Roman Polanski, or pardon me but your poll is in my neck.

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let's invent a new penal tariff... for some reason!

history mayne, Monday, 28 September 2009 16:06 (fourteen years ago) link

putting anyone in jail for anything "does nothing"! i think that's the point, the nothing of it.

goole, Monday, 28 September 2009 16:06 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm inclined to cut Polanski a tiny bit of slack, having seen the documentary on the case. He committed a crime. He pleaded guilty, as part of a plea bargain which had him serving 90 days in prison. He was freed, then apparently the judge changed his mind about the plea bargain and ordered him back to jail. It does seem there's a good chance the case might be dismissed on appeal, on account of judicial misconduct. Only he can't appeal without going back to the U.S., which in turn puts him in danger of a lengthy sentence, precisely on account of a plea that he submitted as part of a plea bargain that was never honoured. Whatever slant you want to put on this, you can hardly say it's simply justice taking its course.

Zelda Zonk, Monday, 28 September 2009 16:06 (fourteen years ago) link

is jordan or whoever really arguing that he should be in jail? mostly i think the non-joan z. shores are just arguing that he should be extradited like any other child rapist and then lets let, i dunno, a judge, or something, decide what to do

fleetwood (max), Monday, 28 September 2009 16:08 (fourteen years ago) link

it's almost enough to put you off sex with 13 year olds, it really is.

What are the benefits of dating a younger guy, better erections? (darraghmac), Monday, 28 September 2009 16:09 (fourteen years ago) link

yup um xp

steamed hams (harbl), Monday, 28 September 2009 16:09 (fourteen years ago) link

I don't know about J0rdan – I'm simply arguing that I'm glad he was arrested. What happens next is for the courts to decide.

i think your argument is tunnel-visioned. on one side, we have frothing BY THE LAW loonies like you who make it into a vast bourgeois conspiracy

wtf does this even mean

Little starbursts of joy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 September 2009 16:10 (fourteen years ago) link

what are the benefits of bumming a younger girl?

history mayne, Monday, 28 September 2009 16:10 (fourteen years ago) link

presumably he'd have a new charge to deal with for running, right? i understand that also is a no-no

goole, Monday, 28 September 2009 16:10 (fourteen years ago) link

presumably he'd have a new charge to deal with for running, right? i understand that also is a no-no

― goole, Monday, September 28, 2009 5:10 PM (17 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

he directed 'rosemary's baby' though.

history mayne, Monday, 28 September 2009 16:11 (fourteen years ago) link

wtf do you even mean, alfred. it's pretty simple to follow: j0rdan sounds like a right-wing wingnut, but instead he's frothin at the mouth about Polanski and nt Obamacare.

my bach penises and their contrapuntal technique (the table is the table), Monday, 28 September 2009 16:12 (fourteen years ago) link

hahahahaha

fleetwood (max), Monday, 28 September 2009 16:12 (fourteen years ago) link

u are somethin else dude

fleetwood (max), Monday, 28 September 2009 16:12 (fourteen years ago) link

keep on keepin on

fleetwood (max), Monday, 28 September 2009 16:12 (fourteen years ago) link

Because it's right wing to hope that the law catches a fugitive.

Little starbursts of joy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 September 2009 16:13 (fourteen years ago) link

table is the table, the more i read your post the less sense it makes

make him invest LOTS of his money in efforts to prevent child abuse/protect abused children

what's the logic here? since he has the money, presumably, to make a better show of Doing Something for further prevention, he ought to be let off? what about a poor child rapist who bailed, does prison still Do Nothing for him, or for us? who, or what authority, bears the responsibility for footing the bill for Doing Something about abused kids, rich abusers who get caught? i don't get how draining his bank account in favor of (presumably) a child's charity, a drop in the bucket, is any more or less symbolic than throwing RP in the clink. what you are suggesting is tabloid justice as much as anything the STRING HIM UP crowd is calling for...

goole, Monday, 28 September 2009 16:15 (fourteen years ago) link

it is if he's an artist, i think. xp

What are the benefits of dating a younger guy, better erections? (darraghmac), Monday, 28 September 2009 16:16 (fourteen years ago) link

sure, goole, but it also doesn't require the already-strained prison-industrial complex from catering to the needs of another dumbfuck child rapist.

my bach penises and their contrapuntal technique (the table is the table), Monday, 28 September 2009 16:21 (fourteen years ago) link

you are a treat.

history mayne, Monday, 28 September 2009 16:22 (fourteen years ago) link

the system is bankrupt and corrupt, its punishments arbitrary, might as well let him go, it would be political capitulation not to...

i guess i really don't have a comeback for that.

goole, Monday, 28 September 2009 16:28 (fourteen years ago) link

i think it's a vast conspiracy by the prison-industrial complex to cater to yet another rapist. they are insatiable

fountain bleaut (s1ocki), Monday, 28 September 2009 16:29 (fourteen years ago) link

whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat

fleetwood (max), Monday, 28 September 2009 16:29 (fourteen years ago) link

i thought i had a bead on this conversation but

fleetwood (max), Monday, 28 September 2009 16:29 (fourteen years ago) link

i am the samantha geimer to tables roman polanski right now

fleetwood (max), Monday, 28 September 2009 16:30 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm not #1 fan of the prison-industrial complex or the long arm of the law either (they are as much a part of the "vast bourgeois conspiracy" as the idea that this one rich famous guy should be left alone because he managed to stay away for 30 years) but can't find a compelling reason why this particular one should be allowed to escape it. he's probably not going to be locked up anyway.

steamed hams (harbl), Monday, 28 September 2009 16:30 (fourteen years ago) link

So is it true said girl from back then doesn't want to see the case being re-opened? Heard this on the radio today.

young depardieu looming out of void in hour of profound triumph (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 28 September 2009 16:33 (fourteen years ago) link

Yes it's true.

Little starbursts of joy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 September 2009 16:34 (fourteen years ago) link

Some people are against capital punishment because they say that it turns the state into a murderer. I'm against imprisonment because it turns the state into a gay dungeon-master.

鬼の手 (Edward III), Monday, 28 September 2009 16:34 (fourteen years ago) link

true. in alll honesty, i've just been trying to point out the lunacy by acting like a lunatic.

in the end, here's what i think: he's a fucking celebrity director, let the law take care of it, worry about yourself. what'll happen will.

(and i bid adieu).

my bach penises and their contrapuntal technique (the table is the table), Monday, 28 September 2009 16:36 (fourteen years ago) link

So is it true said girl from back then doesn't want to see the case being re-opened? Heard this on the radio today.

― young depardieu looming out of void in hour of profound triumph (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, September 28, 2009 5:33 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

also did you know he directed 'cul de sac'. not one of his best, but just saying.

history mayne, Monday, 28 September 2009 16:37 (fourteen years ago) link

let the law take care of it

so you're in favor of extradition now?

goole, Monday, 28 September 2009 16:39 (fourteen years ago) link

table you sure are spending a lot of words to communicate that you have nothing to say about this matter

fountain bleaut (s1ocki), Monday, 28 September 2009 16:50 (fourteen years ago) link

i don't think the guy should go to jail necessarily. i just think the case should be resolved, which clearly it isn't because he illegally fled the country and pointedly avoided capture for over 20 years. i'm arguing against the idea that the length of time means that it's not worth pursuing or that any iota of pity should be felt for this man because of the holocaust or because he was forced to live in france (the horror!) and switzerland (*clutches heart*) or anything like that.

truth bomber ginsburg (J0rdan S.), Monday, 28 September 2009 16:51 (fourteen years ago) link

she was fucking a celebrity director, let the law take care of it, worry about yourself. what'll happen will.

omar little, Monday, 28 September 2009 16:56 (fourteen years ago) link

i mean this just seems totally cut & dry to me. he's a fugitive, extremely little resources were used to capture him & now he has to face a judge to tie-up a case that he ran away from for whatever reason. i honestly don't see how anyone could argue otherwise.

truth bomber ginsburg (J0rdan S.), Monday, 28 September 2009 16:56 (fourteen years ago) link

i think the whole of ilx should be deleted and whenever you visit "ilxor.com" it's just a permanent yellow card that says "worry about yourself"

truth bomber ginsburg (J0rdan S.), Monday, 28 September 2009 16:57 (fourteen years ago) link

maybe there could be a rolling wdyll thread where you can post your own photo but can't see that of anyone else

truth bomber ginsburg (J0rdan S.), Monday, 28 September 2009 16:58 (fourteen years ago) link

How right-wing of you, J0rdan.

Little starbursts of joy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 September 2009 17:01 (fourteen years ago) link

Opposition to anal rape is a hallmark of conservatism.

ice cr?m paint job (milo z), Monday, 28 September 2009 17:18 (fourteen years ago) link

All rape is anal rape is a hallmark of conservatism.

boring movies are the most boring (Eric H.), Monday, 28 September 2009 17:22 (fourteen years ago) link

How the hell does someone forget seeing Repulsion?

― EDB, Monday, 28 September 2009 03:01 (15 hours ago) Bookmark

it's kinda not very good and i say that as a man who cannot look at catherine deneuve without combusting internally a little

also, fantastic thread, i lolled

should probably be practising shorthand (country matters), Monday, 28 September 2009 17:29 (fourteen years ago) link

The French culture and communications minister, Frederic Mitterrand, said he "learned with astonishment" of Polanski's arrest. He expressed solidarity with Polanski's family and said "he wants to remind everyone that Roman Polanski benefits from great general esteem" and has "exceptional artistic creation and human qualities."

Investigators in the United States say Polanski drugged and raped a 13-year-old girl in the 1970s. Polanski pleaded guilty in 1977 to having unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor, but he fled the United States before he could be sentenced and settled in France.

U.S. authorities have had a warrant for his arrest since 1978. Police in Switzerland arrested Polanski on that warrant Saturday after the 76-year-old tried to enter Switzerland to attend the Zurich Film Festival, which is holding a tribute to Polanski this year.

Filmmakers have reacted with outrage at the arrest.

"As a Swiss filmmaker, I feel deeply ashamed," Christian Frei said.

"He's a brilliant guy, and he made a little mistake 32 years ago. What a shame for Switzerland," said photographer Otto Weisser, a friend of Polanski.

The Polish Filmmakers Association posted a letter on its Web site Monday from the European Film Academy secretariat that protested "the arbitrary treatment of one of the world's most outstanding film directors."

The letter, which was read aloud at the festival, was signed by directors Wim Wenders, Volker Schloendorff and Bertrand Tavernier; actress Victoria Abril; cinematographer Peter Suschitzky; and screenwriter and actor Jean-Claude Carriere.

Mitterrand said he has spoken with French President Nicolas Sarkozy and that Sarkozy "shares his hope for a rapid resolution to the situation which would allow Roman Polanski to rejoin his family as quickly as possible."

Mitterrand said he "greatly regrets that Mr. Polanski has had yet another difficulty added to an already turbulent existence."

velko, Monday, 28 September 2009 17:34 (fourteen years ago) link

tube-ulent morelike

goole, Monday, 28 September 2009 17:34 (fourteen years ago) link

What a shame for Switzerland

steamed hams (harbl), Monday, 28 September 2009 17:35 (fourteen years ago) link

it's kinda not very good and i say that as a man who cannot look at catherine deneuve without combusting internally a little

― should probably be practising shorthand (country matters), Monday, September 28, 2009 1:29 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

seriously close to a SB here

fountain bleaut (s1ocki), Monday, 28 September 2009 17:36 (fourteen years ago) link

i really don't want to imagine what "combusting internally" means in this context, though i think i just did.

omar little, Monday, 28 September 2009 17:37 (fourteen years ago) link

he made a little mistake 32 years ago

^ another right-wing nut

Ismael Klata, Monday, 28 September 2009 17:38 (fourteen years ago) link

whoops, slipped and fell into the bum of another drugged teen

鬼の手 (Edward III), Monday, 28 September 2009 17:40 (fourteen years ago) link

roman polanski, or pardon me but your little mistake is in my ass

velko, Monday, 28 September 2009 17:43 (fourteen years ago) link

i really don't want to imagine what "combusting internally" means in this context, though i think i just did.

― omar little, Monday, 28 September 2009 18:37 (6 minutes ago) Bookmark

if *anyone* else had used this innocent if slightly grandiose metaphor for attraction, it would have passed without such comment

repulsion didn't really reach me. came across as a visually impressive but slight and conceptually unconvincing study of neurosis. the rotting rabbit carcass was effective. maybe if i see it again i'll appreciate its trip into unaccountable human darkness a little more enthusiastically

should probably be practising shorthand (country matters), Monday, 28 September 2009 17:50 (fourteen years ago) link


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