I really WANT to like Trout Mask Replica...

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the thing about Don Van Vliet that people never seem to grasp is how fucking stiff a human being he really is, despite his apparent charm and his hipness. it's really fucking stiff and dry music, which is what he intended, I guess. I always figured he was juicing up some stuff he wanted to act like he didn't believe in , just like Zappa.

I really think "TMR" and that music is as much French as anyone--he's what makes it all happen. he saw how stiff Don was, really, and being a good Christian he decided to give him his head...

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Saturday, 15 April 2006 20:50 (eighteen years ago) link

Hmmm, Don doesn't sound still to me on the early singles and Safe as Milk.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 15 April 2006 21:06 (eighteen years ago) link

or "stiff," rather

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 15 April 2006 21:08 (eighteen years ago) link

In fact, I'm not sure when he does sound stiff. Maybe when he was yelling. Then, his body got rigid? Or that staccato singing on "When Big Joan Sets Up" ("Uh turquoise scarf 'n uh sleeve Rolled up over uh Merc Montclair") - that's kind of herky jerky.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 15 April 2006 21:11 (eighteen years ago) link

There was certainly a sort of rigidity of purpose about the way Don drilled the TMR band, although he never seems to have applied that level of discipline to himself (and it's certainly not evident in his painting!). To me one of the most extraordinary things about the music is the way it still manages to swing despite the extreme precision involved in the structure - and a great deal of the credit for that must go to Drumbo. Compare Drumbo's style with later Magic Band drummer Robert Williams, who's a great drummer but plays like a robot compared with Drumbo.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Sunday, 16 April 2006 08:48 (eighteen years ago) link

eleven years pass...

Meh

Anne Git Yorgun (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 10 December 2017 20:29 (six years ago) link

nobody "really wants to like" metal machine music

bob lefse (rushomancy), Monday, 11 December 2017 02:01 (six years ago) link


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