the forensic evidence seems so massively stacked against him.
money buys "justice" once again.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 21:53 (sixteen years ago) link
aww man I just....I mean, none of us were on the jury, we didn't hear the whole trial, but...it does seem like he shot that poor woman.
― J0hn D., Tuesday, 18 September 2007 22:05 (sixteen years ago) link
I think its all his prior behavior combined with the forensic evidence that's really damning (but yes I'm not in the courtroom etc.)... still the whole inevitability of it, this is the kind of thing practically everyone that's known/worked with Spector has predicted would happen for so long and now that its happened he's gonna ... well what is he gonna do exactly? he can't become any more of a recluse/outcast than he already is...
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 22:44 (sixteen years ago) link
In ten years, he'll be jacking people at conventions, stealing memoribila.
― I eat cannibals, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 23:19 (sixteen years ago) link
he's been crazy as fuck for years. why on earth would you go to a washed-up celebrities house after work and then decided to commit suicide at the last minute?
― M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 23:21 (sixteen years ago) link
Maybe now that OJ's been arrested again there needs to be a new getting away with murder posterboy.
― mehlt, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 23:41 (sixteen years ago) link
new on pichfork:
Phil Spector's Murder Trial Declared Mistrial
After about five months of testimony, the trial of legendary "Wall of Sound" producer Phil Spector ended in a mistrial today, September 26, according to an AP report.
Spector is charged with second-degree murder for the gun death of actress Lana Clarkson four-and-a-half years ago, but Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Larry Paul Fidler declared the case a mistrial after each juror told him they were unable to reach a verdict.
Fidler made the decision on the 12th day of deliberations, and the foreman of the nine-man, three-woman jury revealed that there was a 10-2 deadlock without specifying which way they were leaning.
So far, there has been no talk of a retrial.
Also related to the trial-- though apparently not factoring into the decision to declare a mistrial-- is authorities' investigation into a possible threat to Fidler made via a post to a "Team Spector" MySpace page.
The post said, "I love Phil Spector" and "The Evil Judge should DIE!!!!." It was signed "xoxo Chelle"-- a reference to Spector's wife Rachelle-- and later taken down, according to Superior Court spokesman Allan Parachini.
Christopher Plourd, one of Spector's defense attorneys, denied Rachelle Spector's involvement in the incident.
A few weeks ago, Fidler and Rachelle Spector clashed over her communication with the media about the case outside of court, according to a Los Angeles Times report.
― sam500, Thursday, 27 September 2007 05:09 (sixteen years ago) link
Mistrial declared in Phil Spector murder case
― StanM, Thursday, 27 September 2007 06:28 (sixteen years ago) link
A woman who testified against Phil Spector at his murder trial last year has died, but prosecutors vowed Monday that the loss would not substantially affect the music producer's second trial.
http://www.showbuzz.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/01/08/ap/music/main3684887.shtml
― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 12:12 (sixteen years ago) link
Verdict to be announced in an hour.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 13 April 2009 19:36 (fifteen years ago) link
regardless of what they decide, this whole thing is still depressing in about 20 different ways.
― tylerw, Monday, 13 April 2009 19:38 (fifteen years ago) link
Why does everyone in the comments seem to hope he goes down? (yeah, I know, don't read news site comments, it's bad for my nerves, but I can't help it)
― StanM, Monday, 13 April 2009 20:10 (fifteen years ago) link
Why does everyone in the comments seem to hope he goes down?
because there's every indication that he is, in fact, guilty as fuck?
― wassup rockers? (M@tt He1ges0n), Monday, 13 April 2009 20:11 (fifteen years ago) link
I had the impression that it wasn't as clear as that, but if it is, then OK.
― StanM, Monday, 13 April 2009 20:13 (fifteen years ago) link
i dunno i read a couple long form articles about it that -- even accounting for what i would suspect was a anti-spector bias -- seemed to suggest that him and his lawyers story was mega suspect at best, pretty much sounded like outright bullshit.....not withstanding the man's considerable history with guns, being abusive, crazy, paranoid, etc etc etc
― wassup rockers? (M@tt He1ges0n), Monday, 13 April 2009 20:15 (fifteen years ago) link
Spector's defense - that she was drunk and depressed, took his gun (after it got his prints on it), and shot herself in the face - is a little um wtf. Especially given that immediately afterwards he wandered outside, gun in hand, and said to his driver "I think I killed somebody". Plus a history of being an abusive mysoginistic loon and habit of threatening all kinds of people with firearms... yeah I think the guy is guilty as fuck. so to speak.
― This Board is a Prison on Planet Bullshit (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 13 April 2009 20:16 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah his alibi wouldn't have even supported a 15 minute episode of Matlock IMO
― wassup rockers? (M@tt He1ges0n), Monday, 13 April 2009 20:21 (fifteen years ago) link
and said to his driver "I think I killed somebody"
LOL
― StanM, Monday, 13 April 2009 20:24 (fifteen years ago) link
I think for people who knew him, the reaction wasn't "phil shot someone?!" it was more "surprised that didn't happen sooner ... and lucky it wasn't me."
― tylerw, Monday, 13 April 2009 20:24 (fifteen years ago) link
guilty
― This Board is a Prison on Planet Bullshit (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 13 April 2009 21:18 (fifteen years ago) link
cannot find video of Beavis saying "give him the chair"
― Euler, Monday, 13 April 2009 21:19 (fifteen years ago) link
i couldn't find the story, is the verdict out now?
― wassup rockers? (M@tt He1ges0n), Monday, 13 April 2009 21:21 (fifteen years ago) link
Music producer Phil Spector has been found guilty of second-degree murder in the death of actress Lana Clarkson.
― fucken cumlord (omar little), Monday, 13 April 2009 21:23 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah, its a headline along the top on the bbc site
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 13 April 2009 21:24 (fifteen years ago) link
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2009/04/phil-spector-verdict-lana-clarkson.html
― StanM, Monday, 13 April 2009 21:31 (fifteen years ago) link
Is this a death-penalty case? (It may no longer be now, for other reasons, but was it ever?)
― Daniel, Esq., Monday, 13 April 2009 21:32 (fifteen years ago) link
no its not. he's facing 18 years (I doubt he'll get that much)
― This Board is a Prison on Planet Bullshit (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 13 April 2009 21:32 (fifteen years ago) link
Spector arrived in court Monday wearing a "Barack Obama" button.
― Simon H., Monday, 13 April 2009 21:33 (fifteen years ago) link
no, I just wanted to play Beavis
― Euler, Monday, 13 April 2009 21:34 (fifteen years ago) link
where's Marcello
― This Board is a Prison on Planet Bullshit (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 13 April 2009 21:34 (fifteen years ago) link
Marcello has a cast iron alibi so don't even try it.
― featuring Strawberry and the Shortcakes (Billy Dods), Monday, 13 April 2009 21:39 (fifteen years ago) link
lolz - nah there was just some other thread where Marcello was giving me shit for assuming Spector's guilt and I was sorta flabbergasted that anyone (esp someone who's researched Spector exhaustively) would buy his alibi
― This Board is a Prison on Planet Bullshit (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 13 April 2009 21:42 (fifteen years ago) link
oops its 18 years TO LIFE... dude's gonna duy in the can
― This Board is a Prison on Planet Bullshit (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 13 April 2009 22:34 (fifteen years ago) link
die even
It's like I should feel sadness or pity about this entire tragedy, but we always knew that Spector was nuts so the fact that his stupid habits finally led to someone's death isn't much of a surprise. It feels like nothing has really changed, and therefore I don't feel much of anything at all about this.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 13 April 2009 22:55 (fifteen years ago) link
I guess for the family of the murdered woman there's some satisfaction about justice being done. But she's still gone.
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 04:38 (fifteen years ago) link
"He can't hide behind the wall of sound now..." opening line of the 11 O'clock news (CBS Los Angeles).
― nickn, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 06:02 (fifteen years ago) link
"He Shot Me (And It Felt Like a Kiss)"
― Myonga Vön Bontee, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 09:11 (fifteen years ago) link
"You've lost that murder retrialBaby, that murder retrial..."
― Sacco, Vanzetti, Passantino... (Tom D.), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 09:17 (fifteen years ago) link
Stay classy, CBS Los Angeles
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 09:50 (fifteen years ago) link
Prison folks will sing 'Be my baby' as the welcome song
― Shin Oliva Suzuki, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 12:33 (fifteen years ago) link
ha, was coming here to see if anyone asked this. no doubt he's on a plane, with a list of the jury's home addresses, to give them the hairdryer treatment.
― Bostin' Legal (sic), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 13:07 (fifteen years ago) link
Yesterday's mug shot: http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/spectormugshot1.html
― StanM, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 16:16 (fifteen years ago) link
Ehhhhhh... imo Spector lives (and brings to life in his music) the creepy pathologies that Nick Cave has made a career out of method-acting.
― FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 16:17 (fifteen years ago) link
tru, forever classic just for that
― Old Big 'OOS (AKA the Cupwinner) (darraghmac), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 16:19 (fifteen years ago) link
because obviously actually killing people is way more awesome than just singing about it.
― Simon H., Tuesday, 14 April 2009 16:20 (fifteen years ago) link
it's more authentic
― Old Big 'OOS (AKA the Cupwinner) (darraghmac), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 16:24 (fifteen years ago) link
it's time to stop romanticizing the whole "dude pulled a gun on the Ramones in the studio!" stuff...
― henry s, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 18:50 (fifteen years ago) link
dunno if people romanticized that sort of thing -- the moral of those stories was always that Phil was a weird, fucked up dude, not that Phil was supercool or something.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 19:23 (fifteen years ago) link
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 12:57 PM I Love Music Thread: Phil Spector: Murderer? had its title updated to: Phil Spector: Murderer!
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 19:24 (fifteen years ago) link