, 8 October 2007 23:58 (sixteen years ago) link

Not related to the new album...but too good not to link:

"One Hundred Years" at Download
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQQXl8R4Dvw

stephen, Monday, 8 October 2007 23:59 (sixteen years ago) link

Chain of Flowers has links to the new song. Sounds very much like something from the Wish era

baaderonixx, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 08:08 (sixteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

One of the new songs sounds amazingly close to their "Man in my Mouth/Throw your Foot" era: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3M0MBqx5oHc

baaderonixx, Friday, 26 October 2007 12:54 (sixteen years ago) link

There'll be a 6 7 8 up there before long!

Mark G, Friday, 26 October 2007 13:01 (sixteen years ago) link

Will this be "Pornography" part 4 or are they finally doing something more poppy and uplifting again after two (missed) depressive albums?

After all they haven't been able to come up with a good "dark" album since..... "Pornography".....

Geir Hongro, Saturday, 27 October 2007 01:06 (sixteen years ago) link

In my somewhat outspoken opinion, they haven't been able to come up with a truly, truly brilliant album since (or before) Pornography. Plenty of very good stuff, sure, but nothing else they've done touches that record's genius (with the possible exception of The Top).

Just got offed, Saturday, 27 October 2007 01:10 (sixteen years ago) link

Are they planning to ever finish the reissue series? It's been well over a year since the last batch of releases...

Telephone thing, Saturday, 27 October 2007 02:37 (sixteen years ago) link

Geir doesn't like Disintegration? It's tuneful.

Curt1s Stephens, Sunday, 28 October 2007 03:46 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm guessing he doesn't like the long songs.

Curt1s Stephens, Sunday, 28 October 2007 03:46 (sixteen years ago) link

three months pass...

Time to change this thread's title. Laters rumor is that this will come out on 31 March and will have 33 songs.

baaderonixx, Friday, 1 February 2008 09:12 (sixteen years ago) link

I am more interested in the remasters. Because, yes, I kind of like "Disintegration" even though it would have been better had it been trimmed by 10-15 minutes. Plus I still only have those three as burned copies and I will not buy the proper CDs before I have the remasteres.
But I don't like "Disintegration" as much as the earlier stuff, or Cure's more poppy later stuff.

Obviously looking more forward to the "Wish" remaster.

Geir Hongro, Friday, 1 February 2008 09:49 (sixteen years ago) link

It struck me when I got the Cure Hits DVD for the kids (and me) that they haven't had an all conquering pop hit since "Friday I'm in Love" and at the time you would never have thought it would have 'ended there'.

I guess the 'media' changed so much, there were other fine singles but the radio stopped playing them.

So, what to expect? This long gestation period never bodes well for most artistes.

Yeah, make the "8" up there!

Mark G, Friday, 1 February 2008 10:04 (sixteen years ago) link

What happened is that they haven't released a pop album since "Wild Mood Swings", which landed in the middle of the Britpop boom and suddenly they seemed like the previous generation. The guitar/song oriented audiences didn't need them anymore, as they had Blur, Oasis, Pulp and Suede instead.

After that, they have been very much revalued and are seen as a very important act today. But those "dark" last couple of albums have lacked obvious hits.

Had it been on "Wish", then "Mint Car" would have been just as huge as "High" and "Friday I'm In Love". It's the same kind of song, after all.

Geir Hongro, Friday, 1 February 2008 10:26 (sixteen years ago) link

I thought it was because "WMS" wasn't good enough! (I never heard it so can't say for certain)

If it had been, the guitar/song oriented audiences would have bought it also: There was no great "year Zero" about Britpop (in fact blimey, far from it!)

Mark G, Friday, 1 February 2008 10:29 (sixteen years ago) link

I have to agree with Geir here. WMS did have IMO one of their finest pop singles, "The 13th"

baaderonixx, Friday, 1 February 2008 10:39 (sixteen years ago) link

two months pass...

i just don't like the overly-jubilant robert smith. as witnessed on 'mint car', 'the 13th', a couple of tracks on kiss me etc.
the japanese whispers singles are awesome though

Charlie Howard, Thursday, 10 April 2008 09:01 (sixteen years ago) link

Japanese Whispers
Chinese Whispers
Chinese Democracy

I thangyew.

Mark G, Thursday, 10 April 2008 09:21 (sixteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

New single is out on May 13th. 4 singles to be released over the next 4 months.

baaderonixx, Sunday, 27 April 2008 10:02 (sixteen years ago) link

waht

HI DERE, Sunday, 27 April 2008 10:41 (sixteen years ago) link

from COF:

May 13th - The Only One (mix 13) + Ny Trip (CD, 7", Digital Download)
June 13th - Single #2 (mix 13) + new b-side (CD, 7", Digital Download)
July 13th - Single #3 (mix 13) + new b-side (CD, 7", Digital Download)
August 13th - Single #4 (mix 13) + new b-side (CD, 7", Digital Download)

Also, the the first single will come with a collector's box that will house all 4 of the singles. There will be a separate box for the cds and the 7" vinyl singles. If you were around for the Wish era, you'll remember that they did the same thing with the High single.

baaderonixx, Sunday, 27 April 2008 11:02 (sixteen years ago) link

Such teases.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 27 April 2008 13:50 (sixteen years ago) link

mutiple pastic single releases in boxes, such a 90's thing to do!

akm, Sunday, 27 April 2008 14:46 (sixteen years ago) link

Things not mentioned here yet are that the album itself comes out in September and that the single mixes will be different from the album versions.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 27 April 2008 14:50 (sixteen years ago) link

also not mentioned: whether it will be any good or not

akm, Sunday, 27 April 2008 15:01 (sixteen years ago) link

I want to believe etc.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 27 April 2008 15:02 (sixteen years ago) link

I for one am excited

baaderonixx, Sunday, 27 April 2008 19:59 (sixteen years ago) link

and yes the collectors box is totally 90's and totally awesome

baaderonixx, Sunday, 27 April 2008 20:00 (sixteen years ago) link

and yes the collectors box is totally 90's and totally awesome

it's true

billstevejim, Sunday, 27 April 2008 20:13 (sixteen years ago) link


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